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Previous: >>98169664

Kami Edition

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Gay Bolas
https://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Do you prefer making new decks, or tinkering with old ones?
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Aren't you excited to build your funny epic meme Commander deck, anon?
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>>98177347
Yes actually
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>>98177263
>TQ
I only need my beloved Toski!
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>>98177263
>Do you prefer making new decks, or tinkering with old ones?
Tinkering, I enjoy the decks I have.
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Talk to me about this guy. Is he any good? I was thinking of making a "shit out big stuff" deck with the usual suspects like Blightsteel, Ancient Copper, the other big fuck you dragons/artifact creatures, Etali, etc etc.
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>>98177263
When I was new to magic I bought this guy to make my first five-colour deck. It was rubbish but fun, now I'm thinking that perhaps I should rebuild it with a Kamigawa Spirits theme.
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>>98177645
if you make him put in this nigga
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>>98177645
he gets boring fast.
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>>98177645
I wanna do this but I already own Dance of the Elements which is basically the same thing plus ramp
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>>98177737
That, and this little number are a joy with Tannuk.
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Absolutely insane card, likely going to warp multiple formats. Imagine the Thoracle lines you can do with this. Strongest card in the set, hands down.
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Let him cook
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>>98177853
>yeet your entire library except for 5 cards
>able to immediately set up a wincon
>only costs BBB
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>>98177853
cute bait i rate it 8/8
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98177853
Surely you jest.
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Robo bae
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>>98177853
>mills you
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>>98177888
What the fuck did they do to the bottom paragraph? What's up with the text placement?
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This is like the fourth Wasp. Christ, the whole set is like this. Every creature is legendary and there are half a dozen versions of each one.
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Very Timmy
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>>98177263
>I le advertised my furry commissions in the OP again OwO
Fake thread, shan't use.
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>>98177921
How old are these cards?
Nobody has given a fuck about the 10 rings for like 4 years and they're on multiple cards
Nobody's given a fuck about Kang for 3 years and he's on like 10 cards
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>>98177888
another card for my sabin deck
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>>98177263
>TQ: Do you prefer making new decks, or tinkering with old ones?
Hard to choose. Getting motivated to make a new deck with some theme/mechanic that sounds exciting is fun, but is always kind of stressful because you usually end up cutting 10-30 cards you don't want to, and the deck rarely is good the first iteration. Slowly testing the new deck, then figuring out what works and replacing cards is more rewarding as you see the deck actually start to do what you want and turns out to be good. I've got a few decks I've slowly done that to over a decade now.
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>>98177933
You never answered my question from last thread. How can I get my commission put on the WotC website? I need everyone to know that my wife is married to me and was NOT sullied by the Gitrog monster!
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>>98177992
Thalia is toad poop my bro
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>>98177942
Care to share your list, fellow sabin chad? This is mine, open to feedback. https://moxfield.com/decks/9yehp0q8FUKaO60P-HGJSQ
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>>98178012
She is not! I will commission WotC to let everyone know this!
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FIT CHECK! You ARE using an ARTY purse box to carry around your commanders aren't you anony? ...aren't you?
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>>98177921
>can't put the other shang chis in the shang chi deck
Lol
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>>98177347
Man I tried to build funny B2 meme decks. I even threw it a few cheap furby and miku cards my LGS had. I got fucking nothing. Not worth it. Magic autists don't give a shit about art. If they had it their way every card would be those 10 paragraph long text lands.
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>>98178194
>If they had it their way every card would be those 10 paragraph long text lands
Meanwhile the best lands ever printed have only single line of reminder text
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>>98178138
sorry to make you wait for a bad deck
been experimtwith some of the +1/+1 and ping on discard cards
been on and off of equipment, looking to use exalted-like triggers to pump sabin instead
https://moxfield.com/decks/DBU2dwTJukqDHGVlFaDDEg
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>>98177940
they were handed a list of Marvel characters 3 years ago and told these were the ones that would be important in the MCU moving forward
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Does anyone actually like shang chi-nese
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>sexo is allowed back in mtg
>but only for UB sets
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Any other 3D print chads?
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>>98177263
Making new ones. I have 33 going 9n 34. I tinker when the deck isn't functions well, but that's pretty rare. Occationally I'll look over the deck lists and see if there are any cards that don't synergise well. It's not something I particuparly love doing, though.
Deck building I do love. I cannot tell you how many I've brewed. Hundreds, likely.
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>>98177899
The dumped their QA department in order to meet diversity quotas.
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how to get an mtg gf?
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>>98177899
Its automatic word wrapping because of 'commander' and 'graveyard' . In older cards they'd just make the font smaller or something
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>>98178157
No, they go in a suitcase that I make a custom foam liner for, and inside 3d printed deck boxes that I des8gned myself, printed myself, then painted and varnished myself.
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>>98178525
play minotaur's
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>>98178525
Be a drug mule cause they're all druggies, or be into trannies, cause there are litterally more trannies in mtg than women.
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>>98178545
You're late.
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>>98178501
Yeah, but I have an og enter 3, so no dual filament stuff. Also it's borked right now. I only print deck boxes, really, and paint them.
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>>98178554
>he thinks i dont know that he made >>98161928 hours in advance before posting the link just so he can get his furryfaggot OP
You're that pathetic and bound for another image spam meltdown, funny how those haven't happened for some threads now, what a coinkydink
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>>98178532
This guy's not half bad. These make token regardless of who's nontoken creature dies is cool.
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jfc i didn't think my friend would take an actual 20 minute turn

he killed us all after resolving all that shit but we couldn't stop laughing the whole time with how ridiculous this was
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>>98178592
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These are the four commanders I am interested in building for this set. Which one would you pick?
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>>98178681
Thor seems pretty fun
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>>98178693
Thor is literally generic goodstuff cancer
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>>98178681
Daredevil looks the most unique and fun. Nico Minoru seems to have the most potential.
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>>98178681
Out of those, Nico
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>>98178706
yeah and I like generic goodstuff cancer
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>>98178651
How did he cast Night's Whisper (sorcery) during combat?
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Sussin or bussin?
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>>98177888
Kind of strange that the precon has a bunch of rehashes of characters who already have a bunch of cards in the main set and Jumpstart, and then we get this literally who.
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>>98178739
there's multiple literally whos this time at least
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>my pod is Knuckles, Aerith, Rivaz, and me on Celes
>Knux and Aerith are both zoomers
>Rivaz is ramping and slapping down bigass dragon on turn 3 and burning us all
>Aerith constantly missing triggers and asking for takebacks and rewinds
>Knuckles jerking off with all his treasure triggers and synergies (also missing alot of triggers and asking for takebacks)
but
>these tards keep crying to me about 'taking too long' for my turns because I'm properly announcing my game actions and not missing my triggers (while trying to stop Rivas from murderfucking us all)
Death to all zoomers
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>>98178719
He had one of those "You may cast spells as though they had Flash" way at the start
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>>98178681
How exactly is Daredevil viable in a four player format?
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>>98178749
The fact you let that happen against Azula means the ensuing turn is your fault.
>But we didn't have it
There's a threshold where a toddler would be unable to lose the game off the resource advantage given. Conceding is the correct play.
>But we had fun
Disregard previous statement.
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>>98178157
nope, 3d printed deckboxes go in the deckbox bag waiting for the next commander night.
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>>98178748
Rivaz is the only based nigga there and deserved to murderfuck you all
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>>98178745
That's in Jumpstart, I was talking specifically about the precon. Only literally whos there were Jocasta and Firebird.
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>>98178762
who said he is
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>>98178745
>The Whizzer
>wears yellow
kek
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>>98178748
niggas will tell you that you take forever and then in the next breath announce they missed triggers and pause.
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>>98178781
This is the EDH thread NIGGA!
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>>98178774
player A was on White/Green and slapped down a Turn 1 Root Maze, which slowed player B and me trying to get it off the board

while we were busy with that, player A hit Azula with a Path to Exile during combat instead of before combat, so in response he just did his giga combo with spell doubling and killed player A outright with instants, fizzling the Path to Exile

and since player B and I had no more resources left he was able to just end the game off of that, seeing as neither of us thought he was going to dump EVERYTHING to avoid Azula getting yeeted

we all had a good laugh and agreed to smack Azula player upside the head if that ever happened IRL
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Over a year later and Tarkir Dragonstorm hasn’t been surpassed in art, flavor, or creativity. How did they do it?
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Final Fantasy II when
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Tarkir Poopstorm
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>>98178941
SE will probably do other shit with wotc first, like manga or dragon quest, but probably 2028
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You DO have a Braket 4 deck right anon?
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>>98178762
multiply the triggers and give him lifelink doofus
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>>98177347
I mean if the meme is just using this guy to head a mono green lotr deck then yeah
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>>98178956
>play with my technically bracket 4 decks
>lose
>friend says "your decks are mostly bracket 2 right?"
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>>98179002
this same thing happened to me...
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>>98178956
I had a bracket 4 Astarion deck but it was really boring to win with (ermmmm you lose half your life, then le double that!) so made it into a bracket 3 Lotho, Corrupt Shirrif
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>red player has Blood Moon in his deck
>says his deck is a 'low 3'
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>>98179015
I say the same thing when I have a Winter Orb and Blood Moon in mine
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>>98178956
I did but thats because the first ff deck I made was squall with stax pieces and land-killing lands
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>>98178956
Archidekt had it estimated as a Bracket 4, but this analyzer has it estimated as a Bracket 3 Upgraded (but it also has the entire strategy of the deck wrong).
In reality, it has the strength of a Bracket 2 deck.
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>>98179015
My players at my lgs just ignore me whenever I ask them which bracket their decks are(all have bracket 4 decks). Now I only bring bracket 4 decks.
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>>98178956
I like to park my decks around bracket 3, I think it's fun to watch people build boards up or break them. Though, people get caught up in the building part and not swing when they should be. It's my job to end the b3 daycare.
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>>98178930
>Homosexuals design set
>It's good
>Trannies design set
>It's bad
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>>98178681
Nico and Daredevil are appealing to me.
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>>98178956
Of course.
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>>98179015
Sometimes I throw Blood Moon in cheaper decks that don't run a lot of non-basics for a laugh.
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>>98179071
what Analyzer site is that?
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>>98179148
https://scrollvault.net/
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>>98178956
It says I do
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>>98179015
>ONE enchantment that you're probably not tutoring for in mono red is a big deal
Brackets were a mistake.
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>>98178956
No but generally my most powerful B3 deck can hang if people want to play B4. I just kinda have to live with sometimes randomly losing to a turn 4 combo because the deck literally isn't built to fight stuff that fast.
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>>98179152
this website isnt analyzing my eshki deck correctly
its saying I present a win around turn 9 when im consistently threatening the table on turn 4
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>>98179240
Precon Eshki or tdm Eshki?
Also post deck please.
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>target opponent
Literally unplayable
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I need more combos and faster clocks
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what the fuck was WOTC smoking with this design.
>pairs perfectly with strionic resonator/roaming throne
>can completely shut out boards with any death touch token generator and sac outlet which is dirt easy in golgari
>gain double value with Dictate of Erebos
genuinely what the actual fuck
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>>98179337
>>pairs perfectly with strionic resonator/roaming throne
completely (COMPLETELY) irrelevant, you can't force someone to pay Ward costs. It's just slightly worse Hexproof at that point.
>>can completely shut out boards with any death touch token generator and sac outlet which is dirt easy in golgari
>>gain double value with Dictate of Erebos
oh wow an aristocrats commander can lock out the board, never seen that before
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>>98179369
if you don't see the difference of 3 CMC in golgari and 5 cmc in mono black you might be clinically retarded.
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>>98179380
you might be clinically retarded if you think Serpent Society is going to be half as effective as Braids or Tergrid or even Sheoldred as an aristocrats commander
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If I could go back in time I would force the Magic community to call Aristocrats something not retarded
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>>98179390
I'd rather just strangle Mark Rosewater before he started working for Wizards of the Coast
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>>98179390
it's the aristocrats!
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>>98177347
>memes bad unless it's 'fantasy' memes like avatar
THE QUENCHIEST
IT'S ROUGH BUDDY
MY CABBAGES x15
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>>98177347
yes. Behold my commander
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https://moxfield.com/decks/mcLmNb_Elki30CmFbEYtfQ
is this the vibe?
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>>98179421
no those were bad too
UB was a mistake

also turning people into dinosaurs literally isn't Sauron's thing outside of that one meme comic where he teams up with Stegron (the character who actually wants to turn people into dinosaurs)
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>>98179240
I don't believe that at all
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>>98179421
A meme from the source material versus from outside it makes a difference.
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>>98179439
but the Sauron meme is also from the source material
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>>98179438
I can very consistently get eshki, a lot of mana, and a bunch of "whenever you cast a 4 power guy draw a card" spells by turn 4
eshkis wide damage ramps up the moment she comes into play unless shes killed on sight by everyone at the table
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>>98179337
>>98179369
What are the least salty ways to play Golgari? I tried Meren since she seems to be a staple and I got people mad as fuck just by cycling Sporefrog and Fungus a few times
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>>98179071
post it
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>>98179452
Jarad can be fun if you don't build as aristocrats lockdown. Ramp to big fatties then pitch them for big damage
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>>98178930
that's the inferior printing THO
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>>98179452
Blech
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>>98179445
No, it's from the source material but the meme isn't. The other stuff is a running joke within the show, as the other anon said that was just a one off that became a meme in the internet in general.
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>>98179472
except for MY CABBAGES, the other two are also one-off jokes in the show
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>>98179448
I don't believe you are threatening 40 damage consistently by turn 4 unless you can demonstrate it. Not being mean, I just logically do not believe it.
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>>98178956
all *true* bracket 4 decks in practice decks that realistically can't hack it in cedh, but to differentiate it from bracket 5 it comes with the agreement that you will only combo off starting on your turn 5, giving your opponents up to turn 4 to live, just as gavin envisioned
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Game changes have to be one of the fucking stupidest things that was ever invented for balance.
Only someone who thoroughly enjoyed the land system could've done it.
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>>98179491
I suspect Gavin would do away with lands if he thought he could get away with it
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New mail drop
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>>98179456
https://archidekt.com/decks/21072309/dont_forget
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>>98179491
but enough about rhystic being a fair card according to the previous guy
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>>98179491
A working system is right there but WotC won't do it because:
>It would take effort (remember Arena only has cards released after 2016)
>The average EDH player is too retarded to figure it out
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>>98179521
I don't know what the fuck this is but a point system would be vastly superior to the current system of "ehhh just kind of vibe it out"
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>>98179532
That's literally what Genesys is. However WotC doesn't want to go through the effort of pointing cards and the average EDH player is actually retarded so they wouldn't be able to figure it out.
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>>98179514
it is in practice a bracket 2 strength deck, but your insistence to keep tpro and your *technically possible* chance of comboing off on ~t7 is throwing off people
practically speaking you should remove tpro and either remove the "early combos" or sandbag your infinite to a b2 appropriate turn 9 to make it clear to everyone that your b2 deck is in fact a b2, but hey it's your deck
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>>98179152
>have both worst fears and aeon engine in my b2 deck
>this says "no feel bad cards detected"
lmao those two cards made my bud go on a rant despite me not even drawing them in the game we played
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>>98179535
>a ygo anon is telling us how to run a multiplayer game
lol
anyways, once you stop being a casual timmy and put yourself in the shoes of a tournament organizer implementing brackets is actually very easy
>hint: it's all about *when* people can combo off
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>>98179547
points system solves the problem and is far easier to implement and enforce than vibes-based or "no winning before turn X" systems
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>>98178930
>>98179465
a delve commander seemed so cool, i really wanted to run this guy but the third ability is such a drag
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>>98179547
TOs don't even want to manage EDH at all because of how much whining and collusion occurs.
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>>98179550
the third ability is what makes it fun, you either win or you kill yourself
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>hate "nuh uh" cards like one ring and teferis, make it a point to not run them
>get interested in building up Sauron
>would kinda be lame if he didn't have his signature artifact

Maybe I'll let myself have it on just this one list for the flavor
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>>98179549
and who decides the points? (You)? lol
at least "no winning before turn X" is based on gavin's words, it's not like i pulled them out of my ass just cuz
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>>98179559
Who decides the banlist? (You)?
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>>98179563
>Who decides the banlist?
gavin, with GCs being an extra banlist to b2
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>>98179559
just use the canlander values
or all current game changers are worth 1 point, each deck can have up to 3 points, your point value determines your bracket
or Gavin and his chucklefucks actually put in a little effort instead of shitting out a vibes-based ruleset
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>>98179566
and what makes you think a point system would not have the same governing authority? The fact they would need to actually update it?
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Sol Ring? Not a game changer.
Mox Diamond? Game changer.
Mox Ruby? Banned no matter what.

Make it make sense.
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>>98179569
>and what makes you think a point system would not have the same governing authority?
because it's not made by wotc
you can hate wotc for many things, but wotc owns the game and people will defer to them first over some random with a hot take, proven by the fact that nobody takes custom cards seriously
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>>98179577
Meds. Now.
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>>98179582
>saying wotc owns the game and thus have word of god is le bad
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Thinking about building a deck for pic related
If you copy a spell, does that count for effects that check for casting your second spell in a turn?
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>>98179577
>If WotC made a point system they wouldn't own it because... they just wouldn't!
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>>98178956
Yes. I enjoy real commander
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>>98179607
>If
hey if gavin changed his mind and went to points system i'm down, better email him i guess
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>>98179552
reminder that the true purpose of brackets is organized play at the LGS and beyond
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>>98179611
Legit nigger tier conceptualization skills. Yes "if" you fucking retard.
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>>98179604
no, only if the effect says "you may cast the copy"
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>>98179619
which is never going to happen because EDH is fundamentally incompatible with organized play
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>>98179630
balls
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>>98179634
>what are commander parties
that's just the beginning btw
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if it adds more mana than it costs, gamechanger
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>>98179576
All famous mtg online personalities have banned sol ring whenever they play commander. I guess that's the solution of wotc. Just ban it yourself...
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>>98179669
i love it when people swear up and down that edh is casual but at the same time cry about t1 sol ring letting people snowball to victory
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>>98179576
What possessed Wizards to print more Mox cards after the original ones were famously super balanced and had absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever
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>>98179678
NTA but I don't mind Sol Ring in terms of the snowball potential. I just hate that it's Commander+Sol Ring+98. There's never a time you won't run it, so it should just be banned.
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>>98179681
so just because arcane signet is a couple of percentage points lower than sol ring (what, only 97% of decks would run it?), it gets a pass?
nah, all sol ring complaints are from sore losers that refuse to let timmy stomp 8% of the time in a casual game
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>>98179699
Arcane Signet should be banned, as should every other card that mentions commander rules in its rules text.
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>>98179705
PrEDH is dead for a reason though
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>>98179705
Even Jocasta?
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>>98179709
EVERY
CARD
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>>98179699
The problem is if you banned Sol Ring and Arcane, people would immediately latch onto another card. Like if Arcane was banned, everyone would migrate to a 3c mana rock that gave any colored mana.
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>>98177347

The funny epic meme Commander deck I've been tinkering with is built on the premise of running all 53 "game changer" cards that casuals aren't supposed to run, because fuck you Wizards I won't do what you tell me!

The strategy for this deck seems to be "use a five-color commander and lots of dual lands to qualify for Coalition Victory win condition, and use tutors to find Coalition Victory and some counterspells to counter your opponents' attempts to stop you."
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>>98179721
Like?
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>>98179721
exactly that's why any sol ring haters are to be dismissed entirely, the whole thing is easily summarized as sheldon once again not knowing any better so people should just move on and let people stomp 8% of the time in a "casual" game
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>>98179699
I'd ban Arcane Signet too. I would be up for banning all mana rocks honestly.
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>>98179721
It needs to be combined with a starting life reduction.
Mana rocks are required because aggro isn't possible, so you MUST ramp. Aggro isn't possible because Magic is designed around 20 life, not 120.
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I think commander is fine idk
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>>98177888
>Decently low cost
>Artifact
>Likes counters
>Likes your commander attacking
>Likes to be discarded.

Damn this might genuinely make the cut in my Ivora list.
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>>98179739
>I would be up for banning all mana rocks honestly.
>Dude let's push one of the formats strongest colors into literal god-tier power levels
Were you dropped on your head as a child or did you lick a lot of lead painted walls?
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>Bracket 3 decklist
>Check inside
>$3000
No.
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>>98179776
Yes.
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>>98179776
Fancy prints can send stuff to the moon. Price is not indicative of power.
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>Bracket 2: Deck costs <=$50
>Bracket 3: Deck costs <=$100
>Bracket 4: Deck costs <=$200
>Bracket 5: No cost restriction
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There are no bracket 5 landslop decks
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>>98179547
ngl ygobro, but i gotta agree with the goonmander tokenspammer
ygo players cannot even conceptualize the concept of multiplayer
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>>98178728
>fun deckbuilding puzzle
>cute girl
it's a win win
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How do I build a white deck without it being either hatebears or blinkslop I just can't do it
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>>98179797
Build her and beat ass.
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>>98179780
>b5 is the only bracket without kitchen table baby cards
>3+ colors is automatically either dogshit unplayable or b5
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>>98179803
good.
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>>98179797
Blinkslop is fun, nigger.
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>>98179797
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>i have a cheap deck that would be considered b4+ because it has infinite turn combo it can ideally do at t6
bracket seems unreliable and vague af
why don't they just make a point system?
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>>98179809
>just totally gave up on fluffy when mana crypt was banned
I could have just replaced it with mana vault, but it just wasn't the same...
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https://moxfield.com/decks/UEC9o1kv8EupMJXTxx1OGQ
Any KEY cards I need for this vibe?
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>>98179812
>he's a newfag that doesn't know wotc used to say modern was a turn 4 format
there's nothing vague about putting combo turn limits, this isn't wotc's first time doing it too
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>>98179819
>open link
>see commander
>close window
Smothering Tithe I guess
*shivers*
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>>98179797
Do you want tokenslop? There's also mono white comboslop, tribalslop, lifegainslop, Enchantressslop, Controlslop, and voltronslop.
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is this the best looking arcane signet?
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>>98179830
Bait, but I fell for it regardless.
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>>98179797
>have my white deck open in another tab
>hatebears AND blinkslop
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>>98179819
Cool interactions
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>>98179824
thank you, chatgpt
very cool
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>>98179812
Because they are vague and unreliable
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>>98179835
I just picked up some more from this set recently, some signed, sol ring is next on the buy list :^)
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>>98179537
I don't play with anyone that takes brackets seriously, so I like it feeling like a semi-casual deck that can rocket up in power depending on my mood. I could make it a "true" B2 deck, but I like having the option to go for the infinite combos it does have because they're far from auto-wins and are completely fucked just by having a blocker in place. They're far from something like one of those Exquisite Blood combos, and mostly just a way to delete a player who's somehow gotten 100+ life and feels a little too safe with that.

The deck mostly exists just to have fun with several different strategies that loop into each other while I play around with weird interactions, all in hope that I somehow end up with 8+ mana so I can cast Razia and watch her get Plowed/Pathed/Bladed/Tripped/etc.
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So what decks are people currently working on?
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kambal + wernog is a crazy combo (I assume players will never take the clue?)
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>>98179876
im waiting for moxfield to update with the jumpstart cards to finish off my UB deck
I want to represent as many possible random ass collabs while still maintaining a solid b3 deck
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>>98179873
just fyi you already can play it as a "true" b2, just sandbag your infinites until your t9
>but i want to take my small chance to kill the whole table t6 when they're all tapped out with no blockers!
it's all fun and games until i present a deck with a better chance of comboing off early while still passing the vibe check of "hey it's inconsistent enough", then you start to wonder if things just become a race as to can best gaslight their pod that their combo is "inconsistent enough"
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>>98179721
"There will always be another staple" is not the same as "The existing staples are huge outliers from the rest of the game"
I don't think you fully grasp how large the gap is between a 3-mana rock (Chromatic Lantern or Commander's Sphere, take your pick) and Arcane Signet, and how the gap between Arcane Signet and Sol Ring is even larger.
If the logic of "there will always be a next-best option" held true as rationale for not banning something, Black Lotus would still be legal.
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>>98179924
>i don't want to blame sheldon for his mistake and move on
>no i'll keep complaining about a card that's been so reprinted to oblivion and has become a mascot of the format (like brainstorm is for legacy) that's it's a nightmare to ban
many such cases
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>>98179935
I know it's easy for you to post bait like a retard but I'm here trying to actually engage with another anon.
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>>98179484
lol man the bracket system is such a fucking mistake. imagine trying to communicate FUN to a bunch of autistis.
>"I'm not running game changers or land destruction or extra turns so I'm bracket 2"
>proceeds to play a 20 minute turn 4 three card non deterministic combo win
>"wow that never happens"
every. fucking. time.
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>>98179943
the other anon you were talking to was right, mana vault is more broken than sol ring (another of sheldon's mistakes) and the only reason that card's not everywhere is because wotc made it so by rarely reprinting it
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>>98179961
>proceeds to play a 20 minute turn 4 three card non deterministic combo win
that's why brackets are best played with combo turn limits, t9+ for b2 for example, it's the simplest way of preventing early lame wins while not policing people on what combos they can run
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"Address me," said the elephant.
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What are your favorite REAL BIG niggas to run in your ramp/reanimator/cheat decks
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>>98178194

Back in the 90’s you could run a meme deck or counter meta deck at your LGS and blow peoples minds in tournaments. This was the infancy of net decking so people just rand whatever was popular in the few magic sites covering Grand Prix’s. Now it’s full on sweatlords who test their deck for hours on some online magic deck tester. Net decking really hurt the soul of magic. It’s really hard to find obscure combos or random jank to surprise people with that isn’t posted all over Reddit.

Magic is full blown single player mode now.
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>>98180009
so the lesson here is you should not leave your basement lest you find a sweatlord in the wild, got it
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>>98179876
Believe I am just about done with working on Zada, got a good feel for it this weekend and made a few changes. Orders placed and now we play the waiting game.
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>>98177888

lol wtf is this text? This is some jeet tier shit
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>>98178532

Absolute CHAD card. Shits all over global warming homos. I love this even more because all my stocks are OIL.
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does this work
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>>98180033
yeah
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>>98180037
cool thanks
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>>98179390
If I could go back in time I would force them to make an actually balanced color pie
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>>98180013

My area has lost lots of magic players. There is very few left which is sad. All these local sweatlords are betas so they have no children to teach magic to. So by default I’m playing the same neckbeards I knew for 20 years. To see a new young magic player is RARE.
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>>98179721
3 mana mana rocks can't lead to 5 mana (3 of it colored) on turn 2 the same way Sol Ring+Signet can.
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>>98179876
I'm going to build the muscle mommy
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>>98180056
The pie is balanced, when you include bends. Treating them like they were a mistake is the problem.
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>>98179752
Agreed. My list for her had always been pretty tight but there's cards this set that genuinely look worth a slot.
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>>98180082
There are lots of children and young people who play, they just don't play at LGSs because that's where the sweatlords/neckbeards are.
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>>98179830
I've always really liked the Fallout one. I don't give a shit about or have ever played a Fallout game but flavor text and art for this one do it for me. I usually use it or the Duskmourn one.
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>>98180092
>1-2 colors have a near monopoly on fundamental game mechanics

Yeah bro the pie is totally balanced that's why Simic is considered easy mode.
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Is there a "you can choose nonlegendary creatures as your commander" game format that also includes "can have any two creatures as partners"? Because I don't think I can Rule 0 this into happening
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>>98180138
yes it's called rule zero
>I don't think I can rule zero
then too bad
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>>98180138
Pick a 3 mana commander and build around birthing pod.
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>>98179847
Based
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>>98180117
>It's another episode of Timmy thinking Rampant Growth is OP
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>>98179731
Chromatic Lantern?
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It really bothers me that Squirrel Girl and Tippy-Toe aren't Partners... seems like a huge flavor miss.
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>>98180089
why is regular human jenny walthers a 2/3 and not a 1/1 what the fuck, she's just a regular lady
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>no Immortal Hulk
>no day/night OG Hulk
>not even a Joe Fixit
Shit set.
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>>98180320
Because she works out and being a lady lawyer makes her tougher than most.
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>>98180320
She should be a 1/5. There's no reason for her to be strong in human form, but Hulks are hard to kill.
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>>98180138
I thought ot that as well but, if you think about it, that's a total of 8 mana for a 10/10 with reach and a 4/4 lord. You can do much better than that in green
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>>98180368
Yes, agreed. However.
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>>98178501
I dont have one but I get a friend to print things for me
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>>98178501
Yes! Currently using this box I found on makerworld, but I've been working on teaching myself cad so I can make some stuff for myself and my group. Have a deckbox I'm currently trying to learn how to make and a decent sized centerpiece with a lifecounter(ipad) and raised spots for everyone's commanders. Then I have some fun ideas for tokens/counters but I need to learn a bit more.
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>>98177263
>TQ: Do you prefer making new decks, or tinkering with old ones?
Now that I've built playable 6th deck, I should prioritize to upgrade current ones with both latest and upcoming in-universe cards.
New UB releases have some interesting potential commander, but my personal struggle is building these decks only using that specific UB setting. Hobbit has good amount of supplement material from Tales of Middle-earth, but I will potentially miss out of one or two big play cards.
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do you guys really end games at turn 4~6?
nobody that you play with runs any interaction?
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>>98177263
>Do you prefer making new decks, or tinkering with old ones?
I started tinkering with precons to add more of what I liked but once I started making my own I really enjoyed the process. Though I only have 3 completed right now, I love playing them and have some more ideas for the next ones.
It's also a good exercise on restraint because my friends mainly play with precons so I have to keep it toned down.
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>>98177263
>>TQ: Do you prefer making new decks, or tinkering with old ones?
After completing the 32 deck challenge (which took me about 12 years) I'm having way more fun upgrading old decks with all the newer/better stuff that has come out. They're all super budget/b2 stuff, so cards like Bender's Waterskin/Diary of Dreams/Tanglespan Lookout have been incredible for them
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>>98180585
The only games that end that quick are the tryhard sweaties tutoring/cheating out infinite combos. Noncancer decks always take quite a bit longer
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>>98180585
it's amazing how no one runs removal, there's no downside to voltron
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>>98180644
Fucking right?? When the hell did this become a thing? My budget ass $60 voltron deck had like a 5% winrate for YEARS and then outta nowhere I build Tajic up in like 3-4 turns and one by one knock people out no sweat
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Is the Avengers deck looking any good?
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>>98180644
>Run terminal
>voltron deck tutors for every protection possible
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>>98180649
I blame edhrec. The way it's formatted, removal gets listed in the instant and sorceries section and it has to compete for the spotlight with every other synergistic spell. Retards will include 1, maybe 2 spot removals and 1 boardwipe because they're in 90% of decks and call it a day
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>>98180690
Looks good to me. I was originally going to run Nick Fury as a commander because of his cost reduction and value engine, but it's clear that most of the creatures in the deck want to attack as soon as possible but lack Haste, so I think Captain America is better as a Haste enabler that also buffs everything.
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>dicking around with Captain Ngathrod
>so far he's my only creature on field
>hit another guy with Traumatize to hopefully yoink one of his beefy boys
>as I move to end step and search his graveyard he just concedes at instant speed and I get nothing

Should i be annoyed? I mean I got another player out of the match for cheap but then I died anyway two turns later
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>>98180975
No player is obligated to let you touch their cards.
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>>98180983
Time to build Aetherdrift Gonti and make everyone touch each other card then.
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>>98180992
she cute
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>>98180983
Give me the card
Or I will fucking end you.
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>>98177899
checked; lmao yeah wtf
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Why the hell is there no card of the Punisher in the Marvel set??
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>>98181109
Nobody cares.
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>>98181109
Gotta save something for the four other sets
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>>98178681
Daredevil seems extremely fun
that Spiderman has to be for Legacy/Vintage right wtf is that gonna do in cmdr
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>>98180992
Is this guy's precon any good? Turbo-robbing cards sounds like fun, but the last time I remember using a Thief of sanity in a deck I only got useless synergy pieces or lands so I'm skeptical.
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>>98181188
I find Corum to be a very fun theft commander
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>Speedball deck but he is the secret commander
>commander is Child of Alara
>all other creatures are children
>opponent has to stop you from blowing up the kids
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>>98181284
cool izzet voltron commander
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>>98180983
>triple sleeved proxyfag refuses people to touch his cards
>meanwhile i let people touch my single sleeved real cards that i riffle shuffle 15x before every game
So much for muh game pieces huh lol
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>>98181299
that's a biological woman btw
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>>98181299
>buy my super rare coins!
Nah i'll just proxy them
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Post chads
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>>98181188
He's awesome every time he comes out in my Don Andres deck.
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>>98178501
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>>98181425
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>>98179240
Threatening the table =/= winning that turn. Turn 9 is the expected turn you will win.
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>>98179291
Depends on the effect.
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>>98179452
Meren is bs not because of golgari shit but because of experiance counters being uninteractable and escalating. There's tons of perfectly reasonable golgari commanders, most of them. Here is mine.
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>>98179380
I just played against it recently. Get them before they set up and you're fine, ideally with exile.
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>>98181924
that was what I realized upon going to the game as well but the 2 other players couldnt set up in time and didnt start bashing the serpent society player immediately. I think 3cmc is still way to low of a cost for what it enables.
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>>98177347
My Lathiel deck is about to get diggydig
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>>98179426
A surprisingly solid vehicle commander.
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>>98179803
>lands coming in tapped make all decks unplayable
lol
lmao even
My 5 color deck is a fuckin gate deck. Gates. It works fine, mate, you're just a turn behind mana-wise, no big deal.
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>>98179819
You need more effects that create tokens for oppoents.
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>>98179819
You should take out your rocks and add more lands. You mana curve is too low to be running any, outside of sol ring cause it's +1.
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>>98179876
Just about to put together Zahur, then I just need to pick one of my red decks I've brewed to test, modify, then build. Then I have successfully "replaced" my all my 'too oppressive for regular play' decks in my every color deck challenge with fun ones. I wonder if someone's made a shelf to specifically display their decks for the challenge, I just have a shallow plywood shelf.
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>>98182096
Boo, here's the image
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>>98179889
Not unless they have a huge life total so it actually benefits them, or they really need the card draw.
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>>98180996
>UB of UW of UB
Holy basedslop
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>>98181425
I love his design so much. A shame the card is what it is (and also that the character's been blackwashed).
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>>98180585
>nobody that you play with runs any interaction?
I took the gofasterpill. I'm betting that my deck is faster than yours and if I lose we can try again next game. Protection>Removal. Do I regret this a lot? Yes. Does it feel good to go fast? Yes.
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>>98182157
>the character's been blackwashed
He has two cards from the same set anon
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>>98180585
In my pod, no one runs removal but me. If someone pops off they look at me like I'm going to solve their problem, but yes, I ALWAYS have it.
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>>98181206
That shovel would be ridiculously hard to dig with.
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>>98182192
It's a shovel, not a spade. Spades are for digging, shovels are for moving earth.
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>>98182178
Oh, didn't know. I guess the artists just had different ideas in-mind.
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>>98181206
This shovel would be ridiculously hard to move earth with.
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>>98182192
>>98182256
>>98182332
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>hero
This motherfucker detonated a bioweapon in Earth's atmosphere.
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>>98182374
BLACK BOLT COULD DESTROY YOU WITH ONE WHISPER FROM HIS MOUTH
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>>98182374
>inhuman
What the genuine duck are these creature types
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>>98182384
Remember before UB when they were trying to consolidate creature types?
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>>98182374
>not "Blackagar Boltagon, Black Bolt"
Actually, I wish they DID do that. Hero Alias, Name
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>>98182499
nobody would ever play a card called "blackagar boltagon"
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>>98182395
probably because they knew they were going to vomit all this retardation out
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>>98182511
But they'll play a card called "Cabbage Merchant"?
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>>98182395
No, because that was just weak lip service and they still made new random pointless creature types for no reason even in non-Universe Beyond sets.
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>>98182521
People like the Cabbage Merchant.
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>Leremy
WRU
Critter, 2/2
Leremy

IF A TRIGGERED ABILITY WOULD CAUSE A PLAYER TO DRAW A CARD, THAT PLAYER DISCARDS A CARD INSTEAD. If that ability came from a commander, this then ability has eminence.

If declaring an attack, casting a spell, declaring a blocker, or drawing a card would incur an additional cost of any kind from a source an opponent controls, that opponent must pay the price, or exile half their permanents and their hand.
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>>98182256
Fact check: Digging is moving earth
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>>98182647
A moron’s eldrazi. Destroy permanent etb on colorless is fairly brutal. Easy reanimate flicker
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>>98182647
Possibly de facto banned on account of it not being non-land permanent.
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>>98180992
How ironic that you would mention that on the same day this gets revealed.
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Gotta say the country is healing.

BIG TITS ARE BACK BABY
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>>98182345
I love these little nibbas like you wouldn't believe.
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>>98182374
>detonated a bio weapon against humanity.
The hero we deserve, not which we need.
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>>98182374
>black bolt
>not black or black
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>>98182772
>black bolt
>not black or red
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>>98182704
How many 4c commanders are in this set?
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>>98182374
So he's jewish?
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>>98182704
They made a pushed Vivi lmao
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>>98182975
vivi blows her out of the fucking water. this bitch is made to ride niv-cock
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>>98182772
>>98182777
>does not deal 3
neither is he bolt
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Professions should not be creature types.
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>>98183239
>cleric
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>>98183314
Yes.
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>>98182780
>>98182780
>>98182780
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>>98182988
Niv's the one riding cock all day
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>>98183239
>Soldier
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>>98182395
Yes. It was a good idea, I liked it. Made sense. This is mind-numbingly retarded.
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>>98182698
Targetted land hate is fine and always has been.



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