Thread #016 Grand-Dad EditionWelcome to /schreck/ where you can rp your VTM character! For all questions concerning the World of Darkness, please consult the WoDg and CoDg thread>>98138247>Previous Thread>>98044456Brief rules>We have no story teller, we are acephali>Threads are v20 based, although the night is long and full of whispers, lies, and half-truths. Decide your own canon but all will not believe you>all nicktuku will be diablerized on sight>all OOC discussion should be spoileredTHREAD QUESTION>What do you think of the Gehenna Prophecy?
>>98142918>>What do you think of the Gehenna Prophecy?I'm still learning, as I'm still quite close to being a Neonate (and still get treated like one by others a whole lot) but in all honesty? 'Meh'. A lot seemed to be coated in millennialism end-of-time rapture shit but for vampires but we're still standing. Whatever may have occurred was not the end of our kind, especially since I was embraced after the turn of the millennium,
>>98142918>Do all vampires hate each other, see other vampires as competition for food or idiots who will bring the wrath of humanity down on them?Yes.>does vampire blood thicken with age such that we eventually can no longer subsist on animal blood?Yes.>Can it be infered then that with enough time a vampire might no longer be able to feed on human blood and require pure Vitae?Ayep.>Does a vampire only trust another vampire so long as they are clearly superior to the other?Aside from a few fringe cases? oh yeah.>Can one vampire consume the soul and power of another vampire like some sick fucking Connor MaCLeod knockoff?Oh ho ho fuck yes!Can you do math?We'll know who can't when all the mind raped camarilla pawns flood the thread to pretend there is no such thing as methuselah and call me a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Don’t give me shit for this, but is the Jersey Devil actually real? I’ve seen the pines at night and I swear there is something big and fast fucking around in the dark.
>>98143162Oh please I'd love to know for sure. Found out last month about those werewolf fucks which pretty much ruined everything for my sire and I. Now I have started compiling every bit of information I can on everything. Not a scholar mind you, not by a long shot and odds are most I get is at least partially wrong but if it can save my ass in the future....
>>98142918gehenna only happens when enough crackhead elders believe it. an i mean 'believe' and 'stake any poor mother fucker who asks what a 'nod' is' believe. otherwise it all happened once i reckon. wow dad. yea when you spite sire kids they turn on you. real fucking genius you are for predicting that.stupid bastard. >>98143162sort of- maybe? did a whole mail-in thing back in the 60s and theres something off over in jersey. but theres also a bunch of mangy werewolves, at least two masquerade violations that are a lil sloppy, an some unconfirmed shit.so take your pick. or better yet, get yourself some cameras and microphones. licks always flake out on record. >>98143178good fledge, now youre getting somewhere.word of advice, make physical back-ups and keep a kill switch on your primary data reserve.
>>98143205>good fledge, now youre getting somewhere.Sire and I lost our ghouls, the guys working with/for our ghouls, several feeding grounds and also a huge chunk of our (admittedly small scale and insular) black market of acquiring things to resell to other Kindred (we used to spy on, manipulate and influence or worm a ghoul into the various delivery guys). ALL OF THIS FUCKING LOST! Because some goddam furries went on some sort of holy yiffing crusade or something over some of the product we were shipping around the trailer parks and I'm still not even sure wtf went down but APPARENTLY it is because of the beer (of all things) being tied to a company tied to a larger company etc. Something in the shit we were moving around and reselling to vamps and humans alike (hey, if it works it works) for cheap apparently was magically or spiritually contaminated or something and this got the wolves hunting down our operations.
Oh for those wondering why vamps would buy beer from us: you under estimate how many local guys really, really like getting drunk on piss-tasting beer by sucking it off their blood dolls. Lots of alcoholics around the Nashville trailer parks. I know a few guys who even reward their ghouls with a few extra pack of beers and smokes to keep 'em motivated.
>>98143178My campfire stories can’t be very useful for a note-taker but sure, I’ll give you the annotated version. In ‘93 I was humping through the woods with some pals laughing and generally feeling invincible, we all had Big Fledgeling Syndrome and our sire was a softie who gave us a lot of leash. We followed some campers in the pine, not to eat them (we were softies too) but just to practice our sneaking. And maybe to throw some rocks, give them a little scare. Anyway we got distracted and go up creek instead and my buddy hears this awful screaming, not animalistic, more like ‘I’m being eaten alive by a bear please shoot me’ screams. So we think damn, some sick fuck is skinning those campers and we’re gonna get shit for it. So we go back.Long story short the campers were fine but scared witless, all hugging each other around a fire. They heard it too. Big fucking thing was running around in the dark. I didn’t see it, couldn’t find a single footprint, but my mates found at least three skinny oaks uprooted by the campsite.Just flipped upside down and buried the wrong way, roots sticking up in the air. Didn’t make sense to do that. Lots of other trees were gone too, just obliterated. Only splinters. We asked an elder once and he looked at us like we were retarded and said that garou don’t scream. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned its that people just say shit to sound correct. >>98143205Maybe that can be a fun hazing exercise for the FNGs. I don’t live in Jerseyy anymore but I still eat crayons, so not much has changed.
>>98143221>>98143224and that is all it takes. you aint the first person to get spiritually tracked. you wont be the last.funny thing. you know we got malks that can smell russians? something about the shit that happened in the ussr and that whole scuffle with ol babushka.bad time waiting for you if you dont know thatnow back to you shrinkles id rec you get and your network get a screener. preferably not a fish fucker but if your doing contrabeer runs a schizo with reliability will do . not like i can complain. youngns in the den still traffic cigars off-island.
>>98143276I'm told the local Nosferatus 'shored up our defenses' for our hovels in case the furry fucks go deeper to track us down. A lot of it I'm kept in the dark but I know we gathered all the guns, home made explosives and several home made flamethrowers. I'm told it won't do much if the wolves show up but it might buy time for an escape if the worst happen.Fortunately, for now, it seems they've backed off out of Nashville. Emphasis on FOR NOW because who knows if/when they will come back. Bastards make me paranoid that the next time I jump a hobo he turns into a giant, furry roided out monsters with claws that can disembowel me. Sure, I can punch a guy pretty hard but that won't stop an eight feet tall rage monster.
>>98143221>Because some goddam furries went on some sort of holy yiffing crusade or something over some of the product we were shipping around the trailer parks and I'm still not even sure wtf went down but APPARENTLY it is because of the beer (of all things) being tied to a company tied to a larger company etcKing Breweries?
>Thread QuestionErm...>>98143146What is this about and what do you think can be done about it?
>>98144124That's the Gehenna prophecy. Some old ass vampires are hiding out, paranoid as fuck and eyeing each other jealously. They're prepping for war. And our blood is their ammo.The nitty gritty of the prophecy is specificaly about the grandchilder of Cain, and the biggest warning sign is the thin bloods. Makes sense; the thin bloods are kind if like munition plants shutting down. War is going to start soon. But soon by vampire time scale. So bear in mind, we're talking about the fact there are like, what? 12, 13 generations between the fourth human being to ever exist?The only thing to be done is dig those shitheads out of their holes and kill them first. Sucks for the vamps that run cover for 'em. They're in the way.
>>98144124The Gehenna Prophecy is a vampire apocalypse that foretells of a time where the ancient founders of the clans will rise from their slumber and devour their descendants wholesale. If I had to guess, Stripper is saying that the prophecy is self evidently true based on the observable actions of elder kindred: that even at the best of times they are barely restrained bundles of paranoia who view everyone else as a potential threat, and possibly as a pawn to be used in schemes against other elder kindred.As for whether elder kindred must feed from other kindred to sustain themselves; I can't say if there is any actual truth to it. It's possible that these elder kindred simply see it as a more efficient form of hunting: why hunt and drain 10 kine when a single younger kindred will do?
>>98142918I reject most many nodddist foundations. Primacy of Gehenna included. >>98144124The Book of Nod are a rough set of three very important and very dangerous books of vampire lore. On grounds your new sect often executes people over them.Of these three the 'Chronicle of Secrets' laid out by Grandmother Z is the most pressing as it lays out 'Gehenna,' a hypothetical apocalypse that will afflict the world. Just... One tiny problem. In all likelyhood Gehenna has already happened. Most of the astrological and environmental signs have and will happen again, caitiffs and thinbloods cyclically arise, and if there are truly a bunch of ancients like some carry on about the antideluvians and ur founders, they likely already beat the tar from one another, hence their absence.Not unlike the book of Revelations, now that I think about it.I would be happy to send you a copy of the book but unlike our dearest Sorcerer's Koldun basics homework, it would actively put you at risk. But if you ever come to Canada and want to be ACTIVELY WORSE? Well, you might spontaneously learn of it in my company. Crazy, right?
>>98144786>>98144857>>98144980Is this another thing like the Mayan end of the world or the Millennium Bug? What does my sect say?
>>98145892Your sect is the disposable pawns and/or willing collaborators with the bad guys of the Prophecy.
>>98144124Founders of the Thirteen Clans that make up most of vampirekind will awaken, eat us all and go to war with their Ur-Sire, Caine.The Sabbat's plan is kill them while they sleep, failing that, gain enough personal power to hold the line until Caine rolls in. The Camarilla's is to bury their heads in the sand, if not take orders from them in Secret. >>98144980This from the woman who very likely killed a (granted benign and forlorn) piece of The Eldest. Least that's Widow's theory.
>>98144786>That's the Gehenna prophecy. Some old ass vampires are hiding out, paranoid as fuck and eyeing each other jealously. They're prepping for war. And our blood is their ammo.Sometimes I think the religious angle is just made up bullshit to wage war for petty political reasons. Not unlike how humans do in a certain region I won't name. It seems more logical to me this is just Elders Cold War bullshit than an apocalyptic prophecy.
Here is what I have managed to see and analyze for myself and has (mostly) been corroborated by older Kindred:>Werewolves are fucking realThat one isn't up for debate, they are real. For a while I thought we vamps were the only ones around beside maybe zombies and ghosts but nope. This one isn't a shocked to those of you more in the know but it was for me, having been embraced (relatively) recently>Werewolves can change shape between man, wolf (or a very ugly dog-looking wolf for some apparently) and ROIDED OUT manwolfCan confirm having sighted the first two or seen evidence of these, with footprints changing to paws. The whole 'hulking out into a big bipedal manwolf' I have not seen for myself but has been commented on multiple time by older Kindred whose information I trust completely, at least on such matters. I can at least confirm this is at least partially different from Kindred who are able to use the ability we call 'Protean'.>Werewolves are way stronger than we areHaven't seen this one directly but I have seen the remains of my sire's ghouls as well as what at least one werewolf did to a truck, which implies a level of strength way beyond our strength enhancing abilities. The same trusted Kindred have told me their claws and teeth are razor sharp and can fuck us up as bad as the sun in some cases, which I'm guessing isn't just purely physical might but some bullshit magical ability they got. Speaking...>Werewolves got magic bullshitLike we got our Clan Disciplines, it seems there are different 'powers' of werewolf magic or so I am told. Cannot confirm this from second hand experience but it seems logical enough if we assume they work vaguely like we do. This could imply powers of strength, speed, senses and so on similar to our Disciplines. No clue what they call those, of course or what system of categorization they employ for it, if any at all.
>>98146184>Werewolves have Clans(?)Since they apparently don't reproduce by biting and turning people it seems these guys have their own Clan structure or something similar to it. Presumably based on actual bloodlines, since they are alive and can raise kids by all accounts. Some of the older Kindred have discussed many of the guys who roamed our territory are called Bone Gnashers or something similar and have members across the masses of smelly hoboes, trailer trash and those beneath notice by society which seems to at least partially imply a similarity to my own clan, Nosferatu. Apparently some wolf clans also have lineages amongst the Native Americans so it seems some of that Skinwalker stuff wasn't just internet spooky stories after all. Makes me wonder if they can also turn into crows or coyotes and shit.>Werewolves have their own Ghouls(?)Some humans seem to carry 'wolf blood' but can't shapeshift and this roughly makes them the Ghoul analogue but is a born condition, not something created.>Werewolves are weak to silverSeems that, like us, they do have their own odd weaknesses that pop culture got right.Beyond the usual Horror movie fare there's a whole lot less werewolf lore than there is vampire lore from the looks of it. A lot seem tied to folklore of the medieval era and other paganistic influences mixing with Christian beliefs. Could a cross repel them, like I'm told some crosses (or people of faith) supposedly can to us? Could bleeding a werewolf by making a cross on it's forehead or similar weird shit work? If anyone knows, tell me because im hardly eager to go try myself.
See this is where I'd shrug and carry on some of my old safety blanky beliefs I picked up under House Goratrix- But->>98145997WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE DARK FATHERS FRECKLED ASS ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT?!>>98146196>>98146184As someone who has the SUPREME DISPLEASURE of being in immediate range of the Lupines, they're weirder than they have any rite to be, and could pull off bullshit I can't describe. Don't get fancy with weaknesses, just make space.
>>98146254>they're weirder than they have any rite to beCome on, I find it hard to believe that a shapeshifting wolf man could have any powers weirder than a Vampire. What, do they shoot lasers made of moonbeams out of their eyes? Do they have magic anime werewolf kung fu? Come on man, everyone know Vampires are the ones with weird powers like turning into mist and shit.
>>98146287There are some things I can share as they do not fall under my Ductus' weird... "Thing" she has with the wolf-men. I watched on a security camera as one of my former 'peers' was torn apart by a Lupine which emerged from a mirror. I saw the back of that mirror, it just popped out of the reflection and turned the last best chance of the Gorgon Chantryhouse into fucking kibble. That is but one example. There are other things I am honour bound not to share. Although one of those things you said is correct and I HATE IT JUST SO MUCH OH YOU WOULDNT BELIEVE IT THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT
>>98146184>>98146196spirits
>>98145892Not particularly, although worries about the Mesoamerican calendar did coincide with a burst of fear about Gehenna. Your sect says worries about this (or seeking basic information) are basically a Sabbatism. Which would be dumb if we didn't have fledglings turning Antitribu IMMEDIATELY like fucking fictional lemmings the moment they hear about Antideluvians. The only ones worse are the Cammies that go 'Wow, cool ancient I can cannibalize!' >>98145997Widow is free to theorize, but the sad reality is we don't know. What I do know is that thing woke up the absolute worse in seemingly everyone who saw it. From NWBP going 'hmm yes today I shall sacrifice orphans to the meat pit' to that degenerate cannibal freak. And I'm glad it finally knew peace from the bad dream it afflicted every passing Malk with.>>98146254Hush ya's.
>>98146254>WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE DARK FATHERS FRECKLED ASS ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT?!During the conflict that drove your ductus from Milwaukee (?), she dug up a bizarre entity. About the size of a train, made of disorganized flesh and prone to driving cainite and cainille alike loony. It was an object of study for a certain pharmaceutical, one without enough "fuck you" money and clout to tell a company that works for an actual cosmic horror "Yeah, but naw." H0T killed it. >>98147528>but the sad reality is we don't know.Not yet, at least. Troubling thing is it matches the description of a number of rumors surrounding other cities. Though none as big or maddening as Milwaukee.
No.NO NO NO WHAT IS WITH THIS FRYER DISCHARGE SHARED WITH UTTER SUPREME BANALITY ON A FUCKING NOSFERATU KNITTING FORUM>Oh surely the jumped up beach bum from the Los Angeles' graveyard is mocking me>Oh hang on a moment this forum has some archives>That will surely clear this up>Let us see...>Ah...>Yes...CLEARLY I MUST HAVE BEEN EMBRACED BY CLAN MALKAVIAN AND I ONLY JUST NOTICED BECAUSE THIS SHIT MAKES THE MUTTERING OF CREEPY EYES LOOK FUCKING SANETHAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS?! >>98148053Thank you kindly Cammie Killer Crypt.>>98147528WHEN YOU GET BACK YOU ARE TELLING ME EVERYTHING AND YOU ARENT HIDING BEHIND THAT 'OOH HARD TO EXPLAIN SHIT' WITH THIS SHIT YOU WANT TO PULL WE NEED ABSOLUTE TRUST
So we got vamps (duh), we got spirits, ghosts, wizards, faeries and possibly bigfoot and the chupacabra is there any other nightmare critter that DOESN'T exist? How the hell did I miss all of those when mortal because according to you guys the world is crawling with all this fantasy rpg nonsense. What's next, angel and demons? I mean okay maybe, those make sense if God and Cain are somewhat real but what else is lurking there? Manbearpig?
>>98142918it is interesting in the mistranslations.the works of the mnemosynes are curious in their excellent grasp of archaic greek in tandem with their poorer understanding of earlier languagesonce you recognize it, entire portions become... dubious. and several double entendre are completely ignored by their butchered english conversion. >>98148466you seek to label things already, larvae? that is not the worst idea but i caution you, there shall always be some wrench awaiting a man of certainty. keep the words of alamut close to your heart.>nothing is true, and in this, all things are permitted.
I'm so fucking lonely.I am king nobody of somewhere that doesn't matter. On a map, my dominion stretches far. But there's no fucking people here. I'm a rat, skulking from dying town to dying town.All because I had the audacity to get embraced wrong.
2nd class.Errand Chancellor: "Did you ever set foot in New York City? Can you travel during the day?"Errand Knight: "No."C: "Still think you're should deliver that letter yourself?"K: "Better if one of your ghouls does it."C: "Selecting the right person of the job is part of the duties of those with power. What's the worst payment the Giovanni will ask of you?"K: "An assassination."C: "I'd say the worst imaginable is a breach of the Traditions, our trust or otherwise acting against our Sect. But yours is the more likely answer. Why?"K: "Their Elder effectively saved me from the Scourge of NY. It's a life for a life, and... 'something' explicitly told me their clan can use an assassin."C: "Good. Why not use your skills just for espionage?"K: "I don't know."C: "They already have the best spies: invisible ghosts pressed into their service. How would you perform your likely task?"K: "Study the target. Don't get caught."C: "Are you the best person for the job?"K: "Our ghouls don't know my Disciplines."C: "Let me ask another question, what about the Right of Destruction?"K: "Another reason I mustn't get caught."C: "What if the target is found violating the Traditions? Do you think the Giovanni will complain if a Blood Hunt is called?"K: "They'll be happy as long as the target dies."C: "Meaning the Sheriff can be the right person for the job. Or the whole Sect in New Orleans. What if the target is a mortal?"K: "It's open season."C: "What if said mortal knows too much?"K: "Then, to protect the Masquerade, the Prince will use his power."C: "See? Depending on the circumstances, this debt to the Giovanni can make you a hero of the Traditions. Or a villain."
>>98148466You shouldn't forget your kine vampire hunters. Now, the critters which "do not exist" are called Bygones, I'm not an expert, you can ask the nearest Tremere for the details if you want, but I'd worry more about what things that do go bump in the night, or day, over those which do not.
>>98149123Sean we aren't calling you ConquestJust come to the meeting in Norfolk you dramatic mother fucker
>>98151024I'm in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest, not Virginia.Genuinely, I am pretty sure I am the only kindred for miles except for the occasional Gangrel or Ravnos passing through.
