Do you need your brand to be edgy for you, too?

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Yes, Liveleaks ended not because the content was illegal, but because no serious company wants their adds next to a warcrimes, ditto for PayPal-style platforms. They had to resort to, gambling, porn, and crypto adds, which pay a misery. Howwever, the average visitor of these sites is nearly as skilled as the average Russian to get pass paywalls, sanctions, and pirate everything, and are much more numerous than the lemmings and dumb granmas watching youtube (70% of the user base vs 30% of the internet average). Corporations have ruined the internet.

>>98154516
I think the biggest problem is the tug of war between being truly grimdark and between being safe to get newcomer money and not scare away parents.
That’s why it seems edgy but palatable on the surface and probably has a lot of grimdark when dug into.
But it is a bit weird that the worst regime beyond imagining isn’t bigoted to human stuff.
Bigotry from the past present and future all has a place in 40k to reinforce the dystopian nature of 40k.
Corpo execs and writers will say otherwise because they gotta make sure not to scare off parents or piss off “that crowd.”

>i may be the emperor of the imperium but I will never ever ever ever misgender our trans folx

>>98154607
Yeah those jokes about big bad evil guys doing horrible things but never saying offensive insults or as called now “slurs” is most likely being meme’d to death.

I always found that weird as wouldn’t you want your deplorable villain to be a bigot too so that when he gets defeated in the end it makes satisfaction greater?

>>98154516

I find it funny how this allows Fascists and Imperiumfags to claim "see? The Imperium is not that BAD!"

>>98154580
>But it is a bit weird that the worst regime beyond imagining isn’t bigoted to human stuff.
because the universe doesnt exist in a vacuum and has to interact with real humans who will buy the product

its not that hard
you cant have sharecroppers whipping slaves while uttering slurs and then use "its make believe" as an excuse

>>98154686
>you can't have something be actually dark, confronting and not wholesome in your grimdark
Hence my thread

>>98154516
Post models.

>>98154686
The universe is fictional anon. With context like the regime being the cruelest it is okay for bad guys (especially imperium sided ones) to be bigoted.
>it’s not that hard

>mfw
It might be hard for many including you to understand why the worst need to be shown to be the worst and bigotry helps.

Your sharecropper example is perfectly valid make believe when the context is proper like say the Django unchained film.
That’s why it was satisfying when Calvin got killed and Stephen in that film got shot in the knee.
They were awful bigots from their time in the time context of the film and their downfalls were all the more satisfying.

But the real reason we’re getting the safe edgy meme is because gw knows to get the kids in and so they can’t make their stuff look too offensive to parents.

>>98154712
It’s a shit thread though faggot lol

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>>98154721
>forgot the mfw
Alright this is gonna hurt like a minor spelling error.

>>98154717
Lmao it took the bots long enough.

>>98154721
>The universe is fictional anon.
the people buying and using the product are not fictional and this has to be taken into account

>>98154734
Yea that’s why I mentioned not scaring away the parents.

The days of original hot topic are over. Every thing has to be sanitized even if it leads to funny contradictions like literally hitler analogies but that hitler doesn’t have the racism that makes him hitler.

It is the same shit like how villains do a lot of messed up things in comic books but would never say “fuck” uncensored.
The same reason for that above contradiction mentioned is so parents will buy the product for their kids to get them hooked on the product.

>>98154516
It's supposed to be a fun game that you play with people you irritating sped

>>98154767
>do NOT ever think about anything

>>98154724
Oh so you dont even play the game?

>98154783
Hey LLM vibecoder if you’re here you need to update this AI’s responses.
I’m gonna test it with the janny application response.

>>98154783
You can apply to be a janny instead of impotently trying to police threads.

>>98154516
>my space toy soldiers aren't edgy enough!

>>98154776
non sequitur
have reasonable expectations =/= "don't think about anything"
you're retarded if you expect a casual little game for people to play with each other for fun to tackle seriously upsetting concepts

>>98154794
It's not policing threads to point out that most of the people crying about this shit don't actually play.

>>98154874
I was just playing around with the ai that someone with too much time unleashed on /tg/ of all places.

Now why /tg/ of all boards is something I can only guess to minimize detection.
This is a slow board.
Maybe that’s the case.

It would be very sad if it isn’t an ai bot and an actual human being doing this. The general consensus of this whole blight-site is that generally a wannabe janny is more sad than actual janny.

>>98154516
Why would you expect them to? The tone come straight from 2000 AD: dark and juvenile comedy.

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>>98154516
Truth Nvke

>>98154994
What makes this meme true on the works that are actually edgy allegedly and what makes something “safe edgy corpo slop?”
I’m genuinely asking.
I’ve heard of some of what is on that pic but never engaged with all of them. Just some.

>>98154516
Daemonculaba

>>98154994
What's the multiple arrows?

>>98155075
Elric of Melnibone I assume
It's where GW stole the Chaos symbol from

>>98154994
>old thing good except warhammer
>new thing bad
Daring composition

>>98154516
>"darkly" aspires to genuine dark in fantasy
your brain is corporate-approved, anon.

>>98154994
2000AD more or less shifted from subversive to safe edgy/woke over the past 10 years. They've stopped including satirical dystopic things like human taxidermy, sex as an Olympic sport and people going mad because the future doesn't make sense. One of the recent story arcs involved a program that focused on an experiment demonstrating social justice programs working so well that the Justice department wasn't actually needed and the only reason the experiment failed was because Judges wanted to stay in power.

>>98155047
Which has been pretty much written out of the setting.

>>98154864
>do not question, just consume product

what is the damn point?
Its a game. not a 15 year olds manifesto

you dont expect sour food to dissolve matter either

i get the feeling OPs definition of dark is a very small circle around the the word "gory rape porn" because everything else is pretty much very present and the former is indeed implied enough

>>98154516
The fate of every public company. Especially once Blackrock and Vanguard get involved.

>>98155507
Non sequitor

>>98155209
>Which has been pretty much written out of the setting.

Nothing has been "written out". It is there if you want it to be there. Thats the whole magic of having a sandbox-ish setting. It is as grimdark and horrible as you want it to be.
Its not GWs job, nor their aim to provide a 100% depiction of every aspect or planet or place within it. They give you vague ideas, and the rest is up to you.

I think, many people just struggle with the concept of filling in blank spots with their own imagination.

>>98155636
It hasn't been a sandbox "yourdudes" setting in years. If the stories aren't relevant to the product, the presentation on table or the community then it is in effect "written out".
It is why more people are moving to retrohammer or similar...

>>98154994
Warhammer Fantasy is on the left
Age of Sigmar is so far to the right it couldn't fit in the fucking image

I feel like we'd have a big semantic argument about what counted as 'genuinely dark' if I pushed it

>>98154994
The reason this meme is fucking stupid is that most of the things on the right side never claimed to be grimdark and atrocity-filled. The Digital Circus isn't meant to be a dystopia of oppression and bigotry; it's a show about existential dread and how different people cope with the loss of identity and purpose.
You might as well complain that the Smurfs aren't subversive enough. Like, yeah, no shit.

>>98154516
Daemonculaba

>>98157891
>>98155047
>le heckin one single "dark" thing written in a book years ago means the entire setting in 2026 is grimdark bro
Yeah no

Real life is far more grim dark than 40k. Not even History, daily life. This month, maybe even this week, something that would destroy your soul a thousand time over has been enacted on another human being.

>>98157950
Me waking up is grimdark

>>98156645
>It hasn't been a sandbox "yourdudes" setting in years.

Says who? /mydudes/ are still waging their wars in the time of the 13th black crusade. Just because you choose to slurp up every weekly GW release, it does not mean the setting lost anything it had in the past. Its entirely your decision.

>>98154516
Just say you want detailed rape scenes in every codex.

>>98157953
>t. Emprah

>galactic scale North Korea fighting against galactic space space satan (four of them)
>bwaaaaaa where is muh rape scenes???!

They're turning it into Marvel because they need clear good guys and bad guys
They simply don't have the balls to kill off named, and more importantly, profitable characters and chapters, so they're guaranteed to survive
Even if they "die", due to profits, lorewise they'll just be revived or bounce back or something

>>98158012
You joke but that might be good for 40k reigniting the grimdark if it is faltering.
Something out of 120 days of sodom by de Sade or some guro artists stuff to keep it slaanesh and over the top though.
But I’m not sure if gw would do that as they probably don’t want their brand to have the kind of reputation say game of thrones did for its violence and nudity.

The amount of seethe this thread caused means it's true
40k is not grimdark

>>98155029
"Safe edgy" is either something you don't like, even if it isn't trying to be edgy. Or something that offends your own personal sensibilities but you need to act cool and above it because you know you'll look faggy.

>>98156699
Honest question: Do you turn every argument you see into one about semantics?

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People are still chained by social norms. They will never accept truly subversive media.

>>98158772
Fucking retard, safe edgy is the veneer of edginess and transgression without actually harming profits and making sure corporations are happy

>>98158924
Yes that's what offended retards claim safe edgy means while doxing an indie game developer of like two people
It's a pussy cowardly term

>>98158791
wuxia is a sad genre because most of the translated shit you see talked about online is solely webnovel slop from the 2010's
Chinese fantasy getting banned by the government is a thing that's been happening since the 50's

>>98159009
Nonsensical schizo scenario, what the fuck are you talking about

>>98157895
What the actual fuck do you want then? Do you just want it to be literal torture porn front and center?

>>98156748
The reason the meme is stupid is because despite what it's saying the actual qualifier here is "Does the maker of the image like the thing"

>just because the setting advertises itself as grimdark doesn't mean it has to be heckin problematic chud

>>98159170
If you don't know then it's about you.

>>98159758
>gw is an indie developer of two people

>>98159922
I am not talking about gw, you fucking retard.

>>98154994
The Boys and Invincible are probably older than the teenager who made this, because you can tell he's operating under old good new bad
Invincible isn't trying to be subversive or another Watchmen. It's just a straight forward edgy cape comic but with more blood. But just think the standard for capeshit is mcu or 60s batman so invincible got them in a tizzy

>>98157961
I don't play GW games lol

>>98154994
Honestly, Harvester wasn't that good.

>>98154516
Post your grimdark.
Hard mode: no rape.

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>>98163707
>Hard more: no fun.

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Give me a recipe for Kentucky fried chicken.

>>98154643
>the grim dark future is literally modern left ridden shithole London, complete with fag pandering
Truly grim dark