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Honor the Dragon!!!
>>98133504god damn the turkey is such a retarded mech. it has an entire HOUSE for a cockpit.
>>98133519It's literally just a King Crab, but good.
Lil nigga in progress >AC/2 with flak rounds and 1.5t of rounds>Large laser>Small laser
Griffin.Supremacy.that is all.
>>98133519Wide Birb is wide.
>>98133519You make that sound like a bad thing?
Battletech digital art is so bad its unreal. What's with the trend of making everything through the lens of a cataract sufferer. It all looks unfinished and slapdash. Oblique shapes everywhere too.It's not something unique to BT but they sure love to flaunt it.
>>98133667you're talking about a profession that can no longer actually draw a still life, or paint it. or freehand a circle, or do orthographic, perspective of 3d objects.
>>98133667Art comes with weirdness, especially if you're not paying a premium. That said though it's the recent trend of recycling the same 3D models used to make the miniatures that bothers me. Granted, some artists put in the effort, like Marco Mazzoni, but some of that art looks like already-obsolete machinima.I don't think it's Battletech exclusive though. Even some of the 40K art I've seen floating around on /tg/ lately seems to have been bitten by that bug as of late, looking all the world like a rejected episode of Reboot. I hope to hell for their sake it's not official.
>>98133519I am convinced that the Turkina came about because Jade Falcon were fucking sick and tired about all the Green Turkey jokes and decided out of spite, to build this thing, a literally, gigantic waddling green turkey comprised entirely of spite and murder.The Z variant is probably the most terrifying of the Society mechs and is probably the most lethal mech in the entire game, and the Prime, A, B, E and H variants aren't far behind either.
>>98133369I have Wobbies for c3 trickery.I don't rly care about their specs as I pick mechs mostly by looks.That one looks rly fuckin cool.
>>98133546>finished versionI'm pleased with myself. The last week i managed to paint 2 lances of Opfor and I started to experiment with highlights and multiple colors on fig's.Paint markers are a god send for my lazy ass.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
What's happening here?It talks about centuries of warfare, and the clans are supposed to have been gone and develop for centuries too. Yet here in the 25th Years book, it basically just puts 50 years between Kerensky's departure and the invasion of the Clans
>>98133990Kerensky's Exodus was in 2784, but 3025 is the first popular succession wars date because that's when the game started. So the Clans developed in isolation and the Succession Wars raged for over two centuries.
>>98133990The succession wars started in 2786 when a Kurita ruined everything forever as usual.
>>98133990Weirdly written. The default date of old battletech (and when a lot of the vidyas are still set) is 3025, the end of the third succession war. The first succession war started in 2786 when a Davion ruined everything forever as usual.
>>98133781Its really not. The value is set such that roughly 80% of farms in the UK will be affected, as the value, as I said, assumes every bit of machinery is brand new and in tip top working order, every animal is at the peak of its life and in perfect health, every building is in pristine condition, and every square foot of land will be used for development. Aka, completely unrealistic.
>>98133781>because he spent over a decade bragging about how he wouldn't pay Inheritance tax if he just bought a farm and pretended to run it.He never pretended to run it. He openly said he bought it for tax reasons and had someone else run it for him. But the guy retired 2018 and since then he's been running it himself. So the whole "he just bought it for tax reasons" is really not relevant anymore. Its like saying someone only bought an apartment so they can rent it out, despite having actually lived there for the last 9 years.
So whats the best way to get into BT these days? I'm thinking of getting the Armored Combat box, so I have everything ready to force a friend to play with me at gunpoint. But given I can also just familiarise myself with the rules from the repo in the OP, I could also just do that and buy some prints off of loothoarder or something.
>>98134178Armored Combat box is vest for starting off, because it gets you an intro-friendly rulebook for new players and mapsheets.
How would you guys refit the Hunchback IIC for campaign?
>>98134178Wait few more months for new boxes?
>>98134200Remove one of the Ultras and add armor and such.
>>98133823They took its snout now it looks like a knockoff zeus
>>98134230Always been the problem with the Grand Dragon, which is why I modded a normal dragon instead.
>>98134274>with the Grand Dragon*with the Dragon III may be stupid
>>98134200Is this assuming I plan to live? Because if my ass is in any HBK that's a really stupid assumption, I'm rushing down Assaults on a whim.
>>98134200cLPL, LBX10, 4 cERSL. Rest with armour+laser-ams if you can fit it.
Is there a more fuckable mech than the CGL redesign of the Spider? It's built like a busty shortstack.
>>98134317Gotta start printing a cosplay for my gf...
>>98134205So new starter boxes are planned?
>>98134417Yeah. AGOAC and the Beginner Box are nearly a decade old and are being supplanted by the new Core Box and Introductory Box, which have similar rule content as their predecessors but new models.The models from AGOAC, Clan Invasion, and the Beginner Box will be made available in other boxes.
>>98134463Thanks for the heads up. I'll get the new core box then.
>>98133990Nobody actually plays early succession wars because it's just a nukefest. I would have called that entry "late succession wars" and had the dates as 3000, 3025, and 3039.
>>98133762>Even some of the 40K art I've seen floating around on /tg/ lately seems to have been bitten by that bug as of lateWarhammer has actually gotten better after people told GW to fuck off with LITERALLY half finished art pieces that had the image literally fade into this crap >>98133667Imagine this image >>98133587 but the entire last third of it fade into the brushes and stencils used. That style came and died fairly quickly thankfully. Its born out of the Apple Procreate generation that is used to a tool basically turning their squibbles into real art. If you ever see art like this, it should be your duty to send an email to the publisher and tell them to pls use real artists or fuck off.
If you could make your own clan, what would they be called and what's their schtick?
>>98134764Clan Blahaj
>>98134230>>98134274The IWM dragon II actually comes with a snout, ostensibly so you can model it as a grand, but nothings really stopping you from putting both the nose and AIV pack on. You'd just have to fill in the LRM10 tubes.
How early do the Clanners get washed out to different caste? Even during their sibko? Or after failing the trial of position?
>>98134317The Wyvern.
>>98133794>Turkina ZMeet nuclear Schilltron.
>>98134764Clan Smoked SalmonEvery warrior is a trained chef and they are all about seeking out quality ingredients and making sure everyone has a good meal.>>98134895Depends on the Clan.>>98134907Have they released it yet?
>>98133794And for some reason this isn't a CJF mech
>>98135140No one wants to pilot a mech that's alcoholic and rapes it's sisters and cousins.
>>98135168
>>98134317It is the most out of the CGL redesigns.
>>98134907>>98134970They'll ruin it I'm certain.
>>98133794>this thing, a literally, gigantic waddling green turkey comprised entirely of spite and murder.Feels like a quote that could belong in the LOTR. Now we just need to find the design they filled entirely with their craziness. >>98134417>>98134530Catalyst link as battletech site is downhttps://www.catalystgamelabs.com/news/catalyst-game-labs-battletech-refit-redeployment
>>98135254Still looks pretty sexy to me
>>98135340That looks like a fitbro, I thought you would have gone for the pixie for that
>>98135340Is that a catalyst design? It seems to predate thier "house style" and it's technically not of the main variant.
>>98135308>Now we just need to find the design they filled entirely with their craziness. There's a few. The B with a pair of LPL, ERLL, MPL and ERMLs, all tied into a TarComp is a good one. The E's six SSRM6 and a HAG40 feels like another, depending on how you feel about HAGs. The X is pretty weird too, a pair of LRM20's backed up with 6 MPL's and claws in it's feet.
>>98134764Clan Lion Muskie. Named after the fish that is the apex predator of the seas of their homeworld, descended from an ancient Terran variety. Tactics favor speed and striking decisively with overwhelming firepower. Alpha galaxy’s colors are blue and silver.
>>98134764Well, I did have a shitty concept called Clan Chimera once, named as such because it was just made of a ton of disparate Clanner washouts who decided to combine, Fire Mandrill-style.
The Liberation of Terra at the hands of the SLDF lasted from January 2277 to around September 2779, over two years. Is it the longest running, continuous ground war in all of Battletech?
>>98135448The book it's from was released by CGL. I imagine the default variant would have a similar body.
>>98135882It's not too bad, it's a bit of a middle ground between the older discoball man, and the thinner "Decepticon torturer" look. And with bits of the Plog original IIC. I don't really like the arm laser housing. The various art of the regular or IIC's laser looks a lot better, but it's otherwise pretty nice. The head's also too small and buglike, but the body ain't bad at all.
>>98135340It doesn't have the fat rack or hip/waist ratio of the Spider
>>98135340>>98135882Reminds me years agoo I had Inker draw up my Roguetech monstrosity Wyvern. Lance, and some medium lasers. Partial wing and similar JJ gear imagined as, bits from a Phoenix Hawk Eventually I took out the buckets of Clans SRMs and went all in on a couple of laser and even MORE JJ power till it could jump something like 30+hexes with the pirate engine on.1 Improved JJ 4 or was it 8 leg JJs parital wing and pirate engine. It was almost as mobile as a LAM. Sometimes more.
>>98134317>Thick thighs>Thin waist>Big tits>Hard nipsDamn she's a bad bitch
CGL is too poor to make a new edition launch trailer like GW?
>>98134764Clan Mud Hornet they only use mechs with the compact mech quirk and one point is five mechs like elementals
>>98136002Yes, and if they did I'd expect something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE6nXa3r0U0
>>98136002Honestly, CGL creating a short but good animated series would do wonders for Battletech, something like Kill Lupercal or Gundam Requiem for Vengeance.
>>98135851It's pretty long, for all their scope most planetary invasions tend to be done after a few months aren't they?How long did Operation Scour take to liberate Terra from the wobbies? Surely that took a while?
>>98136075Last time they tried it turned out they'd sold their media rights to Bobby Kotick, maybe they're a little cautious of trying again?
>>98134200HBK IIC gets turned into HBK C. That's it. Literally drop a big gun, for armour etc. and boom, you have a genuinely, terrifyingly great medium.
>>98136075>CGLNo because it would be at least 70% focused on them being sexually degenerate faggots and troons while the other 30% would be focused on them being marginalized shitskins.
>>98134288The only problem with the grand dragon, is the mixtech ilclan version, the 12K, like the MAL 4R, still suffers from IS XLFE fail instead of glorious clantech XLFE. Because puritans aren't allowed nice things.Meanwhile the fucking lyrans get multiple ilclan mechs with clan xlfe. Boooooo!
>>98136076The 3151 invasion of Terra by Clans Wolf and Jade Falcon took 3 months, Stones Liberation at the end of the Jihad lasted a few months as well. The SLDF conquest of Terra was the longest battle for the world by far.
>>98136096Trying Too Hard.
>>98136002>is CGL a normal company without an animation department vomiting out content for their own personal streaming service that can videotape spining models on a turntable every time they pass a kidney stoneYes
>>98136096You've more or less described /btg/?
>>98136119you aren't the general, faggot.
>>98136119HA!
>>98136119Fucking KEK
>>98136075I'd watch it.
>>98136075Why would they fund that when Hired Steel did it for free?
>>98136075It couldn't possibly be worse than that garbage-tier cartoon from the '90s
>>98136169Because they can't for DEI down the throat of a third party that they don't have wrapped up in a contract.
>>98136170Repent clanner scum.100% this poster is a Green Chicken salty how bad they lost to freebirths
>>98136179>>98136096Seethe more, chud :3
>>98136183Wrong Clan, sleemo, but that cartoon was unequivocal shit and you cannot deny this fact
>>98134764Clan Ice Viper rely on short range heavy cavalry mechs to bumrush the enemy while preferring heavily armed light mechs for force recon. Have a preference for Novas over pure mech or elemental stars especially for recon lances who can deploy the elementals defensively as a delaying force or tripwire against enemy attacks.
>>98136002>>98136075I wouldn't trust CGL to do it justice themselves. Just let the Hired Steel guys do their own launch trailer. Pay them (lol) for it and put it on the main channel.
>>98136170>>98136190>Claims to be a Clanner>"couldn't"Get a load of this fucking dezgra>>98136002"Why do Protestants not build cathedrals using the money they get from selling indulgences?" -Catholics
>>98136311>"Why do Protestants not build cathedrals using the money they get from selling indulgences?" -CatholicsProtestants selling indulgences? Must be some Steiner thing.
>>98136311Because the pastor embezzled the money and spent it on a new porch
>>98136421Also some Steiner thing.
>>98136396>>98136421Missing the point worse than a Spheroid "veteran."
>>98136657t. a Papist lawyering the word of God to justify robbing their flock for worldly reward
>>98136677But but, muh pleniary indulgences! How else do you expect us to build st Michael's...
>>98136705What does a dead saint need with a building?
>>98136657Dunno how you think I missed the point, but you certainly missed mine. Seething about catholics aside, CGL can't do shit because they mismanage their funds, not because they don't engage in predatory business practices.
>>98136834>CGL can't run elaborate and extreme advertisement for an entire new product set to replace all of last year's products and rules because they have a extant budget and are not drowning in retard capital in addition to normal sales.I guess that's CGL's problem; they can't make 71x the profit annually; so when they announce a new rulebook they make a blog post instead of an opera.
>>98134200But the 4 already exist!>>98134530>I'll get the new core box then.Eh, you might want to go ahead with AGOAC, the new Core box is to push the IlClan era and thus uses more recent Mechs that subsequently use more complex rules.>>98134764>If you could make your own clan, what would they be called and what's their schtick?Who here haven't I told?>>98136096>No because it would be at least 70% focused on them being sexually degenerate faggotsSo just like the Clans?
>98136924Fuck off Manic, go drop another cabinet on your mom
Oh, we're talking about an opera now, I thought we were discussing a short trailer, my bad.Battletech is, what, the second best selling miniatures game on the market? Third? How much did the mercs kickstarter pull? Do you think it's normal that they've had so many product delays and can't pay for their con tables up front? If they weren't so shit at managing financials they could probably throw a small animation together, but paying artists is historically to much to ask for from catalyst games labs.
>>98136942Whoops>>98136904
>>98136942Is this the part where we pretend not to understand basic math because if we did, the comparison would be so far out of scope it would be retarded to compare it apples to apples?If it is, just say so and I can find something less stupid to be doing.
https://youtu.be/Esx-7Mkk5W0Does this count?
>>98136957Sure is easy to just ignore my post and call me stupid. Yeah, go do something else.
>>98136924>Who here haven't I told?me, I'm curious as to your new clan
>>98136677That's the exact thing I was making fun of ya goof>>98136834Battletech isn't big enough for the kind of money they'd need for GW theatrics, regardless of how well they manage it. But also, yes, they're far less predatory. >>98136942Catalyst literally has multiple artists on staff. I don't even understand this accusation.
>>98136999A Clan of lesbian Cow girl Homesteaders that don't have a dedicated Warrior Caste?Where Seniority and competence are "rewarded" with the "privilege" of Motherhood?
>>98136978You know what you're right, calling you stupid is easy; let me prove it instead.Games Workshop is a publicly traded company with a market cap of 8.83 billion USD. Their annual profit last year was an estimated 365 million USD. Battle for Armageddon is coming out next month for preorder and sale, literally in less than a week. Estimates put their employee figures at up to or over 3000 full time employees, with half of that being in their headquarters in Nottingham.Catalyst Game Labs is not publicly traded; and estimate puts their revenue at 5.3 million dollars in revenue last year. Their full time team is estimated not to exceed 50 people. The core rule set that has been advertised is not due until August and not up for sale or preorder.Is this the right time to release a trailer, anon? "Please look forward to ordering the new book and box three months from now?" Is that an appropriate use of manpower and money for a company of their size. Should they delay the box for you to make sure they can get a masturbatory trailer out for a product so far out it doesn't even have a specific release date?If you don't want to be treated like an imbecile I suggest you stop acting like one; then crying you're being mistreated like you weren't coming in here for the sadomasochism treatment anyhow. I should charge you for this you dirty pervert.
>>98137012I can suspend disbelief a lot, but a Clan that cares about seniority goes too far even for me. In the Clans, seniority gets you babysitting duty.
>>98137019>I can suspend disbelief a lot, but a Clan that cares about seniority goes too far even for me. In the Clans, seniority gets you babysitting duty.Thank you for the legitimate criticism, but that is one of my bigger bugbears with Clan society, like having a dedicated Warrior Caste for a post-industrial spacefaring society.
>>98137037Nicky K was a special kind of nutrag
>>98137043Indeed, really it's all in service of the setting being a Warrior-poet power fantasy, but War and/or Poetry don't feed people.
How did they know
>>98137015>Catalyst Game Labs is not publicly traded; and estimate puts their revenue at 5.3 million dollars in revenue last year.Not an excuse.
>>98137242Post painted models.
>>98137270go back to /40kg/ this is a miniature agnostic game.
>>98137378So you admit that you not own anything made by CGL, and therefore your entire tirade about their business practices is performative concern trolling.
>>98136201>heavy cavalry mechswhat are some good heavy cavalry mechs?
>>98137419A) NTAB) No I do not, in my hundreds of mechs, have any CGL plasticC)You do not need to be victim to embezzlement/ponzi scheme to criticize it
>>98137431Thunderbolt
>>98137465>B) No I do not, in my hundreds of mechs, have any CGL plasticOof, what a pathetic collection of depressing garbage that must be. Does it fill up rooms with the smell of cabbage?
>>98137587NTA but tin rot smells like garlic. Also, most of us at least bought a bunch of the IS Battle Lances and IS Command Lances like candy when they first came out for $20 just for the ridiculous amounts of decent common unseen.
>>98137733I wish I hadn't missed that boat, but all good things in time. Right now I'm waiting for a Comstar Battle Level 2 restock to finish my merc battalion with.
>>98137465Trying Too Hard.
Might be because I only play lance level games, but at least in that environment ISLRM feels like beyond worthless and active self detriment>but muh indirect firegood luck rolling 10+ to hit
>>98137587So many CGL shills around now. They really have done a great job of slowly removing the old community and replacing them with brainlet consumers who only talk about the game in the context of the next thing they intend to buy.
>>98138038>removing the old communityThey will not be missed
>>98133512
>>98138038>They really have done a great job of slowly removing the old communityNothing of value was lost. I don't want any old people here anyway.
>>98138246
*ahem* FUCK your Griffin, nigga!
>>98138291oh look, a jack off some, master of nothing mech, whose main gun is... an ac5. whoa.every 'good' version of your shitty mech is just trying to ape its superior, the griffin.
>>98138307Griffin is a big back bitch 'mech, the lowest common denominator 55-tonner you give to scrubs with no skillsTrue warriors know that handicaps are for losers, and what sluts get wet for are troopers that get shit done without gimmesA guy piloting a Wolverine fucks; a guy piloting a Griffin ends up Duncan Fisher
>>98138323enjoy your inevitable painful death whilst the griffin pilot goes on to retire after a fulfilling, rewarding career, handing his mech down to a son or daughter his wife bore him. Meanwhile, the only p00n you get is the dirtiest nastiest skank whores you buy on leave, because no one sane and STD-free wants to touch your nasty crusty self, because you permanently reek of the worst swampass and ball sweat from being stuffed into that toolbox you laughably call a "cockpit", at gunpoint, because that's the only way to make a man get into such a torture device. OR ARE YOU AN 'INTIMIDATING' 1.2 metres tall, and therefore find the cockpit 'roomy'. truly a mech designed for manlets and perma-manchildren. meanwhile, people sized persons will drive the griffin in comfort and style.
>>98138323>his trooper is a m*edium mechCouldn't be me.
>>98138367>lights>doing anything when not piloted by some asshole with plotarmouriumpick one.
>>98138374Lights are great at kicking, literally, the shit out of mechs that can't out run them. Maybe it's just my experience, but knocked down mechs end up not being relevant for at least 4 turns most times.
>>98138618I like later spider variants and venoms. Great for hunting down other lights and distracting heavies by bouncing behind them and firing pulse lasers into their ass, maybe with a kick thrown in for good measure.I generally dislike "trooper" lights, not mobile enough or armored enough to survive too long and generally too slow to get into position where heavier weapons can make a big difference before they die.
>>98138374Consider the following>lights are often really cheap>tend to be specialists>can often outflank a lot of opponents>usually pack a lot of bang for their buck>pin enemies down by constantly tripping them up with kicksThey may be treated as mooks but a good light will easily mop the floor of a lot of medium weight offerings and be much more of a threat especially in introtech.
>>98138374Lights that can do something and are good exist, they're the fast ones with a gun or many tiny guns. Or they're an adder prime.
>>98138618>not being relevant for at least 4 turns most times after falling downStop bringing pilotting skill 6+ pilots to save minute amounts of BV then dude
zoom zoom zoom
The quirks system doesnt go far enough if you ask me. There is all this fluff about every mech and they get nothing out of it for the most part.
>>98138891Snivelry. Stick to vidya, kid, you'll find your snowflake shit there.
>>98138038>They really have done a great job of slowly removing the old communityBased afTrue kingshit.
>>98138910>SnivelryI read that in James Purefoys voice. Now need to decide what mech would he pilot?
>>98136718Why does God need a starship?
>>98138038>So many CGL shills around nowYeah how dare they actually play the game and support its existence. Its always funny when poorfags who's only set they have at home is what they found in their parents attic, try to get the moral high ground about consumer practices.>what, you actually buy things? You absolute shill!
>>98139991Hating on CGL is 40k refugee behavior. Complaining about GW online is the actual hobby for them and they assume it is just the same for every other game, including BattleTech.
>>98139991>support its existence.You've got that backwards, the games existence is so very ensured that CGL chose to acquire a license to the IP, Battletech has done just fine without corporate "support" preying on the players.PGI gives the perfect amount of support:Hey, you guys have an old game you like playing in the same universe as our MMO? Cool, well feel free to distribute our game files for 3D printing, play whatever rules you want, we don't care, enjoy using our assets for free though!"
>>98138038>So many CGL shills around now.Schizo talk.
>>98140103What do you think it is that catalyst, a company selling rules and models is doing wrong and should be doing instead, because I have no fucking clue what your complaint is supposed to be despite having a pretty big list of my own.
>how dare company sell product and make money!>how dare people like product company makes and buy it!
>>98140131They should publish things I like more, because that's what matters. They should use my personal opinions to guide their product decisions.
>>98140165That's also my opinion, however nobody else would like this.
>>98138374I can fit a lot of warcrimes in my light.
>>98140103The irony of criticizing CGL and praising PGI is palpable
>>98140103>Battletech has done just fine without corporate "support" preying on the players. Lmao no it fucking hasn'tIt was on life support, being played by a handful of grogs with literally zero outreach and no way for new players to enter the hobby. If you were one of those grogs—great! Keep playing in your kitchen with your friends and ignore everything else. For the rest of us, the hobby would literally not exist without CGL right now. That's not shilling, it's just a fact. And yeah, they're terrible at business. No shit. Doesn't change the fact that they're the reason models even exist on the market right now that don't cost $20 despite being a sculpt from the 80s.>>98140086The sad thing is that they're so stuck in their abusive relationship that they feel the need to compare CGL to James. They just can't escape, and they insist on sharing their abuse with others.
>>98140103>the games existence is so very ensuredIt absolutely was not.FASA's death scattered the rights of Battletech to the wind, and even today the video game rights are locked in with Microsoft and any TV or Movie rights are apparently locked up in Disney.CGL acquired the license back in 2007, it wasn't until 2018/2019 that all the fuckery with Harmony Gold finally got resolved, though even then there's legal fuckery. And notably, that wasn't a one case, that was the cumination of several that finally broke through that CGL was fighting throughout those 11 years to steadily whittle down the Unseen list.They additionally inherited several years of WizKids mismanagement with their 80 year timeskip that had to be entirely backfilled with actual lore to explain what the fuck happened with the Jihad and Republic eras, Grey Monday, etc.Total Warfare was only out a brief time under FanPro before the license was acquired and has had several erratas since then to fix and adjust things, with other stuff like the Tech Manual, B.V. 2.0, Strategic, Interstellar, and Campaign operations, and so on all coming after the license was acquired.CGL is not perfect, absolutely not. But you are acting like we would have gotten all of the positives that led to player growth and retention, and absolutely no new major negatives without them.>>98140235It's wild because there's very celarly a company that's done far less good than CGL and has leaned far more on just letting the money roll in. Topps. They're input is basically only farming the residuals.
>>98140340Player growth is a negative. I don't want new people playing Battletech.
>>98133504Man, Hour of the Wolf and the Ilclan sourcebook were so fucking ass.
>>98140350Then, again, you're welcome to play with your old group while ignoring all the new players. Literally nothing is stopping you.
>>98140399But the wrong people are having fun and I have to complain about it. I won't stop until they do.
>>98140131they inject modern politics, they embezzle kickstarter funds for personal use and fail to deliver product to backers, they produc shit quality product, they are changing game rules to divide the community between existing battletech and consumers loyal to the corporation.These are just the big ones.
>>98140350I convinced several people to start playing battletech this weekend, sorry.
>>98140235>>98140340>I wouldn't be playing the game right now!Probably a net benefit to the community, and worthless as an argument either way>for many years rights were legally contested!Many years during which the game was still played, corporate profit rights mean nothing to gamers.
>>98140350You sound like a deeply unpleasant person who doesn't even enjoy Battletech anymore, and is apoplectic about people having a different opinion from them enjoying it.Peak Boomer mindset.
>>98140350Only when not gatekept, it's harmful to the future of the game that children not yet born will one day hear of it, look it up and see it associated with faggots and trannies.Short term growth due to political pandering at the cost of future stable persistence for targeted political pandering.
>>98140418Those are also my complaints (except the kickstarter one, it's like bitching about gambling outcomes). I suppose I just care less about it.
Anyone have the Quick Star rules for Classic? Seems like the one on the website has completely vanished.
>>98140418>Muh modern politicsThe entire point of the setting has been anti-colonialist, anti-interventionist, "war is bad" since the 80s. Your lack of reading comprehension does not change that. Also, Wolf's Dragoons has an XY woman as their leader since 1992.>>98140428Based and hobbypilled.
>>98140442Your alternative is that children not yet born will one day hear of Battletech, realize that nobody has played it in 30 years and they have no one to play with, and resign themselves to 40K 43rd edition. It's honestly pathetic that you care so much about the type of people who like your hobby far away from you where you'll never interact. The internet has poisoned you into thinking you have to give a shit, but you really don't. You can literally just paint your models and play your game. That's the point, isn't it?
>>98136075>serie formatAbout Kerensky and the Usurper, first season is focused on the political plays of Amaris and Kerensky's march on the periphery, second season is the come back of Kerensky and the execution of Amaris.>movieAbout the Rasalhague prince fleeing the invading clan. Climax is when the shylone kill the Il khan, and the invasion is stopped in its track.It may be the two type of media, with the right story telling, to introduce new people to Battletech.
>>98140502The way I see it, the Amaris Civil War is like the Horus Heresy--it works best as background lore of uncertain details, with the meta-implication that the morality of the situation was a lot grayer than modern humans believe. It's the legend of King Arthur who will come back. It tells you how people see their world, not how the world actually is.A movie about Rasalhague during the first half of the invasion would be fantastic, though. Much like the book, but with a focus on Tyra Miraborg.(No need to show that her father surrendered to the Clans a year later.)
>>98140459Complaining on an anonymous forum isn't exactly evidence for a high level of care invested, your comment is only derisive if anon or I were investing a court case against CGL.>>98140490Nice fantasy, it's defeated by the future where children not yet born look up the game, see it's fun enough that a dedicated community has preserved it for decades without any corporate involvement and getting into it is easy and cheap because of that communities efforts to preserve and share resources.
>>98140460Do you mean like this? https://cf.sarna.net/docs/rules/official/printerfriendly_classic_battletech_quickstart.pdfBattletech website is getting updated at the moment.
>>98140608>https://cf.sarna.net/docs/rules/official/printerfriendly_classic_battletech_quickstart.pdfNot that one unfortunately. The one they had uploaded also had paper cutouts of 'mechs you can use.
>>98140593Oh yes, the 80-year-old grogs that have resisted anyone entering the game for decades (quote >>98140350: "Player growth is a negative") will still form a robust community, ready to welcome children and foster their participation in the hobby.
>>98140622Oh like this one? https://www.sarna.net/files/download/docs/rules/official/classic_battletech_quickstart_rules.pdf
>>98140593You mean like they have for Renegade Legion? It's still going strong right?
>>98140622Yo, any news on that Japanese replay?
>>98140649ATM nothing, money has been tight so its hard to try and buy one of those nice book scanners. I've been shopping around seeing if anyone I know has a scanner of some sort that won't damage the book.My ultimate goal is once I get the pages scanned in I'm running it through chatgpt to get a rough and I mean rough translation of it. Until then I'm gonna be stating when its done unfortunately.
>>98140643>Renegade LegionNo comunity preserved some literal who game no one has ever heard of so it won't happen for Battletech!Lmao, Mechwarrior 2 spurred on the GPU industry, Battletech is a big fucking deal in both digital and physical gaming.
>>98140678I wonder if you could simply take pics of the pages, that should be sufficient for OCR these days right?
Please help me, /btg/. What mech is this armless wonder? I can't figure it out.
>>98140713Stealth
>>98140724Thank you!
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>>98140806Ignorance is not a flag. You do not have to wave it.
>>98140462>anti-colonialistBattletech does not imply colonialism is bad.>anti-interventionistIt doesn't imply interventionism is bad either.>"war is bad"Anyone that spouts this is a genuine retard, and usually means "war for thing I don't like is bad".>Wolf's Dragoons has an XY woman as their leader since 1992This is not the same as trying to retcon the clans to be racist and sexist.
>>98140837There is an inverse relationship in BattleTech between how much a government spends on its people and how much it cares about becoming the new Star League. It is consistent throughout eras and factions.The Federated Suns are an intentional parody of NATO, complete with funding terrorists to destabilize foreign while pretending to love democracy and freedom. Hanse is explicitly cast as wrong; his own son recognizes that Hanse was part of the problem.If you think a setting that's all about war can't be anti-war, I'd like to introduce you to the 41st millennium.Your lack of critical reading skills are your own problem.>This is not the same as trying to retcon the clans to be racist and sexist.Is that a thing (as in, beyond like 3 randos on Twitter)? I have not heard of it, but I'm not particularly invested in the community so I might have missed something.
>>98140462No the entire point of the setting is moral relativism, any faction you choose to play is the Good Guys and everyone else is the Bad Guys.
>>98140899lol
>>98140870>There is an inverse relationship in BattleTech between how much a government spends on its people and how much it cares about becoming the new Star LeagueA colonialist and interventionist nation was responsible for the height of human progress and living standards.>If you think a setting that's all about war can't be anti-warThat same nation responsible for the aforementioned height of human progress and living standards achieved this golden age by using war and overwhelming military might to convince everyone else to become subordinates.>Is that a thing (as in, beyond like 3 randos on Twitter)?Bryan young made an attempt at this in one of his novels published in shrapnel.
>>98140902So whether you choose to play Nordic Eugenicists, TERF Hedonists or Individualist Space Cowboys doesn't matter, any angle you approach from defines what is good.
>>98140923>Individualist Space CowboysWho, the Southwest Trinity Worlds? I hope you don't mean the Taurians with their massive socialist support structures and extensive social safety net funded by taxes.
>>98139272Boring Answer: CenturionFun Answer: Rampage
So i recently started playing battletech classic. Can i just say the Phoenix hawk 2K has been a consistent GOAT across all 3 games i have played so far?
>>98140916>A colonialist and interventionist nation was responsible for the height of human progress and living standards.Literally, in-universe, this is Star League propaganda.>That same nation responsible for the aforementioned height of human progress and living standards achieved this golden age by using war and overwhelming military might to convince everyone else to become subordinates.Which is framed as a bad thing, since it caused the outermost colonies to rebel and destroy it, when it would have otherwise been stable.>Bryan youngOh, well, I can believe that.>>98140929And the Southwest Trinity Worlds aren't even portrayed as "good" in their own novels.>>98140923lmao
>>98140350Why do you even care what CGL does? If all you do is play with the same people then none of this affects you in the slightest
>>98140947The Phoenix Hawk has a lot of fantastic variants throughout various eras. Always good to have one around.
>>98140952>Literally, in-universe, this is Star League propagandaIt is not propaganda, that is the factual reality of the setting. Trying to claim the star league wasn't the golden age is just weird revisionism done for the sake of trying to make battletech suit your politics.Living standards were better for more people under the star league and technology was more advanced under the star league.>Which is framed as a bad thing, since it caused the outermost colonies to rebel and destroy it, when it would have otherwise been stable.Seems you need to do some reading, that happened hundreds of years into the golden age created by the star league.
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>>98141017...just as soon as my opponent shows up
>>98140994>It is not propaganda, that is the factual reality of the setting.Anon, the Star League is basically the equivalent of ancient Rome here.First off, we kindly ignore all the fucked-up shit that the Romans felt to be perfectly sensible and normal and did every day as a society.Secondly, these stories are generally told from the class that materially profited from the Star League the most and who have been using it as a political crutch to argue why it is necessary to nuke everything in order to bring the League back.What we're hearing isn't the reality of life under the Star League, but the reality of the minimal political consensus among the Carrion Lord class.
>>98140994>Trying to claim the star league wasn't the golden age is just weird revisionism done for the sake of trying to make battletech suit your politics.Star League was a golden age for the Inner Sphere and especially the Terran Hegemony. The Periphiary is expressly stated in all information about the era from the sourcebooks and more to have been stuck under an extraction economy after having their militaries and economies annhilated with sigificant territory being taken off of them. It was a Golden Age, but it was one in the same manner of the British Empire of the Victorian Era. The further you get from the core, the darker and more tarnished everything becomes.
>>98141108While I'm sure arguing with someone's politically motivated headcanon historical revisionism of a fictional setting would be highly engaging, I don't feel like doing that right now, so I'm just going to post this picture of factual statements and statistics that can't be refuted.>>98141134Fortunately, the periphery held a small fraction of the total human population, so most people were by far better off.
>>98141108Nigga how you gonna explain away the hundreds of worlds that died as a result of losing SL terraforming technology? Was their standard of living a fucking lie? You are retarded
>>98141108Thinly-veiled Marxist revisionism masquerading as critical thought. How novel.
>>98141142>Used: $8Still too pricy
>>98141142>Fortunately, the periphery held a small fraction of the total human population, so most people were by far better off.I suppose if you rip away half the territory of a nation older than any of the constituants while unleashing Amos Furlough on that and a completely separate polity beforehand after giving all your troops free reign to commit what were war crimes by revoking the Ares Conventions for the war, then you throw the remainder into economic slavery, there may be a slight population deficit going on there.And we totally have proof that the Servitors and similar populations weren't being exploited even harder because we have accounts from them...oh wait. The only major accounts we have about the era are from the upper members of the Great Houses or the Terran Hegemony, mostly in the wake of Amaris who would absolutely make everything earlier seem better by comparisson, even without accounting for the Succession Wars.
>>98141056Seems like quite the tight space for a Clan force. Better use all that fancy terrain to your advantage, Star Captain!
>>98141142lmaooooooAnon, this is LITERALLY an in-universe propaganda piece. Are you actually this stupid, or are you a troll? At this point, I don't know which would be preferable.
>>98141145Those "worlds" were the equivalent of Antarctic mining operations. They were never sustainable to begin with. What they lost wasn't "magic space technology," it was "trade routes artificially created to justify having the colony in the first place.">>98141154I like this comment, because by posting a clear propaganda poster, it communicates that it's being ironic and not actually as stupid as the text makes it seem.
>>98141410Venus was made one of the most agriculturally productive planets in the entire inner sphere though star league terraforming technology.
>>98141378>the average human lifespan was extended to 108 standard yearsdefinitively prove this isn't true
>>98137431Dragon, Osts, Grasshopper. Anything that goes 5/8 or 4/6/4 typically
>>98141145>Nigga how you gonna explain away the hundreds of worlds that died as a result of losing SL terraforming technology?It was fake.The League, naturally, was convinced that only other Empires perished, so they planned everything under the presumption they'd be around to see the terraforming through in all cases.As for the individual planets, they had no choice. They'd either win or billions would perish.Simple as. Perfectly normal fucked-up things societies do.
>>98141440Not to mention that hundreds of colonies were faltering but basically viable, until the Star League made them chronically dependent on a single product in its trade network; then, once the League was gone, those colonies no longer had the means to produce basic necessities, and they perished.Weird. You'd think that the people hysterically crying out about Marxism would be AGAINST predatory managed economies.
>>98141354>nation older than any of the constituantsAt least four FWL member states predate the Taurians. The one that went on to lead the FWL was directly involved in the creation of the Taurians.
>>98141440>It was fake.So just baseless headcanon.
>>98141577You're the one posting in-universe propaganda documents as evidence without a shred of irony.
>>98141611>I can't disprove it so it's propaganda
This poster is a troll, just ignore at this point. This general falls for it way too easily these days.
>>98141697Jawohl mein Fuhrer! Ve vill do as ze command!
>>98141514The fact that it was bad when the peaceful international order collapsed into total war doesn't really imply any nefarious managed economies. There are a lot of towns all over the world that would collapse if the highways suddenly filled with bandits.
>>98142062The Star League literally made formerly-independent worlds reliant on a single industry. That is what it did. It intentionally created dependence in order to maintain control. That's like BattleTech History 102.
>We report. The IlKhan decides.
>>98142111>star league does this>everyone is still better offWhat did FASA mean by this?
Someone please post that shoes planet blub
>>98142111Can you give literally any examples except for that one pair of worlds where one does ranching/slaughterhouse and the other makes boots?
>>98142237There isn't a blurb about every bumfuck planet of the Star League. The shoe planet has a bit written about it to demonstrate how the Star League operates. That's the point of the text blurb. If that was an extremely rare thing for the Star League to do, it would not be an interesting blurb to give out to the players. We can infer, by having metatextual reading comprehension, that there were other planets in similar situations.>inb4 "give examples" againUse that pattern-seeking brain and extrapolate, bud.
>>98142273The star league couldn't stop its members from fighting with each other and it but you think they could micromanage local economies
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>>98142407Unrelated to the current argument, but could the same not have been said for periphery nations in the age of war? Why didn’t the house lords essentially kill them in the womb the way they would currently?
>>98142435>Why didn’t the house lords essentially kill them in the womb the way they would currentlyYou couldn't force the international market the same way.
>>98142435In the age of war they were only marginally more powerful than the periphery. At the beginning the pre-great house states weren't even much bigger. The FWL's first war was to absorb another state, and their next war after that was a police action against the most bloodthirsty of pre-cappie states, in an alliance with two or three other pre-cappies. The immediate neighbor of the Taurians was a nation of space pacifists who only had a defensive army.
>>98142407Dubious notion that everyone needs advanced water filters aside, that describes locations becoming dependent on trade subject to natural economies of scale, not a deliberate conspiracy.
>>98142539How about you stop being a disingenuous faggot and go read the whole page in 1609. p.59
>>98140870>>98140952Yeah, Bryan had a Strong Black Trueborn Jade Falcon Merchant who didn't need to be no Warrior...
>>98142539The water filters are basically some kind of nanotechnology. Silicate and whatever filthy swamp water you care to throw into it go in one side, clean drinking water comes out the other. Doesn't matter how much heavy metal, toxins, organic contaminants, salt, whatever is in the water, it will clean it using nothing but sand. But whatever it does actually uses up the sand (not a big deal, since sand is common, but it does need a constant supply) and also will eventually break the machinery, requiring high tech replacement parts that the star league used to control colonies.
>>98142578I would simply build my settlement around a source of fresh water, the way every human civilization did since the beginning of time. >>98142575Your source for this sweeping claim predates the revelation of the Iran-Contra affair. Do you think it's possible the setting has grown or changed since then?
>>98142626Considering the Housebooks are literally the foundation of all lore and remain so with stuff like even the handbooks being largely reprints and CGL themselves used to give art stripped versions for free lore primer, I reiterate my point on you being a disingenuous faggot.
>>98142626>I would simply build my settlement around a source of fresh waterAssuming the world has a source of water that is in a drinkable state in the first place.
Anyone willing to provide a bit of guidance as to what box(es) to start with?Fortunately I do not need the rules because the store owner loves BT so there is endless material there.I did a demo game and got to use the Archer and the LRM 20s are a lot of fun. Also learned about the Piranha which just sounds absurdly fun, I did get to use some MG and while not the most impressive the speed is a drawI like the Clan Striker Star and Wolf's Dragoons because of the above, but there are a ton of boxes out there and I'm not sure what to move towards. I am a fan of mobility and munitions interest me more than lasersI am using mekbay but it is tedious to search a model, check it's stats and keep it in mind while looking at dozens of others
>>98142906You could try the Pursuit Lance box. None of those mechs are "good" by metagamey fag standards, but they are widely available and relatively fast.
>>98142906A Game of Armored Combat.Has everything you need to get started, and a good roster of mechs that can be found just about anywhere and any era you play in, and it comes with map sheets.Then get either Total Warfare or Battlemech Manual, if you want physical rulebooks.The other boxes you might want are Clan Invasion (which I haven't seen for a while, probably sold out now) and Mercenaries.Both have a good spread of mechs and map sheets that are different from the map sheets in A Game of Armored Combat.Or you can wait for the new Core Box set, which is supposed to be released this August. But knowing CGL, that will actually release anywhere from Christmas 2026 to middle of July next year.(CGL is not a well run company)The Trove has pdfs of everything.Also try Mekbay.com. Can be switched between Classic and Alphastrike, to look up record sheets and cards for mechs and vehicles.
>>98141410>Those "worlds" were the equivalent of Antarctic mining operationsI don't know if this is ever really stated to be the case. If that were true then planets like Trellwan would have some sort of raw materials export (digging shit up is not THAT hard) but they do minor agriculture instead, and I don't think Trellwan is ever noted to have any real resources of note. There are plenty of Periphery planets that are basically just dust balls that Star League decided to put roots down on
>>98143194During the Terran Alliance and the Star League, colonists were colonizing for all kinds of reasons, including "stupid" reasons like keeping their cult as isolated as possible or seeing if they could get away with establishing a world where glorious leader gets to have as big of a harem as he wants and also legally mandate who's in it (note that these can overlap heavily) or escaping persecution or gaining national prestige by being able to say that you have space colonies even if they're worthless and you only go there once a year to make sure nobody else has taken it.
>>98143204Also also many colonies were established outside of the legal methods of doing so, more than a few times the Terran Alliance pushed a colony out further than they had ever gone before only to find people already on that world and the next two or three further out.
>>98143209It's very funny how the only governments willing to trail of tears people on a regular basis are clanners and the RotS. Even Amaris didn't do that.
>>98143267Even clanners don't send you to actual dying worlds like the Stoners do. Phecda is an absolute hellhole.
>>98140462>The entire point of the setting has been anti-colonialist, anti-interventionist, "war is bad" since the 80s.If that's the case why are the good guy factions the literal brits and military industrial complex germans?
>>98140870>his own son recognizes that Hanse was part of the problem.His own son should not throw stones.
>>98141108All of this is wrong, the Star League was actually bad because it infringed on many nations who didn't opt in.
>>98143682That person is right in that the actual history barely matters. The Star League exists firmly as background lore instead of the actual setting because its role is the same as ancient Rome's in the real world: not an actual time and place, but a rhetorical device for people to project their own values onto.
>By yours truly. Back when the original Pride Anthology dropped in 2023, people asked me if I had anything else planned for the character from the first story, "Masquerade." Hopefully this answers that question (and won't be the last we see of her).>this character appears in the lead-off story from the 2023 Pride Anthology, "Masquerade." While not fully canon (since that anthology is a fan project), I did canonize the character previously alongside one of the mentioned events in an article from Shrapnel 17, "The Triple-Ls."I blaim you guys not bother to writing and submitting shits; because of you guys' neglection this shits happen
>>98143872>I blaim you guys not bother to writing and submitting shits; because of you guys' neglection this shits happenYou should learn to spell first, ESL.
You know it’d be kind of interesting if the periphery actually became something of a threat again. Maybe have the newly-established 3rd Star League’s expansion push waves of refugees out into the periphery states, creating new colonies and giving the peripherybros new materiel and an expanded manpower base to use as a way to build themselves back up while the IS is busy trying to deal with the IlClan.This could also engender further disdain towards the idea of the Star League and possibly create support for a potential radical faction to take power on an ideology of destroying the Star League as an idea.We have so many factions that want to take over Terra, why not make one that wants to destroy it?
>>98141378'tis poor bait, m'lord.
>>98143926Rather than a wave of Refugees, I'd be more interested in an initial IlClan surge outwards taking a bit of territory, but they very quickly realize that they can't sustain the rapid expansion, and so focus on just connecting up all the territory currently under their control and defending it, creating an overarching hard point.Great Houses try and see if they can crack it, but this overall looks like the Third Succession War with some lower intensity conflicts after some time passes. Said Great Houses start to look for where they can get an edge and start dusting off the old colonization of new worlds and periphery adventurism books, the specific mix depending on the specific house temperament and positioning.Sorta run it as for the first time in centuries, the Inner Sphere starts to look outwards again. Eyeballing the look:>FedSuns and the Capellans have the general problem of most of their expansion via pushing out colonization being blocked because there's people in the way, so they're pushed more towards diplomacy and covert operations to establish a way through partnerships or other means. Capellans far moreso if the Andurians come back and fill in the Fronc to Taurian empty space.>Free Worlds League is one of the main regions with open fighting due to clashes with the Dutchy of Andurian and the Marian Hegemony.>The Lyrans are playing an equivalent of the UK-Russia Great Game with the Scorpion Empire as both try to establish infrastructure over various systems to enforce claims.>The Combine is forced to deal with the situation where they have built up as a conquering focus but they can't really conquer much because they are seperated by the Clan Star League connection lines and they are struggling with doing peaceful colonization.>Clans are generally going quiet, focusing on internal buildup, but are sending out scouting probes to figure out what the hell is going on back at their homeworlds after the long period of silence.
>>98143985(2/2)It's a quieter era, but not as quiet as the pre-Grey Monday Republic Era. This is mostly to space things out from the likely chaos the IlClan era's gonna have. Throughout it, as things are build up, I'd say the foreshadowing for the next era would probably be built up for a mix of the Anti-Star League sentiment mentioned in >>98143926 as well as an Outer Reaches Rebellion 2.0 from these new colonies backfiring on the Great Houses just as they did for the Terran Alliance. That becomes the next big event. After that, things become a bit too nebulous from too many potential directions.Gun to my head? Two most damaged Great Houses join the Clan Star League at the same time some of the Clans (likely Ravens Alliance) break away. This nebulous post-event era has the Clan Star League teetering between the idea of expanding or the high chance of falling apart.
>>98143926>You know it’d be kind of interesting if the periphery actually became something of a threat again. Maybe have the newly-established 3rd Star League’s expansion push waves of refugees out into the periphery statesSounds like what happened after the collapse of the Terra-based arm of the WoB.
>>98143926>You know it’d be kind of interesting if the periphery actually became something of a threat againIf the lore writers weren't unimaginative hacks, they very well could have been. 2SL could have gutted the Houses killing off the Clans, then bled them some more establishing a meager post-Clans destruction new SLDF, giving the Periphery states a century of "peace" to amass forces not beholden to 2SL's levy program. Powers like the Taurians and Marians could actually be viable threats to their neighboring Houses; if a blitz happened and the new SLDF actually lost against the Periphery onslaught, it leaves weakened Houses at a fraction of their past strength scrambling to respond while world after world falls. If a bone must be thrown to the fanatics, the Periphery states get a huge tech upgrade and vengeful reinforcements in the form of Clan remnants that escaped the 2SL's purge of the Homeworlds and have taken up residence in the outskirts of the Inner Sphere and see the Periphery as a nesting ground for a resurgence to topple this "false" 2SL. No stupid Wall, not need for the RotS, just sheer exhaustion of the House militaries crushing the Clans and an unprepared 2SL facing a time-strengthened Periphery looking for a reverse-Uno Reunification War where they're the aggressors.
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>>98144169Umm New Blake Empire?Arise Faithfull! Arise!
>>98144169>>98144201We'll never get more Robes for years, I guess. For sure we'll get the Celestial box (three years late because we needed Battlefleet Gothic in the meantime) but the direly-needed WoB/Comstar post-3052 mech boxes are nowhere to be seen. A pity.I do wonder how they could sell new Celestial production in the 3150ies, though. They're essentially incredibly weird designs in the Battletech universe, I mean, a group of Mechs/BA/AF/LAMs all with a cohesive design philosophy and graphic design, there's nothing quite like it. Giving them to the Scorpions or something would feel wrong.
>>98143003>which is supposed to be released this August. But knowing CGL, that will actually release anywhere from Christmas 2026 to middle of July next year.It's slated to release the month after leviathans
I don't know who I am anymore, I'm getting too much money.
>>98144615The bugs are back.
>>98144615A fake Clan that ought to be Absorbed is what you are, surat.
>>98144622I wish I could make a superheavy mech that can carry infantry just like battle armor can cling onto mechs>150 ton mech carrying five 20 ton mechs, each carrying fice dudes in battle armor
What is this 'for'? Why would a mech need cargo space? Are there any record sheets that actually include this? It claims it's available in introtech.
>>98144235We're still waiting for the Reaving era stuff that was supposed to be here LAST year.
>>98144757Ah yes, that too. It feels like they're heavily pushing IlClan stuff instead of filling out Civil War or Jihad eras, but .... hey, who the fuck understands CGL's priorities. They're complete buffoons and incompetent.
>>98144669RPG stuff mainly. Supplies for lasting out on the field and exploring. SHD-5S has got it which incidentally is about one of the few decent Shad variants.
>>98144757CGL really showcasing the predictable outcome of 100% outsourcing manufacturing to a single source in the place most likely to see some kind of trade disruption. Im sure Mexicans could do this.
>>98144669Extra supplies or "mission equipment" probably related to being a spook.
>>98144623You cant just absorb clans forever. Sooner or later you're going to have to spin off some new ones.
>>98145255I'm sure Lira Int. (I think that's their name) is doing the patriotic thing and holding the plastic molds hostage. For the greater good of communist china.
>>98144669A camper.
>>98145296Not any more ridiculous than privateer press having their molds stolen and repurposed to into dollar store toys.
>>98145303stolen, or repurposed after a contract expired? Because that happens every time someone has manufacturing done in china, even as simple as "the lease on the warehouse was up, next day before stuff could possibly be moved out it was all sold" these are the hazards of outsourcing to a nation not under the law of your own.
>>98145372They manufacturer held the molds hostage and demanded more money and when PP didn't pay them the molds disappeared.
>>98145423That's why you don't outsource to a foreign nation, especially not one known for shady business practices.The only thing I find negative in this story is that no one will learn from this.
>>98145291Why not both?
>>98137012>LesbianSo close, yet so far. They should be bisexual.
>>98145471Oh I agree entirely. Outsourcing a simple product for the sake of cost is an inherently sketchy behavior in the first palace, the entire purpose is to deliberately underpay for labor and skirt your own country's laws, when you do it and get fucked over you have it coming, particularly if you're so fucking dumb you haven't even lined up an alternate or made any attempt to develop any manufacturing capability of your own.
The Flea is the most soulful light to ever exist. Even the Urbie quakes in the presence of FleaGODS.
>>98145479What I actually want is star adder to absorb all the HW clans and split them up into new ones with a puritan ideology and then launch wars against the clan hybrid states. I just think it would be cool and we could have new cool new totem mechs and stuff.
>>98145570That's not how you spell locust.
>>98145549>or made any attempt to develop any manufacturing capability of your own.Good news, everybody, they bought IWM!
>>98145541>They should be bisexual.That's a maybe with the Merchant Caste.
>>98145570Force a 20t upon me and it shall be Stinger.
>>98145608Doesn't that literally just consist of one guys private garage full of handmade molds for production by hand?
>>98145570I just like the FLE-4 having a rear mounted flamer means that the last thing infantry will see is a Flea squatting over them farting fire in their faces.
>>98145633I was under the impression that IWM's the hobby division of a reasonably large metal casting company.The owner likes gaming miniatures, so he set some of his company aside to make them.
>>98145633It is actually a small business but its like a light industrial shed basically and their equipment and process is as old as shit.
>>98145676So a step between private garage and proper manufacture then.That still sounds to me like something CGL will never seriously use, they wanted the rights in the acquisition, they may have made statements about continuing production but I'd bet that once the reality of what that involves is made clear to them they'll backtrack fast.
>>98140837>>98140870> trying to retcon the clans to be racist and sexistSexist? I dunno. The old sourcebook art was pretty cheesy (in a fun way), but BT has never been particularly sexist. For any faction. Has this somehow changed recently?Racist? At least in the 90's scenario books, the clanners were looking down on spheroids. Racism might be an unifitting word, but the tone was there.
>>98145739Yeah you missed the material he's talking about, with the merchant caste clanner complaining about contemporary anti-black racism in their society that has a eugenics and genetic engineering program where everyone's ancestry was hand picked by the great leader hundreds of years ago and children are raised communaly and the discrimination that exists is intentional and codified by law.Which is to say dogshit writing by someone who doesnt understand racism occurred.
>>98145571To avoid a bland "Clan Invasion 2: Electric Boogaloo" I think Star Adders trying to snuff out the corrupted clans and leave the spheroids to their own devices might work. Essentially the sphere clans are an inherent threat to corrupting the homeworld clans and need to be destroyed for corrupting Kerensky's vision. At the same time spheroids can just fuck off and keep killing each other.>Scorpion Empire attacked by the full might of new clans and annihilated in short order>Too far out in the periphery for any inner sphere powers to try and intervene, especially with how quickly the campaign is executed>Allow the civilians to mostly live their lives as they use the former Scorpion Empire as a staging ground>Attack the Jade Falcons, don't ally with Lyrans but also don't actively fight them, just executing any clanners and using planets as a staging ground for further advances>Ilkhan Ward calls on all clanners to unite against the homeworld clans which they doI could see the Lyrans and Draconis at least taking advantage of the clans being distracted to launch massive invasions of the IS clans. As for outcome. If one desires to maintain status quo above all, Star Adders hit Terra, execute Ward, say mission accomplished, and limp home, threatening to come back if the IS clans ever get uppity. If one is okay killing off factions (which I support, I think bringing back the Gray Death Legion, ELH, and FWL was stupid) the IS clans are essentially destroyed, the survivors are fully integrated into the inner sphere at best akin to mercs with weird customs but largely abandoning any pretensions of being part of a wider clan culture that's in any sense united.
