RIP John Blanche edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98149417>Thread QuestionWho was the greatest necromancer besides Nagash?
>TQDrachenfells, if he counts, if not, Arkan or Kemmler probably
>last thread up for 5 days>barely scrape past 400 replies>last quarter of that was just retards arguing about fimirThose chaos warriors can't drop soon enough man
>>98171113That or WFRP stuff coming out generally is what shakes the general out of its malaise of posters>arguing about fimirfimir are great
Repostan since it was end of threadI want a night goblin battalion box.How do you think GW should do it?Imo safe to go 60 Night gobbos + 5 or 10 squig hoppers + doom diver
>>98171250>I want a night goblin battalion box.Bro?
>>98171113The new 40k box is about to be released, so all the zoomer TOWrists are stinking up that thread instead. >Fimir rape shitflinging There's a couple of anons who love to swallow Perryfag's bait wholesale, this is just another instance of it.
>>98171113seems like earliest TOW announcement will be the 21st after 40k pre-orders are released.
I haven't visited this thread in months, it's depressing to see that literally as soon as I enter you retards are STILL going on about Perryfag. Christ.
>>98171346could be the 15th since they doing a HH reveal tomorrow
>>98171250I know it's too small a force to be battalion size, but I wish they rereleased the Skull Pass goblins as a box, it would be so kino.
Had a fun game this weekend. Played my beastmen in a 1250p game against Warriors of Chaos, Heralds of Darkness AoF dedicated to Khorne.It was brutal, mostly on my side as the dice screwed me over more than once in all aspects of the game; whiffing dice to hit/wound on my minotaurs and razrogor, getting my spells wafted away from two double 6 Fated Die two turns in a row, getting a miscast, failing "easy" (9+) leadership and fleeing on my Gors, and so on, until all my dudes have dead of fled at the start of our 6th (and last) turn.The scenario itself was The Tower which we built up a neglected and forgotten cemetery for with both forces wanting to claim the riches of the tomb in the center.Even though I was crushed and cursing the dice (and a giant chaos spawn) it was an interesting game.Please tell about the games you guys have had or are planning to have.
>>98171478Good stuff. I have a bad habit of working on lots of armies and not playing but I'm telling myself that I'll try to actually play once I get my Bretonnia force fully painted. Still need to do six knights, three pegasi, one damsel and a duke.
>>98171273Those are GSG, not night goblins.This may seem arbitrary but GW tracks sales separately.
>>98171273you'll get some purists who only want the old whfb version of the goblins and trolls and squigs. i dont deny that some of those old sculpts have some charm, but in my opinion the new ones are mostly better or just as good and they arent any more expensive either and you get to work with modern plastics instead of metals or resins in the case of the squigs and trolls which is a plus in my book. also if you want some options, the new sigmar darkhold troll and the kruleboyz troll are both about the same size as a regular fantasy giant, so there are some proxy options there if you want a more troll theme collection
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/s7gr9dmd/sunday-preview-dawn-of-the-new-edition/>Here on Warhammer Community, we’ve got a huge bounty of updated rules downloads for your Warhammer 40,000 factions going out across the week>and – outside of the 41st Millennium – a huge Monday reveal for Warhammer...>...: The Horus Heresy fans. >What could it be?
>>98171602The biggest issue is really that the box is shit for TOW. $145 for 34 figures on a game the scale of TOW for a horde army like orcs and goblins, much less pure goblins, is very bad. For $40 more you get a battalion of double that figure count so I see where anon asking for a proper battalion comes from.
>>98171607where are the monday reveals that were promise to us?
>>98171607It's so over
>>98171598Got it, I’ll buy three of those boxes then.
>>98171352You know what's sad, it's that 95% of the times he's screaming Perry it's not even me. I barely come here anymore but every time I do, there he is, accusing every single poster of being me. It's literally one mentally ill anon shitting up the thread because he's still upset I posted my perry miniatures Empire proxy army several years ago. He doesn't realize 4chan is full of ragebait and shit posters, he thinks they are literally all me. He has even claimed that I am the sole person shitposting in /aosg/ /40kg/ /hhg/ and even /btg/. I don't even go in those threads
>>98171607Kislev vs Warriors of Chaos coming in the next few months.
>>98171694I couldn’t be more bored if you tried.
>>98171607Chaos got squatted from both AoS and TOW. . . .
>>98171602>in my opinion the new ones are mostly better or just as good Bad taste>and they aren't any more expensive either Worse math
>>98171694Anon please, the new starter is clearly gonna be Fimir vs Empire.
>>98171725lol, okay. i give up on this thread, enjoy your circlejerk with the same 3 anons and that perry faggot
>>98171722You can still get the Chaos Lord from the AoS part of the webstore
>>98171750Everyone is your boogeyman.
>>98171750Please don't go anon, we'll all miss you very much
>>98171750Good. GW fanboys are what's killing Warhammer.
You VILL only field goblin armies made up of ze original metal Kev Adams sculptsYou VILL pay eBay pricesYou VILL shun recasters and proxies
>>98171844King shit
>>98171844Beats AoShit.
>>98171352I wish that people would stop trying to give names to shitposting. If you just say "stop being a weird combative douchebag" or "stop trolling", that can't be refuted. If you say "fuck off poopdickschizo", then you're opening yourself up to "erm actually I'm poopdickschizo and that wasn't me, heh... obsessed" and other refutations.
>>98171602I really like about 90% of the GSG range, it's a good night goblin refresh that doesn't go *too* far into le epic random poopfart territory AoS sometimes does. My problem is that a lot of the range is visually quite distinct from the older night goblins. Hell they're often closer to the Skull Pass monopose guys but bigger and more greebles. And GW generally does try to make their big boxes vaguely coherent, it's been a hot minute since I remember them doing one of those "bunch of random kits nobody wants". So mixing older night gobs and GSG would have to be a good balancing acts of finding what fits together well but is also at minimum a legal army.
Let's talk about rumors.>Next Setting is Cathay vs. Chaos>"Soft" revised "1.5" Rulebook>There will be more MtO waves, also with older plastic kits for Chaos, Orcs and Imperium>Full 2.0 / 2nd Edition then in late 2027
>>98171877Revenue suggests otherwise, TWW-kun. Try buying some minis sometime, maybe that'll change :^)
>>98171844>You VILL only field goblin armies made up of ze Kev Adams sculptsYes>You VILL pay eBay pricesYes>You VILL shun recasters and proxiesNo
>>98172054Kill yourself for posting that nigger.
Can we get actual hobby, game and lore talk in here? So far only one has posted a game, and its a fucking beastman player of all people.
>>98171844>ze original>not the newer ones he's madeYou're still in the cave looking at shadows
>>98172100One day I'll have a bulbus peppernose of my own.
>>98172054Javgoro is a fraud and knows nothing. This will be another knock against Rob and Jav.
>>98172054Lmfao The cathayan century
>>98172054with the arcane journal that came out with chaos v cathay this makes sense.TK v WE was either someone's pipe dream or a terrible business decision they decided against
>>98172179The WE vs TK encounter is set up in an arcane journal. And the leakers actually have real credibility. Unlike that discord fag or Rob the attention seeking wargamer
>>98172195unless TK v WE is all new kits it makes not a lot of sense
>>98172202They weren’t clear but they called it a starter set and we have rumors about tk skeletons being refreshed too so it’s possible. The point is, the we vs tk leak has credibility. The Cathay vs WoC box has no real credibility.
>>98171778he literally spends all day samefagging and shitting up threads on this site, you can see just trademark posting style and how he switches it up to pretend he's different people
>>98172210>The Cathay vs WoC box has no real credibility.maybe not, but it makes the most sense.i have a TK army and want it to be so, but im not deluding myself.
>>98172223>it makes the most sense Almost like something that would be put forth by someone who’s just making shit up for attention eh?
>>98172202Desert faction versus forest factions makes no sense in the first place.
>>98172251It’s set up in the War of Settras Fury AJ
>>98172251that's why they're doing it, gotta have a precedent, also it's already going on in the timeline
>>98172256It’s a rather dumb and boring set up still. Though that sums up tomb kings all around.
>>98172272You didn’t even know about the setup 2 minutes ago
>>98172222I've been called Perryfag for liking Victrix kits before anon.
>>98172296It was likely the Perryfag who did it
Are we talking about the Perryfag or the Antiperryfag?
>>98171478Very cool looking stuff anon. Also yeah Magic phase will magic phase, it's like being in an abusive relationship.>Please tell about the games you guys have had or are planning to have.Currently none. My regular group isn't at all interested in rank n flank or fantasy, though another one in the next city over I have some friends and acquaintances in is, but it'll take time to organise something together. For a start I need to lock in and have and get serious about painting my planned 750 pt Bret and 750 pt Beastmen forces so I have some nice minis to demo with.
>>98171478I have a gaming group that gets together, there's usually 4 of us, and we try to play 2v2's if we play a game like old world. But the last I was able to attend and we played fantasy was 2 months ago. and since then we've been playing lots of other games, can't complain since they're fun and enjoyable as well, for example yesterday we re-enacted d-day for the anniversary. But of course the one weekend I can't meet with my group, was the one other weekend they played fantasy, so i'm really eager to get my knights back on the table. Anyways here's a picture of the last game that we had, It was my Ally's knights Panther and my Errantry crusade against an Orc horde (my opponent usually plays goblins, but brought only orcs), because we were doing the old world version of the Charge of the Rohirrim .
>>98172304Every poster here aside from >(you) is one of those two. That includes me.
>>98172251>Forest denizens resist the growing desertification of their lands>climate change over the millenia means that once good dry tombs have become wet and overgrown with trees. The roots are beginning to eat away and crush the entombed soldiers and nobles below, of course the tomb prince will not see his people destroyed.Yeah the casus belli isn't great
>>98171694Here's an interesting question: since the marauders have been remodelled to be a fully fledged Norscan army to go with the Westerland AJ campaign, do you think they'll go and do the new WoCs also in a Norscan style and continue the Cathay expeditionary force plot line, or will they give us something new and we'll get some Tong/Hung inspired WoC for a new campaign setting that takes place in Cathay itself? I'm kind of split, on one hand having an army that looks like 2 different factions smushed together might look weird and discordant, but on the other hand it could be an opportunity to better represent that WoC are in-lore supposed to be made up of hundreds of different tribes spanning the Chaos Wastes. Also if they do it on the Great Bastion, that could be a good way to introduce Asvar Kull himself, while he was still raiding Cathay, before he would make his name known in the Empire.
>>98172339Sounds woke
>>98172272I mean not really, in a TK land invasion of Bretonnia scenario, they have to go through Athel Loren to get there. It's simple warhammer geography
>>98172340They will reninvent chaos in the old world, yes. Also I’m expecting chosen to be recontexualized entirely.
>>98172353Yeah but I don’t care for the geography.
>>98171250I'd replace the doom diver with a squig herd
>>98172313>that giant getting impaled by a lance of knightsPvre sovl... Also lol Errants+Panthers is such a gonzo linkup, possibly the 2 most dissimilar types of knights you can find in the old world.
>>98172340No I think they will look roughly like they do in the silhouettes on the breaching of the bastion AJ.
>>98172222And what exactly is his "trademark posting style," dear schizo? Regular 4channer shitposting?
>>98172222>he switches up his posting style to pretend he's different peopleYou really have gone off the deep end mate. Listen to yourself
>>98172222Please heed >>98171963
>>98172340I think (hope) they will be updated versions of the SoC Warriors, since true Chaos Warriors seem to be pretty similar looking over all.Crom is a Kurgan, and he looks the same as Norscan Chaos Warriors
>>98171963I'm actually poopdickschizo and this post made me chuckle
If the Chaos vs Cathay box is real, I might give in and start Cathay.My friend has a WoC army and we could split the box.
>>98172100Are Knightmare goblins sculpted by Kev Adams??
>>98171844>You VILL only field Bretonnia armies made up of ze original 5e STILLMANIA metal Perry sculptsYes.>You VILL pay eBay pricesYes.>You VILL shun recasters and proxiesYes.I give my body, heart and soul, to the Lady whom I seek. No plea for help shall find me wanting. No obstacle will stand before me. No evil will taint the lands bequeathed unto me. When the clarion call is sounded, I will ride out and fight in the name of Liege and Lady. That which is sacrament, I shall preserve. That which is sublime, I will protect. That which threatens, I will destroy, for my holy wrath will know no bounds. Honour is all. Chivalry is all. Rejoice, for we, the Knights of Bretonnia, will be your shield.
>>98172441>he doesn't know different posters have specific habits >he cannot tell apart different patterns of syntax, style and lexical variation>he does not look at filenames and time of posting >he thinks being anon is true anonymityyou might as well be brain-dead, honestly >>98172553>surely if I call him crazy everyone will ignore the fact that he's cracked the codesilence, manlet.
>>98172222You literally have mental breakdowns in this thread on a daily basis accusing several different posters of being your boogeyman who hasn't even posted ITT in about a month. He's on vacation plapping his pig still. Meds NOW
>>98172339Could riff of enkidu and gilgamesh vs hunbaba
>>98172391Redpill me on Knights Panther.
>>98172885>different patterns of syntax, style and lexical variationDo you have a single example or are you just talking out of your ass?
>>98172885bro has a doctoral thesis on recognizing and identification of a 4chan troll
>>98172097I did a game today as well. 2v2 game, coomer beastwomen with high elves vs woodelves with Bretonnia.
Any chance that some of the resin stuff is going away soon? I fucking hate this FOMO shit but I have to admit that it works, because I'm contemplating buying a bunch of shit I don't need for at least a year just in case they pull it from the store.
>>98172946not for WoC just yet and im not sure Wood Elves or Tomb Kings really have any resin models to replace
>>98172911He got many posting styles, but his unmasked one has these main elements>never employs line breaks, even when grammatically appropriate>uses punctuation correctly unlike most people in this thread>ample use of rhetorical questions>employs american english and is usually overly formal >posts his own photos from a google pixel phone and steals terrain pics from facebook groups>usually active during the afternoonhe also switches it up and posts using different styles, one of them is full of spelling mistakes, the other uses bong english at the wrong times of day>>98172890>Perry says hes going on a vacation >you believe himRetard
>>98172940dawg why did you post your opponents face kek
>>98172984Sounds like a relatively high IQ neurotic/dark triad type which explains a lot of his posting
>>98172984>overly formal Explain that one. Ive seen him use the other but I dont get what that one means
>>98173162he writes as though he was going to be graded, his words lack a casual attitude, very simple and clear sentence structure. in some of the most obvious bait posts he uses almost no contracted verbs
>>98173432Lol, lmao even.
This general includes the following>meltdowns about AoS from that one retard>the sovl faggot who owns nothing >beastmen coomer>perryfagging (both ways)>tranny Brett Guess I see you losers in another couple of years. I'm guessing its going to be literally the same fucking arguments again.
>>98173588>>meltdowns about AoS from that one retard>>the sovl faggot who owns nothingThose are literally Perryfag.
>>98173588You already said that, why are you still here?
>>98173588See you next week, faggot
>>98171607>>...: The Horus Heresy fans.oh boy another space marine model so we can space marine our marines
Got to watch a game this weekend Dwarfs vs Vampire Counts. Shooting heavy Dwarfs vs a shitton of skele's. Was fun, they were having a good time it seemed, tons of dice rolling to just blast chaff units, some wildly inaccurate artillery. They were joking about making it a drinking game that everytime a skele fell, somebody playing or watching had to take a shot. Probably would've died desu. I wish I had more consistent time to play.
>>98173604Those are both based positions
>Came for TOW strange rumors, see mostly shitposting here.A normal day at 4chan...
Rob the woke faggy warhammer says a Chaos dragon is coming
>>98173975If you have time to watch from the cuck chair you have time to play brother
>>98172272>something new and interesting that has never happened before>boringyou are a retard.
>>98174527>something new and interesting that has never happened beforeI wouldn't be interested in seeing a brick wall being charged into a tree just for the sake of it being something new that i've never even seen before. Though that is more interesting than anything the dynamics wood elves could ever have with tomb kings. Theres no real cultural exchange to be had with the two, its just completely vain.
>>98174540still not boring, retard.anything involving empire, now that would be boring.
>>98172908They're basically a riff on the later history of the templars right? All they care about is building strategic fortress-monasteries alongside lucrative trade routes to "protect" (extort) merchants and charge tolls. They'll fight if called, but will always fight twice as hard of there's a promise of rich treasure hang'd on the wreaths of victory.
>>98174334that been a rumour for a while, along with the chaos mammoth rumour
>>98172815I know you're likely shitposting but Wargame Foundry has a large range of 80s citadel figures still in production. These are original designs from the citadel range that GW didn't retain the rights to. So it's the real stuff.https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-modelsSome are fantasy designs like pic related, others are historicals that at the time were repurposed as Bretonnia and Empire and are back to being sold as historicals again. Anyhow if you seriously want to do an army in the style of the very early army books you can do it without eBay. It's not even expensive.
>>98173604Hmm... based
>>98173604Why would perryfag give a shit about which brand of modern gw minis you play with
This general really should be called /pfg/ Perryfag General. You faggots simply cannot let it go, despite 100s of times being told to ignore him.
Thoughts on Night Goblins?
>>98174878They're pretty cool
>>98174890Not that one.
>>98171598>Those are GSG, not night goblinsSquig hoppers are a GSG product so by this logic the battalion box you've proposed couldn't happen. (WHFB doom diver is metal so I doubt that'd make it into a battalion box either. Plus it's a goblin doom diver, not night goblin)
>>98174900Not a blanche fan?
>>98171844Will do if you learn to spell words correctly.
>>98171598Okay so why should I care though?
>>98174878I think they're very characterful and iconic orcs & goblins unit but nobody using anything but them in ToW is getting tiresome. Probably one of the most cost effective core infantry in the game, dirt cheap and can do crazy output due to fanatics.
>>98171598I' 100% sure, those night goblins are 8th edition night goblins from WFB. Squig hoppers are AoS stuff, but they are great and GW didn't even bother to release squigs for TOW. I dislike throggoths tho' and wouldn't use them (theey are fuckhueg), but they can pass as stone trolls easily.
>>98174878I like their design, but Night Goblin fanatic delivery core spam is tiresome
>>98174953>>98174957Looking at strong lists every one has Night gobbos, Black Orc Warboss on wyvern and doom divers
Will we see a big squatting in the chaos range or just the following "Lord mounted and on foot, Exalted hero, Chaos Warriors and Chaos Knights"? (Quoted from TGA)The scale of the release would make sense, but I wonder whether they squat stuff like the ogres and chosen? I can see a new dragon being released, so Galrauch might go.
>>98175076I can't see them squatting an iconic unit like chosen without a replacement.Chaos ogres, I dunno. I feel like tow is kind of caught between being a way for gw to cash in on some nostalgiabucks with these ancient sculpts, but also having to bring out new releases because those nostalgiabucks run dry quick.That being said I wouldn't expect them to start meaningfully squatting old shit until they've brought most of the range up to par. Even age of sigmar kept certain ancient kits around until very recently, like for example some of the skaven stuff until it was refreshed in 2024.
VC vs Lizards vs Skavens 3k each
>>98175122
>>98174769I prefer middlehammer Bretonnia, but I do have some true oldhammer knights on horseback which look just as good as the 5e metals. The "retainer" oldhammer doods are also fucking amazing as champions/characters for peasants.
>>98175076I would personally be very upset if they removed daemon princes from the rules (not that they're selling a bespoke TOW daemon prince anyway, nor are daemon princes good or fun), but I don't think they'll squat any models besides the ones being replaced.Doing so would bleed an already anemic army white. Seriously, look at the units chaos has access to. Every list is the same because everything that isn't on those lists sucks.It would be very funny if they made a big hullabaloo about replacing the (iconic, if not to my personal taste) 2004 chaos warriors only to keep them in the horrendous state they're in now.
>>98171670>crying face behind smirking chad emoji mask.jpg
>>98172614Yes, that's literally their entire shtick - We Got THE Goblin Guy.
>>98174878Coolest faction, but they kinda steal regular goblins thunder.
How does the Dwarfen Kingdoms feel about Bretonnia especially in comparison to Empire of Man?I know the Empire considers the word of the dwarves better than the word of Bretonnia about what they would believe is real and not when dealing with stuff like the Skaven .
>>98175511>How does the Dwarfen Kingdoms feel about Bretonnia especially in comparison to Empire of Man?the dwarfs have good relations with the men of the empire because of sigmarbretonnians have nothing to do with sigmar, so the dwarfs have no real reason to be particularly good natured with them
>>98175511Bretonnians are less tolerant of dorfs in their lands and don't have a long-standing relationship with them, but they still have positive interactions. I'm sure dorf smiths and craftsmen could easily find work among Bretonnians, which is why gromril armor exists as a magic item purchase for Bret lords. Bretonnians have more frequent and closer dealings with Wood Elves though, which would obviously put off dorfs. Curious how the Lady's sacred sites seem to have a lot of overlap with those of the Wood Elves...
Screaming Bell I painted as a bday present for my brother... he will be starting a skaven army whether he likes it or not...
>>98172054On the one hand, it'd be retarded for them to cram in more cathay kits or repackage the ones they just fucking sold. On the other hand, GW is indeed retarded enough to do this, so...
>>98175511Generally pretty neutral, though some dwarfs think all non-Sigmarite Humans are weird because they view him as humanity's only Ancestor God so why the fuck are they not all worshipping him above all others.
Anons, what is this thing?Was this ever an actual TT unit for Bretonnia or is it just a kitbash thing?
>>98175611Looks really grimy and rusty. Also nice basing, was the sand and grit already coloured or did you paint it?
>>98175657Nah, basing was 'an ode to grimdark' by some company called Krautcover. They also have lil bones & skulls mixed in as well, but most of those are in the slimy warpstone river under the bridge (which wound up being uard to see, but whatever...)
Besides being a noble and the emperor what kind of personality and what actual age is called Emperor Karl Franz? I know he's loyal to his jobs and supposedly not corrupt But what are his personality things the most I've heard is he likes the Imperial Zoo he has money for and might be married to a noble relative of his and has a child or two.
>>98175642You have summoned me. This is a kitbash parodying the Empire War Altar. Looks like the dorf pony cart + 6e Questing Knight's portable shrine + another 6e Questing Knight's shield + one of the 6e Knight of the Realm shoulder shields, from what I can recognize. Not sure what kit the bell is from. The giant candles and the crude lectern look to be hand-sculpted. Not a bad idea, but a rather poor execution. Empire Warrior Priest to Bretonnian monk conversions are pretty common, that probably would have served better here.
>>98175938Scratch that, I think he actually did kitbash the Warrior Priest from the War Altar. That explains the random shield slapped on his chest, easy way to cover up the leavings from trimming off his breastplate. Still not a fan of how it ended up. There's a bald Warrior Priest holding a hammer who's 10 minutes of de-trimming and hammer-snipping away from being a perfect generic monk which gave me better results much easier.
>>98175642That model was a kitbash, but I think you could count it as a Brettonian War Alter, which had rules in 5th edition, guess it turned into a Grail Relique
>>98175977These are the ones. They might be more difficult to find, but they're worth the search. I used the one on the left.
Every army gets something similar to a herdstone: an army purchased terrain feature with a benefit. What do you add and what does it do? Assume they always do the pts value thing.Waystone for wood elves - all forests within 18" are considered dangerous terrain for the enemy army of unit controlling it. Magic missiles can't target the unit controlling it. Friendly Units within 12" gain feigned flight.
>>98176165Bretonnia could have Guardian of the Sacred Sites involve an actual sacred site and not "that model train tree in the corner"
>>98175938>>98175977>>98175996Did the Reliquary of Quenelles or Sir Dagobert (as a grail reliquae) ever have TT models?https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Reliquary_of_Quenelleshttps://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Sir_Dagobert
>>98176165purchasable terrain breaks the immersion because you end up with purchased terrain pieces that don't fit the scenario you're playing or both sides inexplicably having their respective tower/statue a stone throw from one another at the start of the game.terrain should be purchasable only if it's a type that can be very well imagined as being hauled to or built on the spot, like any other unit or artillery piece; otherwise it has to be purchasable exclusively if the scenario permits it and specifically only the defender should be given an allowance for scenery, while the attacker should have siege* equipment.*not all purchasable terrain should be walls and fortresses, so not all the options for an attacker should be rams and siege towers, they can be entry more abstract things like arrival routes, wheather conditions, reinforcements and malus onto the enemy army to represent a suprise attack or chocked supply lines.
>>98176252That's actually why I would love if Cygors got a turn 0 ability to do a hurl stone attack that places the herdstone where it lands and everything within 3" of where it lands gets a partial hit roll. It would place the herdstone in enemy territory so they control it, but still has strategic value.But at the same time, dwarves being able to place a bunker makes sense. Empire a cannonadde embankment that counts as a BSB hill.
Massive O&G pile of poop
>>98176218>Sir Dagobert (as a grail reliquae)Sir Dagobert is the official grail reliquae model. The Reliquary of Quenelles was a Perilous Quest thing only, it would be more of a baggage train than a model. It was successfully delivered to the grail chapel it was meant for, so it's probably still there in canon.
Remember to appreciate smaller sculptors.
>>98176165>DwarfsSlayer Shrine. Already had a focus in the one arcane journal.
Oof. It's so joever....
>>98176634>slayersI read an anon asking for an alternative way of playing dwarfs because he found them dull. I'm almost 100% sold on getting a dwarf army for TOW but I'm worried about buying them, painting them and hating how they play because I've experienced the same thing as the other anon, I've played against 5 different dudes and all 5 armies were basically the same. I remember someone suggesting carts+miners but does the slayer army play any different? I'm not saying dwarfs should be jumping around and suddenly becoming WE wardancers, but forming a line and waiting to be charged while you shoot your cannons is only enjoyable in total war because at least you feel like a WWI general imo
>>98176840Slayers as a small contingent are fun, Karak Kadrin would have you playing with a 20% win rate
>>98176819Why is he making this video now and not a year ago, or whenever the PDFs launched
>>98176869Armageddon box coverart is 100% Aryan blond chads, so he has no 40gay content to cry about for the month.
>>98176819>Dlayeon's & DradiookThe absolute state of sloppers. Can you even take seriously someone who can't be arsed to make a proper thumbnail?
>>98176904Was the Summer Games fest not enough content for him?The God of War Vs Steller Blade discussion alone should have given content for a week alone
>>98176819barch if you here, tone down the clickbait, please, there is only so much i can take
Okay, wtf am I doing wrong?
>>98177229>he doesn't know
>>98177229Retard alert
>>98177229anon... i'm sorry, your retardation, its terminal
>>98177260>>98177373>>98177376If you don't know either then you can just say so.
>>98177411Kek brother just say you're a newfag from reddit. When you finally figure it out you will realize how obvious is was
>>98177229Zoomers are you okay?
>>98177411M3g4 => Mega
>>98177229>>98177411>trying to use playground tricks to bait someone into helping him put the round peg in the round holeFucking lawl. Idiocracy was right.
>>98177229Zoomerfag or Summerfag?Could be either
>>98177229This is Perryfag bait
>>98174878they're funny
Give me the strength to resist buying a local guy's 5000 points of O&G. He's not willing to sell it in chunks so while the total price is not unreasonable, it's still a lot of money. This is not a financially responsible thing for me to do.. but..
>>98177843Just find some stuff to trade to eat at the cost of it. I didn't want to pay full price for someone's 4k worth of Dark Elves so I traded some stuff to get them down to half the price.
>>98177843Got any pics? Is it 8e shit or oldhammer?
>>98177843If they're Kev Adams sculpts I ORDER you to buy the lot
>>98177411This-> >>98177607It even says "Mega" above the link, retard-kun.
>>98177868Unfortunately, all I've got myself is O&G.>>98177904>>98177919Seems like a mix of all eras. A lot of old squigs at least, and a bunch of metals. Some real ancient orcs in the mix too. I'm a babby who got into the game during 7th so I can't identify at a glance what edition all the older stuff is.
>>98177785Assuming this was a normal chaos warrior, could the night gobbo actually kill it if it landed the stab?
I finished painting the dwarf starter set for a 1000 point TOW game. Got a couple of questions because I need a general and some extra stuffCan I build a king and a runesmith out of the "dwarf lords with shieldbearers" box? I know there's a king and a thane (or king on foot) on the box, but not sure whether it's one of those kits that allow different heroes to be built.Also grudge thrower or cannons/organ guns? It's the same price, but you get 2 siege weapons out of the cannon boxI'm guessing once I have 1000 points, I'll just make my warriors unit bigger and start buying stuff I like the look of like ironbreakers or slayers
>>98178105yes he could kill archaon too, the problem is landing the stab because he's got the ed sheeran cheatcode
>>98178116>Can I build a king and a runesmith out of the "dwarf lords with shieldbearers" box?I don't think, at least not with a lot of kitbashing or modelling on your part, that box provides a Thane/King on Foot and a King with Shield bearers out of the box and nothing else
>>98178105>Assuming this was a normal chaos warriorThe joke is that warrior is literally Archaon
>>98178010>all I've got myself is O&GIf you have 2000 points or more I just wouldn't then, lest you buy a bunch of shit you already have and waste money on models you'll probably never use or paint
>>98175122>>98175124Kino table and armies.
>>98176869Had to wait until someone in his discord told him about it is my guess.Has he ever managed to produce an army pic after however many years of sloptubing?
200 posts deep in this thread and only two anons have posted their games or models. The absolute state of TOW
>>98179027Get the fuck back in your fucking hole >>98171879
>>981790275 actually.
>>98177843Buy it and resell the parts you don't want.
>>98179027So true... Post your latest models..NOW
Early WIP on knights and a couple of stakes.>>98179942Nice state troops.
>>98180098Thanks. Can't wait to see what kind of heraldry you freehand on those barding shields. Love the boar helmet. The boar is the second most kino heraldic animal, only behind the aurochs
>>98180111I've been using decals. There's only so much pain I can bear.
>>98179027What strategic purpose does the can serve on the battlefield?
>>98180155>*sluuuurp* nothin' personal
TOW news when....
>>98180150I'll be taking my compliment back, if you don't mind
>>98180180I don't need no comment from no perryfag
>>98180175Never. We have to talk about autistic lore issues to avoid infighting again.WHAT DO DWARVES EAT?I remember blindfish from a Gotrek novel, but what else? Surely you can't have a civilisation subsisting entirely on eels living in wells.
>>98175124good material to piss off 40kg and their L shaped ruins.
>>98175124>>98175122Riot at the furry convention
>>98175124Purple rats! All my life I've wanted purple rats!
The problem with Warhammer is that multibases are kino and it uses single bases.
>>98180696Your bases look like crunch bars.
>>98180360>WHAT DO DWARVES EAT? Curry called Kuri, sausages, bread, Hard Cheese Beer ect
>>98180360Dragon Age 1 actually tried to do some decent dwarf world building for that kind of stuff. Staples are mushrooms and some kind of rabbit like mole creature they can domesticate. That said Warhammer dwarves actually go outside so that significantly helps for their food I imagine.They can even chop down trees for wood. Oh wait they're too grimderp for that.
>>98180696I can understand the point of multibases when you do something that can't be achieved with individual bases, like irregular formations and mini dioramas, but that picture doesn't really do much that you don't get from single bases, unless you really really really don't want to see the edges of bases between models
>>98180360>WHAT DO DWARVES EAT?They know how to cook and eat troll meat, chances are that they might have lumps of perpetually regenerating flesh that they periodically cut and cook, even if that doesn't sound at all like the kind of food conventional fantasy dwarfs would have.I'd also assume they have huge quantities of food that can be conserved for a long time, like milk derivates, dry meat, whole grains and nuts, pemmican and butter, especially if it's all kept in cold dry and salted room. allegedly romans managed to keep solid ice in pits for an entire summer season, so dwarfs could do something similar for refrigerating or freezing food stores. so they might have like a month of two per year where they prepare and stockpile all these types of food and then do little else the rest of the year, so it may appear like they don't do much to outsiders.
>>98180696What do you do to remove casualties?
>>98180880You don't.
When the FUCK is 5th ed for the rpg coming out? I want to get into it but Im not buying a bunch of shit and learning it if C7 is streamlining it later this year.
>>98180960PDF should be out already, but the printed book won't be until next year at this rate
>>98180960Hasn't C7 just had everything fucked because half their main staff left? Not even talking about Andy Law I mean like past couple years.
>>98180970Sure you're not thinking about the Temple of Spite book?Or do you mean the book *should* have been out by now?>>98180986I do know some other guy left to start his own company. Which would make it st least 3 people, not insignificant for a company with less than 30 people
>>98181006i remeber reading somewere that the PDF for 5e was meant to be out bfore Temple of Spite(which is a 5e supplement)
>>98180880Individual casualty removal is kinda retarded in mass combat games.
>>98180880ideally wound tokens until you've reached a large enough threshold to remove one of the multibases
>>98181024But I like removing individual models. It's fun!
Thoughts on cutting the tab for metal minis? Seems like damaging history, but I can’t make nice cobblestone bases with them on.
>>98181111I do it more often than I don't. If it really bothers you, you could try making cobblestone bases and then cutting a slot in to them manually.
>>98181111There are easier ways to make cobblestones without cutting up metal minies. There are also better things to do with White metal
rumour engine for a new Chaos Character for TOW?
>>98181024>>98181038Sounds like you two might like a different game than old world then with that attitude.
>>98181151probably, yeah
>>98179942I've been horrendously busy with real life recently, so my latest regiment of 1997 chaos warriors isn't in a state worthy of being posted, but I have been thinking up designs for their banner. Will they serve Malice? Probably not, mostly because I still haven't gotten over my ardent and amorous affair with glossy black armour with gold trim, but I think this design is kind of cool and I'd like to use it anyway.
>>98181111Don't. It's a pity if you want to rebase or sell them.
>>98181124Looks like a spear or lance - maybe knights?
>>98181111I did it to Bertrand the Brigand and his bros so I could base them at the exact angle I wanted and put Bertrand on a tactical rock. I wouldn't do it to a rank and file unless it's not fitting the way I want at the slotta angles.
>>98175642Pony is from the the 7th ed plastic dwarf miners kit, while the bretonnian priest is a conversion of pic
>>98180150>decals on Bretonnian knightsSacré dame...
>>98181156>>98181024>>98181038Why not just play kings of war? It's exactly what you're looking for.
>>98180696multibases are terrible as visual cues in games though, there's a reason KoW batreps don't exist.
>>98180360Whatever lives in high places or underground.Probably goats from up high and fish, mushrooms and any cave dwelling mammals from down low
>>98180800Rangz o' powah was right, dwarves are black after all
>>98181124That's 70% new Chaos Knights.
>>98181124whats the time delta on the rumor engine and actual reveal?
>>98181633anywhere between a week to five years
>>98181633from two days to 2 years
>>98181633Alpharius's spear has been shown off for quite some time now and there's still no model reveal for the nog who currently wields it in 40k.
Boole... please let this be right... please let us get an entire Chaos refresh...
>>98181716>manticore, chimera and giant>no mammothwas there really a need to remake the chimera and giant?
>>98182029The current Giant model for TOW is Resin so that's probably why
>>98179942Same boat as >>98181164, haven't had much time for models this week, but I did find the time to start seriously working on my Bret armorial for the KOTR I need to assemble and paint.
>>98181716>please let us get an entire Chaos refreshYou greedy nigger you get that literally every year AoS needs a cash injection and puts out a new chaos warriors army witha slightly different flavor from the last
>>98182040as if aos isn't getting another kit of giants so the current plastic one can't be used by tow
>>98182319Listen I would much rather the love be spread to all factions gradually than one get the bulk of it but GW loves to do it like that so at least its Chaos and not Cathay becoming the MC again.
>>98181124Has to be a chaos knight lance
>>98182029there was another company than makes a good mammoth. cant remember who it was though, maybe conquest or kings of war
>>98182381Makes sense, WoC are the most popular faction (and always have been)
>>98182428It’s a shame that they have the most uninspired rules I’ve seen chaos be subjected to in any edition of Warhammer. Seriously how do you fuck up and make chaos this boring?
>>98182434Silver lining them getting a massive refresh means 1-2 more journals full of new rules for them. Hopefully that fleshes them out and makes them more interesting.
>>98182441>more journals No thank you.
>>98182457Journals are now the SDS format of choice now since HH, TOW, MESBG and LI have them. I wouldn't be surprised if future Necromunda books are in the 48-page journal format
>>98182472Yes I don’t care for redundant dlc paper weights.
>>98182457Too bad, because that’s what you’re getting
>>98182029The Chaos giant is the worst giant model GW ever made
>>98181377There's always Warmaster too, or a fantasy hack for pike and shotte.
>>98182472>Hmmm people just aren't buying our narrative books like they used to. Should we improve their quality by adding more rules & detailed lore similar to what they used to have?>Nah, let's just make them 10 pages long and sell them for $10It's wild watching the enshittification of this company in real time because they never think about the long term consequences. Can anyone see the next generation of hobbyists developing a nostalgic love & dedication to the lore of warhammer on account of these shitty little pamphlets? They'll inevitably be scattered to the wind along with warhammer altogether in favor of a more interesting setting that puts effort into its lore, going the same way as Star Wars.
>>98181716I would love to see a dedicated chaos giant kit that has an alt build for a siege giant!
>>98182789Well you're not wrong. It's been third parties and the community doing the heavy lifting for a long time, and it looks like that won't change. Modern GW are so lucky for all the work their predecessors did, that they don't have to do anything and people will literally beg them for something to spend money on.
>>98182789I think they've looked at numbers and realized zoomies just aren't into Warhammer, so they've opted to optimize everything to make it more convenient for Xilennial grogs
>>98182789The core concept of the arcane journals is not an issue. They're supplements, or at least they should be. Just because they've been given a specific designation and have less pages than other supplements doesn't mean they're worthless. Why, look at the Path to Glory supplement from 6th edition! Eleven pages! Eleven pages of pure power! Not every supplement needs to be the size of the 8th ed books to be good.The only thing preventing arcane journals from being as timeless and worthwhile as the supplements of eld is the writers choosing to make them shit on purpose. They're disposable trash because that's what the SDS wants them to be. Pamphlets can be great. Whatever these arcane journals are is not.
>>98182855I agree that the AJ format is not inherently bad, GW just does not care (or pay) for quality writing anymore. For example the AJ format could be great at fleshing out subfactions within armies that don't have enough breadth to fill a full book but would be equally constrained by having to fit a WD article page count.
A friend has asked me to paint up his bretonnian army. Is there any official or unofficial book showcasing bretonnian schemes by provinces? Something akin to heraldry of the empire or skaven
>>98172054>>98172171Chaos getting dunked by the real protagonists yet again.
>>98183161no, you gotta make individual heraldries for the individual knights
>>98182738Real chads ignore TOWslop and just play Warmaster in 28mm
>>98183195>the real protagonistsStormcast Eternals?
>>98183202>Warmaster in 28mmMost modern warhammer players can't be bothered to assemble and paint the two dozen models required for tow, there is 0% chance you can find two players in the same geographic area willing to paint, or even assemble enough toys for warmaster
>>98183220Asur women.
>>98183251You're right and I hate it.
Here is a neat 6th ed scenario inspired by the 7th Samurai. Narratively speaking, it is easy to see what humans would be defending, a village of peasants, elves a holy site, Dwarfs a brewery, or even Chaos a ritual area. But what about Orcs? Why would a Warboss and his hardest lads face off against a full army and to defend what?
>>98183336The orcs are defending their captured human female sex slave corral
>>98183161>A friend has asked me to paint up his bretonnian army.That's a pretty big ask lol, I hope you really like painting>Is there any official or unofficial book showcasing bretonnian schemes by provinces?The Bretonnian 5th edition army book has a somewhat in-depth heraldic guide (it's not terribly inspired). The 6th edition army book has an armorial for dukes and important characters in the WHFB timeframe, while the Bretonnian Arcane Journal for TOW has an armorial for dukes and important characters in the TOW timeframe. However, as someone who somewhat enjoys heraldry (>>98182077), my opinion is that nothing beats learning about actual IRL heraldic traditions (it's not all Anglo-Normans you know) and creating your own OC armorial for your army. The 5th ed AB has some cute ideas you can lift (for example the star = vanquished a wizard) but ultimately it's still completely dominated by IRL heraldry for storytelling potential.>Something akin to heraldry of the empire or skavenNo, and I'd argue it defeats the point.
>>98183354>That's a pretty big ask lol, I hope you really like paintingThe older I get, the more fun I get from just painting other people's stuff instead of painting my own or playing. Like a reverse hobbying cuck>nothing beats learning about actual IRL heraldic traditions That was my next step if I wasn't able to find anything in the setting. Making up my own heraldry or basing them in history sounds fun, I remember learning about samurai heraldry for my small ashigaru/samurai warband and it was tons of fun
>>98183351I coom. But seriously, what would orcs defend?
>>98183399Grog and squig pies. Supplies basically.
>>98183399I'm serious
>>98183423I guess. Would it maybe make sense the rest of the Orcs and gobbos legged it but the Warboss decides to stay and his other bosses stick around under the motive they'll have the best fight ever?Just trying to frame it in my head.
>>98183399That is a perfectly valid scenario. Look at all the oldhammer scenarios, they just made up wacky shit like that all the time and it was a much better time when you could just make shit up on the fly instead of rigidly adhering to the Black Library junior fiction 'lore'
>>98183559Still baffles me that there are still no foot knights
>>98183559Good point. Ironically, it was the more easy flowing fluff whjch brought me back to greenskins. Chaos i loved for a long time but eventually i found the substance actually shallow over time and now find the simplicity of orc fluff to be surprisingly deep.
>>98183220BRETONNIAN BVLLS of the finest stock, bred for generations for the THICKEST BWC and bravest, purest hearts in the Old World. ONLY THE THICKEST, TIGHTEST, SOLIDEST WHITE MEN shall receive the Lady's blessing.
>>98183487Could also be the boss' prized snotty is in the camp.
>>98183336Orcs would defend a desecrated dorf hold out of spite, or if you want something you can use for multiple different races, then a captured stockpile of Bugman's XXXXXX. Or maybe just a stubborn last stand, not like Orcs need a good reason to fight.
>>98183628>BWCBitty wittle clitty?
I am a beastmen player.
>>98183336>to defend what?A flag stuck in the ground with a big FOR THE BIGGEST BADASS scrawled on it.
I think I'm approaching the point where I won't need any more chaos warriors.This vexes me.
>>98183652kys faggot
>>98183652BIG WHITE COCKS to plunge deep into fertile damsel wombs to ensure fertilization is achieved. The next generation of noble knights and beautiful damsels is assured. Bretonnia prospers.>>98183838Don't be mean to him, he thinks he's a lady. He's a little soft in the head.
Spanish YouTuber saying the new chaos v Cathay will have NO NEW KITShttps://youtu.be/ocsUituqEM8?si=2f4-2b8eQByTZaBA
He says in the video that he doesn't know for sure. Now get the fuck back in your fucking hole >>98171879
>>98183875You will never feel the touch of a woman.
>>98184508It sounds like he knows something but granted i read the auto translation
I have seen the futureNew 1.5 launch box isNew chaos champion monopose sculpt (2 weapon options)20 New chaos warriors10 New chaos knights1 New Chaos Chariot New Cathay 'strategist' style hero20 peasant levy10 jade warriors5 jade cavalry 2 cannons This will be followed by Chaos Reinforcements, a new sorcerer models and chaos spawn. Chaos spawn kit will be well fitted to mesh new Warriors to create kitbashed possessed and they will demonstrate this in a warcom article.
>>98184508Insane levels of copium
>>98184555Proposing to my English rose soon ackshually. Always remember that you will NEVER be a real woman!
Every fucking day it either rains or I'm not at home so I can't fucking prime my fucking miniatures so I can't fucking paint my fucking army
>>98184759Just prime them inside?
>>98184759this is why I use brush on primer. I hate spray primer, even if brush on primer ends up looking thicker.
