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Why is hedgefag such a flaming homosexual

>>98201276
It's that time of the year...

>>98201258
vampire on vampire public hand holding

>>98201276
Im not hedgefag, im bakeslave.

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Someone recommended Darkest Dungeon earlier, specifically the Crimson Court missions.
7/10 good game but not very WoD whatsoever. Fanatic was cool, Im picturing him as a low humanity Imbued with stupid amounts of true faith (plot armor)

>>98201258
Another player went into length as to how his character "seduced" teenage boys around the neighborhood and used them as blood dolls and thralls, in detail.

>>98201258
In the VtM game I ran I had a friendly NPC Tzimisce who had a family of ghouls living in a house above his lair. He fleshcrafted the wife to have all her pain nerves reversed wired into pleasure centres for her upcoming child birth. She had an organismic time bringing her child into the world.

>>98201335
You just started and are already doing crimson court?
Anyway 4 crusaders is always the best team setup

The more I look at Chymerstry the more superfluous it feels and the more certain I become that it should've been folded into Obfuscate.

>>98201338
Was it the homosexual Tremere fag who posts here?

>>98201335
DD is a good game but it's not similar to WoD at all. Fun fact, the guy that designed Abomination is a WtA and Beast fan, but other than that not much
Though I played a very modded game and I had I think 106 different characters in my barracks so my perception isn't accurate on it

>>98201403
No Ive been playing for a few weeks.
Ive heard humorous and horrifying things about 4 Lepers
>>98201448
I agree, its not close in tone or gameplay. to be honest its more OSR than anything else

>>98201258
>tq
i already told the story on here but i was once employed at a workplace where we had a lot of freetime while code was computing so we been playing trpgs and one guy wanted to try running princess

two guys asked if they could rape teenagers and one got fired (the other one quit) for showing their powerlevel so blatantly and without shame

>>98201425
No.

>>98201403
>>98201502
Leper damage is pretty crazy but I always found the guy too restrictive to properly run a setup of him compared to Crusader having both repositioning, buffs, and good damage

>>98201335
No clue why someone would recommend DD in relation to WoD, it's got way more Lovecraft and Warhammer Fantasy inspiration than anything else.

Good game though, excellent atmosphere, in some ways it's fun in spite of itself.

>>98201335
Torchbearer and bits of CoC if you believe Redhook they never played warhammer

still not really wod related tho

>>98201411
It's pretty clear that some antedeluvians just copied caines homework to make their clan-discipline. Serpentis being egypt-flavored Protean is another example.

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>>98201258
red talon seeing chocolate for the first time

>>98201502
Leper's alright. I haven't used him much in my latest run but he's good at what he does.The only problem is he can only hit the first two rows and the most dangerous opponents are usually in the back two rows. Maybe pair him up with Bounty Hunter. Or two Bounty Hunters. The Bounty Hunter is quite good

>>98201411
Hey, now that’s a skill issue. Obfuscate is all about getting people, or reality, to ignore or hide (Mask of a Thousand Faces) something. Chimerstry is all about weaving illusions to manipulate people. You aren’t hiding anything per se, but you’re showing people exactly what you want them to see. In fact, Chimerstry is all about making people see something they can’t ignore.
>Obfuscate dispels attentions
>Chimerstry draws attentions

>>98201258
And they say CofD isn’t the gameline for faggots.

>>98201914
Trannies, the word you’re looking for is trannies.
>vampire media for ruthless bisexuals = good
>vampire media produced by soulless trannies = shit

>>98201999
>trips of destiny
The site has spoken

>>98201914
99% sure all of WoD has occasionally support for extremely degenerate nonsense. I don't think you're supposed to look at this and go "wow, this vampire sure is such a gay icon" and more like "Wow, this guy's not entirely well and these blood orgies seem kind of disgusting"

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>>98201766
Nonsense! Set is the real fist vampire, and the myth of Caine and Abel is just a bastardized retelling of the story of Set slaying Osiris!

Setting my bias and in character views aside, I feel like Serpentis is very.... gamey? It's a discipline designed to give a social character with no physical disciplines some combat ability.
>Serpentis 1: Specialized Dominate (hold still while I stake you).
>Serpentis 2: Specialized Protean weapon/blood suck (no agg damage = sad).
>Serpentis 3: Protean/Fortitude hyper armor (fire and sunlight still = very bad).
>Serpentis 4: I am big snek!
>Serpentis 5: We be Vicissitude now! Kali Ma Shakti de!!

I'm trying to write a Lasombra character ATM for a Sabbat game. I'm struggling specifically to write a guy who isn't "Ventrue but le ebil!"

>>98202317
Do you need him to be anything else? You could lean into the pirate heritage by making him a ruthless corporate raider type. Comes in, takes over struggling companies, and liquidates all their assets for "loot and plunder."

>>98202317
Punished Zoolander

>>98202317
Make him a poor guy from a poor family who's upbringing was shit and taught him that might makes right and nothing matters if you dont have the power to enforce your will on others. Turned him into a ruthless power player who was willing to say and do anything to get ahead of others and have the power to not be beaten again and to instead inflict that pain on others (I suffered, why shouldn’t they?) Be someone who's trauma has warped them into the kind of person the Lasombra would embrace and like the vibe of. Someone who wants to be the king of the jungle.

>>98202317
>I'm struggling specifically to write a guy who isn't "Ventrue but le ebil!"

Lasombra fall into that trap when you think about normal, conventional, "human" methods and strategies to gain power, influence, prestige, etc. Ventrue are already plenty evil, but they're a familiar evil. They want to rule, control, and be obeyed. How they do that, and what they do with it is highly variable, but that's their core. They come off as "not that bad" when compared to their rivals because they can usually be reasoned with and it's not that hard to give them what they want.

So you're probably not thinking fucked up enough when it comes to Lasombra. Their comically evil embracing habit exists to break down the psyche of and dehumanize the prospective childe before they're even embraced. Don't think in terms of station and position, think in more basic terms of power. Power doesn't need to be wealth, reputation, and influence. Power can be far cruder "who needs money when I can take whatever I want?" or more esoteric, make them a discipline-oriented witch king. Whereas Ventrue typically view disciplines as a tool to not be used too hastily, especially when mundane charisma can manage, have this guy use disciplines to make a statement. He is beyond human, why would he use pathetic mortal techniques like "persuasion" when he can use Dominate? Efficacy is irrelevant, it's about the principle of the thing.

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>>98202307
>Kali Ma Shakti de
You betrayed Shiva!

>>98201779
I'm not into werewolf much but I read a little about the talons and thought they were cool, only to see they're the tribe of choice for problem players. This has happened to me like four times now where I come into a new setting and unintentionally choose the most OP faction or the one that attracts powergamers and freaks

What is the supernatural doing in the world cup?

If I buy the book to get the PDF can I cancel my pre order afterwards cuz I don't want the full book....

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>>98202602
mechanically red talon woofs suck the most if you have lots of scenes in cities/suburbs which is how 99% of games go. all the powergamers go to mage instead.
they are only a problem if players are the lolrandom kill humans type

>>98202307
>I feel like Serpentis is very.... gamey?
Like many disciplines they have a hard time squeezing 5 powers from the concept. Serpentine had a similar problem where few of the powers feel like a logical progression from the previous one.

>>98202602
>choose the most OP faction
>Red Talons
Anon...

>>98202695
Just use the version that allows them to make any gasoline into a nuke for exactly 1 Gnosis. Ignore how the silver fags should be able to order the entirety of the garou to kill themselves, including the BSDs

>>98202902
Meant for >>98202894
Good god there is no way I'm this fucked up already.

>>98202915
Just blame it on mages, everyone does that when something goes wrong.

>>98202941
Seems fair enough.

>>98202435
>>98202317
Lasombra kinda strike me as perfect when you turn them into Ventrue, but up the Machiavelli reading to a 12

>>98202602
>Tribe of choice for problem players
I'd figure RT are for autistic larpers into the setting and less of a problem player than Glasswalkers or Get

>>98202957
That's because that's their main thing besides shadow bullshit.

>>98202964
(Some) Clans not being overly unique outside of their niche can be good desu, makes sense the leadership clans are similar

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>>98202941
Sometimes you simply need to make your enemies look stupid. You gotta destroy their hearts and their minds.

>>98202962
Gall Walkers are pretentious to an absurd degree and I'm sure the get attract all kind of combat monkeys and Nazi larpers but those don't beg of you to fuck off from most games

>>98202987
It's more about how often you can notice how the writer struggle with making them feel different.
Like the Ventru Agoge and the Lasombra humiliation ritual.

>>98201901
This is cope and you know it.

>>98202957
I've always found the "master manipulator" claims about the Lasombra to be laughable, considering how they're otherwise depicted. Subtle as a brick to the face, with disciplines that scream brute force. Considering how obvious and inelegant they often are in practice, it always read to me (even if it probably wasn't the author's intention) as something the Lasombra like to say about themselves rather than it actually being true. Similar to the Brujah's claims of scholarly roots. Or how the books sometimes pretend anyone would actually fall for the Setites' tricks.

>>98202894
>or the one that attracts powergamers and freaks

I believe the Impergium was a good thing and we should go back to doing it.

>>98203317
Suspension of disbelief is pretty important for rpgs in general, so I can look past the last one

>>98203394
RT bro I'm surprised the Verbena is letting you out of your cage to type on the computer. Must have taken you a while to type that message with your nose

Is there any for VtM vampires to get pregnant?

>>98203413
My dick.

>>98203409
That’s a different wolf, and I haven’t got back in touch with her yet. It’s this computer fetish that can translate wolf language into human text that’s becoming more common lately, most likely thanks to the Utkena invisible moon that gave me my old one

>>98203413
I asked ChatGPT and got some ideas compiled for you:
>Powerful magic — A mage, sorcerer, or other supernatural force could alter a vampire's body or create a mystical pregnancy.
>Vicissitude or other flesh-altering disciplines — Especially in chronicles involving the Tzimisce, body horror and biological impossibilities are common themes.
>Non-stop Babymaking Sex: With enough time and effort, any sufficiently motivated human male can impregnate a vampire. First, you have to rape her. Vampires can’t ovulate unless they’re being forced and mindbroken by a BHC (big human cock). Once you’ve pounded her wet kindred cunt to the breaking point its time to bring out the big guns. Pick her up and slam her on any flat surface (a table is fine, a stone altar is better). Obliterate her pussy. When you’re about to cum, stimulate your nuts to maximize each shot. It may take hundreds or even thousands of loads to finally breathe new life into that dead and dusty womb. While a mile-long mortal gangbang could seal the deal in one night, I’m assuming you want the kid to be yours.
>In that case, you’ll just have to fuck her yourself. All day, all night. Don’t let a single second go to waste. Why are you reading this you fucking retard? Go fuck your hot vamp wife right now. Hurry, GO. Sidenote: The world’s first trillionaire is currently sucking my cock and balls and he’s doing a TERRIBLE job. Hail Satan.

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imagine having a get of fenris ahroun bf and then watching the universe take him away from you because p̶e̶n̶t̶e̶x̶ paradox changed the consensus

>>98203499
That’s why you shouldn’t rely on love potions, anon

Succubus stole my seed. Incubus fucked my vampire wife. My wife is having a demon baby. Garou raided my fridge and fucked the steak. They ate the steak, that’s a rape and murder charge. I shit myself and a ventrue elder pocketed it. “All according to plan, that’s some good shit.” Ancilla fucked a fledgeling, fuck a masquerade violation that’s a minor violation. Kine put his ass in the slammer. Brujah prisoners ruined that ass! Got cornered by a mage in a Barnes & Noble, asked him who Barnes is. That shit’s a paradox, he collapsed on the spot. Saw his ass try to pay for some Rent-A-Girlfriend at the front desk. Opened his wallet, and a gnat flew out, that shit’s a paradox. He collapsed on the spot. Iw walked home. Molested a nosferatu on the way , she committed sewercide. Got my ass demonetized by the technocracy, so I demon-atized their asses. They can possess my body, it ain’t worth shit to me. Got cornered by a garou on the subway, he still had beef. Elder threw shit in his face and saved my ass, that’s what foreshadowing does for a man bitch. Bled out in a graveyard and was asked to leave. I staggered thuggishly and fucking fell down the stairs at a taco bell, landed in the guac.

>>98203467
>Gaia gave you opposable thumbs
>Never use them
Will never understand the RT. It's that not difficult to just not be a wolf for a few minutes.
>>98203499
Just pretend to be a white nationalist, there's plenty of them so that you can keep him but then again, they hate the normies now.

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>>98203509
not my paradigm
>>98203578
by taken away I mean poofed out of existence

>>98203577
Malkavian, Setite, or Baali?

>>98203594
that's clearly a maurader

>>98203413
Mummy orgy. Gender is irrelevant.

>>98202317
What does your character believe in? Do they believe that their vampiric state is a curse, a blessing, what Paths they'd gravitate towards? Would they be a Faithful or consider the Faithful people who buy their own propaganda?

What do they consider power? Power is more than money and favors, although those are power. Power is also being able to scare people into behaving, or being a spiritual leader, or being a magician, or having a power that no one else understands, or...

Lasombra are described as specialists with narrow Attributes, diverse Backgrounds and very disparate Natures and Demeanors. What would those look like for you? Even if you don't have a concept right now, trying to fill those in might spark some ideas.


>>98203317
Meh there's a certain logic to it if you consider it in terms of necessity. They are manipulators like the Ventrue, but unlike the Ventrue they don't get Presence and have a clan weakness that can easily get them identified in public: they can't afford to stroll up in public to wrap someone around their finger.

Thus why some books mention Lasombra making a point to manipulate people from as far as possible, influencing from intermediaries instead of directly. Thus the perception of Ventrue as those who lead from the front while Lasombra lead from the shadows

>>98203584
Going to have to groom another Get Ahroun then

>>98203394
lucifer stop trying to bait the fera into self destructing

>>98203577
>Bled out in a graveyard and was asked to leave
Kek

>>98203598
>Marauder
>Tight with a Ventrue Elder

>>98203413
Yes, they need to either be 14-15th gen or be willing to spend 13 blood every night for 9 months to maintain Corpse in the Monster 5

>>98203731
i don't think that would work. the Gift of Life restricts you to only Fortitude and Auspex meaning you can't use necromancy while under it's effect. meaning you have to first "die" and then do the spell again and that would probably kill the unborn

>>98203734
What if, Tzimisce Fleshcrafted (so you know it's good) womb transplant?

>>98203769
technically possible with 6 dots in Vicissitude but still useless as it would still become undead as soon as you transplant it unto a vampire

>>98203779
What if it's a revenant or ghoul womb?

>>98203801
the moment you use Graft Life to Life on it despite it name it becomes yours and Corrupt Construction (another 6th dot power) only work on living beings and makes them ghouls (or Vozhd rather). I think you are having a wrong view of Vicissitude it's not bio manipulation and it's not coils of the dragons from vtr it's fleshcrafting and for the most part it just allows you to use flesh as clay

now the eldest does get's full bio manipulation because of 10th dot stuff but if you look at what the players get to play with you find that there is nothing about changing nature or turning things alive just bigger monster forms, body horror party tricks and some powers that make fleshcrafting easier. Now biothaumaturgy used to be able to change the nature of your test subjects in 2E but you couldn't use it on yourself and it had no rules making it a pure "mother may i?" kinda power that depended 100% on how much the ST let you get away with (it was in the infamously broken dirty secrets of the black hand book) and revised retconned it into also just making frankenstein monsters

>>98203817
Fair to say regular surgery would be out of the question entirely also

are there any books that talk about what happens when you bring a wraith back to life but the wraith was at the time disconnected from his shadow?

Chuds and foids, I regret to inform you Dracula Flow has been killed in a jewish UFO.

Also, my character's girlfriend got turned into a 5 year old. First mentally by several dementation lobotomy beams, then physically via temporis. Motherfucker kept taking hits for everyone.

>>98203830
if you are really desperate for a kid as a female vampire and Vicissitude 6 is a option then you could use Graft Life to Life to give yourself... a penis and then use the Gift of Life to turn yourself alive for a day and become a father

although if that would result in a dhampir or just a human kid is another question that the books don't really answer because the gift of life as a power is woefully underexplored in and out of universe although given that revenants and dhampir are like 99% the same thing as long as the other mother would be a revenant you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference

I want to add vampires to my call of chtulhu campaign
How compatible is oWoD / CoD lore?
Will it work if I make the original vampire Cain somehow infected by an interdimensional ayylmao vampire as the original source of the "curse"?

>>98203845
eldritch stuff exists in wod and cofd and wod vampires certainly can get lovecraftian enough at a high enough level that you could explain them as being great old one related or something like but if you are just dropping a few wod vampire or even a entire court into your game you don't have to worry about who and what caine is because nobody seen the guy in eight thousand years and nobody seen a antediluvian since the dark ages

cofd vampires don't even have a single shared origin and origins range from: egyptian cult made us to fight a witch king or perhaps we evolved from corpses who gotten possessed by shadow entites (mehkets). perhabs we just raised from unclear graves during ancient greece, but we know that we have something to do with the underworld (nosferatu), something involving demons in Mesopotamia(daeva), made a pact with evil shadow owls (julii), but those origins also don't really matter for the functions all that much, well nosferatu necropoli are sometimes passively warped by too many nosferatu being at one place, with strange altars showing up, animals mutating, ghosts being more common and some even have a door to the underworld but that's a outlier!

that being said malkavians feel like they would be a bitch to encounter in a coc game, the have superhuman insight, turn invisible, are all mad in some way already and can do heavy amount of san damage... that's all before you put them into a lovecraftian cult or something

>>98203845
>How compatible is oWoD / CoD lore?
Didn't Atlantis get got by a squid god who is most definitely not Cthulhu in OwoD?

>>98203920
in wod yeah that's in dark age mage >>98198677

>>98203845
the original book of madness (mage book about evil and mad mages) also tells you that you could port in entites from call of cthulhu into wod if you want to but that they won't say more about them because the books by chaosium already do that

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Anyone got Courts of the Damned? Is the book worth it?

>>98203643
how did mages get the reputation of being werewolf groomers?

why are there so many nerfs in wraith 20? i never seen anyone complain about wraith or risen powergamers so why did they got kneecapped so much?

>>98203467
>It’s this computer fetish that can translate wolf language into human text
Imagine needing m*gic to use a computer, something a literal child can figure out. The real shocker is that you recognized the superior nature of technology, not that it will save you.

>>98203413
There's an STV book, Accursed Heirs, that's right up your alley.

>>98203769
Vicfaggotry is a dead end to having dhampirs unless you're The Eldest, who definitely finds pregnancy pedestrian after the little Dracon MPREG shenanigans.

Vykos has been trying for centuries to get pregnant with transplanted wombs and all have been failures.

>>98203845
Both Masquerade and Requiem vamps might not be the best fit for Lovecraft, but honestly, if you think it'd be cool, yeah go ahead.

>>98204326
Because nobody actually plays wraith, so nobody noticed.

>>98203837
Dicks out of Dracula Flow. This shit was nothing to him. He walked into darkness, and he let the archangels take him. He'll be back when he's done telling god that he must have amnesia because he forgot that he's him.

>>98204395
oh to be fair I don't want to put them as player options or playable character
just maybe steal some of the lore and or ideas for npcs
i like for example the idea of the bloodlines of Cain

>>98204165
>August 2026

>>98204634
There was a notice that the PDF got released yesterday with the book preorder, so it's available that way.

>>98204259
Because of how they can fuck with their spirits, biology, and minds. So by all reasonable metrics there's at least one race of actual dog boys and girls serving a mage somewhere in a horizon realm.

>>98204808
could they mess with mokolé similarly?

>>98204824
This shit applies to all of the changing breeds but the woods are the only ones with an actual mundane example of what their animal counterpart would be like.
The mokole would be the hardest one to alter given their genetic memory but where there is a will there is a way.

>>98203845
Nosferatu in Requiem possibly come from the hollow earth where they had dread temple cities in the service of Cthulhu-adjacent terrors in the caverns. That's a solid start for you.

>>98204259
Werewolves have a reputation for being the most powerful splat straight out of character creation, so magefags get to flex by talking about how mages with Life 5 Mind 5 Spirit 5 can turn any werewolf into a pretzel without breaking a sweat.

Just like how 90% of the posts made by CofD magefags were all about how any mage with Fate 5 Mind 5 could totally make any of the True Fae his personal bitch, just because True Fae had a reputation for being some of the most powerful and interesting antagonists in CofD.

It's just dick-measuring stuff.

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>>98201502
Speaking of VTM/OSR, this is an OSR adjacent game. Any anons play this? I personally love it.

>>98204259
>>98204876
Honestly anons I just thought it would be a funny comment, mainly since I couldn't feasibly see the Get in a relationship with a wizard (blame Paradox).

>>98203817
>biothaumaturgy
That thaum path made a comback in V20, which merged the 2nd and revised versions together and fleshed out the rules.
It also nerfed it so that you can't make anything that is both supernatural and human level sapient, only animal level magical monsters like a chimera or slightly above average humans.

>>98204259
Mages could do their job but better and that's not even a joke.

>>98204259
V*rbena (white women) fuck dogs. It's a fact of life, Anon. While they're busy engaging in beastiality and other anti-consensus behavior, proper Scientists are figuring out ways to turn your average mutt into a disposable suicide assasin.

>>98205051
Have to twinkify them before you turn them into suicide bombers though

i thought bastet had been established as the mage pet fera?

>>98205111
I think you have the dynamic backwards

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>>98205124
no Ascension's Right Hand firmly establishes that bastets are common mage "consors" and even gives a list for which tradition has which cat girl tribe and features art like this

not even kidding it's one of goat boy's book so it needs to be weirdly horny and furry adjacent

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Who would Elon Musk be in the World of Darkness: a member of Technocratic Union? a ghoul of powerful Venture, CEO of Pentex?

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Is this the average Giovanni mother and son bonding?

>>98205260
canonically his stand in is a nephantus, but realistically he should just be human as he is way too public to be supernatural

I see we're in the low effort conversation starter phase of the thread.

>>98205264
parentsXkids and sibblings are actually discouraged by the clan, too many gene defects in the familly already

so most of them are "only" cousin fuckers

>>98205073
They're not supposed to fuck their target to death. We leave diseases and hyper STDs to the Progenitors.

>>98205260
Based on his IRL capabilities and disposition? Likely some Ventrue's extremely low-ranking ghou. If you want a Pentex guy or a Nephandus, you've got Rockefeller or any Rothschild, respectively.

>>98205264
>the mothers bonding with their children
lmao no

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>>98205276

Probably doesn't stop them from casually dicking around.

>>98205260
I'd say that he'd definitely be an unwitting member of the Technocratic Union. Possibly entirely unawakened, but it is also possible that he's awakened in the technocratic sense of being a "genius" but without acting upon the world as a Mage or even recognizing magic as valid. He's genuinely a key player in the technocratic paradigm at this point, whether you like him or not.

>>98205221
Am I supposed to believe this isn't based?

Is having a fixer as a newbie Lasombra a good idea? How do I make him more interesting?

Hunter: the Vigil has so many underappreciated Compacts and Conspiracies. Such as the Faithful of Shulpae, who ritually devour the bodies of monsters (specializing in mummies) in order to absorb their power. Interestingly the frame the act as one of respect and reverence, a way to commune with and become closer to the divine. They claim to be an ancient tradition, passed down since the dawn of civilization.

Or the Knights of Saint Adrian, who are not an ancient knightly order but in fact a group of hunters posing as a private detective agency. They have "holy" tattoos granted to them by an angel which can provide them with some nasty effects, like never running out of bullets, or the ability to punch a monster out of a supernatural disguise. It's a shame I haven't gotten to use most of these guys.

>>98205669
Oh, where to start?

>Night Watch
"Git yo undead ass off muh block befo' muh bois stomp out yo muhfuckin' fangs you bloodsuckin' muthaFUCKA!" *blap blap blap*

>The Union
"Ah sell propayne 'n propayne accessories, 'n Ahm gonna use 'em t'burn yer unholy vampire ass inta a crisp."

>The Illuminated Brotherhood
DUDEWEEDLMAOWHOAISEEDEADPEOPLE

>Keepers of the Source
"Duuuuuuude, like, mellow out maaaaaaaaaaaan, quit stealing Mother Earth's lifeforce or I carbomb your ass, maaaaaaaaaaaaan...

>Utopia Now
>literal lolbert occultists dissecting demons possessing buildings to build Techno-Ancapistan

I haven't even gotten into the Conspiracies yet.

>>98205669
Is that a God Machine Angel or a more conventional one? They sound like a lot of fun.

I used the Union in my recent HtV game, it was set in the UK so I rebranded them as the Jacks (get it?). They feel very much like the face of the Vigil, regular men and women doing what they have to do.

>>98205913
God-Machine. The easy tell is being able to punch monsters out of disguise, because Unchained love their privacy and anonymity.

>>98205264
>Giovanni
The worst of the Vampires.

>>98205980
Makes sense. Picturing some Demon getting socked in the jaw by a Hunter and having to go Loud to escape when the Angel shows up is a very funny visual.

>>98205988
As much as I love the Giovanni as a meme (Ay Tony but vampires is great to me) I do get that they are very one note and uninteresting. How would you go about fixing them and making them a more interesting independent clan?

>>98206022
>How would you go about fixing them and making them a more interesting independent clan?
Just use more than one of their subfactions at a time.

>>98205988
Nah the Bruhja are still a thing and a net negative for the game.

>>98204884
anything interesting about it?

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>>98204960
I like to image that Giselle in the Book of Hungry Names hatefucked at least one of the Fenris. She seems nutty enough and would probably do it just to keep them around her.

>>98205715
Yeah the Compacts can get glanced over due to a lack of flashy powers but they have their own flavors of fun, and not just the oft-memed Ashwood Abbey. I should make a meme image for the Long Night, if for no other reason than the part of Spirit Slayers claiming they sometimes capture and brainwash werewolves.

>>98205913
God Machine if you're sticking to CofD canon, but it's Hunter: the Vigil, you're allowed to play with things.

>I used the Union in my recent HtV game, it was set in the UK so I rebranded them as the Jacks (get it?).
Fair enough, I imagine they have a good amount of abroad equivalents since they've got a pretty "normal" shtick.

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>>98205260
Anything could be wearing this man's skin, but somehow I doubt it's a person.

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>>98206022
I feel like one's gotta look into their lore, canon NPCs, and the events of the Giovanni Chronicles for interesting stuff, even if their main suits stereotype is done better by Ventrue or Lasombra. Plenty of fun there.

Ravnos however are a shit concept and have shit lore where the coolest thing they did is get killed and I ask to be convinced otherwise. Worst clan.

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>>98202307
Im getting a Bible Black vibe
How does she feel about anal?

>>98206964
It's hardly a defense of the clan as a whole but I played with a dude who played the "compelled to a certain vice" Ravnos curse incredibly well. He was a gold standard psycho scumbag, all while bucking the mystic gypsy stereotype entirely. The man had zero dignity or shame but wanted to be respected. Also such a monstrous fuck he actually hit 0 humanity and went feral.

>>98206957
Namtaru Collector.

>Make sexy vampires and monsters.
>Make sex always be evil in your setting with tons of rape.

I understand now why World of Darkness failed so hard.

>>98206964
>Ravnos however are a shit concept and have shit lore where the coolest thing they did is get killed and I ask to be convinced otherwise. Worst clan.
Their powers were the only thing that kept them from being worthless, and even then it was written like shit because of the Willpower cost.
Their existence also killed a lot of vampire lore tied to India because in the writers minds, that's just where the Ravnos come from and basically nothing else.

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What clan has the most twinks?

>>98207339
Toreador because who else? On a broader note, what does an Appearance 5 vampire from each clan look like? As in, what kind of aesthetic would they gravitate towards?

>>98202475
Silly Doctor Jones. Shiva is Set, and I am a very devout Theophidian.

>>98206974
She is most certainly doing a lot of fucked up Bible Black level stuff with her herd of students. Anything to corrupt them into the service of Set. So the better question is: how do you feel about anal anon? :p

Shark here. Imma summarize today’s game:
>Clio, our Daughter of Cacophony, is finally back after weeks of computer issues
>She has joined the Nazi anime girls Sabbat pack, also got the position of Harpy/Chancellor
>People respects her authority because she has Shark at her beck and call, better listen to her or you get your soul munched on
>Mathilda, the teenage Tzimisce girl-failure was beaten up by her sire and his pack of vampire prostitutes. All because she managed to fail her singular mission… get creampied by an 80+ year old man for years until she can snatch his fortune
>Unfortunately for her the Malkavian primogen played a little prank call “Mindfuck your Shark bodyguard into killing everyone”, not only did she edged Shark for a while before the deed was done… but she also wiped out Mathilda’s mind so everyone thought that it was 100% her fault
>Ansel the Giovanni and SS extraordinary retreated to his clan’s compound. Though a new member joined our coterie. A Lasombra named Catalina. She’s a boss bitch that can dominate almost everyone and also spawn tentacles made of shadow
>Shark… well he just killed a lot more of people. He’s at 2965 victims devoured. He only needs 35 more and he will unlock his next stage of evolution. ST insinuated that if Shark wants to successfully diablerize methusalahs then he would need to ramp up his carnage and stack more evolution points.

>>98207418
>So we began today’s game with everyone meeting at Elysium, it’s been four years since we last seen each other for some of us
>While discussing about when we last seen one another Shark revealed to the coterie how the Dommy Mommy Malkavian primogen mindraped him and made Mathilda’s mission fail. Also he revealed how Mathilda almost met final death facing three owls. Not even ghouled owls… just regular birds
>So our tzimisce was dealing with her nightly humiliation ritual
>We also familiarize ourselves with Catalina. Turns out that corrupting people is her path of life, and Shark indulging in his savagery is exactly her shit
>Shark is a very friendly good boy
>Also during discussions he surprised everyone with all the knowledge he has. People are so used to him being a savage beast that they all fail to realize that he got quite a strategic mind and is well versed in many subjects
>So the new “Prince”, the Malpais (Lasombra elder), Grigori Rasputin (old clan Tzimisce elder) and Himmler (ghoul?) brought us together to give us our new mission.
>10-20 vampires, including our coterie, as well as 1000 nazi soldiers will be sent to Cairo to recover the body of Anubis. The fourth gen Cappadocian/Settite elder.
>He has been in the hands of the Assamites for centuries, but they have yet to find a way to destroy or diablerise him.
>We have to plunder their headquarters and take him back with us to Germany
>While also dealing with the Settites that wants their god back
>As well as garous (and other feras) wanting to kill that abomination

>>98207462
>So we are at our first night inside a cruise ship sailing towards Cairo
>We all hung out at the ballroom, there are easily 200-300+ people
>Everyone rolled for perception and Shark rolled way better than everyone else with 5 successes
>So he recognizes many familiar faces among the crowd
>The first was Johnny, an Irish-American Malkavian who is part of the American mob. He was one of the original members of our coterie but the player hasn’t shown up after our very first game. Johnny was playing cards with other members of the mob
>With her tongue real deep down the captain’s throat was Asenath. She was a Settite on the Path of Pleasures (or their clan version of it). Also a member of the coterie, a later addition but their player left months ago because of scheduling conflicts
>There was also Habath, an Assamite revenant who serves as liaison for the whole clan in our city. He was surrounded by 10 guards at least. Well, those who we can see probably. From my successes I gathered that the guy showed up to flex on us, and tell our guys that he and his clan could kill us anytime once we disembark
>The ST told us that it was our last chance to socialize with different parties or our Sabbath colleagues. Like a warning you get before starting the last story mission in Fallout NV.
>Almost everyone went to Johnny’s table

>>98207529
>So Clio and Mathilda both wanted to play and socialize with the Irish mobsters (Shark botched his aura perception roll and thought that the mobsters Johnny hung out with were Garous, so he stayed clear of them)
>Issue is that the o enter the game you have to deposit 2500 US $
>We’re in 1933, so it’s roughly equivalent to 64K $ of today’s money
>Clio immediately dropped out, but Mathilda still insisted on playing… despite being the most broke ass nigga of the coterie
>Hell, Shark who’s single dot of resources is solely taken from the pockets of his victims has more cash than the teenage prostitute
>The mafiaso offered Mathilda to put her body on the line for entry fee, but if she loses she’d have to sleep with them for more than a single night
>So here comes Catalina. Ansel/Catalina’s player made this character solely to guide Mathilda… and corrupt her ass into becoming proper Sabbat because that girl is failing hard. She would have never got past shovel head rank if it wasn’t for Shark and Ansel (mostly Shark doing almost all the Sabbat related heavy lifting)
>The new Lasombra friend told Mathilda that she can lend her money, but she’d own her ass for the night
>Mathilda blindly accepted, but she lost so much time arguing and tripping over her own ideas that Johnny and his pals left
>Even if she didn’t lost any cash, she still owed her ass to the Lasombra

>>98207418
>>98207462
>>98207529
>>98207589
Thanks for the game story!

>So Catalina dragged the underage Tzimisce to her quarters
>And Clio went to hers
>The daughter of Cacophony played with one of the rats count Orlock lent her.
>Count Orlock is “technically” Shark’s sire. Only in the sense that his vitae was used to make the ritual to create Shark
>Clio a while back became music besties with Shark’s daddy
>Turns out that he was a beautiful and talented musician, supposed to be embraced by a Toreador, but some Nosferatu did a bit of trolling
>So Clio found out that Orlock could still project him mind into his critter even if there was miles separating them
>Still avid of gossip Orlock had the rat spy in Catalina’s room, which was VERY LOUD
>The two ladies were in a hardcore BDSM session
>The Lasombra was forcing the Tzimisce to eat her out, while also beating the fiend mercilessly and swinging her hips without concern for the poor teenager
>She fucked Mathilda until she got 7 boxes of bashing damage and she fell unconscious
>When the adolescent woke up Catalina gripped her face and made some things clear
>She is in charge
>She is in control
>She owns Mathilda’s ass not just tonight, but for as long as she’s there
>She’ll educate Mathilda as violently as possible so she can finally act like the goddamn Sabbat
>She then ask if the teenager understood who’s in charge
>Mathilda took a second to put her thoughts in order, one second too much
>She got pimp slapped
>”Do you understand who’s in charge, bitch?”
>Mathilda immediately nods in agreement
>”Good, you better remember that. Bitch. Because tonight I went easy on you without using any potence”
>She then threw Mathilda out of her cabin without her clothes, on her own to find her way back under the gaze of many
>So Mathilda got a new reputation of lesbian power bottom prostitute as well as abuse magnet
>ST added that in retrospect being gangbanged and probably having to sell herself to the Irish Mafia would have been less humiliating and painful

>>98204259
Never ask an immortal archmage what he was doing during the Impergium

>>98206827
That's an entertaining thought but I thought she was a Chorister or something? Hard to tell because her spiel was so layered in schizophrenic nonsense that I could feasibly get both Verbena and Chorister from her

>>98207708
Kek, this reads like some insanely kinky ERP of more than one person's fetish

>>98207708
>So while Mathilda was forced to run naked to her own cabin in front of a crowd, Shark was lost in thoughts outside
>He wasn’t alone for long
>The White Howler, the namesake and founder of the werewolf tribe, appeared in spirit form in front of him
>WH has been banished from his body when Anubis took it from him. WH had no recollection of it and the coterie elected not to tell him the truth because 1) It makes him help the group for free 2) We weren’t sure if we wanted to ally ourselves with him or Anubis… or fuck everyone and everything over
>White Howler said to Shark that he hasn’t spoken to the group for years now because he has been observing them. Learning
>Now he feels himself slowly gaining more and more in power
>He asked Shark if he would be open to listen to his proposal
>He said that he has studied Shark, and while kindred are creatures of the Wyrm… well Shark’s very being, from his physical body to as deep as his soul, is 110% Wyrm.
>But he believes that Shark has a place in the natural order
>In fact, Shark might be WHAT IS MISSING to restore the balance of the world
>You see, it is set in stone that Shark will transform into an avatar of the Wyrm. But not how the story would end
>Normally, and especially if Anubis is restored, Shark will grow and grow until he consumes the world and ends existence forever
>The White Howler believes that he can empower Shark, turn him into an avatar of the Wyrm, and have him CONSUME THE WYRM
>Shark would then become the Wyrm. The Wyrm of balance
>Shark has honestly no care about saving the world from ending. Especially since he would be the one to end it. Though the idea was interesting
>He could go down his original road and consume everything, and then himself. Having finally satiated his hunger. Or he could preserve the world and thus eat forever, thus being satiated
>Either way, White Howler taking back his body or not, he wins
>So Shark agreed

End

The funniest comment that night is Mathilda saying that she was the Meg Griffin of the group with all the ridicule she went through

>>98207603
You’re welcomed!

>>98207774
While I wasn’t involved and I never share it, my fetish made an appearance
ENF, particularly humiliation based ENF

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Are there any problems with giving sorcerers the Thaumaturgy paths as is?

>>98208320
tome of secrets has rules for it and mentions that mortal kolduns and stuff do exist

mostly it's fine but if a spell needs more than 1 blood point it takes a mortal sorcerer a extra round to cast for each blood point

>>98206955
What are the funniest and/or most unexpectedly interesting Conspiracies?

>>98208320
Yeah they need blood to survive

>>98207348
Assamite, Brujah: athlete
Giovanni, Lasombra, Tremere, Ventrue: socialite
Malkavian, Ravnos, Setite: actor
Toreador, Tzimisce: angel

>>98207212
My guy, wod having heavy rape vibes is why it was one of the only two major ttrpgs that were popular with Women.
People were able to get laid at VTM larps as a regular occurance back in the 90's and early 2000's.

>>98208320
There are rules fpr it in dark ages tome of secrets.

Not sure why you'd bother though. Most aren't as powerful as sorcery paths, they all either use up health or living sacrifices when used by mortals, and it's another xp sink for already xp-starved sorcerers.

>>98207418
Ouh, storytime.
Very nice.

Did you have fun?
Also why didn't you requisition a few disposeables from the concentration camps to use as bloodbags/ghouled suicide bombers on the way? Even a malnourished jew should be able to carry enough tnt to blow up almost everything you should be expected to deal with.

Questions for W20

> Breed form treats silver as mundane material but heals at a natural rate
> Combat Healing heals one non-aggravated health level per turn, no mention of form limitations, it just says the woof heals one level without any conditions.

Does that mean that a lupus build of that kind can just shrug off silver because it deals lethal in breed form, which is healed by the gift superseding the drawback of not having regeneration in breed form?

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Which clan would Thanasis Vagias, who was falsely portrayed as a traitor to his nation who rose as a vampire after his death, be?

After a lot of distractions with assessments I finally finished the Technocracy revised books.
>Progenitors has a recurring problem with dropping their morals in the name of "the greater good" way too quickly and they've been subtly mindfucking the NWO
>Iteration X has zero self-awareness and multiple independent Weaver problems that it doesn't know about
>Syndicate and NWO are gearing up for civil war
>Syndicate are trying to hide that they had a whole methodology go rogue
>they've got both a bunch of dudes LARPing as this methodology and a bunch of guys in charge of hunting down this methodology who weren't told about the LARPers
>NWO accidentally fucked everybody with their programming leaving a backdoor in every agent
>Void Engineers are hanging by a thread and really don't need to have the homefront collapse and delete their budget
Are the Traditions also this much of a clusterfuck 2 seconds from exploding or are the Technocracy special in that regard?

>>98208746
some traditions also have internal issues like the verbanna who lead a entire faction of their tradition into embracing nazim and then become nephanti just to get away from them or the order of hermes house politics or etherites just never agreeing on anything

but the problem with the traditions is more that they are herding cats as in the traditions are not a union like the technocracy but a alliance against the technocracy. so if they would -somehow- win they would Immediately go fight each other to the death next and it also means that their magic and world view aren't as compatible with each other as that of the conventions and everyone thinks that they know the one right way to do magic but that they need these other idiots as canon fooder

>>98208746
>The Celestial Chorus has fragmented with diehard militant Christian orders splintering to join the Knights Templar instead with others becoming their own independent Crafts, as the Chorus focuses on becoming a big-tent Tradition instead.
>Ecstatics are in the middle of a heated debate between fuck-ethics-party-hard traditionalists and Sahajiya reformists focused more on respect for Sleepers and harmony with them.
>Dreamspeakers have modernised and mobilised and relabelled themselves, in an effort to become more independent and less reliant on the other Traditions.
>Euthanatoi are mostly united behind trying to redefine themselves as agents of fate, rather than death cultists and assassins, after the whole Voormas debacle.
>Hermetics are starting from scratch after being almost annihilated and making a more egalitarian order built on mutual interest in magic rather than pursuit of power.
>Etherites have a little infighting between self-absorbed researchers who just want to be left alone to work on their projects, and collectivists who are trying to encourage collaboration.
>Verbena are divided between bloodline enthusiasts who insist on keeping the blood pure, and liberals who have (correctly) identified that it's completely bogus and want to dismantle nepotism in the Tradition.
>Virtual Adepts are split between the Digital Web old guard who want to escape into another dimension, and reality hackers who think that the Tradition should focus on transforming the real world.

Almost all of the Traditions are in the process of getting rid of their old baggage to become more ethical and egalitarian societies, with some infighting with conservatives who refuse to change. They already exploded with the Avatar Storm and its consequences, now they're recovering from that.

>>98208512
Less than usual because my character is a combat monster with 0 social skills (literally), and he didn’t have anything in particular to say to any of the NPCs present. Though it was pretty fun listening to Mathilda’s misadventures.

And we’re in 1933. I’m not sure that there were any camps yet.

>>98209004
>And we’re in 1933. I’m not sure that there were any camps yet.
The camps started very early. Almost immeadiatly after the ,,Machtergreifung". Of course they went after commies, political enemies and actual terrorists first, the general public was unaware that the camps where going to get very full later on.
Weimar left a lot of broken people, despite what revisionist leftists claim. The german civil war of that time is not widely enough known about, but that tangent you can better check on wikipedia because i'm very biased.

>>98208490
What was the other?

>>98208494
>>98208398
Thanks for the advice.

>>98208410
The ET people are funny and the animal control compact make a lot of sense given how many of the spooks have control over those.
Besides those two every other group doesn't really leave much of an impression despite many of them putting a smile on my face. They work fine, I just nothing to say about them.

>>98209041
Well our game mostly dealt with the civil war and the communists invading a few times. It’s very recently that the nazi totally came into power in our game. We supported Hitler way before the nazi party was formed. Shark even has a copy of Mein Kampf. First edition. Among the first 100 prints. He’s waiting for the right time to have it autographed by the funny moustache man. It was hearing this that has taken Clio and Mathilda by surprise. They both didn’t know that Shark could read, and that he was a scholar. (A single dot of Academic lol)

Unfortunately the camps won’t become an all you can eat buffet for Shark until the 40s.

>>98208746 >>98208838
Been out of the loop for a hot second, anything about the Disparates?

>>98209288
I don't care enough about them to cite how each of the Crafts is doing, but it boils down to a divide between giving up on being independent and joining the Traditions, or banding together to work as a unified Disparate Alliance that kind of functions as the Traditions 2.0.

>>98208410
The Lucifuge are a personal favorite of mine. A secret society/cult of demon-blooded people built around one very mysterious woman of the same name, who may be the devil's own daughter. Their endowment, castigation, is one of the most potent in a pinch. My group likes to joke how the power Mark of the Beast is basically a Devil Trigger from Devil May Cry. They're not all cool edgy 2000s fantasies though, they can actually cause a lot of practical problems with their insistence that all demon-blooded must be in the Lucifuge, else they will inevitably lapse into evil, and that the Lucifuge must always have 666 members.

There's also the Cheiron Group, a pharmaceutical company that captures and kills the supernatural to make really ratchet body modifications. Talking grafting a hand of glory to your body, or putting a weird paranormal parasite in your brain stem to make you superhumanly fast. Also, they may or may not be controlled by aliens.

I already mentioned the Faithful of Shulpae and the Knights of Saint Adrian. Possibly the funniest for me is Les Mysteres, a coalition of woo woo spiritual types ranging from Voodoun (probably the biggest influence) to Pentecostals that actively commune with spirits and get powers from them. One power even lets them turn themselves into temp Claimed. Naturally this pisses of Werewolves immensely.

>>98209466
The Ascension war in a nutshell

>>98209466
New Metal Gear plot

>>98207755
She was a Chorister from what I could discern. Her schizo ethnochristfacist nonsense probably was on a similar enough wavelength to the Fenis' ethnogaianfacist nonsense that they could at least work towards some of the same goals for a while and hatefuck each other. Up to the point where her chronic backstabbing took over again.

>>98208746
My poor Iteration X, raped by the NWO and left without their Omnissiah

>>98207418
>>98207462
>>98207529
>>98207589
>>98207708
>>98207807
I'm starting to notice your games are very horny Sharkanon. I tip my dick to you.

>>98209702
>Christcuck Garou
I hate Paradox so much

>>98209802
Those have been a thing for a long long time.

>>98209802
The Inquisition needs to step up their game baka.

beast the primordial LOL

What are some good/interesting cities and regions to run a classic HtR campaign in? US preferred due to easy access to firearms and everyone having a good degree of common knowledge about it, but I'm willing to consider other places as well

I'll be launching a new group soon and at this stage I'm mostly just brainstorming different ideas and campaign concepts before I'll set up a session 0 with them

>>98209802
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>98204385
Well, VWNBAW, therefore it doesnt count

>>98209970
can't go wrong with LA
>https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Los_Angeles_(WOD)
los angeles is demon central in wod and is the only city they got a city book for + got that bloodlines nostalgia for some groups + there is a caren nearby and there is a black spiral pit below griffith park+ near santa monica there is a verbana chantry + it's probably the only place outside of asia where you could get away with featuring kuei jin court as enemies if you want to and it used to be a official Citadel of the Hierarchy meaning that the whole zombie and ghost thing HTR has going on is going to be up to eleven there

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>>98209466
>>98209505
>traditiontard deactivates all nukes because "technology is just like evil, man"
>all Nations invade each other at the same time the next day
>The Technocratic Union restores the nukes and cleans up the mess afterwards
What will traditionerds fuck up next?

>>98209802
Actually hungry names had a Jewish Garou, the only christcucks are bad guys I'm pretty sure

>>98209948
>beast the primordial LOL
Yeah what about it?

>>98210241
Even worse.

>>98209948
Rape is le good actually thougbeit?

What's the difference between Greek Gangrel and City Gangrel?

>>98210378
time for one: the city gangrel evolved out of the greek gangrel. this is also like the meta tragedy of the line as the greek gangrel in their write ups wanted to rejoin the clan and share their history with them while the city gangrel had all of that history replaced or rather destroyed by the sabbat so that the sabbat can claim to have created them as obedient weapons for themselves

gameplay wise the greek gangrel still has animalism while the other one developed celerity

>>98210335
There may have been one skill trainer that was full Christian, but it's hard to tell.
>>98208741
Yeah that should be the case

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WoDg, i am creatively bankrupt. Im trying to come up with a few toreador and brujah focused side quests my players can do but everytime i try to come up with something my brain just shits itself and then rolls around in it.

I had no issue coming up with shit for the tremere, gangrel, or ventrue. I at least have 2 malkavian quests but i have no idea what to do with the toreador... or the brujah that isnt about the brujah being contrarian retards that just want to oppose the status quo.

>>98210468
You’ve internalised memes and allowed them to dictate your perception of clans. Actually read through the clan books instead of letting /wodg/ dictate your views.

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>>98210468
Fold the two into one and have the Toreador capture a Bruhja because they disagree about a story. The rebel trying their best to either kill themselves or escape the city.

>>98210468
>a few toreador
major art theft
murdering a critic for super petty reasons
clear up after a toreador neonate who still wants to be famous ala lestat and make them see the error of their ways
a elder tasks you with smuggling a special guest (toreador antitribu or unseelie sidhe) in and out of the city for a clan salon meeting thing
>brujah
yeah brujah is hard i guess you could go "you poor bastard have to host a rant" or "beat some sense into some retards that make the clan look bad"

>>98210503
>Half nuanced opinion on the thread
YOU FOOL

Is a changeling's fae soul fundamentally any different from a sentient chimera beyond being bound to a human?

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>>98210378
>>98210399
>City Gangrel: Obfuscate, Protean, Celerity
This was designed by a munchkin minmaxer. And Gangrel is my favourite clan.

>got hengeyokai book in mail sooner than expected
>old sticker on the back had it listed for $2
>spent 40
fuggin amazon

>>98210601
i mean it's not that far away from the assamites just claws with agg damage instead of poisoned blades with agg damage

>>98210468
>Toreador and Brujah
Helena and Menele are going at it again.
>or the brujah that isnt about the brujah being contrarian retards that just want to oppose the status quo.
That's literally who they are. Prove me wrong. Path of Entelechy need not apply.

>>98210335
It's OK Giselle points out that you and everyone like you are Jewish (derogatory).

>>98210608
I don't disagree. People always accuse Tremere players of being munchkins but Assamite players getting off scott-free from the label is weird to me. At worst I've heard them be described as edgelords, which in this setting is kind of a meaningless statement.

>>98210938
i think it's really just that the assamites weren't in the camarilla 7 before v5 so nobody cared for their npc asses no matter how often they got reworked

>>98210585
They aren't.

>>98210938
Because people don't typically play Assamites at all, while everyone who plays Tremere always goes in the typical tacticool Strauss-wannabe route.

>>98211153
If you are playing Trememes what the fuck else would you even play? The point is to be as much of an ass as you can get away with because no one can't be bothered to dome the wizard.

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WHO THE FUCK IS PAYING 2K FOR A BOOK

>>98211208
"U" shaped economy.

There are several MtAs 20th books that are missing from the MEGA I:
>The Mage Cookbook
>M20 Technocracy Reloaded (the full official release version)
>The Rich Bastard’s Guide to Magick
>The Operative’s Dossier
>M20 Sorcerer
>M20 Lore of the Traditions
>M20 Faces of Magick
>M20 Forgotten and Forbidden Orders
I happen to have all of these as PDF files. How do I share them?

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>Both
A Toreador wants you to steal a piece for their collection. A Brujah wants you to deface it to send a message to those pricks. Which one will it be?

>Just Toreador
Two different competing artistes are vying for the "position" of being the next Elysium Harpy through an art contest. Sabotage one of their climbs to fame in a way that cannot be traced back to the other. (spread rumors, arrange an accident for their backup dancer ghouls, buy votes, sabotage their businesses)

>Just Brujah
Rumor is a new Brujah in town is taking over all the gangs and no one can beat them in fair combat. Figure out why/get the territories back/teach that asshole a lesson. Secret is he's a True Brujah and is using Temporis to add Za Warudo strikes without anyone noticing. Bonus points for them acting like a racially profiled stereotype of a martial artist.

>>98211234
Meant for
>>98210468
I rack disciprine

>>98211225
the megas aren't ours

there is a wod_v20 r3br4nd trove which despite the name has other wod20 games too that belongs to a anon from the share thread but you would have to ask there where to send them

>>98210468
>The usual ideological infighting that keeps the Brujah from being a dominant clan has suddenly stopped, as one of them has brokered a ceasefire between the city's Brujah sub-factions and they're now collectively working together for their clan's interests. The Prince wants this unifier dealt with.
>A nomadic coterie of Brujah have arrived in town and are doing all of their usual shit, starting fights, threatening the Masquerade, Embracing on a whim and generally being a pain in the Camarilla's neck. The Prince wants them dealt with.
>The Sheriff is pissed off that some of the local Brujah have been taking justice into their own hands and even worse, they've been very effective at it. The Sheriff's reputation is on the line, so he wants them to dealt with.
>The city's Toreador Harpy finds herself struggling to hold her ground against a Brujah upstart, who counters all of her high fashion and aesthetic ideals with genuine passion, scathing critique and a novel, refreshing approach to matters of taste. The Harpy wants her dealt with.
>The Brujah are hosting a Rant and Rave that's open for everyone to attend. Think a night at Elysium, but far more raucous and emotionally charged. It's a chance for the players to prove their mettle to the local Brujah and maybe earn some favour with them.

>>98205611
If you want to think Bruccato is based then go right ahead and reach for that rainbow, champ.

>>98206827
What is it with black dudes raping their dads? There's even a short film about it.

>>98206957
Fomori for sure

>>98210930
Why is she such a based hot schizo? And why is she fucking with the Get homos instead of me (and my homos).
Honestly with how loose you can play the packmate romance I'm surprised you can't start a full on polycule with all of them, I can't blame the guy for not catering 1-1 to everyone's gooner sex fantasies but I feel like Giselle was definitely asking for it

>>98211428
She's a good example of how you can make Ascension mages edgy and weird and exciting, in the same way as vampires. Every mage should ideally have a paradigm as fucked up and wild as hers, every mage should deviate from reality in a few key ways that make people mouth 'what the fuck.' And before people say that this is proof that the Technocracy are the good guys, Technocrats embrace and enforce aspects of the status quo to the same mentally ill degree. Mages, no matter the faction, should all be a little fucked in the head.

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>>98211159
I had this idea for a Tremere (originally for V:DA, but VtM is also possible) who started as a ghoul tasked with being both the chantry's janitor/groundskeeper and abductor for humans. Huge guy, an absolute unit, with a moral compass that always firmly points at his own gains. Smarter than others give him credit for, not as smart as he thinks himself to be.
Got embraced so he could also abduct gangrel/nossies for the gargoyle program. Isn't allowed to learn actual sorcery, but tries to compensate by taking sippies from his victims and learning animalism.
I was very happy with this concept. After finishing the sheet I took another look at it and realized: It's just evil vampire Hagrid

>>98211428
Anon she is the kind of person who would slit your throat in your sleep so she could steal the loose change in your pockets, or because her real boyfriend Jesus told her to do it.

>>98211659
>so she could steal the loose change in your pockets
Only if you have złotych, the one true Teutonic currency. All other forms of monies are forms of Satanic corruption intended to lead humanity astray from the wisdom of the Holy Grail.

>>98209795
Hmmm… sex has been more common recently hasn’t it? Before that it was just Dommy Mommy Malkavian primogen fucking the lights out of Ansel. Both for the lols, as she was shamelessly doing it in the middle of Elysium in front of the guests and an exasperated Prince, and so we could get our own pocket elder in case things went south.

I guess that it’s mainly because we have been playing together for months now, around half a year if I’m correct, and we are getting accustomed to each other. We’re less shy about it… well I kinda still am when it’s talking about sex but that’s just me. I’m not shy keeping my character retardedly one note about eating people… though I pride myself in convincing everyone that I will indeed end the world by consuming it. It warms my heart to feel supported.

Since Shark was made in a lab as a form of apex vampire (predator), I was thinking that Shark would have nothing down there. It’s as smooth as a Barbie doll no nipples or bellybutton too. I’m stealing that from Ultimate Kars, with being the Ultimate life form means that it has no need for reproduction to adapt.

>>98211723
She can't have my fistful of złotówek, God (He speaks to me in cryptic dreams because my Faith is True) told me to burn any and all who worship S*tan. Witches must burn.

>>98211884
I'm glad you're having fun Sharkanon. Your game sounds like a riot. I'm a nogames so I envy you.

>>98204488
About that, he got slaughtered by our mage and german magical girl almost instantly. Then the brujah girl diablerized him.

>>98211659
>>98211723
>>98211938
This sounds like a risk worth taking

>>98211946
Well I encourage everyone to try the official Discord server. I got lucky twice and joined two fun campaigns. First one I was a Hobo Batman Caitif, and this one as Shark. Just be on the lookout for games, hope that you schedule fits and give it a try.

Just saw on Steam that Hunter the Reckoning is getting a new game.
Does that mean that we are getting a new edition hopefully with non-dog ass rules?

>>98212071
I wouldn't bet on it.

>>98211590
If only people could have the balls to quote Ted while making characters anon

>>98212071
If we're getting a new edition at all it's starting with Vampire, but no, Deathwish and the new Werewolf game are both still using 5th edition as the default ruleset. I believe the CRPG as well will be using 5th

>>98211616
Noice!

>>98212071
It's all WoD5, make of that what you will

Well, I finished this document finally for my oWoD/CofD hybrid. Had the idea after realizing my magical girl's sister has only fed off her so far, and had some ideas in regards to feeding on Princesses and Imbued.

https://files.catbox.moe/l2hcd1.odt

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>guyz halp my mage wont let me leave their horizon realm and is making me do weird thingz

>>98212368
Are the Verbena magic and petting worth it, "mighty" warrior of Gaia?

>>98212336
Thank you

>>98212426
No problem, hope you enjoy Golconda Lite

>>98212429
As long as you actually flesh the concept you have a better use for them than canon.