Why doesn’t anyone talk about DCC? Best magicMartial classes can do more than swing and hit/missClerics relationship to their deity actually matters Rules gtfo out of the wayDiscourages min maxing and main character syndrome
>>98174103Every thread devolves into nonsensical osr purity spiral bullshit, it doesn't seem like many of the people who play the game are on this webzone. it doesn't seem like most people here even play games, but that's a separate issue. Considering running some Lankhmar DCC or MCC this summer. I like the system, have ran some one and two shots but never managed a big campaign.
>>98174103Rules are fun in theory but just boring in practise unless you really enjoy just rolling on tables with the funky dice. OSR or ors lite games in general are just pointless because ad&d 1st edition rules are easily accessable thsese days and it is still the best game there is.
>>98174201This. I mean the entire first paragraph
>>98174209This. It can be weirdly tedious in practice. I don't mind playing it, but it's not my favorite system for what it does.
>>98174201To add to this, there is a weird misconception that it's a super rules heavy game because of the size of the book, and some people get really butthurt about the silly pledge at the front of the book, because they are deeply joyless cunts who hate fun and joy.
>>98174201>osr purity spiral bullshitTOUT TOUT!
>>98174220The tables can be a bit much, and the funnels with new players are difficult. Throwing four or five character sheets at a new player and asking them what they want to do on their turn is a lot. Once they understand that most of their characters will die and that’s part of the fun, it usually speeds up.Personally I think D20 is superior to b/x but a bit soulless. The luck mechanic of DCC ads just enough to make it interesting.
>>98174103Mostly because its a meme game. Much like every point in your OP.
>>98174201Oh fuck off you histrionic bitch
>>98174103We use it as a filler game when someone important to the plot in the main campaign can't attend and it serves its purpose. That said, it's pretty random in many aspects and if I want a game with many tables for an actual campaign I still prefer Rolemaster classic.
>>98174201My favorite campaign I ran was in DCC. Throughout the dungeons, my player would rescue prisoners and they would become level 0 characters that the party could take with them on future adventures or to tend their guild hall. The group really thought it was neat.
>>98174103>Rules gtfo out of the wayWhat does this mean?
>>98175900My idea for an MCC game is that the funnel adventure would be their remote, peaceful village being attacked, and the survivors needing to find a new place for the survivor refugees to settle, and possibly get revenge. I'm interested in the idea of community building/management as well as the usually delve n'raid or normal post Apoc gameplay.
>>98175762Dude, any DCC thread that gets into high double digits is usually as least half composed of>This belongs in osrg>No it doesn't FOEover and over again. The last one was more an ACKS trolling/counter trolling/counter-counter trolling thread than it was a DCC thread. They either die a quiet death because no one really plays dcc around here, or they turn into stupid bullshit.
>>98176067NTA, but as someone who actually runs DCC, could you tell us what OP means by the "rules get the fuck out out of the way"?
>>98176092I assume they mean that it's a simple system that doesn't rely on complex rules interactions. Pretty much everything in the system is "roll a d20 and add one or two numbers, try to roll high." There also isn't a big focus on character building, something that was very much the norm in the era it came out.Honest question, are you esl? Have you not heard the phrase "[x] just gets out of the way/stays out of the way?"
I personally never even looked at it as it had race as class
>>98176132Eh, I can see why that turns some people off but I like it, it makes elves dwarves and halflings more that "short human, short human [Scottish], and Human with pointy ears."
>>98176161There’s an option in the Annual to do it Race and Class.
>>98176161It's a flavor some folks love and some hate. I am in the latter group. Any game with that set up is an automatic no for me.Glad you enjoyed it though
>>98176117>erm r u esl lolololroflcoptermaoA game characteristically has rules, to enforce the conditions of meeting (or failing) its challenges and of its ultimate victory/failure state.If an activity doesn't have rules, it isn't a game, simple as that. I'm tired of nogames retards pretending they play games just because someone at the head of the table gave them permission to pretend their character could do something they personally think is cool.Literal cuckolds thinking they're having sex when all they're doing is holding the camera.
>>98176652Oh, good, you still post here.
>>98176132grandpa it's time for your afternoon nap
>>98174103Don't you ever get bored of doing the same tedious vague fantasy dungeon crawl game over and over?
>>98176161But that has nothing to do with a rule system. You actually can roleplay your character however you want.
>>98174103the knowledge that at least half my group will go for playing a spellcaster and considering that spells are half the book is the sole reason keeping me back from trying this along with the wonky dice that i refuse to buy
>>98177220>race as class has nothing to do with a rule system The fuck?
>>98177207the rules dont really lend themselves to playing a tranny barista pursuing an art degree, thats a fair point actually
>>98177314i mean they really do in the other crawl titles. But the story will be horrid, brutal and gruesome nonetheless
>>98177220I know you can, that's my point. Race as class actually gives mechanical weight to the fantasy races, as opposed to them just being a skin, or a set of static ability bonuses.
>>98174103It's anti Gygaxian fake OSR. Just play ACKS
>>98177223All those pages are just spells. Just flip to the page of whatever spell they are casting, or make them tell you the result. Also you can easily use normal polyhedral dice to mimic the wacky DCC dice >>98176652
>>98177207Why would you expect people to get bored of things they like just because you don't like them? Do you get mad at bridge players for using the same 52 cards all the time?
>>98177207No
>>98174103They get filtered, like >>98174209I've run 14 sessions of DCC this year, I'm running another 3 this month, and doing DCC Day at my LGS. AMA I guess.>>98177207How many times has your party fought an evil version of Santa Claus?
>>98174103lol what is going on with the hips and legs here? This is some AI tier fuckup.
>>98174103>Best magicEvery spell taking a whole page of mostly identical spell descriptions for every die result automatically makes this one of the worst magic systems to use at the table.
>>98175919>Player wants to do something other than a basic attack? You figure it out, DM, we couldn't be bothered.
>>98174103her piss turns into a sword?
>>98177207Unironically no
>>98175675IT was literally made to sell modules.>Literally that thing that gets played>That thing for players of games>The game that players playIts a great game, and it sort of suffers for not being the new hotness for OSR but that's a plus in my book. The fact that it predates the OSR purity spiral should make it more OSR then most of the modern cash grabs in OSR.
>>98180785This is your brain on memes again. >It does the thing so its a good thing Really? That's your criteria? Then this is a good post I'm making because it highlights how fucking retarded you are. Even the guy who made it says its not OSR. It never was, never has intended to be. At least you got the part where it was made to sell modules right. Its made to sell modules and run at cons. Its entirely based on gimmicks and vibes. Fuck off with your >purity spiral complaint while simultaneously making an appeal to >its older so its more trve you idiot.
>>98181736Your pic makes me want to try DCC… The No games DM vs the Has games Judge
>>98181995Give'r. Should be tables at most ttrpg conventions.
>>98180785>OSR purity spiraleat shit you fucking moron
>>98182671Why do you get so angry at people talking about this well-documented behavior?>>98181736Nta, but you're an idiot and you're completely missing the point so you can engage in more purity spiral nonsense.
>>98182943>well-documented behaviorshow me this documentation
>>98183866>>98181736
>>98181736But there's also this in the actual rulebook.
>>98184424>providing resources from a community means you identify as that community they said their game isn't an example of I know you got btfo in the other thread but its not a good dodge.
>>98184453>I know you got btfo in the other threadNTA
>>98184384>posting the author's own explanation of their own game is a purity spiral >>98184472Sure. The part from the book you posted, if anything, shows an even further drift from OSR and replacing that with a sales pitch for DCC specific material.
>>98183866>>98184424>>98184453>>98184472This is what people are talking about. Who gives a fuck if it's osr! It doesn't fucking matter! >>98180785 isnt even saying it's osr, they are saying it's what they wish the osr was, instead of a bunch of shitheads arguing over whether 2e is TRVE CVLT while someone shills ACKS in the background.
>>98184485>Posting the authors own explaining of their own game in an attempt to PROVE DCC isn't osr, a thing no one in the thread was arguing about.That's the purity spiral bullshit, dude. You're doing it right now.
>>98184485>demands to see proof of purity spiral behavior>proceeds to engage in purity spiral behavior>brags about having previously engaged in purity spiral behavior in other threads
This adventure is great. An isolated village, ruled by insecure Jarl and his conniving sorcerer advisor. An ancient curse that requires a sacrifice every third day or else the villagers will become its prey. An ancient crypt that contains the tools needed to stop the curse. Then a town that potentially serves as a home base for the party as they go on further adventures. It’s such a good adventure to serve as the base of campaign
>>98184504>they are saying it's what they wish the osr wasAnd that's the problem but you're too ignorant to see why. The OSR was clearly defined by its 2 primary authorities, Gary Gygax, and Alexander Macris. Pretending the OSR can be different from what it's always been is akin to pretending a man can magically turn into a woman with hormones and surgery
>>98184530Good to know the author is part of the purity spiral.
>>98184612the author is saying he doesnt care about people like you and doesnt take you into consideration when he plays games. thats the opposite of what youre doing, although i assume you dont actually play games
>>98184560Better if you use ACKS instead
>>98184660Anon, he literally says he doesn't consider it to be OSR. I'm not sure how much more clear >I don't think DCC is an OSR game. can be. Whatever baggage you're attaching to it is your problem.
>>98174103Relying on odd-faced dice just to be quirky is a death sentence for the game. On top of it being so fucking dense and poorly organized.
>>98175919This is usually the calling card of some NSR slop that sells itself on vibes and photobashed art run through about a dozen filters, while not actually having any meaningfully deep or thoughtful rules, which the creator tries to handwave by insisting that they "get out of the way" meaning the GM just has to make everything up on the spot. You know... The thing everyone fucking hates about 5e? I don't know why anyone would apply it to DCC because there are quite a lot of rules and tables in that game.
>>98184563>The OSR was clearly defined by its 2 primary authorities, Gary Gygax, and Alexander Macris.0/10, trying to hard. Bait has to be believable.
>>98184691So the author doesn't consider it to be osr, and no one in the thread said it was osr, but you're in here shadowboxing because...?This is the purity spiral shit, anon. You've gone>HEY FUCKERS GUESS WHAT, DCC ISNT OSR!and everyone has gone>No one caresAnd yet you've proceeded to argue with no one for half a day now.It's time to just let the thread die, it's obvious that this is just a dedicated troll in the vein of the savage worlds idiot.
>>98185135>and no one in the thread said it was osr, >>98180785You're such a liar. Close the tab if you hate the thread so much. Stretch your legs, drink some water, pet a cat, maybe think about going outside for a few minutes. You are giving yourself brain problems and you need a break.
>98187459>bumps a thread from page 9 to throw shade at a 12-hour old post and necrobumpTake your own advice, Pete.
>>98188089>takes hillbilly to billy and tries to emulate it but doesn't get how names workOh wow it is the same guy. So which of the names in The Worst People are you?
>>98184504post this documentation pls
>>98187459Holy reading comprehension fail, you fucking mental midget.
No games fags all of you DCC rules
>>98174103DCC pretty much does its own thing which happens to be a mix of everythingWhereas most other simulacrum pick a lane and tend to stick to it.
>>98189695Cha'alt had its own dice?
