Previous: >>98148346Ur-Dragon Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's the MOST popular commander you actually play?
Post decks>>98157017>TQ: What's the MOST popular commander you actually play?Tifa Lockhart
>>98157017>TQAccording to EDHrec, it's Gor Muldrak lmao
I got a question here boysif I use a "this creature isnt legendary" clone to copy mysterio are their illusions tied to any mysterio that dies or is it on a per mysterio basis?
>>98157370Per Mysterioshows how much a flop Spider-Man was, I didn't even know this existed and thought "weird this is in Marvel instead of Spider-Man
Hah that lil baby nigga gonna come in and say shan't isn't he
>>98157387thats kinda coolI'm thinking about making a non-legendary clones style deck and just spamming mysterio tokens
Mail drop bros
>>98157429That's a nice Dromoka
>>98157130
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98157130>TQ Still Breya
>>98157553I feel like you are only running Sphinx of the Steel Wind for style points.
My friend wants to trade me his ungraded, but excellent condition Gaea's Cradle for one of my unopened base set pokèmon packs and an unopened fossil pokèmon pack. Should i weigh the packs and give him the lighter one or let him choose between the base set packs? Is it even a good trade? I still play edh, he does not. I bought a badlands off of him a few years ago.Pic unrelated, swords to plowshares i got autographed like a month ago.
>>98157644The cradle up for trade
I have a sinking feeling Thor is gonna end up on the game changers list
>>98157694>contextually better terror of the peaks in most decks that run red without the tribal bonus or pseudo wardits not doing shit
>shanty back
>every commander has partnerSo uh what's gonna be the most broken combo for this event?
>>98157429Absolutely based Dromoka alt. Good selection, sir.
>Retrofitted Savage she-hulk art onto a card called Sensetional She-Hulk just to avoid putting Byrne art on a cardSuck my dick, WOTC.
Anyone playing in the pride event this week?
>>98157729Your favorite guy + your second most favorite guy sounds broken as fuck.
>>98157729Tifa Lockhart/Kediss seems strong.
>>98157750No. Also, I want some new Pride Across the Multiverse short stories that might annoy any chuds ITT.
>>98157616>Sphinx of the Steel Wind
>>98157644I would honestly go for the cash for high value stuff like that
>>98157780I am on the base set pokèmon pack end and he is willing to trade the cradle for base set+fossil packs. You twlling me to get cash for the packs?
>>98157837Yes. Unless you REALLY want to run a real Gaea's Cradle in a deck.
>>98157705>wincon in any red deck>generates value letting you upgraded flashback instants and sorceries in the gravehe isnt even absurdly costed like a 7 or 8 he does his shit at FIVE mana
>>98157750No because that's fucking gay
Anyone have other suggestions for who to paste Malenia over? I've found a couple that seem pretty fitting.Just making card skins for myself and some friends.
>>98157903Yeah he's a pretty busted and overpushed "goes in every red deck with noncreature spells" card. Terror of the Peaks without the tribal requirement and stapled on ETB value just because. The power level of this slop UB set is almost inspiring me to go to prerelease and buy a play box, but I will remain strong and ignore these urges.
>>98157965*forgot to add that on top of this all, he's a 5/5 flyer for 5 mana.
>>98157960I play Licia and she's pretty fun. I was actually considering making a proxy of her with Carmilla from the Castlevania show, though I haven't found too much great art. Malenia fits very well from a visual perspective, but I've never played Elden Ring so I can't say from a lore perspective.
>>98157960I think Licia fits her better
>>98157903>he does his shit at FIVE manaActually he doesn't. If you drop him for 5 mana raw he does nothing. You need to have extra mana for something else or a free spell set up to make him bolt something. Anon is correct this is just Terror of the Peaks for spells instead of creatures. Probably still strong in the right deck
>>98158020>If you drop him for 5 mana raw he does nothing>Until the end of your next turnESL?
>>98158020no he does that shit at his 5 manaat 5 mana he presents the threat, even if you get rid of him you still get the better flashbackand you dont need to wait for any upkeeps or end steps to get his valuecard is 100% the best card in the entire set
>>98158057I think MODOK claims that spot. Thor is obviously great but MODOK is absurd value.
>>98157644>should I trade my lottery tickets for fifteen benjamins?idk you tell me
>>98158085the modok isnt going to be an insta include in every black deckthor is for every red edh deck
>>98158129Yes the fuck it is, it's Griselbrand for babies
>>98158129Thor doesn't do much for creature-focused red decks, Modok draws cards for all black decks
>>98158057>card is 100% the best card in the entire setI guarantee there is going to be more and stronger busted powercrept bullshit in this set, probably Wakanda associated characters like Shuri, or Hulkling and Wiccan.
>>98158156youre going to be sorely disappointed when your "griselbrand" hits you for 6 life, and gets you two cardsgriselbrand is 7 life 7 cards 7 power liflink unconditional instant speed effectmodok is 21 life for 7 cards, and conditional +1+1 counters for its 2/2 base stats lifelink for an effect you can only use on your turnthat shit is not going to be ran in MOST black decks let alone all of them>>98158164unless your deck consists of only creatures Thor will get you value, it effects all your mana rocks, it works with your chaos warp and tibalts trickery, it just does shit
>>98158129I just don't see that Thor having that much value in every red deck. In combo heavy ones sure but not in something creature heavy for one at least. That Modok is just pay life draw on and on while filling up your grave. It doesn't even have the usual only as a sorcery limit. It's a hell of a hand cycling deck digging tool.
>>98158180you dont see the mana value in a guy that turns all of your noncreatures into potential removal and the added bonus of being able to hit the face?I have like 6 red decks and he is taking a slot in every single one because that effect is so generically useful>my deflecting swat bolts your face btwmodok is not a card you can slot into any black deck, some that have reanimator or lifegain strategies sure but not just any black deckthor goes in all red decks period
>be lazy borderline slob>have all amounts of random tcg cards laying arond my house in random spots>just found a full alt art Ghalta just laying on my side table downstairs>35 dollar card Gotta get my shit together
>>98158175Yes, I already said he's Griselbrand for babies. Modok's not as good because nothing ever will be again, but drawing seven+ cards essentially for free depending on how risky you're feeling is still huge.
We love our legendary zombies don't we
>new dwarves from Hobbit set>new equip stuff from Marvel>always wanted an actual dwarf deck that's not Magda>already have an equipment deck >would have to fill this deck with staple equip slop to make it even remotely playable Should I do it?
>>98158087I was going to weigh the packs and trade the lower weight base set pack+ fossil pack which according to what i saw is about 1300 and my lgs has a cradle in the case for 1600. They are not shadowless or first edition packs, just a base set unlimited and a fossil unlimited pack. Also, i know he intends on opening the packs. I would like a gaeas cradle, and i bought my secondary fun car for less than 1600. I would rather spend any cash on car stuff than magic.
>>98158236>playing Boros equipmentPlease tell me yall don't actually do this
>>98158212calling him griselbrand is as stupid as calling loki madu
>>98158255>pay life>receive cards
>>98157960Too bad there's no fitting poison counter commanders
>>98158129I wouldn't play Thor in any of my red decks
Yay more token slop!
>>98158020He's fine but he's just a really slow snappy and a better guttersnipe. Vivi is far stronger for example. MODOK is free value, literally Ad Naus in the cz with gy upside. Reanimator combo wet dream.
>>98158300What did you expect squirrels to do?
how do we feel about him bros?
>>98157017>I le advertised my furry porn in the OP again OwOFake and gay thread. Shan't use.
>landslop
>>98158320Five mana for yet another look at top of library, play land, card doesn't seem good and all he does is make a token
>>98158194I think it's Thor being a five cost that is getting me. It feels like a lot of mana for only the first flashback like effect. I think of my own experiences with things like Caldera Pyremaw or Sentinel Tower and see how without some kind of infinite mana or a setup to drop several cheap spells in one shot, I feel Thor could end up similarly. But I could also just not be seeing the lines.
>>98158320No additional land per turn makes him weaker than Oracle of Mul Daya and Case of the Locked Shithouse. I like the art but unless you're absolutely desperate for redundancy there are just better options.
>>98158326what about the old tried and true poison slop mixed with a little deathtouch slop?
Shanty said the thing shanty said the thing he said it he really said it. Get ready for the melty welty!
>no Ghost RiderAnother powercrept UB set and my favorite character's not even in it. That and Black Widow is just exalted support dog shit.
>>98158379We're on day 2 of spoilers and they've clearly tried to stuff almost every non-X-men character possible into the set, I'd give it a few days
>>98158379If Fing Fang Foom can get a card I'm sure Ghost Rider will get one
>>98158248Nonsense, I play UR equipments like a true gentleman
How viable is she for bracket 3 maybe 4 play? Shoving as many enchantments in my deck as possible and casting/recasting/blinking her to "draw" a shitload of cards SOUNDS amazing, but I've never seen her really played or talked about.
>>98158396what about the giant chinese egg character whose name I do not know
>>98158389>>98158396>>98158379I read somewhere months back they went out of their way to say Ghost Rider isn't going to be in the set, I think for some legal reason
>>98158279Yeah, it was either try to find something similar to Rot Goddess mode or go for her physical Blade of Miquella side with the lifelink and such >>98158004Lorewise she's a peerless demigod warrior who suffers from a crippling disease (she's blind and one arm + both legs are prosthetics) however she's turned the curse into a life drain of sorts so whenever she hits you in her boss fight she heals herself
>>98158431what? does the marvel contract ommit GR for some reason? it's fucking China and their skeleton censorship, isn't it
>>98158430EGG FUHe's a DC character
>>98158340thing about this comparison is that it isnt at all as versatile or as useful as that single line of thors effectthis dude hits opponents, thor hits creatures and walkers toothe difference between instants and sorcers compared to noncreature is also staggering
>>98157748But they did put John Byrne artwork on a card, it's in the bonus sheet. They used this cover because it was She-Hulk's first appearance.
>>98158431They went out of their way to say that Ghost Rider wasn't in the set because the initial presentation had the actor who played Ghost Rider on the Agents of SHIELD TV show.>>98158396>>98158379Ghost Rider is clearly being saved for a later set focused on the supernatural. Notice how we haven't seen Doctor Strange or Blade either.
Which of the Eddie commanders draws the least heat? I'm an Iron Maiden fan and want to play around with him on the board
>>98158468>Ghost Rider>Blackheart>Mephisto >Cytorrak>Dr. Strange>Clea>Dormammu>Shuma Gorath???>Blade>Dracula>Moon Knight>Khonshu>Magik>Nico Minoru >It's Morbin' TimeWho else could Marvel Supernatural have
>>98158498Agatha HarknessA second Scarlet WitchBaron MordoBrother VoodooThere's like four Ghost Riders availableLoki againThe Ancient OneWiccanBlack KnightCaptain BritainCaptain Britain 2 Forma de PinkshitElsa BloodstoneEnchantressDaimon HellstromMan-ThingSaturnyneSatana SeleneWong
>>98158498Morbius is already in though
>>98158534
>>98157616Its a cool card...
>>98158532Oh fuck I forgot about Man-Thing that guy is so rad
>>98158498Morbius isn't even a supernatural character, they just crowbarred him into Midnight Suns for a connection to vampires
$40+ card
>>98158587nah
Hope we get a female version of this
>>98158647Super-Soldier Semen
>>98158320Oozing with toxic masculinity. Very based.
>>98158673He's actually pretty chill. Nothing especially toxic about him.
What are some reserve list cards that are still cheap but also good.>pic related
>>98158442I guess she fits fairly well then; an ability where you have to pay life to get stronger, and then a means to gain back that life.Here's my list for her in case you are interested: https://moxfield.com/decks/Hz0U2kM2Jka4-mWHgqdC6w
Hey, needed some help. I recently made my Shantotto deck and it worked out really well so I wanted to round out the FF shortstack decks with Tataru but I'm really unsure if I can even build her as a commander
>>98158422>Comboslop
hey guys, card kingdom stole my $200,000 mtg collection. what do i do?
>>98157130Nice looking deck.>Red Elemental Blast>Winds of ChangeBased.
>>98158784Become an hero
>>98158784Kek. Watch out. Those Mormon's are really scary.
i get told regularly that this card doesnt belong in bracket 2, even though my deck contains no game changers and im not doing any hard-lock crap with it. im literally just trying to slow the game down and people act like im dropping mana vault.
>>98158822I see no problem with it in bracket 2. I run Authority of Counsels to basically do the same thing in mono-white. Slow that shit dooooown.
>>98158822>trying to slow the game down in the "you cant win till turn 8" bracketyeah youre just being an asshole, like the cedh without gamechangers in b2 guysI hate rule of law effects even in b3
>>98158822I see nothing but fair magic here
>>98158822If you can't run a ton of fast mana and free spells the natural thing is to go in the other direction and slow things down. Nothing wrong with that
>>98158822Don't listen to anyone telling you not to use it, this card regularly shuts down people trying to pub stomp with combos and is still good when no one is using them.
>>98158822People who cry about shit like this are retarded Timmies seething they can't just vomit their valueslop piles and run away with the game.Such as;>>98158830Pay dipshits like this no mind. It's literally just bad players being bad, like people who house-ban countermagic because "it's unfun."
Where the fuck is Red Skull and where the fuck is She-Hulk>TQpicrel
I built a rule of law sefris pile and I stopped playing it any time I had a ROL effect in my hand because it effected me too
>>98158888white has a lot of easy ways to remove your own rule of law if you actually need it gone to win
>>98158878>>98158871>>98158864>>98158832whatever you say, but when his table stops inviting him to commander night you know EXACTLY why
>>98158906so rule of law filters retards from my life?
>>98157017>tq
>>98158906That's a stupid argument and you know it.This community has a terrible fucking track record of throwing a hissyfit anytime somebody puts up the tiniest roadblock against their deck.You shouldn't bend the knee to some Reddit-tier retard who cries because you won't let him windmill slam his cards like a stupid monkey.Git fucking gud.
>>98158880
>>98158914>>98158908edh especially lower brackets are about making yourself a fun person to play withif I have to play against the rule of law guy I'd rather call up 3 players who arent doing that and keep him as the 7th or 8th back up and when he shows up play outside his rule of law deck bracketlike he said his table is ALREADY telling him it isnt cool, but yeah encourage eachother to be THAT guy you bucket crabs
>>98158917Lmao I had a brain fart
>>98158917so if I grapeshot him 5 times...
>>98158880what bracket is your big G? I've been trying to depower mine from high b3 to middle or lower but he is so damn efficient
>>98158917hey he's got the zoomer number
>>98158922At what point does "fun" just become "Let me do whatever I want or Im banishing you from the table."Magic is a GAME. Somebody has to WIN. By your logic Bracket 2 cannot have;>RoLs (they're unfun and slow the game down)>Counterspells (they're unfun and slow the game down)>Removal (stop getting rid of my stuff I can't play now dude!)>Boardwipes (they slow the game down)I play Bracket 2 and Bracket 3. I even have Bracket 1 meme-brewers at my store. It doesn't mean you bend over and spread your asshole and let people fuck you because god forbid you try to impede your opponent in a fucking GAME.If my group was such thin-skinned bitches yeah I probably wouldn't play EDH with them either.
>>98158932Gen Alpha number. Zoomers are closing in on 30.
>>98158953HE is talking about his friends not liking it and you guys are encouraging it
i used to run this in most of my creature decks, if im behind, board wipe. if im ahead, land wipe. now im facing fast mana and free counterspells
>>98158965And as others have said. If your friends are that big of babies about an RoL effect, you probably shouldn't play EDH with them.
>>98158975his friends arelike I said crab buckets, you want him to be THAT guy cause the rest of you are
So anonsHave you built your cube yet
>>98158914You say this but my old group basically imploded because the players were too dumb to play around 5 open mana for 1 counterspell and one guy was super vocal complaining about it. One could argue "good riddance" because this was legitimately retard-tier crying, but the result was no more EDH.
>>98158914>>98159001Forgot to clarify I'm not that anon
>>98158928Id say I’m on the lower end of bracket 3 Ghyrson is by far the most expensive thing in the deck, but I’ve found when you go off there is no way for it to not feel oppressive as hell I recently cut goblin sharpshooter people hated it
>>98157130Nekasar. I don't have wheels though so it's just fun.
>>98158906When I first started playing my friend would rinse my ass with his mono black zombie deck, 60 card casual kitchen table. This card was the bane of my existence, I hated it. Killed something every single turn how could I beat it? Well I didn't cry and tell my friend to stop playing his deck, I started running enchantment removal to beat deal with it. If your enchantments are a problem your friends will find a way to deal with them because they want to win.
>>98157330what the fuck is the point of this stupid commander? to have your enemies attack each other?
>>98157644trade both for a Gaea's cradle those packs have nothing but a clefairy doll or pokemon flute in them and Fossil sucked. you would be making out like a bandit
Just got Dance of the Elements :)
>>98159190Enjoy itGet a proxy to replace that awful "Ashling" art though
>>98159049Based kitchen table anonI used to run various wither effects because I hated my buddy's Kitchen Finks so goddamn much, and pic related to outsize his signature turn two Watchwolf. Kitchen table is the one true sovl format
>>98158822>i hate this card! This isn't bracket 2!>doesn't play any enchantment removalMany such cases.
>>98159207I'm always getting people bitching at me my decks aren't bracket X
>>98159240what evaluation site is that anon ?
Think I lost my group because they couldn't help themselvesOne guy built cool and fun decks that, while strong, ultimately centered around "I'm going to do some things."Other guy kept losing, got mad, just built fragile combo decks and played on his switch if we countered it once.Other guy just promised he wouldn't escalate until he kept buying moxes and cradles, what have you. Also only built combo decks. Got mad if we focused him down and complained every single time we took out the KOS commander.The combo decks have traded wins for about a month and a half and now no-one wants to play.Sucks that I lost my playgroup but I couldn't even compete against a literal car on the table and didn't have enough removal to handle two combo decks at once. Aside from just building my own combo deck, the fuck can one guy do? Even "oops, all counterspells!" doesn't pack enough interaction.
>>98159240proxy dude
>>98159279It sounds like you were playing with a bunch of faggots
>>98158909Gayest card ever put to print. I’ve only seen that card played by completely autistic faggots. This and Koma, Cosmos Serpent are played only when you don’t want to play with anyone.
>>98159291Not entirely wrong. One guy was cool, but the other built their decks solely with the intent of winning. Which I can't phrase better?Like, we're all very competitive and want to win. But instead of building a deck that was a "Insert commander name here" deck, it was just "I'm going to infinite before you and just want the W". Don't know how to better describe it.Couldn't bear it that I'd shuffle up just to play three lands and then get combo'd out with an "I'm sorry guys." My man, don't apologize. You knew what you were doing when you made the deck. Just own it./rant
I play exclusively precons because I don't want to navigate social norms.When I built my own decks, I included Rule of Law effects and people often yelled at me for it.
>>98159277not a very good one in actuality, testing out this one now: https://scrollvault.net/tools/commander-bracket/ seems better
>>98159306Sounds like he was wannabe CEDH
Whenever I build a deck it sucks
https://moxfield.com/decks/EwQcKNsChEmHAmHrkOaRGgIt says this is a Bracket 1 deck it might be right
>>98159313Two questions, was this in retaliation for them playing similar cards or strategies that would lock down the table? If so then you’re justified in playing those cards. And are your opponents always trans and/or autistic?
Had a weird fight in my group the other day >Friend 1 getting bullied by friend 2 and 3, is at 9 life.>Flips out at friend 1 for like multiple minutes calling him a faggot and etc for attacking him>My turn>In an effort to calm everyone down I decide not to swing on him even though I had lethal, I attack another player instead but leave myself open>Friend 1 turn is next, he plays shared animosity and swings me with 8 1/1 tokens to killed me>Then immediately scoops which screws over friend 3 as he is the only target of friend 2>I get mad and tell him the only reason I left him alive was because he was being a brat and bitching about how he was being targeted >Other friends mad he scooped because it messed up the rest of the game>Everyone mad>Host says this is the last game and we should all go home>Haven't spoken to any of them in 3 daysWas I in the wrong? Maybe I'm too compassionate for not wanting to kick him while he was down
>>98157370I detest your ubslop, but I will answer anyways. Anytime a permanent says its name, it's refering to itself, just itself, no other cards. The only time in mtg you will see something refer to a cards name as such, it with say "...a card named "[card name]"...".For instance, if this was refering to any Mysterio and not just itself, it would be worded as "Exile those tokens when a permanent named "Mysterio, Master of Illusion" leaves the battlefield."
>>98159363Should have made a deal for him not to swing at you. Keeping hit alive as a target and threat is good, but you have to be clear about intensions.
>>98159206This card still gives me PTSD from the days when bloodbraid elf would always cascade in to it, blightning or sprouting thrinax.
>>98159387My FNM build at the time was jund tokens with Bitterblossom, Thrinax, and Torrent of Souls. Thrinax into Torrent always surprised people, I was really proud of that deck.Torrent of Souls remains one of my favorite all time cards.
>>98159206>>98159387Is it awful that I miss the times when putrid Leach was considered to be pretty good?
>>98159407No. It was a better time.
>>98158914I only get upset when it makes no sense to target my shit.>player 2 and 3 have boards full of threats>I have a one or two threats, mostly just value stuff>player 4 has no threats>I play a one-sided boardwipe>player 4 counters itIt's just retarded stuff like that. I will point out when my stuff is threatening, I will call out if I have threats on board that need to be dealt with. Romoval is great, counterspells are great, boardwipes are great.My issue with floodgates is that it's even when there's no reason to be. It impedes all three opponents equally when only one of them is an actual issue.
>>98158320Look I wasn't born yesterday! There's no way I'm paying 9.99/pack for a set featuring "Ka-zar the Great" and "12 pages of "Jungle Adventure!"
I love mail day!
>>98159460>That Clement>$96jfc anon I hope that's from the chinaman
>>98159483He's real :^)
>>98159460Hell yeah bro I got some more today as well. Need to pick up a squelcher.
>>98159512you got a loicense for all those liquimetal?(What are you doing with those?)
>>98159517I needed one for Jan Jansen, got a couple extra just to have around. I didn't have any.
>>98159512cluedoubters in shambles
https://archidekt.com/decks/19007550/i_love_aetherdrift_give_us_aetherdrift_2_and_legendary_vehicle_commanders_with_eminence Is my deck UB-sloppy enough?
>>98159404>this is the only card that this artist has done for MTGfeels bad man, such awesome art
This was marked as shipped but has yet to be delivered. Share the odds it's legit? It's a big seller on tcgplayer with 50k+ sales
>>98159595People that can’t drive once again being impatient when it comes to online shopping
>>98159460I also got mail. Yea, I met the free shipping quota. Something of a high roller.
>>98158822It's perfectly reasonable as a B2 card. I completely disagree that the bracket is "too fast" but most of the painful slowness comes from autists taking 20min turns, so I support anything which fights against that.
I did it guys. I had my first completely retarded game where I would call bullshit if it was greentext>commander night, 45+ people>pod: autistic balding tranny with 5 oclock shadow, random dude, old guy on the spectrum>low power game, play morph>autistic old guy is playing guff, casts narset enlightened master>I flip kheru spellsnatcher, exile it and I can play it for free later>he decides he doesnt want to play narset anymore>tell him that I already responded and revealed hidden information >yells and begins scooping and throwing a tard fit>fine, you can take it back>next turn the autistic tranny goes infinite after fucking around for 20 minutes and wins doing izzet shit
Can anyone explain to me how this is supposed to be 'Counterspell'It's just Tony punching the ground?
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>>98159629It doesn't matter it makes cattle go "whoooa" when they see it and they'll pay many goybux for it.
>>98159628>fine you can take it back>autistic trannyYou should of stood your ground. Trannies, in or out of Magic, will take full advantage if you give them an inch.
>>98159629It literally does not matter if it makes sense, the ONLY thing that matters as far as UB is conserned is whether or not it sells, and as long as this hobby is filled with paypigs, it will.
>>98159628Why would you take it back after revealing hidden info, that's retarded. Let the faggot scoop, fuck em.
>>98159641the tranny won wasting everyone's time, but the old guy was on the spectrum, maybe assburgers, and was wearing a nametag, never seen him at the LGS, not exactly competitive deck he was playing so I just let it be. I just dont fuck with tard rage, saw a 75 year old autist stab someone with a pencil because he forgot how the stack works.
>>98159331Focus on making a deck that consistently plays cards you want to play in order to enable you to do things you want to do. It's easier and more fun to devote time to optimizing a deck when it's actually one you really enjoy playing. When your deck fails, think about why it failed and tweak accordingly. It's also way easier (and cheaper) to build successful decks when you have a way to play-test online (I use EDHplay) before putting the cards together IRL.
marvel set looks pretty bad desu
>>98159666at least the cedh players have some new toys
Played 5 games today, won 3 of them, was fun>Game 1, bracket 4, playing superfriends combo Kilo, i play an early Smothering tithe and planeswalkers and get targeted, player A playing mono green selvala kills us all with triumph of the hordes after interaction is wasted on me, whatever it happens>Game 2, bracket 4, playing Kilo again, player A is playing Vivi and is going off but gets stopped, I flip the 1 mana Tamiyo into a planeswalker early and ult her, drawing half my deck and dropping a Chain Veil combo to infinitely bolt everyone with Ugin and win>Game 3, bracket 4, I step up to Stella Lee because player A is playing Vivi again and both of us go off and get stopped, game is super long and player B playing Tivit grinds us out and plays a protected Time Sieve for the win>Game 4, bracket 3, playing Oloro, player C is put in a kingmaking situation where he can kill me or player A playing Meren and he chooses to kill Meren cus he was spamming Fleshbag Marauders all game and I clean up and win with my army of Indestructible horses lmao>Game 5, bracket 3, playing Bumbleflower, player A apparently desperately wants another win after being targeted every game and pulls out an overtuned Ureni deck and is the archenemy for the entire game. Players B and C dont have interaction so I have to use removal on player A every single turn the whole game while playing out almlst nothing myself. Eventually I stall out the game enough for player C to get put in a kingmaking situation again between me and player A and he kills player A again so I swing in with flying creatures at a low health player C for the winSlow and steady wins the race bros
>>98159628You brought this on yourself. No mercy for trannies. Special targeted aggression for autistic izzet trannies.
>>98159666How so
DC set wen?
Really weird that apparently we're not getting a Doctor Strange card this set. He's my favorite Avenger. I assume this is because we're inevitably getting a Midnight Suns set in the future
>>98159704why was every superman comic cover "SUPERMAN IS A TOTAL ASSHOLE LOL"
>>98159704Probably in the works, although i also believe its going to take some time. One has to imagine someone in corporate doesn't want the Marvel set releasing so close to the DC set. Add to that that we know for a fact thanks to the infinity stones that we have at least four more Marvel sets in the works, and i'd say its going to be a few years from now. I really want a full Batman set honestly, his slice of DC has enough content for a full set, easily. Unlike Spider-man.
>>98157130Rate my 4 color desertfall shit pileYes I have proxies.Yes the are completely illegible half the time.Yes they are mostly of penny cards I already own.No, I don't know how to take a proper picture.
Anyone itt actually asking for more capeshit should fucking kill themselves
>>98159723I hope those wrists aren't real sized brah
>>98159736Fire Bowman would not say that
>>98159752True, but I like the card and even though I interact with endless chinks, I still laugh at names like Tingting
This bitch has to be good now, right? There's so much stuff these days that says "whenever you put a counter on a creature draw a card" or something.
>>98159671Is a little brochure with a giant M really representative of marvel? I don't agree.
>>98158917>>98159231>force other IPs>shoehorn in UB>only to have someone's favourite character being draft chaffJust imagine.
I still can't believe that there are retards who like this art.
>>98158992>That horrific quality of this drawing Did they just not bother to finish it?
>>98158468>They went out of their way to say that Ghost Rider wasn't in the setWho else did they say wouldn't be in the set? Also there's going to be another Marvel set based on supernatural stuff?
>>98159704Maro is a major Marvelfag, I wouldn't be surprised if we never see it. DC is probably their backburner property (assuming they even got the rights) and by the time they get there we'll have seen Spider-Man and another set or two of Marvel be complete flops in the players eyes (but not in Hasbro's eyes since they only care about store allocation sales not what the stores actually sell)
>>98159808I don't have to imagine, I saw hordes of FF fags here lamenting their waifus getting reduced to signpost uncommons and bad mono color commander deck rares just last year. This place hates marvel enough where I doubt I will see the same reaction to this set but I know there are gonna be some diehard /co/fags in meltdown mode after it happens to their favorite scrimblo.
>>98159812Most of the Counterspell art kinda sucks. I give the original credit for at least being memorable, but I much prefer the Tempest version
>>98159835>Maro is a major MarvelfagThat jackass weilds way too much power and influence at WotC>Unsets>stickers>6 marvel sets because he's a capeshit fag>vanity project Mood Swings released as a Secret Lair>survived the fratboy misogyny rape culture era of 90s-early 2000s Maro>destroyed standard>destroyed edhIt's time for WotC to move on from Maro.
>>98159845>era of 90s-early 2000s Wotc
>>98159812For me it's the "Wizard who saw a wand for the first time" artwork
>>98159854For me, it’s this wash of earth-tone colors and blurry lines.
>>98159629It's a reference to a 2003–2004 comic book arc titled The Best Defense where Tony Stark replaced Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense.
>>98159752You don't know that.
>>98159861drew tucker KINO
>>98159812This is the one I use in my cube. Any good mr anon-kun?
>>98159861I actually like this a lot. The color palette goes great with the frame
>>98159812kinda funny and it came with a box (:
>>98159737They are, and this is my face.
>>98159888in response
>>98159805This is all of them in bant wirh any sort of benefit for Jenara.
>>98159805>>98159928I'm retarded.
>>98158498>>98158532Asgardian characters that aren't Thor or Loki are also notably absent, so characters like Odin and Hela might also be in a magic set. Same for Olympian characters other than Hercules and Ares, and gods from other pantheons like Khonshu.
>>98159805UB once again mogs your lame old cardboard.
My Yawgmoth might have gotten lost in the mail on the way back from it getting signed by the artist.I might have to think about a replacement card because that card is now worth too much for me to consider getting another.The deck is a rakdos reanimator deck that has 8 ways to sac already so maybe I can add more land hate in Magmatic Hellkite, I actually really like that card.
Fun booru of old 4chan imageshttps://macrochan.org/search.php?tags=Magic+the+Gathering
I have brewed 5 red decks, which ahould I build?>All modern frame psuedotribal>Make dudes for people to punch each other with while punching them>Force everyone to attack, especially me>Hope to ult early the durdle with tiny cantrip artifacts til I draw my threats>Cast little spells that make artifact tokens, then big spells that really benefit from being copiedI'm looked for fun, mostly, don't care about optimized winning, cause I'm replacing my current red deck that wins too fast.
>>98159964QRD on this page?
>>98160044Tagged archive of sfw images up till around 2009
>>98159993Mica seems the most fun to me.I am skeptical you'll be able to get to Daretti's ult early. People are going to constantly target it for attacks and/or removal, and since you're in Red there's not much you can do about it.
>>98160058I've given up on playing most Planeswalker because in my playgroup, as soon as one hits the field, my opponents will send all of their possible attacks at my Planeswalkers. They'd rather kill my Planeswalkers than attack other players who are clearly more of a threat.
>>98160093I mean, yeah? That's good threat assesment, if I have to choose between sending 5 damage at a Planeswalker and 5 damage to someone's face, I'd kill the Planeswalker (unless an opponent is at 5 life of course). Same way I always choose sending damage at creatures over sending damage at people's face if the option is there. Life is just life, removing pesky permanents with good abilities is just logical.
I'm surprised there are so many that follows marvel itt. I thought it was a dead franchise
>>98160103Why did you think that? Marvel may not be as big as it was at its peak with Endgame, but it still makes billions of dollars in movies, TV shows, games, and merch every year, the characters are still iconic. And since this is 4chan, more people here are likely to have actually read some comics than your average joe.
>>98160101>>98160093I wish my playgroup was this logical. I'm the only one who cares about attacking Planeswalkers unless they're within Ult range. Whenever I try to convince people to attack Planeswalkers they're all "but I don't want to make an enemy out of this guy", "all he does is draw an extra card each turn" or "that guy has the most life so I'm attacking him".
My favourite part of this set is finding out about all the marvel Z-listers I've forgotten over the years.
>furfag OP
>>98160123Yeah, like the Super-Adaptoid, the Wrecking Crew or Ka-Zar. Did not expect any of them to get cards.
>>98160130I was shocked to see Ares and heracles in this.I know we need stuff for uncommon but damn. It's a good fun going through the spoiler list and going "who the fuck are you" and shooting the shit with a friend about the character as I dig up info about them
>>98160138I expected Hercules because he's been a long-standing Avenger and appeared in several adaptations. Ares was indeed a surprise though.
>>98160155Speaking of adaptations, I believe that every character with a card revealed so far has appeared in several adaptations, right? Be it movies, cartoons, or games. So the deep cuts aren't really that deep.
>>98160159Some of those adaptions are pretty old these days but you are right, I knew about the Wrecking Crew from an old video game, they're still Z-listers but a decent chunk of people will know them.
>>98160159I don't think the Roxxon Berserkers ever appeared outside of comics, but they're not legendary, just goons.But if you don't count Lego games with hundreds of characters or shitty mobile games with hundreds of characters, I don't think that Hellcat or Iron Lad have ever been adapted.
Why pay chang for proxies when you can scribble onto these dfc helper cards
>>98160170kino kino
>>98160159>>98160169The Micronauts appear in the artwork of Worlds Within Worlds. The Micronauts never appeared in any media outside of comics due to legal issues with Hasbro (Micronauts are based ona forgotten toyline), but since Magic is done by Hasbro that wasn't a problem.
>>98160302They just keep giving Prosper more stuff.
>>98160316the payoff is negligible and having to swing with it to exile the card is too slow. Even if you curve him into Prosper it won't do anything for another turn cycle
>>98159425I play with my brother and unless someone is obviously going to win next turn he targets me, every turn, even when my control pieces are the only thing keeping the paypig fag with a "B2" deck from going off. It's frustrating but I deserve it for all the times I bullied him at Yu-Gi-Oh. Plus when the guy inevitably ends up winning I get to say I told you so
Convince me that Prosper decks aren't simic decks in disguise
>>98159929where's the blue nigga from twd
>>98160382Prosper decks don't have counterspells.
>>98160382Goodstuff.dek are peak soulless. At least with kinnan, winota or yuriko you will know they use more niche stuff, prosper is just the best red/black cards available
>>98160382>draw* card>ramp it's simic alright
>>98157729I can't imagine ghave + sac commander or Adrix and Nev, Twincasters would be badThere's probably a better option than adrix but you catch my driftI personally would play a ramp commander + maelstrom wanderer but I'm a big dumb timmy so ymmv
>>98158422You can literally play any commander as a 75% deck and be fine
>>98159425>It impedes all three opponents equally when only one of them is an actual issue.Assuming we're not all a bunch of crybabies and actually want to play the game: that's actually pretty good. Your goal is to beat all three opponents eventually, not just the one who's ahead right at that moment. There's no reason to choose not to hinder your other opponents alongside the one who's ahead when you have that option.
>>98158922Nah, everyone should be "that guy", because "that guy" actually plays the game instead of playing pretend with idiots to feel good. The people who don't like it should be driven out of the game entirely.
Every time I hear about someone having a bad experience playing a game it's because they're playing with retards at the lgs instead of playing kitchen table with their buddies
>>98160523Prosper also plays a lot of theft spells, so they'll often also just play your stuff.
>>98160764>he hasn't lost friendships over a pubstomping Ngmi
>>98160445>Imp's Mischief>Tibalt's Trickery>Deflecting Swat
when are we getting a DC set
>>98160523>prosper is just the best red/black cards availableNot really, Prosper decks tend to play a bunch of cards that let you play from exile or create/synergize with treasure as they can. Why play Phyrexian Arena or Necropotence when you'd rather impulse draw than draw? Why play Graveyard shit if you don't care about the Graveyard?
>>98160816Can we not?
>>98160816I think we're getting an avengers set with the actors in it before we get a DC set.
>>98160170Why pay for anything at all? Why not just make it up in your head? Just imagine the cards bro.
Have you ever actually played MTG against a troon?
>>98161016I have, no lie, played and had sex with Autumn.
>>98157017>TQ: What's the MOST popular commander you actually play?>>98157130>Post decksAs if I'd let you mox my Moxfield
I've got an itch to build some combo sloppa reanimator jund. Prossh fits the bill enough. Is he still a boogeyman or is he unc-tier?
>>98161016Yes. They're always ugly as sin, and smell terrible while trying their hardest to act like quirky wholesome chungus redditors.
>>98160402I don't know what twd is, that isn't a set code.
>>98161016>be European MTG player>just minding my business>enjoying the game >stay on my little side of the world >just cruising along 20+ years>pandemic hits>IRL events change along>Magiccon 2024 Amsterdam rolls along>decide to attend>first contact with Americans in my life>troonseverywhere.jpegI've rewd stories. But good grief. I've never seen so much blubber and mentally ill people gathered in one place, ever.
>>98160745We aren't talking about things being good and bad, we are talking about things being unfun or not. Hindering a player that is behind unnecessarly is unfun.
>>98161016Yes, there are half a dozen at my lgs, a few even working for my lgs. At any given time there is maybe one female there at most, and 2-3 troons.
I'm visiting Europe in a couple of weeks, tell me about Scandinavian Magic players.
>>98161081Oh piss off. As others have said, "unfun" is such a shit argument because you just harbor an enviornment where nobody is allowed to do anything and we are all just sitting at a table watching each other put cards down because to do anything else could be "unfun."No removal. Its unfun.No boardwipes. It's unfun.No hatebears or speedbumps. It's unfun.Just fucking admit you're a bitch and care more about showing your cardboard to people than actually playing a game.
>>98161016There's a lot of really cute transboys and transgirls that play in my city. I'm friends with a handful of them. I've also played a 6 player game against 5 transgirls.
>>98161073It's bad here. Even in rural areas.Actually it might be even worst in rural areas per capita.
>>98161106Reread my original comment, faggot. I go through all of that. Hurting people that aren't threats is the only thing that is unfun, all the rest is fine. Removal is fine, counterspells are fine, boardwipes are fine.
>>98161112What you're saying is that you're a troon. It was a 6-troon game.
I hecking love Mirrodin. The mirran-phyrexian war shouldn't have gone down the way it did.
>>98161251sorry anon, you're the only player with no blockers and I need my eight toski triggers, nothing personal
what's the red pill?
>>98161266Fuck me that is a gorgeous piece of art
>>98161373Bigot, it should be an obese black woman with.
>>98159716to get you to buy a book called "superman's girlfriend lois lane"
>>98161259Nah, I'm a biological man married to a biological woman. I just happen to have trans friends.
Can you pinpoint when the wokification of MTG began?
>>98161106board wipes are only good if they're one sided. They are unfun otherwise.
>>98161319Actually playing with town lands.
>>98160123I'm still mad they didn't include such iconic characters as Night Thrasher, whose power is the ability to skateboard around while wielding two sticks.
>>98161386When they added teferi. You're woke and a tranny if you kept playing MTG after that
>>98161386Samd time as most other companies, 2015-2016
>>981613862002
>>98159628>He let a Magic player take it back on a blatantly crucial playThis game probably has the most notorious cheating community out of any card game. It is YOUR fault for letting them do backsies.
>>98157644Why can't these kind of offers happen to me. You are legitimately retarded for even thinking about it. Do the trade dude. I can't believe the dude is only asking for one pack.
>>98157750Pretty tone deaf for a game made for virgins to have an event for gay couples. That being said, when is the hetero event happening? I want to win the Liliana waifu card.
>>98161386It had been creeping in slowly for years but it truly exploded in 2019/2020 when Burn Loot Murder was at the peak of it's power and every company on the planet was scrambling to prostrate itself before the nigger horde to appease them in the hopes their company headquarters wouldn't be next on the burning list.
>>98161016Yes. One was cool and had fun decks. One was mildly tryhard and a bit of a pissbaby about being interacted with.
>>98158396They'd have to make his card OP. One of the strongest characters in the marvel universe.
>>98161016There was a whole saga at my LGS years ago involving a trio of troons who nearly put the store out of business with their shit (TL;DR one worked for the store and before he got fired was banning people left and right over inane shit and showing obvious favoritism). Too much to type up now, will get into it after work if people want to hear the full story.
>>98161384I don't believe you
>>98161561Takesies Backsies is required for casual commander at least to some extent. The fact of the matter is most players do not pass priority after every spell they play to save time so rewinding is required when someone rushes through game actions. I should not have to openly telegraph that I have interaction in order to get a valid window to respond.Also most players do not read the text of every card they play to save time. If I have to ask the verbatim text of every card that is played, that stalls the game even longer especially when every modern card has 2 paragraphs on it. So when a card does not behave exactly like it is vaguely described or noone knows what the fuck is happening because youre autistic and wont talk, taksies backsies should always be allowed, especially when no hidden info is revealed. When I was newer, someone played Dragon Tempest just saying "it gives flying stuff haste" so I had assumed it gave all creatures static haste like a Fervor so I was gonna blow it up right before combat but it doesnt work like that so I lost because of his fucking vagueness.I actually started mentioning to my playgroup the idea that takebacks shouldnt be allowed when you actually read your cards completely and they dismissed it as I think most groups would so this is just what you have to deal with.>>98161665Id like to hear this lol
>>981613861998 at the latest. Well before your time.
>>98161718What made all you millennials so gay in the first place
>>98161689The key operator was "on a blatantly crucial play"
>>98161680Why? It's a pretty mundane claim.
>>981617319/11
>>98161689I fully believe in modeling how other players should take their turn. I always ask after big plays if there is any response and I usually announce main phase, moving to combat and 2nd main phase. Sure, throughout playing magic you're always going to run into awkward rewind moments (especially if it's a new pod) but you should try to mitigate it as much as possible. Firm believer that if someone asks what a card does then you read it aloud word for word, and if they ask to see it, you fork it over. Magic is not a speed running game, it's a calculated strategy game (unless you play red lul.) There is no reason people should be blowing through steps of the game or not clarifying their actions because that is an integral part of the game. This is the same for paying attention to board state. I'd rather someone ask what everyone has for the 5th time in a turn than play something and then do a taksie baksie and I ensure my group knows that and I model it myself.I have never taken back something I played because of information I forgot or didn't ask for. I will verbally say either A) "Oh yeah, I forgot) or B) "Oh shit, I didn't know that was there or did that" and then reap the consequences of the bad play. I believe a card laid is a card played and it's on me to ensure I'm playing optimally. Of course this always depends on how seasoned your playgroup is too, newbies get a pass for at least a few games before I start bearing down on playthrough and rules. The rules are important and abiding by them makes you a better player, allowing players to constantly skirt them is a disservice to the table and makes everyone there a worse player.
someone start spamming images so I can post the next bread with dragon porn in it
>>98161731Generally decent upbringing that emphasized tolerance and self-actualization. Although it stands to reason that that's somewhat of a non sequitur to literary developments authored in the '90s by gen X and baby boomers.
>>98161386They always have been. They're Seattle liberals.
>>98161799Doing my part by posting a card that would have fit your post better.
Another nazi has been printed
>>98161872patiently awaiting a Hate-Monger card
>>98161872What the balls, Wizards
>>98161891>He has Invoke Prejudice as a prepared ability
>>98161912>Any time a creature enters the battlefield and its color does not match Hate-Monger's, Hate-Monger becomes prepared.
>>98161926>WUBRG card
>>98161799>Flavor perfect for Fatal Push>Card is not Fatal PushI genuinely want to know what these retards are doing at the office when they can't even make slop correctly. How do you fuck up cooking slop?Also have an image.
Those fuckers made Ultron and Shuri literally perfect for the artifacts deck I'm working on but I won't do it!I WILL NOT BUY THE SLOPYOU CANT MAKE ME
>>98161872LET HER IN YOU COWARDS
>>98161987You will buy the slop
Do you think people will get upset at white Nick Fury being on this card?
>>98162037No.
>>98162037lmfao you chuds are so desperate for outrage
>>98161766I guess I believe you if you're a cuck or poly or something else disgusting, but no normal married guy has multiple trans friends and talks about how "cute" they are. This is how trannies talk about each other and not how normal people talk about them.
>>98161976IIRC someone mentioned a lot of the artwork was intended for other cards. There was probably a problem with Garfield killing Odie with a "Fatal Push" from rights holders.
>>98161299Right, but you're very much benefitting from that. You don't benefit from my one spell I cast each turn that does practically nothing costing 2 more to cast.
>>98162096Im black I can't be a chud
>>98159805My bracket 3 Jenara deck has a suprisingly high win rate because people underestimate her. They think she is an old janky voltrons commander, which she is, but I don't run her as one. Pillowfort/combo and she is just a flying blocker most of the time. Rarely do I pump her up and swing for wins, but it happens with infinite mana.
>>98162224Tell that to Mario Judah
>>98162230>Mario JudahIs he related to Viscera?
>>98161081Okay, so we are talking about a bunch of crybabies that don't actually want to play the game, thanks for clarifying.>>98161251>Whatever I personally don't enjoy is bad, while the things I enjoy are fineThat's nice and all, except every faggot will claim the same thing, dumbass. This is why all this fun and unfun crap should be summarily ignored. Either play the game as it is, or don't play at all.
I just target people if they play something I think is unfun, maybe call them a faggot once or twice. This isn't a big deal.
>>98162116I'm not a cuck or poly. I'm just a normal married guy. Am I not allowed to think people other than my wife are attractive? Am I not allowed to have friends? Because that sounds like some cuck shit.
>>98162580You can't say anything sounds like cuck shit when you're talking about your "cute" trans friends. Fucking freak, you're not fooling anyone.
>>98162624Are you mad because I have friends and a wife? Are you that maladjusted?
>>98162369>everyone will claim the same thing about the thing they don't lileRight, but they won't have a leg to stand on, whereas I do, which is very clear since you seem to be unable to address my argument.
>>98161928>>98161928>>98161928
>>98163019>thread was up for FOUR HOURS before getting linkedwhat sort of schizo "i must be the one to make the OP" behavior is this
>>98163041there's a reason why furries are so mentally ill
>>98162580I mean, I'm married and it feels disrespectful to your wife that you gush about all the "cute" trannies at the card store to your autistic 4chan friends. I mean, if she married an open faggot, then that's on her, but otherwise she'd probably be super bummed about your fetish lolYou might not be a larping tranny, but you seem like a degenerate to me and I'm pretty sure I can accurately picture you without ever having actually seen you
>>98163165So respecting your wife is cuckery, and not respecting your wife is degeneracy? Which one are you? Honestly, this just sounds like a you problem. Having friends and a healthy enough relationship to acknowledge when someone is attractive should be the norm. Sorry that's not the case for you. And if you think calling someone cute is "gushing", you've got some potential issues to work through.
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>>98162951No, you don't. Your argument is "hindering everyone at once is bad because I think it's unfun to hinder those who are behind". It holds literally no more weight than anyone claiming anything else they don't like is unfun, since I've already explained how it's a good strategy if you actually want to win.
>>98164228>"your argument is [my argument]"Correct>"which could apply to anything else people label as unfun!"Incorrect, it literally only applies to this one thing, as outlined in my argument.>"But it's good"Never said it wasn't.>"so it's okay!"It's unfun, but sure it's okay.
>>98164292Sorry, to correct, myself here, you aren't claiming it's the same reason everyone uses, you're saying it's the same level of reasoning everyone uses, which you don't make any attempt to prove by comparison at all, so it can be summarily dismissed as "no, I'm right".
>>98161689>I should not have to openly telegraph that I have interaction in order to get a valid window to respond.just start telegraphing you have interaction when you don't my man
>>98164228Here, I'll do it for you.>removalTargetted, usually targetting something reasonable that's either hindering you or giving too much value to them. This will only affect a behind player if they are trying to hinder other players.>boardwipesEveryone is reset to the same state, so unless you've missed tons of land drops and had mana dorks, you're more than likely fine with this. The only player behind here is the one with an empty hand, which really is always the case.>counterspellsSee:removal>combat pillowfort effectsMight affect a couple players more than others depending on deck strategy, but doesn't really affect players that are behind since more often than not they aren't attacking.>straight up casting taxesEveryone has to pay or they can't play, behind players very much included. If anything it affects them more cause they likely have less mana to pay the tax with.
>>98161689I always read my cards out for everyone's sake, and if necessary ask other players to read theirs. Also help you anunciate, you get better over time, which is a good skill for everyone to train.
...you autistic retards can just ask them to hand you the card? I don't like how people just assume I know what cards do or they don't read it word for word, I just ask them to let me read it. Usually that means I'm the only person at that table who knows how it works exactly.
>>98164292>>98164297>>98164319You're missing the point. I'm not contesting the claim hindering everyone will also hinder those behind. I'm contesting the claim that it's unfun to hinder those who are behind.Playing well and trying to win is fun. Messing around pretending is retarded, and only a little bitch would complain that others aren't doing it.
>>98166009>i'm contesting the claim that it's unfun to hinder those behindRight, but you have no argument, you're just saying it's the case, unless your argument is that the only fun part about this inherantly social 4-player game is winning, in which case I would say "cool, but you really should be playing an actually competitive format", but that still doesn't make it unfun, that just means you don't care.
>>98166068The counter argument is the fact fun is subjective, just because you find something unfun doesn't mean it's universally so, and anyone can claim the same about anything, which is why no one should listen to that kind of claim.As for the format being inherently social, you're probably repeating the Wizard's line of saying "social" to mean it's casual, which is a load of bullshit. It is social in the sense that there's politics, but it's not inherently more casual. The fact people play something casually doesn't make something casual, and Commander certainly isn't inherently casual. You can also play any other format casually, you know.
>>98166127Okay, so the argumenr you are claiming to make against mine is that anyone can make an argument for anything. That doesn't address my argument at all, though, you see that, right? So really your argument is that you don't care that it's unfun, which is a consession.It is inherantly more casual, abd yes people playing something casually, as opposed to competitively, does make it casual. The goal is fun, not winning by any means necessary-- unless you are playing cehd or at the very least high bracket 4.And yes, you can play any other format casually, but the formats themselves are competitive formats.