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I really don't like the fact that in Without Question the Jade Falcons:A) Elect a Freebirth as their SaKhanB) Rename their Occupation Zone into the "Jade Falcon Free Zone" at the end of the bookC) Found two new Bloodhouses from Freebirth stock without any complaints, Trials or challenges. Both feel dumb.
>start up Dougram>can't stop thinking of the Soltic as a Griffin>Crinn solos a Goliath in one>Dougram gets hyped up when I can't look at it without seeing a Shadow HawkYou ever wonder if Fang of the Sun is in Battletech as Earthwerks propaganda?
>>98162102>C) Found two new Bloodhouses from Freebirth stock without any complaints, Trials or challenges.This really bothered me as well. There should have been some sorta trial or challenge, even as a formality ffs, but no. Bryan "I like them" Young's OCs are too good for that!
>>98162102>>98162114nice to see you nazis getting mad about even the slightest bit of representation in battletech. I hope Bryan Young keeps at it.
>>98162102Nothing Bryan Young writes is canon. It's honestly that simple. CS Goto respected the universe he was writing in more than Young does.
>>98162102>Jade Falcon Free ZoneCringe
>>98162102I haven't read this book yet, so I don't yet understand how irritated I need to be about this; could you please clarify something?Are #1 and 3 done without any discussion or debate just "because", and imposed upon the Falcons for no narrative reason? Or are they a sort of last-ditch thing done out of desperation due to the insanely precarious position of the tiny number of Falcon remnants in their OZ? Because the remnants have been mostly described as the minority of "practical" Falcons that Malvina didn't want with her, and so taking practical measures to stave off functional extinction/annihilation is within the bounds of their description, but it does need to be narratively justified.But if they're just shoving freebirths into a Khanship without comment or justification (etc.), then yeah, I'm basically on the, "it's not canon" train.
>>98162081I like Regent, swap jaywalker for coyotl and ad something fast. Phantom or Fire Falcon would be nice. Would be cool box.
>>98162202They choose to found two Bloodhouses from promising Freebirths, one of whom becomes SaKhan, because the Jade Falcons need new genetic stock and new bloodlines to call upon. Makes sense.But the Jade Falcons choosing a Freebirth as SaKhan is retarded and the way it's done it total cringe. Jiyi, the Khan, asks for a vote in favour of electing said Freebirth as SaKhan and literally the entire room votes in solemn support of this choice. Everyone raises their hands in agreement, no on hesitates or says no. Since there's no challenge, she becomes SaKhan without any sort of Trial or some form of combat.He suggests founding Bloodhouses from the SaKhan and the Freebirth main character of the book. Again, the way it's done it total cringe. Jiyi, the Khan, asks for a vote in favour of creating a Bloodhouse from our Freebirth OC MC and literally the entire room votes in solemn support of this choice. Everyone raises their hands in agreement, no on hesitates or says no. Since there's no challenge, she becomes becomes the first of her House without any sort of Trial or some form of combat.
Honor lost
>>98162202>But if they're just shoving freebirths into a Khanship without comment or justification (etc.), then yeah, I'm basically on the, "it's not canon" train.The FB who becomes sakhan is introduced in the book with no prior appearance in the last novel, is simply great her job, wins, kicks ass, is super tough but also sentimental and empathetic and understanding and becomes sakhan because she's just that damn good. Stop complaining and stfu, chud!
Recently starting to get into it since there's a local group that plays weekly near me, I bought a set I thought were cool looking, Hansen's Roughriders Battle Lance, and I'm supposed to start a long game of classic this weekend.Should I get the Battletech Manual? I'm sticking pretty much exclusively mechs for a while and the quick and dirty how-to guide for playing Classic I got in person has already slid right off my smooth brain. I want to drill the rules into myself before I start this weekend.
>>98162231Narratively, I'd expect this to become a strong point of contention later with the star league Falcons, or at least an easy excuse to do whatever in the name of clan autism.But it probably won't.
>>98162153>CS Goto respected the universe he was writing in more than Young does.elaborate
Relatedly, I was looking through lists of active bloodnames because I might do a clan force next campaign and I'm curious how they actually go out of use. Are they actively choosing to not use that bloodname material on the matrilineal side of their tube spawn so that no one has a claim or is it because there's no members of the house left to officiate new memberships in their blood trials?
>>98162081How does the MAF keep their purchased commissions from fucking up? A lot are going to be social media subalterns.Relevant to time of war campaign that’s ’extract falcon scientists from hinterlands to Canopus for a joint biotech institute with the sea foxes’. Hire ex falcons as guards. Reasonable…Except the MAF sent a femboy social media influencer as their liaison. And he had a wolf girl persona that was the mascot for the canopian edition of Wolf Cola, and the wolves found out (they have an Aqueduct full of impounded wolf cola and bottling equipment), and MAF ensign retard botches Surkai and by luck survives a trial of grievance mostly because seafox players shamed the wolves into bidding by too low.Which is still bad since it’s 3151 and the trinity alliance is on very bad terms with the clans and a MAF influencer just started a shooting fight with the illclan after insulting their totem. Also the offending canopian is named after Alexander K.
>>98161314>>98161416I will say I do think they dropped the ball not having a proper succession war in over a hundred years now
>>98162312There is no Trinity Alliance in the 3150s. The Trinity Alliance only existed in the 3050s and mid 3060s. It wasn't even an entire decade.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98162322All I know is six months later canopian cat girls and wolves are duking it out in former republic space
>>98162296Either no one shares a genetic link to that Bloodname and cannot challenge for it, or the name gets lost to another Clan
>>98162102>Rename their Occupation Zone into the "Jade Falcon Free Zone"I mean it is very close to that, yes.
TDV (Total Drac Victory)
>>98162231I didn't think I'd ever say this, but maybe Brett Andrews was on to something?
Also wolf cola is a thing https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wolf_Cola
>>98162384He was, but trusting Star Adders is a big blind spot to operate under.
>>98162231>>98162102The Wars of Reaving were both justified and did not go far enough. Time has shown us the wisdom of what those brave men and women tried to achieve.
>>98162102>Jade Falcons electing a freeborn saKhan...Does the freebirth at least have a BloodName?
>>98162583A new Bloodname belonging to a Bloodhouse she is the first of and leader of. She gets it at the same council meeting she becomes SaKhan.
>>98162597That is not how the Bloodhouses work! What dezgra spheroid fiction is this - I demand a Trial of Grievance!
>>98162231He just won't stop fucking up the clans in his writing.Boy would I be livid if I didn't hate the clans and think ilclan was already unsalvageable garbage.
Okay, got my ideas for some BT small arms blocked out. They're scaled by the trigger guard opening only as of now.The guns on the right are lasers. The general idea's to differentiate them between syringe and slab types, with further differentiation based on where they're drawing power from. Art, after all, shows both cables from external power packs and batteries fixed to the gun as options, and the stats in the RPG suggest merits to both. The Liao's a slab-type, based on a Comblock flame thrower, which makes use of both options. The battery's in the stock. The idea here's that of a first and last ditch option, in case the laser dude's caught with their pants down.I made the first syringe type for the Mariks, taking elements from 80s Camcorders, which seems to make sense to me, as the FWL's supposedly good with electronics and optics. This one's completely externally powered.Another thing I'd like to emphasis with these is that the lazing unit's a distinct part that can be quickly switched out for a new one. It's not like any soldier's going to repair one of those in the field, now is it? Furthermore, in BT, laser rifles in general seem to be DMR-type weapons, only that you need to know or train shit all to reliably cook somebody's brain through their eye because it's a literal laser. They overall seem like a support weapon that's bad at suppressing or countering suppressive fire from rifles as they neither do volume of fire or scary noises and you don't get a lot of shot for the weight of your ammo either.
>>98162688Steiner needs an AR-18 derived platform just for the Isle of Skye memes.
So anons you are tasked with developing a non shit version of an introtech Shadow Hawk. What do you come up with?>Hard modeMust be heat neutral>Even harder modeMust contain at least 1x ballistic, 1x missile and 1x energy weapon>Impossible modeDon't just make it a Griffin
>>98162635They've been trying to make the clans less psychotic and anathema to all other human cultures. I don't know why, they're much more fun when they're easily despised alien freaks.
>>98162876The whole appeal of the Clans is that they are WEIRD and DIFFERENT.
>>98162876The only satisfying and reasonable conclusion to clan society is their culture completely disintegrating with constant widespread contact with a society and culture that doesn't go out of its way to make literally everyone stratified drones that are as miserable as possible.It's the difference between east berlin and west berlin in the cold war times 50.
>>98162490Star Adders need to come back to kill sph*roid cl*nners
>>98162911Deculture?!?!
Also. Is it at all plausible to find dragoon/comstar fireflies in the 3150s, even if just as frankenmechs. Like in spoiled rich canopian boy styles himself as a star league descendent and buys a salvageable chassis out of jihad scrap and has it fixed with forced adapted canopian FFL-5A parts or raven parts or whatever so he can pretend it’s an ancestral SLDF mech and anger everyone. Especially clanners. >>98162635Canopus is also big in Illclan so no worries, you get a canon canopus clan war.
>>98162746Using MGs for the ballistics is a cheat for this kind of challenge, but I'm compromising with a full ton bomb instead of taking an extra half-ton of armor.
>>98162688I don't what any of that means but these look sweet my dude
>>98163018I mean, they started making them again just before the ilKhan era, so it wouldn't be that weird. Also, some mechs managed to survive in families for centuries during the Succession wars.
>>98163315Yeah but the new fireflies are about different looking from the SLDF line as a 21st century J-7 is from a MiG-21. The point is someone unlikable but descended from hegemony elites salvaging one of the old fireflies to lie and say it’s an ancestral mech.
>>98162384>>98162404>>98162490The Clans have fallenTrillions must die
>>98163358The Society should have been about gene-freak Abominations and Superheavy Elementals size of a protomech. Missed opportunity
>>98163358What's with the giantess?
>>98163506i simply could not imagine being as young as you
>>98163519Maybe he will listen to your song?
ESL question: Is the 'company store' ploy referring to/based on this?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_store
>>98163588Yes. The basic jist is that in a geographically and/or sociopolitically remote area, you provide employees the 'service' of being able to purchase goods at a company store against their pending or future paychecks. With control over the prices of the store and the wages of the workers, you can make them fully dependent and captive; either working excessively hard and long hours to meet their debts for necessities or increasingly underwater as their expenditures will always exceed their earnings.The song "Sixteen Tons" by Tennessee Ernie Ford famously described it as such: "You load sixteen tons, what do you get?Another day older and deeper in debtSaint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't goI owe my soul to the company store"
>>98162382Davion Marches could basically just be renamed to military districts, Steiner only has 3 main 'space provinces' right? How would they be chopped up after getting drac'd? Same with the capellans, I'm not very familiar with their internal organization
>>98162382>Taurians now border the DragonImagine how hard they would party on the day the last Davion gets beheaded by a Kuritan Katana.Conversely, imagine their reaction following the first Taurian world that Kurita conquers getting Kentares massacre'd.I don't know if it would make them sober up and start seeing the fall of the FS as a monkey's paw, or coom on the spot because they can finally have the balls-to-the-wall guilt-free war of annihilation with an Inner Sphere power that every Taurian patriot secretly hopes will happen one day.
>>98163506It's a reference to a shitty boomer anime from the 80s or something that they've repurposed as a fetish. Ignore them or report them for off topic spamming.
>>98163900>a shitty boomer anime from the 80s or something>saying this in the Battletech threadNewfag begone.
>>98163777>How would they be chopped up after getting drac'd?I did them honorably. More than they deserved, really
>>98163506
>>98163924I meant how would their lands be partitioned
>>98163992Several new military districts, none of whose capitals are former Lyran principality capitals, to divorce grassroots links to "the old days".
>>98162284the mutilasers, silly. the multilasers.
>>98163588It's a little different, in real life it often involved company scrip where the company paid you in their own monopoly money but also owned the entire town, accepted rent in scrip, ran stores that accept scrip (and only scrip, when that was legal). If you had the option of getting paid in cash instead, it was usually less. $5/week or 15 corpobux worth $15! Also everything is three times more expensive than anywhere else and corpobux cannot be exchanged for any other currency. Also also the stores are only open to current employees, so don't save that scrip for a rainy day, if you're fired, you can't spend it anymore.In Battletech it's mostly just a debt trap since it's governments doing it and their own currency is just money which can be exchanged for other kinds of money anywhere else in the inner sphere. They might still offer you more of their own money than the equivalent amount of C-bills, but that's not really a trap unless they know ahead of time that their own money is about to be devalued.
There was nothing stopping the IS from putting arms onto a Catapult and inventing the omnimech decades earlier
>>98164098Sure, re-tool your entire factory to support that, right before someone blows the site up just to deny it to their rival.
>>98164098>nothing stopping the IS
>>98164098The IS's best attempt at recreating the Mad Cat was the Rakshasa, which is a pile of shit that couldn't dream of equaling its inspiration even if it used clantech weapons, filled to the brim with every bit of lostech the IS had, and can't even fit CASE. This isn't even including that the important part of Omnis is the modular OS letting you just jam whatever in there when a Battlemech needs its gyro and FCS adjusted just from switching a Small Laser for a Medium.
Dracs can never win because their culture is absurd and rejected by the vast majority of the IS. They may conquer a planet militarily, but they can't force people into becoming weeb otakus. Rebellion and revolt are inevitable, every single time. They're just larping what they think the Japanese were, hence why they are always so over the top. It'd be like if the local Renaissance Fair tried to create a nation. Yeah, some dorks would be into it, but enough wouldn't tolerate it to the point where their failure is inevitable.
>>98164145>because their culture is absurdAs compared to whom?
>>98164145>but they can't force people into becoming weeb otakus.>Turns down his mandatory kimono, rice cooker and tea setEven the Hogs speak Swedenese, nigga.
>>98162605Warriors of Kerensky already established that a freeborn that performs exceptionally well can have their name and genetic legacy made into a new bloodhouse/bloodname. The question is; did Teresa Rook really do well enough to be rewarded with such an honor?
Will you be able to repair mechs like the Crab, Grasshopper and the Highlander in 3025 when damaged? How much of a big deal is the spare parts?
>>98164118I think MDG-2A's pretty good for its price.BTW, what the hell MDG stands for?
>>98164185They're still around, a bit scarce but you can track down the right actuators and standard structures with enough work. The bigger issue is the fancier components like ERPPCs, pulse lasers and replacement Endo frames. Pretty much every Star League spec model is going to be downgraded by 3025 and not really possible to restore until the Helm Memory Core becomes public.
>>98164185>>98164196Oh, I meant the mechs that have Introtech downgrade versions, listed onUL, but rare as hell or pretty much extict fluffwise by 3025
>>98164185Some of them still have some support, iirc Highlanders and Black Knights both have at least one industrial line that can keep an existing unit going by fabricating some parts and refurbishing as many parts from totalled units as they can find.
>>98164210TR3025 is Comstar exaggerating just how desperate things are. They're going to be rare compared to Stingers or Enforcers or whatever else, but not quite extinct.
Honor the dragon!
>>98164145Sounds like some needs a visit from his local "Friendly Persuaders."
>>98164145I like to think that the shock of encountering the Clans, who were basically the end result of following muh honor and bushido code to its logical conclusion, was a big wakeup call to the Dracs of the general retardation of their philosophy
>>98164386And yet the Clans fundamentally misunderstand honor and bushido both.
Having the Dracs and Capellans as bad guys and the FedSuns/Lyrans/FWL as good is nothing but pure Yellow Peril lacism and Eurocentrism
>>98164418OK
>>98164418Ah yes, because the first TWO draconian combine characters we were introduced to ....SAMURAI NIGGER..And literal GINGER NINJA.So... oh yeah. 'Yellow' peril.
>>98164185Force adapt parts. Machine something from whatever is closest to one to fit. Gunsmiths do it all the time to replace parts on antique guns and it works most of the time. Probably not good for collectors value but I doubt that matters in space dark age.
On the previous discussion about how 3rd Star League is still active as of 3250, the implication with that is no one is really free in a Clan-run Star League. No romance, no marriages, no families, avoidance of regality and decorum, no freedom of religion, no freedom to make whatever art you want, and many more unpleasantries.I mean, is it hard to have such freedoms in this franchise? I mean, I get that it may have been the result of Catalyst and Topps fully cementing their control of the franchise and that its name alone means there can't ever be a portion of space populated by man that permanently achieved positive peace (having no war but little to no freedom is negative peace), but by devising such a plot twist, it's hard to even care about the setting if there's no faction at all that's able to successfully defend such freedoms (no one is able to have their SDS, or WarShips, to prevent intrusions by those who have mostly the latter or a government that commits itself to such freedoms).
>>98164517The 3152 star league had to make concessions to the former republic letting them keep their way of life in exchange for joining the fight against the capellans and canopians. Why would they renege on that deal when the clans seem fine enough with enforcing their rules only on their population enclaves.
>>98164418The smearing really only exists in the novels. Reading the Notables blurbs in the old TROs paints a more balanced picture.
>>98164145Even a Clan working caste member gets to interact with a real doctor when they're sick.A Drac, meanwhile, will pick literal snake oil from the village quack over the state-run medical services.A Clan worker will get appreciated and rewarded for working hard and the way to achieve social mobility for himself and his children are clear and transparent.The Drac gets his food ration, even if he's the one growing the corn, while the State deliberately caps his children's upwards mobility through the education system. We could go on, life under the Clans is at worst a side grade with significant benefits for a Drac.
>>98164581Mostly just assuming it’s the bears invading them not jag
>>98164590Even the Jags brought peace to the Dracs.
>>98164601How is the weather on Huntress these days?
>>98164536Though we don't know what became of the Great House Fiefdoms/Succession States and the Periphery States by 3250 other than the claim that the Clan-run 3rd Star League did expand into the Periphery (going by the mention that Auditor Clusters are operating as far as the Periphery to prevents arms manufacturers there from providing weapons to dissidents; pic contains the respective introductions of Technical Readout: Clan Invasion and Technical Readout: Jihad). I mean, that's how the 1st Star League was cemented on in the first place: stomping on whatever freedoms were offered in the Periphery because I doubt the Clans who opted to be the 3rd Star League would leave them alone.
A more retarded extrapolation of how ethnic cultures and civilizations would adapt to becoming spacefaring than BattleTech, did not exist until the release of Infinity
>>98164581>Even a Clan working caste member gets to interact with a real doctor when they're sickClan laborers have the average life expectancy you'd see in some of the worst third world countries on earth.
>>98164581Fedrat propaganda got you buggin'.
>>98164682
>>98164682The general assumption is that most planets do have their own specific planetary culture below the official, interstellar one they are counted among. Colonization happened well before the formation of the Great Houses, after all, and the majority of succ states concede wide autonomy to how people organize their daily lives in their respective gravity wells.There's a lot of life happening below the interstellar elite culture, really.
>>98164682My personal favorite is the United Hindu Collective willfully subordinating itself under the heavily Eurocentric FedSuns without a fight or any attempt at negotiated autonomy.
>>98164693That is while Clan warriors have the average life expectancy of a medieval peasant.And mind, that's their actual life expectancy as still births and early childhood deaths are probably below the single digits.
>>98164581>Even a Clan working caste member gets to interact with a real doctor when they're sick.And get put down if they decide treating them is not worth the effort.
Word of Blake scientist (left) and Comstar scientist (right)
>>98164748Society After Work Party be like.
This is the typical Drac diet BTW>Ninja Slayer is that you
>>98164581The combined medical prowess of the FWL and FedSuns couldn't successfully cure the Marik heir's childhood leukemia. No one in the IS has great state health care, so the obaasan down the street's generations-old apothecary treatment is no worse a choice than anything else.
>>98164775
>>98164780I still don't understand why VSD went full retard there. I mean, "I'm sorry, we tried our best, but..." happens all the time in the hospital but people rarely blaim the doctors
>>98164785The kid also was a hostage.
>>98164785In addition to what >>98164796 said, he was scared of what Sun-Tzu Liao could do after he announced that he will marry Isis Marik. Then there's how Melissa being assassinated, which made Victor not think clearly.
>>98164785>I still don't understand why VSD went full retard thereI genuinely believe Victor thought Hanse was infallible, so any plan concocted by Hanse must also be infallible. If there was any voice in his head telling him the risks of the ruse being discovered, he drowned it out cheering for Daddy's flawless planning.
>>98164780In-vitro fertilization being controversial and Leukemia treatment still being experimental, cutting edge stuff date old BT fiction very precisely.
Is the lack of JJs less of a big deal in Introtech? Or more?
I like to imagine that during his imprisonment on Tharkad, Adam Steiner arranged .... for Nicolai Malthus to be bummed in prison
>>98162102Go with the times chud. It's more important to make sure that Clans are seen as inclusive to freebirthers than exclusive fascists. How can you even make this post with the state of the world right now? Do you have no empathy??
>>98164829It highly depends on the function of a mech. Some mechs benefit greatly from having them. Some can afford to lose them and would gain in capability.
>>98164829JJs can be potent, but enough things on the field lack them that not having them isn't crippling.
oh golly a free novella>looks inside>tranny mary sue protagonist defeats the evil TERF with superpowers her transition gave her>written by a trannyIts so fucking over
>>98164877The only lore that matters is the stuff that /btg/ comes up with anyway.
>>98164877It's always odd that they'd put a tranny in the MoC, who, of all states, are the most likely to be TERFs. Most of the rest of the sphere will probably give you a pass after your social transition, but the MoC was literally, actually, founded on the principle of female supremacy and were written back when political lesbianism hadn't yet completely been relegated to the bins of history.
>>98164877It gets funnier when you realise that only reason "she's" even writing stories is because some years back he wrote an article about some BT community bravely fighting against the Chuds and CGL's seminal "you will not be missed" moment. When CGL desperately looked for an easy way to virtue signal before the little attention BT gets turns into negative, he was right there for easy inclusivity points. So now he gets to pretend he's a writer as well as pretending he's a woman. I'd say vote with your wallet, but at least CGL is smart enough to realize nobody would or should pay for this drivel lmfao
>>98164892Isn't that the point? If you wanna brainwash a setting to be inclusive for some new mental illness, you don't start with the factions that are most likely to be inclusive. You start with the ones that are least likely to be inclusive so the original fanbase has nobody to canonically rally behind. Basically a humiliation ritual. Like those articles claiming the Nazis were actually super gay and all just closeted homos.
>>98164893>I'd say vote with your wallet, but at least CGL is smart enough to realize nobody would or should pay for this drivel lmfaoUntil it gets rotated into the "paid" short story compilation like all the other "free" ones they've released
>>98164908Are people actually stupid enough to pay for free short stories? I mean yes they are. But I assume that the number of supportfags in the BT community must be abysmally small
>>98164913Slap Bryan Youngs name on it and it will
>>98164738They had semi-autonomy right up until the first succession war when the reality of coordinating a nukefest and attempting to prevent a four way incoming nukefest (keyword: attempting) forced them to not be that anymore.
>>98164843Shouldn't have messed with MY HOME PLANET
>nom-missile boat mechs with only one LRM launcher>2~3 tons of LRM ammofucking why
>>98164900Thing is, the whole sphere seems to be politically heterosexual. It's not like they think being trans is fine, they just think that it's okay to identify as and act on the standards of either of exactly two genders. If you're trans, you gotta pick your box and stick with it.Being that space colonization has diversified human culture to an extreme degree, they're generally very liberal about how people organize their personal lives and relationships, but they don't appear to be liberal about gender identities at all.
>>98164829If you're putting together a multi-purpose lance for a regular game it is advisable to have at least one jump capable mech, and I usually put in two. Sometimes you really need to get a mech somewhere sooner rather than later and the terrain isn't cooperating.
>>98164936Smoke, thunder, swarm, etc
>>98164959Core rules also making smoke standard tech if I recall right?
>>98164827>In-vitro fertilization being controversial It still is. It's an offense against God's will and is heretical at the very least. Women indulging in such perversion should be put to death.
>>98164184>The question is; did Teresa Rook really do well enough to be rewarded with such an honor?No, she did not. She doesn't do much that's of note in the book besides fight off some poorly written Hell's Horses and wastes weeks capturing a planet via diplomacy when the Clan could've conquered it in a day.
>>98164968>and wastes weeks capturing a planet via diplomacy when the Clan could've conquered it in a day.so there you have it. the brave woman showing a new way of doing things
>>98164918Man, then I am wildly misremembering the timeline. I could have sworn the UHC jumped into bed with the FedSuns as far back as when the Sarna Supremacy was the "local" bully nation everyone was unionizing to defend against.
>>98164976That happened well before the Davion Clan did the Palpatine thing to Parliament, no?
>>98164968>>98164972Miss us yet?
>>98164982Davions took over fully in 2418, UHC linked up with the early FedSuns in 2315.
>>98162102>>98164968>>98164972I could see them granting her the SaKhan based on bringing in results without depleting what little is left of the warrior caste, but she should've hit the glass ceiling with that and be excluded from the repository, same way the Spirit Cats used to cut anyone suspected of being a psychic.
>>98165010Also she's going to hate her job and Clan once the first batch of proper Falcon sibkos come of age and/or the ranks get refilled with warriors who test back in.
>>98164938>Being that space colonization has diversified human culture to an extreme degree, they're generally very liberal about how people organize their personal lives and relationships, but they don't appear to be liberal about gender identities at all.But would it be a problem if the ruler of nation-states that aren't the Draconis Combine nor Capellan Confederation isn't straight?
>>98163846Taurians V Space Japan.An all out war we all want to see.Sadly unless the bulls get some proper warships I dont think the Kurita would hold back on orbital nukes.
>>98164968>fight off some poorly written Hell's HorsesHow many did she kill?
>>98164976They did, but they were still considered semi-autonomous until the succession wars. I kind of assume their semi-autonomy mostly just came down to not being drafted for offensive operations and keeping their world governments democratic.
>>98165025Not really, as long as they'd be willing to count the stains on the ceiling and think of the First Lord's throne occasionally. Those states also aren't liberal and the Dracs are explicitly noted for being sexist.But even if they aren't, the Houses seemingly trace legitimacy the same way the Clans do - in a pinch, anybody's okay as long as they're still distantly related.
>>98165010>same way the Spirit Cats used to cut anyone suspected of being a psychic.???Do you mean the Nova Cats? They started to do that as they drifted from being full on vision guided lunatics near the end of the Dark Age before their destruction, the Spirit Cats are still about visions and guidance.
>>98165106Behold.
>>98163915Indeed...>>98164967>It still is. It's an offense against God's will and is heretical at the very least. Women indulging in such perversion should be put to death.Ok, no meat for you then.
Are there any novels or short stories set in, focused on and following characters belonging to the Clan Protectorate? There's some about the Spirit Cats but I want to read about the SC post-Protectorate founding.
>>98162702Best I can do are AR-10 prototypes and shoulder-fired recoilless mortars.
>>98165114Oh now I get it.
>>98164785It's an idiot ball plot just like everything else leading up to the FedCom civil war
>>98164938>Being that space colonization has diversified human culture to an extreme degree, they're generally very liberal about how people organize their personal lives and relationships, but they don't appear to be liberal about gender identities at all.Indeed, this is a setting where you can be Honse or Attack Helicopter for crying out loud!>>98165066>But even if they aren't, the Houses seemingly trace legitimacy the same way the Clans do - in a pinch, anybody's okay as long as they're still distantly related.Because anyone will do as long as the Jumpships arrive on time!
>>98165138>Indeed, this is a setting where you can be Honse or Attack Helicopter for crying out loud!That happens in Space Vegas, in outer space, in the extraterritorial holdings of a periphery state.That's Epstein Island, Afghan Dancing Boys, Dubai Porta Potty and Japanese themed limited edition collectible onaholes territory.
>>98163358Fuck off manic
>>98165138Again, fuck off manic/nd. Don't you have another looney tunes esque plot to kill your mom to carry out?
>>98162231>He suggests founding Bloodhouses from the SaKhan and the Freebirth main character of the book.Seems reasonable. Although, I don't like Falcons being allowed to copycat Warden Clans
Instead of overcompensating by stuffing trannies into everything, Battletech could have met its DEI quota by a straightforward, earnest portrayal of a normal homosexual relationship, such as the one between VSD and Kai Allard Liao
>>98165271Bad example, Kai was hopelessly straight. VSD would be his toxic stalker.
>>98165271I would've appreciated more sexy brown/black/asian bitches instead for the quota.
>>98164742Warriors also certainly discounts those who die before passing a trial of position. So if you actually manage to become a warrior odds are you'll be dead after about 27 years of service.
>>98162911Dumbass nigger faggot literally every inner sphere nation stratifies its populace the same way. Clan warrior caste is the equivalent of nobility just with drac levels of fight autism.
>>98162231Yep, that sure sounds like it was written by bryan young, a limp wristed loser who copes with being a completely brainwashed onions chugger and a failure of a parent since his kids are mentally ill trannies. At least his bloodline ends with his failed subhuman spawn.
>>98165388Are you going to pay CGL to write for them?Doubtful they even pay Young...
>>98165027I think the Taurians would just be happy to be given something worthy of note to do for a change instead of being a Reunification War and Star League footnote.
>>98164783isn't this the book they sold for real money by quickly googling some internet recipes, copy pasting them, changing some words, and slapping them together?
>>98165066in universe it is also noted that the dracs arefull-pants-on-head-retarded sexist, like blatantly ignoring the capability of any woman who joins the DCMS, no matter how skilled she turns out to be, despite the ignorance and shit training etc the women get.everyone laughs at them, hell it is a known thing for mercs to specifically trawl the DCMS for female recruits because they can hire them cheap and get really great warriors.it also helps the DCMS and DC at large wear the designated bad guy hat, if they have such a glaringly 'evil retard' flaw to cripple them.
>>98165357truemost of my Capellan MechWarriors are ABGs
>>98165529>in universe it is also noted that the dracs arefull-pants-on-head-retarded sexist, like blatantly ignoring the capability of any woman who joins the DCMS, no matter how skilled she turns out to be, despite the ignorance and shit training etc the women get.At yet so many of the novels are filled with women in power and important women within the military. Cope chud.
I think this'll be the Davion Trio. Luckily, von Wimmersberger came through with a machine pistol that kinda fits into the manual of arms and uses alloy in the lower receiver. That the Venus 22-2 also is another quality von Wimmersberger shitpost of a gun design is naturally appreciated.
>>98165576love the 80s aesthetic
>>98165529I miss the Dracs being the best individual warriors but shit at cooperation and full of vendettas. Like, some dude in a Panther solos a Rifleman in a duel, but his lancemate in a Shadowhawk lets him get surrounded by the rest of the Feddie lance just to watch him die.>That's for siccing the ISF on my Uncle Kenji-san, MacGregor-dono.
>>98165529Gives me an idea for the Girls und Mech universe. Combine school that specializes in the teaching mech piloting to the tomboy daughters of disappointed Tai-sho who really wished they had sons instead.
>>98165565>most of my Capellan MechWarriors are ABGsI kneel, mechwarrior.
>>98165587this. the DCMS hasn't conquered the IS because they can't stop the internecine personal shitfuckery when they're not explicitly fucking stopped by some officer who has to herd cats.the LCAF hasn't conquered the IS because they've got retarded officers herding cats... off a cliff every generation or so.the AFFS hasn't because they're just so poor and plucky and haven't the numbersthe capellans just have nothing and are too busy doing evil retarded spy shit instead, the dumbshit commies that they are. and the mariks well, even the mariks hate the mariks.the faction's flaws is how they were balanced.
>>98165601as a sort of "*sigh* yes dear, we will send you to the 'mechwarrior academy' next year we promise" with dad signing her up to a prep school, a ladies prepatory/debutante school, that also happens to have a mech program /club they can join. because he thinks he's going to send her off to be a good combine lady and turn her into wife materiel for the son of his family's friend.only the school's mech program is overseen by some ex DCMS woman warrior who is like 0/1 and a tactical genius or some shit and therefore the program is really popular because they kick all the other schools asses a lot.except this year, they're introducing a JUNIOR league for the first years... Enter our young girl heroes, with protagonist daughter-san leading the way.
continued. I am thinking a 'rock is a lady's modesty' type show, except with high octane mech fights to the tune of heavy metal instead.GuP X RiaLM. if you will. bonus points if they get japanese metal acts to perform for it like a lot of shows do now.
bonus points for if one of the girls on the heroines' team has heard about rhonda snord,so she covers her Dragon with speakers so she can blast Band Maid or Ningen songs throughout fights, explaining that its 'psy war'
>>98165624>>98165639FUND IT!
>>98164185I always imagined certain parts got custom built in the dropship or on some industrial planet
>>98165609DCMS problem really has come across that it isn't a case of "Nothing else matters but gaining victory for the Combine!" but more "Nothing else matters but me gaining victory for the Combine!" There is so much rivalry between districts all wanting to prove they are the best. Imagine a soccer team but every player is Ronaldo.LCAF is one I wouldn't actually say is a problem with the officers. The problem is the way the Lyran Commonwealth itself and forces are made up in general. Lyrans have to defend worlds that are not strategically important otherwise Tamar and Skye would cede as they are scared of losing further territory. Lyran forces I'd also say is more of an offensive rather than defensive oriented force in that their mechs for example aren't exactly made for holding the line but smashing it open hence why they absolutely spanked the Combine in 3028 when they were allowed to go on the attack for a change.AFFS has the numbers. More than any other house. The problem is lack of industry to back it up and leadership funny enough. Leadership for the Suns is a mixed back where one generation you get tactical geniuses and the next you get mouthdrooling retards. There is no inbetween.CCAF is constantly on the defensive and overstretched. Whenever they seem to get a break the Chancellor usually gets the bright idea of instead using the breathing room given to build up reserves and supply stocks they must immediately go on the offensive which ends up suicidal for the forces involved and they go straight back to the defensive. FWLM is kind of similar to the DCMS problems except instead of trying to fight for the greater whole they are more in it for their individual region. Each region has its own armed forces essentially and don't care about others. Arguably could draw parallels to warlord China in that if they asked to fight somewhere they may decide to show up if they feel like it and also if it is in their interest.
>>98165624>only the school's mech program is overseen by some ex DCMS woman warrior who is like 0/1 and a tactical genius or some shit and therefore the program is really popular because they kick all the other schools asses a lot.She's a former ISF operative and the ISF are very eager for these young girls to get the best training they can get away with without drawing too much attention as they eye them as potential future recruits.>>98165639>>98165662See this is what the Battletech cartoon really should have been all along!
>>98165761>The problem is lack of industryWe gotta add that the Davion create skid rows along their contested borders - zones where they deliberately impoverish systems to the point where using them as staging grounds generates additional logistic burdens on the attackers.That they lose parts of their own economy in the process doesn't matter to them.
Is the inner sphere battle cobra any good?
>>98165779Its legit not bad for what it is. MRM changes might make it pretty good. You really are going to want to be using it as a C3 level II though otherwise a lot of configs waste tonnage on the computer.
>>98165778Really? I thought it was just the outback that was their main detriment
>>98165799They have a lot of outback but what anon said >>98165778 is also correct. Federated Suns is the largest Great House but that doesn't mean much when most of the worlds are a bunch of dirt farmers and making dresses for noblemen as their most advanced capability.
>>98165778>We gotta add that the Davion create skid rows along their contested borders - zones where they deliberately impoverish systems to the point where using them as staging grounds generates additional logistic burdens on the attackers.Untrue. Skid row is the current Periphery March, and the only people that gave a fuck about them were the Sandovals, border lords who actually tried sending supplies and mobile schools and maintained good relations into the ilClan, to the point Sherwood and similar worlds are working on coming back. Also, reminder that Aaron Sandoval was always right, and Hanse cucked out.
>>98165515Isn't that every tie in cookbook?I remember buying the onions wars cookbook when I was a teen and it recipes like fucking mashed potatos with the most basic ass 3 ingredient recipe you can imagine. But hey they called it tatooine mash or something, so its totally worth buying a book for.
If the Davions (Anglos) represent all that is noble about Western character and civilization, then the Lyrans (Germans) embody all that is reprehensible, including decadence, materialism, hubris, inflexibility, nepotism, greed, scheming and degeneracy
>>98165380You haven't read enough about the inner sphere or the clans if you think the average person in a clan is living just as well as the average person in any IS state.
>>98165388>>98165423Is that Kell Hounds unit he's writing for some sort of tranny-brigade he cooked up or is it just coincidence that the crest shares pride flag colors?
>>98165948Davions are everything good and bad about King Arthur's court.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbYpufLjEQ
>>98164743So basically modern Canada?
>>98165948Everyone likes to say Lyrans are German but that is false. Only a third are. One third are Pakistani and the other third are Scottish.Davions are more Norman-Anglo and Steiner is more Saxon-Anglo. Combine both realms and you get the full Anglosphere represented.
>>98162261BMM should be enough for just about anything mech-related, even for experienced players.Don't worry about quirks though, since those largely don't come into play outside of RPGs and wargame campaigns. You'll want to print off appropriate record sheets if you can, which CGL should have in their downloads section for the battletech web site.Note that there is supposed to be a new rulebook coming out "in the summer" (CGL being CGL, probably more like they'll have a limited run in ready for Gencon and the rest of us will get access somewhere between September and January), but I'm not sure how quickly people plan on changing over if at all. Even beyond the playing card sized battlefield support "we swear it's not alpha strike" versions of all non-mechs being pushed as standard, a bunch of the rules changes seem poorly thought out and more to address gripes of people that only just started to play.
>>98165388>since his kids are mentally ill tranniesAh yes, the Neil Druckman school of thought>"once I had a daughter, it changed my entire view on the world, and I realized I can't keep making media for men and boys"
>>98164653The war between canopian cat girls and wolf boys kinda got out of control, okay.
>>98163175Just realized it’s armor sucks There are lights w more protection.
>>98166155That's just Shadow Hawks being Shadow Hawks, take a look at the 2D some time. It fucking sucks.
>>98162746Most of the time all I can come up with is replacing the head SRM2 and ammo with another LRM5, sharing the existing bin. It more or less creates a not-dragon, but more importantly it lets it be better at one role instead of trying to wear every hat at once.Another possibility is dropping a ton of armor and downgrading the AC5 to a 2, to install another LRM5 and an extra ton of LRM ammo, further specializing it to be a low-heat, long ranged fighter.The old Davion Shad could instead get the AC5 upgraded to a 10, either keeping both SRM2s but ditching the LRMs or vice versa, depending on whether you want close combat or mixed range. I'd lean more towards the LRMs but that ends up making a not-Centurion with trash armor.
>>98163175Could drop 4 heatsinks for armor and it would still be heat neutral.
>>98164653>>98166056damn the lore really nosedived
>>98166267I was drowsy when I was building it so I didn't think of it until later, but I'll commit to a half-assed design instead of revising. Comedically oversinked Battlemechs aren't out of the ordinary for 3025 anyways.
I now have a Star of IndustrialMechs :D
>>98166286Very on brand as well considering the 2K is oversinked.
>>98166298Kino. Be sure to let us know how they perform on the table anon.
>>98166222Why don’t they just use striker lights? It’s cheaper and nearly as survivable?
>>98166233Only other thing I can think of myself cheats with machine guns so I put a full ammo bomb in the chest to compensate and I have questions regarding whether it will be any good anyway. It does feel like a Combine militia design meant to spend most of its time dealing with rioters with the PPC being just for show.
>>98164877What is that other sigil for. Circinus?
>>98166268Didn’t stockpole era MWDA have ‘yarg I am evil!’ Tier villains and Mary sue heroes galore?Maybe making all the old heroes lose and having new factions duke it out is a step up. Or maybe it’s just funny that they’ve spun Canopus into being a credible threat to the new star league
>>98166431it's just boring and contrived, like most everything tied to the capellans since xin sheng
>>98166411Not everyone has ready access to the striker lights that are available during the Succession Wars. Everyone has ready access to a Shad and spare parts. Although the 2D is still sheer retardation of the highest order.
>>98164892You’re assuming your 2020s autism is going to be culturally relevant a millennia later which is a reach. Also Canopus is Ancap cyberpunk that sells sex which is fundamentally incompatible with radical feminism (does not like capitalism or sex). There’s no plausible reason a state that makes mermaid and centaur hookers would draw the line at womanizing twinks. > on the principle of female supremacy retconned https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Adam_BuquoyMAF’s reunification war commander was a man, and politically important. It makes more sense to make them the degenerate cyberpunk power when a ‘kill all men power couldn’t function’ and was bad 80s pulp.
Abomination of a mixed tech attempt to do a Shadowhawk that's the most Dougram-like I could make it.Really wish I could do a one-shot smoke launcher SRM2. Targeting computer is there to be the X-nebula proof advanced computing thing, reduced jumpjets (that ack I just realised are not symmetrical... eh I'll fix it later) because Dougram I think doesn't have that big a jump distance... terrifyingly it should apparently be a 3/5 movement but I wasn't willing to gimp it that much), capacitor'd heavy PPC because it fit best for the big linear gun, heavy medium for a still going to shred regular one, I almost under-armoured the left arm given it gets blown off repeatedly but I figured that the amount of shots it tanks otherwise warranted otherwise. Pilot would need a massive amount of Edge though even if half the time he still can't hit shit unless it's headshot after headshot.
>>98166438If you actually read the House book, the kid was very smart about using his position in the SL and the Trinity Alliance to get planets back while regenerating his forces and industry.He was in a pretty good position politically as well, what with Victor being uninterested in pursuing war against non-Clan opponents and Candace having quit the Confederacy mainly to protect her side of the family from the nutty parts.
>>98166499The Soltic's launchers seem more like MRMs than LRMs to me, but I'm early enough into the show that I haven't even seen Dougram's first fight that isn't out of order. You could switch the SRM2 for an I-OS model, or just go full Clan since Dougram is such a step up from the Combat Armors around it.
>>98166493Buquoy was such a boss
>>98166557BasedAlso, hiring an army when you have no army but need pros is a very ancap move.
What are the implications of Nicholas Kerensky's wife being the last living Cameron, thus making the Kerensky bloodhouse the only legal successors to the seat of the First Lord?
>>98166298>Modded Industrial Mechs>Republic Splinter Faction>Clan Warriors Thinking They're Hot Shit Despite Piloting TractormechsPeak Dark Age desu. Nice.
>>98166458It’s weird because you think it would be easier to get an economy of scale on striker lights and use them en mass as peons. The dracs basically do.Using a 55t in the succession wars instead of a pawn means losing a fairly big machine that cost a lot of resources.
>>98165989Now that I think about it, Ruber would make for a great Clanner. The fucking unit kills a dragon with a punch, for chrissakes.>>98166603Nothing: Nicky was insane, his bloodline useless, and he died an hilarious death. If only his crazed followers didn't take his ramblings too seriously.
>>98166603Little as they never will do anything about it just like they decided to do nothing with the idea of Ian Cameron and Amanda Cameron surviving. Besides if they did go down that route then technically House Davion has a stronger claim to the title then due to marrying into the Cameron family previously with someone much closer in line to the throne. >>98166633Whole economy in Battletech makes no sense and usage of a unit is based on what each faction can either physically build or get a hold of. Most common weight category in the late Succession Wars is medium and they have never really explained exactly why other than there is just more of them around.
>>98166656>Now that I think about it, Ruber would make for a great Clanner.Change his hair blonde and put some EI implants on him and you got Nicolai Malthus
>>98166699Third Succwar Lights are either undersinked or undergunned, Heavies have schizophrenic loadouts, and Assaults are narratively nonexistant. Mediums get to fill in as either muscle for scout lances or support for heavies, and can do pretty decently at either.
>>98166699It makes no sense indeed. Smaller chassis means less exotic alloys and fusion parts you can barely produce spent. A High-Low strategy with a lot of 30-35t pawns and handful of bigger force multipliers should have won you the economic side of the succession wars.Tangent but is it fair to assume in a flavor text kind of way that older inner sphere mechs are going to have much trouble locking onto clan omnis and will suffer from a lot of sensors snow and dropped locks to standard clan ecm the same way old Cold War fighters would struggle to lock modern? Mostly just for describing how your machine can’t keep up narrative purposes not gameplay.
>>98166633Most light mechs aren't that great for actual combat. They tend to be designed for scouting, with the exception of a few that are basically skinny mediums. Mediums are the lightest class that make for good all-round fighting mechs, so it makes sense they're the standard trooper mechs for most factions (aside from Dracs, but the Panther and Dragon are just a skinny medium and a fat medium).
>>98166739>Third Succwar Lights are either undersinked or undergunnedUndersinked maybe but a lot of them are extremely well armed. Much better armed than a lot of mediums.>>98166771Yeah if there is anything about say a heavier engine is more expensive but didn't require as much work or time to make as a lower weight engine so you were in a situation where you have a more expensive option available now or can have the cheaper option a month down the line then maybe would make slightly more sense.Incidentally the throw light mechs at a problem in numbers it the Combine solution to the succession wars.
>>98166860Also jenner, commando (sort of), javelins, fireflies (tanky laser boat) and slow fleas never mind clan designs. There’s enough that you could spam out a lot of light strikers that would be slightly inferior to mediums but be much easier economically . The 30-25 ton range saves you almost half the material you’d spend on a shawk
>>98166864What if the reason for DC webery is that you need to get the striker light peon pilots hyped up to die so that the high-low strategy works.>throw light mechs at a problem in numbersAren’t they supposed to be economically and resource poorer than the LC and FS they’re often fighting double wars against? Maybe the high low strategy is what made it work?
>>98166005Fuck. Picturing clanners as a bunch of French-Canadians up their own assholes makes the clans suddenly make a lot more believable.
>>98166885Of those the Jenner and Commando really are getting built during the Succession Wars. Flea does open up a line again due to the Goons but they don't exactly become common.>>98166906They can't really decide the reason. One minute its because its what they have. Next minute its that they just prefer that strategy because of the speed and mobility the lighter designs offer. Keep in mind the Combine came up with "horde" tactics which is a fancy way of just drown an enemy in bug mechs.>>98166952Yeah but they will never say sorry.
>>98166554There's a bit later where they accurately shoot down some helicopters with the missiles (what don't they manage to kill helicopters with...) but an MRM is definitely another option.Or just going pod-less. Here's an shot at doing a full ilclan era clantech refit, minus the missile pod. ferro-lamellar armour for a laugh and because plot armour.I think easiest option would be just going full abstract and doing an Alpha Strike only stats version of everything, not having to follow construction rules. Same as the anon who did the Gundam stuff.
>>98165989Do these characters already exist in universe? If not, I wish to stat them. What mechs would they pilot and what would their color schemes be. There's also the issue of who be their 4th.
>>98166954I’m going to believe it’s really for economics since that lets them fight two front wars against richer enemies. And probably the guy who planed out the grand strategy just used honor as an excuse to get people to buy in… and then maybe people forgot. Panther has a cheap engine and is cheap logistically.I love chess pawns and massed trash units in other games so maybe just projecting tho
>>98162746I made this some time ago. Take your pick of possibilities.
>>98166493They're female supremacists. Would South Africa support blacks who identify as white?
>>98167024Not according to reunification war canon >Would South AfricaMaybe you should go and move to Africa if you care so much about your tribalism.Capitalism, lookism, and anything goes space Vegas with cyberpunk body mods don’t fit your radical feminism headcanon.You still have the Greater Valkyrate to self insert with.
>>98162746Needing a ballistic is precisely what makes it bad and steps on the toes of the Wolverine. Removing the ballistic gun is how a Shad is supposed to get a distinct identity.
>>98167019Well one of the fans of drowning enemies in trash mechs is a 16 year old Draconis Combine schoolgirl piloting a Stinger because of a crush she had on sensei, so it doesn't seem to be economically motivated. Panther being spammed by the Combine also appears to be because they just so happened to have the factories when the Star League fell apart rather than it being supposedly cheap even if the latter makes more sense.
>>98166885>>98166954You guys are both forgetting a very important aspect though. The high ranking nobles don't want to pilot a fucking Stinger!When you're managing an army and planning production logistics, legions of bug mechs sounds great. When you're going to be personally on the battlefield and leading from the front, all of the sudden you're not okay with your army being nothing but bugs.Having a mech of any kind is a huge status symbol. Yet within that sect of society is another one, in which the type of mech you own is a further status symbol. The Lyran who owns a Commando is greater than the mech-less, yet the one who owns a Griffin will be envied by the Commando owner and they will both recognize the Zeus owner as even further up the food chain.Of course there will be exceptions to this, but the mech you own matters. So you're going to make sure there's a mech available for your noble hide that isn't just a bug mech.
>>98167078Then it's just a fat, underarmored Griffin that sucks at zoning instead of a fat, underarmored Wolverine that sucks at shotgunning people. SHD's identity is being a confused mess that has a gun for any range and not being able to bring them all to bear at once.
>>98167102>the one who owns a Griffin will be envied by the Commando owner and they will both recognize the Zeus owner as even further up the food chain.Don't tell Griffinfag that!
>>98167115The Shad is meant to contribute to the fight at any range, yet it will also lose 1 on 1 at any range. Unless you're the true protagonist of Battletech. Then you're going to 1v2 a Crusader and a Marauder in one.
>>98167102>>98167093Stinger is almost a strawman since it’s bait without offensive power. A panther is almost a pocket medium though. You can build enough thanks to its cheap engine and logistics that you can field en masse and you can save your heavies or heavy mediums for nobles.
>>98167123There's nothing that says you can't prefer a lighter mech, it's just generally more prestigious to own/pilot a heavier one. That's how the masses are likely to see it, but if you're a confident Mechwarrior that knows what he's doing, you likely won't even notice when the Zeus pilot is trying to make your feel bad about your Griffin.
>>98167134Panther is great. Anyone calling it a trash mech hasn't been paying attention. As numerous as they may be in the DC, I'm sure the bug mechs still outnumber them.
>>98167115Which is why it shouldn't be a ballistic, PPC, nor missile. This conversation has been had before. Put a large laser there. That's it.
>The Zeus looks down on the Griffin and Commando >The Griffin looks up to the Zeus but looks down on the Commando>The Commando knows his place
>>98167157At first glance it seems bad since it can get outrun by a ton of bigger things that can kill it, but it’s cheap, and in lore since it’s got a small engine it’s extra cheap to build in a ruined economy, so just build a ton and use them to hold the line while Jenner flank and you can destroy stuff worth a lot more than what your losses cost you.>>98167102>>98167150I wonder what 3150s hereditary mech warriors are going to think about mechs being ubiquitous enough that a rich influencer in a place with laws like Canopus could buy them like someone would buy a Warbird in the modern day and go ‘hey I’m like you’.
>>98166603About the same as the implication that Daisuke Kurita is still alive, which if true makes him the Coordinator by dint of legitimate birth, which Yori cannot claim.
>>98167214>I wonder what 3150s hereditary mech warriors...Hey influencer, heard you were talking shit. Meet me in the Solaris Arena in your mech or you'll be meeting me alone in a back alley without your mech.
>>98167200Sometimes those with the most, have the greatest insecurities. You never know what they're thinking.
>>98165977And you clearly haven't either, since you're deliberately ignoring the vast numbers of planets whose populations live in literal slavery to local dictators, who stay in power so long as the shit their planet produces is shipped to another planet.
>>98167285Name five, you Marxist parrot
>>98167157>>98167214In lore the Panther was a underperforming SLDF project that would have likely been shelved eternally if the succession wars hadn't kicked off. Over time pilots grew to love it as it became pretty good for the type of fighting that was being done. It is actually somewhat amusing that a good few mechs often associated with the DCMS are basically a bunch of SLDF rejects, the Panther, the Dragon, the Charger etc. Combine doing so well with the arsenal they have is the equivalent of coming out on top with nothing but scraps built in a cave.>>98167265Kek'd
>>98167285Sean please go back to sarna.
>>98167310I don't think I'd lump the Dragon or the Charger in with the Panther. A Charger's only hope is to get into melee and the Dragon is supremely ugly and looking cool is the most important part of a mech. I'd take a Wolverine over a Dragon any day. I think I'd also take a Wolverine over a Charger. I love the Wolverine.
>>98167348Its more a statement that Combine didn't even get first or even second picks with the choices of their mechs. They got absolute last bottom of the barrel tier picks yet made do with what they had and still managed to buttrape the Lyrans and Suns.
>>98167365>...still managed to buttrape the Lyrans and Suns.Until a tiny fledgling mercenary company gets hired. How sad for the Dracs.
>>98167348>the Dragon is supremely uglykys fag
>>98167300
>>981674131 out of 6 chance, so vast a number!Retard
>>98167385The Dracs were going to get slapped once Katrina Steiner secretly started banging Hanse Davion.
What are the Sherman, Tiger and Panther of the BT?
>>98167464The sneak preview of that future slapping was 3039, but I think the FC dodged a bullet with the Clans showing up, because I think the Fifth Succ War would have bankrupted the FC militarily just putting the Dragon down. Teddy K was good enough to drag that out way longer than it ought to have gone, and there would be three crippled/neutralized states by the end of it, ripe for being raped by the neighbors.
>>(You) are now the ilKhan, circa 3049. You have up to date intel on the Inner Sphere. What do?
>>98167547I mean how much leeway do we have on how to go about Operation Revival?
>>98167537With the Comstar preparations that were happening could have legit seen Operation Scorpion occur with the full might of the Comguards backing it while everyone was bogged down. Then you'd have seen a resurrected Star League just as Blake envisioned. >>98167547Attack from the direction of the FWL and Capellan Confederation. Nobody would have lifted a finger to help them except maybe Comstar and even then it would be a question does Comstar actively fight in a Tukayyid scenario or swallow its pride and flood the FedCom, Combine and FRR with lostech in an effort to gain their support?
>>98167547Do my best to find all that mongol poetry about how their grandfathers lived in the saddle and drank only horse blood and now they live in a palace and don't know how to string a bow.
>>98167580>Attack from the direction of the FWL and Capellan Confederation.Would that even be possible?You'd have to go nearly all the way around the Inner Sphere.
>>98167505The Panther is a mech?The Tiger is a tank?Sherman is a chassis? >>98167608It is. Would take some extra time and strain supply lines even more but entirely possible. SLDF already done it before, hell some of the ships that took part in the invasion had made the same journey centuries before.
>>98167547First wave of Clans (the ones that won the first round) is a Wacky Race until we hit Terra, so that we can get the Ilkhan thing sorted out. Second wave (the ones that lost, but still want to participate) is in charge of establishing an invasion corridor.Winners get to pick the IlKhan, losers get first pick at establishing an occupation zone in the IS.
>>98167608The Dragoons came in from that direction. It wouldn't have been impossible, but it would have taken a Comstar blackout of several large Periphery states to mask the approach from the FWL, CapCom, and the FedSuns.
>>98167626>It is. Would take some extra time and strain supply lines even more but entirely possible.Yeah, but that's before Nicky K's Clan Autism has Crusaders making a straight shot to Terra.>>98167634>It wouldn't have been impossible, but it would have taken a Comstar blackout of several large Periphery states to mask the approach from the FWL, CapCom, and the FedSuns.And yeah, Clan's didn't exactly do well with the whole "Logistics" thing to begin with.
I'm not familiar with BT lore at all. But I'm currently playing MW5 and just finished the Legends of the Kestrel Lancers DLC campaign.In that you basically invade the Capellan Confederation. But what interests me is that its called "the fourth succession war". How is a mere invasion of a particular space a succession war between the houses for supremacy of the IS? And the peace treaty, at which the daughter of Maximillian Liao was absent and didn't sign, which is obvious given her space was just invaded, seems equally like a sham. Like, they just got invaded and then everyone decided its over and that's it and there's nothing to be done about it?
>>98167651>And yeah, Clan's didn't exactly do well with the whole "Logistics" thing to begin with.Well they just use fiat as they always do?
>>98167663>How is a mere invasion of a particular space a succession war between the houses for supremacy of the IS?The Capellan Confederation theatre was only a part of the Fourth Succession War. Meanwhile Lyrans attacked the Draconis Combine from their territory as part of Operation Götterdämmerung, held the line against Marik attacks, Combine tried to attack the Davions from their side but were repulsed heavily by mercs. Overall the Fourth Succession War was a stunning success for FedCom side and ended because they ran out of steam and couldn't go any further, the war had nearly bankrupted the Suns for example. Their enemies were in zero position to try a counter offensive because they were heavily crippled. So that is why it came to an end.
>>98167702I think it ended morevbecause of the Comstar
>>98167780Comstar had pull but not as much as you'd think. Black boxes heavily caught Comstar with their pants down.
>>98167663The difference between succession wars is a bit like the difference between battles in world war 1. No peace treaties ever get signed, but major offensives do stop. The game clearly does a bad job of showing it but the 4th succession war is marked by huge offensives involving dozens of mech regiments and potentially thousands of conventional regiments along fronts that stretch across most of settled space. The tail end of the 3rd war involves perhaps 3 mech regiments plus support invading a single world at the high end.
>>98167795>The game clearly does a bad job of showing itThat's a bit of an understatement. Tikonov was on par with Tukayyid in terms of forces involved. 8 RCTs is 72 regiments and the PGI game makes it feel like a slightly larger than normal raiding force.
>>98167547>Follow regular invasion route>Give Jaguars the "honor" of tying up three great houses by going around the Inner Sphere and attacking the FWL, LC, and CCLiterally just use your naval supremacy and the entire war is a cakewalk even without Comstar support.
>>98167666>Well they just use fiat as they always do?At that point Satan, you might as well have the Clan Worlds be in the Galactic South/Rimward in the first place.
>>98167505>What are the ShermanGriffin or Wolverine. Medium weight mechs which aren't flashy but are flexible, reliable workhorses.>Tiger King Crab. Big gun, lots of armor, not actually scary because you can just walk away and kite it with longer ranged weapons.>Panther of the BT?Exterminator? A good mech that was mobile despite its weight but massively complicated and quickly became lostech.
>>98167953>Not making an implausible scenario where logistics are stretched to breaking point and then handwaving all issues asideIts like you have never read up on the Battletech before?
Kerensky was a fraud. He dumps his Orion onto a junk moon near New Samarkand, but doesn't dump all the 'mechs there before bailing. If he ever intended a new Star League built on peace out in the deep dark, he would have abandoned every 'mech they took with them, stripped and junked, and gone on without them. Peace was never an option if he couldn't give up his war toys before running away.
>>98167861This throws me off so bad. Ww2 Regimental Combat Teams are just regiments with a little extra support to help them function autonomously, these space regiment combat teams are more of ww2 divisions
>>98167972Sure the writing is never any good, but fiat'ing around to the other side of the Inner Sphere for, what?Removing the Capellan as a faction?If we're doing that, why not focus on the Combine?!
>>98168018>This throws me off so bad.FS RCTs were conceived of by a woman, so the irrational is baked in.
>>98168018Well if it makes you feel any better, they literally fill the hole left when all the inner sphere powers abandoned the idea of Divisions as an organization. Regiments are as big as it gets most of the time, with Brigades as loosely administrative and cultural organizations above them in theory but not practice.
>>98168018>>98168082SLDF RCTs were more or less brigades and Davion versions are basically divisions by the Battletech own classification of the sizes funny enough. Its just for whatever reason writers seem to think that mixed formations is a taboo and they must be comprised mainly of one unit type. Only formation types that make some sense are the Clan and Comstar formations since they figured out mixing unit types should be a thing.>>98168022>Removing the Capellan as a faction?Yes. Remove Capellan.Whole point is that the Clans would go through the soft underbelly of the IS facing the weakest rather than strongest Houses and thus get closer to Terra.>>98168037Don't talk shit about Melissa. She was the only Davion that truly had balls.
>>98167285refer to>>98164693Average clanner is in a living hell from birth to death, average spheroid is having a pretty decent time.>but what about these exceptionsExceptions don't matter.>>98167413Living in a dictatorship does not mean someone's life is as bad as a clanner's.
>>98168118>She was the only Davion that truly had balls.Davions being nutless wonders is beside the point.
>>98168118>facing the weakest rather than strongest HousesBut also the strongest Periphery states. Maybe it was considered but the Clans didn't want to risk getting sandbagged in the Magistracy and Concordat. The Dragoons never served any of the Periphery nations, the Clans would have had no current intel of the status of those states or their capabilities.>but the Ilkhan was Leo ShowersA fair point, maybe it was never a consideration at all.
>>98168118>Whole point is that the Clans would go through the soft underbelly of the IS facing the weakest rather than strongest Houses and thus get closer to Terra.I mean the same could be said for focusing on the center of the Combine; Weaker than the Lyrans defensively, and going through the middle of their slice of the IS would force them to fight on three fronts.And we know from the current Ravens that the Outworlds Alliance is fairly chill if you let them do their own thing, so that's a good thoroughfare you don't need spend as much force Policing.
>>98168191>Outworlds AllianceShould have been conquered and absorbed by the Combine two centuries ago, their continued existence is the fiat of fiats.
>>98167547The clans sweep the entire inner sphere if rather than being chaotic stupid and trying to turn spheroids into laborers while pretending logistics aren't a thing, they just levy lenient tithes from "occupied" planets and conscript civilian shipping to handle supplies in the inner sphere while providing generous compensation in the form of resources(acquired from the planetary tithes) the shipping crews need.>hey instead of regular taxes we just need you to provide some resources and police yourselves>and you jumpship crews work for us now but literally all of your ships' and crews' material expenses are covered by us, you'll handle shipping between occupied worlds and handing off tithes to merchant caste logistics>any of you with a vendetta against the neighboring great house are becoming military police and get to take it out on particularly resistant worldsIf they can leverage even a fraction of spheroid industry to support their practically invincible military forces and uncontenstable warships, they just win. They already managed to conquer like a fifth of the inner sphere in a couple years despite being massive fuckups when it came to anything besides combat the entire time.It's emphasized that most worlds do not give a shit about who's governing them, so if you're asking for less than the last guy they'll be more than happy to wave your flag and give you some steel or food or whatever.
>>98168206>Snek can't accept they'd be curb stomped if they had to take the full might of the Clans>>98168224>It's emphasized that most worlds do not give a shit about who's governing them, so if you're asking for less than the last guy they'll be more than happy to wave your flag and give you some steel or food or whatever.And hell, you could leverage that whole "Bring back the Star League" angle pretty damn hard.
>>98167404https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqo4OZ0Pqs
>>98168243>full might of the Clans>Outworlds AllianceThese are not the same things, the OA was practically denuded of a military by the SLDF prior to the Civil War; if the Combine hadn't been too fixated on gains from the Hegemony and Lyran fronts, it could have swept the OA entirely in the 2800s at very low cost. The 1st Succession War stole that chance away, but there had been a window of opportunity there but the Dragon chose the other direction instead.
>>98168278>Can't take over a demilitarized backwater>Would somehow hold up against the full might of the Clans
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>>98168287Who said anything about the Clans? No single IS state could eat the full strength of the Clans, even the combined FedCom would have collapsed trying.
>>98168287Where are you getting that he's claiming DC could have soloed the clans?
>>98168311Fentanyl got that fool on a ride.
>>98168311Well they DO have magic bushido hands
>>98168306>Who said anything about the Clans?My original point was the Clans could use the Outworlds Alliance as a thoroughfare straight into the heart of Drac territory, which would probably go a LOT smoother than doing similar with the Lyrans.
>>98168297Getting pushed around like that but some PBI. Truly, the Dragon is the biggest joke of them all.
>>98168369Someone got bullied by Samurais growing up.
>>98168352Ahh, I see your point now. You're correct, the Combine couldn't have withstood that if the Clans had come in from the OA's direction, even if the OA itself didn't exist as a nation by then. It would have been an undefended flank.
>>98168374>Posts video of Dragon getting bullied thinking it's cool>Gets laughed at for it>Y-you must have been bullied!Kek. You insecure Drac weebs are always good for a laugh.
>>98168369Pain train comin'
>>98168375Exactly, coring out House Kurita paves the easiest road to Terra, while also giving you the best shot at bisecting the FedCom who aren't likely to come to the Sneks aid.
>>98168408The Fedcom did come to the DC's aid though even while under attack and distracted themselves. Going through Lyran territory is a better bet because if anything Dracs would attack the Fedcom while they're distracted. Pretty much order of states from most to least likely to help their enemy against the clans>FWL>Fedcom>Dracs>Cappies
>>98168449>The Fedcom did come to the DC's aid though even while under attack and distracted themselves.Yeah, because the Clans also attacked the Lyrans and established themselves to be an existential threat to all the Great Houses.You think that cooperation happens when the FedCom can sit pretty on both side lines?
>>98168391No canon Grand Dragon with a sword.WHY?!?!?
>>98168541A good question, especially given the 'mech sword has been perfected thanks to the work on No-Dachi. I'd sacrifice a medium laser or two to mount a sword in that left arm.
>>98168541Because draws can't have nice things. You'll take your Panther 10K and like it!
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>>98168622>be Wolf Trap>be a long-range killer>enemies learn your ammo bins are weak and start targeting them>LAW shutters down your production instead of sticking CASE on you to fix you>Jihad happens>storehouses full of you get dusted off>upgrades make you viable again>get a new lease on life as a light cavalry 'mechThanks for the second chance, WoB
>>98168654Wolf traps have case to start (WFT-1) "base one"Durallex Super Medium with CASE
>>98168660Then I wonder why it was such a big deal that the production run only lasted 10 years under the rationale of explosive ammo problems.
>>98168680It's simply that the Dracs are PPC freaks and don't like Centurion knockoffs. They'll put up with 20 class autocannon, but generally hate 10's and under until the DA.
>>98168700They ditch the AC entirely from later models. It's a plasma rifle on the -2 and a Gauss rifle on the -2B.
New Alpha Strike question: do VTOLs attack normally like a mech and other combat vehicles or like an aerospace fighter using their air-to-ground rules?I assumed it was the former since they move like other combat vehicles but looking at special pilot abilities shared by VTOLs and fighters they tend to mention air-to-ground rules for the pilot regardless of what he's piloting.
>>98168762Normal unless declaring a special attack like strafing or bombing, which replaces the normal attack and uses aerospace fighter rules for those same attack types. Pg 173-174 of Commander's Edition.
>>98168792Thanks. Will probably try flying something in an upcoming 4 player Aces campaign.
>>98168082Why use a WW2 nomenclature for an independent regiment. Any reader who knows about that will be thrown off. I’ve been treating RCT as regiments this entire time.>>98168037Like in universe or the author? Misusing the term has to be deliberate.>>98165138I tried to kill off the MAF femboy liaison since he was just supposed to be a ‘hahaha look at the wacky canopians’ that would be replaced with someone more fitting but everyone else ( playing as foxes and falcons) kept him from dying. So I guess hinterlands campaign will run with someone who used to wear wolf ears.
>>98168851In universe. Melissa Davion is who cooked up the idea.
>>98168854In real life who decided to make an RCT a division?
>>98168909The US War Department? The RCT system didn't last very long, because nukes. The Pentomic system replaced it in response to the feasibility of battlefield atomics becoming a normal thing. It changed again later after atomics didn't become common on battlefields.
>>98168941I meant the battletech authors that repurposed ww2 terms as something completely different.At least the army didn’t rename divisions as RCT to confuse people.> Pentomic systemIt sounds like RCT but battalion. Also sounds like the battalion system the Russians used to catastrophic failure in Ukraine.
>>98168973In that case I have no clue, whomever was writing for FASA at the time.
>>98168352>Clans could use the Outworlds AllianceAnd run straight into Davions half of FedCom
>>98168973>>98168992Just look at the authors in the House Davion Housebook. Also, pretty sure that was before the Warrior Trilogy and set in 3025 so shouldn't be Melissa responsible for it in-universe. Seems more like a thing that Hanse did after Ian died.
>>98168994
>>98168999>The Federated Suns would develop their own regimental combat teams thanks to First Prince Melissa Davion, after she came to power in 2876.
>>98168992That's my fav treb artwork by far.
>>98168487Yes because the clans were fairly obvious that their goals weren't conquering just one great house
>>98169145And yet it still took the Lyrans and the Combine collaborated that they were both attacked by strange, alien entities to start working together...
Home, home on Lagrange,Where the space debris always collects,We possess, so it seems, two of Man's greatest dreams:Solar power and zero-g sex.
So, say the sanity (and the Star Adders) prevail and the Inner Sphere gets a full second KLONDIKE bearing down on them with all 17 Clans showing up to come a'knockin'. The Jade Falcons, Wolves, Ghost Bears and Smoke Jaguars are shoo-ins as frontline Clans to start pushing into the Inner Sphere, but what about the other Clans? Would Clans that emphasize speed like Steel Viper and Ice Hellion then be Clans going on the flanks, hitting the FedCom's antispinward side and the Combine's spinward side + the Outworlds Alliance?
Purple bird status?
Kamen Mechwarrior would probably be fighting a Blakist splinter that's seeking total domination, but which house would he be coming from?
>>98169456dead, finally
>>98168541Melee weapons on Mechs are stupid and gay anyway. Mechs are walking gun platforms. They shouldn't be able to use melee attacks at all, let alone waste tonnage and crits on dedicated weapons for a useless form of combat.
>>98168973Language changes over time. Cry about it.
>>98169642Scrombles punch, you pussy
>>98164983>Miss us yet?Every day.
>>98169468Everyone knows bug people come from the Capellan Confederation.
>>98168700>generally hate 10's and under until the DA.They like UACs though. They just hate traps.
I'm thinking of picking this up to get into BT with a friend, is it worth getting?
>>98169962Its a pretty good intro box. The real fight will be whoever gets to play the Griffin.
>>98167453>the inner sphere consists of around 2000 planets that are colonized by humans>at least 300 are dictatorships running on slavery>megacorporations run the show in the inner sphere and effectively run entire planets however dystopian they please, so long as they pay lip service to the ruling house they operate under>hundreds of planets are barely viable hellholes where the colonists have even worse living conditions than clan civsThe inner sphere isn't that much better than the clans outside the most unmolested, highest developed core worlds of each interstellar nation. Its why some planets actually welcome clans coming in, because the quality of life actually IMPROVES.
>>98169962Both the Beginner Box and Essentials comes with a $20 rebate code for the Catalyst Games online store. You can only use one of them one time, but if you both decide to continue delving into Battletech with the typical next stage of the "A Game of Armored Combat" box, then you functionally reduce its price from $60 in their store to $40. Thus making the total price of Beginner Box/Essentials and then AGoAC only $65, making the Beginner Box damn near free.
>>98170037griffin supremacy strikes again.>>98169962look at that gorgeous mech.
>>98170201ok commie
>>98169339>hitting the FedCom's antispinward side and the Combine's spinward side + the Outworlds Alliance?I mean you'd probably want to focus down on one Great House's territory; Easier to collapse one faction to get to Terra quickly than fight on multiple fronts and barely gain any ground.
>>98169284They started working together because it was clear the threat was to the whole inner sphere. If the DC was attacked alone then the fedom would have eventually come to their aid because they don't want these hyper advanced autistic warriors to control a quarter of the inner sphere when their goal is to crush all the inner sphere powers
I always thought that Comstar being the one to blunt the invasion at Tukkayid was interesting. They avoided the obvious pick of every house making a united force and instead went for Constar busting out a secret army that rivaled the houses. Dont get me wrong I prefer what they went woth and having everyone work together on Bulldog/Serpent. It would have been such a stretch to get the CapCon to not backstab the entire thing or WL to even participate.
>>98170432And proud of it.
>>98170578The Cumguards were really no secret if you read the 20 year update. Comstar had change tactics in the 3030s are were actively deploying forces as "peacekeepers" and using them actively in humanitarian missions to the point everyone was starting to get comfortable seeing them around. People were well aware that Comstar had a load of mech regiments prior to Tukayyid and that a number of them were Star League vintage so them having this massive army and choosing not to use it would have been an epic blueball.
>>98170560>If the DC was attacked alone then the fedom would have eventually come to their aidYes but the key world there is "eventually".Sure the Fedcom would inevitably get involved, but instead of the rocky alliance of convenience that would form the Summerset Strikers, it's likely they wouldn't start moving to help until the Clans had already hollowed out a good chunk of Drac Space.And by then, the Clans would have a very solid foothold; At least a quarter if not two/thirds of the Combine, while that solidity is help in part by the Sneks already being culturally similar to the Clans in the first place.
>>98170607So much this. Clans would be like a deeply entrenched cancer. Attacking everyone in their path made everyone realize they had to fight this together. If they had just focused one Great House at a time then everyone else would have been too busy grabbing popcorn before they figured out might actually be better to help instead.
>>98170620Exactly!And like I previously mentioned, the Drac philosophy is already rather similar to the Clans, just replace House Kurita/The Dragon with IllClan/The Dragon but Clan.
Wolf cucked the sphere. Alaric did! He took a Wolf army to Terra. There was NO ONE left to cuck, da wimmiz wuz his.
>>98170648Non canon anyway. We all know the Combine has conquered the entire Inner Sphere.
>>98170607They already absorbed massive amounts of Drac space as well as most of the Rasalhague Dominion by the time anyone started working together. Additionally without being tied up in their own war the Fedcoms would have been able to launch a much more dedicated counterattack. Imagine the full might of the Fedcom directed at a single front instead of trying to save the Dracs while keeping the Lyran half of their realm from falling and helping Rasalhague.
>>98170697So true, so true.
>>98170796This is the future the clans don't want you to have
>>98170711>They already absorbed massive amounts of Drac space as well as most of the Rasalhague Dominion by the time anyone started working together.So they'd actually reach Terra if they were focused on the Dracs...>Additionally without being tied up in their own war the Fedcoms would have been able to launch a much more dedicated counterattack.Questionable, while the Fedcom could come into this stronger, it was also teetering on breaking apart, and Drac Space would be the best wedge to separate the two.
>>98170578I quite liked the big battle to determine the fate of the Inner Sphere ultimately boiling down to what is technically just Star League infighting.
>>98170806Is this an image from the Girls und Mech universe?
Are the pdf troves down? Or I'm just an idiot?
>>98170813>So they'd actually reach Terra if they were focused on the Dracs...If they get too close to Terra they're now facing literally everyone at once>Questionable, while the Fedcom could come into this stronger, it was also teetering on breaking apartWhich is why it lasted for over a decade after the Clan invasion. Fedcom in the early 3050s was fine>Drac Space would be the best wedge to separate the two.More like they can attack you from both sides to cut off the corridor from any support.If you attack Lyran space not only will the Fedcom have difficulty supporting a separated portion of its realm but the Dracs and Cappies would absolutely take the opportunity to attack Davion space when they have no allies.
>>98170902>If you attack Lyran space not onlyOk, you are arguing for a Lyran wedge run.Focusing on Steiner Space certainly has it's merits, I just question how viable it is when the Social Generals answer to the problem is throw more tonnage at it.
>>98170881They're up for me. The Cranston Snord links are mildly obfuscated to avoid trawler bots and less than motivated corpo types. Remember that links need periods, can't have spaces, and those two facts are very directly related.
>>98169642>rapes u
>>9817020190 year average life expectancy vs 58.One is significantly, measurably worse than the other.
>>98169642there's nothing cooler than mechs with melee weapons. like turn-a with a fucking morningstar.
>>98170648Reminder the most credible enemy to the new SLDF is Canopus. They already mauled the new black watch.
>>98172463Canopus has a Marian problem, though
>>98170648Every time I see this map, it consistently annoys me just how intact the Federated Suns are compared to literally anyone else on the map. They're borders have only some miniscule adjustments to what they were all the way back at the end of the Second Succession War while literally everyone else has undergone way bigger changes.It's more frustrating because they very recently had some interesting borders with the bigger Filtvelt and both the Capellans and Combine having taken bites out of them. But no, can't have that apparently.
>>98172608>anon wants hre borders in battletech
>>98172608The Fedsun map has kind of always been a lie due to the outback, and Filtvelt proved it. They color the map yellow, but have no meaningful investment or even control over the area. It's just periphery that they don't admit is periphery.
>>98172608This was the year before.
>>98172626That's just the FWL
>>98172689Better map
>>98172723always going to love this map with the daddy DRAGON sticking his big tool into the fedrats and hitting them in the cervix at new avalon
>>98172626Speaking of which, what's the 'Italian cities states fighting with mercs' equivalent in BT?
what the fuck is this
>>98172790Certain parts of the Periphery.
>>98172794>45 tons>JuggernautConfusing
>>98172830It can take more straight hits than most assault mechs.It's also a 0/[minimum movement 1]/1, but you know, swings and roundabouts.
>>98172830The role type terms in Battletech don't mean what you think they do. Juggernaut basically means something that prioritises armor and close range firepower over everything else. Its artificial as fuck but something like some Whitworth variants are considered juggernauts.
>>98172794Well that's drugs.An urbie can brutally out run it.I want one for a hilarious double blind city fight.
>MW5 does the thing where an enemy spawns under the map again>get as close as I can to finishing it anyway>restart mission>order66 those motherfuckers>leave without a single scratch or shot spentFuck you I hate this fucking glitch so much
>>98173197Play a shit game, get stupid shit scenarios. Be fucked, /v/tard.
>>98173273>get fucked>command council fixes it allWish I could say the same about all you're sibkos I'm about to murder, clanner.
>>98173353>all you are sibkos
