>>98142918
>>What do you think of the Gehenna Prophecy?
I'm still learning, as I'm still quite close to being a Neonate (and still get treated like one by others a whole lot) but in all honesty? 'Meh'. A lot seemed to be coated in millennialism end-of-time rapture shit but for vampires but we're still standing. Whatever may have occurred was not the end of our kind, especially since I was embraced after the turn of the millennium,

>>98142918
>Do all vampires hate each other, see other vampires as competition for food or idiots who will bring the wrath of humanity down on them?

Yes.

>does vampire blood thicken with age such that we eventually can no longer subsist on animal blood?

Yes.

>Can it be infered then that with enough time a vampire might no longer be able to feed on human blood and require pure Vitae?

Ayep.

>Does a vampire only trust another vampire so long as they are clearly superior to the other?

Aside from a few fringe cases? oh yeah.

>Can one vampire consume the soul and power of another vampire like some sick fucking Connor MaCLeod knockoff?

Oh ho ho fuck yes!

Can you do math?

We'll know who can't when all the mind raped camarilla pawns flood the thread to pretend there is no such thing as methuselah and call me a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Don’t give me shit for this, but is the Jersey Devil actually real? I’ve seen the pines at night and I swear there is something big and fast fucking around in the dark.

>>98143162
Oh please I'd love to know for sure. Found out last month about those werewolf fucks which pretty much ruined everything for my sire and I. Now I have started compiling every bit of information I can on everything. Not a scholar mind you, not by a long shot and odds are most I get is at least partially wrong but if it can save my ass in the future....

>>98142918
gehenna only happens when enough crackhead elders believe it. an i mean 'believe' and 'stake any poor mother fucker who asks what a 'nod' is' believe. otherwise it all happened once i reckon.

wow dad. yea when you spite sire kids they turn on you. real fucking genius you are for predicting that.

stupid bastard.

>>98143162
sort of- maybe? did a whole mail-in thing back in the 60s and theres something off over in jersey. but theres also a bunch of mangy werewolves, at least two masquerade violations that are a lil sloppy, an some unconfirmed shit.

so take your pick. or better yet, get yourself some cameras and microphones. licks always flake out on record.

>>98143178
good fledge, now youre getting somewhere.
word of advice, make physical back-ups and keep a kill switch on your primary data reserve.

>>98143205
>good fledge, now youre getting somewhere.
Sire and I lost our ghouls, the guys working with/for our ghouls, several feeding grounds and also a huge chunk of our (admittedly small scale and insular) black market of acquiring things to resell to other Kindred (we used to spy on, manipulate and influence or worm a ghoul into the various delivery guys). ALL OF THIS FUCKING LOST! Because some goddam furries went on some sort of holy yiffing crusade or something over some of the product we were shipping around the trailer parks and I'm still not even sure wtf went down but APPARENTLY it is because of the beer (of all things) being tied to a company tied to a larger company etc. Something in the shit we were moving around and reselling to vamps and humans alike (hey, if it works it works) for cheap apparently was magically or spiritually contaminated or something and this got the wolves hunting down our operations.

Oh for those wondering why vamps would buy beer from us: you under estimate how many local guys really, really like getting drunk on piss-tasting beer by sucking it off their blood dolls. Lots of alcoholics around the Nashville trailer parks. I know a few guys who even reward their ghouls with a few extra pack of beers and smokes to keep 'em motivated.

>>98143178
My campfire stories can’t be very useful for a note-taker but sure, I’ll give you the annotated version.
In ‘93 I was humping through the woods with some pals laughing and generally feeling invincible, we all had Big Fledgeling Syndrome and our sire was a softie who gave us a lot of leash.
We followed some campers in the pine, not to eat them (we were softies too) but just to practice our sneaking. And maybe to throw some rocks, give them a little scare.
Anyway we got distracted and go up creek instead and my buddy hears this awful screaming, not animalistic, more like ‘I’m being eaten alive by a bear please shoot me’ screams. So we think damn, some sick fuck is skinning those campers and we’re gonna get shit for it. So we go back.
Long story short the campers were fine but scared witless, all hugging each other around a fire. They heard it too.
Big fucking thing was running around in the dark. I didn’t see it, couldn’t find a single footprint, but my mates found at least three skinny oaks uprooted by the campsite.
Just flipped upside down and buried the wrong way, roots sticking up in the air. Didn’t make sense to do that. Lots of other trees were gone too, just obliterated. Only splinters.
We asked an elder once and he looked at us like we were retarded and said that garou don’t scream. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned its that people just say shit to sound correct.
>>98143205
Maybe that can be a fun hazing exercise for the FNGs. I don’t live in Jerseyy anymore but I still eat crayons, so not much has changed.

>>98143221
>>98143224
and that is all it takes.

you aint the first person to get spiritually tracked. you wont be the last.
funny thing. you know we got malks that can smell russians? something about the shit that happened in the ussr and that whole scuffle with ol babushka.
bad time waiting for you if you dont know that

now back to you shrinkles
id rec you get and your network get a screener. preferably not a fish fucker but if your doing contrabeer runs a schizo with reliability will do . not like i can complain. youngns in the den still traffic cigars off-island.

>>98143276
I'm told the local Nosferatus 'shored up our defenses' for our hovels in case the furry fucks go deeper to track us down. A lot of it I'm kept in the dark but I know we gathered all the guns, home made explosives and several home made flamethrowers. I'm told it won't do much if the wolves show up but it might buy time for an escape if the worst happen.

Fortunately, for now, it seems they've backed off out of Nashville. Emphasis on FOR NOW because who knows if/when they will come back. Bastards make me paranoid that the next time I jump a hobo he turns into a giant, furry roided out monsters with claws that can disembowel me. Sure, I can punch a guy pretty hard but that won't stop an eight feet tall rage monster.

>>98143221
>Because some goddam furries went on some sort of holy yiffing crusade or something over some of the product we were shipping around the trailer parks and I'm still not even sure wtf went down but APPARENTLY it is because of the beer (of all things) being tied to a company tied to a larger company etc
King Breweries?

>Thread Question
Erm...
>>98143146
What is this about and what do you think can be done about it?

>>98144124
That's the Gehenna prophecy. Some old ass vampires are hiding out, paranoid as fuck and eyeing each other jealously. They're prepping for war. And our blood is their ammo.

The nitty gritty of the prophecy is specificaly about the grandchilder of Cain, and the biggest warning sign is the thin bloods. Makes sense; the thin bloods are kind if like munition plants shutting down. War is going to start soon. But soon by vampire time scale. So bear in mind, we're talking about the fact there are like, what? 12, 13 generations between the fourth human being to ever exist?

The only thing to be done is dig those shitheads out of their holes and kill them first. Sucks for the vamps that run cover for 'em. They're in the way.

>>98144124
The Gehenna Prophecy is a vampire apocalypse that foretells of a time where the ancient founders of the clans will rise from their slumber and devour their descendants wholesale. If I had to guess, Stripper is saying that the prophecy is self evidently true based on the observable actions of elder kindred: that even at the best of times they are barely restrained bundles of paranoia who view everyone else as a potential threat, and possibly as a pawn to be used in schemes against other elder kindred.

As for whether elder kindred must feed from other kindred to sustain themselves; I can't say if there is any actual truth to it. It's possible that these elder kindred simply see it as a more efficient form of hunting: why hunt and drain 10 kine when a single younger kindred will do?

>>98142918
I reject most many nodddist foundations. Primacy of Gehenna included.

>>98144124
The Book of Nod are a rough set of three very important and very dangerous books of vampire lore. On grounds your new sect often executes people over them.

Of these three the 'Chronicle of Secrets' laid out by Grandmother Z is the most pressing as it lays out 'Gehenna,' a hypothetical apocalypse that will afflict the world.

Just... One tiny problem. In all likelyhood Gehenna has already happened. Most of the astrological and environmental signs have and will happen again, caitiffs and thinbloods cyclically arise, and if there are truly a bunch of ancients like some carry on about the antideluvians and ur founders, they likely already beat the tar from one another, hence their absence.

Not unlike the book of Revelations, now that I think about it.

I would be happy to send you a copy of the book but unlike our dearest Sorcerer's Koldun basics homework, it would actively put you at risk. But if you ever come to Canada and want to be ACTIVELY WORSE? Well, you might spontaneously learn of it in my company. Crazy, right?

>>98144786
>>98144857
>>98144980
Is this another thing like the Mayan end of the world or the Millennium Bug? What does my sect say?

>>98145892
Your sect is the disposable pawns and/or willing collaborators with the bad guys of the Prophecy.

>>98144124
Founders of the Thirteen Clans that make up most of vampirekind will awaken, eat us all and go to war with their Ur-Sire, Caine.
The Sabbat's plan is kill them while they sleep, failing that, gain enough personal power to hold the line until Caine rolls in.
The Camarilla's is to bury their heads in the sand, if not take orders from them in Secret.
>>98144980
This from the woman who very likely killed a (granted benign and forlorn) piece of The Eldest. Least that's Widow's theory.

>>98144786
>That's the Gehenna prophecy. Some old ass vampires are hiding out, paranoid as fuck and eyeing each other jealously. They're prepping for war. And our blood is their ammo.
Sometimes I think the religious angle is just made up bullshit to wage war for petty political reasons. Not unlike how humans do in a certain region I won't name. It seems more logical to me this is just Elders Cold War bullshit than an apocalyptic prophecy.

Here is what I have managed to see and analyze for myself and has (mostly) been corroborated by older Kindred:
>Werewolves are fucking real
That one isn't up for debate, they are real. For a while I thought we vamps were the only ones around beside maybe zombies and ghosts but nope. This one isn't a shocked to those of you more in the know but it was for me, having been embraced (relatively) recently
>Werewolves can change shape between man, wolf (or a very ugly dog-looking wolf for some apparently) and ROIDED OUT manwolf
Can confirm having sighted the first two or seen evidence of these, with footprints changing to paws. The whole 'hulking out into a big bipedal manwolf' I have not seen for myself but has been commented on multiple time by older Kindred whose information I trust completely, at least on such matters. I can at least confirm this is at least partially different from Kindred who are able to use the ability we call 'Protean'.
>Werewolves are way stronger than we are
Haven't seen this one directly but I have seen the remains of my sire's ghouls as well as what at least one werewolf did to a truck, which implies a level of strength way beyond our strength enhancing abilities. The same trusted Kindred have told me their claws and teeth are razor sharp and can fuck us up as bad as the sun in some cases, which I'm guessing isn't just purely physical might but some bullshit magical ability they got. Speaking...
>Werewolves got magic bullshit
Like we got our Clan Disciplines, it seems there are different 'powers' of werewolf magic or so I am told. Cannot confirm this from second hand experience but it seems logical enough if we assume they work vaguely like we do. This could imply powers of strength, speed, senses and so on similar to our Disciplines. No clue what they call those, of course or what system of categorization they employ for it, if any at all.

>>98146184
>Werewolves have Clans(?)
Since they apparently don't reproduce by biting and turning people it seems these guys have their own Clan structure or something similar to it. Presumably based on actual bloodlines, since they are alive and can raise kids by all accounts. Some of the older Kindred have discussed many of the guys who roamed our territory are called Bone Gnashers or something similar and have members across the masses of smelly hoboes, trailer trash and those beneath notice by society which seems to at least partially imply a similarity to my own clan, Nosferatu. Apparently some wolf clans also have lineages amongst the Native Americans so it seems some of that Skinwalker stuff wasn't just internet spooky stories after all. Makes me wonder if they can also turn into crows or coyotes and shit.
>Werewolves have their own Ghouls(?)
Some humans seem to carry 'wolf blood' but can't shapeshift and this roughly makes them the Ghoul analogue but is a born condition, not something created.
>Werewolves are weak to silver
Seems that, like us, they do have their own odd weaknesses that pop culture got right.

Beyond the usual Horror movie fare there's a whole lot less werewolf lore than there is vampire lore from the looks of it. A lot seem tied to folklore of the medieval era and other paganistic influences mixing with Christian beliefs. Could a cross repel them, like I'm told some crosses (or people of faith) supposedly can to us? Could bleeding a werewolf by making a cross on it's forehead or similar weird shit work? If anyone knows, tell me because im hardly eager to go try myself.

See this is where I'd shrug and carry on some of my old safety blanky beliefs I picked up under House Goratrix- But-

>>98145997
WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE DARK FATHERS FRECKLED ASS ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT?!

>>98146196
>>98146184
As someone who has the SUPREME DISPLEASURE of being in immediate range of the Lupines, they're weirder than they have any rite to be, and could pull off bullshit I can't describe. Don't get fancy with weaknesses, just make space.

>>98146254
>they're weirder than they have any rite to be
Come on, I find it hard to believe that a shapeshifting wolf man could have any powers weirder than a Vampire. What, do they shoot lasers made of moonbeams out of their eyes? Do they have magic anime werewolf kung fu? Come on man, everyone know Vampires are the ones with weird powers like turning into mist and shit.

>>98146287
There are some things I can share as they do not fall under my Ductus' weird... "Thing" she has with the wolf-men. I watched on a security camera as one of my former 'peers' was torn apart by a Lupine which emerged from a mirror. I saw the back of that mirror, it just popped out of the reflection and turned the last best chance of the Gorgon Chantryhouse into fucking kibble.

That is but one example. There are other things I am honour bound not to share. Although one of those things you said is correct and I HATE IT JUST SO MUCH OH YOU WOULDNT BELIEVE IT THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT

>>98146184
>>98146196
spirits

>>98145892
Not particularly, although worries about the Mesoamerican calendar did coincide with a burst of fear about Gehenna. Your sect says worries about this (or seeking basic information) are basically a Sabbatism. Which would be dumb if we didn't have fledglings turning Antitribu IMMEDIATELY like fucking fictional lemmings the moment they hear about Antideluvians.

The only ones worse are the Cammies that go 'Wow, cool ancient I can cannibalize!'

>>98145997
Widow is free to theorize, but the sad reality is we don't know.

What I do know is that thing woke up the absolute worse in seemingly everyone who saw it. From NWBP going 'hmm yes today I shall sacrifice orphans to the meat pit' to that degenerate cannibal freak. And I'm glad it finally knew peace from the bad dream it afflicted every passing Malk with.

>>98146254
Hush ya's.

>>98146254
>WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE DARK FATHERS FRECKLED ASS ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT?!
During the conflict that drove your ductus from Milwaukee (?), she dug up a bizarre entity. About the size of a train, made of disorganized flesh and prone to driving cainite and cainille alike loony. It was an object of study for a certain pharmaceutical, one without enough "fuck you" money and clout to tell a company that works for an actual cosmic horror "Yeah, but naw."
H0T killed it.
>>98147528
>but the sad reality is we don't know.
Not yet, at least. Troubling thing is it matches the description of a number of rumors surrounding other cities. Though none as big or maddening as Milwaukee.

No.

NO NO NO WHAT IS WITH THIS FRYER DISCHARGE SHARED WITH UTTER SUPREME BANALITY ON A FUCKING NOSFERATU KNITTING FORUM

>Oh surely the jumped up beach bum from the Los Angeles' graveyard is mocking me
>Oh hang on a moment this forum has some archives
>That will surely clear this up

>Let us see...
>Ah...
>Yes...

CLEARLY I MUST HAVE BEEN EMBRACED BY CLAN MALKAVIAN AND I ONLY JUST NOTICED BECAUSE THIS SHIT MAKES THE MUTTERING OF CREEPY EYES LOOK FUCKING SANE

THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS?!

>>98148053
Thank you kindly Cammie Killer Crypt.

>>98147528
WHEN YOU GET BACK YOU ARE TELLING ME EVERYTHING AND YOU ARENT HIDING BEHIND THAT 'OOH HARD TO EXPLAIN SHIT' WITH THIS SHIT YOU WANT TO PULL WE NEED ABSOLUTE TRUST

So we got vamps (duh), we got spirits, ghosts, wizards, faeries and possibly bigfoot and the chupacabra is there any other nightmare critter that DOESN'T exist? How the hell did I miss all of those when mortal because according to you guys the world is crawling with all this fantasy rpg nonsense. What's next, angel and demons? I mean okay maybe, those make sense if God and Cain are somewhat real but what else is lurking there? Manbearpig?

>>98142918
it is interesting in the mistranslations.
the works of the mnemosynes are curious in their excellent grasp of archaic greek in tandem with their poorer understanding of earlier languages
once you recognize it, entire portions become... dubious. and several double entendre are completely ignored by their butchered english conversion.

>>98148466
you seek to label things already, larvae?
that is not the worst idea but i caution you, there shall always be some wrench awaiting a man of certainty.

keep the words of alamut close to your heart.
>nothing is true, and in this, all things are permitted.

I'm so fucking lonely.
I am king nobody of somewhere that doesn't matter. On a map, my dominion stretches far. But there's no fucking people here. I'm a rat, skulking from dying town to dying town.

All because I had the audacity to get embraced wrong.

2nd class.
Errand Chancellor: "Did you ever set foot in New York City? Can you travel during the day?"
Errand Knight: "No."
C: "Still think you're should deliver that letter yourself?"
K: "Better if one of your ghouls does it."
C: "Selecting the right person of the job is part of the duties of those with power. What's the worst payment the Giovanni will ask of you?"
K: "An assassination."
C: "I'd say the worst imaginable is a breach of the Traditions, our trust or otherwise acting against our Sect. But yours is the more likely answer. Why?"
K: "Their Elder effectively saved me from the Scourge of NY. It's a life for a life, and... 'something' explicitly told me their clan can use an assassin."
C: "Good. Why not use your skills just for espionage?"
K: "I don't know."
C: "They already have the best spies: invisible ghosts pressed into their service. How would you perform your likely task?"
K: "Study the target. Don't get caught."
C: "Are you the best person for the job?"
K: "Our ghouls don't know my Disciplines."
C: "Let me ask another question, what about the Right of Destruction?"
K: "Another reason I mustn't get caught."
C: "What if the target is found violating the Traditions? Do you think the Giovanni will complain if a Blood Hunt is called?"
K: "They'll be happy as long as the target dies."
C: "Meaning the Sheriff can be the right person for the job. Or the whole Sect in New Orleans. What if the target is a mortal?"
K: "It's open season."
C: "What if said mortal knows too much?"
K: "Then, to protect the Masquerade, the Prince will use his power."
C: "See? Depending on the circumstances, this debt to the Giovanni can make you a hero of the Traditions. Or a villain."

>>98148466
You shouldn't forget your kine vampire hunters. Now, the critters which "do not exist" are called Bygones, I'm not an expert, you can ask the nearest Tremere for the details if you want, but I'd worry more about what things that do go bump in the night, or day, over those which do not.

>>98149123
Sean we aren't calling you Conquest
Just come to the meeting in Norfolk you dramatic mother fucker

>>98151024
I'm in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest, not Virginia.

Genuinely, I am pretty sure I am the only kindred for miles except for the occasional Gangrel or Ravnos passing through.

>>98151842
Not Norfolk Virginia. Or Norfolk New York. Or Norfolk Missouri. Or Norfolk Massachusetts. Or... Norfolk... Canada?
Why are there so many places called Norfolk?
I'm in Norfolk NZ. Dickie. Weird we got some guy who sounds just like you but that's how it goes.

Youre basically in west siberia kindred IDK come to North Island or something.

>>98151842
>only kindred
So? That's the norm outside of the cities.
>YOU ARE NOT HUMAN FLEDGING
So take those little pitiful remnants of the faggot you were in life and try to do a bit better the second time around, Sally.

Something is going to happen tonight I think.

Legion is mobilizing, seems someone in the Moctozumas flipped.

>>98148584
>you seek to label things already, larvae?
See it like this: humans who live around dangerous things tend to prepare for them in some capacity. For example, areas prone to earthquake, tsunamis, floods etc tend to have people's clothes, tools and buildings adapted for the weather conditions like how they got snow tires in colder states and Canada and how buildings are built to withstand weather conditions. Humans prepare themselves or at least try to be vigilant around venomous animals.

It is a whole lot similar, if I'm to spend fuck how many centuries in this messed up world I'd rather be at least minimally prepared to know how to at least avoid/escape things that can eat my (ugly) face off.

The Sabbat has claimed responsibilty for the attacks on southern Florida. Though they have made no attempt to consolidate as of yet. The Camarilla has responded by bringing in older vampires from other domains to take the empty offices in domains so damaged there was no one to promote from said domain. The power vaccum could not be tollerated; I had heard rumors that some supernatural powers were already probing the weakened domains. I am still unsure of what the objective of these attacks was, though I suspect the goal was mostly to see how the Camarilla would respond. Keep your ears to the ground.

>>98154089
The Masquerade is your first and best bet in general, if it can protect you from eight million kine, to some extent it can help you remain undetected from our fellow supernatural creatures. It even helps said creatures, and critics and detractors of the Masquerade among Kindred.

The other advice Kindred have for fledglings and neonates is to avoid the wilderness and countryside, where they are more likely to encounter our most frequent enemies, the lupines, and to choose flight over fight every single time. Much like kine would prefer to fight us in groups versus one Kindred, we are safest in the city, stay close to your Sire and brood if you can.

The Nosferatu rely on their mastery of stealth and information to avoid and survive threats of all kinds, my Clan uses extra-sensorial perception to distinguish kine from the others, so do Tremere, Toreador or Malkavians, but if you need a teacher an older clanmate would be ideal, as with any other subject.

"Any sufficiently powerful wizard is indistinguishable from a god", or "Werewolves can cross the spirit realm to travel quickly and launch ambushes", or "You can't beat God, Caine, Lilith or Lucifer in a fight" are not helpful lessons for a fledgling who still struggles to find a meal, and would die instantly to such potent foes regardless of his or her preparedness, so they're not typically included in "Kindred 101."

>>98146287
If you are unfortunate enough to work with or against the wolves long enough, you'll get to see one of them step into a lake or a mirror or sometimes their own glasses. Just like that - one moment they're there, another they're gone. Sometimes it takes a bit of time, but the result is still a disappearance, not just invisiblity or something.
Or, even more unfortunately, you'll see one hop out of a cup of tea a ghoul brewed. It's why, if you're paranoid, you ought to make sure beverages have caps on them, the chance of a werewolf appearing out of nowhere to eat you is always quite slim, but never zero!

>>98148466
Dragons and unicorns seem to not exist, though it seems like there's always at least one Tzimisce or Tremere out there trying to make new ones as a hobby or vanity project.

>>98155071
If you think dragons and unicorns don't exist, you simply haven't been looking in the right places. Most of us can't get to those places, since the things inside them really, really don't like us, what with the whole abomination against nature and all.
>>98155056
>>98154089
>Avoid the wilderness
That's just what your elders want you to think. Yes, we've got the wolves out here, and they can be a serious problem. If you are an idiot. Your senses are sharper than you realize, and it doesn't take too long to figure out if that smell wafting on the breeze is just another cattle farm or a wolf's border line.
Keep out of the DEEP wilds. Skirt the hinterlands of humanity, and remember: You don't actually get tired. You just think you do. So stop thinking you need to stop running to catch your breath. You don't breathe any more.

>>98155485
Oy lad! We thought you'd gotten got with your absence. Hows the works en?

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The Winnipeg “Situation” (Recap 7)

And then there was one real Pack.

> Last night right after dusk the Basalt Legion and their Archbishop made to clear out their remaining in-sect opposition
> Why? Two reasons.
> #1: Several members of the pack clearly rejected the ultra-con tendencies of the Moctozumas, or at least, want to be on the winning side of this war. Polarizing both the priest and the Ductus in opposite directions.
> #2: There is some heavyweight shit coming in from both Mexico and Quebec to unhinge the Legion.
> Despite this Pontius has allies in his deranged ambitions. Someone tried to car-bomb the Templar coming for Pontius from the south.
> This only mildly inconvenienced him. Didn't even hurt the horse.
“Lol” said the Headless Horseman's horse with that fat soak, “LMAO”

> Right as Night fell Pontius and his pet Fox broke their way into the formerly hidden haven of the Moctozumas
> Romero yielded, apparently borderline catatonic and promising to stay out of the way
> As long as he was granted freedom to leave Winnipeg and Manitoba as a whole
> Let them just wander on in and secure the bottom floor of the shop they were squatting in
> Upstairs on the roof Tlaloc was waiting for Pontius, apparently out of his mind with rage at what Pontius was 'toying with'
> Tlaloc 'Read the Entrails' to see Pontius' triumph, and told him he'll choke on it
> Now, for reference, he'd been losing his mind since the battle of Saint Boniface
> And had apparently doused the building with gas
> Pontius made a little fuck-up. He didn't think Tlaloc had the guts to do it, even when cornered. He thought it was a bluff.
> Tlaloc drenched himself, lit a match, and tackled Pontius in a suicide charge
> Whole building went up in moments and though Pontius managed to one tap the late priest, injuries were inflicted

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>>98156610

> After suffering that, Pontius dragged Romero to the city of town and gave him the treatment Tlaloc gave the former Moctozuma haven
> We watched, all this happened early enough only I and two Loup friends were on recon from the foliage
> He must have known, or made a lucky guess he had spectators
> Pontius turned and shouted he would do as Rome did to the Icenii and Hebrews, to us in kind
> After he departed, apparently reorganizing his new pet pack of Moctozumas into the 'Turquoise Legion'
> Now while this was all well and good I'll let you all know a little secret
> Currently the Basalt Legion is down one of their members, and is currently getting prodded by Victoria and Horns
> I'd prefer some of his dangerous vassals, but I'll take what I can get

More as it comes. Winnipeg out.

>>98151842
Well congrats then hermit boy. You are spiritually Gangrel. I'll christen you in chicken blood and the kick in the ass when I'm free.

>>98148053
I only played a small part in all of that and we all know it. Now stop giving the poor Trem psychosis.

>>98154885
Are you sure that isn't them probing for the phantom Khamrii you identified?

>>98155485
>Keep out of the DEEP wilds.
Hey if you can make the wilds work for you in symbiosis, it's safer than civilization. As long as you have the temperament of hunting animals.

The rest is apt however. The body can be pushed beyond all reasonable limits as long as you keep the will for it.

Not gonna lie I don't feel confident going up against a guy who can walk off the IRA special
Will be up next time shit goes down Captain. Got a flamethrower and some of the good stuff for the ghetto-zulo guy.

Not sure what he was doing in New Orleans but I spotted one of my teachers from high school in the Rack. This world is getting too small for me.
Least I have Obfuscate.

>>98155071
>Dragons and unicorns seem to not exist, though it seems like there's always at least one Tzimisce or Tremere out there trying to make new ones as a hobby or vanity project.
Or to become one. My clans nicknames includes "dragon" and I'm pretty sure the triceratops thing my grandsire turned himself into counts at least as a lindwurm, and from what I've heard vicissitude can do, turning into a twenty foot long flying lizard that vomits flaming blood is well within reason.

I'm glad I got the hang of typing again.

>>98158244
It was always too cramped for people like us. Still glad I'm MIA and slandered back home I think.
Being able to obfuscate would be nice tho.

>>98158852
Someone somewhere just got very mad about the consensus.
I'm not sure what that is but keep doing it. >:)

>>98160098
>Being able to obfuscate would be nice tho.
You aren't? Was it not a discipline of the Malkavians?
>>98158852
>the triceratops thing my grandsire turned himself into
Excuse me what? Do vampires transform into dinosaurs now?

>>98162107
>You aren't? Was it not a discipline of the Malkavians?
As wittle baby Sorcerer says 'CEASE YOUR AFFECTIOUSNESS FOR THE ANTIDELUVIAN BROODING CONCEPT!' Ha. He's like an angry horse.

But... Well I kind of suck at it. Kind of associate it with being in a really bad place y'know? Plus I could do Dominate for a minute and that made my skin crawl.

>Excuse me what? Do vampires transform into dinosaurs now?
Dragons turn into whatever they please. Or something like that.

Should... Probab;y do a reading too.

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Well, I've made it to El Paso. Well, I didn't spend long in El Paso, but I'm here now in Juarez and let's see if we can get to the bottom of this. I don't know who's running this shit show, but I'm pretty sure it's shadows, you see more crowns here then you do beads at Mardi Gras. I ducked notice on the American side, but Juarez shows the full brunt of Sabbat rule, nothing over two story tall. Brutalist construction, shithole but a Lively night-life.

I didn't escape notice in Juarez. I feel a little bad, he was Sabbat Gangrel. He picked me up with crows not much past Dusk.Came at me with Fists, he hadn't spotted the knife apparently. I cut him open when his crows came at me. They didn't last long but long enough to distract me from his escape. I spent the rest of the night finding a friend. Struct in with a hooker who recognized me as what I am. Strange but not unexpected in Sabbat territory. I'm dug in, and I guess I'll find out if this heart of gold act is just that or not. She gave me the equivalent of a couple hundred dollars and a place to sleep during the day, I promised her a favour.

I don't think she's going to ask to be embraced. She has a shrine to Mary. She's obviously not had a soft life, perhaps she just wants to be set up on the El Paso side of the border. Time to get to work.

>>98162538
Honestly I think that's just Texas. Pissing in the eye of nature by bringing in plants from Missouri just to watch them die is common form.

Good hunting kin.

>>98162107
>Excuse me what? Do vampires transform into dinosaurs now?
See >>98162270
>Dragons turn into whatever they please.
The only limits to vicissitude are those of imagination and experience. For example I was 5'7" and 220lbs of fat when I was embraced, but quickly made myself 6'2" and 200lbs of muscle. Currently I'm about 7' tall and covered in 3" bone plating with retractable "Wolverine"-style bone claws, triple bone-spike-launchers in my forehead, no eyeholes, a fused ribcage, and I moved my heart into the center of my abdomen. I'm currently seeing my computer screen via auspex because my eyes are hidden behind 3" of bone. This bone armor redesign is the result of about 2 weeks of work. When the Winnipeg situation settles down I'm probably going to shed a good 50% of my current biomass and be a short skinny twink or something. I'm already tired of being huge.

>>98162839
Your clan really should switch nicknames with the Toreador. You're all such degenerates!

>>98162879
Just don't say that in front of an elder dragon or you might find yourself in a horrible fate worse than death.

>>98162879
i have seen the depths of evil in the carpathian mountains,
and i have had the infinite displeasure of dwelling near a dozen insufferable toreador princes.

no. disembowel yourself.

Speaking of Toreadors, a Harpy will be visiting Castle Errand. Maybe we can get some info and I can pay my debt to Rump.

>>98164806
Real talk bro? This don't seem like the kind a debt you just pay off outright. And watch your ass Harpys- They basically social vultures.

>>98156620
>phantom Khamrii

I do not know this word.

Actual military hardware being moved over from Alberta. Something's coming.

>>98165758
Forgive me, its a derivation from an archaic word for Kemeht, or I guess as everyone calls it: Egypt. I'm talking about your alleged mummy.

>>98167528
It is possible, but I cannot imagine what the Sabbat would want with a mummy or some Egyptian trinkets.

>>98162839
And people call Nosferatus freaks? We're just cursed to be ugly/deformed, you guys actively try to LARP as demonic looking monsters or some posthuman scifi nonsense using vampire blood powers.

>>98168115
imply something about dark daddy smacking whichever antideluvian on his rear for being a naught child-eater and boom!
suddenly you got a dozen packs of bimbos, scrambling to earn their striipes
all struggling over that one braincell the bishop lent them

outside of weighing in on forum bant, i got news. gonna be paying a visit to somebody tonight. might have info.

or, if this little visit drags on, i might just ask you to come and break someone's knees.
we'll see how it goes.

>>98168490
let he who never thought about being a cool giant monster cast the first stone

and lets never say the fuckin b***i word

>>98168560
Well excuuuuse me for thinking poorly of people who actively WANT to look like freak on purpose. You're totally not the vampiric version of people with fetishes and body modification addiction and other weirdoes who wan to feel special, no sir. Being cursed by horrible vampire bullshit isn't good enough for you, you gotta go IMMA FLESH SCULPT MYSELF PENISES EYE STALKS!

Fucking weirdoes and tryhards. I would say "You all should have been Cleopatra'd" but that would imply I'd want you guys sharing a clan with me.

>>98168697
dust to dust sewer dregs to sewer dregs fledge. oh yea we got it bad- but at least we got what we got. tsimsces? its a whole different kind of shitfest. everything is plastic.

everything.

some people fit right in doing the pennywise schtick, if you give it long enough hell the ugly grin you got grows to fit. but the number of tsimsces that wont completely lose it over time? you can count on one hand.
hand that has a circumstantial number of fingers.

>>98168761
What can I say? To me it comes off as the vamp equivalent of weirdoes into self mutilation when there's a guy in the room whose face got burnt off by chemicals and a kid born without legs. Like fuck off man, you're just a LARPer with a fetish for being disfigured. Basically no better than the vamp equivalent to furries. It's all just a big fetish to me.

Funny cuz I thought being horny was a Toreador or Ravnos thing, but some weirdoes get undead chubbies from going "oooh man, I want to sculpt me some dinosaur heads for boobs" or something.

>>98168786
look
the guy with the eighteen nipple rings? fine. who gives a fuck
then there are the things we dont call people anymore. the things that push themselves beyond all reason and limits. the kind of shit that makes you realize the people who joke about dracula are lucky to be so god damn ignorant
this isnt just the surface level. this is the stuff under. mind and all.

so be grateful you got shoved in the ugly jar with me and not with them.

>>98168848
>the people who joke about dracula
Dracula's not real, right? I mean the Bram Stoker character not Vlad Tepes

>>98168894
some mask breaches are so fucking blatant they come back around to being a non issue.

>'oh is he some kind of... dracula?'
>cue laugh track
oh yea. real funny.

except old tepes is one of the reasons people burn eachother alive because someone whispered gehenna. basically let bram publish the biggest breach before the book of nod because he thought it was funny. and the camarilla despite a century of trying can't touch him. still a thorn in everyone's side over that way.

>>98168697
I don't want to look like a freak, but if Kyle Strathcona is going to show up to slap all our peepees I want to be at least half-assed prepared for said slappening. Every modification I've made is for the express purpose of combat. It's a ghetto zulo (warform) like Lucky Che called it.

Eugh, all this talk of Vicissitude! Revolting! A drunkard will sooner find enlightenment at the bottom of a bottle than a main clanner playing with his body.
>>98165630
Social vultures who keep track of Prestation, yes.

>>98165630
>>98165758
I find my domain vastly improved since I forbade my Harpies from being shameless gossip mongers and instead made them official enforcers of registered Prestation. Far too many people were trading favors unofficially anyway due to those shrieking harridans, now in Jacksonville you may choose to file a debt with a notary public and, should the one indebted attempt to welsh, you may seek aid from the harpies or punish the debtor yourself. Well, there are many finer points to it all but I doubt anyone here cares about specific points of order in a single domain.

>>98168560
I do hope your hunt will be successful.

>>98169123
Che is rotted in his brain parts from the various chemicals he injects in himself. WHICH WHILE VERY VERY VERY BAD- Does work. I would study it. If I was a degenerate potion seller, anyways. I am a SORCERER NOT AN ALCHEMIST NOT A WIZARD NOT A FUCKING WARLOCK.

Just wish he took a fucking bath now and again. Still has grunge on him he showed up with.

>>98169705
Oh yes my Koldunist Sibling, let us revel in the fact we currently converse with housefold objects and irritated fixtures of the land like FUCKING LUNATICS.

If there is an enlightenment out here it scares me. Does a great case for being a spiritual kermit the frog when the options are; Freak-among-Freaks with Kingship over fucking Quebec and 'Ah the Loupines are my nieces and nephews now.'

Do yourself a favour and do not fall into Tremerisms or I will treat you accordingly!

>>98169123
I mean it as a compliment brah!

LIke we gotta take what we can get. Most of us dont get to turn into big scarey werewolf forms.
Also I got the extra special 'presents' for whenever we need.

>>98169705
>playing with his body
Reminds me of one of the guys I know in the warren. Dude's a compulsive masturbator and everyone knows it, he keep hoarding old moldy porn mags. He's only relatively recently made a switch to internet porn as old habits die hard. We Kindred don't even feel things the way we used to as mortals but this guy is just jerking, tugging and pulling at it until the grey skin peels off. Not sure what pleasure he finds in it, I think its just he was addicted to it already while mortal and can't let go of the habit. Not sure it even creates an illusion of dopamine at this point but he's still going to tug at it all night long if he's not coming out to feed.

>>98142918
>What do you think of the Gehenna Prophecy?

The red star approaches

>>98172808
Bro. Didn't we like- Alreafy do the red star twice?
Or like
Three times now?

>>98172800
Can we positively identify him as a vampire? You may just have a really ugly dude down there.

Why is everyone in this city a weirdo?

So the official reason for the Harpy's visit was my debt to the Giovanni, the Gio "play the Prestation game better than certain clans in the Old Guard, but aren't part of the Sect so it must be registered properly", so saith our man. Thought it was a they/them but it's a he/him, think Mic would've liked the guy.

Harpy got transfixed by nearly everything, in no particular order:
>my Regnant Zoryana's dress
>Zoryana's designer sunshades (what are those for anyway?)
>our blood doll Swan holding Zoryana's oldest dress in front of the mirror, not even wearing it
>canopy frame over Zoryana's bed
>A few of the modern artworks inherited with the purchase of Castle Errand
>the non-artwork furniture and garbage next to the aforementioned artworks, mistaken for works of art by the Harpy
>the wooden stock of an AK
>a washing machine
>the case of my PC
The guy kept getting stuck into uselessness, but never by the same thing twice, until Errand Chancellor pointed out he "may be into design." It's like the spell broke and he could function again, nothing in the house would get him, no matter how pretty.
>>98168948
Um, Rump, the Harpy became... very compliant after we disenchanted him. Do you see anything of the following information that would let me pay back what I owe you for helping me with the Samedi?
>New Orleans Toreadors' actual role in the local Game of Thrones
>Threat assessment to Prince Calbullarshi's rule plus the one thing that could consolidate his rule
>The exact reason Calbullarshi and this Trems didn't do the world a favor and rid it of Spider Lily, Japanese Elder of the Giovanni
>Calbullarshi's greatest ally outside the Big Easy
Just DM me your pick and I'll tell you.

>>98174852
>Why is everyone in this city a weirdo?
You're a corpse. Corpses are not meant to be going on the Internet. Is it really that surprising that the ones that even walk around and talk are weird?

>Zoryana's designer sunshades (what are those for anyway?)
Betting five bucks they let her see things she shouldn't. Or maybe let her press a panic button and call for backup in the form of a werewolf. Are the shades particularly reflective?

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>>98174866
The most opaque I've ever seen.

>>98174901
Nevermind, she's just fucking weird then.

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The Winnipeg "Situation" (Part 8)

Fuck me.

> Last night a Cammie war party hit our city-side positions. Full military operation. Did some skirmish tactics on the Sabbat but we were the primary target.
> If I had to wager I'd say that wretch Pontius passed on the location of the near outposts he'd gleaned.
> Why?
> Who the FUCK ELSE WOULD THE IMBECILES in ALBERTA send but WEREWOLF HUNTERS!?
> Now I was not present for this raid but it got bad quick. They had full silver jacket rounds, flash-bangs, vehicles. Only two squads but they were all Cainites. Full blitzkrieg shit.
> This was 'Kill Team Caenis.' One of the attack dogs of the Prince on contract.

> It could have gotten real bad, however the Ductus was a stones throw away and crawled up their ass right as it went.
> They made the mistake of thinking she was also a Lupine and tried conventional methods.
> A mistake that proved fatal for at least two of the KTC.
> Another was allowing my dearest pack member to scamper up, unpin a dozen grenades on one's belt before flying off
> When others arrived, the Kill-Team made a fighting retreat.

> I wish I could be glib, but two of our Lupines are slain, along with one of our Cainites.
> The 'Red Talon' Laoch, the fledgling 'Malay' and the Nosferatu 'Weevil.'

> While this is bad, we have responded in kind and are now looking to deal with the Prince and the Bishop.
> So long as Prince Pilsudski remains alive she may, as is expected, continue throwing away Cainites into the meat grinder and continue purchasing reinforcements. When we end her unlife, the threat will be alleviated.
> With the Sabbat likewise looming it would be ideal if we can gut the monstrous cohort in charge.
> The one called 'Victoria' (AKA: ANNOYING VOYEURISTIC FREAK) produced some very interesting information.
> AND I HAVE DIBS ON THE LIFE OF PONTIUS' PET MAGICIAN HIS MAGIC BLOOD WILL WHET MY WHISTLE.

Further ventures may be spoken of. Because I fold like an omlette.
I miss omlette.

>>98175599
What about the "avoiding eye contact" thing, since they're dark wraparounds that cover all angles?

>>98176478
SHE DRESSES LIKE A CYBERPUNK NPC YOU SOFT TOOTHED TINY TIM WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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I thought the contemporary part of her wardrobe was from another subgenre of sci-fi.

>>98176545
Main Clan Tzimisce can play the aliens.

>>98174852
>do the world a favor and rid it of Spider Lily
What an unimaginably rude fledgling.

>>98176658
when you openly betray and torment your subordinates in an open forum? well
it says things about your character madam

out of curiosity what was SL's path/humanity rating if you have it?

>>98176703
Path of Bones 8

>>98174549
You say that as a joke, but we have a guy's ghoul who regularly dwell in the warrens as a well trusted retainer (he's probably going to be embraced sooner or later, I think its more a matter the guy hasn't found a good replacement ghoul) who was disfigured by a work accident and poor medical care afterward. He was already not a look before that and all that Nosferatu vitae and warren visits have made him quite stinky. Russel's a pretty ugly guy and the way the side of his face scrunch up and twist from the mangled flesh poorly stitched together makes him look lopsided.

Shit you're right, maybe its actually Russel the ghoul who is constantly stacking the old porn mags and downloading all the online porn and not the other Nossie as they are...well I wouldn't say buddies, Vampires have a hard time respecting Ghouls but there's a certain mutual thing going on there. Probably because of share mutual interest in titties.

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>>98156610
Oooh, OOOH! Has he done that thing yet where he uses his Presence to paralyze an entire group with fear before riding through them, grabbing one by the face, and riding off with the poor bastard? That's always fun to watch! Especially if he drains the shmuck while still in earshot of the rest!

>>98172800
>addicted

Not a real thing.

Okay look. The whole point of life is to propagate the species, right? Saying a person is addicted to orgams is like saying your addicted to breathing. Sure, you can find idiots who do stupid shit in the persuit of them, but you can find idiots who do stupid shit in the persuit of ANYTHING.

That whole "sex addiction" thing is bullshit made up by purple haired land whales with septum peircings angry that women like me exist, and simps trying to justify their own pathetic lack of self control.

For that matter, NO ONE us above a 6 or below a 4 by default. It takes just as much work to make yourself repulsive as it does to make yourself smokin hot. Weird ass haircuts, freaky dyejobs, a mobility scooter, that perpetually vapid yet somehow still self righteous expression...it's just as hard as keeping my abs visible. (Or...was. Until My looks froze)

Don't go getting your panties bunched Nossies. Tragic accidents and supernatural curses are extreme outliers, they don't count.

>>98174852
>known
>known (praise be the trems never learn csec)
>honestly i can take an educated
>probably in the hands of the locals
listen kid, i get having a big debt hanging over your head is scary
sos the idea of a sewer monster emerging from the local toilet to snatch one of your blood dolls to lick her knees
but honestly that aint goonna cut it
so
since your desperate, heres what i want
head on down tonight as soon as you can to the venezia gretna. little place south of the river. our guy will see you. he'll tell you the deets.
i just need you to shove one guy in a sack. i dont even wanna kill him. i just got some questions to ask.
do that and your debt is free. and your in good standing to ask for favours i'll peg in coin value up front

>>98176446
explains why they left cali in a rush
now, as someone who should theoretically align with your wannabe prince? gonna be honest shes as dumb as rocks
used to think the sabbat holding on in seattle and owning manitoba+saski was on them siring like vermin. might just be cascadia's camarilla are dogwater

>>98177592
huh. under port-au one of their ghouls is older than some kindred folks
started at like, age 6 or 7, only got weirder as she grew up
granted she gets her rocks off scaring wanna be hunters and grabbing gang members by the neck but same spirit

>>98177701
that shitd look better on me

>>98178098
Russel is just a ghoul with a lot of experience and he's been a very reliable servant to his Ancillae master. Pretty sure the guy was born at the start of the 1940s, the ghoul I mean. Apparently he and his master have just had a fairly good work relationship, or at least as good as a Ghoul can have. It probably help that, being a complete horndog aside (I would not be shocked if he banged at least one of the female nossie, the freak), Russel's been a bit of an enforcer who act as a bit of a 'ghoul overseer' for lack of a better term. He's got the age and status, again at least for a Ghoul and frankly we're a bit shocked he hasn't been Embraced already which again makes me think the sire just isn't ready to let go of his useful daytime tool or maybe it is partially because Russel has a family.

Don't think for a moment this guy is a 'nice' guy however. Russel may look ugly and be a bit too obsessed with sleazing and women but he's killed people for his master many, many times. He's also been allowed to discipline other ghouls, sometimes lethally. I know at least one ghoul (also of his sire) who fucked up badly and the sire had Russel break the guy's bones with a crowbar and that was just the start. Russel may be a hopelessly ugly porn obsessed with weirdo but he knows where the bodies are because he's buried them all. There's no denying that if he's ever embraced he'd be quite the 'muscle' for the Clan.

>>98178215
you dont have to tell me twice, theyre part of the family, they do family things
just so happens that means we gotta beat someone to death on occasion

>(I would not be shocked if he banged at least one of the female nossie, the freak)
yknow how they say our grandsire hates us because hes a narcicist cunt and we look how we look?
i dont believe that shit.

but i gotta tell you- the thought of the old bastard turning in his coffin every time someone does something unspeakable with a nos? warms my frozen heart

>>98178256
>just so happens that means we gotta beat someone to death on occasion
I'll admit I am still a tiny bit squeamish about killing, specifically the overly cruel killing via repeated beatings. Don't get me wrong there's people I would love to do these sort of things to but I am a bit fond of the ghouls desu. I'm not a fan of treating them like absolute shit and pawns, even if they are. Maybe, at least for me, its the 'young nosferatu adaptation time' thing as I do enjoy having a decently casual chat with the ghouls even if I know many deep down want to vomit looking at us, but those who get used to it make for decent ppl to have a completely casual chat and try to not think about the whole world of undeath politics and watnot. Plus the fact my sire and I rely on them so much for our black market shit mean we can't exactly go around being absolute tyrant to ghouls as we need them to make our operations work. They are essential workers, nay, arguably our 'employees' to a point as we do allow them to pick stuff for themselves out of the loot we get when they steal (or 'misplace') shit from delivery trucks. Yeah maybe I'm a bleeding heart by vamp standards but fuck it. A ghoul that doesn't hate me is a useful ghoul and he's not going to stake me if he likes doing work with us.

>>98178098
>head on down tonight as soon as you can to the venezia gretna. little place south of the river. our guy will see you. he'll tell you the deets.
>i just need you to shove one guy in a sack. i dont even wanna kill him. i just got some questions to ask.
>do that and your debt is free. and your in good standing to ask for favours i'll peg in coin value up front
I'll get to it.

Btw I hope Shrinkles isn't coming off as 'too nice' or too much of a nice guy friendly vampire, he's a character that sort of emerged from me interacting with the thread for shits and giggles, realizing playing a naive young vamp was a good way to ease in. The idea is that he's still clinging to humanity and trying to see the positive side of vamp existence while blatantly downplaying how shitty everyone can be as a coping mechanism.

>>98178458
good boy

>>98178357
hey we all start like that. anyone who says otherwise is a liar or worse.
and its good to have people who aint completely unattached to avoid doing afformentioned grandsire cunt things. cause being full of hard boys makes you stupid.
just remember. carrot and stick. one for all, all for one, or we break your knees. standard stuff frati.

and nah, your doing just fine i can see what your going with. we gotta have a good spread of 'human or human attempting and freak/monster' in thread or things get stale. helps play up everything in the spectrum.

>>98178585
>carrot and stick
I've met too many older Kindred who seem to think its all stick all night for their ghouls. I've only just started managing my own ghouls with the sire's approval to maintain our network.

Thanks, I'm trying to hint at a bit more edge and monstrosity underneath it all but its all deeply in denial. That and the character is definitely trying to act as unthreatening as possible because he doesn't want to get into fights or feel like a threat to other vamps as way to avoid conflict.

>>98178585
I get it. I'm moodier now than I ever was when I was still human. (And that's saying something; I might be American but genetically I'm an Irish Ginger) I haven't hunger frenzied since my first, but I still have my outbursts.

...fuck. Thinking about it just makes me some wierd combination of sad and pissed off. I need to go work off some steam.

>>98170692
Kindly leave our allies be. And don't take your allowance on the Magi as an absolute, that thing is exceedingly dangerous.
But as far as I'm concerned it just renders unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

>>98178634
>>98177701
We are what we make of ourselves, co-ogha.

And as for the Horseman? Pretty sure they weren't present for the bombing, though he dealt a blow. Tracking him hasn't been on the top of my priorities.

Even if at this point Pontius and the Prince are doing their best to sell me on Templars and Strathcona showing up.

>>98178477
Personally I don't see any issues. Always nice to see someone out of fledgling and sort of comfortable in their second life.

>>98178925
The reason he's self mockingly called the 'insecure Nosferatu' came from the early posts where he was struggling with the curse but this insecurity extend to other topics: fear of dealing with wider vamp society, fear of dealing with the rest of the WOD he's only just getting exposed to. His naivety about topics is also handy as a mean to have people expose on what their characters know/believe of the wider WOD[/spoiler

>>98173422
At least one may have been a shared hallucination made real by magic.

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>>98176446
>The Winnipeg "Situation"
You still have that flesh shaper problem out there?

It was a feint, but not of the sort I predicted. The Sabbat took Puerto Rico.

Some of you may be surprised to know the Camarilla had it's hooks dug in. My secretary dug up some history, which I will now recount to you.

It was actually the Nagaraja who had the strongest claim to Puerto Rico, and the Giovani sought out Camarilla aid to dislodge their rivals. In exchange, the Giovani ceded most of the territory to us, with a few exceptions that would remain Giovani territory.

But with the recent assault on south Florida, our eyes were fixed on mainland USA and the gaps in our defences. It never crossed our minds the goal was to ensure any reinforcements would arrive far too late.

I am begining to fear the Camarilla put too much faith in it's predominance of Elders, and has "kicked the can" for so long the Sabbat now has beings old enough to usher in a new era in this conflict.

>>98178357
>I'll admit I am still a tiny bit squeamish about killing, specifically the overly cruel killing via repeated beatings
No better way to remind yourself that you're alive than feeling the impact of your fist against somebody's face, hearing the sickening crunch of cartilage and bone, the burn of your skin getting torn up from the strike, tasting the bullshit mental placebo equivalent of adrenaline in your blood. If that helps, you'll get into it eventually.

>A ghoul that doesn't hate me is a useful ghoul and he's not going to stake me if he likes doing work with us.
Unless he's the unwell sort that end up tying up their owner and using them as a blood tap. You'd be the safest that way, sewer rat, he's doing it for your own good. That's how he'll explain it to himself, anyways. And he'll believe it, too.

>>98178477 He's pretty good, enjoyable to read. Plus 'hey I am five minutes old and a vamp baby blease help' is a thread activity classic, in theory nearly anybody could have something to say there.

>>98178098
>i just need you to shove one guy in a sack. i dont even wanna kill him. i just got some questions to ask.
I sent Andrei to pick our superhero Errand Knight at 2 am. Lyuba looked at him, then the car seat, then me, she became as pale as me and said: "I not cleaning that." I had to feed her off my external jugular to get her to say: "OK I cleaning that."

For the longest time I thought our fledgling failed the mission, Andrei dragged what's left of him to bed, and Wren rushed in and diagnosed a fractured left condylar process of the mandible with a single glance. I wanted to know how she did it since Kindred don't get swollen, she just said he struggled to speak. Clever little blood doll.

So, my foolish thrall did get your man in the sack as requested, but he paid the price of being an impatient little misbehaver who only watches MMA highlights and memorizes the name of every single submissions move, but pays no attention to the actual science of grappling that happens before the end of the fight.

Timing the takedown attempts so you don't get your face smashed. Immobilizing the opponent to minimize and prevent further abuse. The struggle for a favourable position. Setting up the final trap.

All of this and more goes completely over the head of this generation that has no discipline to learn the martial arts. No, Errand Knight wanted to learn how to do reverse armbars like Chris Lytle and Frank Mir first. Andrei just laughed at the whole thing.

Oh how do I envy Spider Lily for having a ghoul like Lianhua, she would have made such a fantastic teacher - save for her habit of calling me 'Noodle Thighs.'

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"autarkis" mother fucker is hiding out in mobile
incumplidor sire
que te cojan mila cabras

>>98180050
and fancy that, i just got a lead on a local who just so happened to be coordinating things for the sabbat across the gulf. isnt that something? you know something else just crazy?

im outside his den.

that other news though- fegh. camarilla was always on the back foot outside the dens down in the islands. doesnt take much for sabbat or nags or even just pissed off mortals to wipe out any group of kindred on one island. but easy come, easy go, gio might just retake the island for themselves the moment the war packs move off. just to keep the samedi from getting their hooks in. to hell with it. let them keep it.

>>98180563
first that kiddo went and let me get my business done hours early. if id gone at it as planned? i might not be ready to jump the bastard now
second, his brain might be smooth but getting bum-rushed by a demi-caitiff and half pile-driven off a fire-escape negates a lot of resistance

consider the debt repaid, and you get a freebie on an intel request

feel free to make more requests, even if i'll usually be less 'quick' with returns on favours. consider that me takin pity on your thrall-boy.

>>98181469
>consider the debt repaid, and you get a freebie on an intel request
>feel free to make more requests, even if i'll usually be less 'quick' with returns on favours. consider that me takin pity on your thrall-boy.
Hmmm... For the time being we'll hold onto that freebie intel, lest the Giovanni ask something difficult out of the boy and he needs the help.

>>98180378
>No better way to remind yourself that you're alive than feeling the impact of your fist against somebody's face, hearing the sickening crunch of cartilage and bone
Dude I'm not a Brujah. I may be a sewer dwelling monsters and a creepy boogeyman with a scrotum-like face but I'm not a fucking hooligan brute. Leave the wanton violence to the rabble and shovelhead. Power isn't something you constantly swing around like your wrinkly undead dick as you thump your chest. The threat and implication of violence is good enough.

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Is this some kind of loup ritual, koldun ritual, or is mother nature just fucking us raw and hard with extra lube?

>>98184090
It's really not sometimes. I guess it's easy enough to fall into that thinking as anyone else but at the end of the day, power and those who wield it are sovereign. Those who whinge about the implications of it are not.

So I'm in Juarez, I wake up the next day. Woman is still there, vehicle is still there surprisingly. She might be an honest hooker with a heart of gold I'm sure. I head out, I know they are looking for me and it doesn't take too long for crow to find me, it's not even midnight. Then the hunt begins.

There's three, pushing me, coraling me. But I keep my cool. I keep walking and eventually I find a receiving lot I like well enough. Fairly open, but out of sight. The back parking lot of some warehouse. Crow and his two friends, pact mates I guess, Another gangrel with sideburns and ears and eyes that mark him as another Gangrel and some ignorant lick in a leather jacket and shades, which I presume is a Brujah and I turn out to be right.

The three of the them corner me, and for a long minute I wonder if they are going to try to talk it out before apparently the pact leader, rolls in. He's in the back seat of a, I shit you not, a caprice convertable. All done in Purple with gold flake , and he was Radiant. It's been a long time since I seen such flagrant use of awe. He shoots me a dirty look which doesn't do much to me as Wolvie and Brujah strike. Fist fighters, strong, no doubt doped to the hilt on bloodbags and funtimes. Wolvies fists bounce off easily enough not for lack of trying, but so does the Brujahs. Even juicing Potence, he doesn't quite break my hide. He seems stunned almost, before I cut up open, almost navel to sternum with my Kabar. I want one of them alive, but I'm not convinced either of the fist fighters are worth the effort.

Oddly enough getting a Kabar thru the guts is a great awakener of beasts, I thought I had him dead to rights as he surged forward. Fighting me like a dog, guts hanging , steaming in the air.

>>98185348
We fight. What can I say. Wolvie was wailing on my back, Crow was his best to peck out my eyes and me and that Brujah fought. He managed to sink his claws into me and he was. Well he wasn't tearing me apart but he cracked my hide. It's still cracked, from about my collar bone down my ribcage. I guess it would be a flail lung if I still breathed. But my knife found its home and well like I said. These licks ain't old. He slid down into a pile of shit and something foul. I doubt it's been more then a month or two since he was sired. Fucking waste.

>remember that Pact Leader I told you about?
I didn't. I just hear ClickBoom and suddenly I'm a dozen feet that way and now I am bleeding. Chunks blown out of the Sandstone of my back, I can feel the vitae dripping, trying ot knit it back together. Good Deception on the pack leader, I didn't even notice him after he dropped the awe. Sloppy on my part. But I wasn't dead.I was back on my feet as he started reloading, and he musta felt something. His hands were shaking so bad. I was back at him as he finished reloading and it was easy enough to take him. Wolvie knew he had to finish this fight. He tried, Like the Brujah, barely even sired. He ate a 12 gauge slug and like his friend exploded into Ichor.

So now I have a pact leader of my very own, a new ride too I guess but it's not like I can enjoy it. He tired to run but I've had some practice running down celerity users you might say. My little bird is clipped and he's going to talk. It's been a bit and our friend doesn't have much blood left. He's no fledge but I needed the top up. Apparently some gangrel mook by the name of Jalan runs things ths side of the boarder? Works with Chavez in El Paso, which is to say they stay on each respective side of the boarder. I guess he's kind of a big deal in the Sabbat, Bishop or some shit. Not sure I'll be able to lure him out as easily as this lot.
>and Crow got away too

>>98184090
>Leave the wanton violence to the rabble and shovelhead
You leave it to them, and they'll beat you to death for the fun of it, sewer rat. You can't bluff and run and hide forever, eventually you'll have to start making people into pulp before they do it to you.

>Power isn't something you constantly swing around like your wrinkly undead dick as you thump your chest
Oh come on. Your clan's whole thing is constant power trips off of that you know something the other party doesn't. You swinging a different, uglier dick around in a less kinetic way doesn't make it less of a dick-swinging.

>The threat and implication of violence is good enough.
A threat that isn't possibly acted upon isn't ever worth anything, especially if you outright don't have it in you to act upon it. Eventually you'll get tested, and then you'll be dead meat.

>>98185069
Gods light does not shine on this side of Canada.
Not that I could answer anything else because the Lupines and the Ductus enjoy PAINFUL VAGERIES.
Which I understand. I just- Want to scream. Not as much as the Sabbat pawns being ambushed in a monsoon. But still.

>>98179598
At this point the flesh shapers are the best option to win

>>98184090
But you ARE a Nosferatu, masters of ambush. A sucker punch backed by every ounce of your vampiric strength coming out what seems to be nowhere is an excelent way to end a fight before it starts.

I am afraid Tats has a point; you should be prepared for what you will do if someone proves unwilling to resolve things in a peaceful manner.

>>98190026
>A sucker punch backed by every ounce of your vampiric strength coming out what seems to be nowhere is an excelent way to end a fight before it starts.
Nothing quite like watching the Ductus' head go flying while investigating an "empty warren."

>>98190194
>FweeeEEEET!

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century and a half of wondering about this and i finally got the bastard cornered
pathetic piece of shit to the end

>>98190026
you got a shitonnage of intelligence coming your way princeling, mostly in letters and radio code but i dont think youll be picky
fifth column black handed man eating double deal dick sucking neck slitting mother fuckers

>>98191958
You okay over there? Would you like the number for my anger management course?

>>98187738
>Gods light does not shine on this side of Canada.
To be fair it IS Canada. I don't think God wants anything to do with it.

>>98192827
shieeeeet why not? better than going back to the island to immediately crash into a decade-long sleep and miss somethin important.

>>98193037
It wasn't the funny man with the beard who gave his blessings for this venture. Getting ahead of myself thougj.

Death rite finished for your estranged cousin Nossies.

Time to go hunting.

Man, maybe its just the fact my embrace wasn't that long ago but I awoke from my daylight slumber with a craving for hot dogs knowing full well that I can't eat them and that this was just some leftover illusion of my memories+senses. Fucks with my head because my memories make me miss shit I used to eat or do but it won't work and it won't give me any pleasure doing it now. Shit like this makes me wanna go drink up a fat guy full of cholesterol to even come close to satisfying phantom junk food cravings.

Makes me want to gorge up myself to forget about mortal food.

>>98194612
I feel you, there. I STILL catch myself trying to hold my breath when I get spooked by shit, lol.

>>98194693
I know it seems silly, almost comical Malkavian nonsense. "Haha, the vampire wants hot dogs" but then it hits you like a truck. You'll never eat a hot dog again. Well you CAN but it won't taste good and you will vomit it out. Same for a lot of things it just crash and sink in how much different you've become and how you will never enjoy certain pleasures again.

>>98194612
>>98194808
It's probably because it's mid-June, Barbaque season. Or GRILLING season before the redneck licks get a bug up their blood.
>>98194481
Please tell me it was just some friendly Koldunism between sects. Tell me it's not the Bird. Lie to me.

Sometimes the whole 'accursed undead' shit really hook itself into you, must be the Kindred equivalent to death anxiety in its own way. Makes me want to lash out, break shit and feed to make the undead existential dread stop. I mean, is this even immortality really since we can 'die'? Is this even worth it to continue existing in this arrested undead state?

Our Knight is walking again and keeps improving.
>>98194612
We may not eat again but we still have a sense of smell. The banana bread the herd baked gave the kitchen a wonderful scent. Then they deep fried it, I did not like that part, my mortal self would have shivered at the amount of calories involved with all the caramel and the ice cream on top, but they assured me of its exquisite, decadent taste.
>>98194930
Let's say we become mortals again, would the question: "What is the reason you continue to exist?" finally find its definitive answer? No. We'd just be ignorant, fragile mortals, still searching for meaning, and with fewer resources, just as we were back then.
Our Clans may have very little in common, but we do know how to talk to beasts, with and without a capital B, and the Beast is clearly lying to you, in short it's business as usual.

>>98142918
Guyse, what would happen to a Malocusian who bonded with a private waiting room in Penn Station in the 20's, went into torpor underground through WWII and woke up to the Madison Square Garden built in it's place?

>>98194912
No. Also no. And sorry I will be earnest. No matter how much of a nightmare that ends up.

Brought down some freaks. Pontius is searching for an option. Prince is focused on survival. She came to war first and now seeks to win.

Time to kill.

>>98194912
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>BUHBUHMMM**I SEE YOU COVERED IN SCARLET MAOMAO NO ONE LIKES A LOAFER
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>OH DON'TCHA KNOW
>ABOUT THE BIRD
>WELL EVERYBODY KNOWS
**THE BIRD IS THE WORD**

https://youtu.be/Q6qlGhONoXg

First the good news: one of Chancellor's ghouls delivered the late Boy Toy's letter to one Blue Fairy, Scourge of NYC, and is coming back with a letter of hers for me. Yay! I didn't die at the hands of the Kindred equivalent of a super racist cop!

So, the bad news: not even finished recovering, Sal of the Gio restaurant forwards me an email from Spider Lily, and the lady wants to collect my debt.

Turns out my job's not an assassination.

No, now that Lianhua, her Chinese ex-ghoul is her childe, the Boomer Supreme wants me to teach her the basics of a discipline. Couldn't she teach her girl to make zombies dance the Thriller instead?

For every discipline after the first I teach Lianhua, I can get a comparable Prestation. Why why why me of all Kindred in New Orleans?

Hold up I remember that invisible thing's words: "The Clan of Death is always in demand for somebody with your skills, assassin." I thought they wanted me to use my skills, not literally buying them out of me.

Man.

This is what's like being an Elder's plaything? Am I stuck with the Giovanni forever? I mean they're like super numerous in this godforsaken city, it was probably gonna happen anyway, but still!

God almighty did Spider Lily set me up. Tabarin was right, I am a darned idiot.

>>98197597
>Tabarin was right,
It's okay Fledge, Being young and stupid is a hard way to go thru life but it is a way to go. If you wanted to take over my bungalo in Arlington you could but I don't princess or their wierdos in there.

I was going to torture that little faggot but he spilled what he knew which wasn't a lot. While he was a pact leader turns out he was the king of the corner pushers. Jalan appears to be a real deal badass in the Sabbat, Maybe Stripper can confirm. Sin that his territory is being overrun by some other clique as he chases big game in the jungles or some shit.

That Clique is putting everyone on edge, including lots of the fairly senior Gangrel in town, as the boss is away but no one wants to try to move on them. Sabbat is prone to factionalism (even more then us, believe it or not) and now there is a power grab. The Southern Sabbat attacks, were apparently the work of the splinter. Not sure who the splinter's mastermind is, but I would wager more splinters in Florida, in California and maybe even Canada. So far the only one's I kinda trust not being behind it is Jalan because otherwise I would have been hit with an actual shovelhead pride parade. Well nor his Childer, and There's some spooky dragons in the background.
>Somedays I remember that word, that is favoured by soldiers of every age and country. how do you say it in english?
Fuck

>>98198018
Jalan, Jalan...

OH!

Yeah, I heard of him. He was a genius of a vampire...when he was younger. Think of it this way: A five year old reading at a third grade level is impressive, a 15 year old reading at a third grade level is just sad.

Or maybe the "big game" he's hunting is a torpid old South American Vampire that tricked a bunch of primitive tribe he was an Aztec blood god. Or was it a God of fitness?

Maybe my memory would be.more clear if you weren't a sadistic, misogynistic asshole wearing the shiniest Ring of Gyges I've ever seen made even worse by the cloak of absurd self righteousness you drape yourself in to justify the fact that torturing the weak is the only way to make your pee pee hard.

>>98198334
>torturing the weak is the only way to make your pee pee hard.
C'mon, Stripper. You're acting like Games of Instinct aren't a thing practiced by 99% of Sabbat packs.

>>98198521
And you're acting like a game is still a game if there isn't a real God Damn challenge!

Bunch of useless ass pussy ass bitches thinking they're worthy of being called the Sword of fuck mothering Cain...

aM hUngry fcukthis life hungry thirsty fuck

>>98198334
>misogynistic
Sister, you're a Sabbat whore. You gave up the high ground, a long long time ago. It's amazing how ingrained this sort of kine psychology is.are there vampire women? Are there leopard women? Do I think less of a Leopard if it's a Leopardess instead of Leopard? I think poorly of you because you're Sabbat. I might give a Sabbat fledgling a bit of leeway if they survive the first 10 mins or something. But a Sabbat Priest? Yeah, East is that way.

Did you really cry about this Antitribu (A goddamn TOREADOR, turns out?) Did you want him? I'll let you save one Sabbat life, and all you have to do is say
>Yes, Please.
Limited time offer, The shipping might be easier after dawn, but the smell. I'm sure you understand.

>>98198619
Stop that right now. Are you really just going to lie down and surrender? Life is hard, it has ALWAYS been hard, and if you give up now than everyone and everything who has wronged you wins. Is that what you want?! To prove your detractors are right about you?

>>98198642
>Do I think less of a Leopard if it's a Leopardess instead of Leopard? I think poorly of you because you're Sabbat.
It's really hard to take you at face value when Stripper is the only Sabbat poster you beef with. Not to mention you keep using the word "whore" in reference to her former work, rather than Stripper. Even an old fart like you surely knows the difference between a prostitute and a cabaret dancer. So yeah, I'd say you're pretty obviously a misogynist.

>>98198730
To be fair, there are like; two of us. And he's not as fun to argue with as Blue or whatshisname. Spots? Strips? Suit?

>>98198808
Vampire shit. His name is Vampire shit. Because that's all he is now. And yeah, most of the time our esteemed "Archon" is just tugging his pud, but yelling at shitbags on the interwebs gives me an outlet for my anger so it doesn't slip out and less opportune times. Funny that he thinks I'm mad he's bullying a Sabbat Fledgeling instead of mad that he's a hypocritical douche canoe.

>>98198694
Not sure what to call what we experience that is close to stress or distress but the lack physical sensations and inability to fullfill illusions of mortal cravings made me shut the door to my little warren hole because I just couldn't control it. I got hungry but hunger was an illusion so I got thirsty. Too thirsty. Pretty sure I just drank another hobo dry in a very quick need to feed. Came pretty close to frenzy just from being stuck in a mental loop didn't know we could come close to it just from our minds experiencing a moment of fragility.

Got to hungry I started chewing on the dead hobo's toes and fingers even if all I needed was that sweet, sweet vitae. Vitae didn't even feel that good desu, just like filling me up as I 'needed' something to fill the hole.

>>98198730
I'm not sure if you've dealt with Cabaret Dancers, Strippers, Once you put a price on the flash of ankle, it's only a matter of cost for the whole leg.

>>98198861
Tugging my Pud, that's new for me. I like it. I have it on very good authority that hypocrisy is the smallest sin. Perhaps if you explain the hypocrisy to me I'll understand it better. So I went to Juarez, because of reports of things happening. I boldly went into enemy territory where I am still struggling to understand what's happening. I called you some names, because you called yourself those names. I'm just not seeing it I guess. But you can still save the life of a sabbat fledgling. Just think the next grand generation of Shovelheads and Methuselah meet and greeters could be yours for a few words on a keyboard. I don't expect much from you for the cammies of course but I extended an offer that your kind sneers at all the time.

Here I'll even start.
>Sabbat Priest Stripper, Yes, Please and Kindly let go of the next Camarilla Fledges that inevitably come before you. God knows those little inbred and flesh off the slab licks need all the help they can get.
>and Enrico
>Yeah that Torry's name is Enrico btw
>Enrico very badly wants to live
>He told me that I've opened his eyes to the fragility of his existance and wants a second try
>and you can save Enrico
>for the low low price
>of a Yes, and a Please.
But we know you won't. Because the first and foremost thing the Sabbat are, are posers. They would never demean themselves even if its saved a life, even if it saved a brother in their glorious crusade. Because, at the end of the Day, the Sabbat are a selfish selfish lot. We know this. Because if they could contribute to the common good, they would be Camarilla.

>>98199119
Why do you need to lose this guy so bad?

>>98199119
Nah. I ain't playing this game. You can pretend you're a dyslexic retard who couldn't pour water out of a cup if the instructions were written on the bottom all you want but everyone knows damn well everything you tut tut the Sabbat for supposedly doing you gleefuly admit to doing yourself.

Nice job slandering every woman who ever engaged in Exotic Dance, you piebald pig. I'm sure that'll go over well.

>>98199135
I don't really need to. I guess Juarez got me down. Here you have a place that if it wasn't straddled by a boarder and run by clowns would be one of the 10 biggest cities in the Americas. Think another Houston. But instead it's all depression sandblasted, everytthing a two floor hovel. Even the Giovanni (who know something about two floor hovels) want nothing to do with it. Just imagine what a bit of good governance could do. Same with Enrico
>If only someone had explained he would end up staked to the top of one of these hovels because he couldn't keep his 'pud' in his pants persay. Had to go be a big scary vampire, start a gang or some shit. If only someone had him understand that those traditions are there to protect him as much as anyone, more than most. He would be in the Good OI' USA, drinking Blood taking it easy.
Instead we're going to check if he leaves a stain once the sun comes up and I'm going to try to track down these splinter factions without engaging in too much against my own clan. Such is unlife I guess.

>>98199218
>I don't really need to
And now that you've gotten your requisite Cammy wall of bullshit out of your system:
Why do you need to lose this guy so badly? Do not try to give me this "I feel bad bout da small fry!" Routine. If it was remotely true, you'd blood bond him. Or drop him with some Anarchs. Or trade him for the cheapest coin in the Jyhad: Information.
Instead, you're poking at Strip trying to get her to ask Please don't kill an enemy prisoner.
It doesn't follow, especially not for a lick in your position. You need to lose this kid, but can't take the usual channels.
Why?

You all do an excellent explanation of why the Sects are absolutely BENT OVER BACKWARDS folks. Stunning! No Really! Establishing the "Utopia" (its just a functioning fucking MUNICIPALITY) almost seems sane compared to this five hundred year old rigmarole.

>>98199768
Bitty baby Warlocks who barely know how to vampire should not be weighing in sectarian conflicts like they have any real experience in the subject.

>>98200244
Seconded.

>>98199768
Dude, flabby tabby is on sight with me because of who he is, not which sect he belongs to. If I had a packmate act like him, Vaulderie or no, his ass would be kindling for our next Fire Dance.

I'm here to do one thing and one thing only, and that's kill Antediluvians. I don't give a flying fuck if any given vampire dosen't belive in them or dosen't care about the fight. I DO have a problem with shitty vampires claiming to be Sabbat as an excuse to just be assholes, so those cunywaffles need to be purged.

I feel bad for the vampire sheilds the Antis set up with their mind bending blood bonding bullshit, but I'm not gonna stay my hand if those poor bastards get in my way, that's all there is too it.

>>98200396
>>98200244
OH FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING SO ENTRENCHED THAT I FIND THE CONSTANT CIRCLE JERK INVIGORATING

I SHALL ENDEAVOUR TO SPEND TEN CENTURIES DEVOURING SET'S CHILDREN AND LAMENTING OVER [BEING AN INSUFFERABLE DICKHEAD WHO HATES HIS ELDERS EXCEPT DARK GRAND PAPA / BEING AN INSUFFERABLE STOOGE WHO FELICITATES HIS MORE IMMEDIATE ELDERS AND PRETENDS NOTHING HAPPENED IN 1930-1946, 1820-1841, AND ANYTHING PRE 500BCE] AND THEN I SHALL CALL YOU ALL VERY SMART AND INTELLIGENT BEINGS OF INCALCULABLE WORTH, AND THE SACRIFICES MADE OVER WHO WILL GET TO BE THE BIGGER SPOON DURING THE APOCALYPSE.

OH WAIT WE ARE JUST BACK AT THE FUCKING PYRAMID SCHEME YOU
FUCKING
MUPPETS, LOOK HERE AT THE FRENCH FROG AND THE AMERICAN PIG THEYRE GONNA FUCK EVEN THOUGH IT REQUIRES EXCESSIVE BLOOD FLOW AND OVERT GNIBBLING ON ONE ANOTHERS GENITALIA

FUCK MY FUCKING UNLIFE THIS SUCKS

>>98199119
>common good
>Camarilla
If the mafia pyramid scheme is the common good then I'm glad I live in the woods with the Gangrels and loups. Fucking Anarchs are closer to the common good than you are man.

>>98200780
>Fucking Anarchs are closer to the common good than you are man.
I've met some of the local anarchs but I really don't vibe with a lot of them because they can be a bit too tryhard and BRO WE'RE PUNKS BRO REVOLUTION and the usual Brujah-heavy screaming and arguing of dumb politics. I don't need the bloodsucker version of college politics.

>>98200678
Please do us all a favor and stop larping as "ze enlightened centrist vampire." Your experience is so limited and narrow that your opinion carries zero weight.

>>98200899
Oh I know, they're insufferable. "fascist" this and "bootlicker" that, maybe toss in an unironic "wake up sheeple!"

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Right, should do the reading now. The stars are moving weird and the soil isn't happy.
>No scruples or pebbles. YOU GET NOTHING YOU HEAR YOU LOSE MOTHER FUCKER.
>Some of you are alright, don't come to the pack safe-house tomorrow.
>Trouble in Rockingham County soon and for the foreseeable future. Stay frosty.
>Password Pulled 19725318
>WHYDIDYOUDOTHATPLEASENONONONOIMSORRYIMSORRYILLFIXITILLFIXIT
>The splats are no longer optional. I am now threatening you.
>When you see that empty stroller, assume the worst.

>>98196500
You're lucky I'm gonna be feeling this shit into next decade or I'd get irritated.

>>98197597
You aren't stuck with anything forever. You're gonna die some day! :) Sadly you're also gonna be an idiot forever, but also the good kind.

Just give them enough rope to hang them brother. They'll do the rest.

>>98198619
Treat your thirst like a big bug that lives in your chest. You can't really get rid of it. But you can whip it.
You can also enter a religious agreement with it and get really weird.
For some reason both have the same end result.
Kind of weird, eh?

>>98200780
We love you too Fear.

>>98200939
Sometimes, it requires an idiot to tell the group of emperors they wear no clothes.

>>98201012
Sometimes the idiot is just an idiot. Most times, in fact.

>>98201009
Look I get it, elders are out of touch assholes what else is new from mortal life? I swear these fuckers go into near frenzy if you tell them to NOT start a riot because it isn't constructive or going to achieve anything and, again, so much Brujahs acting like they always know better than everyone because apparently being angrier=more right. I've met their type aplenty in the 2000s and 2010s when human and a lot of them would gladly take that Prince throne and be just as much of an asshole if they could. Again, some shit from human politics which is to take valid anger and criticism of a flawed system and turning it into just a new, differently flavored rat race and power struggle to the top full of backstabbing and compromises but "its okay when my side do it".

Fuck we never changed from humans in that regard.

>>98201080
Heirarchy is inevitable unless you're some Autarkis out in bum-fuck-nowhere. The question is: do you prefer your heirarchy to be a gerontocracy or a meritocracy?

>>98201012
Wait you girls are anarchs? I thought you were autarkis. Get the fuck off my lawn. (just joking)

>>98201181
Nah man, she's referencing
>I'm glad I live in the woods with the Gangrels and loups.
Not claiming affiliation with the Anarch Movement.

>>98201064
I know if I'm naked. I can ask people if I smell. I know when my one eye starts doing... Stuff.

Can you say the same?

>>98201181
>>98201206
I kind of like them. Weird hairy forest people I mean.

Even with all the weird shit that hits me and makes me act unwise. I guess.

>>98201213
You CAN ask and you DONT
YOU ALSO LACK A SENSE OF SHAME YOU DONT APPLY YOU JAIN FREAK

>>98200678
Holy Shit, Dude, calm your tits. I'M the rageaholic Brujah here, not you, but you sound like I just crashed the family dinner, pegged your father, embraced your mother, ghouled your sister, and forced you to watch.
You on edge about something? Need an Enya CD or two? Maybe some of those Chinese worry balls?

>>98201012
It's one thing to point out real flaws like that vaginal blood fart Pontius; something else entirely to believe a bald faced lie is the God's honest truth. I was only correcting the kids misconceptions, not beefing with him.

>>98201370
YOU ARE CONTENTIOUS AND UNCOUTH BECAUSE OF THE INFLUENCE OF YOUR FOREFATHER
I AM CONTENTIOUS UNCOUTH AND FUUUUUUUCKING LIVID BECAUSE MUCH MORE RECENT EVENTS.

CLANS
ARE
FUCKING
HORSE
SHIT

BUT I GOT THE WORST OF THE FUCKING LOT AND ALL THE EXPECTATIONS WITHIN, AND I HAVE ONLY BEEN BAILED OUT BY A LUNATIC IN TEXAS AND A LUNATIC IN MY IMMEDIATE VICINITY, AND EVEN THEN I HAVE THINGS I NEED TO DO.

Lianhua finally returned from China. Alone.

Dressed like a politician, that is, a Westerner, she came to Castle Errand and received the famous Old Clan Tzimisce hospitality. As per tradition, this includes feeding too. Zoryana explicitly ordered us to never leave her alone with any of the blood dolls, and to have her drink only from glasses or cups so that the Giovanni fledgling never bites anyone directly. For the time being me or Zoryana bite, collect the blood and close the wound.

When we came to know Spider Lily is still in East Asia, looking for worthy childer, Errand Chancellor dragged Lianhua into a lengthy conversation with the objective to get her to reflect on these points:
>she wasn't allowed to marry into the mortal "main" bloodline Spider Lily cultivated across the centuries;
>she was forbidden from bearing children by being ghouled, effectively excluding her from the gene pool;
>she didn't start to learn necromancy right away from a master like Spider Lily, but was assigned another clan's fledgling to teach her other disciplines;
>she must be a second if not third class citizen in her own clan.

This enraged the girl who demanded to know Chancellor's point, and he told her: "We're all estranged childer without the support from our clans that we hoped we'd get. When we don't have the parents we think we deserve, we have to become our own parents. We have to join forces and make the memories and the family we want. And if you know of a faster way to persuade your sire that you are worthy of learning the necromantic arts, than completing your assignment by becoming a quasi-official part of our coterie, let us hear it."

She fell silent. The old man continued: "You are already one of us, Lianhua, so please, lend us your strength. We should nickname her, Errand, uh, Errand..."

I interjected: "Your classes begin tomorrow, Errand Xia." She scoffed.

Zoryana and Chancellor agree that she must respect me as a teacher before she learns a single thing from me.

>>98201730
Awww, yer first subordinate..

>>98201206
Oh. I fail to connect the simplest of dots sometimes. Hopefully this gets better with age.

>>98202029
If it does it's going to take over two and a half centuries. There is a reason I have secretary, and always have an exit strategy.

>>98202606
Great, I'm probably going to be a retard for a very long time then. Potentially forever. Woe unto us, those cursed by God via Caine.

>>98201155
Look I will not pretend to be a smart guy, never quite was as a huma and I've got too much catching up to do with Kindred politics but to it feels a bit silly to try to aim for utopia when it is an objective fact of Kindred quote-unquote 'biology' that we trend toward being weaker every new generation and that in turn Elders also have the advantage of age when it come to skills and refinement of vampire bullshit as I love to call Disciplines. This was something my sire was pretty quick to drill into me: unlife ain't more fair than life. Now do I think maybe we should try to tone down some of the vampire douchery and adapt our politics to changing times? Sure.

My issue is a lot of Anarchs, for all their talks about 'evil out of touch elders' (which can be true) are themselves increasingly out of touch and/or in my opinion imprinting bad, dated ideas into their own Childe or any naive vamp they recruit to their side. Don't know what form a 'better' vamp society would take but I'm not going to take morality lessons from assholes old enough to have lived the Civil War or even just assholes who were around for Woodstock. For a bunch of 'times are a changing' guys I've sure met a lot of Anarch who seem stuck in the past century or two. Pick any decade, really.

>>98203281
Plus a lot of Anarchs are filthy communists to boot. "but it wasn't REAL socialism so they try it again" for the 143 years since Marx died. Which actually really ties in to the other topic of a lot of us (including me) being literally retarded.

>>98203312
I'm not really interested in arguing the human side of, just trying to look at it realistically. One bad side of Anarchs is as much as I'd want to side with them, they're just absolutely pretentious and immediately go into WITH ME OR AGAINST ME!!! mentality just because you're not vibing with their shitty punk rock LARP. Being aggressively douchey and tryhard doesn't win people over to their side. Fucking calm down you Brujah cunt I'm just saying I'd do this or that differently.

Fuck a lot of them are so obnoxiously loud and hidebound. For a bunch of supposed rebels they seem pretty allergic to anyone thinking or acting outside of their expectations. Granted, I'm biased because I really can't fucking stand Brujahs they're so obnoxious and Brujah and Anarchs is near interchangeable in some circles.

>>98203341
Your're right, Anarchs are shitty modern nights hipsters cosplaying as punks when the reality is that if one of thise chucklefucks learned to time travel and showed their face at a Misfits concert they wouldn't leave under their own power. They have nothing to define WHO they are so they act like WHAT they are is an equivalent substitute.

>>98203360
I'll admit a lot of this is cowardice in unlife like mortal life because the world is so much bigger than me. Maybe if I had more, if I had the necessary power, the right allies, proper underlings and ghoul minions maybe I could try to shake things but the reality is I don't have the balls to. But really is that even worth it?

>>98203341
>I'm not really interested in arguing the human side
We used to be human, plus they're our food source. If the Anarchs ever pulled a USSR 2.0 the food scarcity for kine becomes food scarcity for kindred.
>Brujah and Anarchs is near interchangeable in some circles.
They have a strange effect on their allies, they kind of rub off on them I noticed. An Anarch Gangrel or Toreador acts a lot more like a Brujah than anything.

>>98203440
Legit I can't stand Brujahs and I already can't stand quite a few other Clans but at least the others are amusing in their huffing and puffing and 'look at me, I'm an evil bastard' like the Ventrues. Like yeah okay you're Dracula (wrong clan I know) who does Wall Street. You're evil, you're a rich dick but I get it and more importantly I buy into it.

Can't take most Brujahs seriously, especially those closer to my age (in term of embrace or generation) because there's so much pretense of LOOK AT ME I HATE THE MAN, RAWR, IMMA REBEL DOWN WITH GOVERNMENT! Fuck sake man, I know it is a LARP for a simple reason: if it wasn't a LARP they'd be actively trying to buy or exchange as much explosives, ammunition and chemicals with me or my sire. Its not like we lack the goods, we got them but they're more interested in buying leather jackets than home made explosives. Believe me, I *tried* to sell them guns and explosives and they weren't interested.

>>98203390
There is an old saying: Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm.

I speak from experience when I tell you this is true. I have made and lost several fortunes. I have been hounded by lawmen across the centuries and only escaped with, as you put it, Vampiric Bullshit. But, through patience and perseverance, I am now a Prince. You may not believe it now, but you are already building the vampire you will.onr day become.

Just keep in mind...sometimes your actions can have shockingly far reaching consequences. Let me tell you a story. In the early 30's there was a crew of bank robbers. "Tiny" Tom Holloway, Jaccob Granger, Richard Dickerson, and John "Slim" Baker.

The law finally got a step ahead of them in 1934 at a First National bank in Chicago, and set an ambush. When the crew emerged from the bank, weighed down with bags of money, over 20 cops dumped thousands of rounds of ammunition into them from Shotguns, Tomy Guns, and service revolvers. There was so much gunfire there was a cloud of gunsmoke, it was like a battlefield from the black powder days.

When the smoke cleared there were three bodies on the sidewalk. Dick Richardson, and the lion's share of the stolen money, were never found.

It has recently been discovered that the serial numbers of the uncirculated bills stollen in that heist were used to buy War Bonds just over a decade later.

They say that, once a year, on the anniversary of the shootout, you can still hear the echoes of that battle and the screams of the dying men.

I'm never going back to Chicago.

>>98203616
>but you are already building the vampire you will.onr day become.
Or just waiting for that day a guy turn into some furry on steroid and leaves me in too many pieces to pick back together. Still....I suppose there IS value in being a black market dealer Nosferatu, its just a damn shame the last expansion ended in a near blood bath. Fuck lupines.

>They say that, once a year, on the anniversary of the shootout, you can still hear the echoes of that battle and the screams of the dying men
So here is a question: if ghosts are real and pissed off then how come every vamp ISN'T haunted by the spirits of every Kine they killed? Sort of crossed my mind but one can wager the answer is "magic ghost nonsense rules".

>I'm never going back to Chicago.
There are places in Chicago I wouldn't go even as a mortal.

>>98201012
Thanks MeowMeow, that was useful.

>>98203312
Has anyone ever actually done IQ tests on Vampires. I wasn't the brightest in life, so I doubt it did me any harm, but if the curse is that we all come out at 85 IQ well, some of you are probably pretty sore about that. But me, I'm thankful for the topup.

>>98203390
I mean you have all the time in the world, a little project helps pass the nights. And funny thing, no one ever goes out saying 'Oh I wish I had less power and less well placed allies' and so on.

Sadly Enrico has meet his maker, such as it is. Did give me some leads in the end, just before dawn. At least he was old enough to ash out properly.

>>98203515
I need you to have a good long think about why a given lick might be reluctant to buy massive amounts of guns and bombs directly from the Nosferatu. It's not out of cowardice or being fake. It's OpSec.

>>98203630
I am hardly a Giovanni, but my own suspicion is this: Who says they aren't? There may be a vengeful spirit screaming in impotent fury at you (or me!) right now but simply lacks the power to reach across the vale seperating the lands of the living from the lands of the dead. Or perhaps they haunt the places of their death, or their homes or some other place important to them. It is one of the many jokes the universe enjoys playing on people that we, who have crossed the threshold into death, have little to no awareness of the afterlife.

>>98203645
Online IQ tests are a thing, they take quite a while but if you're that curious set aside an evening and do one. I very much doubt our IQs are normalized by the embrace however. Also my sire says "if you're smart enough to know you're retarded, you're already ahead of the curve." they are, however, a misanthrope...

>>98202014
Ha! Had Lianhua read this, she'd have flown into a frenzy and besieged Castle Errand from the inside.
It goes without saying, Errand Knight will never acknowledge her as a subordinate, and he wouldn't even be wrong: she's still a subordinate of her Sire. If one night Spider Lily decides to come pick up her childe from this day care, there's nothing we could to to challenge her...
>>98203515
Since I was talking about frenzies, this reminds me: never tell the Brujah they're the Toreador of the Revolution.
>>98203630
>So here is a question: if ghosts are real and pissed off then how come every vamp ISN'T haunted by the spirits of every Kine they killed? Sort of crossed my mind but one can wager the answer is "magic ghost nonsense rules".
I asked our Giovanni, who as it turns out does know some Necromancy, just not as much as she'd like. Many of the people our kind kills simply pass away, they need very personal reasons to maintain some capacity of interacting with this world - fetters or in Italian, catene - which actually aren't always tied to vengeance over being killed.
When we end a life, she says, that life may have had unfulfilled aspirations, unfinished business and the like, there is more to dying than being mad at your murder.

An Elder Necromancer like Spider Lily, however, can do things like: torturing ghosts, incarnating ghosts into new bodies, extracting souls from bodies, creating completely artificial fetters and thus artificial wraiths irrespective of the souls' wishes or "natural history" had the Necromancer not interfered with it...

I don't know what is scarier, the description of every single power of this form of blood sorcery, or this girl's candid smile when she recites it, eager to make it her own, and I can't even begin to comprehend how much a wraith may dread any of this.

The Giovanni fledgling concludes: "If there's something strange in your neighborhood, who you gonna call? And would you haunt a Kindred after your death?"

>>98203630
>So here is a question: if ghosts are real and pissed off then how come every vamp ISN'T haunted by the spirits of every Kine they killed?
It depends on the body count, but Sabbat and Assamite controlled territories are indeed heavily haunted. Wherever slavery and death are prevalent, so is our Clan. We are the selfless, heroic and often thankless exorcists who protect the sons and daughters of Caine and the innocent, unfortunate kine from the machinations of irredeemably evil spirits!

>>98204439
Tonight on The View: necromancer bint continues to peddle her bullshit.

>>98203630
>So here is a question: if ghosts are real and pissed off then how come every vamp ISN'T haunted by the spirits of every Kine they killed? Sort of crossed my mind but one can wager the answer is "magic ghost nonsense rules".
The short answer is not every dead person leaves a ghost and not every ghost can access the living's layer of reality. The ones that can and then get up to some Shirley Jackson crap are the spectral equivalents to olympic medalists.

>>98205224
So that's why the dude I ran over with the ghoul's delivery truck never came back to haunt me.

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>>98205415

Rest assured even the youngest fledgeling has some poor lost soul wandering the netherworld weeping bloody tears and wailing in torment! How else do you think Necrowopy got enough to pull to force the Camarilla to accept their neutrality? Everyone understands the power in knowing where the bodies are buried; it's a Hell of a lot easier when you can ask the previous owner to draw you a map.

I wonder if Leatherkneck knows a spectral USS Philadelphia can still be seen burning in Tripoli on some nights?

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Finally, time to train my first disciple. Lianhua said she wanted to learn "Celeritas" first: "Power = force x velocity."

I was like: "I have no idea what I'm doing, or how, or why, but since your sire believes in me more than you do, here's the program: we find your limits, you and I, and get you to push past them. I'll be on the offensive, you defend yourself only, and only by dodging. I awakened under pressure."

We bow, fist in open hand. Couldn't touch her, later said I telegraph my moves so even if the speed is superhuman I make her job easier by forewarning her with my chambered fists and clumsy kicks.

A cartwheel over that chair, a slide under that table. Zoryana threatening to smash us to pieces if we did the same her sire's inherited Ming Dynasty porcelains. Our Errand Xia doing "Hong Kong cinema s**t", as the herd, tripping over each other to watch us, put it.

Andrei the ghoul shouts: "Corner her!" I do, she kicks her body up in the air, triangular jump off the wall. Now we reached "The Matrix Revolutions s**t", courtesy of her "Potentia." However, as she's still upside down in mid-air, I raise my arm and caress her hair.

Gotcha. She does the Bruce Lee "come here" gesture with her fingers, wants to know the next game we're playing. No more games! Next level is...

"Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake baker's man / Bake me a cake as fast as you can"

Takes her five secs to get her from a lack of faith I find disturbing, to beginning to believe. And I just go faster and faster and faster and...

Looked a lot like pic related. Hands still hurting. Managed to pat her head. She's mad. I caress a non-existent beard and turn around. "You let your guard down."

I meant no patty cake with that.

I casually pull a precious cup off a shelf like a bored cat. Gravity does her business. Lianhua dashes parallel to the floor. The porcelain was safe, sound, held like a baby. My body flew to a different room, cuz Errand Xia experienced superspeed for the first time, ladies & gents.

>>98206093
How did you know Lianhua was going to successfully save the china (lower case c) from hitting the floor?

>>98206109
I didn't. She didn't. The real question is: did Spider Lily know I was the right kind of idiot for the job?

>>98206119
Anybody can use a genius. True mastery lies in harnessing the power of idiots. Give me enough idiots and I will take over the world!

>>98206184
>harnessing the power of idiots.
Well it's your time to shine.

If I survive the howling I'm tracking each of you down and giving you a sun-tan
Vermin the lot of you unworthy of the Dark Fathers gift

>>98207471
Fuck you too. I hope you like getting impaled through the mouth and out the rectum and left in the sunrise. Fucking threatening me, what the fuck did I do to you? Stupid bitch.

>>98205415
It is worth keeping in mind that just because WE are supernatural some things really are just mundane. I was stalking a small patrol of Mexican soldiers during the Mexican War when I heard an absolutely blood curdling scream. I freely admit it made me break out in a blood sweat. But I investigated anyway, and what did I find? A lost goat. It screamed again and if I hadn't been looking right at the thing I would have sworn a human throat had made that sound.

>>98207471
If.

Blue Fairy's letter had a text attached: "All Is Mind. An Essay on Metaphysical Idealism Among Kindred and Others." Still tryna figure out what this means. The new Schreck.AI says it's about vampires, mages, etc. believing the universe is fundamentally mental and not made of atoms, consciousnesses creates and shapes matter. I'm not dealing with this college level stuff, I'll have the rest of the coterie tell me "what did I think of it."
Do any of you guys buy into this mind (or spirit) over matter mumbo jumbo?

>>98208271
>if I hadn't been looking right at the thing I would have sworn a human throat had made that sound.
Pls don't jinx it about 'weregoats' I can't deal with those existing.

>>98208496
You seem more concerned with things that go bump in the night, than things that go bump into you. So what if weregoats or satyrs do exist? I can deal with their existence by never seeing one. This world is too big to discriminate against hypothetical goat people.

Hate having to go quiet for things. It's always such a drag to go through the backlog.
>>98176446
>(AKA: ANNOYING VOYEURISTIC FREAK)
A Nosferatu that's a Nosferatu that's a Nosferatu. I get it, seeing somebody be what their clan meant to be is traumatizing for you, pointy hat. No need to make it my problem.
Also, you really do just shake angrily. I'll make fun of it anyways, even if it's a condition of some sort, don't worry.

>>98196270
>>98194481
Finally.

>>98208496
They ain't a thing. Probably. Werecrocodiles are real though. Rare, but they're real. You don't live in a sewer, right? Crocodiles love sewers.

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The Winnipeg “Situation” (Recap 9)

It has been a long night, so I'll keep this brief

> Last night things kicked off with us taking the fight directly to the Cammies, who are still mostly chuff
> Standard pyramid scheme shit, 9 of 10 subordinates of the Prince being ghouls of varying degrees of cluelessness
> Attempts at re-grouping while my Loups were circling proved futile, even with their werewolf hunters getting every toy they wanted
> Between us and the Sabbat getting bold it was probably already over
> But clearly, some people are beyond reason

> We went into the Downtown with the full war-party, hoping to kill the Prince
> Or at least land the type of damage that would make her and hers run, make it clear to the KT Caenis this wasn't worth it
> Then we'd be able to exploit a few weaknesses that our Nosferatu and animists identified in the Sabbat
> Naturally we couldn't just get away with this as the 'Pet Dogs' of Pontius took the opportunity to come out and play
> When my little pack were moving through a tunnel, big and ugly popped out of a ceiling light
> Tried to rip my Face off, specifically
> Failed to do it but the rotten mother fucker turned what should have been the last kick-in-the-head Alberta had coming into...
> Eh. Hour and a half cage-match.
> Had to drag out more than one mind-broken (by seeing the horrors of the skin-changers) normie, all while ugly was trying to rip my remaining arm out of the socket and going insane it couldn't manage that
> Only when we were getting into the dicey hours of the late night did it turn, reinforcements arrived from the other sections
> Mèo-Mèo hit the freak with something that made him twist into a pretzel then bee-line for her, let Horns and Big-Pipe finally hurl the thing out into the brush
> Wretch hit a tree. A tree which sprouted thorns and tried to rend the Dancer.
> Its (two) companions made their appearance to retrieve their third.
> And the shadows took them back. We didn't kill it. Sadly.

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>>98210134

> Fortunately, everyone else had a lot more success with the Camarilla- even the Sabbat raid
> The other sections of the war-party overran the Camarilla safe houses and wiped out their would be Primogens and Council
> Shows where the Prince's priorities were, I guess
> Victoria and William are mostly responsible, the bomb LuckyChe cooked up wiped out almost everyone important before the fight even started
> It was even worse when the Sabbat arrived, everyone else has deduced that Pontius' pet dog was supposed to be leading the charge, but it went rogue to try and make the attack on myself and the nominal pack leaders
> Left the Sabbat subordinates clueless, and lacking the firepower to deal with our young Dragon
> Fear's warform might not be the most offensive or dangerous thing in the world, but when you're trapped in a confined space with it?
> Suddenly, very scary
> Like you have a giant angry Michelin Man with claws mugging you in an alleyway
> Then when the Crow King flooded the tunnels with rats? The remaining Braves took a hint and fled.

> Prince Maria Pilsudski is currently MIA, while Kill Team Caenis seems operational. But the rest of the Camarilla operation is just gone.
> Meanwhile, The Sabbat are cranking up their numbers as much as possible.
> Also, Sorcerer is MIA.
> I am not happy about this.

More as it comes. Winnipeg out

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>>98208909
>>98208049
Emergency meeting tonight, you're getting the location directly by subconscious tick.

We're also nearing the end of this Chronicle folks so if you got any ideas or input put them forward. I'm looking forward to seeing how the absolute shitfest I've got lined up pans out.

>>98208455
Is there a division between things being real because they are atoms and things being real because we enforce them to be? Toss out the paraphrasing and the intellectual chicken-strangling. Those two truths can exist simultaneously.

One just matters much more to you, my little seeker.

>>98208496
'Weregoats' may not be real but there is at least one Gangrel in Ontario who got himself twisted up bad enough he looks like a goat man.

Weirdly enough one of the only decent folk I met, last I passed through. Goes by 'Owen.'

Call him Billy and he'll eat you.

>>98208588
>You seem more concerned with things that go bump in the night
Yeah well becoming the thing that goes bump in the night only to find out its actually a fucking monster mash in there does that to a guy. Makes the whole vampire thing a whole lot less cool.

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>>98210134
>>98210144
>>98210240
Schway
Cranking 90s on pumping out all the liquid warfare we need, cause I got a tonne of vitae to brun

>>98210144
> Fear's warform might not be the most offensive or dangerous thing in the world, but when you're trapped in a confined space with it?
> Suddenly, very scary

My Sire always "said" the big secret of the
Werewolves is that they aren't any stronger mentally than anything else. He told me if I should find myself unexpectedly facing one I should make a threat display backed up by Presence and then run. Because any vampire less than fifty has no business trying to kill one, and then as part of a well equiped group.

I forgot to ask when I posted his stats, did you want a run down on Horseman's prefered tactics?

>>98210240
>Call him Billy and he'll eat you.
How gruff.

>>98210306
This monster mash went on for millennia but the children of Caine continue to survive and rule over the night. I may be biased, but I dare say the more monsters we leave behind, the cooler we look. Most Cainites don't even know the first thing about fairies, will you catalogue each and every creature you may never meet, and quest for cold iron weaponry, or will you devote yourself to the study of the gifts of Caine, fledgling, as my childe does? A lupine's might is no valid excuse for you to neglect cultivating your POTENTIA. In yours and other's Disciplines lies the versatility in answering threats that you seek.

>>98210134
>>98210144
There are three to four possibilities as to who snatched sorc. None of them are good.
>Pilsudski
Fairly classic hostage exchange, she leaves town and gives you his location. Unless she knows how to make pipe bombs. Or Sorc managed to seduce her on the sly.
>KTC
Very likely to try the Pipebomb ploy, regardless of Sorc's hypothetical rizz.
>Pontius
Aftrr the humiliating defeats he's been taking, Ponty will "wash his hands" of him in the worst possible way. He'll look to get theatrical, somewhere everyone can see and probably involving crucifiction. What's the highest point in Winnipeg that faces East?
>The BSDs
Given Lupine theology on what we are and the Dancers' recent history with Cainite prisoners, this is the bleakest possibility. If it's anything like the last Lick who got grabbed, it'll be a long process, they'll need somewhere they can keep an unstaked vampire still for nights at a time while they.. do their thing. Last time involved some kind of Tattoo or brand that ate the prisoner's mind, ate everything I guess.

>>98211194
>will you devote yourself to the study of the gifts of Caine, fledgling, as my childe does?
While my sire is (generally) a rather chill dude who isn't in constant power trip or abuse mode, the downside is that I've found him to be quite lacking as a teacher when it come to Disciplines. I've gotten the hang of Potence, it is a really simple discipline but it has good utility and is easy to use in a pinch to punch or kick someone away really hard.

Still he does suck as a teacher for Disciplines or the more esoteric matters of Kindred existence, something I am not afraid to state simply because he himself is well aware. My embrace was one where he wanted someone with the mortal skills to run, manage and expand a black market business. In that aspect he is quite shrewd and not unlike some Ventrues, just far uglier and much more stinky. Beyond needing to keep myself hidden and lurking around to avoid Masquerade breaches, there are many aspects of vampiric life he hasn't been a great teacher. Quite a few things I've only barely begun to research as much gets alluded to by my warren clan mates but not everything is spoken of in plain terms. In retrospect this might have been part of the training, to FORCE me to learn, to lurk, to adapt and to research the information myself however a lot of this I had to struggle with as making sense of hearsay and tall tales from realities is difficult. I only know of Necromancy and Blood Magic from second hand accounts, for example and have not really been introduced to their full breadth of powers. All I know for sure is if I train my clan's innate gifts I can punch a guy's head off, do some ninja-ass pseudo invisibility and talk to rodents and shit.

Btw for those who think I 'had it easy' with my embrace, trust me I didn't. A few of the warren guys went 'Hey, we need to haze the misshapen little shit who joined up and teach him survival'. This resulted in having to learn to either dodge or send back dumpsters and one instance of getting my non breathing ass dunked into the deeper sewer system and ending up having to swim back out of a lake once the sun had set because apparently one of the Warren dwellers decided he wanted to be the vampire version of the Drill Sergeant from Full Metal Jacket. Complete with me cleaning the warren with old toothbrushes.

All this because my sire wanted a guy who knew how to use Excel.

Imagine getting cursed forever because some shithead eons ago was too proud to admit he was wrong.

>>98210240
> Fear's warform might not be the most offensive or dangerous thing in the world, but when you're trapped in a confined space with it?
> Suddenly, very scary
Beware of pinch points of the heavy machinery and file an entry permit before entering confined spaces.
>Is there a division between things being real because they are atoms and things being real because we enforce them to be? Toss out the paraphrasing and the intellectual chicken-strangling. Those two truths can exist simultaneously.
Things are only atoms because we believe them to be.
>There are three to four possibilities as to who snatched sorc. None of them are good.
My buddy is missing?
>What's the highest point in Winnipeg that faces East?
Human Rights Museum? The Forks? The whole area there is kind of high and exposed eastward towards the Red River and Provencher Boulevard. I hope he managed to woo Ms. Pilsudski...

>>98212195
we sure he wasn't cursed because he technically offered a valid sacrifice and god got mad about that so he made caine retroactively wrong?
he can be a shithead too, just takes two to 'tango' (poison all of creation)

>>98212209
Let's ignore the murder here for a moment. Pretend that this isn't the problem.
Abel was not Cain's to offer up. Not only is Abel not the sort of sacrifice God would want, if God DID want a sacrifice of humans, only Adam would have been allowed to sacrifice Abel.
Remember that Cain, much like his father, has the knowledge of Good and Evil - as do all men. Cain knew that murder was evil. Cain also knew that theft was evil. This knowledge was written upon his heart.

Beyond that, he was offered God's forgiveness. He was offered Abel's forgiveness. And he rejected it both times. That people he wronged told him that all he had to do was admit he was wrong, and he couldn't do it.

While it doesn't make it into the book of Nod, I am willing to bet the The Christ himself offered him forgiveness and he rejected it.

>>98212241
>That people he wronged told him that all he had to do was admit he was wrong, and he couldn't do it.
So Cain is just an autistic nerd, then?

>>98212241
GOD demanded what was precious. He favoured Abel. He was blind to Caine. Until Caine did the bad thing.

Even if all of what you said is true fundamentally all of the blame gets pushed onto Caine and it feels like this was never just on Caine. Not completely. And when the "all knowing" and "all powerful" Demiurge demands your capitulation, what is the one thing in your power to do?

To never yield. If there is even a tiny kernel of Righteous Truth in Caine? He shouldn't.

>>98212278
He farmed grain. Obviously he was a fucking nerd.

>>98212314
That's a lot of sophistry for "refusing to admit I made a mistake makes me right."
The sentiments of a child.

>>98212319
You ignore the kernel.
The sentiment of a self-important sire.

>>98212329
More like I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Back when I was mortal, I had children. And when I read the tale of Caine, I don't see some "righteous truth."
I see an older sibling harming their brother, and then refusing to apologize because of whatever childish logic he can to explain why he shouldn't have to say he's sorry for giving his brother a black eye. Except Caine was a grown man, and he didn't give Abel a black eye, he murdered him.

There is no kernel of righteous truth. No more than there's a kernel of "Righteous Truth" in a child who doesn't understand that they need a full nights sleep rebelling against the concept of bed time.

And I get it on some level, why you WANT to believe there is something righteous to it. Because it's hard to face the truth. You, me, and every other kindred in existence have been dealt a shit hand; an incomprehensible long life of being a scavenging parasite, and a constant paranoia that the death you have "escaped" from is far more imminent than you think.

All because some Mesopotamian shithead couldn't admit he was wrong.

>>98212073
>chill but not great teacher
And there's the catch for us licks. The best of us, at ahh being licks, are among the worst of us.
>Punch and Kick hard
I always thought that was rather a waste of strength. I mean, with a big enough lever all that nonsense. Have you tried finding something that you can wield that won't buckle under your strength. You ever crack a chain like a whip? Can you swing rolled steel cable like a lariat? There gotta be some use for that.

And most of us don't get magic or at least not by default. Clan Gangrels gifts are not that different then nossies honestly. We can talk to animals, change our bodies and we can be tough, even shrug off potence tough. You can say some mumbo jumbo about it , but that's about it. You have to go lapping on other lick's veins to get the rest.

>>98212209
Just the same way that being technically right, is the best kind of right, being technically wrong is the best kind of wrong. The point of a sacrifice is to please, and he didn't. That ain't retroactive.

Busting these safehouses is somewhat slow, they tend to be of the way and walled in or up or dug down. I'll save everyone the boring details, So far best find has been the books for a variety of businesses on both sides of the boarder.

>>98212348
You know one angle of this and you refuse to accept the potential reality could be unset.
WHAT. IS. PRECIOUS.

I was raised in a house with the expectation to perform for the family. Where if I failed, my auntie would belt me. And you know what? I was NEVER able to do what was demanded. Can't sweep out the whole house when there are locked doors. Can't earn enough money when I literally can't work enough hours. And sometimes when I did enough right? The old bat found a reason to belt me anyways. Because she liked hurting kids. Even when I wasn't a little kid anymore.

Adam told his sons they had to please their god, to make offerings of what mattered to them to seek his blessings and avoid his anger. And that god praised one child and scorned the other.

And after the deed was done? Did they demand he admit was wrong for the sake of it? No. They did that shitty thing.

> You blasphemed with this.

It isn't 'Admit what you did was wrong.' It was 'Admit what you did was wrong to HIM.'

And THAT. That is the kind of shit that makes men drive their heels into the dirt and drags them into the torture nexus rather than yield. I didn't ever hurt my auntie, but her obituary was the best thing I ever read in the paper.

>>98212383
>You ever crack a chain like a whip? Can you swing rolled steel cable like a lariat? There gotta be some use for that.
I'm a former fucking desk person, a beige bureaucrat. A cursed soul of the darkest pit of damnation known as Human Resources. I crunch numbers of spread sheets and sometimes act like a vampire door to door salesman to sell our black market junk.

The first time I got into a fight with a vamp, it was a fairly light hearted and casual knife fight. I ended up looking even worse than I normally do as that Brujah dickhead decided to make pork filet out of my face until I kicked him back across the room. I am not a fighter, not at all!

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Did that for shits and giggles but I am rusty on chargen for Vamp. He's mostly a basic character with maybe a few extra dot in abilities here and there as gained exp. Quite the weakling as you can see.

>>98212207
Think Acoustics, where would he put Sorc on a cross that would lead to the whole of Winnipeg hearing him catch the rays?

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>>98212629
The big "Winnipeg" sign stage at the Forks maybe? It faces south though (picrel). Maybe the side of one of the skyscrapers downtown? I'm worried about my boi, we gotta find him before something horrible happens.

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Or here, it's right behind the legislature building and has the acoustics of a concert venue.

>>98212241
Nah. Cain already gave the very hest he had, and God cursed him for it. God showed he WANTED blood by favoring Abel. God showed he hated Adam and Eve by making a tree with fruit, putting it RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, and then saying "No Touchy"

Constantine is right, God us just a kid with an Ant Farm.

>>98210144
We'll find the pointy hat, whatever the cost! While he is exceptionally twitchy and loud, that is no reason to abandon a friend.

>>98210240 My two goobers were mostly backup dancers throughout the chronicle, so it feels fair to not add too much. Plus I just like how you're running things thus far, no complaints.

In terms of potential impact that's more specific than vague Nossie antics, they're both fairly mature, well-traveled and experienced vamps. Wiliam's got 6-dot Obfuscate, Victoria's got high Obfuscate and Animalism, by their 1905-chronicle sheets. For the sake of spectacle, it'd be fine and compatible with all I've used them for to bump them down a generation, give William 7th dot Obfuscate bullshit and Victoria gets 6th gen Animalism. They're anyways not identical to the 1905 chronicle versions of them, at this point.

If we go for that, Victoria (initially just to fuck with whoever reads her posts) mentioned the possibility of driving a Black Spiral Dancer double-mad by hitting them with the Obfuscate power that entirely cuts out all outside stimuli from the target, so that's an option for William, as is making small armies, moving vehicles or places unseen. Victoria could do all sorts of stupid shit for an all-out crisis, stuff she'd not normally want to do, like, for instance, going for Tier of Souls, drinking from William or one of the more open-minded Loups to borrow their power for a bit. That's what Tier of Souls allows, even if it's poorly defined and Revised. What's scarier than a werewolf? A very invisible werewolf. She'd maybe even pass for a Black Spiral Dancer visually, what with the Nossie ugliness affecting the Crinos form, amplified by her low humanity and, therefore, strong Beast and thus Wyrmic taint. Tzimmy-flavor, definitely something they'd pick up thanks to traveling and to spending more than a century on a quest to find ways to kill ancients.

>>98210323
Good.

>>98210513
Not the worst advice. But the real boons of the Loups was never raw strength.

Also you look like a baby vamp for reasons I will not share; But are very funny to me.
Sure. Always down for more information.

>>98211934
Internalized. My thanks.

>>98212207
>Human Rights Museum? The Forks?
Scouring them both now.

>>98213538
I appreciate it greatly William. Here's hoping.
Oh that's juicy. This is going to be one hell of a finale.

The most puzzling thing about the Biblical account of Caine's story is... is God making him unkillable a punishment?
>>98212073
>I've found him to be quite lacking as a teacher when it come to Disciplines
My soccer-obsessed, world cup fever-infected fellow Necromancers from Italy and the Americas like to quote one manager who said mediocre become great managers, and great players become mediocre managers.
Great users of Disciplines don't always make for the best teachers of them, however, they are the only teachers for the more advanced powers within a single Discipline.
My childe Lianhua isn't wrong when she thinks I have more important things and childer to take care of, than to teach her what she wants. Yet, she has to understand that a fellow fledgling who just discovered his "super powers" is in a better position to teach her, than an Elder who may well have forgotten the night she noticed she could draw her hidden weapons in half the time.
I discovered this is well known in the Anarch Movement and the Panders, the Caitiff of the Sabbat, exchanging Disciplines like youngsters do with trading cards. But experimenting with illicit substances is the better metaphor, particularly when Diablerie is also an important source of said Disciplines, best if rare ones.
>>98212392
>I was raised in a house with the expectation to perform for the family. Where if I failed, my auntie would belt me. And you know what? I was NEVER able to do what was demanded. Can't sweep out the whole house when there are locked doors. Can't earn enough money when I literally can't work enough hours. And sometimes when I did enough right? The old bat found a reason to belt me anyways. Because she liked hurting kids. Even when I wasn't a little kid anymore.
>I didn't ever hurt my auntie, but her obituary was the best thing I ever read in the paper.
Anonymous poster, did you continue the cycle of abuse with victims of your own or, looking back, did surviving this evil made you a better person?

>>98213589
*mediocre players become great managers
Hmph. This bothersome character limit.

>>98211934
There's also the extra option that the Pyramid or its breakway segments are the culprits. While he is not really a high-profile case, and the Tremere have bigger issues even in the region, it still is not impossible. Same as extracting him shouldn't be impossible, even if tricky. I am sure no well-minded Tremere would fight over one, even if talented and helpful, member of their line, it's just wasteful, sunk cost fallacy made manifest. Plus there's been enough runaways as of late that one more, not particularly powerful or rich on secrets, shouldn't be apocalyptic.
Not that it'll be cheap to just buy him out, but that's just costs of having pointy-hat friends, sometimes.

>Last time involved some kind of Tattoo or brand that ate the prisoner's mind, ate everything I guess.
Oh, on that subject, that's no doubt the most dreadful possibility. I actually recall the instance with the other prisoner, mostly third-hand, it was recounted to me by the Tremere who tried to help that man via relaying various little rites to him. Didn't seem to work out.

>>98213578 For extra fun value, Victoria's got an artifact on her from the 1905 chronicle. A fox tail that gives you the aura and scent of a regular red fox. It's a nifty little thing, could be that wearing it for as long as she did, and using it frequently, has somehow fucked with Victoria enough that maybe the Crinos form looks vulpine, or the tail on it is that of a fox.
>This is going to be one hell of a finale.
Can't wait to read it, you always write great stuff.

>>98213589
I think it makes a decent amount of sense from an ironic perspective. Cain made God watch his creations kill each other and offer the blood and flesh up as tribute, and so Cain is forced to walk the Earth forever, watching his own progeny kill each other, unable to even escape this grim spectacle by suicide or somebody else's hand. Does kind of make all of us props to his punishment, unpleasantly enough.

>>98212397
Most human fighters that you encounter, have what? 10 years experiance? From about 14 to 24, maybe 12 years? I get it, you're not a fighter NOW. What I'm saying is that you could be. I don't think you can gain muscle mass in our state but potence is already crazy. Practice makes perfect as they say, so maybe the next time you can snap off that Brujah Dickhead's ahh well face at a distance instead of the aforementioned pork fillet.

>>98212686
Nice to know that the complex against authoirity goes all the way up. Are you sure you're not a purple haired land whale? I haven't see the goods of course but you sound just like one.

Man what a busy night.

I asked Zoryana to let me and my disciple use the soundproofed room as shooting range, while she did the riding crop-toting military instructor act, yes, the same way I awoke to Celerity, except this time I didn't get whipped afterwards: Castle Errand is no plantation.

Now the Princess of Castle Errand reminded me that to properly teach Lianhua, I should give her some of my vitae, but I wanted something more equal. Given how my first fight went, me and the girls agreed I could use some Potence in my life. In the end me and Lianhua exchanged blood equally, and the contract extends to me teaching Obfuscate in exchange for Potence.

The Harpy from last time will return to formally record all this prestationing we do, and since he's a Toreador I'll have him judge our, yes our, progress with Celerity.

The Chinese Giovanni cut her wrist and mine with a sword. Even a Giovanni's lips and tongue hurt like hellfire! Aaah they don't even need the fangs! Zoryana oversaw everything and did the Jedi magic trick again to make me "stay", before the Beast made a mess caught between the pain and pleasure. Apparently I taste like a good kebab with yogurt sauce + red sauce and a ton of veggies, and Lianhua is most similar to the "good stuff" in thickness, to me she's like a very lean meat I never had before drowned in a hot and sour sauce. This is miles, miles better than masturbation, I may be no expert but it has to be better than sex itself.

Our Ventrue Errand Chancellor hosted a boys only meeting. The topic was Wren's jealousy of Lianhua. The blood doll's very hurt, I've neglected her feelings, and her birthday is coming soon. Hawk of the herd wants me to watch Spider-Man 3 and "do the opposite of what Maguire does to MJ". Andrei straight up went: "Just masturbate her before feeding bro. You don't know how to please a lady? Magpie probably slept with half of the city since she was fif-" Oh my God! I can't with this ghoul!

What am I doing with my life...

>>98213770
>I haven't see the goods
That's because you're a moron who doesn't understand what an archive is. As has been repeated stated - it's clear you didn't get your position based on competency.

>>98212392
The problem with your thesis is that you're ignoring that Caine, still mortal and still human, knew the difference between good and evil. That is the fruit of the garden his father and mother ate, and it is the burden he is born with.

Caine knew murder was evil.

Everything you have said, from your own whinging about your aunt's cruelty to Caine somehow not being able to understand that murder is wrong, is making excuses.

>>98213589
>The most puzzling thing about the Biblical account of Caine's story is... is God making him unkillable a punishment?
It's not that puzzling.
God watched Caine murder his younger brother. And so, the core of Caine's punishment was to live forever, and to watch his children and grandchildren and so on murder each other.

Because the entire point is God wanting Caine to realize the horror of it. That as Caine watched his own children devour each other, he would realize that this is fragment of what God saw when Caine murdered Abel. That this perspective would make him humble.

>>98213808
>Andrei straight up went: "Just masturbate her before feeding bro.
Andrei's a Revenant, isn't he?

>>98213589
>Anonymous poster, did you continue the cycle of abuse with victims of your own or, looking back, did surviving this evil made you a better person?
I don't know, but when I died I just went on my own road. Started basically pulling a thing with clean homeless people doing a bit of light vitae healing in exchange for 'donating blood.' Started doing surgery, autopsies, and prescriptions for people with less than legal folk. But at this point I should get a doctorate and make this fuck-ass clinic official.

God I ain't even fed on anyone in months. I just get extra blood for surgeries and 'infusions' (crazy rich people thing.)

>>98214067
That ain't the thing in contest. The fundamental ain't if Caine an asshole (he was) or if what he did was wrong (it was.) The base lies with God and Adam having a hand in it.

You're ignoring the thing with God. That's the issue here. You focus on Caine. Caine this. Caine that. Caine did. Caine Dad. Fine. Fuck it. It ain't that murder is wrong its that they demanded sacrifice over and over again. Told Caine to sacrifice what he loved. Set up his brother killing his flock while he was passive and were either stupid or malignant to see what they were brewing when God scorned the vegetables.

THAT. That is a small evil that festers the bigger one. That is the thing where I have to believe God is the only mother fucker in that garden who didn't eat a single fucking fruit because he is either cruel or stupid.

And you know what? God didn't learn shit. He didn't eye for an eye him like he did with others. He wanted to torture Caine forever and watch him suffer. You said it yourself.

And why should Caine EVER be humble when God won't be? Why should he apologize for his majority of the evil when that old core festers inside it, belonging to Adam and God?

Now. Cause we clearly disagree on the fundamental heart a this shit, and I ain't wanting to Caine and Abel the two of us, let's leave well enough alone.

Alright?

>>98213578
You mean aside from that one time someone was talking about a three way vampire throwdown with bonus hot and sexy werewolf action and my dumbass brain got it's wires crossed and conflated a Tzim's fleshcrafted warform with a werewolfs warform just because the poster used a shorthand of the Tzim's name and embareassed the shit out of myself?

While modern parlance uses Templar and Paladin interchangeably, there IS a difference. A Paladin was sworn to to serve a specific member of tye clergy while a Templar served the Sabbat as a whole, and the Horseman considers that distinction still very important. He would litteraly try to walk through fire to save the life of a fledgeling Sabbat member. Pontius and those who serve him are screwed because they have been excommunicated.

He only uses feral whispers to communicate with his ghoul warhorse. He's mute; he CAN'T make animal sounds to talk to things. But he does not need to in order to communicate with his own ghoul. The two of them fight togother in perfect sync.

Because he is obligated to risk his own life for the Sabbat he uses all hus fear based powers and specialites to break enemies quickly and, most importantly, limit the number of people willing and able to attack him. He'll never go into a fight without activating Majesty. He will use his spotting threats alertness speciality with enhanced senses and aura reading to find the most damgerous enemies, like the guy hidden with a .50 cal anti-material rifle, RPG, or Mage, and hit them with paralyzing glance before killing them as quickly as possible.

Against a werewolf he will NOT fuck around. He will go all out with Potence and Celerity, taking five swings and getting five auto successes on every swing that hits.

The Horseman doesn't make shovelheads, though he will use Espirit de Corps to buff them or anyone else allied with him.

>>98214761
If he gets below 10 blood pool, he tries to grab anyone and have his horse use Celerity to take two move actions to break line of sight and so he can feed. Rember, the Horseman has a day Vaulderie with his packmates, so there us literally no danger in drinking another vampire. Despite that, he does not diab all willy nilly. In fact, it's been so long since he did tge veins aren't showing in his aura any more. Remember also he hss Grip of the Damned, so when he feeds gis victims fight back, cry and scream. They're just trying to break the grip of a five potence vampire, lol.

One last thing I didn't add in but you can. Horseman has three things not technically hard ruled in V20. One is a high carbon steel Zweihander meant to be swung one handed by a high potence vampire that adds a die of damage and, more importantly, is unbreakable. Tge second is tge fact that his armor is also upgraded with modern matetials. His gambeson is not made of cloth and leather, it's made of Gore-Tex and Kevlar. The chainmail at his joints is Titanium, and his armored plates are a Tungsten-Nickle alloy since tungsten alone is pretty brittle. Soak of six with a -5 mobility penalty for anyone other than the Horseman. The armor was made specificaly forba giant man with five potence. The last thing is hus custom combo discipline Husk. 18 xp, Potence and Celerity 3. For 1 willpower the amount of blood a vampire can drain in one turn is increased over their generation cap by the number of dots of potence they have. This leaves a very obviously desicated corpse. The Horseman has been known to turn those bodies into missile wespons.

>>98214747
The Ms. Rafastio we used to live with was a Revenant, so it's not unthinkable that my Russian Grand-Sire would have a Revenant too. However, the Russians chose to keep her and gave me Andrei. Hmmm...
Is there a way to test this, one that doesn't involve giving a blood sample to a Tremere, or having Andrei impregnate a mortal, I mean? Let's see. I think subjecting his seed, if any, to the fertility tests men take before having children could work. Yes, ghouls are infertile, Revenants are not, I don't usually think of modern scientific solutions to occult questions.
How fascinating.

>>98214755
>I don't know, but when I died I just went on my own road. Started basically pulling a thing with clean homeless people doing a bit of light vitae healing in exchange for 'donating blood.' Started doing surgery, autopsies, and prescriptions for people with less than legal folk. But at this point I should get a doctorate and make this fuck-ass clinic official.
>God I ain't even fed on anyone in months. I just get extra blood for surgeries and 'infusions' (crazy rich people thing.)
あら! You did become a better person, and what a fine specimen you grew into! A Cainite physician! Magnificent! How many lives were saved and improved by your aunt's belt! Most certainly not this evening, but maybe one night you may even find it in your heart to forgive her!

>>98214783
Foolish young girl! Do you wish to court death? Don't even joke about having any part or fluid from us, or from our servants', be seen under a microscope! Must I, of an Independent Clan, be the one to teach you the ways of the Masquerade?

>>98214864
I concede the point to your superior insight and understanding. Your Sire chose wisely, and so did we in inviting you into our coterie.

>>98214783
The fact his first response to an upset blood doll was "jill her off before feeding on her" suggests he's a revenant. All ghouls are creeps, but revs are a kind all their own.

>>98214783
>>98216387
Was that the reason Ms. Rafastio wanted to do things to my body as payment after healing it?

>>98213845
Yeah I'm no computer scientist. I'm just out here, how do the kids say it. It will come back to me. I'm going to run out of Saferooms soon. The last one was in the process of being rigged for explosives so someone higher up has caught on. Unexpected plus, I got to pick up some toys. Won't help me with the safehouses but I'm sure I can think of something to do with it.

>And you know what? God didn't learn shit.
God doesn't have to learn shit, he's the one that made the fucking gardon. Jesus Christ how dense are you fucking neonates. Did none of you receive any education in church? Are all of you worthless protestants?

>Why should caine be humble
Because humans should be humble. It's their place. Even their kings should be humble. They work best when humble. And that sniggly wiggly little part of you that would never let you be humble?
>God put it there to make you worst then a human.

>>98214864
Yes you will, Princess was trained wrong on purpose and you'd do well to extract yourself before your master gets you killed for fooling with neonates, no matter how useful the disciplines are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akoj39vgylU

>>98216411
You'll have to post your body for us to know for sure.

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>>98218009
It is almost like a prideful idiot god isn't worth worshipping.

Curious.

>>98218753
I'm sure Serpent would have agreed with you.