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Crimson Fist Edition

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru
https://40k.gallery/

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh

>Pre 10th Torrent:
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>10th/11th Edition Rules
https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTL
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>Alternative rules:
https://onepagerules.com/
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>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)
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>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)
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>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)
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>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)
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>Previous Thread:
>>98173506

>thread question:
Who is your favourite named character in the 40K Universe?
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>>98180321
>Who is your favorite named character in the 40K Universe?
Me
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>>98180321
>mfw waiting for Grey Knights refresh to come out
WHEN????
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>anon literally thought it was head cannon
>and tried to argue canon wasn't a real word without fact checking
Grim, armies for this feel?
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Keep crying faggot
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>>98180370
You have to be over 18 to use this site
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>>98180364
>canon
like the company?
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So how come World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, and Emperor's Children aren't Codex Supplements to Chaos Space Marines?
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Omnissiah, bless this thread.
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>>98180376
>I like to pretend I'm talking to minors online
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>>98180383
Uh oh redditor melty
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>>98179973
It's supposed to be a more autistic version of
"traditional games?" posting, a check to see if one actually plays games and isn't just a "lorefag"
It's funny because it implies there aren't people who only coomlect and play arts and crafts with minis but don't play the game or outright hate it. And works even less when you apply it to games outside of gw ones, and even less when you apply it to RPG's where minis are optional
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As a guardfag I hope Combined Arms is 2 dp and Grizzled Company is 3. I love my lethals but beyond that it's not as impactful as Grizzled imo.
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>>98180392
I already know Renegade Raiders is gonna be 3dp for my CSM. I've made peace with this.
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Ok, got some playtesting in finally. I'm pretty happy with this list. Lots of objective and mission action squads, a tarpit squad to clog up the middle contested objective, and then a few shooty units to make a bubble. Very much an objective orientated list but I like that. I really like splitting squads and then parking half to farm faith points, it feels very efficient. And the bread and butter of the list is to remove cover with the immolators, increase armor pen with the castigators, then do the heavy lifting with the paragons last to use the combined special rules, this kind of synergy list is really what I go for in games. I'm not really a death ball player, or a giant centerpiece player.

I'm actually pretty 50/50 split on Bringers of Flame vs Champions of Faith. This list has stuff that typically goes for both of those at pretty even split so it's hard to decide. But I think I'm leaning towards Champions since the three units it buffs happens to be three of the important units in this list.

https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/boEJ7

>favorite named character
I like Sister Verity, the protagonist of Faith&Fire. I think they did a good job of portraying someone who is not that bad of a person but is stuck in 40k so they have to deal with it. Similar reason lots of people like Ciaphus Cain, who is another old favorite.
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Stupid question, but... I forgot to buy inks for shadings. Can I try using my fountain pen's ink bottles as a shitty substitute?
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>>98180440
Fuck no. They'll be super duper saturated, wont flow like a wash, abd a pain to work with.

You would need to buy matte medium to make them workable. Also you'd need to thin them like 1 part ink, 5 parts medium.
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>>98180444
Oh well, it was worth asking...
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R8 my ork list

Strike Force (2000 Point)
War Horde

CHARACTER
Beastboss (80 points)
Ghazghkull Thraka (235 points)
Painboy (105 points) (follow me ladz)
Warboss (75 points)
Warboss (75 points)
Wazdakka Gutsmek (175 points)

BATTLELINE
Beast Snagga Boyz (95 points)
Boyz (170 points)

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Trukk (70 points)
Trukk (70 points)

OTHER DATASHEETS
Breaka Boyz (140 points)
Deff Dread (120 points)
Flash Gitz (80 points)
Gretchin (40 points)
Gretchin (40 points)
Kommandos (120 points)
Nobz (105 points)
Stormboyz (65 points)
Tankbustas (140 points)
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Unfortunately I’m not immune to James’s propaganda cause I’m really hankering to buy the new models after seeing them in store. I’ve got no fucking space for it lmao.
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Tacticool chaos style. Be even cooler if the csm or raiders kits had some drum mags, or wood grain on parts of the bolter, or users hand fused into the bolter grip.
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>>98180446
Theyll make great glazes, especially the yellow. But only if you already own them. If not steer clear.
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>>98180387
Posting Models at least reveals you as someone That actually engaged with the hobby.
>arts and crafts with minis but don't play the game or outright hate it
Kitbashing was aways present and in early edition even encouraged. Granted these days GW prefers monopole overdesigned Bs even for High model count armies. (See IG for 40k and COS for AOS)
>And works even less when you apply it to games outside of gw ones, and even less when you apply it to RPG's where minis are optional
When someone says Post Models it's uussualy on Warhammer threads. Tho aperentaly that reached even Twitter (now X). Still You say dumb shit abaut models or Warhammers then at least engage with a hobby on an even Kiddie pool level of depth and buy and Paint some Minis.
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>>98180463
>jungle mags & chain bayonet
Putting the cool in tacticool for sure, lovely.
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>>98180463
Wood on the Bolters is unfortunately a iconic aspect of the Death Guard, so you’ll have to get some stinky Marines for them, even if it’s just stealing their bits. You can also run them in a vanilla Chaos Marine army though.
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>only the most powerful detachments like gladius will be 3 double penetration points
>every blood angels detachment that anyone has ever played is 3DP
Wow, that really gets me pumped for some heckin' experimentation...
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>>98180463
Has your camera got AI on? Looks weirdly blurry
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>>98180387
>It's supposed to be a more autistic version of
"traditional games?" posting
Nta but that may be true to the anchor post type posting, but for 99% of the use of "post model" it's when a fag is baiting or lost an argument and decides to derail/ad hominem.
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>>98180449
I don't play Orks but looks fun (might get some one day)
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>>98180440
Newfag here, what's the use case for inks over washes?
What is the situation where I'd want to use, for example, purple ink over a purple wash?
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>>98180476
Don't the red corsairs raiders have wood on some of their bolters?
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I predict starting this edition this 'eight gods of chaos' idea will begin to take shape.
Monogods will be folded into their Cult Legions, Daemon codex will be squatted this edition.
Vashtorr will get his Forge of Souls daemons with the Iron Warriors.
Then in 12th we will get a new god/demigod/wannabe god of chaos, then 13th the third, and they will slowly exapnd Belakors own deamon faction as the Neo-Malal that he is
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>AI slop

It's over. GW said no AI and they're lying. Or someone is being disgusting and lazy
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>>98180490
AI stopped making that error a while ago. Could be a case of actual artistic error
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>>98180490
Actually GW said no AI in the creative process, they were very specific about it.
Oh yeah they're extra dishonest because they only took the "no AI" stance for PR & their share holders.

Also, according to reddit it's totally not AI and it's just the bottom of the grip... Actually it's just an artistic error. You know people who work in art will tell you there are worse slip ups. But it's not AI, impossible. Unthinkable. :^)
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>>98180486
no, this won't happen at all
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>>98180486
Best that will happen is dark mech & vashtorr faction.
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>>98180354
Literally this edition. We are on armageddon nigga.
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>>98180490
Why remake mk4 at all? It doesnt seem popular at all. It really only looks good on Blood Angels.

Surely mk 5 or mk7 for Scouring would have been mich bigger sellers.
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I hope we get Legion of the Damned vs Ork Freebootas for Killteam.
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>>98180520
>[Mk4] doesnt seem popular at all.
>Is the most popular heresy mark
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>>98180524
>pirates vs ghosts
Sick
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>>98180486
“Daemons will be squatted this time” quit with your AoS brand uniformity cope you raging faggot.
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>>98180479
>for 99% of the use of "post model"
Don't lie. Over 50% of use cases are retards just weaponising it. The mutant would cry "nomodels" 24/7 and shitposters commonly abuse the phrase.
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>>98180484
It's only a translation error on my part. In my language we usually call those inks instead of washes.
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No squig rider?
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>>98180486
>we made 6 new demon detachments because they are going to be squatted
>we gave PR to demons because they are going to be squatted
>we specifically said they wont be squatted because they are going to be squatted

You faggots are so fucking annoying. You literally bought into the hive mind retardery a year ago and even when proven wrong you cannot rewrite your programming.
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>>98180517
i have good taste. it is gw that somehow reads my mind and turns every army i play into garbage or have no options to get anything new. that and i can't justify playing a 6th army at this point. Knights, GSC, IG, DW, IA, GK, RG and Tau are enough for me
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>>98180539
99% is over 50%, anon.
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>>98180496
>GW are fucking liars, lying to shareholders and are using AI
>>98180544
>GW said they won't be squatted so they won't because they're not liars
I don't know what to beleive!!
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>>98180543
>No squig rider?
Squig riiiiiiiideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
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>>98180555
>>GW are fucking liars, lying to shareholders and are using AI
Read again
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>>98180528
>>Is the most popular heresy mark
that's because everyone loves the primaris face grills
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>>98180556
Ork Beast Snagga/Squighog list but it's all Mr. Ts
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>>98180557
>Also, according to reddit it's totally not AI and it's just the bottom of the grip... Actually it's just an artistic error. You know people who work in art will tell you there are worse slip ups. But it's not AI, impossible. Unthinkable. :^)
Clearly this anon is implying it is AI, ergo lying to shareholder since they denounced it in reports to them
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Incredibly steady hands on
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>>98180560
They are the only thing good about mkX
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>>98180560
Your bait aside, it was the most popular before primaris were a thing by virtue of being the cleanest/simplest of them all. Every other heresy mark has something special about it that will mean people can hate it.
Some people hate the beakie helmet
Some people like the extra studs and cables of mk5
Some people hate how bulky mk3 is
Some people hate the archaic/segmented look of mk2

Mk4 is just a fancier mk7
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>>98180564
They denounced AI in the creative process. Promotional material is not the creative process.
You need to work on your reading. Pronto.

>>98180562
Beautiful
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>>98180571
>just a fancier mk7
With a much better helmet too
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>>98180576
Nigger you didn't mention the distinction between 'promotional vs creative' and there was no information of where that cropped pic is from or how it was used. Get off your autstic rule lawyer horse on how youre technically correct because another anon, me, couldn't read your mind to fgure out what you meant
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>>98180571
>Some people hate the beakie helmet
Fricckin. Who? What are the reasons to dislike beakies.
>Some people hate how bulky mk3 is
These days people company more abaut that dogshit Helmet redesign MK3 got
And I dislike Primaris helmets because it was Obvious attempt from GW to make Space Marines into more Conventional (and advertiser friendly) SciFi guys.
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Good morning /40kg/
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Does anyone here use a headset with magnifying lenses to paint? The one ive got has fallen apart and im after something better
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>>98180591
>fricckin who?
Me. I wasn't a huge fan of the helmet as a kid, still a bit iffy about it but it grew on me a bit.

>primaris helmet is just friendly mk7
Yup. Mkx is mk8 2, the shittier reboot of mk8
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I can do something on this kneepad. Should I? If so, what?
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>>98180581
>Nigger you didn't mention the distinction between 'promotional vs creative
Let's see what I said
>Actually GW said no AI in the creative process, they were very specific about it.
>no AI in the creative process
It's right there. Still not gonna learn how to read?
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>>98180618
Skull with fangs
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>>98180618
Big dick
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>>98180618
whattabout an insult or threat in the dark tongue?
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>>98180618
Yellow and Blue checkers
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>>98180486
>Daemon codex will be squatted this edition
Not this shit again...
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>>98180636
U R... FASE?
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>>98180647
it's phonetics
you'll notice there's no C letter
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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
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>>98180618
Luna wolf symbol
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>>98180654
>ur face
I am retarded
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>>98180662
The many armed emperor protects, daemon!
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>Playing DoW2
>read the snippets of fluff in the wargear description
>"this weapon was made in honor of X"
>"they hate it"
Dark Angels hope the Blood Ravens gets "absoluted" (refering to what happened to caliban)
Space Wolves told the BR to fuck off twice because of their craftsmanship being seen as either an insult or "a trinket"
Lysander, when presented with a thunder hammer named in his honor, replied
>Blood Ravens? Who?

The BR aren't thieves, they are the kid who's trying to make friends and keep getting told to fuck off
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>>98180689
I love them, they genuinely are hated by everyone, have their history redacted, and are autistic psychic nerds who love collecting books. Its perfect, it kind of reminds me of the thousand sons from the horus heresy but they turned traitor.
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>>98180689
I always saw the relics as just fun references to the other chapters in the setting, not to be taken fully seriously.
But man, DoW2 is such an amazing showing of the 40k setting, I consider it the perfect 40k game.
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>>98180695
I hate the "BR are TS" theory but the parralels are not unfounded indeed.
They are not hated by everyone, they got good relations with crimson fists and salamanders, to name a few, I believe
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>>98180701
Shame it's not a very good RTS
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>>98180703
>hate the "BR are TS" theory
you mean retconned fact, but yes I can see why people dont like the idea of loyalist traitor geneseed chapters
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>TQ
Erebus, I like that he's just comically evil
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>>98180706
It's actually very good, it just completely removes the macro element which some people don't have a preference for. DoW II was kind of ahead of its time. It came out a time when the RTS genre was big enough that success was determined by being as close to starcraft as possible (like dawn of war 1). If DoW III was in the vein of DoW II it would have been far more successful. Unfortunately, the idea of removing base building was not seen as innovative to focus on the actual crunch of RTS combat. It was instead seen as lazy and shallow, and people didn't really give it a chance.

t. played in competitive 3s, was a tourneyfag for it etc
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>>98180701
This
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>>98180706
Fuck off, campaign is fantastic, and just because multiplayer removed most of the base building like in 1 doesn't mean it's not a good rts
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>>98180716
>Unfortunately, the idea of removing base building was not seen as innovative to focus on the actual crunch of RTS combat
It was never going to be seen as especially innovative in that respect, releasing 9 years after Shogun: Total War, even if it did actually do interesting things micro-wise.
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>>98180707
> I can see why people dont like the idea of loyalist traitor geneseed chapters
I like that, it's just the BR being TS doesn't make them more interesting.

>>98180706
>>98180716
DoW2 campaigns are great
basic MP gameplay I prefer DoW1

DoW3 is a mess
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>>98180716
>It's actually very good,
It's diet Company of Heroes
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>>98180727
>releasing 9 years after Shogun: Total War
If you compare DoW II to Shogun... I genuinelly doubt you even play video games, but thats more /v/ talk than here. Shogun didn't remove base building, its an entirely different way of handling it. that was done tons of times in the 90s. In fact, the total war style RTS was far more common until sid myers, warcraft: orcs and goblins and command and conquer all come out in the mid 90s as the new hotness.
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>>98180716
I enjoy both 1 and 2 for different reasons, they're so different its kinda hard to compare them and say one is particularly better than the other. I enjoyed the fallback mechanic and its crazy to me that no squad based rts has bothered to use it. Heroes were fun and gave you some fun build variety, the side bar army abilities were also cool. Weakest aspect I think was probably the game modes, ping ponging around the map playing whack a mole with requisition points because you couldnt fortify them felt a bit unfun. Lower scale is fine but some of the unit caps felt a little boring. Campaigns were stellar though, I've always considered doing a freebooterz army based on Bluddflag's colour scheme in retribution with the stripy pantaloons lol
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>>98180738
The Dow II campaigns are very fun, and it is also kind of silly that you can make your heroes incredibly OP with RPG items so that they can solo the entire mission
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>>98180733
which is good, yes. correct. CoH and DoW II are both good. Also DoW I is also diet CoH because it has the same requisition control point gameplay.
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>>98180736
>If you compare DoW II to Shogun... I genuinelly doubt you even play video games, but thats more /v/ talk than here.
People deciding the narrative on video games seldom do, and DoW II very much got immortalised as selling out the RTS audience.

>>98180733
The development timeline went the other way around; DoW I and II served as the testbed for ideas that were refined by CoH I and II.
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>>98180740
I enjoyed DoW 2 way more than 1, because of its hybrid RPG nature.
If you enjoy base building and the typical dow1 multiplayer gameplay, part 2 is not for you. But it is an excellent single player game.
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I wanted to talk about the blood ravens, not the gameplay :C
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>>98180772
sorry chudster, carry on
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>>98180730
>I like that, it's just the BR being TS doesn't make them more interesting.

that is subjective though. I'm biased because I'm a tsons fag. I think out of any of the chapters tsons are the most likely to have a large chunk of loyalists because they were the least supportive of horus and chaos. They basically never betrayed the imperium and just got sort of forced into tzeentchian slavery. Luna Wolves, Death Guard, EC, World Eaters all super embraced their chaotic ways and the Night Lords were already psychotic baby eaters to begin with.
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>>98180604
Off to show the Burrowses that it was the Bolgers who were made in the Valar's image
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>>98180791
>that is subjective
I mean how does it affect the blood ravens in 40k? What changes if they are TS?
All traitor legions had loyalist elements, even if huge parts of these were purged
> They basically never betrayed the imperium and just got sort of forced into tzeentchian slavery.
You did say you were biased :^)
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>>98180591
>Who?
I'm one of them. Cone faces just look stupid.
I know it's inspired by the bascinet helmet and those look dumb to me as well.
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>>98180797
I like tsons as tragic heroes (as heroic as imperials can be anyway). They did their best with the what they were given, which was dogshit. The flesh change and being psykers made everyone hate them. Magnus made a deal with tzeentch to temporarily halt the flesh change, which tzeentch probably curse them with because the primarchs were made somehow using demonic knowledge anyway. Loyalist elements that just continue to suffer for the sins of the father (the emperor and russ both fucking up with magnus in different ways) and have to hide their past IS interesting to me. Quietly managing their chaos spawn and terrified of showing the true level of occult knowledge they have is engaging. And then ultimately falling to chaos in Dow II which is also pretty good because it shows how they came to close to chaos and it corrupted them from within, showing that they are repeating the same mistakes despite trying their best.

They are also similar to the tsons in that their home planet was pretty well run and taken care of and ended tragically, which again I like. It's almost like a microcosm of the themes of 40k as a whole. The secrecy and fanaticism of the imperium causes the best of them to be wasted or seen as enemies. Psychic potential is quite literally both the hope and doom of humanity, the best guard against demons and yet also the source of vulnerability to them. Because they tried to know their curse, to understand it and make the best of it they suffer.
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>>98180817
stop trying to make blood ravens sound cool, chud its working
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>>98180543
Is that a pink ork?
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>>98180817
i dont give a fuck about the horus heresy I wish those books were never made, added nothing of substance and took away from the identity of characters and factions in 40k
I dont give a fuck about some tragic backstory I want my space wizards, my hellraiser cenobites, my stinky marines, my crayon eating barbarians
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>>98180543
>pale orcs
based
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>>98180836
they aren't mutually exclusive, you still have the actual tsons for your evil space wizards
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>>98180844
idk why I replied to you I was more just venting to the void
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>>98180817
> have to hide their past
They don't, they're very much on a quest to find out who they are. Not even the Great Father knew.
Having a corrupted chapter master is interesting, but it's not because they are TS.

I don't mean to be a cunt but it sounds like to me that you like BR being TS because you like TS in the first place.

Everything you describe is good and interesting, but it misses the point. BR have all of this regardless of their origins, them being TS doesn't add anything, it's just "more of the same".

Not sure if that makes sense
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>>98180321
>TQ
Rogal Dorn
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>>98180849
I see where you are coming from, I'm generally against primarchs and 30k shit being in 40k. It just clicks in my head in the right way. I also don't think BR being tsons 'takes away' anything from them while adding a bit of interesting back story for why they are the way they are.
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>>98180849
>them being TS doesn't add anything

It's an in universe reason for why they have a ton of psykers and are naturally susceptible to chaos corruption. And specifically have the power of foresight, which was of a particular focus for tsons (Ahriman was the head of the Corvidae, whose symbol is also worked into the main tsons symbol). And red.
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I like orks :D
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>>98180862
Amen, I do think a chapter being descending from loyalist TS is very fun and interesting, with a lot of stories of shame/self-censure and tragic challenges of overcoming flaws/curses. Yes I love Blood Angels too.

Have a proto rubric I found online.
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>>98180869
aren't there like 2 or 3 other legions with plenty of psykers, and guys whose gimmick is visions of the future regardless of the thousand sons?

if there can be guys whose geneseed fucked up enough for them to get bladed forearms why can't it independently fuck up to give a closer tie to the warp?
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>>98180869
That's really my "issue" with it. It makes sense.
Why do they have lots of psykers? Because they are TS. There could have been a thousand other reasons or stories, but no, it's just they are TS.
Why are they red? TS.
How can a chapter master be corrupted? It's just like in the heresy.

I just go "oh, okay."

And that's it. Yeah, it's exactly as expected. I mean the signs were there I suppose. Cool. That's one less loose end.
I understand the appeal, but it's not my cup of tea.
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>>98180321
>tq
Angron
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>>98180881
Yes, but foresight was a specialty of the tsons. Generally its one of the main disciplines of psychic powers across all of 40k. Word Bearers specialize in demonic summoning and Death Guard repressed their psychic powers as much as possible. Probably the most common is Biomancy, which is where shooting lightning out of your hands comes from.
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no one is more tragic than angels penitent.
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Is there any demand for metal aspect warriors? I have just about all of them minus swooping hawks and warpspiders. Looking to get rid of my bulk.
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Why are nu40k fans all "HECKIN' I NEEEEED TO KNOOOOOWWW EVERY LORE MYSTERY FOR MY WARHAMMERS 42,000 AGE OF GUILLIMAN? IS THAT A HECKIN' HERESY THROWBACK REFERENCE IN MY NEW RELEASE???"

Seriously why are so many of you subnormal freaks to whom the deliberate myth and uncertainty is something to be torn away and replaced with £50-100 plastic characters doing WWF with each other?
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>>98180889
>"Hmmm, I need a name for my big brute with a terrible anger problem
>*hits pipe*
>"Ah! I have it!"
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>>98180897
>plastic characters doing WWF with each other?
does this really need to be explained?
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>>98180898
iron hands are still worse.
>primarch iron hands with iron hands on his ship iron hands leading the iron hands who all have iron hands
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>>98180903
>who wants to cut off his iron hands
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>>98180387
>I hate owning models because it helps line corporate pockets
probably the biggest nomodels to ever nomodels in this general lol.
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>>98180898
absolute literature
>konrad curze is cursed with visions
>perturabo is perturbed
>magnus is big
>ferrus manus means iron hand
>corvus corax means raven raven
>jagatai khan is just taken straight from chagatai khan
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>>98180911
Just goes to show that 40k was always a silly setting made to have fun battles in, its fun to think about the setting and talk about the backstories and characters but people do take it too far. Horus Heresy is utter slop made for infants that actively made the setting worse
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>>98180918
I think it's easily possible to have both
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Is this out-of-context anonymous quote right?
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>>98180911
>Sanguinius has a legacy of vampires
>Lion El'jonson is named after a secretly-gay poet
>Horus Heresy was a heretic
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>>98180929
yeah, but I don't play space marines so idc
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>>98180918
Horus heresy is actually awesome if you look past the primarchs.
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>>98180897
because nu-fans love marvelsloppa.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98180934
it's easier to be in 40k and ignore the marines than it is to be in 30k and ignore the primarchs
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>>98180933
idc that ydc
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>>98180928
When you have horus heresy lore infecting not only the lore but also the gameplay of 40k I dont think thats true at all. Take the recent Emperors Children release for example. Very one dimensional focus on melee combat and their duelling obsession from HH and nothing really for their stimulant and drug use in combat or even much support for noise marines and sonic weaponry despite noise marines being the fucking cover art for the codex
I wouldnt mind HH if it stayed in its own lane but its clear it influences how even GW views human factions in 40k too
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>>98180950
What would happen is someone would be to snort TS dust?
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>>98180950
imagine being the kind of person who finds this entertaining or cool or funny
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>>98180949
That's just an emperor's children problem, everyone knows they have the most anaemic army
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>>98180520
>mk7 in Horus heresy
I hope this never happens
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>>98180955
They were less one dimensional before horus heresy came though thats my point
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>>98180591
You they just have dumb beaks.
MK8/7 are the best looking armors, then power gap MK6.
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>>98180957
Scouring expansion soon.
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>>98180746
No, DoW1 is the original, CoH is just shitting up it's formula.
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>>98180952
>light dose: you get glimpses of the rubric marine's memories
>medium dose: you get to speak with the rubric marine in your mind
>heavy dose: you relive the rubric marine's life as if you were him
>overdose: the rubric marine possesses you and his sorcerer controls you
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Reminder that the Space Marine armour marks started with mk6, and then Jes Goodwin had a week in the early 90s where he backfilled mk1 to mk5 with single metal models for the "mk6" to make sense.

I hate nuHH's obsession faux grog with it and what that has then inflicted on the pliable fanbase.
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>>98180949
It could always be worse: GW could do their own thing and make up a new unit like they did with eightbound.
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>>98180972
>t.
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>>98180972
I think you're mad at misconceptions entirely of your own.
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>>98180977
I dont really envy them with Khornate stuff desu, how much can you realistically add? Stretching out Khorne berserkers to a full faction must be kinda hard
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>>98180949
>Very one dimensional focus on melee combat and their duelling obsession from HH
no?
they have one unit of noise marines, one unit of normal marines from jes's old model and sketch, and one unit of elite marines that expands on lucius and the artwork from adrian smith
with a multibuild chaos lord, and a hq specific for noise marines

that's not some monodimensional HH focus, it's just the least they could do
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F
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>>98180987
Im talking about rules anon, pretty much every detachment along with the army rule is centered around melee combat
Fulgrim is Melee, Lucius is melee, the Lord Exultant is used for melee with Infractors
only character that helps ranged is the Lord Kakophonist and while hes fun with noise marines there isnt much rules support outside of the leader bonus
then you have to remember that half the chaos range got dropped for the EC release. You can take maulerfiends but not forgefiends for some reason? No predator? Just odd choices all around
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>>98180972
yeah, and they all look awesome. what’s your point?
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>>98180982
Honestly it's just more reason for the cult legions to be supplement books for CSM instead of their own armies, at least until they have enough unique stuff to justify a codex.
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>Aircraft movement is now "-"
What
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>looking at White Dwarf 129 because of >>98180972

vgghhh my ancestors
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>>98180897
Because normalfags love being told stories, while autists love creating/exploring.
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>>98181016
just because you're a sperg it doesn't mean you're exploring shit when you're being told a story.
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>>98180898
>>98180911
To be fair that's how names work most of the time. At best you add misconstructions, language evolution and humor, but most names are very fucking basic.

Etymology is fun
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>>98180957
I wish it happened but looking at how lazy numk4 is I changed my mind

>>98180972
>jes goodwin
And john blanche. The older marks were created mostly for chaos marines.
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>>98181008
They don't actually move. They deploy, shoot, and then leave at the end of the opponent's turn.
Their rules are very weird now too. Like bomb abilities flat out don't work and didn't get erratad. And they don't have towering or true line of sight so they can't shoot over templates without toeing into them.
Really feels like an afterthought.
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>>98181021
>t. sperging when being told a story
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>>98180954
Who shat in your coffee? It's a mild joke man
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>>98180078
>>98180071
well that fucking sucks. what's the deal with not keeping regular stock of their starter sets?

also general question: how different is KT compared to regualr 40k? im expecting them to be vastly different, but KT seems like a cost effective way to get started with the game
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>>98180952
If the GK can have grenades made of the emperor's tears and other residues, we can have a relic/wargear that is weaponized rubric dust
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>>98181034
wasn't a story
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>>98180897
>Seriously why are so many of you subnormal freaks to whom the deliberate myth and uncertainty is something to be torn away
Because that's just how human psychology works.
The brain actively hates it when there is no "answer" or "conclusion" to a given thing. This includes mysteries as well. Your mind basically wastes energy uselessly on it in the back of your mind because the "picture" isn't complete. So it tries to come up with something to fill the gaps.
For some people this uncertainty is unbearable so they want 100% set in stone concrete facts about it. Like take the 2 missing primarchs and legions.
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>>98181023
You don't need to be fair and this isn't realistic.
There is no sensible, real world explanation for a guy being given the name "Angron" (the explanation GW gives is that it means "child of the mountain" which is an obviously ridiculous coincidence).

It is simply silly writing from the days when 40k took itself less seriously, days I think should return at least in part (as much as I like gritty midhammer).
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>>98181048
I thought it was with how you were sperging.
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>>98181042
KT rules have literally nothing to do with 40k Rules. You use the same miniatures, and can repurpose terrain, but rule wise it is not related at all
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>>98181055
There's also pompous authors who want to get rid of the mystery in a setting to put their name on it.
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>>98181062
I disagree. While it's true that the name was a simple funny haha when it came to be, there is enough room to create what the name needs to make sense.

You can have a silly joke name from the perspective of the audience AND have it make complete sense in universe AND it not being a joke in universe.
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>>98180944
Not really, primarchs are really not the big topic in 30k. People always treat it like it's a soap opera with some super heroes, but that's like 10% of the books. Some of the 60+ novels barely even mention a primarchs. Often there is 1-2 chapters worth of primarch stuff, with the rest of the book being normal humans and marines doing stuff.
It's not the fault of the 30k setting that people of Reddit and /tg/ limit a 300 page book to a single fight scene between primarchs and ignore the rest.
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>>98181055
Nta but that doesn't adress the whole issue.
When presented with a mystery, many people will revel in it, writing stories or keeping the mystery so any story can be written.

We like blanks to be filled, sure, but there's a world of difference between wanting someone to fill the blanks for you and wanting to fill the blank.
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>>98181081
>but that's like 10% of the books
you're being incredibly disingenuous
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>>98180994
And how is this related to HH or EC in 30k?
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>>98181088
Because the rules are designed fully around the melee aspect that EC had in the heresy rather than the more interesting things they get up to in 40k
do I really need to spoonfeed you every time its not that hard to understand
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>>98181071
what is that? old Forge World
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>>98181066
that wasn't even the suggested correlation
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>>98181087
I'm not. There are books that have more primarch action, like unremembered empire for example. And there are books like Deliverance lost, or nemesis with like one little dialogue between primarchs and the rest is other stuff. Some books do not involve primarchs at all, like battle for the abyss or the outcast dead.
Or all the books about retarded perpetuals.. disgusting in its own right, but it's chapters upon chapters of John grammaricus doing stuff, with no primarchs involved.
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>>98180897
In terms of narrative and setting, it becomes a dead end with nothing to build from.
This would have been fine if 40k ended 20 years ago, or they stopped writing anything about it.
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>>98180929
Yes that anon is 100% right. HH should feel as different and alien to 40k as 40k is to us. Ancient Egypt just Egypt 8,000 years ago and consider how different they were, as one of the richest and most technoloigcally developed kingdom compared to the best cities today.
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>>98181086
They do revel in it, it is true.
But you notice how you said the mystery is kept so any story can be written?
That's already acknowledging that even if people like the mystery, they will still go out of their way to somehow explain to themselves. Nothing wrong with this, but it just proves my point about how the human mind just doesn't like it when there's "gaps" in its knowledge.
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>>98180929
I prefered when the "imperial truth" was the "imperial cult" and the emperor wasn't a fedora tipping self-insert.
Also yes modern 40k completely misses the point because (americanized) faggots want heroes they agree with.

Marines went from psychotic terror troops presented as heroic knights to straight up heroic knights that pretend to be psychotic terror troops.
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Picked the Armageddon box mostly because of orks but I guess I now also serve BigE and have a little primaris force on the side. Don't plan to get much more, at least not until I'll decide on which chapter to paint them, but I have a question for space marines players: from the starter point that the Armageddon box is, which other models would be good addictions to a small (~1500 points) primaris force?
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>>98181130
No because *some* people will fill it themselves. Some people keep it open. Some people keep it open to fill it.

Sorry anon, I didn't go through every single reasons why mystery is good, I focused on why some people don't like mystery since they see it as a dopamine dispenser.
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>>98181134
Same thing happened to Spartans in Halo and the humans getting all their moral greyness washed away over time. Corporate says people want heroes.
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Where are the xenos faction packs GW? Give them to me! Give them to me now!
I am ready to be extremely angry about something today and I'm saving it for you!
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>>98180387
>who play arts and crafts with minis
Painting plastic toy miniatures is the only decent part of this game.
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ork bros, what units are we running in 11e?
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>>98181143
But they were always
>muh heroic savior of the galaxy
It was then after they tried adding moral ambiguity like kidnapping children rather than cyborgs without defined origins besides planet of origin.
>On Reach, a secret military project to create cyborg super-soldiers takes on newfound importance. The soldiers of the SPARTAN-II project rack up an impressive record against the Covenant in test deployments, but there are too few of them to turn the tide of the war.
>Existing SPARTAN-II soldiers are recalled to Reach for further augmentation. The plan: board a Covenant vessel with the improved SPARTAN-IIs and learn the location of the Covenant home world. Two days before the mission begins, Covenant forces strike Reach and annihilate the colony. The Covenant are now on Earth’s doorstep. One ship, the Pillar of Autumn, escapes with the last SPARTAN-II and makes a blind jump into deep space, hoping to lead the Covenant away from Earth.
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>>98181154
all the trucks, bikes, cars, copters since Iam a speed freek
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>>98181134
It is your job as a emancipated customer to pick the things you like. Sure,the majority of normies and Reddit subhumans likes to jerk off to ultramarines and salamanders, but who stops you to play flesh tearers or marine malevolent? Or any of the other chapters that are not pure noble and "good" There are still more than enough of them.
Just accept that GW panders to the masses, and do your own grim dark headcanon for /yourdudes/. I really don't get the complaints about corporate behaviour. It's obvious what they do. But do you need to follow along? Do you need to interact with those "people"? Do you need validation by marines malevolent being the cover boys or whatever overpriced new book they release?
Just become an adult and use whatever you enjoy within 40k, and ignore the rest and I promise you, your hobby experience will be excellent. Or just keep complaining.
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>>98181155
What about the part where the Cyborgs were likely abducted ancient aliens? Reread that section. Did they ever say HUMAN Cyborgs? CE had huge moral ambiguity where the Cyborgs were so capable of Rampancy that there's anti-Spartan death squads prepared incase they go Rampant. Even the UNCS treated them as hardware and called them by their armor designation rather than names.
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>>98181143
>urm, why is the fictional character, like, not perfect? That's icky
>You play space fascists? You must like them (because I only play what I 100% agree with)
>You kill people in video games? WTF you psycho
It's the same logic. I despise these retards and I wish they'd just go away. I wish they'd stop making fiction less interesting because they are obsessed with the real world as they derive their entire value from their social status which exists through performative virtue.
Why can't they just let these things be? Why do they have to come into other people's circles and then ruin it? Because the guy in charge is a greedy faggot who's gonna cater to these useless retards?

Fuck this shit man. Fuck these stupid ass people.
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>>98181139
sternguard for the librarian to lead. repulsor executioner or gladiator lancer for big gun.
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>>98181160
>You pick what you like from the store
That's great but when there's nothing I like left to pick from the store?

You missed the point, by a mile.
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>>98181163
>You kill people in video games? WTF you psycho
fighting your imagination there, when has anyone ever said something like that
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>>98181161
Aliens exist for humans to have sex with. Making aliens into cyborgs with sexual implants for better pleasuring is nothing wrong. It helps them fulfill their purpose.

Humanity Fuck Yeah is boring. Humanity Fucks You is far more interesting. Imagine a setting where humanity created all the aliens and disappeared, only to return because the fruit they planted is now ripe and they're hunting aliens to fuck them. Or settings where everything is evolved to fuck humans and humans must fight to survive with their virginities intact. Much more engaging.
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>>98181140
You're just arguing semantics here.
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>>98181143
I thought it was an intentional irony. Spartans were created through atrocious means to terrorize dissenters in the colonies, but thanks to the Covenant they get to be remembered as humanity's greatest heroes.
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>>98181170
>Imagine a setting where humanity created all the aliens and disappeared, only to return because the fruit they planted is now ripe and they're hunting aliens to fuck them.
Congrats, you just turned humanity into the Dark Eldar.
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>>98181171
No. People will not go out of their way to somehow explain it to themselves.

That's not how it works. It's not universal. That's not semantics in the slightest, your point simply isn't correct.
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Hellblaster status?
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>>98181182
Silly anon, Dark Eldar do non-sexual tortures too.
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>>98181170
How many times are you gonna post it?
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>>98181170
>be xenomorph
>sees this facehugged victim about to birth your sibling
>thinking of names
>chestburster comes out
>but the human grabs it and starts shoving his cock into your newborn sibling's mouth
>your sibling starts bleeding but the acid blood just makes their erection harder
>the nutshot blows out the back of it and the human now wants a second facehugger because he's worn out the first chestburster
How can we stop these horrible humans?
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>>98181167
NTA but were you an adult for the moral panic of the late 90s and early 00s? Does the name Jack Thompson ring a bell? Violent video games were a popular societal target dummy for a while there.
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>>98181203
And that just shows how idiotic prejudices can be. Imagine blame mental problems on games, miniatures, rol games... As if people that don't enjoy those things were free of being psycho motherfuckers.
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>>98181170
>Or settings where everything is evolved to fuck humans and humans must fight to survive with their virginities intact.
What happens if they lose their virginity? They lose their magic powers? They get banned from /r9k/? What's the penalty?
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>>98181183
No.
The entire start of this was this guy >>98180897, not you, wondering why normalfags want to tear away mystery.
I gave an answer which is true.

You're now just arguing a completely different point that has nothing to do with it anyway.
This is quite literally the
>"Most of these circles are red."
>"There's a blue one right there, retard!"
Argument that you're making. You are arguing semantics here.

Vitun autistit. Saatana.
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>>98181210
No matter what color you paint your minis, it all comes out grey. Greytide becomes inevitable no matter what colors are splashed onto your minis.
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>>98181212
>I might have said everyone, but I didn't mean everyone, I meant most
>autist baka
The russians will come for you tonight, Perkele-kun
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>>98181230
Please tell me it's attractive female Russians.
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>>98181212
You sure showed him, Juhani. Very cool.
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>>98181158
fuckin based, do you have a photo of your army? i dont have enough shit to run kult of speed unfortunately
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>>98181235
They will have sex with you. That's all I will say.
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>>98181203
I was born in 99 in England, christian moral panic wasnt really a thing over here and my parents didnt mind me playing/watching anything as long as it didnt affect me in some way so I grew up with warhammer, violent videogames and movies etc
sometimes it feels like americans forget that there is an entire world outside of their country and not everyone is affected by the same level of moral malaise that happens there
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Where faction packs
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>>98181209
>>98181241
nta but stupid people are prejudiced and judgmental, so while the violent video game thing might be specific, there are plenty of other ways you have been judged for what you do, say or think.
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>>98181239
Does this mean I will consent?
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>>98181077
>there is enough room to create what the name needs to make sense.
That ship has already sailed unless GW retcons it. If they had said "yeah we called him Angron as a local dialect corruption of a Low Gothic word meaning anger", that would at least make sense.

And if you disagree, don't just look at that one name, look at the broader setting. This is a setting with Elves in Space, Dwarves in Space, Orcs in Space, Egyptians in Space, WW2 in Space, Inquisitors in Space, etc. Taking the thing as a whole too seriously is a fool's errand.
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>>98181160
>but who stops you to play flesh tearers or marine malevolent
ESL go
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>>98181236
Kiitos, Tero.
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>>98181254
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>>98181241
Mate you were the one saying it never happened, and I'm not American either
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Most twinkish skitarii
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>>98181297
>twinkish
>barrel chest and arms/legs the size of ancient trees
Uhhh...
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>>98181297
We don't need your bara faggotry here. Go post it on /aco/, E.
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>>98181241
>born in 99
>"huh that's old"
>remember I was born before 99
FUCK
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>>98181187
>You exist because we allow it and you will suffer because we demand it
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>>98181309
But sex isn't inherently suffering.
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>>98181310
>"Why were we created?"
>"So we can fuck you and blow out your back."
>"Oh my god..."
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>>98181297
Skitarii would be more popular if they looked liked this, where we can clearly see where the implants are and where the humanity was cut off. Right now they look like normal guys wearing goggles in hodes so you miss what they're meant to look like
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>>98181306
27 years old in just over a month
little cousin called me unc last christmas
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Is the Terror on Devlan box a good deal? It doesn't feel like it, since you only get like, the 10 IG scouts and the Red Terror. Sure, 10 starter gaunts but meh. Is it really worth it? Will the Red Terror be ridiculously overpriced when they split this box?
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>>98181310
it is when it involves you
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>>98181316
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>>98181331
I hated those guys, had no ammo and spent the time running around them. They're great for what a super povo tech priest might have. Made from scrap and junk metal. True skitarii should more elite than the elite imperial guard and doing missions that are normally left for astartes.
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>>98181300
yeah that is the joke
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im sick of detailed tactical rocks, im not interested in painting a few dead guys on my base. i just go over it with textured paint now, fuck it off
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anyone here done weathering on a model with black armour? im assuming its a similar process but it gets hidden much easier in black, dont know if its worth using a brighter chipping paint / rust effects
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>>98180571
>Some people hate the beakie helmet
Those "people" have demonstrably and objectively shit taste. Their opinions should be discarded.
>>98180613
https://www.amazon.com/Beileshi-Magnifier-Professional-Interchangeable-Magnifying/dp/B00KAU5FSC
Purchased in 2022. The light died fairly quickly but other than that, it's been fine.
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Received the red corsair combat patrol as a gift and the raider kit is pretty great. To bad its such a bad value that I'd never but it on its own.
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When do you think we'll start getting new combat patrols? The current eldar patrol is pure ass.
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>>98181356
>that I'd never but it
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>>98181203
88 here. Moral Panic was mostly a gringo thing.
My third world country was extremely Catholic and they found things like D&D, Magic the Gathering and wargames in general as a good thing.
You know with the fighting monsters and "math" with all the numbers and reading you had to do. Specially when it only came in English so you had to spend time translating it to Spanish using an English to Spanish dictionary.
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>>98181166
Then leave the store, and play something else retard.
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>>98181364
>tfw me want da poonani
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>>98180591
>Fricckin. Who? What are the reasons to dislike beakies.

Me, I think they look goofy af even with knowing the IRL inspiration. I dislike the legs being two solid pieces as well.
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>>98181310
You fool. Sex is ingrained in us as lust, and lust is desire, and to desire is to suffer.
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>>98181365
It didn't happen everywhere but it did happen somewhere which was the point
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>>98181271
Ok, keep seething about muh noblebright 40k then, instead of changing it in a way you find enjoyable.
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>>98181328
Just look at the prices of similarly sized tyranids.
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>>98181134
>Marines went from psychotic terror troops presented as heroic knights to straight up heroic knights that pretend to be psychotic terror troops.
This, honestly
they used to be the transhuman shock troops of a fascist regime with the aesthetic of a militant religious order
now they're just tacticool and we're expected to think they're the good guys
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>>98181386
>we're expected

Says who?
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>>98181185
will be posted tomorrow as per decalfags promise (trust).
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>>98181386
>they used to be
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>>98181328
>Will the Red Terror be ridiculously overpriced when they split this box?
yea
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>>98180387
It doesn't function that way at all because minis that aren't generic fucking ultramarines are super distinctive so anyone with a real social life would never post photos on 4chan

So the only people who post photos are neckbeards who don't actually play the game and absolute slop losers who only paint their stuff in generic chapter colours with the approved Citadel© 'Eavy Metal™ method and no modifications or kitbashing at all
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>>98181362
Warp spiders and dire avengers aren't terrible. The wraiths are useless though. Eldar just got a new combat patrol anyway so you're fucked. Eat your Corsair slop. Shame too since the one with the wind riders looks real good since theyll be even better.
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So who wins here?
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>>98181413
they’re super distinctive, but its in a sea of other super distinctive models. even if you see a unique color scheme, how would you go about searching for it? for example, purple and yellow is a pretty rare combination for orks, but there’s no way you can track my social media down through these guys because in the end its just a few meganobs
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>>98181134
>Marines went from psychotic terror troops
They were like this only for 1 edition during Rogue Trader and maybe 2nd edition if you want to be generous.
GW then basically retconned it and turned them into heroic knights like 30 years ago.

Marines have been heroic knights for longer than they've been psychotic terror troops.
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>>98181366
>Stop complaining!
I think you got a problem m8, a bit case of faggotitis
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What are you guys working on?
Did some work on the collage. The swift and quick part is almost done, but holy shit is it hard to paint a blanchitsu harlequinn.
Just some touch up everywhere, then the death jester, and the red cloth drape.
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>>98181386
>fascist regime
Imperium has never been fascist.
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>>98181134
I'm with you on this one
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>>98181418
I love corsairs but I already bought the battleforce and the wave serpent in the combat patrol doesn't have falcon parts either. Still considering it but it's not ideal.

The dire avengers are a very old sculpt and they put 10 of them in there to pad the box. They don't look great next to the rest of the range
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What 1st or 2nd founding chapter should I pick for a Firstborn-only 1st Company army? I have Termies, Vanguard Veterans, a few Boxnoughts, plenty of Bikers and enough bits to kitbash fancy Sternguard squads. I was thinking about Raven Guard since they look stupid sexy but basic-bitch Ultramarines would fit a 1st Company army perfectly as well.
Another question is, which squad should get Hammers and Shields - Assault Termies or Vanguard Vets? The other squad will get Claws.
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>>98181438
>They were like this only for 1 edition during Rogue Trader and maybe 2nd edition if you want to be generous.
GW then basically retconned it and turned them into heroic knights like 30 years ago.

Holy retard.
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>>98181436
hi kyle
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>>98181438
Even 3rd and 4th it was like that.
Remember the stories about marine team killing and inquisitor dreading when marines show up to help instead of a proper army.
There is a story about an inquisitor find out some nobles where planning to leave the imperium. It could have been easily solved by killing those noble.
Instead marines show up and kill everyone, fucking up the planets defenses and infrastructure and blaming everyone in the planet for not knowing a couple of nobles where planning to be traitors.
Remember it was just in the planning phase. So the defenses obviously fight back the marines because they have no idea why this team killing bastards where attacking them.
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>>98181445
always has been
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>>98180897
There's a definite line between a good mystery and a bad mystery:
>Good: There is an answer, and you just aren't told it, and with enough thinking you might solve it
>Bad: There never was an answer, and you're intended to just ooh and aah over how mysterious it is
Lazy writers who opt for the latter are no good
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>>98181464
How is it fascist anon?
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>>98181438
Omg such heroism
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>>98181316
Those are servitors thoever
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>>98181466
Core Characteristics Fascist movements and regimes, while varying by region, typically share several fundamental traits:
Extreme Nationalism: The state or nation is viewed as supreme. Individual rights are subordinated to the collective will and survival of the nation.
Dictatorial Control & Militarism: Fascism favors strong, autocratic leaders (such as Il Duce in Italy or the Führer in Germany). It often glorifies military might, physical violence, and constant mobilization for war or crisis management.
Anti-Democracy & Anti-Liberalism: Fascist ideology rejects both liberal democracy (which it views as weak and divisive) and Marxism/Socialism (which it views as a threat to national unity).
Suppression of Dissent: Freedom of speech and the press are eliminated. Opposition is violently repressed, and the state penetrates all aspects of public and private life.
Scapegoating & Purity: Fascist regimes often unify populations by directing societal grievances toward out-groups—such as minority groups, immigrants, or political enemies.

copy paste definition from google. enjoy it.
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>>98181465
That's such a basic and retarded take.
There are good mysteries of which you're not gonna get an answer, let alone a clear one.
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You will never know what happened to the Dwemer.
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>>98181479
They aren’t nationalistic though
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>>98181458
What you described is just tuesday for the Imperium and not even exclusive to marines.
Even inquisitors go that far very often as well.
And that's 1 story out of 2 whole editions. In most stories marines are just hard asses who don't care, not psychotic really.
Which proves my point that marines have been mainly heroic for much longer they've been psychotic terror troops.
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>>98181479
You literally copypasted a AI slop summary.
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>>98181486
NTA but its a sci-fi interstellar galatic empire. I think we can fairly say that devoution, blind loyatly, us vs them aganist mutants and xenos to the galatic empire is the scifi version of nationalism. IRL political defintions ll can fall apart when its descriving systems across different worlds because they're not meant to be used that way
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>>98181419
WarCom, of course, fucked up yet again. Eldar uses 2 detachments so Seer must be 2DP, thank God.
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>>98181486
>They aren’t nationalistic though
it is literally their main feature
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>>98181501
Imperium is a globalist empire with millions of different cultures within it that more often than not very different from one another.
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>>98181503
nta but a lot of people in europe are nationalistic about the european union.
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>>98181499
fasc-anon is just trying to catch on you on a technicality. they are 100% fascist and intentionally designed to be so. the imperium was devised as being a satire of the worst vices of human strong man tribal civilizations, blind religious zealotry, and meatgrinder bureaucracies

anyone trying to pretend thats not the case is just arguing in bad faith. we've had a lot of those since fascism has been making a comeback in earnest the last 10 years
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>>98181484
kagrenac made his entire race achieve apotheosis through his meddling with the Heart of Lorkhan with the sole exception of Yagrum because Yagrums a bitch
It is known
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>>98181505
No, they are not.
Everyone fucking hates the EU because it is a dogshit organization that has outran its actual usefulness and is now only slowly strangling every god damn member nation for the betterment of Germany.
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>>98181509
Fair, you're right anon but sometimes I feel some dumb dumb little zoomys are just confused and think rule lawying technicalities means they're right and can't see the bigger picture or the vibe of things, I personally blame zionists for this, they do love their bullshit word games and technicalities.
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>>98181464
Imperium is feudalist. Not fascist.
Go shitpost elsewhere.
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>>98181516
you vill build roads and buy ze pretzels, seething polack
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>>98181523
Those political systems are not mutually exclusive anon
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>>98180414
Because you run so many tanks, that feels like a Bringers of Flame list to me.
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>>98181509
Not really, the Imperium is incredibly Laissez-faire when it comes to individual people and planets. They dont give a fuck how you run it, or what your culture is, so long as you pay the imperial tithe.
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>>98181509
Which aspect of the imperial government is the most successful
>its facists aspects
>its religious dogma
>its feudal constructs
Different societies across the empire lean more towards one or another, even if all are largely fascist theocratic imperialists.
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>>98181479
>using definitions by people who not only aren’t fascists, but have a hatred of fascism
in a bizzaro universe, the core principles of democracy would be
Rigged Elections
Suppression of Minorities
Mob Rule
Flip Flop Policies
Scapegoats
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>>98181515
B-But muh numidium skin!
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>>98181516
>it's bad so people can't like it
I wish. I really do. But some people are obsessed with "the greater good", also known as "the world would be better if I was in charge".
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>>98181531
I mean now they're not 'incredibly laissez-faire'. You're confusing the idea of laissez-faire with political autonomy. They can decide what political system they want to govern themselves but they MUST worship the emperor, they MUST be fully supportive of the Imperiums political officers, like the arbites, inquisiton, they MUST pay their taxes. Its heavily oppressive despite the political autonomy.
Again ill stress, laissez-faire IS NOT THE SAME AS political autonomy
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>>98181531
So it’s an anarcho-tyrannical tribute state?
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>>98181531
>they don't care how you run it
nta but that's not true. Do certain things and you're getting fucked
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>>98181544
anarcho-tyrannical is a nonsense meme idea spread by cultural girfters not real political theory.
>tribute state
EVERY state (actor) is a tribute state. You cannot have a state without some form of taxation, either in money or manpower. The imperium does the latter with the Tithe for troops, and with supplies. We have no idea how money actually works in the Imperium but theres at least 4 different legal currencies, what their exchange rate is who knows
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>tfw still havent played a 2k game

How embarassing for me
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>>98181563
10th edition played best at 1k, so nothing strange about that.
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Are us xenosbros meant to get our detachment points soon? Im assuming war horde will stay at 3 points so i wont bother looking until tomorrow
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>>98181563
I dont think 2k ever made a 40k game
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>>98181572
def chaos, looks like AoS
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>>98181570
They have produced the only two games i played last year (borderlands 4 and civ 7)
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>>98181572
the wood makes me think AoS, but you never know with GW. Wasn't there rumors of new chaos warriors?
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>>98181028
Yeah, I was wondering how they'd fix bombing abilities and it turns out "They'll completely forget bombers exist and leave them without a special ability" was unfortunately an option.

I have to wonder which will get a rewrite first: Aircraf or the Hidden rule.
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>>98181042
>>98181068
Necromunda has similar rules and completely different models, Kill Team has same models and completely different rules.

Ironic in a way.

And now I'm imagining GW expanding the Necromunda Ash Wastes rules into a 2nd ed. 40k style platoon level game with blast templates, vehicle damage tables, and only about 30 guys on a side.
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Guys am I trippin?
I vaguely remember an Iron Hands (or their successors) story about them and their allies fighting against a common enemy. During the fight, an Iron Hands (or their successor) Dreadnought was downed for good and an allied Apothecary wanted to retrieve gene-seed. To his horror, it turned out that the dreadnought's sarcophagus was full of cables and esoteric machinery but there was no body inside which indicated tech-heresy. Of course he was quickly dispatched by his (now former) allies.
Have I made it up unconsciously or was story like that ever published by GW?
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>>98181592
It's extra weird because in the preview video talking about rules for 11th they mentioned aircraft coming in for either a strafing run OR a bombing run but there's no way to do the latter
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>>98181563
What are 4k 40k games like?
An actual 40k point 40k game is too much.
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>>98181480
But were those mysteries written with an answer in mind?
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>>98181604
I believe that was a short story from Phil Kelly, but I don't recall the title.
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>>98181604
That's from Iron Soul by Phil Kelly
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BLADED COG FUCKED OUT OF A DETACHMENT AGAIN MAKE IT STOOOOOP
I DONT EVEN WANT BROOD BROTHERS BUT ADMECH I JUST WANT SOMETHING THAT SUITS THE FLUFF OF THEM BEING CYBORGS
THEY HAD RULES BEFORE
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>Eldad only got their spotlight detachments
>Aspect Host is 3DP
Is this a fucking joke
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so im just coming back to the game.

can you take multiple detachments in the same list now? is that what the detachment points are all about?
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No detachments have been cut yet, right?
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>war horde the only 3 point detachment
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>>98181544
aka feudalism yes.
The sad part is all the /pol/tards are too afraid to say what they really mean when they're crying
>ffffassssshhhhhh! Fash! Fash!
Because
>totalitarianism
would apply to whatever dumb shit they believe irl and need to have a moral stance on a hobby for children. This is because in their hearts they know propaganda works, that's why they have so much of it.
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>heartband still in
>can still mix in the heartguard covenant with mercenary
>everything else is 1-2DP
Lol, lmao. The leagues are eating good
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>final day only 2 points

Can stack it with something else, maybe the purestrain broodswarm detachment
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>aspect host locked into disruption
It's so fucking dead.
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>pantheon of Woe is only 2DP
Thank god, C'tan needed the help
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>montka purge the foe
Really now. Tau back to tier 0.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fchkklcq/new40k-download-new-xenos-faction-packs-today/
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>>98181606
>>98181592
>>98181028
>>98181008
Oh hey, they actually remember bombers exist. Just not for Space Marines.
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Knowing the local CSM players average IQ I bet there will be some vocal disappointment about Pactbound being revealed as a 3pt detachment tomorrow
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>>98181685
GSC in the bottom left corner! GSC mentioned!
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So they literally just took the most popular detachment and made it 3dp, while making all the others 2dp regardless of power level.

Persecution Prospect is 2dp and its one of the worst detachments in the game.
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eldar are so raped
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>aspect host 3DP
I guess I can't play 1k games now kek
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>>98181719
You think ChatGPT knows that?
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>>98181656
Yeah, you have 3 points in a 2k army.
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>>98181723
Maybe just play a less busted detachment
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>>98181728
Yeah I'm gonna play seer council for my aspect themed army instead, my strike scorpions are sorcerers now
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>>98181685
I haven't touch 10th or 11th.
What the fuck are Detachment Points? Sounds fake and gay
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Is there a tally yet for characters that didn't survive one edition
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>>98181748
I don't know if black library models that are introduced as legends units really count.
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>>98181740
Don't ask me, I don't play this shitty game lmao.
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>>98181740
>I hate the game but I want you to spoonfeed me
Why the fuck do you care?
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>>98181761
You lost.
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>>98181516
>for the betterment of Germany.

Germany literally hates EU the most, because they have fo pay for all the other shitholes, like Romania, Bulgaria and now Ukraine too, to cover for their debt and pay for their pensions.
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>>98181740
>>98181756
Always the bitch ass niggas who have no skin in the game yap yap yap the most
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>>98181516
Spokój tam, Korwin.
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>>98181685
>montka is 3 dp

lel. they made all the grotmas detatchments dogshit so they could be 1dp and then you'll never play them anyway because the only good detatchment is 3dp.

this whole DP thing is retarded.
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>>98181769
I'm playing 4th for the most part, but drifted to other games as 40k got more shrimple
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>>98181765
>Germany literally hates EU the most
Orc melty lmao.
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>>98181715
Other than Host which I'm fine leaving behind after being the dominant force for an entire edition, we're EATING GOOD HELL YEAH.
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>>98181775
They just picked the top tournament performing detachments for each faction and made them 3DP so they don't have to deal with the headache of them getting buffed by new 1DP combos.
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>>98181748
How come this nigger Brooks keeps getting models for his OCs? How many cocks is he sucking?
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>>98181781
Did they ask real europeans or just the bureaucrats and immigrants on welfare
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>>98181790
He still melty lol, lmao even. I accept your concession, orc.
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>>98181788
>Brooks
Imagine getting to write for the Warhammer 40k setting and your first concern is
>How can I make this about gays and trannoids
UTTERLY GRIM!
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>>98181748
what do you mean, he has rules and is playable in both 10th and 11th edition.
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>>98181788
First Black Hawk, then the Lion, then Lelith, and soon his Alpha Legion OC. How many models does one man need?
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>>98181809
The Lion and Lelith are not his characters, you faggot.
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>>98181722
It's go warhost or play clowns.
Aspects? What's that?
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Oh this edition is FUCKED
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>>98181685
Purestrain Swarm + Biosanctic looking juuuicy.
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>>98181786
people cynically guessed that's how it would be and that's what they did. so fucking disappointing.

and now that GW is paying tournaments to "play the official GW way", that's all DP is going to be balanced around.

>2dp detachment wins tournament
>next dataslate it cost 3dp
it's going to be a fucking nightmare.
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>>98181811
They are now. GW gave them to him. Brook'd
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>>98181685
Great. Now where are the detachments? What’s changed?
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>>98181797
Wait what is an orc? The arabs? africans? or something else that is not relevant?
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So uh... Did they just forget to add keywords to all the old Detachments to prevent duplicate buffs? Or is that coming in the MFM now for some reason?
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>>98181837
russians. they’re the most against the EU because it makes it harder for them to get their claws into the rest of europe.
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>>98181837
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>>98181837
oh, they’re irrelevant alright.
>>98181851
what army would the homophobic dog play?
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>>98181685
>the detachment points aren't even in the fucking faction pack, they're in the warcom article
>the disposition isn't in the pack either, also only on the article
Jesus CHRIST, GW.
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>>98181837
The anti-rapists. They aren't human.
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>>98181856
Probably because are now going to be part of the MFM that gets updated quarterly.
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>>98181856
The whole Detachments rule isn't in the core rulebook either.
The only source on it we have is the preview article.
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>>98181856
>xenos only
Don’t worry bro space marines will have it all in one link
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>pantheon of woe
>2DP
>purge the foe
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>Started in 3E with Chaos Space Marines.
>Play until mid-5e when LGS closed down.
>Get back into 40k in 8th.
>Admech have the ultimate codex.
>Admech and Admech Knights in a single codex.
>Hits all my tastes and desires, coolest book since 3/3.5 Codex Chaos Space Marines.
>9th and onwards, no more Knights built in to Admech.
>Now I have to play Tau if I want to have long ranged shooting combined arms with giant robots.

Man, this blows.
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1dp+2dp is a trap, who cares about minor buff to scout units.
What you want is an access to better disposition. You want purge/recon/assets and you really don't want disruption/take and hold.
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>>98181879
There's a knight detachment that lets you soup in 500pts of admech. It's not good iirc, but it does exist. You can always ally in a single knight in an admech army as well.
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>>98181898
I am aware of that, but I miss the days of having Admech tanks, cavalry and infantry all marching to war with Knights towering above them.
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>>98181838
Its kind of funny. You can take Thundering Wagons with Blitz Brigade and they just about add up to a 2DP detachment in power but you're paying 3DP for the privelege.

Also, they added Hearthband Covenant without removing Hearthband and didn't bother updating the wording on old stratagems/enhancements to match the new edition.
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>>98181907
It's definitely pretty gay that they didn't include at least a couple knight and armiger datasheets for that. I feel you.
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>>98181723
What you do in your own private domicile is not GW's business.

t. playing Black Spear Task Force at 1k (its basically a 2DP detachment anyway, GW just wants to punish deathwatch players as much as humanly possible for not accepting being squatted despite being an entirely legends / no kit army)
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What are the chances of the kill team octarius terrain being rereleased for 11th edition? Is there precedent for it happening?
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>>98181816
>Bought two clown combat patrols
>now serpent's brood+armored warhost looking strong
sick
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>>98181907
You can literally do that. You can bring 1 big knight or 3 armigers in any admech army.

>>98181932
almost NONE, because it doesnt match 11ths terrain rules at all
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>>98181838
it seems like they did. i don't understand the point of the keywords for the new 1dp detachments if there aren't any 2dp detachments with keywords
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>>98181932
GW does MtO every now and then.
I hope they re-released the krieg KT I want the extra bits that isn't in the 40k kit.
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>>98181922
The only thing closer is Orks with bikes, infantry, mechs/bots, Helicopters and the STOMPA - which I still love and adore. But their shooting is so bad and shooting is my favorite way to play.
>>98181939
Only one big or three little. My 8e list had I want to say both my Questoris knights and a mix of infantry, Dog Cav and tanks/Dunestriders. No allies or anything but fun.
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>>98181948
It's probably on the MFM because they want to update it frequently
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>be me quins player
>new quins detachment

Yipee! Lets take a look

>all quins have stealth

OMG Yippie we got something good.

>11th edition rules: Units that have [Stealth] have the benefit of cover
>is stripped by flamers, ignores cover etc
>doesnt even matter because of hidden mechanic

Yikes, I should have known GW wouldn't do anything good for my punished armies.
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>>98181962
I mean, I think its probably still an improvement overall. Just such a tiny one that harlequins are even weaker because half the armies in 40k just got even more lethal and efficient combos.
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So is having the core rules that are unlikely to change in a book and rules that are likely to change connstantly in the app a big brained move?
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>watch a youtube video on soviet WW2 tanks
>KV-2 genuinely looks like it came straight from the astra militarum
looks very ugly but in a cool sort of way
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>>98181960
you'd think the rules update that changes the wording of the rules of the detachments to update them to the new rules of the edition would also include the new keywords of the edition.

>because they want to update it frequently
that's going to be so immersion breaking.

>this detachment has the auxiliaries keyword and can't be taken with the auxiliaries keyword
>"we noticed in the last balance dataslate that these 2 detachments weren't doing so well, so we removed the keywords preventing you from taking them together"
this whole thing seems poorly thought out.
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>>98181879
I can say the same with Witch Hunters and Genestealer cult.
Oh I can play with sisters, assassins, marines, inquisitors and Imperial Guard? Cool!
GSC same thing. hybrids, nids and IG.
Fast forward to modern 40k.
At best you get a token detachment for a single part of what you used to get during 3rd/4th
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>>98180604
chosen half-men
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>>98181894

Whats wrong with Disruption and Take and Hold?
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>>98181971
>astra mili what
No wonder you think that way.
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>>98181974
It really sucks hard. Truly a shame that fun, narrative choices are butchered between tourney abuse and bad rules writers.
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Noob here. Taking a detachment and paying whatever extra points cost for the enhancement for a single character seems like a steep price, is the benefit actually worth it?
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>>98181977
i believe those are the ones you need to do a lot of actions to score points. the other ones are just holding 1 or 2 objectives while blowing up the enemy.
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>>98181955
In Dread Mob my Stompa picked up a Knight every shooting phase. The problem was, it only managed to pick up its points value worth of Knights before dying lmao
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>>98182004
the 3dp detachments are 3dp because they are the best/most tournament popular. the problem with cool/good 1dp detachments is that you have to take dogshit 2dp detachments.
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>>98182002
It's a pretty fluffy detachment but it depends on the cost. 30 points its probably worth it desu. 50 not so much. 80 its a joke.
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>>98182005
Are you the Anon with the silver and gold Stompas? Not enough people run the Stompa, an absolute shame for such a cool model.
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I hereby propose that the new faction packs be collectively referred to as the Blech Rulebook.
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I come today with a revolutionary idea. What if classic boxnoughts became a support character you can attach to basic squads? No need for any complex ability, adding its weapons and wounds would already be valuable for footslogging squads. Would give them a pretty different niche to the bigger redemptor chassis.
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>>98182004

Disruption requires actions. Take and Hold is all about objectives and killing people on objectives, about what you'd expect.

>>98176420
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>>98182018
Nah, I'm a Blorks lurker.
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>>98182008
Hopefully some of the dogshit gets demoted to 1dp with the next MFM. We'll just have to accept the first six months of the edition is a wash.
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>>98182033
I still appreciate you either way, Anon.
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>>98182034
Black Spear Task Force is 3DP. I'm dead.
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>>98182008

Feels like a straight buff for the 2DP detachments since you get an extra Force Disposition/Detachment rule/Enhancements from the 1DP.
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>>98182043
most 2dp detachments aren't 1 super specific buff from being good. I don't think +3 inch detection range while within 12inches of units you don't want to take anyways will make 2dp detachments good.

we'll have to see if Force Dispositions are unbalanced enough that you wouldn't want to take the best detachment because it averages like 20 points less per game on primary.
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>>98181713
I hope that my preferred detachment is 3DP so that I don't have to feel like I'm gimping myself by not taking another (I genuinely don't care about any other detachments)
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What a weird naming conflict with the new gsc detachment.
xenocreed congregation
xenocult masses
What's next?
xenogroup consortium
xenofaith lumpenprole
xenochurch crowds
xenosect populous
xenoschism movement
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>>98182008

The actual problem I have right now is that I want to take two 1DP detachments, but I don't have a third. Black Templar have one for Emperor's Champion which is cool, one for Chaplains which is cool. But the third is for Sword Brethren and seems kinda weak...? Even I'm mistaken about that, I've only got the four from the Combat Patrol so I'd probably have to buy at least two more squads.

If I want to go for C:SM detachments instead...Librarian Conclave is right out obviously. That leaves Fulgurite whatever (speeders), of whose models I have zero and who don't seem very thematic with Black Templars, and Subversion Assets (scouts/phobos), of whose models I have zero and don't seem very thematic with Black Templars.

Probably gonna have to go with the Chaplain detachment and one of the 2DP detachments and leave the poor Champion without his cool toys.
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My issue with all this is that I play a now 2DP detachment and none of the current 1DP detachments fit the playstyle.
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>>98182091

Which one?
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>>98182018
>>98182033
ooh, speaking of stompas, I have one on a sprue, and plan to do it sometime soon. but do you think an orky version of this design would be a waste of a good stompa? the idea is that the tribe is full of militaristic stomboyz and the head will be on the stompas belly, and a big chain axe fasces on the top, with a bunch of white text reading something among the lines of “ya” clumsily painted on. the only thing really holding me back is that it’ll be painted completely black, so I’ll pass up the chance of making a walking mural/war totem.
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>>98182094
Firestorm. I was hoping Orbital Assault became 1DP but we can't have drop pods be viable I guess.
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Green Tide + Taktikal Brigade?
How we feeling Ork bros? That's the only "wombo combo" I can see right now. Otherwise it's maybe More Dakka with something else or just straight Warhorde again unless you have the models to spam some very specific archetype. SAD
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>>98182091
I play chaos so I haven't seen mine yet obviously but I fear this is going to happen to me. There should be a mechanic where you get a little bonus if you don't use all of your DP.
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So you choose a detachment based on what models you like to use, and then your detachment determines your "disposition"? How do you decide your disposition if you have multiple detachments?
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>>98181977
Every primary already wants you to hold objectives.
Holding objectives is hard.

Now purge/assets/recon give you additional vp for doing easier stuff: killing units, making actions, holding quarters.
Meanwhile scoring more on tnh/disrupt usually requires you to hold even more objectives.
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>>98182105
You pick 1.
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>>98181971
My tankfu
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>>98182008
>MontKa 3DP
>Kauyon still 2DP
FUCK YOU Shadowsun, Farsight's wisdom is still sound!
They didn't even change anything from Mont'Ka. In fact all they did is DELETE FUSION BLADES from the Experimental Cadre detachment, which no longer had any connection to the Enclaves anymore!
Fuck you GW aaaaaaa
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>>98182095
Might be cool.
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>>98182068
>because it averages like 20 points less per game on primary
A disposition averaging 20 points less than any other would be so completely unplayable players would actually riot
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>>98181722
>clown meta again
Fuck this gay earth. I fucking hate the clowns so much. Also >Aspect Host Disruption
LOL okay cool. I guess Seer Council/Path of the Outcast is the only option if you still want to use Aspects
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>>98182100
If the dispositions weren't fucking ass I'd be all about Kult of Speed and Rollin' Deff. As it is, I'm tempted to just run Kult with More Dakka and literally have it not affect my army at all just so I can get Purge the Foe.
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>>98182002
>Flash
>A-ah! Savior of the Imperium
>Flash
>A-ah! Living miracle
>Flash
>A-ah! King of the impossible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmrHTdXgK4
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>assimilation swarm
>Meant to represent the wanton consumption of a late stage tyrannic invasion after the enemy has been sent into disarray
>Disposition: priority assets
Narrative edition, my ass
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>>98182180
Yeah, the priority assets are the buffet of corpses
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>>98182095

It could definitely be cool, but unfortunately, I do not recommend covering your model with symbols of 20th-century fascism. Unless you are trying to make a very specific type of friend.
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>>98182180

The "Priority Asset" here is the biomass, anon.
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>>98182185
Of which there are so many at this point that making it an objective is moot
The real objective is to stop whatever defenders are left from impeding the feast
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good morning /40kg/. more work on the thunderhawk.
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>>98182207
Afternoon, fellow GK bro. Thunderhawk is looking good.
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>>98182207
GK or deathwatch thunderhawk. I can't tell the difference. Both have modled shoulderpads that yell at you in all caps with an "I" on it.
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>>98182207
I wonder if there's a roll with these inscriptions, so you can make custom panels
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>>98182199
>Ass swarm lists automatically score 100 points because the entire battlefield is their priority asset
Based GW
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i vaguely recall that space wolves used to have werewolf-esque looking dudes before, or am i misremembering it
there's the wulfen but i remember them looking not horrible like the wulfen models
was looking for a starting point for beastman cultist leader in power armor
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>>98181971
Wait until you look up the Ragnarok
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>>98182100
If Kill Rigs/Battlewagons were cheaper pricewise I could see combining Rollin' Deff with Blitz Brigade just to have a Bigboss with +3" charge range.
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>>98182220
I mean in-game it'll be used as a GK thunderhawk. for /myguys/ fluff its the head inquisitor's custom gun-cutter that has been modified to their specifications. basing it off this old sketch of one.. I think its from Dark Heresy? thus no main gun.

>>98182226
I'm sure you could 3D print one but I've got no clue.
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>>98181934
>big tiddy shadowseer
based
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>>98181971

Watch a video on WW1 tanks and you'll see basically every vehicle model from the earlier editions
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>>98182180
Narratively, every Votann disposition would be Priority Assets because the other factions are sitting on resources that belong to them.
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>>98181979
Fake grog
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>Art of War suggest taking the Sagitaur detachment with the detachment that makes it so Beserks don't need Sagitaurs.

#1 players in the world, everybody.
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>Take Sedative last night.
>Pass out hard.
>Wake up to this.

Well. Guess I'll have 2k in Knights now.
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>>98181934
That a massive isha-blessed size honkers
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>hierophant and harridan aren't legends anymore
is it happening?
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>>98182307
I would assume that they have decided on a policy
>if we sell it, it must have official rules in one system
and obviously it can't have official rules in the horus heresy
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>>98181934
welcome to the masquerade
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>>98182238
The older wulfen models
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>>98181979
Grog or not astra militarum is a terrible name and worse than Imperial Guard or even the older Imperial Army.
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>>98182030
>joining mini dreadnoughts to your squads
This is what the kids call "kino"
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>>98182307
>hierophant
Could it fit on the amount of sprues required for a knight?
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>>98182238
This?
Back when wulfen were a 13th cie exclusive thing?
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I want to play Dark Angels, but I am afraid I will be seen as too "reddit" by this general.
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>>98182435
I play dangles. I'm very autistic and say niggerfaggot a lot. You'll be fine.
Luther model when.
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>>98182435
bruh you're gonna be spending a lot of money on your army, pick whichever one you like the best
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>>98182435
the only marine armies you might get shit for would be ultramarines, space wolves, raptors, and maybe salamanders. everything else is pretty safe. a dude came by the other day showing interest in them and he didn’t get called anything.
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>>98181068
yeah figured. i guess the idea was i could get a small amount of models and play but yeah i figured the rules are completely different
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Was able to find a IW Combar Patrol from a LGS. pretty happy about that find.
i'll likely still get some BT later down the line.
i legit have no idea about rules or what's strong or even how to play at thsi point, but im excited to get back into the hobby
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>>98182435
the real reddit factions are:

>Space Wolves
>Nids
>Leagues of Votann
>Death Guard
>Orks
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Templarbros, how we feeling about Sword Brothers? The new detachment for them was a bit underwhelming, and the data sheet remains nerfed... Dunno if I can justify more than one squad of them, despite being one of my favorites.
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NICE CHARACTER KNUCKLEHEAD
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https://allpoetry.com/poem/8526407-The-Dark-Angel-by-Lionel-Pigot-Johnson
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>>98182544
Sustained Dark Lance precision deleting a character from 36" away for 0CP will always be funny.
New overwatch and transport rules are going to fuck up fragile strats like this hard tho.
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Why is nobody talking about Primaris being added to 30k? Isn't this a huge lore inconsistency?
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>>98182435
I play Dark Angles successors and have never had any issues.
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>>98182577
because it's not happening, stop shilling clickbait
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>>98182618
>because it's not happening, stop shilling clickbait

Anon...
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>>98182577
>>98182642
(you)
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>>98182642
(you)
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>>98182543

Still crafting my first list, but it seems like you can build a seriously brutal unit with 10 sword bros, an Execrator and a Castellan in an Impulsor. Not sure how viable dumping 500 points into a single unit is but damn that thing will shred.
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>>98182100
Haven't been paying attention to dispositions. What makes them so much more important than your army's rules? Are the missions you get with them that strong and/or weak?
Personally I'm excited about green tide/more Dakka. With all Boyz having shootas now it's looking fun throwing 120 Boyz and as many lootas/tankbustas as I can muster into one army.
>>98182033
My nigga. I promise to get some more paint on wazdakka tonight. I've been slacking playing too much Binding of Isaac.
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>>98182307
They never were, anon
They were (and are) the only survivors of the FW purge
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>>98182467
Salamanders are innocent of this crime
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Game needs more spiders
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>>98182467
raptors only get shit from other raptorfags going ERM THAT POUCH IS ON THE WRONG SPOT ON HIS BELT MY EDC LARP CLASS TOLD ME SO
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Anybody got pics of their cool gaming spaces?
Me and the boys are setting up a gameroom/mancave of sorts for our 40k nights
We’ve got a nice felt top gaming table on the way, gonna set up a tv, whiteboard for planning moves and shit, big framed picture of the emperor and horus standing over sanguineous
just lookin for ideas/inspo
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> tryna decide if I should finish up my Aeldari, Tau, or Grey Knights
> have a dream where an old man voice tells me to play Tau
> see on x some tranny saying Tau players are evil/cowards, etc
It's mech time.
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>>98182435
It's a good thing power armor recycles urine otherwise pissing yourself would stain the armor.
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FOMO wore off and canceled my preorder. Gona get some of the orks cheap from ebay in 2 weeks when its flooded.
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>>98182369
eh, i think i might have been off my rocker when i thought about it because the old ones don't look that great either

>>98182418
those still look pretty bad

thanks though
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>>98182642
Will we see an increase of red scorpion players?
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>>98182642
Are they getting worse at painting these models over time? What's going on?
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>>98182754
I've heard (not sure if true) that Armageddon has less preorders than GW expected/wished for and shelves will be stacked, so it sounds like a sound plan. I will also only get the orks.
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>>98182767
Aren't they outscorcing painting? On instagram many painters will post about a new GW product and say
>happy to have painted this / worked on this
so I assume GW realized that they don't need a painting team if they want to save money
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>>98182783
They've been doing that for 18 years
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>>98182761
Doubt it. No Fires of Cyraxus means no newfags will know their glory.
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>>98182642
It's incredible how 30k keeps on proving how fucking retarded primaris are.
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>>98182239
Now that they're pushing Krieg left and right, it'd be a great time for it. But even FW couldn't manage it, so I can't believe James would be more competent.
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>>98182792
yeah can't wait to buy these new mk4 in the same 5 standing and walking poses shared by mk2 and mk3 and mk6 it's so epic dood!!!
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>>98182658
>Impulsor, Transport Section
Change to: ‘This model has a transport capacity of 7 TACTICUS or PHOBOS INFANTRY
models
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>>98182799
Unironically it's a much better system than primaris having two dozen aspect warrior squads that also kill the core that defined the army for 3 decades.
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>>98182799
>Too retarded to swap the lower legs between models
Grim, dark even.
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>it is the year of our lord 2026
>gw releases a new edition
>the base box is 240€ (leviathan was "only" 200€, so another 20% increase lol)
>it does not even come with a cardboard play mat and terrain, genuinely not even asking for plastic
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>>98182642
Why has every single plastic nu-scale HH armor MK been a bit off?
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>>98182801
Won't do that. Tacticus will go inside rhinos.
>>98182822
Not just that. Mixing arms and heads makes a ton of different poses before repeating a single one. These larpers forget the old kits had literally 3 arm and 3 leg poses. Rotating the torso was meaningless. Every dude was in basically the exact same squatting pose.
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>>98182822
yeah I'll chop up the models so I can enjoy the same 5 shitty leg poses on different torso combos!!!
Oh my science I love HH models!!!
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>>98182827
New proportions that make them not look like midgets with oversized heads.
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>>98182833
Anon you do realize primaris also have just 5 bodies, right?
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>>98182834
Yeah instead they have microcephaly when you remember a head is supposed to fit in that tiny helmet and that helmet's walls are thick
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>>98182833
>yeah I'll chop up the models
You don't have to retard-sama, they are separate bits.
>Oh my science I love HH models!!!
Post your models with a timestamp, even unpainted. I want to see 10 differently posed minis of yours.
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>>98182840
That's how space marines are supposed to look.
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>>98182838
Ah, so you're retarded
I'll spell it out for your sub-freezing IQ
there are 5 bodies recycled with different armor patterns across the entire heresy range, only recently did mk2 and 6 and now 4 get a new set of 5 bodies recycled for jump pack units
Every different box of primaris aspect warriors has different poses, compare hellblasters to infernus to intercessors to assault intercessors etc
They have 5 bodies per box, those 5 bodies and poses aren't the same across boxes unlike heresy's model range
>>98182848
>You don't have to retard-sama, they are separate bits.
no they aren't you dumb fucking retard, the old kits were
>Post your models with a timestamp, even unpainted. I want to see 10 differently posed minis of yours.
I don't take requests without a timestamped model pic
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>>98182863
>Every different box of primaris aspect warriors
This is a bad thing.
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>>98182866
(you) tried
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>>98182863
>no they aren't you dumb fucking retard, the old kits were
Lower legs, retard-kami.
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>>98182880
>goalposts shifted
enjoy sculpting the ribbing to fill in the gaps between those lower legs after you spend four times as long trying to find a different shin that won't look retarded with that baked in pose
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I wish the rhino and land raider got replaced and we still managed to keep the old flyers and bikes. Also when are they showing off the new marine and ork range? Are people playing 11th already?
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>>98182900
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>>98182899
>Also when are they showing off the new marine and ork range?
they already did like 6 weeks ago
Are people playing 11th already?
some people are
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>>98182642
Are the MkIV first (new) HH marine kit that comes with a variety of backpacks? There's at least 4 different variants in that pic.
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>>98181394
I hope he left. The general has been really cozy without him.
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>>98182918
Shouldn’t they get more stuff with the codex?
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>>98182898
>>goalposts shifted
Is your brain damaged, boy? I literally said "lower legs" in my first reply >>98182822. It is not my fault you can't read, but it is no wonder you are too stupid for that if you can't even swap two bits.
>enjoy sculpting the ribbing to fill in the gaps between those lower legs after you spend four times as long trying to find a different shin
Mk6 legs are swappable almost seamlessly, I didn't need to sculpt anything since plastic glue filled all the gaps. Truly, skill issue always come with intelligence deficit.
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>>98182923
well except the /pol/ spergs and the /v/ trolls that stop in.. yeah great.
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>>98182784
Well it seems to have reached a point where they're going for cheaper dudes.

>>98182785
Fugg

>>98182795
Plastic Macharius when?
Give me quartermaster & Macharius and I'll be happy
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>>98182930
>I literally said "lower legs" in my first reply
oh then you're just retarded
>Mk6 legs are swappable almost seamlessly, I didn't need to sculpt anything since plastic glue filled all the gaps. Truly, skill issue always come with intelligence deficit.
Still waiting on your timestamped models showing off these seamless leg swaps
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>>98182880
>>98182930
Nta but despite sharing the same 5 poses the models aren't cut the same. What are you swapping the lower legs with exactly?
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>>98182947
>What are you swapping the lower legs with exactly?
I literally glued them to different bodies than shown in the assembly instruction. The angels are slightly different so you can assemble a marine walking down the stairs this way for example.
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Chaos boys are we hyped
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>>98182911
Beautiful, would shoot them in the face with a bolter

>>98182919
Technically mk3 pps have tiny variations, it's not as noticeable as mk4.
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>>98182965
I’m frankly bored. I wish I had the autism to like nids at this point.
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>>98182964
Can I see?
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>>98182964
still waiting on those timestamps, larper
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>>98182985
No because they are painted but I'm fine with assembling a leftover one - will provide pics in ~48 hours.
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>>98183003
>because they are painted
so you're a coward and a larper
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>>98183003
Why can't I see them painted? I just want to see the end result
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>>98183009
Because I won't let myself get doxxed by posting minis painted in my custom chapter colours. I don't mind posting unpainted dudes to show you how the final assembly can look like. If you want to see painted minis, you called the wrong number.
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>>98183033
lmao every time
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>>98183033
You have 48 hours
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>>98183061
You've given him an impossible task
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>>98183061
Sure thing. Mind you they will be missing arms since I like to magnetise my infantry and I ran out of 3x2mm magnets but legs and torsos should be no problem.
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>>98182744
Fallen Knight from DS3 is one of my favorites of all time from the fromsoft team, and they make some bangers.
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>>98183033
worrying about being detected off scheme alone as a marinefag is delusional. there’s more marine models irl than there are marines in 40K. see >>98181436 as an example for a custom color scheme that you can’t find a dox for purely because searching up “purple and yellow orks” doesn’t lead to anything.
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>>98183033
Oh no! You'll be doxxed and exposed of having the horrible opinion of... liking heresy marine models?
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>>98182911
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>>98182543

Is it better to build the squad from the Combat Patrol as Castellan + 4 Bolt Pistol/MC Power Weapon, or 5 Sword Bros with 2 Pyre Pistols, a Plasma Weapon, a Thunder Hammer and dual Lightning Claws?
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>>98182642
These look bad.
I can't put my finger on it but these just look "off" to me.
Maybe it's the shoulders that go weirdly high and above the chest plate? The bolters don't look right either.
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>>98183145
The proportions look off. I think the guy who designed them didn't take the overall marine into account, they took the base mk6 and changed bits one by one and called it a day.

So you end up with a marine that's kinda fat in the legs and arms, with a stumpy head and strangely small powerpack.
They made the bolter handgrip fatter too, which doesn't help. At least people are happy it's close to the previous kit and is bigger. I love mk4 but I ain't getting these.
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>>98183145
>Maybe it's the shoulders that go weirdly high and above the chest plate?
That's every marine ever. Like, that's how shoulders work.
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>>98183170
>primaris
>ultramarines
>ai
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>Mortarion sees Guilliman get possessed by the Emperor and gets pissed
>Sees the door to the actual lair where Nurgle resides start to open up and he gets scared shitless
Why is this?
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>>98183176
Am I retarded? I thought Luna Wolves were white?
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>>98183190
How can you know what luna wolves are and not know they rebranded into the sons of horus?
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>>98183170
fuck off slop poster
>>98183176
stay in your containment general, nomodels
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>>98183190
They were, they turned green when they became the sons of horus
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>>98183170
Call me when AI can sculpt for me
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>>98183190
They are
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>>98182900
I never thought of it as a genecult marine, only as a tzeentchian marine with pink horror traits, but it can work as a gsc marine well if you imagine the rest of its body is atrophied and just piloting the power armor
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>>98183199
Poser.
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Eldarsisters.....its over......this edition is a wash...........
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>>98183176
>>98183199
>>98183207
Have some real art then
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>>98183196
I thought they were always called Luna Wolves. Is this the only Space Marine chapter that had gone through 3 name and color changes?
>White to Green to Black
>Luna Wolves to Sons of Horus to Black Legion
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>>98183223
w0w you posted old art with a google filename you really showed me
keep crying about being doxxed for your super speshul paintjobs lmao
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>>98183204
These comics reek of self insertion and asian insecurity.
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>>98183226
What model do you use?
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>>98183226
He has some serious hangers, god damn
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>>98181685
>war horde is 3 DP
I get that most ork detachments are shit but the newbie-player basic one being the one you can only play in 2k feels wrong
meanwhile 'crons get to have cursed legion at 2DP?
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I will calm down when I am ash on an urn. This is an awful outlook on life. Can't seem to let it go though
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>>98183234
The fuck are you on about you schizo.
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>>98182122
>all they did is DELETE FUSION BLADES from the Experimental Cadre detachment
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>>98183265
Being well adjusted to a sick world isn't a sign of sanity
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>>98183240
Wait, why asian? It's just a bunch of homos (elf & ba)
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>>98180379
Cope anon, you'll get an Alpha Legion codex one day
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>>98183240
She's french canadian so it's even worse
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In 2 weeks with the release of 11th ed and the nerfs to indirect fire (plus rumours that despite these nerfs arty units will still get point increases) what should I take instead of Exorcists?
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>>98183207
paging anon
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>>98183309
>what should I take instead of Exorcists
An additional exorcist
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30k doesn't make any sense to me

>it's warhammer, except without any of the interesting xenos, it's just marines vs marines, with a few people playing admech and guard
why? Does it sell well? 40k already has the issue of being marines vs marines but at least has a healthy mix in general. what attracts people to 30k? are the rules meaningfully better? and if they are, why not just make 40k have those rules?
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>>98183312
>the marine fighting demonic shit
Can I feed it 360° views to make a model?
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>>98183335
Honestly I don't understand why 30k doesn't allow you to play as Xenos aside from Tyranids and Tau and I guess Votann now. Eldar, Orks and Necron were all a thing even then and it's not like they used different equipment then than now.
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>>98183350
necrons werent
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>>98183335
> But the Heresy changed all that. Before it was all colonisation and settlement. This, this was history, this was drama. Betrayal. Struggle. Brother fighting brother across the gulf of the stars. Empires rising and falling, heroes and rebels.
>He’d collected so much that he’d begun to worry he’d gone overboard. Especially since it hadn’t stopped. Centuries out from the Siege of Terra, and he’d continued snatching up human artefacts wherever he could. Now he not only had specimens, and spare specimens, but spares of spares.
you wouldn't get it, xenofag
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>>98183349
the free model takes a single image and makes a 3d model, but halluciantes a lot of detail, the paid model can be fed up to 4 pictures of different angles and is a little bit more accurate, but it still benefits from someone who can sculpt and fix details like fingers and shit.
Recommended.
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>>98183335
I get being interested in the horus heresy, even if I'm not a fan of it, but the actual 30k setting as it is bores me to death. It's really a worse version of 40k.
It's got big marine armies I guess. Nothing stopped you from deploying entire companies before. 30k as we know it today even started as a 40k thing.
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>>98183312
>the buff genestealer woman with big tits
Ok that's based.
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>>98183349
what is the original source of that meme I saw it once 10 years ago in a harry potter version and laft for like 10 minutes straight, like big belly laugh. I am a retard yes.
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>>98183335
The novels are cool. The game was done in a pseudihistoric sourcebook way like Imperial Armour which scratches the autism real good. Outside of that, it expanded space marines a million times better than 40k and since 8th the ruleset is also much, much better. 30k AdMech mogs over 40k AdMech too.
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>>98183381
It's from a music video iirc, don't remember the name. Catchy beat.
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>>98183381
Edgy anime called boku no pico
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>>98183381
Galo Sengen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M
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>>98183389
I have heard a few times that the rules are better, what are some examples? I've played 40k since 4th edition but haven't really looked into the other games
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>>98183359
>that prose
Jesus fucking Christ, man
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>>98183365
Meshroom?
If it's not a hassle to install I'll try it, even if the generation is gonna take all day. Should be fun for simple bits.
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>>98183421
MeshyAI, it's online
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>>98183312
What do they look like from behind
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>>98183368
>>98183312
Basado, we're truly living in the future
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>>98183412
Too much to list but the game has an actual morale syste, and vehicle damage tables.
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>triumph of saint katherine costs 235 points
>t3, 6" move
>can't go in transports
>nothing particularly noteworthy, literally bolt pistol and power sword weapon profiles
>makes the one faith point you already get an automatic 6, it doesn't produce more faith points in any way
>none, zero of the aura abilities are particularly interesting, they're all minor and things you can get elsewhere and other books have as standard rules
what the fuck? what am I missing? If I were to guess before looking, I would put this at like 150 or 180 points. It can't even go in a transport
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>>98183437
>MeshyAI
Cheers, tim 2 fuk aroond
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>>98183460
Issues of making rules for a Diorama.
That thing should be a bunch of individual models.
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>>98183359
what book is this from?
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>>98183484
The Infinite and the Divine
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>>98183335
>why?
It's a containment for the worst of the marinefags and rivet counters who read too much Imperial Armor books.
And before anyone says it, Imperial Armor books are not and never were the norm for 40k at all.
>Does it sell well?
Enough where it justifies GW making more shit for it.
Though based on everything online people seem to just buy 30k shit so they can use it for 40k anyway.
So the models sell well, but the game itself isn't popular. Despite it being better.
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>>98183438
From what I understand this was made with AI, from the image at the right.
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>>98183502
wow it conveys nothing from the image, truly the epitome of slop
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>>98183438
Cain's back is particularly hallucinated because I had no good pics of it.
>>98183469
All I ask is that you post your STLs in the /3dpg/ general
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>>98183494
>read book about necrons
>marinewank
Every fucking time.
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>>98183497
>And before anyone says it, Imperial Armor books are not and never were the norm for 40k at all.
We know they weren't the norm. We know they should be the norm.
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>>98183512
Not sure what you are saying? Are you mad that the stl file has 3D and not 2D?
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>>98183240
Why do you say that anon?
please don't be another projector
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>>98183497
>Imperial Armor books are not and never were the norm for 40k at all.
Sadly. It was the best that 40k has ever been.
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>>98183515
You haven't read that book, liar
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>>98183523
>pose is wrong
>expression is blank
>hair is unprintable
>details are a mess
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>>98183497
I always find funny that HH started as a spinoff of 7th edition.
No matter how much people bitch about 7th, the issue was not of the main rules, but all horrible army rules.
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>>98183539
What did you expect anon, it is a shit stl file made out of a flat image.
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>>98183539
Just like with image generation its essentially a rough draft, a human with 3d experience would ideally touch it up
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>>98183550
I'd expect some dogshit software claiming it can make 3d equivalents of 2d images to actually be able to do it instead of shitty approximations of a vague idea of the 2d image
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>>98183538
Anon it literally has marine wank as anon pointed out >>98183359
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>>98183557
That's not marine wank just because it mentions marines, retard-kun
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40ktwitter leftists are beginning to call 40ktwitter chuds secondaries and demanding they post minis, advocating against "marvelization" and being pro-grimdark, while 40ktwitter chuds refuse to post models and say that 40k is "more than a shitty miniature game."

Which one of you shitters did this?? it's fucking hilarious
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>>98183554
It did that anon... this AI shit are tools not a replacement of a human. Thinking otherwise would be stupid.
Like anon point out >>98183552 the tool is there to give you a start.
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>>98183564
>literally sucking off HH shit
>not marinewank
Anon please.
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>>98183575
>sucking off
>just talks about how shit the imperium became because of the heresy and how he's worried he's collecting too many humans
illiteracy is a challenge a lot of third worlders like you face so I won't judge you too harshly
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>>98183409
thanks homie

>>98183408
it wasnt boku no pico at all! this show made me feel wierd!
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>>98183552
>>98183569
So it's worthless like everybody has known since AIslop was unveiled
Keep it in your contaiment general mohindur
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>>98183592
Fuck off, this model took a day to get into a printable state, but it would have easily taken me a week to do manually. If you can't see the value in that I don't know what to tell you.
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>>98183611
sorry saar there's a general for you to post slop like this in saar
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>>98183622
I accept your concession.
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>>98183611
>that
>printable state
the absolute STATE of slopfags
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>>98183568
>are beginning to call
Tourists getting btfo by a simple "post models" has been common for years now, even on twitter. Always funny. Not exclusive to 40k either.
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>>98183592
It generates rough drafts instantly thats not useless lol
I get the AI hate but dont be retarded
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>>98183630
four words to say you've lost the argument
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>>98183632
this is especially funny because if you’re purely a secondary, then the “return” still sucks because they for some reason set it 500 years before fantasy proper, so all the interesting shit that happens in the 2500s is locked away
no carstein, no gotrek and felix, no matthias thulmann, no thanquol, ect. just purely models.
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>>98183611
That's cool. Even in its infancy it's impressive.
I'm still gonna learn blender/zbrush to make bits and hire actual sculptor/modeler for anything substantial.
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>>98183514
>>98183502
>>98183312
>try the slop tool on a whim for fun
>the results have melted faces and basic details wrong
This feels like comparing one of those shopped fast food ads to the actual product
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>>98183682
>the results have melted faces and basic details wrong
So average GW face. What is the issue here then?
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>>98183682
What picture did you use? I legit just fed it this doodle unmodified
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>>98183611
>inquisitorial rosette just melting into flamer pipe and no rosary chain connecting it
>no goggles
>headdress all melted
>that """purity seal""" on the right tit
>whatever the fuck those fingers are in the powerfist
>not even mentioning how the pilot arm on the flamer will break in two nanoseconds and all those coat buckles will fail during the print even with supports or in the off chance they survive they'll snap when removing supports
that's a printable state to you?
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>>98183704
You know these are toys right?
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>>98183611
>printable state
now print it
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>>98183696
This one
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>>98183711
sorry dog, I don’t like people holding up a “toy” that was looks like it was partially melted by acetone, and saying its completely normal looking.
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>>98183704
More or less, I'm actually fixing the rosette right now, the headdress was even worse at the start, and the power fist had 4 more fingers instead of a thumb.
As I said, it's a decent start.
Also the buckles are way thicker than they look. The pilot light was even worse and more uneven, but I should still make it thicker, good catch on that.
>>98183719
Did you separate it into two images? it goes crazy if you try to do two at the same time.
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>>98183704
Well for tool having schizophrenia is not bad. I've seen worst models.
I'd prefer if my models where not shit.
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>>98183568
its obviously, most 40k xitter chuds are marinefags, HFY larpers and full of secondaries, marvelslop is their very soil. No wonder that some lefties with more that 78 IQ found the way to own ze chuds. Also it doesn't help that one of chuds leader is a passive homosexual who cant assemble xirs black templars
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>>98183575
Nta but the book is like 1% marines and 99% le epic uwu reddit robits. Might be something you'd enjoy.
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>>98183729
I dont give a fuck what peoples toys look like lmfao I have shit going on
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>>98183611
Dude, this looks like shit.
AI is garbage and you thinking this is somehow in a "printable" state just proves that all AI fags are morons.
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>>98183746
If you had shit going on you wouldn't be here
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>>98183744
I like my non marine books without marines.
I know it can be done I've seen it!
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>>98183736
This is infinetly less shit than the AI sloppa.
The front sight is fucking upside down, whoopdie doo. Cut it off and then glue a new front sight on top of the gun.
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>>98183749
BASED
HOLY MOTHER OF BASED
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>>98183746
you’re in a toy general, if you don’t like people talking about toys, then get out of the toy general, retard.
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>>98183753
I just think its kinda retarded to call the book marinewank when all marine stuff in the book fits on a single page
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>>98183764
>>>/toy/
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>>98183760
It didn't even make it to production
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>>98183732
>Did you separate it into two images? it goes crazy if you try to do two at the same time.
no I didn't, already deleted the account so I'm not going to be retrying
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>>98183760
>he front sight is fucking upside down, whoopdie doo. Cut it off and then glue a new front sight on top of the gun.
You can fix schizo AI files too. So hardly a relevant point.
I know everyone hates AI, but its not exactly replacing good people. Slop replaced Slop.
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>>98183771
Good. It shouldn't. It's still less retarded regardless
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>>98183749
Based.
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>>98183750
Im at work rn shit takes 2 seconds to phonepost so what youre saying is retarded
>>98183764
yeah i dont take toys that serious bruh
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>>98183792
Based badass...
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>>98183766
Too much. I'd like 0 marines. If I wanted marines of any kind I'd look for literally any other book.
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>>98183736
>needs to bring up a rare model fuck up that everyone talks about constantly to prove AI is on par with regular models
>>98183760
to add to this, the model is also just a resin upgrade pack for horus heresy. its a huge fuck up, but its easily avoidable and even if you did use it, the mistake would be easily be covered through the cheerleader effect in a proper army. not like the inquisitor model which is meant to be a center piece and has numerous fuck ups all over the body (not to mention would easily snap because its not meant to be a physical model).
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>>98183810
>needs to bring up a rare model fuck up
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>>98183810
Yeah GW only makes awesome perfect models lmfaoo
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>>98183835
I like mine better
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>>98183835
>everyone that does not suck GW dick is the same anon
The AI has the excuse of being a rock, what the hell is the excuse for GW? Is not the first time this shit has happen.
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>>98183822
Nta but couldn't it be argued that the belt simply goes around the 'inner' gun
I'm no gun autist though so maybe I'm missing some obvious shit
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>>98183822
rare fuck up, as in doesn’t happen often, and I’ve seen that model also talked about constantly as a showcase for GW fuckups. you could probably point out a dozen fuck ups out of the hundreds (thousands?) of kits that have been made, but it still doesn’t justify how a “printable state” for AI would be considered completely unusable by anyone sane, and the same would go for any other AI generated model, meanwhile GW models are usually okay.
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>>98183822
two models vs every single AIslop model
next cope?
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>>98183874
In that case why even have a magazine
why DOES it have magazines? it's an external sponson
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>>98183874
They copy pasted the guns.
Also the magazine is cutting the lower weapon in half.
On a side note the magazine being so war forward while also having a long gun is just silly and not in an ork fun silly, but as in stupid silly.
Because even real world guns that have the magazine that up the rest of the gun is mostly for holding it. Which is not needed in a Boltgun weapon.
Visually this thing is no better than AI slop, might even be worst since someone made it.
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>>98183893
I guess im not as autistic about it as you are
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>>98183904
>I-I don't even care
cool, stop shilling your low effort AIslop here then
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>>98183874
You can argue that, for sure, the design just looks like a simple copy-paste and move to off-set them. Even if went with the idea that the top drum isn't clipping into the bottom gun, it'd leave the top guns with less ammo than the bottom guns, as the body of the bottom gun takes up space from the ammo box. Not an ideal system for guns designed to fire in unison.
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>>98183893
>printable state
Not the same guy, but GW puts to "print" slop and has been doing it for years. Somehow automatic slop is now wrong.
Slop is slop regardless of who or what made it.
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>>98183915
cute cope mohindur
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>>98183912
Why even have a magazine. I recall other weapons with the same idea, like the hurricane bolters that at least pretended the boltguns where connected to a big ammo box.
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>>98183902
Are you sure it's a magazine and not just a box for a belt?
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>>98183924
Why are you defending GW slop anon? Are you getting paid at least?
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>>98183910
Ima do whatever I want whenever I want anon lol
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>>98183904
bro, the AI model looks like its melting. if you think that’s passable, then unironically save your money by painting those green army soldiers sold in a bucket.
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>>98183930
>hurr it's GWslop!!!
ah, an AIjeet AND a /v/ermin
what a combo of subhuman qualities
>>98183934
Now type that without crying
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>>98183936
Meh
>>98183937
Hey wait a minute, youre just being mean!
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>>98183611
the post that finally mindbroke 40kg once and for all
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>>98183981
>mindbroke
that's not what everybody laughing at one jeet posting what he thinks is passable AIslop is
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>>98183981
This is 100 times more preferable to any mention of decals of space wolves.
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>>98183696
Man...Grinda used to be such a good artist. He had that talent of even making his chicken scratches look good.
BTW do you have that model of Sangy? (Pls)
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Are there people who actually fucking pay for Warhammer+
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>>98181509
>since fascism has been making a comeback in earnest the last 10 years
good, its the only way forward
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>>98184001
>Grinda
neat, I only saw that pic posted here without context, mind linking the artist?
https://litter.catbox.moe/elm7zxdjrv0we23j.stl
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>>98183981
>he thinks this even comes close to a mindbreak for /40kg/
wow, the anons were right, the armageddon and 11th edition announcement has brought in a wave of retards who’ve never been on /40kg/ before.
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>>98184010
Yeah its better than all the AI slop animations so I play GW money for it
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>>98184020
take a nap anon you’re seething so hard you’re on the brink of a panic attack, it might calm your nervous system
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>>98181797
>He still melty
you are not a smart man
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>>98183749
>ai fag
>shows you the worst shit ever
>LOOK HOW GOOD THIS LOOKS HUR DURRR
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>>98184026
>didn’t deny it
man, this shit is only going to get worse when the new Total War and Dawn of War are released.
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>>98184041
practically admitted youre seething
Looking forward to it kek
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>>98184017
Thx very much.
Now Grinda. I need to prefice this with few things. The guy is not on Blue Sky and the archive of his Drawings is here
https://e-hentai.org/?f_search=Grindaviking+
Honestly I recomend just going there but If you want
https://bsky.app/profile/grindagoat.bsky.social
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>>98184045
>looks forward to seeing more retards flood in so he can be in good company
grim
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>>98184047
That is uh... not what I expected to see.
Oh well, make sure to post your dudes once you print and paint them!
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>>98184045
You post a lot and its all the same.
>you mad me not lol
Honestly kill yourself
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>>98183744
Not true, there is also the .05% where Exodites tell Trazyn he's being an autist and that he shouldn't fuck with the McGuffin (they are correct).
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>>98184060
Nah itll be fun
>>98184086
Lighten up dork
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MAKE IT KEK BOY
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>>98183184
Maybe it’s cause he’s a traitor and hates the emperor Idk dude



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