Oh boy a slop thread with a fake story that we can pretend is /tg/ related

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>>98176116

>>98176116
It's a joke thread, I guess jokes are fake stories? do you get mad at movies for being fake too?

OP here. I have this as an actual problem in my game. I could use advice - but wanted to make it a bit fun.

>>98176316
You can post irrelevant shitposts on /b/ as much as you want. That's what the board is for. It's not what this board is for.

>>98177164
Damn, too bad you didn't communicate that instead of trying way too hard and failing to fit in.

>>98177164
Which game?

>>98176077
Traditional games?

>>98176359
Where's the joke? OP being retarded isn't a joke.

>>98177164
>paladins
>arguing semantics with devils

>>98178336
one of the most common powers attributed to saints is the ability to chastise and command devils

>>98176359
it's more like the movie was advertised as a film about traditional games but it's kust a badly written ben stiller comedy about hell with 0 relation to traditional games

>>98176077
guess you have to possess her and actively control her to make sure she's loving him right, and be there the whole time. Gotta hold up your end of the bargain.

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Oh God, people here are huge fun hating bitches.
OP, can you give a more detailed description of their approach?
>Which arguments are they using exactly?
>What textbook definition of "Love" and "Wish" and what differences do they claim to see?
>How exactly did your execution of the wish play out?
>What was the exact wording of the wish?
>What counterpoints will they bring up?
Once you've detailed all this, you can go into an open discussion with them. Maybe even have a public audience. Act like you will simply argue on a factual level. Your goal isn't to prove them wrong in a traditional sense though, as any textbook is written by mortals and therefor cannot fully encompass the meaning of abstractions like "love" (which is only one of many sounds made by what considers itself sentient to attempt to describe an spect of creation) but to corrupt the Paladins and their "logical" attempts by leading them ad absurdum. Your goal is to have them question their fundamental understanding of reality leading them to nihilism by showcasing the futility of reason as a whole, to lead them and the audience astray.
If you want an example you can go by Goethe's Faust's depiction of Mephistopheles in the prologue where he argues with God: https://southerncrossreview.org/129/faust-fts-trans.html

>>98177164
Bring in an arbiter i.e, a lawful neutral entity that mediates. Have the arbiter review the contract, then claim it void and null because love is a subjective experience, and the Devil's definition of love is true from their perspective, while the player's definition of love is also true, from their perspective. Since the contract doesn't include which of the definitions of love was being used, the Devil has acted in good faith, and therefore has done nothing wrong, but the argument put forth by the PCs is also true, which means the contract cannot be maintained.

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>>98178270
If you are unable to contribute towards a solution, then how about shutting the fuck up? No one cares about your inane misery or nitpicky circle jerks. Buy a rope and spare the rest of your personal problems.

>>98176077
Apologize to the guy and say you'll go clear things up with the hot chick so she understands what she should be doing...then give the chick one of those magic wish rings and tell her that the paladins are trying to separate her from her one and only. And then sit back and watch her go full yandere on the paladins.

They did say honor your part of the deal with the guy. They didn't say anything about any deals with the girl.

>>98176077
Sounds like a challenge. I'd like to get the wish word by word.

You could say that the Hot Chick, she thinks that's love, coz that's what she has read and that's what she's willing to give, possessive, pathologic, unhealthy love-obsession and that you only unleashed and redirected her pulsing desires. Not your fault.

HOWEVER, you could point out that the most iconic love play (Romeo & Juliet) ended up batshit crazy killing & dying and suiciding and stuff coz all their love could not stand a 8-hour period of asking around what the fuck was going on.

>>98178430
follow your own advice

>>98178394
>Which arguments are they using exactly?
This definition: "to like another adult very much and be romantically and sexually attracted to them, or to have strong feelings of liking a friend or person in your family"
Woman, currently, is just posessed and batshit crazy

>What textbook definition of "Love" and "Wish" and what differences do they claim to see?
No dispute on wish. Love - see above.
>How exactly did your execution of the wish play out?
Woman got posessed. Meaning ticks, stalkimg, cooking gruesome shit, acting, well... demonically posessed
>What was the exact wording of the wish?
"I wish, she would love me more, then anyone in the world"
>What counterpoints will they bring up?
Womans current state does not fit the definition.

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>>98178270
It's referring to a movie, you stupid motherfuckers

Is this whole thread populated by bots?

>>98176077
>raughs in tanar'ri
That's what you get for being a lawful evil s/m fag. Honor the deal bitch boy.

>>98181094
this is /tg/, we always take the bait. It's practically a competition.
>>98181132
yep, pretty much.

>>98180665
I don't really see how their definition would exclude obsession, but if it is established to contradict her behaviour you can give in and let her lose all affection for anyone else (or actively want to exterminate everyone and everything else). That way even if she doesn't care about him more than the bare minimum, she still "loves him more than anyone in the world" by the letter of the deal.

>>98181094
/tv/ is two blocks down retard.

>>98176077
>>>/slop/

>>98180665
First off, I have to scold you, little devil, for not making the woman just hate every other person. That way her feelings for the man could stay unchanged (or actually get worse). Since she still would "love him more than anyone in the world" (because she hates everyone else even more). Perhaps you can still skew it that way?

If that doesn't work I see three ways to talk yourself out of this :
If she has not yet been seen showing romantic affection for anyone, you can argue that her way of loving someone is just the way she is acting now naturally. Who are these Paladin to tell anyone how to behave when you are smitten? Is it any less of a love if it's not the typical flirtatious behaviour?

Method 2: Maybe this IS the purest form of love. It was asked of her to love more than ANYONE in the world. Even the most loving person has a capacity for malice towards the loved one. His wish however, being so absolute in it's wording, removed this natural ability and we are therefor witness to a being unnaturally onesided and therefor previously unseen. He shouldn't have demanded such absolute feelings. This is a lesson that everything should be in measures and all needs it's counterbalance, lest it become destructive. Even love.

If, however, they do know you have simply "infected" her and can somehow prove it, you can still go the route described above and argue there being no real way of defining "love" because it's all futile attempts at abstraction. Poetry has made many an attempt at formulating these feelings and admits to never having succeeded. Anyone who ever loved would know this! (Potential backhanded insult towards the Paladins.)

>>98176077
You stole the story from a movie but gave it a mentally retarded alternate ending.
you probably stole it from reddit.