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>In GW store>Newcomers asking about the hobby because of Armageddon>Employee unironically recommending Squidmar as an helpful channel for beginnersI hate this hobby so much sometimes.
>>98189680you just stood by and let that happen? gatekeeping is definitely a dead concept
Check on your world eater bros because 11th ruined the armyIts fucking over
>>98189657>TQDunno where they're at exactly, but last game I played they smacked some Templars around, so they're probably close to Armageddon.
>>98189697uh no it didn't
>>98189680better than the employee shilling overpriced starter sets or $300 armageddon boxes
l like orks :D
>>98189697Did they really ruin it or are you just mad they didn't give every detachment the purge the foe disposition? Because you'd have to be fucking stupid to think they would do that for you.
I’m probably going to start making threads now that it seems our resident throoders have disappeared, what are some good recommendations for thread questions?
i was thinking of starting to learn 2nd editionany tips and do i have to spend 2000 euros on ebay to get all the tokens
I bought mirelurks to proxy for chaos spawn. It's damn near perfect, they look cool, they come in 2s, and they're near enough the right size.
I really dont know why people like the Lion, by far the biggest fuckup of the loyalist primarchs. Terrible judge of character, gives weapons to perturabo after killing sons of horus. Extreme ego and barely helped at all during the heresy.
>>98189755the only chapter that less popular than its successors
>>98189657If my dudes showed up to Armageddon, the war would be over very quickly.
>>98189750damn, that’s some heavy slaanesh corruption.
>>98189750Nice. A guy in my LGS used those AOS ghosts for spawn proxies in his World Eaters. Dude ended up priming them white and painting them in BFTBG paint to look like living, pissed off blood ghosts.
Marines Malevolent are the Astartes at their purest form. They are what Astartes generally would be if left unattended, and made to do one thing. They have only Goals in mind and failure is not an option in any circumstance.Think of Thunder Warriors, without any of the ailments. They are Weapons of War to enact Emperor's will.
>>98189750some of the fallout minis look awesome, im debating buying some t51 models just as a fun paint project.
>>98189760counter argument: they are also the only chapter that made actual successful and popular successor chapters within the playerbase
>>98189680Had someone tell me AOS spearhead was more popular than 40k killteam, and that I should take a look at that game. I was polite andsaid “No thanks, AOS has amazing models, but the lore rubs me the wrong way”
>>98189761>his dudes are super powerful and not o’brien must suffer tier losers constantly on the backfoot LAMELAME
>We're driving in mach 2 on Schola Progenium Zone
>>98189760this >>98189776they’re like a good father who built his children up, and led them to greatness.
>>98189783>Had someone tell me AOS spearhead was more popular than 40k killteamdunno about popularity but its definitely got better rules.kill team is such a good idea to highlight obscure parts of the 40K universe but it plays like shit for something that could just easily rip off XCOM on a boardgame
>>98189680>>98189783AoS feels like the better game at the moment. Which is sad because I want 40k to be better
>>98189783>warcry>spearheadWhy can't we have good models AND fun games like AoS?
>>98189783anon squidmar means a youtuber whose probably like, ninjon. Stop being so fucking new.
Son
>>98189719i like femstodes :D
>>98189831who ejaculated mustard on her
TQ: No they're split up in different warzones. Too many cooks in the kitchen or something to be at Armageddon.
>>98189697I'd hardly say ruined, but we're still in for another edition of Berserker Warband and little else. It's sad that they reworked Vessels of Wrath for no good reason, that could have been interesting with improved terminators.
>>98189831Not digging the gloss finish on that armor, looks like it's made of slime mold or something.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98189657Now that we have the full picture for the new detachments, DP and dispositions, what's your call, /40kg/? Are any 2-1 or even 1-1-1 combos gonna pop off or is everyone just gonna default to the 3DP standbys? Are the assymetric missions gonna be a clusterfuck, or maybe a wet fart of Purge the Foe mirrors? Is any underdog faction gonna pop off out of nowhere and terrorize?
>>98189806For me to like 40k as much as aos they would need to uncomplicated the scoring, add spillover wounds, randomize turn order, and most importantly halve the ranges of every gun in the game, with the exception of stuff that's already 18" or less.I don't think any of that is likely though
>>98189839The fact that they made the datasheets balanced around BW statwise is so retarded. Everything else has a massive opportunity cost. Would say the same for BA with LAG but fuck em, they got good base Marine datasheets anyway.
>>98189849>r, and most importantly halve the ranges of every gun in the gameeffectively they have done this but the fix to this is probably going to cause more issues down the line which ends up reverting the change.
>>98189849>add spillover woundsThis is the most retarded suggestion I've seen in this general in at least a month.
I love them for their character; They're a nice contrast to more 'noble' Chapters, and their brutal vitriolic nature makes them enjoyable compared to the general image of Space Marines as little more than automatons (albeit memes seem to SLIGHTLY exaggerate just how bad these guys really are)
>TQWe are the Marines of the Malevolent!Emperor's most loyal chapter!
>>98189657>tqMy tsons are there because all the waagh energy is creating some great waves for my disc bros to surf.My word bearers have sent some undercover agents to check out what's going on after the season of blood and to try and push an altered lectio divinitatus to cause I fighting amongst the more fanatic imperial servants.
tau detachments are so shit>want to play battlesuits>oh cool ill take these two battlesuit focused detachme>haha nope cant do that>want to play kroot>oh cool ill take these two kroot focused detachme>haha nope cant do that either>cant play my favorite one (experimental cadre) any more because it got nerfed into the ground>the only detachment with any freedom is kauyon but it doesnt do anything until round 3
>>98189875>first appearance was them bombing a refugee camp because it contained enemy combatants they really are the emperor’s chosen people.
Are Red Corsairs Raiders worth trying out? I can see immediately that the Reave-Captain is a neat alternative to the standard CL but Raiders seem a little underwhelming compared to either Legionaries or Chosen.
>>98189894Still more effective than IDF
>>98189760Does anyone care about the successors of other founding chapters?
>>98189831but why
Would Gulliman like Sabrina Carpenter?What is his me espresso?
>>98189914flesh tearers are pretty popularsame with sons of medusaand the mortifactors and howling griffons and scythes of the emperor and marines malevolent and mantis warriors and carcharodons
>>98189774I love 'em too, probably gonna make my DW terminator captain one
>>98189914I was under the impression that Lamenters and Raptors have a notable number of people who like them
Is this a retcon? I thought the Kroot didn't drink the Greater Good Kool-Aid
>>98189906I love how the MM fanbase adopted the shark mouths
>>98189914there's popular successor chaptersnone of them really exploded out as much as Black Templars
>>98189914Dork Angels don't have successors worth talking about
I miss when a deluge of bolter fire would only ever harm a Rhino from behind. I miss when a single lascannon could end a Rhino. Weapon profiles suck. The new edition rules rollout is even worse.
>>98189963
>>98189963You can still play those editions.
>Be me, Salamander, Proud Son of Vulkan>went to Astartes gym>pic related firstborn came up to me>bellowed "You're too black to be here">ripped my arm off>lie on the ground bawling>"yet you bleed the same">told me to GTFOHow do i respond without looking weak?
>>98189760IF were so popular they got founded twice.
>>98189914Some like the Black Templars are more popular than their founders, admittedly Imperial Fists isn't saying much.
>>98189906>>98189941I wanted to keep the entire armageddon box for myself to paint the marines side as marines malevolent, but this just made me realize there’s not a single beakie in the box. are beakie heads hard to come by?
>what leaders units can attach to is gonna be in the munitorum field manual>so will force dispositions for armiesWaow there’s gonna be quite the change with how in depth changes are gonna be with the quarterly balance updates.
>played a couple games of killteam is the "full game" anything close to the mechanics in there, or should I forget it all as I go through the core rulebook?
>>98189990I am sure you can find 3rd party helmets for sale online for cheap.
>>98189996You think that, but they're actually going to change very little after the first one where they realize what all the busted ass combos are and nerf them to hell.
>>98189990>are beakie heads hard to come by?They get sold out quick unfortunately. Misfortune of being the most popular helmet
Tell me about 21th century Bolters.
>>98189990They’re in the Sternguard kit and Raven Guard upgrade sprue. If you’re lucky they may be included with the Van Vets, unless the sprues have already been revealed and they aren’t there. The other more crazy option buying Mk6 kits from Heresy and stealing their helmets. Though at that point, why not just proont?
>>98190002Right but then the codexes will come out, introducing new, additional busted ass combos that will require a nerf in the next update.
>>98190006Meme weapons that will be made obsolete by squad-level kamikaze drone capability.
>>98189657>TQ/mydudes/ are not on Armageddon, and are stuck way out in the ghoul stars. However, I plan on painting my marines from the 11th edition box and some extras laying around as Crimson Fists. I became a big fan of their look and their story just works so well for Armageddon.
>>98189983Build a new arm. Then rig his car with an incendiary device.
>>98190015Tau wrote this
>>98189848Salamander psyker builds are gonna get weird. But they’re low hanging fruit.
>>98189990I've bought the tactical squad purely to cannibalize it for old helmets and bits.
Since Marines Malevolent are fatherless twats, who's the deadbeat father of theirs?
>>98189889>Taufag
>>98189657>TQNaw, they’re gearing up to overthrow an armoury world and loot it to bolster the sector they’re keeping alive in the Imperium Nihlus. Ork’s have been a pretty small issue of late. Chaos has been a big problem alongside opportunistic Tau backed separatists.
>MALEVOLENTPOSTING
>>98190043I know it's a meme to call them a successor of Iron Warriors, but their fatherless behavior just fits so well with IW's, not to mention the on the nose hazard stripes they put on their weapons for veterancy ranking.
>>98190062>>98190043>>98190003>>98189774
>>98190062>fatherless behaviorThe best Space Marines are the ones who never acknowledge or have anything to do with dogshit Primarch nonsense.
>>98190062The Hazard stripes aren’t a formal part of the Iron Warrior’s colors, sticking them on whatever without rhyme or reason is an in Legion joke only they find funny.
>>98190062MM are too based to be reddit warriors
>>98189857>gigaton titan mounted city blaster lance cannon>politely stops at its first splattered grot, gaunt or cultistLol nice game. Very believable
>>98190043Biggest hint so far might be a Death Guard Captain; Crysos Morturg. He was a Devastator who would see casualties as acceptable at any cost and had a strike cruiser named "Malice". Mortarion hated him for his methods and that's the reason he was on the chopping block on Istvaan, despite his unwavering loyalty to the Poop King. He would be saved by the Mechanicum, and would be forced to become a Blackshield Captain sent to Ghoul Stars, possibly having cells of Iron Warriors.Biggest giveaway is that Crysos Morturg was written by Nick Kyme, the author behind Marines Malevolent.
>>98190099>written by Nick Kyme
>>98190099MM being DG marines that learned how to shower occasionally IS pretty funny, honestly.
>>98190002I'm not buying anything until like at least 3 months into the edition. I'm still shell-shocked from last editions index where my leagues army dropped 50% of its points value over 3 months and have a 25% winrate until it did
Any other chapters with probable traitorous ancestries? The silver skulls are a bit on the nose bur I always appreciated the blood raven word bearer connection, even though thousand suns is the more popular theory for them
>>98190099>Crank 3: Heresy Voltage
>>98190003fuck, well there’s a swap meet happening this weekend where I’ll be able to ask around, or failing that I can cannibalize a tactical squad like >>98190037 did (my deathskulls would probably like some looted equipment anyway), or I can buy the space marine head sprue which will get me two beakies and a bunch of other heads to replace all the mk10s.
>>98190099You know ADB’s comments about traitor loyalists not being canon itself hasn’t made it’s way into any texts, so I choose to believe this.
>>98190107Kyme writes better Bad guys than Amphibians, he should stick to it
>>98190043Perturabo>>98190062It's not a meme
Speaking of swap meets anyone ever sell an army? What's a fair price? My flgs offers 30% msrp cash on the spot but I know that's a lowball so they can turn a profit. What's reasonable? 50% ?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>tfw they broke GSC with the changes to cult ambushgonna need an update otherwise this army is almost unplayable
>>98189983I let the scoops take care of the problem for me.
>Can't stack Pactbound Zealots with Cabal of ChaosDamn.... Daemon Prince bros...
>>98190107I’m really sorry to tell you this anon, butnick kyme is the one behind what makes marines malevolent cool. his books had them be complete assholes to everyone around them, and cut off from supplies, being forced to loot shit and use equipment falling apart. before nick kyme wrote them, they were just an ordinary chapter that was arguably a bit too willing to sacrifice civilians
>>98190144>gsc army rule needs rewritten>againSo in other words its any random Tuesday? Nothing new. I fully expect my army rule to be different every time I play it
>>98190124Carcharodons supposedly have world eater and night lords introgression, but their traits and history clearly point to them being a loyalist splinter of the Ashen Claws (Raven Guard). Aren’t Minotaurs supposedly Iron Warriors gene seed?
>>98190127I considered the space marine head sprue as well because it's cheaper, but many of them are just variations of the MK.X helmet and a shit ton of bare heads. I find the tactical box is better because you got 3 MK.VI beaky helms and 10 MK.VII helmets. Plus, you get all the extra older shoulder pads and decor bits, and a backpack banner (which every intercessor kit should have imho). It's just a really good kit to cannibalize for parts.
>>98190043They might be Terran-born Iron Hands, and they don't have a daddy anymore.Marines Malevolent have outright vitriol towards weakness, will accept any casualties as a statistic, and openly go into conflicts with other chapters like Salamanders and Black Templars.
>>98190124There are a ton of them actually, I'd have to check which one they were but there are loyalist chapters from all traitor legions, some of them multiple chapters in fact, I think death guard has like 3 chapters at least.
>>98190138>>>/reddit/
>>98190155Minotaurs are confirmed iron warriors yes. Carcharodons are either pure NL or chimeric NL+RG, they're certainly not ashen claws as the AC calls them mongrels.
>>98189783Man the game rubs me the wrong way. They totally fucked up the current edition which is why so many people are playing Spearhead, Underworld, and TOW over here instead. This sucks because the previous edition was really quite good
>>98190124Blood Ravens are Word Bearers
>>98190124carcharodons are world eaters
>>98190181I had heard 4th edition was completely abandoned. What exactly did they change that drove everyone away? Is it just spearhead being cheaper and more popular than the bigger games?
>>98190181I hear 2E was everyone's favorite. On here people say that 3E was decent but it killed the scene at my FLGS, only 4th edition kinda had it come back.
>>98190189The rules are catastrophically shrimplified and some factions had pretty severe shrinkage of gameplay options as a result. They need to double back a bit.>>98190201People did enjoy 2E here but I gotta say man, how your scene approached 3E vs. 4E is completely different from mine
>>98189657LETS FUCKING GOHATE IS THE SUREST WEAPON
>>98190124Exorcists.
>Innocence does not exist, only degrees of guilt.>Freedom must be earned, it must be fought for. >Cowards, the weak and the impure do not deserve to live.
>>98190189AoS has always had philosophy of “models first” and not wanting to invalidate the way you build your dudes. My understanding is that in 4th they took that too far and now it doesn’t matter if you build your dudes with spears or swords, they have the same profiles regardless.
>>98190211>>98190230nta but they essentially 10th editioned it if I'm understanding you correctly
>>98190124Shadow Wolves. Their own writer outright said they are Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus
>>98190230This is correct, but what makes it worse is that arbitrarily some units *do* get to have different rules for spears vs. swords. They also massively, massively cut down on the number of enhancements like warlord traits and relics you get to choose from (from a page or two full to about 3 to 6 per army)
>Inquisitor investigates Marines Malevolent>"Captain Renyard, your chapter stands here accused of...">120 counts of murder in the 2nd degree>140 counts of armed theft of Mechanicum property>220 counts of piracy in high space>180 counts of fraud>37 counts of resisting arrest >and one Navigator treaty violation.>HOW DO YOU PLEAD?!>[Captain Renyard looks around the room]>Renyard says clearly "NOT GUILTY"
>>98190225I like this image
>>98190237In 10th they made it so that you’re basically dumb if you don’t build your dudes with the strongest gear you can bring by removing war gear cost. You can still make your dudes with the less strong war gear, there’s just no benefit. In AoS you don’t have rules for your gear for that to be a decision.
>>98190187>black eyes and fair skin like ravenguard or night lords>For Carcharodons, “the blindness” psychological state is just like the Raven Guard’s “Sable Brand”. >Speak in an ancient and extremely formal version of Terran high gothic (the exiled ravenguard during the crusades were the Terran veterans, exiled for their brutality in the field and penchant for slavery)>Have someone tell me Raven Guard relics>Ashen Claws refer to them as mongrelsProbably started off as loyalist terran raven guard like the ashen claws, but picked up some other gene seed along the way.
>>98190248> i have an angle!Love that scene.
>>98189657>TQ/mydudes/ are busy fighting /myotherdudes/ on the periphery of the pariah nexus, with both occasionally taking a break to beat up my friend's elves.
Which Tyranid Hive Fleet has the best colors /tg/?
>>98190258>"WHAT ANGLE?!!!">"Him">(points at a Malnurished Beaten down serf who reeks of cigarette smoke)
>sit with a color wheel for an hour trying to think of some super-saturated original color scheme for my craftworlders>nothing I can come up with that's better than Iyandan
>>98190266Based
I wish 40k had cool mechs/vehicles.
>>98190275I wish it had cooler (bigger) aircraft
Anons, I wanna start a new army for the new edition, because I'm bored with my current dudes, and painting them doesn't make me happy anymore. I wanna run lots of dudes in transports. What army should I do to run lots of dudes in transports, drop on points, hold them, and then die slowly?
>>98190160>ten mark 7s and three mark 6s damn, I didn’t realize it had that many. I guess I’ll pick that up then if I don’t see any good options at the swap meet.
>>98189916i like the models
>>98190280
>>98190278Mechanized guard spam
>>98190280I like them too, or at least I like yours.
>>98190285>>98190275
>>98190278deathwatch with three blackstars
>>98189889So long as their faction rule is still the retarded flowchart it is then Tau will always be shit
>>98190285the imperial guard have the lamest vehicles in any sci-fi/fantasy. They’re so ugly.
>>98190278Buy recast Steel Legion infantry plus however you get your normal vehicles as this is literally how they operate in the lore
I don’t get how gw can make a robot so lame.
>>98190310Is this and the shield dread in plastic as stand alone kits yet?
>>98190310>literally the coolest thingDid you bring your thinking cap writing that?
>>98190285This. Chimera with 2 heavy flamers… Krieg heavy weapon squad with 3 heavy flamers, krieg combat engineers with flamer and remote mine. Roll up, blast with heavy flamers, flamer, remote mine, smoke screen, overwatch, krieg heavy weapons squads get to shoot for free upon death.
>>98190313I think so. >>98190314It’s kinda gay. The lower half is bad, and the crop top and chest needs to be redone
>>98190278Do the detachment that makes scions battleine
>>98190322>>98190285The problem is that the army I'm tired of working on is a scion focused guard army.
R8 my list>Tyranids>invasion fleet>Broodlord >neurotyrant (warlord) (adaptive biology)>four 20 nid Hormagaunt squads>5 ten nid termagant squads>3 five nid barbgaunt squads>3 three nid leaper squads>2 ten nid genestealer squads>3 nid venomthrope squad>psychophage>screamer killer
Question, I read a short story or excerpt once and it was of some chaos space Marines that met abbaddon, it was actually well written Any one know which author and book?it was like a khorne CSM and some others that went to abbadons ship don't remember much else
>>98189718the starter sets are the only good deals they sell though
>>98189774If I played this game (I never will), I would play MM, Raptors or Minotaurs only. All the rest are gay.
Whoops
>>98190357>every normie within 5 mile radius
>>98190357What happened, I was poopin?
>>98190357>>98190367>>98190370>CAPTAIN!!!>HIS ANGELS ARE SHELLING OUR POSITION!!!
Are imperial saints just like revered figures like actual saints or did they all sprout wings ala living saint?
Whenever I see some retard try to defend "free" (forced) wargear because "I like to take all the best stuff" or claim it means more variety I have an aneurysm. I don't understand how people this stupid even get into games like this in the first place.
Whenever I see some retard try to defend wargear points because they don't want to take all the cool stuff on their dudes I have an aneurysm. I don't understand how people can want to build their dudes with shitty boring garbage items, instead of the cool options in the first place.
>>98190408>>98190396Samefegging o algo do oldfrogcacas really?
How dangerous a clan of Orks actually would be to a professional military like the Guard or Tau:>Blood Axes (understand actual tactics, even if they're bad at it)>Goffs (don't waste time on stupid shit and get straight to the point)>Bad Moons (have the cash to spend on fancier weapons, even if they're not any better at using them)>Evil Suns (they go fast, and they might crash into you, maybe)>Deffskulls (can only ever be as dangerous as who they can steal from)>Snakebites (completely inconsequential)
Do you think we’ll get the MFM and the points for the new units this week? Im eager to try out the new land speeders
>>98190333>7 monthsthey must've been really shitI finished a 2000 chapter webnovel in like 2 months
>>98190433I feel like the Goffs, Bad Moons, and Evil Suns are the most dangerous to a trained army due to their weaponry or vehicles, any attempt to out-military a trained army or unga bunga them is a lost cause.It's not that much of a difference though, at the end of the day you're describing nearly fearless green supersoldiers wielding weapons that got basically a free technology level from whatever they're supposed to have due to bullshit mek magic.
>>98190433Consult the list to see how an actual reasonable army would think.
>>98190490Wow, look at all those ork klans!
>>98190495The Tau would absolutely only take the Blood Axes seriously, and be horribly confused at why other orks keep charging in a line at their long range guns.
>>98189680>>Employee unironically recommending Squidmar as an helpful channel for beginnersIsn't that because GW made both sets of rules identical or at least extremely similar? Still a retarded move.
>>98189990>no beakies in the armageddon boxNot true, they're just on the orks :^)
>>98189990You can just buy the Horus Heresy 20-man MkVI box of beakies.Or one of the various legion-themed beakie helmet packs.
>>98190093>BlasterJoke's on you, that gets BLAST. Either way, I'd rather suffer that small bit of incongruence than give up one of 40k's actually better design decisions in having specific niches for different profiles. The sole meaningful variable across attack profiles in AoS is Rend, outside of that it is functionally equivalent to every weapon having a Killingness profile.Hell, if the lack of collateral on really big guns bothers you that much you can just add a patch for the most egregious edge cases: S >= 3T deals damage as mortal wounds. There's your spillover. Does it buff lascannons and greatly nerf humans and eldar and Tau? Yeah, but that's their fault for not being Marines in the Marine game.
>there’s gonna be a spam tax for some unitsPlease James, spare my Terminator spam list….I’m literally painting the last character now…..
>Lion nerfed>Wrath of the Rock is 3DP>Deathwing Knights and Inner Circle Companions aren't great in the other detachments>Detachment combos seem to favor Ravenwing lists but Ravenwing units have low attack volume and are difficult to maneuver due to their sizeDAsisters... I don't feel so good...
>>98189889>waah my favorite detachment is bad I can't play itT'au and slave to "muh winrate" lmao
Think these guys could pass as Eradicators? They're cheaper and you get 4 per box instead of 3.
>>98190328If you want tough infantry space marines in rhinos and land raiders seems like the obvious choice.Eldar get that vehicle detachment, they're squishy but you can use wraith units instead or just suck it upTau are always an option. They're squishy too but devilfish assaults are a classic tau blurb.
I think this detection range tomfoolery is going to be lame and gay
>>98189889eldar detachments are lame too>two separate harlequin detachments that you can't combo and they don't remove the limit of 1 troupe master/army so you can't even do a neat 50/50.>tank detachment that does basically nothingRangers detachment is the only one worth taking even if you don't take any ranger units for the sole purpose of letting you play as recon, which is arguably the best disposition for eldar.
Bravo, GW.>psychic natively ignores cover now>stratagem to ignore cover for psyker unit, all of which ignore cover on all weapons in every unit already>stratagem to gain stealth or the benefit of cover for the "powered up" version>these are the same thing nowChatGPT ass detachment
>>98190578Bet you also have to pay more for taking multiple units of DW Knights, too.
>>98190648There's a bunch of retarded shit all over with the newest updates. Some fliers got "frame" keyword so you literally cannot deploy them right now as they're too big tot fully fit within 6" of a table edge and there're no clauses to get around that, new sequencing makes certain abilities do nothing etc.
>>98190663its just crazy to me, man. all of us know at least one autist at our LGS who immediately picks up on this shit within an hour of a rules drop. is it really so hard to find one of these nerds, have him sign an NDA, and just let him proofread shit?quality control for basically everything has been fucking horrendous
>>98190663>>98190672None of the Death Guard leader characters with the clause about being able to attach in addition to another leader had that bit removed and replaced with the Support keyword but shit like Apothecaries did.
>>98190546I have to protest this point because the HH firstborn helmets, even though they can be put on a primaris body, they are noticeably smaller scaled compared to the beaky helmets you can get in the 40k firstborn kits.
>TQWe have Five great companies on Armageddon so yea bro...we representing and dominating while others pretend to hog the glory.
>>98190692permanent means permanent
>>98190692
>>98190692Pretend I replied with the image of the diorama some anon made with the MM wiping his knife on top of a mountain of dead SW
>>98189657>TQnope, we're on Minerva putting down a chaos cult who were attempting to disrupt the Imperial response to the situation on Armageddon proper.
Threads dead so here’s a little mid thread question >what’s your job and what’s your army?
>>98190709>Safety compliance tard>Chaos, all of it except EC and WE
What company do I paint my blood angels as? First? Is there a guide to symbols and colors and helmet colors and heraldry somewhere?
>>98190722doesn't your codex supplement have those included in their pages somewhere?
idc anymore
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>>98189705Nice Captain America MoP
>>98190578Hopefully fight first units will get heavy discounts. Sanguinor is so trash now. You drop down to save people only to get immediately slapped down if it's against anything remotely decent at melee lmao.
>>98190672>quality control for basically everything has been fucking horrendousBecause there is none. It costs extra money to hire playtesters, meanwhile they can just half-assedly hotfix shit later when they've got time.
>>98189717You're right time to play the same bwb list base for the next 2 years with>ruined blood surge>20 bricks nerfed by coherency rules>angron still the worst primarch >new detachments are action based primaries for an army that should be killing and doesn't have cheap scoring units Lmao, lol even
>>98189724>let's give an army zero utility units then make the majority of their (not the same bwb detachment) into action based primaries
>>98189854Literally thisWe only got nerfed for 2 years straight
>>98190762They actually have play testers. The testers say they get ignored. But then there's known testers who have their army buffed into oblivion and still claim nobody listens to them.
I'm using tartaros terminators to represent gravis because I think they look like shit. The new heavy bolter eradicators are easy to build but what about melta? For some dumb fucking reason they don't have 3 multimeltas, they have a "melta rifle" that's not a meltagun either.
>>98190851They hired a player who mains necrons to help with balacing and necrons have been factually the most consistently good army for an entire edition.Truly a mysterious course of events.
post the latest mini you painted
So apparently there was a Horus heresy game that was in development but it got canceled. It looked about as quality as space marine 2. https://x.com/watchmeanimate/status/2064388124726198575/video/1?s=46
>>98190925Man, primaris really ruin everything.
>>98190916After taking a break from 40k and just painting Nighthaunts for a year, I now finished these
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>>98190916I finished the Spectre Squad sargeant last night. I'm still not very good but I think this one turned out okay
>>98190940Here's one from the back
>>98189783Based. AoS is for human basedjacks.
>>98190946Woops I'm a retard who doesn't attach images
>>98190006M3 Mars pattern bolter.>>98190015Proxy-fused frag to shoot down drones.
Holy shit all the new detachments suck ass. I thought we'd be moving towards a more classic Warhammer with more customisation and random elements alongside a bit of modern streamlining - instead it's the same, boring, clinical crap pandering to competitive fags, afraid to make fun rules for armies. Fuck this hobby, probably have to make the move to Horus Heresy at this point.
Red Scorpions? Apothecaries becoming support might make them cheap enough to spam on tacticals/intercessors. Hope they give their fnp back though.
Is it true Armageddon is bombing?
>>98191011Why do you ask?
>>98191011The orks are bombing Armageddon, sure.
>>98190977I'm just so tired of the variance in options and author favouritism. I don't even think it's intentional: there are only a small number of guys writing the rules, so you either get a guy who plays/understands/likes the vibe of your army and you get fun stuff, or you don't and he phones it in. And whether you get it or not is basically just random.But all these cries about 'oh DP points are great because you can balance and customise better' and then you look at like, the DG and EC ones released on the same day and you realise how little that means. Rules are a tertiary product for GW.
>>98191011The orks are being bombed on Armageddon, sure.
>>98191011Bombs are being dropped indiscriminately on Armageddon, sure.
>>98191018>'oh DP points are great because you can balance and customise better'In theory it is true. In practice there's so few 1DP detachments that there's not a lot you can do with them. I suppose this will be fixed with the codexes but still.
>>98191011yeah, Space marines are boring so nobody wants to buy it. also people realized 10th edition is horrible and 11th edition doesnt do enough to change that.
>>98191018The Black Templar detachment preview for th custom Emperor's Champion got me excited that they would have a bunch of interesting niche options like that and then no other faction has anything at all close to that.Maybe very will in the codexes when they come out, but these indexes are very dull and perfunctory.On a side note, I am very annoyed that all of these rules that we have seen are not actually the full rules because half of them are going to be hidden in the app as advanced rules.
>>98191033Sisters also get a BT-style option which we'll probably see today. But even there you can probably see the writer being lazy, right? Did it for BT, OK what do we do for sisters, well they're all fanatical too just copy BTs homework.
>>98190330Why not get some zoanthropes for your neurotyrant? They're strong, seems like they're going to be stronger in 11th thanks to psychic buffs, and most importantly the models are cool.Haven't had time to paint pic related yet but I'm really happy with the bases. Also tyranid prime with lash whip is a really strong leader for hormagaunts
But guys, don't you feel more narrative now? Don't you feel more balanced?
>>98191045>literally gut crusade>'more narrative'????
>>98191045“All factions are balanced, but some factions are more balanced than others”:James Workshop
>>98191045Not more narrative but wargear costs are coming back and the new terrain rules makes the average board look a million times better so I'll take my wins where I can. Still hoping for 30k style morale, vehicle damage tables and facings though.
>>98190648Weapons with the [Psychic] tag can ignore modifiers, not units with the Psyker keywordNo excuse for the second one though
>>98191033The BT Emperor's Champion detachment was honestly many steps in the right direction, highly customizable. Yet it only applies literally to ONE MODEL IN THE ARMY.The rest of the detachments were a snoozefest, it's like you have one semi-powerful ability and they build a filler detachment around that. They could just add it straight on the datasheet for a points cost or something.
>90% of 1DP detachments are either so narrow as to add barely anything of value to most armies or just straight up bad, frequently both>Several 1DP detachments ruin previously well loved detachments (See Cabal of Chaos)>Detachment point system is overall worthless and adds nothing to do the game>Only impact of it that anyone will remember is when GW inevitably adds some exploitable, overpowered combination that they'll take 4-6 months to patch11th really is an embarrassment.
>>98191069>previously well loved detachments (See Cabal of Chaos)that shit sucked nigga
Chromedome WIP
>>98191078It was never my personal cup of tea, but I know for a fact that lots of people played with it and enjoyed what you could do with it. Now they've drained 100% of the power out of it so it just doesn't do shit anymore.
>>98191045>We heard you complain about X and Y, so we fixed it>really?>No but pretend we did
>>98189848the deathguard 1-1-1 is pretty bonkers and completely removes their mobility drawback. surprise surprise they got the most annoying/broken shit handed to them again.
>>98191002>RS?Yes. Waiting for mkV for a space shark force.
>>98189657>Marines Malevolent edition
>>98191104I love this piece. The head is too small but it makes it all funnier
>>98191096I'm making a RT inspired army with mainly beakies but wanted to expand it to have all armour makrs with chest cables. I'll be adding a few mk4 and waiting for mk5 to finally complete it. The uncertain future of devastators has me worried though. I have a ton of them.
>>98191113Yet somehow people can afford to drink every weekend and watch footy. Curious
>>98191081Love it. Did that flail come from a toy plastic knight?
>>98191011Why would anyone care about this new edition? It's literally edition 10.1.Barely any changes and the changes that are being made are the very definition of 1 step forward, 1 step back.
>>98191117You'll find that watching football can be free and a beer doesn't cost 450$
>>98191113it's not little timmy or his parents who buy toys nowadays it's still the same people who were little timmy 20 years ago
>>98191109Based oldschool marine enjoyer.>devastatorsIf tacticals survive and keep the option to have heavy weapons, you have that.If you have a ton of similar weapons, I'm sure there will be primaris units that you can proxy as.If not, then you have a lot of options you can change on the fly. Think about it like your chapter's arsenal.Or you can play with other rules / another edition where they exist
>>98189657TQNah, my dudes are in my play groups homebrew subsector: pandaemonium. we lost the last campaign for the planet, iron warriors and thousand sons took the hive world and are turning it into a fortress, so my word bearers host has fled into orbit to lick our wounds. my team mates emperors children abandoned the hive city hunting down easier pray to test their swords on. the blood angels and knight world imperial guard are scattered waiting for imperial reinforcements. fun campaign, a shame about no crusades in 11th.
>>98191117Yeah I don't disagree that some people maintain retarded spending habits even in the face of economic ruin. But they are a minority
>>98191113>economy is fucked from low birth rateI'd say the birth rates are fucked because of the economyThis is me if you care
>>98191123That also feeds back into the low birth rates issue, there are 30% less Little Timmys alive now than there were in the 90s
>>98189657I feel like the marines malevolent being extreme dickheads is like the Krieg shovel meme.Are they really like how the memes depict them?What are the mm really like if they aren’t?If they really are assholes then what is the reason why that got out of hand or are they like night lords in being evil but instead of evil it is just being assholes?
>>98191132Love it, post moar
>>98191118Thank you and no that is actually part of it.It's a fansculpt a boomer did of this Imperial Battle Robot from the RT rulebook
>>98191113What is this little Timmy meme and what makes one a little Timmy in the context of 40k?
>>98191122I know niggas thay spend over €100 a month to watch football at home. Sport channels are crazy expensive as they know their userbase is retarded and even more fanatical and involved in their consumption. Did you know that most sportsball fans don't even play themselves? They just watch niggos running after a ball, as this somehow makes them "feel good". Normies truly live life on easy-mode
>>98191069The DG ones are so good I could see running three separate double pens instead of one double double pen or a triple double pen etc.
Anybody tried a flame style plasma glow like pic related but the darkest colors are on top instead of the bottom of the plasma coils?Also how are the Ak interactive contrast paints they call quick gen?Can I paint acrylic colors over them and not have to worry about reactivation like Armypainter’s speedpaint 1.0?
>>98191145It's an old meme sir, rrom the pre Internet days Little Timmy denotes a preteen who engages in a traditionally teenage/adult hobbyIt's also just a stereotypical name for a young boy in the Western world, probably because of Lassie
>>98191140Fuck I want more shit like that to be official. Give it to the Votann since they use robots
Sisters of Purification
>>98191150Thank you anon.I think unc now means boomer?I missed the opportunity to get the skibidi toilet space marine stl and look hip with the youth these days.
>>98191129>If tacticals surviveI'm not very optimistic about that either considering how much they are pushing intercessors again. Which I don't get because conceptwise they are just tacticals but boring. At least 30k tacticals can be 20 man strong to compensate. The saving grace will be if ints can ride rhinos this time.
>>98191145There are two little Timmy memes on 4chan:>/tg/ specific: little Timmy is a kid, usually an obnoxious smartypants one, whose parents treat the LGS as a daycare and who plays 40k or MtG or some other nerd hobby game via his parents buying him shit. And probably annoys you during game time because of it.>other: Timmy is a generic white guy, usually posted as part of some sort of racial demoralisation campaign wherein he is beaten up or cucked by black men, by a Latino or Indian Nazi from /pol/. Comes from a tiktokker who made a video like 'if your bf white you single to me, what timmy goin do' who was then shot by a white man for harassing his gf
Is it possible that I can just walk into an official warhammer store and buy say a single model or character or even a skulls box of those are being sold and then ask for the infernus space marine and be given it?Or am I stuck to current month’s model?I uhhh want to 3d print an Ainsley Harriott space marine sized head and make a salamanders infernus Ainsley marine.
>>98191140>>98191081I like this one, I don't think it's available anywhere. Hybrid Miniatures has taken on most of the Trollsoup fan sculpts but not all unfortunately.
>>98191162Just pretended you're new to thr hobby and yoy'll get one and a painting sesh
>>98191158Thank you for making this almost 30 unc get back in the meme game.I’ve never encountered the /tg/ definition of a Timmy.Are they as bad as the mtg smelly card player?>that other definition Damn son is this real and confirmed? I need a source as this is just hilarious in a morbid way.
>>98191162You dont even need to buy anything to get the monthly modeldoesnt hurt to ask about the old ones, just in case they have one
>>98191167>painting sessionI want to take the model home and assemble it for my Ainsley.Does it have to be painted in store?I think the last time I bought anything from an official gw was that bugman dwarf for aos.Hopefully good scans of him exist now so I can print and then sell the two boxes I bought.I was afraid of messing up the first one.
>>98191174>older monthly modelsPray for me that I can get those as a bonus after buying just the lahmian medium and reikland fleshshade.I will mix them with a dark tone to make a marine juice mix I saw on YouTube a while ago.If the gw washes are still good. Some posts say they got a new formula and are bad now and it doesn’t carry the same impression as those who miss badab black and devlan mud.
>>98191182Damn I love Black Templars.Space Marines as the batshit insane freaks they should be.
>>98190692>weDis nigga delusional
>>98191171>Damn son is this real and confirmed?Yeah. Searching Barry Washington Jr will get you the court cases.
Hey anons.I plan to sculpt fan made stls of marines.Sort of as a new hobby but related to this hobby.I plan to mimic the primaris marine proportions.And keep the detailing in a “less is more” way like I’m sculpting for plastic injection models ten years ago.Then upload them for free to download on mmf and cults and thingiverse but there will be a donation link for tips.Is that a good way to avoid gw sending his lawyer hit squads after me?There is a guy who made “not imperial guard tank” proxies who basically did that and seems just fine.And reptilian overlords sells not!marines but they look like thunder warriors just fine so maybe there are more steps I can take?
>>98190064Hazard stripes?
>>98191182They keep giving them actual boltguns in art but we're stuck with bolt rifles for the models.
>>98190064AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>98191224Yes you can list them as Space Knights or whatever and be fineThe Scrungaloids got C&D when they were going to be a kickstarter but now they're available for free no bother
>>98190138>>98190124I think the appeal of loyal chapters of traitor legions is still unexplored territory until a writer still working for gw confirms it all.Adb is probably still booty blasted that he didn’t get to be that guy.Maybe at BL those kinds of stories are there to be used in an emergency situation to get sales if BL sales start faltering too much.
>>98190225How many more meme worthy marines or other factions deserve a meme like that?
>Pysker xenos exist>Xenos blanks exist>Tree like xenos can exist Okay hear me out anon. Living psyker tree xenos that have like an evil offshoot/cousin that are blanks. Said blank trees can have their branches harvested like a tree. The wood is still alive like irl wood for a time.This branch is a club you can use to beat too death deamons and banish them, block psyker shit.>WhyI wanted a in universe reason for why my chaos lord has a wooden club (like Herakles). It being a secret/hidden anti psyker weapon I think is cool. No one expects a weapon to have a null aura. Maybe I can have them grow a sapling that is just astartes club sized, he just pulls it from its space pot to wail on someone if need be
>>98190278You will end up with a few painted models and alot of unpainted chaff that you use to play but are just too much of a hassle to ever properly paint.Not pictured and only built and primed with differing stages of having some basecoats on: 30 cadians, 10 kasrkin, 40 kriegsmen, a second rogal dorn, two more leman russ, 10 death riders and artillery team.I am currently painting Yarrick
>>98191113Blah blah blah boo hoo hooSave it for reddit faggot
>>98191136I know a lot of people don’t like reddit here, but this list is so extensive that its best you just read this.https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1opic0h/the_marines_malevolent_separating_fact_from_fanon/
How many chicken sandwiches does it cost to buy your favorite kit?
>>98191292How deep is this shelf? Is it 30cm? Or 40?
>>98191317My favourite kits tend to be around $65 so it would be about 14 McChickens
>>98191153Tasteful femarines, noice.>>98191155>I don't get because conceptwise they are just tacticals but boring.That's really it. It's tacticals but they all have bolters (and pistols), sgt included.>why?So GW has an easier time. That's also why we went from>10 men, customizable with special weapons + sgt funsies (banner & melee weapons)to>2x the same 5 man sprueBut hey, I'll say that the swappable magazine thing is fun.
>>98191322It's the 28cm deep billy case
>>98191338>Tasteful>FemarinesNo, they're gay lorerape dogshit to rightfully be shunned. If you want women in power armour SoB already exist.
>>98191356Hey, I got one of those for my models only a week ago. I put the glass shelves/doors on it.
>>98191153>Sisters of PurificationAre they the ones from that one magazine?
>>98191356Thanks. I was looking at the Billy options myself, and they have that one, and a deeper version and i was wondering if the 28cm might be not deep enough. But it seems to be fine for miniature display purposes.
>>98191117Nigga every entertainment industry except vidya and streaming is on crutches because everyone under 35 has no money If I didn't hit the lottery with a government gig out of the Navy, I would have dropped painting years ago
>>98191338Easier time about what? They keep making tactical style kits for other armies. There's nothing complicated about them.
Still working on this squad but the baby refuses to sleep until 10pm this week so no time to paint.
>>98191360I said these were tastefully done, not that they made 40k better or even fit. You're barking at the wrong tree.>>98191380>easier time about what?It's easier to make a 5x man sprue with no extra weapons and shove 2 in a box than to make multiple different sprues with options where every bit is supposed to fit with the rest of the range.>they keep making tactical style kits for other armiesDo they? I'm genuinely curious, the last ones I can think of were the tau fire warriors & TS rubrics, which were like more than a decade ago?
>>98191384Looking real nice anon, good work.I hope your bab managed to calm down soon and you can both get better rest
>hazardous is now failed on a roll of 1-2>stacking multiple hazardous keywords in dread mob increases it to 1-3i guess we just stack strats, always push them and choose the button buff instead of rolling for it and just blow ourselves up
>>98189657>TQ/mydudes/ are patrolling the fringes of the Eye of Terror, looking for Chaos to killSome of them also helped the Blood Angels with their bug infestation
>>98189657
Hellblasters?
>>98191393Hearthkyn warriors, kriegs, kasrkin, loads of squads from kill team and tons of updated units that not only still work like that but got even more options with the updates.
>>98191408Squatted.
>>98191408more like gayblasters amirite
>>98191364>>98191370I couldn't reply to you because the system keeps telling me my post is spam, why does this website keep getting worse?Anyways, it's big enough for the codices, books and models, I added magnetic sheets to secure the magnetized models because the shelf is on hinges and acts as a door.
>>98191411If you mean weapon option wise, then yeah these are on the same page as the tactical squad.If you mean building/assembly, then these are closert to intercessors.I guess that since GW produces a lot more space marines they wanted that range to be even simpler.
3rd ed necronsshould I take 2 squads of 3 wraiths? one squad of 6 waiths? or 3 wraiths and a billion scarabs?my list is only 1k for a small game (re-learning it) and so far I got>Necron Lord (phase shifter, gaze of flame)>10x Warriors>10x Warriors>5x Immortals>6x Flayed Ones>and the previously mentioned 2x 3 wraithscomes to 999pts currently
>>98191428>If you mean building/assembly, then these are closert to intercessors.But that's the vast majority of kits ever. Marines with separate torsos are an exception, not how the average kit was built. Hell most kits outside of the basic troops have always been monopose metal blisters.
>>981914313 wraiths and some destroyers
>>98191454unfortunately I don't own any destroyers, although it IS a good idea
>>98191431 Used to phase out my friends 3rd necrons with two 72in large blast ap3 defilers. good times
>>98191367They are, this was 3rd party material from Game Designers' Workshop (similar name I know)One thing that pisses me off is when people, mostly screeching basedboys, then use this as evidence of canon female marines lel
>>98191449>vast majority of kits everI think that's a bit disingenuous. Yeah plastic kits started as troops and marines, but separate torso was the standard. Metal models are a different story, and frankly point at a certain regression in some parts.So to answer the original question if "how is it easier for GW"; making full multipart asks for more design time and work, and why we don't see separate torsos much anymore, if at all.As to why marines lost their extra weapons, it's likely because they are the most produced and so cutting costs increase the margin significantly.You can also look at necrons, nids and soon orks, whose base kit is still the same sprue as their starter box, with an extra sprue thrown in (bar necrons iirc). It's cheaper.
Is it true that Space Marines lose their dick and balls in the process of becoming Space Marines?
>>98191514>basedboysWhat the hell is a basedboy? New Ork unit?
>>98191523HH explicitly confirmed they keep them which was amusing
>>98191523? No. They just lose their sex drive and go sterile. They probably get literal murderboners during combat but that’s it.
>>98191523They are completely sterilized and rendered entirely asexual through a combination of heavy genetic manipulation and brutal psychological programming
space marines are just roided up dudes, the rest is weird internet memes with no basis in the actual lore
Your chapter recruits young boys? WeirdMy chapter recruits feral techno barbarians. Pussy.
I know the 41st millenium is a shitshow, but I always find it funny when a Space Marine's backstory is that he was promoted to an officer in the local PDF at the age of 8-12 or something before he got recruited
>>98191542Yeah, the roids is why they can spit acid and why they can see somebodies memories by tasting their flesh
just finished* this big mek. he’s part of a group of oddboyz who’ve decided they don’t need to be bossed around by orks dumber than them, so now they sell their services independently. would anyone have any recommendations for names/symbols for the tribe? I’m reading the freebooterz book for inspiration, but its all evil sunz banners and there’s no example names given.*will have to fix up some of the messy highlights and put some more terrain paste down when I get home
>new starter box barely out>PAINT BOX FAST! Videos on YTPre-painted minis can't come any sooner.
>>98191524it's what an ork with a flu calls beast boys>besdboys
>>98191542Even if that were right, which it isn't, why would you want them to be just generic soldier men except bigger?The bizarre or downright psychotic parts of marines, the imperium and the setting at large are what make it interesting.
>>98191558>symbolTwo ork hands in a bro handshake/arm wresting.
>Watch out, brother, the sisters of battle are on that day of the month.
>>98191546that's a young boy there, 12 years old
>>98191558Painboyz wivout bordahs
>>98191546Anon, that's a 10-year-old boy, Just look at his small, thin beard.
>>98191546Young MEN.
>>98191558Morks foreign legion Knowlton's GitzI like the pink anon, looks good
>>98191573Now replace that space marine with a grey knight. Not very funny now is it?I kinda like the idea that Grey knights are only immune to chaos due to continually conducting cleansing and purification rituals. Now them have fallen because they never slack in their rituals not plot magic. Using SoB blood to purify yourself is peak 40k and if Grey Knights shouldn't do it, some other imperial factions should. Inquistors seem a good choice, they have the power to have Sobs put too death and are at risk of falling to chaos
>looking through Ork faction pack>Gargantuan squiggoth datasheet in the same section as the wartrakk, dakkarig, and other new additions to Ork lineup from 11th box instead of in the legends datasheet sectionSo uh, is the gargantuan squiggoth getting a plastic model or something? Is this just a mistake?
>>98191598>Morks foreign legionGorks foreign boyz known to arch enemies of Morks foreign ladz, or perhaps they are the same groups
Imperium faction packs today boys. What are we expecting to be the hot new shit?
>>98191609Yes, squiggoth, waround, bright stallion, thunderhawk, all in plastic!
>>98191517Many older kits like boyz or the old cadians has split legs and torsos but they weren't really posable. Some like eldar didn't even have that. The vast majority of WHFB kits didn't either. But in any case my point was about the the concept of units being 5-10 dudes with 1-2 special guns per 5 being all over the game even in newer units so all the people argueing that tacticals need to disappear because they work like that make no sense. And what baffles me is seeing people defend intercessors for some reason when they offer nothing tacticals do better in either 40k or 30k.
>>98191620metahumans
>>98191620Imperium Guard with a sentinel detachment that brings them back to 3 per unit. 18 sentinel army here we come
>>98191609>Rokkit launchas have differenr stats depending on the unitI fucking hate AoS and all it has influenced.
>>98191626Blame war machine new fag. Also that’s just a general issue of Killteam.
>>98191611>or perhaps they are the same groupsThe galaxy may never know
>>98191629It stems from AoS making warscrolls as a standalone and separate pack of rules for a specific unit forcing weapons to become a trait of the unit instead of a modular piece of wargear that units can select. In 10th they made it even worse by moving weapon skill, ballistic skill and attacks to the weapon itself instead of the model.
>>98191399I don't understand what GW is thinking with hazardous. Why should it be so much more punishing on Vehicles than on infantry?
>>98191623The split wasn't just about pose, it was easy of building and to allow for extra bits/upgrades. The vraks militia from FW use the base cadians, to name one.>eldarThere were guardian kits with split torsosFrankly the content of the kits don't matter when you just look at what GW can do and chooses not to. It's a kit of plastic sprue, where they pick the price and how many sprues to put into a box, it's indefensible that we don't have fully customizable kits. It's a choice.As to fanboys & other types of retards who just want bigger marines with as little option as possible because it's just a gamepiece for their combofag list that they might not even paint to begin with, I understand being baffled. People are weird and not in a good way.
>>98191558Euwrekka klan
>>98191642because vehicles have more wounds, yah numbskull. I'm not going to think twice about popping hazardous on my vehicle if it has 14 wounds but only deals 1 damage.
>>98191642I don't understand why they made hazardous more punishing to 1W armies that rely on transports, and then made transports for hazardous rolls for both combat and emergency disembarkation. Transports are now super deadly for the factions that depend on them most.
>>98191646>nuclear brainLove this
