>aren't even showcased in the most recent 40k trailerHow do we make the Tau more popular?
Make the Tau cow shit canon>b-but that won't help them be taken seriouslyYou didn't say "taken seriously" you said "more popular."
>>98145778Same way GW always cycles around popularity of the not-marine factions. >make an OP codex and new models Tau specific things that would likely market well are a variety of alien auxiliaries you can chose special characters with powerups from like any of the endless waves of fps battle royal games kids play. Big tits are unc, cover that shit up.
>>98145778By posting your models.
>>98145778>blabbarbos fartPass
Make them hot
>>98145787THE TAU'VA WILLS IT!
>>98145861>Big tits are uncDamn the rumors of zoomers all being fags are true.
They are more popular than eldar on rule34
>>98145778You can't make shit more appealing even if you sprinkle it with gold. It's still a turd.
>>98145861You mean that as you grow older you appreciate the mature female form more? Alert the presses anon.
>>98145778>How do we make the Tau more popular?Maybe focus on the cool mechsuits and samurai asthetics and avoid gooner shit.
>>98145778Open your wallets and out buy the Space Marine players.
>>98146075>avoid gooner shit.Do you want to kill the franchise?
>>98146090How do we convince a middle eastern oil prince to out buy marines in a way that makes gw thinks tau has exploded in popularity?
>>98145787
>>98146119Yes. GW should have shut down years ago. They are a clear case of having continued a good thing for so long it has lost what made it good. Now its basically the simpsons.
>>98146186But then how am I supposed to get my Tau milkies?
>>98146195I mean people draw fanart of stuff that's been long dead. Big blue titties won't go away. Honestly when something dies, and truly dies, the gooner shit is often the only thing that sustains it in the public memory. Not that 40k is gonna go away, it's more popular than ever, but still.
>>98145861>cover that shit upFuck off zoomer.
>>98145990No, you made that shit up on your own. I mean if you want a thing to be more popular you have to appeal to your audiences. For GW thats>pay pigs via Waaac and fomo So the pattern of a powerful codex to sell new models is a guarantee. Whatever coomer stuff you're on if your own fault.
>>98146279You mean 7th edition Tau which was the most hated version of Tau?People want Marines to win, their self inserts, not blueberry aliens.
>>98146306>7th edition lmaoI mean the same thing they've done since before you were born.
>>98146186>you should take my advice, I DO wish you ill but you would be doing the right thing according to my autistic beliefsI'll get right on that chief.
>>98145778Everyone forgets that the tau look like malnourished children, with the exception of the warrior clan who look like well-fed children.
>>98146121Theyre all cousins over there, so if you have an Arab friend just ask him to call.up through the family network. Youll.get one eventually
>>98145778Make a second Crisis Suit kit that's a slightly different style of mech but is completely compatible with the current Crisis Suit kit.
>>98146279GW's audience is whoever has money. Gooners have insane amounts of money.
>>98145778>How do we make the Tau more popular?By going back to what actually made Tau cool in the first place, being a more grounded approach to future warfare, emphasising a combined arms approach, autonomous drones, mid sized battlesuits used in a fire support role and mechanised and armoured assets supporting integrated infantry.
>>98145956Kill yourself ND
>>98145861Fucking retard
>>98145961They have become enslaved to the will of advertisers and credit card companies, and call it virtuous.
>>98145778This is just titty spam thread.They wouldn't be nearly as tedious if you fuckers got some new material instead of reposting the same shit again and again and again.
>>98150902They're not paying you for this you know.
>>98150986NTA, they don't have to. It's free because we hate how tedious you guys are. Get new material instead of the same pictures over and over. From that alone, we know it's the same nolife autistic guy.
>>98145787That artists line work is so terrible I thought it was AI for second
>>98151008A: theres only so many people drawing tau boobaB: appealing to the fictitious "we" in order to pretend to have legitimacy is weaksauce.
>>98150986I don't mind cheesecake threads and you guys aren't even in top 20 worst things that dwell on this board.It just gets boring seeing the same stuff all the time.
>>98150986Chink used to draw some fun stuff.
>>98151163Ah, those were the days
>>98151102Your face is weaksauce. You piece of lazy crap. There are tons of people drawing Tau smut on TwitterX. Plenty of it is gay, but it exists.
insider here, the kroot will rebel and eat all the tau and it will become the kroot empire
>>98145861>big tits are unc
>>98151929Flat's good too.
>>98152805
>How do we make the Tau more popular?1. Return to the more noble version of the Tau, it was literally their only defining feature that set them even remotely apart from the other factions. Not necessarily making them the "good guys" but they really severe hell-turn GW made them do after 8th was kinda stupid2. Dramatically increase the viability and amount of client races. They're supposed to be this grand coalition of races but the most effective way to play them is just T'au, give the other races more flavor and models3. Fucking give them something to do, them wandering around "expanding" is just nothing, the Plague Wars thing was alright but it just sort of ended4. Expand the Tau'va or cut it, stop waffling5. Make them hot girls with huge tits
>>98152869Best James can do is a man-faced bull dyke special character model who's a total girlboss (read: the reason something catastrophic goes wrong) in a novel, and copious amounts of more waffling for the rest of the faction.You know, I'd prefer if they either went more towards the naive new kids on the block who blindly stumble into things and try their best, not realizing just how terrible the galaxy is and their propaganda department writing off all of their failures as learning experiences. Daemons consumed a colony world? Or go full Ming the Merciless where the Ethereals rules with an iron fist over an empire of different people. Everyone's equal (Ethereals are just more equal) and all the aliens who don't like it suddenly disappear. Of course all filtered through their propaganda and philosophy of the Greater Good.
I hate Tau, but I understood they're incredibly well-liked by normgroids and redditors, surprised they wouldn't trot out another stupid mech for easy cash.
>>98145778Add Gue'vesa, and other auxillaries to give them more of a Covenant style union of various aliens.Also give them a serious win against the Imperium, something that the Imperium can't just brush off as not being important.
>>98145961>>98146215>>98151929>I'll bite this obvious bait because it reaffirms my hatred of the younger generation
In a weird way, it feels like the Tau end up devaluing a lot of the stuff in the setting, because they're supposed to be the 'weak faction' that the Imperium doesn't take seriously, so anything that the Imperium ends up throwing at the Tau suddenly becomes not very important.Titans? Supposedly rare. Gets thrown at Tau and blown up even in the most minor of conflicts against them.Space Marines? Also supposed to be rare, yet most conflicts against the Tau see the involvement of multiple chapters (including First Founding chapters) and entire chapters have been lost fighting them.Exterminatus? Supposed to be a rare method of last resort when a planet is truly lost forever, yet the Imperium has used it multiple times against the Tau.
>>98153865They've been accelerating with the timeline. They're one of the only factions that still innovates, so they're a more serious threat now then they were when they were released.The first time the Imperium interacted with them they were basically bovine monkeys, now look at them.You also can't really consider the presence of the first founding chapters, they're goddamn everywhere just because they're the one people recognize but the logistics of it never made sense. Basically add a zero or two to their chapter size if you want to be realistic about how often they show up.
>>98153865You're like 4 editions behind lil bro. Tau ARE taken seriously as a credible threat after throwing a few half-assed crusades at the problem only emboldened them
>>98153865Also if they couldn't stand up to space marines they wouldn't be on the tabletop, there would be a lore blurb about "The Tau Genocide" in some codex.I don't know where you got the impression that they were truly weak, it's more that they're not a "drop everything" threat like a hive fleet or waaagh.
>>98154035It's also meant to be a statement on the Imperium's hubris. They never expected the tau to be a credible threat and kept dismissing them until they were impossible to ignore. It's like that guy who kept trying to warn people of a massive horde of wild boars and everyone dismissed him as "being scared of a few pigs" until a massive horde of wild boars swept through the countryside destroying everything in their path.
>>98154035>I don't know where you got the impression that they were truly weakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R66Rqe_hrI
>>98154130I'm not watching your gay little loretuber. Use your own words.
>>98153827Naw faggot it reaffirms my hatred of retards
>>98145861>big tits are uncYour balls are 90% microplastics you estrogen infused faggot zoomie lol
>>98152869That last point being the most important.
>>98146207
>>98145778They're commies, the marxists are the only ones that care about them. Maybe the woke otakus too. The that samurai one that rebel from the tau is often what the Otakus pick as their army over the Tau itself.
>>98156072They’re actually fascists, it’s a subtle but important distinction
>>98153865Not taken seriously? They are the most inteligent and advanced alien species of the setting after the Old Ones themselves, the only reason why they will never ever win is because they lack psykers, they can't move fast enough to have something like the Imperial Guard and hold a million planets sized empire.
>>98156104>tau are fascist>no league of tau cow’s breast inspection line up, not even at the water caste schoolGrim
>>98158857How do you know they dont? No way any Gue'la would be allowed to see such a thing.
>>98145778I want Soviet Tau. If they're going to be commies can they at least be aesthetic about it?
>>98159298They're not commies, they're fascists.
>>98145778Easy.>Stop with the suit spam. Bring back tanks and aircraft and drones as the main heavy hitters. Suits are armoured infantry at best.>Tau are now the scifi military enthusiast army for people actually with a brain. Unlike the Guard, who just wear the aesthetics.>Make Water Caste Tau tit-cau's. Every Caste practices eugenics to best fulfill their role, and the species they deal most frequently with is humans. It makes sense for, if not all, a good number of Water Caste to have that Asari-esque 'alien, but kinda hot' look.>Stop the boring 'Ethereals are acktually ebil tyrants' inferences. Instead, make the system actually popular and successful and work really well for the Tau.>While, simultaneously, making it clear that while it's a utopia for the Tau, Human psychology and nature means we, and other races, would struggle in it.>Lean into the fact that physically, they're at the bottom of the pole in the galaxy, and how they compensate with good tactics and technology.>The fire caste (correctly) prefers to use expensive materials and munitions over risking their personnel in an engagement.>Introduce tension not by 'Evil Ethereal masters', but by different Sept's, with varying populations of different species, having different specific interpretations of the Greater Good, according to those demographics.>Channel some old-school scifi and come up with some truly weird technology (Spin drives, Electron laser cannons, Bioengineered plants, or pathogens in artillery shells), to get around specific issues.Tau, from their Ochre days, are actually one of the coolest factions in 40k, because while looking the weirdest, they're arguably one of the most grounded, realistic, and unpretentious factions there.
>>98159561>guard for moralfagsHow about no?
>>98159570Not what I said anon.The army for genuine military enthusiasts who want an army that can support that interest. Not larpers who think guard are the irl military-like faction because they look most similar.
>>98159576But they're also just right about everything militarily, and live in an unironic utopia.>Stop with the suit spam.>scifi military enthusiast army for people actually with a brain.lol. "I want to fix this faction by making it a different faction">Electron laser cannons, Bioengineered plants, or pathogens in artillery shellsThose already exist in 40k, I'm starting to think you're a refugee from somewhere who wants the red carpet rolled out for you.
Ethereal maids.
>>98159596>and live in an unironic utopia.It's not really a utopia unless you're a fascist
Gue'vesa Communists Insurgents.
>>981596101. You never know on 4chan.2. The post stated that their "fixed" Tau would be a Tau-tailored utopia that other species don't entirely get. That's really boring unless you REALLY lean into the idea they are nearly soulless bovine bugmen, which is depressing.
>>98159607
>>98153827You forgot the gigachad
Rise UP Gue'vesa, against the tyranny of the so-called God Emperor.
>>98159576>>Tau are now the scifi military enthusiast army for people actually with a brain. Unlike the Guard, who just wear the aesthetics.But it already kind of does that, and more so, who would have thought that having a billion different types of drones really was the future of warfare. Anyways I love my Armored interdiction cadre, they specialize in Orbital drop assaults.
>>98159786cool picture
>>98160139The force is split up into two wings, both are deployed in seperate manta's. In a typical mission the Manta's will deploy from the capital ship and then begin to enter orbit, after completing a re-entry burn and decelerating and dropping to a more reasonable altitude, the bottom hangar will open briefly to Deploy the two Commanders. The two commanders will then have a birds eye view of the battle field while also being able to provide cover for the manta's. Once the commanders have determined a suitable drop site the Manta's will drop open completely and the first drop elements will deploy. The drop package is mission dependent and can either be one wing (either zeta of kappa wing), or a mix of both. Usually its just the armored vehicles who deploy first, being able to weather the incoming ground fire. Zeta wing is more about Seek and destroy, while Kappa wing is more about capture and control. The suits remain in the manta until specific crisis events require their deployment. And they drop as required.In game this means I use Kauyon and the Projection unit enhancement to keep all my suits and any two gunships of my choice in reserve so that they can deepstrike or come on the board and get good ambush angles on turns 2/3 depending. Its lots of fun. Kauyon is a great armored vehicle detachment since ignoring hit modifiers goes great with big guns never tire.
>>98145861I'm an Unc and love big tits so I can confirm.
>>98150902Sadly, coomer epidemic will continue until an imageboard with a very autistic set of mods who outright bans all coomers comes into being. Coomers are locusts.
>>98145778The gooner anime blueberry tits shit doesn't help their popularity.
>>98160186It absolutely does, but as we've seen with TWW to TOW, popularity among secondaries does not translate to mini sales.
>>98160186Dude the Tau in-canon are extremely ugly, flatulant bovine-people. I guarantee their popularity would fucking skyrocket if GW hated beauty less and made these blue losers actually attractive.
>>98160310>flatulant>This dumb roody-poo thinks the imperial primer is canon
>>98160372>I don't like it, so it's not canon
>>98160139Why there are only 5 rockets on one tank?
>>98160677One fell off.
>>98160372They're still tremendously ugly either way. Even the guys all look like old asian salarymen
>>98145778You asking this on 4chan is like an ant asking how to get to the moon
>>98160223>>98160310People who want to get into the grim dark battle church vs double hell vs giant dinosaur bugs vs space samurai elves vs cenobite elves vs rowdy football fans setting see a faction whose fanbase posts nothing but anime girls with big tits standing around having big tits and think "this is not grim dark or brutal. These guys just jerk off all day."Its the same reason the people who constantly post mouse girl porn don't make skaven more popular, they just make everyone else think every skaven fan is a chronic onanist.
>>98160831The people attracted to 40k's aesthetic appreciate beauty. Attractive women are appealing in a sense beyond just your dick; they are visually harmonious, whereas what we have now is visual garbage. Also did they put wrinkled ass butt-ugly bitches on power album covers? Do hot women and uhhh every male-coded thing you described not mix? Skaven gooner furshit is obviously seperate from the mainline appeal of Skaven being actually ugly evil rodents. They are gross in a cool way, like traditional monsters. By contrast, Tau are not only "good guys" but they're overtly pulling their aesthetics from mecha anime.This is like arguing that Sisters of Battle or Eldar should be ugly. You're just destroying part of their appeal. Tau should be beautiful.
>>98160406>orks are physically weaker than guardsmen
>>98160831>t. faggot who posts tau vore pirn
>>98160310Anon, everyone knows Shadowsun canonically looks like this.
>>98161019>Catachans can move and shoot heavy weapons>orks cannotChecks out.
>>98160888My argument isnt that they should be ugly, my argument is they should be doing something cool and looking badass, instead of looking like uwu moeshit.
>>98161300>t. faggot with a tau fatsona
>>98161263Kill yourself ND
>>98161091So you're nogames on top of being a lorelet.
>>98161300>this from the dude who has an obesity fetish for children and posts about it on /co/ at any given opportunity
Tautachans.
>>98161651Show me the rule that lets Orks ignore Heavy.
>>98159607Nah, her stink would fry your brain
>>98160724/tg/ is the bigger tell. The discord trannies who live on this board and infests its generals are frighteningly retarded.
I still remember when this shit came out and how it was so fundamentally different to the Tau Philosophy purely as response to the Imperium and the Tyranids, has there their crunch layout changed since then?
>>98162448
>>98160677All my rockets are magnetized so that they can be used as counters. Skyrays used to be one shot only (but in some editions could dump them all at once) so i magnetized every single one.
>>98162626Yeah, the stormsurge was so ugly, that I made the king crab. I still don't use it because I do like my mobility.
>>98162448>>98162634Forever!Tau drones ubiquitously developing a love for tau cows seems based and greater good(s) pilled.
>>98160139Dude, I can't believe you're still around. It's nice to see you.
>>98162678Holy fucking kino anon.
>>98162678Damn that's some cool shit anon.
>>98162841I love my army too much to ever abandon it.
>>98162877>>98162887
>>98162892
>>98162896The idea was a huge assault gun, but also something that could be in a 2d shoot em up as some sort of mid stage boss.
>>98162896>>98162899What a rape machine
>>98162841Is he the guy who kitbashed the “dummy thicc tau” models?
>>98163266They'd execute those milkers for tech Heresy, which is why you know the Tau are superior.
>>98163733Yea, consorting with xeno tech is Heresy. Leave it to the professionals.
>>98145778>do nothing>winAncient tau’va secret
>>98163810I guess not being featured means they're less likely to be destroyed by the GW writers?
>>98163826The only way to win when your IP is owned by slopworkshop or their associates in current year.Btw: L O N D O N
>>98163840>L O N D O NSorry, Ultima Segmentum.
How now, Tau cow?
>>98163923
>>98163921Kill yourself ND
>>98162448This one too. Kill yourself ND.
Here’s two colour test minis for my new cadre, for thread consideration.One is much more sloppy than the other, but the lettering does translate using the official alphabet.Will have to lean freehanding to paint pinup art on a vehicle or somewhere on my ghostkeel.
>>98160831>>98160888To weigh in on a dead debate with a third angle, I think making tau, if not all hyper-busty anime shortstacks, at least softbody shortstacks, is a good design choice as it distances them from other factions.Almost every other faction, species, and organization in 40k that is militant, is always depicted as some uber-fit peak specimen in their lore, absolutely mogging everyone else around them 94% of the time.>Guard are, in their writing, all strong and fit and made tough and leathery by age, who mog the local PDF in fitness and competence, and only lose individually to literal superhumans.>Assassins are that, taken to the limits of biological and physiological possibility, with huge sums of money and resources.>Marines are literal marines.>Orks can beat marines by being stronger.>Eldar beat both by being fast and nimble beyond human capacity.>Custodes pull the arms off marines, orks and eldar.Veteran Fire Caste, outside of a need for fitness to handle high G's ala an F1 driver, don't need to be physical. Their battlesuit handles the physicality. Their technology picks up where brainpower falters.They have narrative room to not be peak uber-fit athletes. So depicting them as such would just make them stand out less, and draw away from their unique attributes.
>>98164541i prefer the left if only because i like the brighter yellow and I prefer cleaner colors. but i think they're cool. I also feel like my freehand has improved immensely and also want to do some pinups, but i keep balking at the idea.
>>98152869Based
>>98164541wtf is coming out of the steath suit head
>>98162259yes that's why they troon out after all
>>98165645Grungy hair.Poor paint effort and bad camera angle do, I admit, make it less obvious, but that very much was a no-effort, spare bitz mini.
>>98159389New Tau unit:> Tau ethereal magical girl
>>98159561>>Stop the boring 'Ethereals are acktually ebil tyrants' inferences.My take would be to make them genuine utilitarists. No hypocrisy or secret self serving agenda, let that to corrupt imperial nobles, instead they're genuinely devoted to the greater good. They may be wrong of course, but if they think the best course of action need them to die, they will calmly walk to their death. Not as an heroic sacrifice but as a pure cold utilitarian logic.The Imperium may abandon soldiers to their deaths because they didn't care, actually hate them or just forgot they even exist. But the Tau can do the same after having coldly calculated the benefit/risk ratio. Unlike the Imperium, the Tau see value in people's life, because they measure it precisely.I would make the ethereal selfless to a unsettling degree.
>>98165990>"Do You Remember Love" intensifies
>>98165438Tau fart uncontrollably when stressed?
>>98160223More like, they should actually play into it. Canon tau are boring grimdark suitspam forgetting they were the bright spot of optimism in a dark cruel galaxy. Trying to make them appeal to imperial players that won't ever fucking touch them is dumb, they should be brighter and anime to juxtapose with how awful everything is.Which means, bring back the auxiliaries they were a key part of it.
>>98167321Kill yourself ND
>>98164592>Veteran Fire Caste, outside of a need for fitness to handle high G's ala an F1 driver, don't need to be physical.Everyone knows they just gain weight because of the super dense nutrient packs they eat as food. She gets too big for the crisis suit, they put her in a riptide. Then stormsurge, and then supremacy armor.
>>98168429>average Supremacy pilot
>>98165990>>98166682>Picrel: The Average Aun’la.Young Tau have to start training somewhere, even Ethereals.Morale boosting work as an idol is a good chance to practice critical performance skills, addressing other Tau, being a figure of reverence and commanding attention.It also does not require experience in complex administration work or governance, making it ideal for Aun’la.Canon-adjacent enough for me.
>>98168432Open the hatches, release the milk. >same damage profile as a rail cannon
>>98165438>>98167142>>98168429mmfmfmfghhhh... big fat gassy milky tau cow gf...
>>98168552>tua ethereal school is just boy/girlband where they “graduate” to political powerExtremely amusing.
New auxiliary race ideas:> A race that joined the Tau for selfish and opportunistic reasons but found out it's actually quite nice in thereEthereals knew they were dishonest but care not which path lead you to the greater good.Basically "Ferengis join the Federation"> A race to out-greater good the tau. Some sort of hive mind race, plant specie or AIIf AI I would rather have them, instead of betraying their creators as usual, decide to double down on their principles. Held their creators to the high standard they pretend to have.Alternatively, a plant race with no real concept of individuality. Rulewise I imagine a really weak fungus infantry that spread, producing new models with time. Getting rid of them is a waste of time, but ignoring them get you swarmed. Dedicated screen unit.> A race entirely uplifted by the from stone ageServe the greater good enthusiastically out of gratitude, despite not quite getting what it mean. Or perhaps they DO understand it and are a "noble savage" archetype? For some reason I'm picturing gentle giants with little brother energy.
>>98168606>tfw no milk tau gfStill like the idea of drones have a funny hiccup in their programming that makes them gravitate towards the most bodacious tau in its per-view. If only for the implication tau field tech wranglers are all the bustiest tomboys to office ladies, and the easiest way for the opposing factions to crack their databanks is to send their naturally bustiest hackers to do it personally.>artificial milkers only anger the despondent machine spirits
>>98168638You just described three different human planets occupied by the tau
>>98168647What? No, human are not a hive mind!... right?
>>98168669>humans get linked by the greater good before the tau doWould be funny
>>98168429>>98168432No, far better to stick them in something like picrel, or a Skyray.>No value in being lightweight for extra acceleration.>No need for strong muscles to support bodyweight in cornering. Instead, being well padded helps deal with jostling.>Well suited to those able to sit down and get comfortable for hours/days at a time.>Platform is relatively spacious, even next to the largest battlesuits, able to take 10 +2 crew in Devilfish configuration, but only taking 2-5 plus weapons systems and ammo for a Hammerhead or Skyray platform.
>>98168642>Still like the idea of drones have a funny hiccup in their programming that makes them gravitate towards the most bodacious tau in its per-view.
>>98168782Kill yourself ND
>>98168638All I know is the tau should have kaiju.Then the kroot and krootox should eat the kaiju, and become mini-me kaiju.With laser beams.
>>98168688They did, though. It's called The Emperor.
>>98169363>All I know is the tau should have kaiju.They do. Just not on the tabletop sadly.
>>98169375>>98169363Yeah I think they have a knight sized client species, but they're pacifist.
>>98168432>>98168714>tau operate on manyuu hikenchou logic BIG TITS = SUPREMACY, PROSPERITY, HARMONY…>t. tau script on the first of their spheres and what they represent
>>98169545
>>98169545>their spheres and what they representSuch is the will of T'au'va.
Tau are mostly reduced to big booba blue skin girls. This is why they are unpopular.
>>98170047>reduced to big boobaHow massive were the booba before?
>>98169363> Great Knarloc Rex> Mecha-Knarloc battlesuit> Vespid EmpressWhat else?
>>98161755Now show me the ork "heavy" weapons. Most of the weapons that would have heavy in other armies don't have heavy because orks can move and shoot them without needing a special rule.
>>98170419Man this got a laugh out of me, excellent schizopost
>>98163549I have made an edit of this picture once. I fixed the boobs, made them smaller, more sensible. It actually became a great picture, but for the life of me I can't find where I posted and saved it.
>>98170419>Now show me the ork "heavy" weapons.'ere ya go.>Most of the weapons that would have heavy in other armies don't have heavy because orks can move and shoot them without needing a special rule.So your argument is that Orks are stronger than power armoured space marines?
>>98169545>>98170034The Will of the T'au'va!
>>98168609>YWN get a clearly scripted exchange event with the Ethereal Caste students putting on a performance for your local classes (it's something they're graded on, alongside political acumen).>YWN gossip about how your Cadre's Aun'La has to juggle her studies and entry level caste work, alongside her performing career/duties as an idol.>YWN tactically advise a thirty-something Milfy Aun'el to inspire the Cadre by putting on a performance again, only to find her old outfit more snug than she remembered.Why even live gue'vesa?
>>98170497Sounds like you made it drastically worse, how horrible you are.
>>98170499>So your argument is that Orks are stronger than power armoured space marines?NTA, but they absolutely are. Only the youngest/freshest boys are at SM strength, and any older/veteran ork is absolutely stronger than any SM. And that's still only talking about Orks, their original state of Krorks was a nightmare that sent primal fear throughout the OG Eldar empire at it's highest strength, and when there were some Waaghs that were just beginning to perhaps be reaching that state again during parts of the Horus Heresy and especially the early post-Heresy, the Primarchs were shitting themselves perhaps more than they ever did with Chaos and their fallen versions, and most other threats.
>>98170499>So your argument is that Orks are stronger than power armoured space marines?Orks cleave through power armor with rusty hatchets, no shit they're stronger than space marines.
>>98171972And marines put knives through power armour.
>>98170611Truly the T'au are on another level.
>>98169545That's just the rustic, somewhat isolated and antiquarian 'Twin-Moons' sept of D'Yanoi.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/D%27yanoi
>>98145778More kroot
>>98145787No, the opposite. Tau were literally made to appeal to weeaboos who like anime. They should make the females tiny flat-chested lolis.
>>98172071Mono-edged knives are standard issue space marine gear. Are you saying all Ork blades are mono-edged?
>>98172500>Twin MoonsSurely they knew what they were doing.
>>98172071>space marines gear is as crudely forged and of poor quality as ork gearNot the own you think it is
>>98145778Anyone else feel Tau have gotten more popular in the recent year?
>>98159607Ethereal woman love Gue'la.
>>98160888>The people attracted to 40k's aesthetic appreciate beauty.This franchise is fucking ugly and goofy looking as fuck.
>>98163549This looked like a moomin while I was scrolling down
>>98173723Yes.Also when will we get a Shadowsun model that doesn't have a nose?
>>98174026Just use a mold line removal tool.
>>98173723More porn doesn't mean more popular. But the porn has gotten pretty good.
>>98173723not more popular, but less hated i think.
>>98173723I think it's just distance from the 1d4 era, which was much more tedious and groupthink than people remember. Hating Tau is a very shovel heresy blam vibe.Now they're mostly known for booba which is a double edged sword.Personally I started liking them after reading The Greater Evil, pretty kino.
>>98173987It is now. Pre-Primaris space marines were pure drip. Everyone was blinged the fuck out.>>98174044>More porn doesn't mean more popular.You must work in marketing, they seem to be the last people on the planet not to know that this isn't the case.
>>98173987t. thinks One Piece looks cool
>>98174230I have never read or watched One Piece in my life and I think it looks goofy too, but at least it's a somewhat comedic manga for 12 year olds 40k fags can't admit their game is for comic reading 12 year olds too
>>98174236>40k fags can't admit their game is for comic reading 12 year olds tooBro the entire setting is the "everything you thought was cool when you were 10, actually still is" meme. It's just also aesthetic, depending on the faction.If you've never seen art of Eldar or Black Templars or whatever, I don't know what to tell you.
>>98174262>Bro the entire setting is the "everything you thought was cool when you were 10, actually still is" meme.Remember to tell that to the fags that want you to treat it like it isn't the goofiest shit ever thrown at a wall
>>98174272No. Just because the ultimate weapon in the setting is a giant mecha with a skull for a face, doesn't mean you can't have autistic arguments about how many rivets are on it.You ignored the part about how it still has an aesthetic. I know you're going to play the "it's all goofy and dumb so you're not allowed to complain if I put a Honda Accord in the game" card.
>>98174043>Instantly makes the face look better.Nice. Also good basing can never get mine to look so good.
>>98174044Why is she in Solution 9?
>>98174383They made the model, but they can't be bothered to make the background.
>>98174296thanks, its amazing what 1mm of removed plastic and a bit of greenstuff can do, I do like a good base that tells a story, and generally my armies story is that they've outflanked some guard pdf in a swamp. For example picture related is my barracuda after its attack run has downed a sentinel. and in >>98162678, >>98162896 the King Crab has popped the turret off a leman russ.
>>98174612And my ghost keel that has just ambushed an artillery spotter crew.
>>98174460>They made the modelIt's literally a modded FF14 model tho. It's even got a midlander hairstyle and the 2B leggings
>>98174163You seem to be forgetting how obnoxious tau fans were then too. Worst fan base in that dumpster fire. No one came close.
>>98168609>>98168552>>98166682I'm actually waiting on Picrel for my 'punk' Tau army.Was going to do a young, stoner Ethereal with a pipe and a loose kimono, but this thread has made a convincing case for a Tau Idol instead.Any anons have any sculpting ideas for jewelry? Robes/Costume?
>>98145778Make them space Ukrainians. They already use drones. Lean into the drones aspect.
>>98175835They are already space americans>Focus on Technology>Focus on Airpower>Focus on Firepower and guns>Uses drones a lot.>New upstarts that think they're better than everyone else>this isn't actually true and they're just horribly naive. >use nato style acronyms and command and control codes. >Everyone in the empire is equal, except one caste is more equal than others and controls everything>Coalition of the "willing" xenos against threats>All the good technology and equipment is kept for themselves however, and allies only get token equipment>gunboat diplomacy>Ultimatums that give the illusion of choice>Conspiracies that hint at mind control experimentation>calls itself multicultural in order to mask deep segregation>Weebs
>>98174189>You must work in marketing, they seem to be the last people on the planet not to know that this isn't the case.Why has the modern market tried to hard to shunt the "sex sells" angle?
>>98178686Its because the modern market is dominated by female purchasing power, and females don't like visual sexual cues (they prefer written and suggestive ones rather than visual ones) Notice how society isn't sexless, pop songs are dirtier than ever, and womans lit is filled with pornographic fantasies. so its not sex that's wrong, its the visualization of sex that is wrong.
>>98178708>the modern market is dominated by female purchasing powerNot really, it's dominated by female marketing consultants who Hairdresser Theory the shit out of companies they work for by desexing them and then proceed to buy 12 more SPITROASTED BY CEO RAPIST MONSTERS AT MINOTAUR MILKING RANCH booktok foidslop audiobooks with the money they earned tanking another franchise.
>>98175013Spotted the shovelblam redditard
>>98179034Makes me wonder if GW leaned into the beastmen rape story angle if they could start the whole warhammer romance black library section. Instead of shy away, Just fucking lean into it. And then start releasing the tie in miniatures once the market is primed. There's no way this could fail.
>>98154035>it's more that they're not a "drop everything" threat like a hive fleet or waaagh.There should be more factions like this.
>>98179058It'd have to be about empire girls taming the rapebeasts with their exquisite main character pussies
>>98178647I think webbishness has receded a lot in recent years, although I'm not sure if it's because it's truly a dying subculture or that liking Japanese shit has become so mainstream that being a weeb isn't really noticeable.
>>98179311Good luck, after all the crying tau got
>>98179453When I say weebs I mean I think that there's this perception that the tau were made for the japanese market, but I think it was made for the american market. Its less made for japanse mecha fans, then for american fans of Japanese mecha.
>>98179687I mean I would easily agree with that. The battlesuits aren't sleek enough to really fall into the gundam/weebshit aesthetic.
>>98145778Maybe have them suffer a bit?I dunno, tau is too gary stu and immune to half the bullshit in the 40k universeJust like wipe out 2/3's of them, add some stakes.
>>98179058This but Orks and Tyranids. I'm serious. It would work.>>98179687It was clearly for western weebs, you would have to be genuinely stupid to try and cut in on Gundam in their own turf.
>>98145778More cool robots
>>98179040>clot shot tranny trying to memory hole all the “gay space chinks numba one” with Redditers adopting it as le science faction vs chud imperialsIt was a grim dark time truly
Big blue titties.
>>98180103Little blue hoofies.
>>98179040NTA but guardfags are awful in a different way
There’s a severe lack of Tau Male/Human Female porn
>>98180310Doesn't fulfill the fantasy of 99% of male 50k fans.
>>98180286>sample imageI'd post the full size but there's bare titty so you'll just have to accept being called a retarded moron instead.
>>98180418I gotcha with his next piece.
>>98174295>No.I'll do it for you then if you're not up to the job, 40k has tons of pretentious fags surrounding it
>>98180418Pretty sure the mod killed himself a long time ago, bare tit and sometimes pussy lips stay up here for days
>>98180247Surely hooves are like kryptonite to a footfag.
>>98180431I'd agree given that the wojack thread is still up.
>>98180426Why is the bottom one a cutter
Remember, "Aun'la" literally translates into "Princess".
>>98181119That's cute.
>>98181119Well, excuse me, Aun'la!
>>98181119Need more Aun'la's
>>98180375>50k fans>50kIn 10K years the Greater Good God has ensured that female tau breed true with all client species. The sons are all of the father's species and the daughters are all tau.
>>98184514Careful, they're fertile.
>>98145778The problem is that Tau lore is boring. The Imperium is cool because it's full of interesting subfactions that you can make unique armies out of, but the Tau don't have this. They have the Septs, but we know nothing about what these Septs are like and what makes them different from each other. They have the Castes, but there's no way to make an army that represents a specific Caste because by design the only caste that fights is the Fire Caste. They have the Auxiliary races, but the Auxiliary races aren't able to fight independently. I know that the Tau will never have the model range of the Imperium, but they could at least make some subfaction-specific units and maybe some alternative bits for mainline units to represent association with that subfaction.I'm going to write a bunch of fan lore for how I'd flesh the Tau out, if people are interested, I'll post it next time a Tau thread comes around. (or this one if it's not dead by the time i'm finished)
>>98185190>They have the Septs, but we know nothing about what these Septs are like and what makes them different from each other.Not quite true.Though the lore is older-style, so decently vague to let the reader fill in the finer details based on other points of information about the species, each Sept does have information about what it's like, and what the people there are like.>1st sphere Septs are mostly Tau dominated, are more traditional in Tau'va interpretation, and hold greater cultural authority generally.>The newer the Sept, the less cultural authority it holds, with the fourth and fifth sphere septs being more warzone than home system so far.>Different Septs are known for different Castes culturally, as well as different attitudes.>Fal'shia is Earth Caste heavy, and known for R&D facilities. The Lockheed Martin of Tau worlds.>Vior'la is renowned for its Fire Caste, think pre 1945's British Navy or Top Gun, where everyone's choleric, aggressive and perfectionist.>D'yanoi. Rustic and traditionalist even by T'au standards. Known for its interesting orbital cycles and deciding social hierarchy by breast size.>T'olku. Model Tau'va world and common center of interspecies negociations, with a lot of Water Caste and Ethereals per capita.>Pech. Homeworld of the Kroot, and as such Tau and other races are a considerable minority in society.>Etc Etc.They could be flushed out, and the differences highlighted better, but there is enough to draw differences between finer culture.
>>98185675>D'yanoi. Rustic and traditionalist even by T'au standards. Known for[...] deciding social hierarchy by breast size.Source? I can't find anything about this.
>>98185905See >>98169545 >>98172500
>>98145778Make them hot girls like everyone is saying but unironically. They already stand out from normal warhammer stuff so a bit of fanservice won't do anymore damage. The mechs and suits are already cool looking. It's purely the fact that they're buttfuck ugly that keeps them unpopular. They need a legitimately pretty set of models and corresponding artwork. The exotic features will make them far more popular than normal women too.
>>98159561You are a gay retard.
>>98145778Publicly execute anyone who would post "big tiddy blueberry mommy uwu" images. And I'm talking medieval executions, hang draw and quarter those freaks, drag them into pieces with horses, inject them with enough adrenaline to prevent blacking out from shock then open them throat-to-cock and let them watch their innards slowly slop out in front of them, really make everyone understand that these are subhuman filth reviled by any right-thinking Tau fan.That's the only way they'll stop being the loser weeb degenerate faction, and the only way they'll ever become popular with anyone except loser weebs.
>>98186278>watch out everyone, we've got a tough guy over hereKek.
>>98167142Yeah show up over their world with an exterminatus fleet, toss down a match, and you wipe out the planet without having to expend a single shell.
>>98186278Based.
>>98145778>How do we make the Tau more popular?Confirm they they're grimdark instead of pussyfooting around it and allowing Taufags to pretend like they're "good guys." The only "good" Tau in this setting should be the Farsight Enclaves and they should have detachment rules for Genestealer Cults and Lost & Damned units. The Tau Empire itself is an overbearing authoritarian oligarchy ruled by self-important tyrants. Make them act like it.
>>98186489>The only "good" Tau in this setting should be the Farsight Enclaves and they should have detachment rules for Genestealer Cults and Lost & Damned unitsLet me explain what I mean by this before somebody gets pissy about it: The Farsight Enclaves are a pirate haven. Farsight's "rulership" is effectively hands off. That means Voidborn Genestealer Cults, Eldar Corsairs, Gue'vesa Mercenaries, Renegade Space Marines, and so on are all on the table for detachments. GW has one of the most potentially successful and highly unit-diverse factions in the game sitting on a fucking backburner so Taufags can pat themselves on the back about how benevolent their gay bluemangroup is.
>>98151163It was a more carefree time for the board.
>>98186310>watch out everyone, we've got a retard who doesn't know how to use the right meme over hereGigakek.
>>98145778Well other than giving the women fat tits and giving water caste femboys shapely asses, they could maybe try to make their mechs look cool.
>>98165438
>>98186489I'd argue that it would be a refreshing change and no less grimdark to have a "good guys" faction (even if just by 40k standards) who simply haven't yet realized how absolutely doomed they are, to whom learning the true scale and nature of the wider 40k universe (or even just the IoM) would be the kind of maddening incomprehensibility Lovecraft wrote about.The main issue with this I can think of is just how to keep them in an ongoing storyline without getting wiped out.
>>98188367>I'd argue that it would be a refreshing change and no less grimdark to have a "good guys" faction>The main issue with this I can think of is just how to keep them in an ongoing storyline without getting wiped out.Therein lies the problem with the Tau: They're presented as good guys but in order to maintain their staunchly benevolent image they have to be portrayed as a running gag. It is absurd that they, as a faction, would continue making naive mistakes for centuries. Farsight represents the solution: He has been touched by Chaos. He understands how the galaxy works and how easy it is for someone to lose themselves in the dark powers. The Enclaves are decentralized and low maintenance.Imagine if GW came out of the gate swinging with a Farsight Enclaves codex where you've got Fire Warriors and Kroot with outdated Tau Empire gear backed up by Gue'vesa in reverse engineered Battlesuits plus detachment rules for including Renegade Space Marines, Aeldari Corsairs, and even Leagues of Votann. The Gue'vesa shit alone would sell like wildfire.
>>98185190Here's my fan lore for Tau sub-factions, and the armies that players could build off of them. These factions would have one or two unique models each, and maybe custom sprues to modify the look of mainline units associated with these factions.>Information Awareness: Tau intelligence and covert ops, monitoring the populace within the Empire's borders and doing CIA shit beyond the Empire's borders. Sneaky, technologically advanced glass-cannon operators.>Ministry of Harmony: Law enforcement and ideological rectification. Heavy hitters specializing in fighting other Tau.>Ethereal Guard: Praetorian Guard for the Ethereals, drop the half-naked glaive guys and make it an elite battlesuit force.>All-Empire Mobilization Corps: Cross-caste paramilitary organization, for emergencies where castes have to be mobilized for tasks outside of their caste competency. Lightly armed Earth Caste and Water Caste civilian militia with a talent for fortifications and field emplacements.>Sagely Expeditionary Orders: Scholars and political educators of the Tau'va, spreading the ideology of the Greater Good to wherever its hold is weakest. Combat-capable Ethereals with their loyal Fire Caste retinues.>Health and Eugenics Bureau: Maintains and develops the genomes of genetically specialized Tau clans within each caste, as well as ensuring Tau health in novel biospheres. Gene-engineered Tau supersoldiers (more diverse but less effective than Astartes) and species-specific bioweapons.>Diplomatic Corps: Water Caste outreach to non-Tau both within and outside the Empire. Gue'vesa and non-Tau mercenaries under Water Caste officers.>Directorate of Progress and Plenitude: Economic planning and technological development. Drones, vehicles, and battlesuits with a minimum of warm bodies as operators.
>>98190343>redditbuddy
>>98188650>even Leagues of VotannI like how you say this as of it's more preposterous than space marines when tau have a longstanding relationship with the leagues
>>98186527>so Taufags can pat themselves on the back about how benevolent their gay bluemangroup is.You act like taufags haven't been begging for farsight enclaves to get even a crumb of the attention some random space marine chapter will get when it comes to upgrade kits, unique units, a unique codex, etc.God, marinefags are retarded. We all know you just want this as a backdoor for renegade marines rules anyways.
>>98190343>4chanbuddy
>>98188650>It is absurd that they, as a faction, would continue making naive mistakes for centuries.So just out of curiosity, have you studied any history at all, like even in public education in primary and secondary school?
>>98190607Anon isn't the entire fucking point of the Tau that they technologically progressed incredibly quickly because they prefer reason over superstition and have a degree of social solidarity greater than human beings?
>>98190534>We all know you just want this as a backdoor for renegade marines rules anyways.Don't be silly I want Chaos Space Marine Corsairs fighting alongside Gue'vesa Battlesuits with Tau vehicles and fuck you if you don't like it.
>>98190990I always felt a big theme in the Tau was propaganda and deception.So of course it seems like a good deal but with the ethereals there has to be catch, and we'll never know it because the ethereals are all secretive and shit. So yeah is that really good? or its it evil in an even more insidious and manipulative than the guy who just say's he's going to murder you and then proceeds to run at you with a hatchet. I mean ones more honest. So who is more evil?I think its briliant that many tau fans fall for the propaganda, and that many imperial fans make excuses about tau attrocities despite supporting factions that commit way worse ones. Its hilarious how well the propaganda worked.
>>98190990NTA, but I thought the entire point of the Tau is that they're one of many minor xenos empires out there, but also one of the majorly threatening ones to Imperial loyalty, because they're a progressive, technologically and academically advanced society that isn't full of power-politics and crab-mentality backstabbing.They're tiny in actual size and martial power projection. But the Tau'va is a dangerous infohazard, unlike any other, that the more you know about, the more likely you are to radicalize against the Imperium, regardless of who you are.
>>98190990The tau were uppifted by the eldar. Their tech is reverse engineered eldar leads.
>>98180438See that's what I thought, until I saw this one city sized goat girl with incredibly soft soles behind her hooves...To be honest any toe count between 2 and 8 can work depending on the art style.
>>98191046It's really hard to take seriously the claims that all the bad shit that the Tau Empire does is really all that bad coming from the Imperium, which subjects its own people to even more open violence and gives them even fewer rights.
>>98172527I only know the tau exist because of mechas so yeah, I say gw needs to double down on the mecha
>>98192469>It's really hard to take seriously the claims that all the bad shit that the Tau Empire does is really all that bad coming from the ImperiumLike saying it's really hard to take seriously the claims that all the bad shit that Chaos does is really that bad coming from the Imperium. Lorgar dindu nuffin.
>>98192539It's not like we don't have a pretty good canon picture of what like under the Tau Empire is actually like. People live fine, if they dissent against their government they'll be killed but that was the deal under the Imperium anyway. Between two bad choices, why not pick the less bad?
>>98192562>Between two bad choices, why not pick the less bad?Because it's on the same docket as every other choice that leads you to trusting traitors, insurrectionists, xenos, and other masters that would rather skullfuck you to death for fun than actually help you. The amount of times that decision is going to turn out well is so small it might as well be negligible.
>>98192573That decision seems to be turning out well more times than not for all the humans that have defected to the Tau so far.
>>98192619>for all the humans that have defected to the Tau so far.Except the ones that stepped out of line, or the ones who had their world retaken by the Imperium, or the ones that mistakenly believed a Genestealer Cult was the Tau because not everybody has a book defining the difference between xenos. That's not to mention the fact the Tau Empire is a novelty civilization on the galactic southeastern ass crack of nowhere which is the only reason it hasn't been curbstomped.
>>98192635Except the Tau can learn and improve. The Imperium has been stuck in its ways for ten thousand years, it's not changing anytime soon.
>>98192711>Except the Tau can learn and improveConsidering the dumb fucks sent multi-species expedition into the warp without a gellar field I sincerely question their ability to use their god damned heads.
>>98192635>Tau Empire is a novelty civilization on the galactic southeastern ass crack of nowhere which is the only reason it hasn't been curbstomped.Absolutely true.The imperium, if they brought their might down, could lay waste to the Tau. Wipe the entire empire out. And I mean, it's a growing alien empire on Ultramar's doorstep.But doing so means taking that strength away from other places, and focusing on the Tau. It means turning the wheels of imperial bureaucracy and logistics. Old, creaking, rusted wheels that are likely to snap if you pull too hard. And in doing so, you've turned away from greater concerns in order to crush the Tau. What battlefield doesn't receive reinforcements and resupplies because someone decided the Tau had to die? What agriworld slips out of imperial control because there wasn't a guard regiment there to put down the surfs who started asking why they were starving on a world growing abundant food? What hive world starves because you had to supply food to another battlefield? How many ships are you going to potentially lose in the warp because you decided that these particular aliens needed to be eradicated?The imperium has the power to destroy the Tau, but can't use it without paying a cost that brings to mind a very simple question: is the juice worth the squeeze?And now we come to the paradox of the Tau. The Tau aren't worth the effort to wipe out. But the Tau are growing in size and strength. That gap in might is closing. And as it closes, the opportunity cost of the war grows. In theory, somewhere there is a sweet spot, where the threat of the Tau justifies the level of effort to wipe them out. And the issue might be that the sweet spot might have already come and gone, and now we're moving to a different point - how big can the Tau empire grow before the imperium can't wipe them out? When do the Tau close the power gap enough that it's no longer a question of "can the imperium afford it?" to "can the imperium do it?"
>>98192809Don't forget that they have the Startide Nexus now, which is on the other side of the Cicatrix Maledictum from Terra. So the Tau can expand their empire where the Imperium isn't able to respond.
>>98192800And in doing so basically created a new webway tunnel.The Emperor had to scheme and plot and steal in order to make a device that would MAYBE allow humans to sneak into the webway.Meanwhile the Tau create a drill to build a new webway by accident.
>>98192711this is what i mean by people who fall for the in universe propaganda. They believe in the hopes and futures, instead of the reality of direct evidence. Beautiful.Justice for the Poctroon,
>>98192933But the reality of direct evidence actually is that they can learn and improve.
>>98192800>Considering the dumb fucks sent multi-species expedition into the warp without a gellar fieldWhat do you think humanity did in the early days when they were at the cusp of warp travel?
>>98192947>But the reality of direct evidence actually is that they can learn and improve.Yes tongzhi the Tau always learn and improve. Everyone who says different is going to the gulag.
>>98192952Read the instruction manual, of course!
>>98192952Considering that was before the Fall of the Eldar I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The Warp then was not the Warp as it is now.
>>98190990Problem with Tau isn't that they're better than the Imperium. They're better than everyone. Somehow they're the ones that managed to do what everyone else in the galaxy failed to pull off. Everyone else is either a murder machine or bitter assholes clinging to the scraps of their lost glory. And then there's Tau who just keep on chugging where everyone else failed, because science and communism.
>>98193148Eldar had dominion over the galaxy for millions of years and really only hedonismed out in the last moments.
>>98193148>Problem with Tau isn't that they're better than the Imperium.There is literally no difference except the alleged standard of living, and not all Tau-controlled human worlds are even governed directly by the Tau themselves. Speak out against the government? Dead or imprisoned. Go against the [insert philosophica/religious concept here]? Dead or imprisoned.
>>98192953It literally says right there that he was punished for his callous words. In the same booklet, it shows quotes about the T'au respecting the fuck out of the Vespid.>>98193442Bullshit.What do you mean? Freedom of religion. Mutants and psykers are not persecuted. More personal freedoms. Representation in the government. etc.They are nowhere near as oppressive as the Imperium
>>98193469>questioning the beneficence of exploitative practices>callousand a fine ping pong nip nong to you as well tongzhi>Bullshit.See pic: >>98186489in b4 "GW didn't review any TTRPG books ever and this is non canon reeeee">They are nowhere near as oppressive as the ImperiumNo they just disappear you in the middle of the night instead of blowing your brains out in public with a bolt pistol.
>>98193495>>questioning the beneficence of exploitative practicesThey are not asking of the Vespids what they aren't asking of themselves. >in b4 "GW didn't review any TTRPG books ever and this is non canon reeeee"Not canon dipshit. All GW lore about the Gue'vesa shows that their numbers are increasing exponentially. 20 years of lore and not a single GW or BL novel mentions anything like that. Just mention after mention of Gue'vesa numbers skyrocketting and birthing a Warp God.>No they just disappear you in the middle of the night instead of blowing your brains out in public with a bolt pistol.That's less likely to happen with the Tau. Fucking puritan humans were allowed to roam in a Tau city unmolested in Elemental Council book If Xenos loving humans openly walking in a human city. What would have happened?
>>98193514>They are not asking of the Vespids what they aren't asking of themselves.That's not exactly better. Farsight's view on how the Fire Caste are treated speaks more than I ever could on the matter. The Ethereals exploit them just as they do everyone else.>Not canon dipshit.Cope. You retards convince yourselves that GW doesn't review its licensed TTRPG materials with a cultist's certainty.>20 years of lore and not a single GW or BL novel mentions anything like that.Because they get crypto-communist slugs to write Tau material like Noah Van Nguyen. You should see the blue dick fellating trash fanfiction he writes when he doesn't have GW staring over his shoulder.>Just mention after mention of Gue'vesa numbers skyrocketting and birthing a Warp God.Which promptly disgusts and outrages most of the Tau involved.>Fucking puritan humans were allowed to roam in a Tau city unmolested in Elemental Council bookSee: Noah Van Nguyen crypto-communist slop.
>>98193523>That's not exactly better. Farsight's view on how the Fire Caste are treated speaks more than I ever could on the matter. The Ethereals exploit them just as they do everyone else.Fucking bullshit. Farsight's problem is the Vash'ya issue and the hidden truth behind the Ethereals, not how the Fire Caste is treated. Also fucking Chaos.Furthermore, Farsight grew to understand that the Ethereals actions had good reasons behind them.>Cope. You retards convince yourselves that GW doesn't review its licensed TTRPG materials with a cultist's certainty.Said the guy who never read any FFG book. They are filled with mistakes and errors.It shows that GW never bothered editing them at all. Open Deathwatch: Outer Reach and a Necron codex. Put them side by side and read the Necron lore in both. See how many mistakes and misquotes in it.>Which promptly disgusts and outrages most of the Tau involved.Only the Fourth Sphere. The T'au commander in Death Rider adores the Gue'vesa.The Noah Van Nguyen bit is the true cope.Let me give you another bit from his writing. The T'au let go of the human as an apology for how roughly they had treated the human population.Would the Imperium have done the same? Would they have apologized for brutalizing a population and backed down?No.The whole novel was about showing the difference between the Tau and the Imperium. The plan of the villain was to make the Tau the same as the Imperials.
>>98193514>>98193523Even in elemental council the tau are playing a strategic long game to get more power, Small token concessions is not benevolence. Most worlds that fall to the tau eventually end up with populations that are majority tau. And in the case of Borkan, exclusively tau. Just because they say they're good, Just because they convince the retard ignorant masses of the imperium that their way of life is better. Doesn't mean they're good guys, and you should never frame them as good guys.Now tongue in cheek claiming to be the good guys to piss of imperial fans, yes, I condone that 100%, that's onbrand for tau.But actually being the good guys.... farsight maybe, as long as he doesn't fall... but the rest of the tau, a majority of the tau, are just naive brainwashed followers who commit evil in goods name.
>>98193548>not how the Fire Caste is treated"I believed in the aun. Completely. Every sacrifice I demanded of my cadre on Arkunasha, every drop of blood swallowed by the red sand and every death scream stolen by the red wind: It was all done for the Greater Good [...] They fashioned me into a masterful slave,’ the xenos hissed, ‘a pliable figurehead to bind and blind the fire caste with fool’s glory.’>Open Deathwatch: Outer Reach and a Necron codex. Put them side by side and read the Necron lore in both.As if Necron lore hasn't been retconned ten thousand times.>The Noah Van Nguyen bit is the true cope.Noah the kind of motherfucker to pretend like the Water Caste isn't constantly intercepting, censoring, and redacting every communique in the god damned Empire.>Would the Imperium have done the same?Are you implying this isn't a case-by-case basis decision being made? Vulkan would. An Puritan Inquisitor? Not so much.
>>98193562The fuck are you talking about? The T'au are emptying entire hiveworlds into their core worlds. Elemental Council has talked about how there are so many humans in the Tau Empire that it's affecting the Tau language.The recent lore says that the Tau need for manpower is endless since their low numbers cannot sustain their expansion. They migrate entire alien populations everywhere in their empire which is causing problems like the Greater Good Goddess.They are not good guys but they are the least evil, so good guys after all.
>>98193574>""I believed in the aun. Completely. Every sacrifice I demanded of my cadre on Arkunasha, every drop of blood swallowed by the red sand and every death scream stolen by the red wind: It was all done for the Greater Good [...] They fashioned me into a masterful slave,’ the xenos hissed, ‘a pliable figurehead to bind and blind the fire caste with fool’s glory.’And Phil Kelly said that Farsight grew up and realized that the actions of the Aun had a good reason behind them.>As if Necron lore hasn't been retconned ten thousand times.It's not a fucking retcon. It was in the same edition. The guy writing the FFG book did a shit job copying from the Necron codex and added in fanfiction.>Are you implying this isn't a case-by-case basis decision being made? Vulkan would. An Puritan Inquisitor? Not so much.Vulkan? No. He wouldn't. >Noah the kind of motherfucker to pretend like the Water Caste isn't constantly intercepting, censoring, and redacting every communique in the god damned Empire.Wat
Less cringe fluff debate, more based blueberries.
>>98193596>And Phil Kelly said that Farsight grew up and realized that the actions of the Aun had a good reason behind themRight, right, that's why he ended up fucking off to become a Pirate King.>The guy writing the FFG book did a shit job copying from the Necron codex and added in fanfiction.Anon it's published under license, that means it's not fanfiction. Hell even Noah isn't quite as annoying under license as he is with his actual fanfiction.>Vulkan? No. He wouldn't.Aeldari are one thing, Tau are another, but alright I'll admit that's a fair point to make.>WatGod I fucking hate Noah.
>>98193583I'm talking about Taros, I'm talking about Borkan i.e. the Proctroon homeworld. Being Least evil doesn't make you good. Its all bad. Embrace the evil. Tau become more fun when you do. The fact that you're so die hard to defend the morality of a fictional faction in a universe known to be evil, should make you pause and think for a moment, about the effects of propaganda. you won't but you should.
>>98193583>The T'au are emptying entire hiveworlds into their core worlds. Elemental Council has talked about how there are so many humans in the Tau Empire that it's affecting the Tau languageWhy the fuck aren't Gue'vesa on the tabletop proper yet god damn it
>>98193618>Right, right, that's why he ended up fucking off to become a Pirate King.He literally reconnected with Aun'shi who got him off Arkunasha and both are planning to reform the empire. Did you read "Blade of Truth"?>Anon it's published under license, that means it's not fanfiction. Hell even Noah isn't quite as annoying under license as he is with his actual fanfiction.licensed work =/= canon.Not even the guys making the DoW 4 game are sure that their game is canon. Why are you sure?>God I fucking hate Noah.Huh>>98193621The fuck?The latest Taros lore says that the human population increased under the Tau. The Proctroon is just speculation by you. In modern times, the number of aliens around the Tau Empire is rapidly increasing and its causing problems. The point of the Tau is that they will gradually become as evil as everyone else. If they start off as bad, then it defeats the fucking point.
>>98193636They have appeared in a very recent novel like Death Rider.The Imperials couldn't tell the difference between the Gue'vesa and Fire Warriors because they were wearing the same armor and using the same weapons
>>98187703>women with fat tits and WHATLil poof tried to sneak in noncery lol
>>98193644>and both are planning to reform the empireHehehe, Khorne-touched immortal rebel + Drukhari abducted Ethereal. What could go wrong?>Not even the guys making the DoW 4 game are sure that their game is canon. Why are you sure?Because it's very rare for public-facing fluff to ever portray the Tau doing anything questionable and that annoys the fuck out of me. It makes far more sense that they just keep their indiscretions quiet. Why rock your own boat? The Imperium fucks itself constantly by doing that.
>>98193654>The Imperials couldn't tell the difference between the Gue'vesa and Fire Warriors because they were wearing the same armor and using the same weaponsThat is interesting, because last I remember the Tau were touchy about giving humans access to pulse weapons and such, and instead they relied on prolific STC shit that was already standard before the Tau rolled in. I wonder when they changed their policy?
>>98193683They did. The recent stories have the Gue'vesa using full fire warrior gear + Devilfish transports.In one short story, a Gue'vesa scout was using a Tau railgun.
>>98193693That's cool as fuck. Where's my models GW?
>>98193695The most they will give you is a Kill Team release.
>>98193708Fuck
>>98145778This image sparks joy.>>98145787A tau cows fine too.>>98193583>>98193636>>98193654The grim dark and most interesting bit of the auxiliaries imo is how they’re basically opening up the tau, a race of nigh expressionless bugs on the wall due to the minuteness of their souls granting natural camouflage as far as the immaterial is concerned with 0 psychic potential; to warp shannanigans. It’s basically plotting them for becoming ports of fantasy beast men in their own 40k space empire, since chaos will bless the at least some of their clients species but not the tau, who will just have to contend with the corruption. What will tau due when it becomes vogue for young blueberrues to get septum piercings and sept brands?
>>98193761>What will tau due when it becomes vogue for young blueberrues to get septum piercings and sept brands?I don't know, but what happened to Farsight when he went into a Khornate rage trance was some crazy shit. I never imagined Chaos could affect a Tau like that.
>fruitcups hoping for official kill team that’s just head swaps from the imperial lineWeak>not space blood bowl taumazon cowgirls and cheerleadersPeak
>Tau titty thread>actual discussionSometimes you're not so shit /tg/.
>>98193776Farsight is literally plugged into a demon via his sword isn’t he? Seems pretty grim since the sword and the fat fuck skull-couch crusher obviously don’t care about him despite being probably their most capable champion.If that isn’t beast man tier I don’t know what know what is.
>>98193785Consult the tau’va; ancient tau’va proverb:>through titten monsters: unity, supremacy>through verwirrtes tittenmonster mit fragezeichen: clarity of purpose, enlightenmentTau’va greater learnings, shortstack ascendancy picture books volume 1,
>>98193794>Farsight is literally plugged into a demon via his sword isn’t he?I don't think its origin was ever specified, other than that it's some kind of Xenotech. IMO stealing life from victims sounds distinctly Pre-Biotransference Necrontyr but we don't know.
>>98193778Headswaps aren't good enough, Tau bodies aren't the same as human ones, they're shorter and have hooves. Imagine being the poor Earth Caste fuck that has to design armored boots without ever actually having worn boots.
>>98193864This is why mutants being the primary bulk of guevesa make sense>tau have hooves, they have hooves>tau are hated by the empire, mutants are hated by the empire>cows and goats are both cute farm animalsPlus they both look like they fuck human men.Checkmate corpse worshippers.
>>98193885I'm reluctant to dream that Beastmen will come back as anything other than Tzaangors. They seem to have been consigned to the same fate as Felinids. I tell myself "At least Squats and Genestealer Cults got another chance at life."
>>98193672The imperium does it by design, effectively weaponizing their populous against the heretic, xenos, mutant etc.The brutality isn’t just for fun, even if it is on the ground level sometimes.
>>98193906>doesn’t realize the first blue beastmen where in 40k and just called tauAnd that’s a good thing
>>98193644You'd have to read the areonautica imperialis taros book.
>>98193885> Be a human mutant> Seen as less than trash, suffer all your life> Tau take power> "At least you have proper hooves, not those weird feet thing!"> Suddenly you are respected, perhaps as high as a second grade citizen!> Complete confusion
>>98193976right up until the day your horns start coming in and you grow a third eye, then shit's not so funny anymore you ever wonder how the Tau deal with Chaos Spawn?
>>98193979Just another cast of the auxiliaries. Tau have yet to correlate 13/50.>”there has been a sharp rise in spawn’vesa amongst the plurality of lessers…”>*shrugs*> *goes back to enjoying wealth and prosperity sphere charts go up, Gue’vesa music, and killer kroot delicacies*
>>98193976Tau being an actually successful appealing inversion of fantasy is amazing. Especially when you can have both side by side and no one the wiser.
>>98193961That snippet is from the book.
>>98193785>>98193838The TAU'VA WILLS IT!
>>98194047Genestealer detected
>>98194035I must have misread the multiply part. But the end of the taros imperial armor book has the tau consolidating power by bringing colonist in. So I must have mixed the two together knowing that colonist had got to t'ros and then when i read it years ago it melded the two. anyways, what ever keep ignoring borkan.
>>981941301 speculative example VS numerous mentions of aliens and humans rapidly increasing in numbers across the Tau Empire. On top of the Tau requiring an endless flow of workers and soldiers to offset their low numbers. Your argument is as bad as your reading comprehension.
>>98194135>ignore the evidence>downplay its importance>Pretend it'll never happen againwhatever. Look people in 40k fight for all stupid reasons, people multiply and fight for the imperium, it doesn't mean the imperium is good. People multiply and fight for the Tyranids. so no. I don't think your reasons justify any moral justifications for the tau's imperialism. The tau could just as easily work with other races without having to assume a 1st among equals status. but they will fight you if you deny it. And yet you call them good. You're a retard.
>>98194151again better =/= good. Calling yourself good, does not make you good, when you're placed next to an axe murderer. That's not how it works.
>>98194151Again, your argument is shit. You have one speculative example that happened centuries ago from the present of the setting, maybe thousands of years or more vs tons of examples of humans living happily in the Tai empire and multiplying. Dipshit. The point is to refute that the Tau are aiming to be the majority. That's not feasible for them. If the Tau lower their allied races numbers it would collapse their empure since according to GW the Tau require their allied races to survive. What you said in that reply is a non-sequitur. You are low IQ.
>>98194182nah you're right, The tau are completely honest about being good guys.
>>98194268There is absolutely no evidence that hints at their sinister nature
>>98194273nothing at all
>>98194282they aren't evil
>>98194287There has only ever been one instance of tau behaving poorly
>>98194291
>>98194295The tau don't practice racial biases, nor do they forcibly resettle peoples who peacefully joined the greater good. >>98194295Working in a sweatshop for aliens is good actually.
>>98194299forgot my picAnyways, I think i made my point.There's more than just 1 snippet that points to the darkness within the tau.And you're just blinded by propaganda to see it.Most of these snippets come from the fucking codex.
>>98145778the tau are actually super popular, possibly the most popular xenos by a fair margin
>>98194304>>98194295>>98194287>>98194282>>98194273>>98194268None of this is bad. Notice it says cultural dominance but not numerical or racial dominance. >>98194304This is the weakest one.During the Second Sphere Expansion, the Damocles Crusade purged all the human worlds that the Tau had assimilated. They culled or enslaved the allied human population. This shows that the Tau learned and are protecting the humans in case of a sudden reversal by relocating them to their core worksAnd you know what's funny? The Imperium nuked the space around Ksi-M'Yen burning the system into when the burned the whole gulf. The Tau were wise to relocate the humans
>>98194371>This is the weakest oneI stand by my previous point that you are a retard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing>it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return
>>98194392We see where the Tau have taken the humans from Agrellan and Ksi-m-yen. It's Dal'yth Prime. The humans describe the sept world as a paradise and they get free health care, free housing, free education from the social programs. It's better than living in a shithole waiting for an Imperial counterattack to come, which it did by the way.The humans are shown to be happy.
>>98194047Kill yourself ND
>>98193616>T'ua
>>98194400>Describe>Shown>etc.exactly the point. The tau love their propaganda, can you trust them at their words, We know they have aliens that pacify and numb people, and we also know they have mind control worms, we also know they have propaganda that deliberately hides their loses so they can appear stronger. and so of course they would have some loyal followers who would say anything, or do anything or whatever. Either they can mind control them, or in reality there are some such fanatical believers, As you say the tau are the best option for a regular person (again this does not make them a good option, just a better option). And so it makes sense that there would be die hard loyalist gue'vesa.But that does not make them good people as a whole. There are good tau. but the Tau are not good.
>>98194422Funny thing. In the same author's works, guess what: an Inquisitor describes life in Tau-controlled worlds. The Tau eliminated diseases and infant mortality. Upgraded the living standard. Etc. They made the world better.The Inquisitor goes on to say that the T'au are dangerous because they understand humans more than the Imperial rulers.There is another Inquisitor in another series who says basically the same thing.So don't half-ass deny it in the greentext. The Tau are the least evil faction in the setting; therefore, they are good guys.
>>98194435I like how you reference the other work which I have already posted in this thread.>>98191046As if I didn't fucking already use it for my point.>The Tau are the least evil faction in the setting; therefore, they are good guys.Again. Least evil does not equate to Good.And you're an idiot for thinking that way. And I'll stand by this 100% that you're retarded.
>>98194457That's not what I am referring to.I am referring to the Inquisitor from the Farsight novels, you bakayuro. She lived among the Gue'vesa for centuries.Your arguments are so shit because you never read any Tau lore beyond what someone is spoonfeeding you.
>>98194461What about in that kids novel when the ethereal orders the one tau to commit suicidewhat about the fire caste novel where the tau use all sorts of deceptions and lies to get humans to kill each other, promising redemption but really it was just a meat grinderWhat about elemental council where the whole issue is that their rigid caste system is a weakness that's exploited due to their blind loyalty to a cause they don't truly understand and it takes a group of 4 misfit heroes to figure it out. what about that oft memed example of Cato Killing that water caste diplomat. Sure she was challenging the space marine, but she was also reaching for a fucking gun.No man, I've given plenty of evidence. You're the one who keep's their eyes blind to believe the ethereal propaganda. Like I said, I love the tau because their propaganda works so well. Insidious evil.
>>98194478>What about in that kids novel when the ethereal orders the one tau to commit suicideThat doesn't happen in Warhammer Adventures. The kids encounter a Tau mobster who escaped from the empire.>what about the fire caste novel where the tau use all sorts of deceptions and lies to get humans to kill each other, promising redemption but really it was just a meat grinderThe world was a dumping ground by the Imperials and Tau Empire for individuals that both empires considered problematic. Basically, both sides wanted their war criminals to kill each other,>What about elemental council where the whole issue is that their rigid caste system is a weakness that's exploited due to their blind loyalty to a cause they don't truly understand and it takes a group of 4 misfit heroes to figure it out.It's the morality of the Greater Good that allowed them to thwart the villain.>what about that oft memed example of Cato Killing that water caste diplomat. Sure she was challenging the space marine, but she was also reaching for a fucking gun.Numitor and Cato barged into her home. You don't want her to defend herself using her skill set against a monster in her living room?You don't love the Tau. From example one, I know that you didn't read the Farsight series.
>>98194501I didn't read the farsight series because phil kelly is a trash author. I have them, I just can't bear to get through them because they're droll. But even then Farsight is constantly tested. and I never said all tau are evil, Farsight is objectively one of the few good characters in the setting. Anyways the final point I want to make is I'm not saying your dudes are evil. They can be good. I'm saying the empire as a whole is an institution of oppressions. it works, but it should always be better. You shouldn't see yourself as the best and then stop there, You should always be better. So labeling the tau empire good, when it commits so many atrocities (just framed in good ways) is just silly.The fact that you're willing to excuse fictional warcrimes makes me laugh. I enjoy them for what they are. But I do get so concerned when people like you are so willing to bat for fictional warcrimes. we're talking about a setting where people like night lords for fucks sake, nobody is going to think any different of you for liking a faction that has done a little warcimes. its kind of a 40k tradition to commit warcrimes. I personally embrace the warcrimes. Its a lot more fun. Since its fictional nobody gives a shit. Why the fuck do you care that everyone has the consensus that the tau are good guys. Who are you Aun'va?
>>98194526>So labeling the tau empire good, when it commits so many atrocities (just framed in good ways) is just silly.Uh, that's kind of hollow damnation when every faction save maybe the Craftworld Eldar do much worse with far more regularity.
>>98194526Look. I am a regular here. Read the Farsight books and then come to me. Otherwise, this is boring for me. You are making it too easy.
>>98194553Again, I agree that other faction does worse. I'd even say eldar does worse.That doesn't make them good. If the tau evaluated all of our species based on your intelligence we'd all be asteroid miners.
>>98194577this is like saying read about the eldar to see how good the dark eldar are.
>>98194583>That doesn't make them good.I mean, objectively it does...
>>98194591Farsight is a member of the Tau Empire in all his books except the last one.
>>98194600Not really, Also fun fact about blue is that I wrote her back story. If you want to confirm this just compare the actual backstory to this original post and you'll see all my retarded spelling habits and reddit spacing and overt use of parentheses. So the guy saying he's a regular hereLOL. anyways, thanks for posting her, it makes me smile every time i see her.
>>98194666I'm actually a different Anon...
>>98194682I know, I replied to you because you posted blue and appreciated that.I was just referencing this post>>98194577>Look. I am a regular hereIts just a dumb way to try to win an argument
>>98194733Me again.The argument has already been won on my side by the fact that you are ignorant and can't argue your points.See >>98194526>>98194478That's a pretty suspicious description of the novels, especially the first example. So you are not fooling anyone.Go read the books and come back.
>>98194745Your argument is the Tau do shady shit and therefore cannot be considered good, but objectively from the settings standards and possibly even real life they are moral grey at worst.
>>98191046>I mean ones more honest. So who is more evil?I 100% prefer the guy tricking me with better living conditions over the guy being 'honest' and smacking me in the face with an axe.
>>98194745lol, Lmao, again, Nothing in those books will change what I already believe based on what i've read. Also I'm not trying to change your mind. I gave up on that long ago. I just love calling a spade a spade. and People who excuse evil in the name of good are retards. Also its ironic that you want me to read the farsight books while also questioning my story on the ethereal ordering someone to kill themselves, When I googled it I was wrong and the snippet I remember is from Farsight Crisis of Faith.
>>98194758No wrong, His argument is that tau are good.My argument is that the tau are morally grey and should not be called morally good. Good is just their branding. And they're good at it, greater good at it actually. I love my tau being evil. My tau are pragmatic 4th sphere vets, They are lost on the other side of the galaxy and because of their low numbers they love using gue'vesa. Its just they like to use MKultra style programing and communion helms to get the most out of their gue'vesa
>>98194806But you haven't read anything.
>>98194600Kill yourself ND, and quit sullying those characters by posting them
Tau = cow/thread
>>98194841>My argument is that the tau are morally grey and should not be called morally good.They are the morally lightest faction in the setting... They are by default the most morally good.>>98194871>quit sullying those characters by posting them>Literally praised by one of the Anons who came up with Da Blue Grot for posting her
>>98195396I never disagreed with this statement though>They are by default the most morally good.I've agreed constantly that they're the most morally good.Just that, even if they are the most morally good faction, that doesn't make them morally good.Just be cause A murderer is more morally good than a murderer rapist, doesn't make the murderer a good person.
>>98195405>Just be cause A murderer is more morally good than a murderer rapist, doesn't make the murderer a good person.Except if everyone is a Murder Rapist, the Murderer has the moral high ground...I hold pretty much the exact opposite view of the setting, where everyone, even CHAOS, can be the "Good guys".Not just the "Protagonist", but the actual Heroes.I'm fine with you wanting evil as shit Tau, but as a whole they are the most morally upstanding faction in the setting.
>>98195412Oh I agree, And I think there's plenty of morally good characters in warhammer. But I think warhammer as a setting is best when no blanket faction can ever be called good.to me the core aspect of warhammer is that every faction is evil, and everyone is badass, so that every battle is your badasses vs their evil dudes. I'm perfectly fine being the heel. I'm not even playing a human faction. So I don't need to win any morality contest.If I was in the 40k universe of course i'd head to the tau empire, but If I was in reality, we'll I'm glad the tau are fictional. But again this whole conversation just comes back to>>98191046>I think its briliant that many tau fans fall for the propaganda,That just because the tau present themselves as the best of worst, people are willing to forgive actual warcrimes, and I believe that's beautiful because it's perfectly inline with how I perceive the tau based on a common theme about deception and propaganda. To me this is top tier satire. Living satire.
>>98195450>That just because the tau present themselves as the best of worst, people are willing to forgive actual warcrimes, and I believe that's beautiful because it's perfectly inline with how I perceive the tau based on a common theme about deception and propaganda.>To me this is top tier satire. Living satire.It's not though.Sure, in any other setting the Tau would be dogmatic villains, but being the best of the worst makes them the best you get.It's relativistic morality, but the setting does not give you the option of some kind of absolute morality.
>>98195668You're thinking in the setting.But we're not in the setting in relativistic reality to us the tau are evil, so saying they're good is wrong. Only within the confines of the setting can you argue that they are more good. but relatively to us they are evilKeep trying.
>>98195676>but relatively to us they are evilBuddy, if you think how the Tau act are EVIL, I've got some bad news for you about how real governments work...
>>98195725I also think most real governments are evil.I don't get your point. If anything believing the tau are good guys means you probably believe america are good guys. or believe other bullshit government or ideological propaganda bullshit.Look I'm just saying, you have to call shit what it is. anythign else is being a propaganda mouthpiece. And i love that so many tau players love being useful idiots for fucking fictional aliens.
>>98195785>I also think most real governments are evil.Ah, so you are a simpleton...
>>98195799No just pragmatic. Most people in government are just doing jobs. However how many people were complicit in evil because they were just doing jobs. also most politicians become politicians because they want power. They want to change the world and want the power to do so. Lust for power is definitely evil.so I dunno. I don't think I'm a simpleton, I just don't trust bearucrats who care more about law than reality and I don't trust people who will say anything for power.Anyways we can always do better and we need to be critical of our institutions in order to ensure that they are always better. So no you're an idiot who thinks institutions can be "good"Fucking retards and their black and white morality and everything needs to be extremes.
>>98195828>Fucking retards and their black and white morality and everything needs to be extremes.Pot meet kettle...
>>98195835I made this handy chart. Notice america is near centerline, but still evil. Then you have Nazi germany, Then you have the tau empire.So while yes, The tau are the good guys of 40k.No they are not good.
>>98195854>Puts the Tau below America on his Morality Chart
>>98195876You do make a very compelling argument as to why the tau should be ahead of America.Still not on the good side.
>>98194682You're not an anon at all ND. Amd you should really kill yourself NOW.
>>98195396>>Literally praised by one of the Anons who came up with Da Blue Grot for posting herAnd I wrote a shitton of writefaggotry for Da Scraplootas and came up with Grotocracy and Threegrot among other things and it makes me sick every time I see your filthy, retarded pornsick faggotry attached to Blue.Are you gonna stop using her now?
>>98195945And you should PUT TITS ON IT!
>>98195828You're arguing with someone who thinks men can become women, that genocide is based so long as women do it, and that children can and should consent to sex. He also tried to kill his mom. You're wasting your breath m8
>>98195980>that children can and should consent to sexWhen the FUCK did that get added to your list?!
>>98195980I mean its obvious they're a turbo retard. Don't worry I'm enjoying myself. It may surprise you to know, it certainly surprised my doctor, but i'm not actually autistic.
>>98196097Funny how quickly you change tack after your appeal to perceived authority failed.
>>98196096>rape little boysWhere the fuck are you even getting that?!>It's some real Norman Bates tier Oedipus Complex shit my guyNot exactly, while I am very much a man-child mamma's boy, the incident in question was entirely an accident.One that I'd actually been fretting would happen, thus trying to derive dark humor from the fact that dropping 100 lbs of cabinetry on her was something she basically just walked off.>>98196502What change?Someone just came in here screaming that I should kill myself.Doesn't change the fact that by default, the Tau are the most moral faction in 40k.
>>98145778I thought I was in /v/ for a sec.
>>98196519I'm not screaming, I'm calmly telling you that the entire world would be better off if you killed yourself. Your mom would be safer without your attempts on her lifeLittle boys would be safer without you trying to groom them into "girls" on discordAnd most importantly, /tg/ would be marginally better without you shitting it up.
>>98197673You are constantly responding to threads just to tell me to kill myself, out of delusional beliefs that would quiet frankly make you sound obsessed and insane.That kind of contribution is, at best, no better than the reviled Bumpfag, the same quality of posts as "Work on your Art", "Have you tried not playing D&D" and "Traditional Games?"
>>98195854Move the Nazis to between Imperium and chaos and you're accurate.
>thread is just an avatar fag and a retarded Redditor spammingbig titty blueberries and mecha, but with such a cringe fan base… gw is a cursed
>>98195854>I made a chart in MS paint about ranking morality of real and imagined nations, and it agrees with me. Respect it as inviolate authority.Holy fucking shit you are a stupid person.
>>98199044I think stupid people are people who think things can just be labeled good or evil, and that in reality goodness is a constant struggle. And to me that's what the tau represent a constant struggle. They aren't good, But they are trying their best.I'm not the idiot. The other guy was. Also you because you competely miss the point in order to bitch and whine.
