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>>98203270
>tfw no wife
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Ok so the contest is on!

Deadline July 14th

Theme is "Death and Immortality"

Go wild anons and don't feel bad if you lose to me
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Elden Ring CYOA opinion poll:
Should I stick to in game and related assets only (A), be willing to bend the rules for on theme assets (B), or radical verisimiltudinal anarchy and just use whatever I like/feel conveys the correct mind image (C).

I'm feeling that B is a good middle ground, but C would save me image lookup time.

If the thread demands I play dress up in elden ring or find the demented people who actually like doing that, then A is there too.
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>>98203396
C because radical versimiltudinal anarchy is a funny phrase
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>>98203396
From the examples you gave A looks hideous so I'd recommend C or a form of B that does not include any A assets. I personally like C the most though, Chaika is cute.
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>>98203396
B is good, it fits and it expresses the character
C is decent, It expresses the charactr but not the world
A is bad. Something this bland is little better then a physical description

B>>C>>>>>>A
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>>98203396
I want to say A bit this image is pretty bad.

I think ingame photos for places, boss's and items is a solid choice.

Maybe if the ingame screenshots of the character was them doing an emote in a location and not just a front shots of them standing still?

Idk

If you go with C I would urge you not to use art of established or well K own characters. Just because it pulls me out of the immersion. A greedy and self centred request to be sure. But is what it is.
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>>98203314
So it begins...
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>>98203396
I like A, but it doesn't really matter to me - I'm mostly posting this because everyone is ragging on it and I think it's a good option. I figure in a CYOA based on an existing game you might as well use the existing assets for consistency and ease of recognition. As a silver lining it might help you reacquaint yourself with certain parts of the lore in playing. A, B, or C will be perfectly fine. I don't know about the majority here but I only care about CYOA images in roughly 1% of cases where they are particularly well chosen. I'm not a stickler for the ACI - still, a high score is often correlated with a good piece of OC
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>>98203396
B > A > Darth Icky > C
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>>98203411
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>>98203424
>>98203447
>>98203480
>>98203556

Alright, since there's no overwhelming consensus, I'll just used my best judgement on a case by case basis, though I'll be mainly sticking to B, then A, and only going to C in emergencies.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.
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>>98203396
B pretty please
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>>98203396
B is going to win and isn't the worst compromise, but I am going to throw in a pity vote for A anyway on the basis that in an ideal world the Elden Ring CYOA would be illustrated just like Elden Ring instead of needing to compromise with a fan artist's style.
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>>98203396
B, the weirdly low contrast yet high vibrancy of A is unpleasant to look at. When it's not being animated.
C is simply irrelevant. After all, if an choice is not in the games to the point that you can't find an example. Then why should it be included?
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>>98203396
B but with no anime faces, semi-realistic only. That's what I'm doing with Ranni's cyoa.
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>>98203396
I'm not going to play this cyoa regardless but if this general votes for C it proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that you're all talentless tasteless brainless prancing lala homofaggots
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Does anyone have the original, with the princess?
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>>98203874
I never finished my build for this since it started feeling too much like a chore.
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>>98203914
I just skipped the mission assignment parts. Too much effort.
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>>98203911
https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqkxagky2
Fun fact the only images saved on the 4plebs archive with the filename scheming princess are that cyoa. I would have thought that at least one other image would have been posted with that filename, but nope.
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/scheming%20princess/
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>>98203911
Thanks for posting this. I completely forgot about this CYOA.
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>>98203950
Fascinating look into the history of cyoag
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Is it better to have a powerful wife/knowledgeable husband combo or vice versa
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>>98204015
Knowledgeable wife, powerful husband
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>>98204015
Better to be independent.
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>>98203911
>The Kingdom
The Highlands
>Disorder
Sadism
>Traits
Stoic, Quick Mind, Big
>Skills
History, Unarmed Combat
>Job
General
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>>98204079
No it isn't.
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>>98203453
>>98203398
Prometheus and Figure in the Mirror are the most OP abilities. You can unlock every spell in existence with these two and a couple of supporting rites.
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cyoa for this feel?
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>>98204149
Apathetic boredom? Some random shitty one-pager waifupicker/pillslop.
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I love waifus
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>>98204129
>Prometheus and Figure in the Mirror are the most OP abilities. You can unlock every spell in existence with these two and a couple of supporting rites.
How are you planning to do that? (You) have to trade a spell to Prometheus to get one, so at best it lets (you) adapt (your) spell arsenal to new challenges.

Figure in the Mirror just creates a new personality/mind, which - at best - knows everything (you) know. And both spells require flashy human sacrifices, which are likely to get (you) noticed by hostiles.
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I haven't checked /cyoag/ for two years. I return to a new thread... And it's mostly just reposts of 3_tankista stuff from 5 years ago.

Have there been no good CYOAs made since then ?
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>>98203911
I didn't even know someone made a male version of the princess one.
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>>98204435
Honestly, no.
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>>98204475
ambrosia semen is always the correct choice btw
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>>98204435
Entropist
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>>98204435
Radiant
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>>98203282
Quiet home girl is the master race
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Rolled 3, 4 = 7 (2d6)

>>98203282
I'll combine these and hope I don't get a butterfly
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>>98204647
Congrats, you got the butterfly. Enjoy the cheating slut that is probably more successful than you.
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>>98204647
Serves you right for greedily sartreing
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>>98203282
Butterfly for me.
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need cyoas with knightess waifus
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>>98204713
entropist
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>>98204713
radiant
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>>98204713
spirit conscript
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>>98204249
With mental integration (a second sin usurpation spell)

>You Start in Australia because there you will be protected from anyone trying to stop you.
>You can then go some outback town and capture a dozen people.
>You will then cast Figure in the mirror to create a blank personality free mind with all your knowlage.
>Trade away all your spells for others with prometheus
>And then cast mental integration to merge your mind with the blank slate to get all your old spells back
>repeat until you have every blood and convent spell in existence.
>Steal the "dejs vu" effect from the girl stuck in australia with me from the sweet dreams mission.
>Use the loop to ascend to godhood as the first sinner
>Use organic order to try and stay sane as the first sinner.
>Go to an empty plane of existence
>Create 50 Million copies of yourself by using Timestep
>Destroy the convention and take over the omiverse

Im probably gonna go mad from this process from knowing too many void spells but fuck it.
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>>98204713
OR
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>>98204820
I wish we got some more info on the wider setting.
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>>98204885
It's really disgusting how much the assignments and side-quests try to force you to bring things back to the status quo.
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>>98204885
The last and his deathseeds are still entropist fodder.
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>>98204967
Yes, thats what stopping villains tends to mean
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>>98204977
He steals powers from this setting's equivalent of Sons. Entropists are his fodder.
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>>98204977
wrong way round, he keeps sons in his (possibly literal) rape dungeon
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>>98204779
You can pretty much do the same thing with only one spell by just using perfect simulation and casting even more perfect simulations within your perfect simulation. Then just manually learn all the other spells. You pretty much have infinite time.

Its a much better idea than trying to fuck around with demons.
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https://poal.me/u9e1gm

https://poal.me/78cg4l

That's right that's my brother at the top of the first one the best Ultimate God in the universe!
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>>98204435
Dungeon delver was good, Tankista has done alot of stuff
Beri posted a pokemon cyoa, it was good,
Pokemon world [Beri]{7 pages}
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97900777/
Thu 16 Apr 2026 23:57:09
danmachi was updated and the rat didn't make a build,
Danmachi[53413760]{6 pages}{Update}
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97599706
Sun 22 Feb 2026 15:19:38
Scottish anon posted a new oc about a low-fantasy hike
The Trail [Scottish Anon]{3 pages}
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97475036/#97477770
Sat 31 Jan 2026 20:12:12
Hyenanon made a starwars franchise thing
Star Wars Warlord: Coven's Nightmare [Hyenanon]{4 pages}
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97967622/#97972194
Thu 30 Apr 2026 21:32:04

There have been polls that list all of the new oc since the start of the year, so You may check them if you want a summary
Polls:
Jan- https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97496786/#97498256
Febuary poll:https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97655023/#97655178
March poll: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97891788/#97895064
April-https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97992388/#97992477
May- https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98148835/#98150019
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I was outside for some time, but >>98167804 , the week is over, is there a fairy oc?
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>>98205379
Nope
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>>98205324
The anon found their voice.
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>>98205324
>Only Mind Gods and Dark Sovereign got someone else to vote for them
The strongest...
Or the only ones with charisma
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>>98204149
>>98204183
Wodanslop
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>>98205557
Softie...
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>>98205384
NTA but dang, I was kind of looking forward to that one. I felt proud of coming up with the name Éclair
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>>98204820
>Radiant
Would be a good CYOA if the Oaths weren't so mean spirited, punishing, and self-righteous. They're not what I'd picture at all for a good guy CYOA.
It's better to work with /cyoag/ anons and help them stay on the path of good, rather then work against them by wrangling them with heavy iron chains.
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>>98205598
new authors can't even finish they cyoas
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I really like the "radiant is mean-spirited" shitposts
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Surely if you have a problem with an oath you could just not take that oath
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https://pastebin.com/6sTRC1Gh

Light of Hope https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98132885
Myriad Self As One Immutable Dao Heart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98132442
Butcher of Argus https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98132619
Alrahvartin: Mad God of Time https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98157881/#98162150
Voidsoul https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98132981
The Wall https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148835/#98149080
Bhuni https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98133416
Drang, He of Inevitability https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98133485
Void Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98168707/#98173360
Wyrdsmith https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98179720/#98181547
Shub-Ishni-Gol https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98135772
Ell-Est-Douaan, He Who Sees https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148835/#98153883
Pathfinder https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98131206/#98136417
The Crafters https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98143559/#98143587
The Golden Overlord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98137719/#98139810
Dark Flame Master https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98137719/#98142501
Ardkorus, The Heart of The World https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148835/#98153978
The Merciful Being https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148835/#98154946
Amika, the Golden Chain that Binds the Ephemeral in Stasis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98162912/#98165626
The Datu of Dimensions https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98162912/#98167716
The Great Sovereign https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98198274/#98199229
Shahar - Dawn Bringer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98168707/#98173261
Persea Rhodes https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98173625/#98176659
Shell, the Least https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98184982/#98189218
Ereban - The Red https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98184982/#98189478
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>>98205694
El - The Sound of Life https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98184982/#98189613
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98184982/#98190991
Eruin, the Wandering Creator https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98192303/#98194484
Red God & Grey God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98192303/#98197034
The Doldrums https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98198274/#98198735
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98198274/#98199628
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>>98205683
The CYOA is balanced around having a very large point pool from the Oaths.
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>>98205722
Okay? So dont take the oaths you have a problem with?
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>>98205629
Radiant only makes sense when you understand the the author doesn't see oaths as a particularly big deal, and you are intended to view them as lenient principles instead of hard rules
This disrupts alot of the target audience of a paladin cyoa, who would die before turning back on their word (Or their ideal self would)
(And this also makes the cyoa comically easy but that doesn't really matter)
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>>98205629
>the Oaths weren't so mean spirited, punishing, and self-righteous.
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>>98205741
>and you are intended to view them as lenient principles instead of hard rules
maybe the CYOA should say that then
trying to wiggle out of the wording of the oaths doesn't seem like it would work
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>>98205629
you probably aren't fit to be a paladin desu
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>>98205781
Yes, that's the issue
That honor enjoyers wouldn't try to wiggle the wording but the author expected you to do so
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>>98205837
you certainly aren't meant to try to rules lawyer the oaths. The point is that you're meant to give them your best shot.
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>>98205885
You are supposed to interpret that "Always be working to actively do good" has provisions to allow you to fuck whores instead of helping the planet
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>>98205379
>>98205598
Ersatzanon here. I'm back from the 7 days vacation from 4chan.

When I went on the vacation, A Fairy Evaluates Your Cooking felt 70% complete. I worked on it a lot while away, and now it's 50% complete since the scope kept expanding. Visuals, companions, a 400 word "You decline" ending.
I'll fiddle with it a few more days, and then I'll try to complete it in 24 hours, and if I fail I'll take another 7 days vacation.

>>98205647
My first cyoa on cyoag was in 2019 IIRC.
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>>98205892
Yeah, in the sense that you don't have to spend 24 hours a day, 364 days a year working.
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>>98205916
cont: Basically treat it like a job. You aren't working all the time but you can't just decide 'nah I don't feel like it today'.
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Elden Ring Devlog 6-14-2026

Have not made the progress I'd hoped, Limgrave is not finished, only 2/8 areas made and the boss has been made for weeks, so if I can do one or two areas per day, it will be done by the end of the week. Upside is that the two most complicated ones were first, since they are there to teach the player A) about companions and allies, and B) that there are non-linear quests. Just saying that I needed to get X page done by the end of the week was too macro of a task to get behind, so I am measuring progress in areas - which as micro tasks I can sit down and get it done in an hour.

Since /CYOAG/ seems fine with me pulling appropriate non-game images for character and such, that frees me to go for some more esoteric options for my pictures, which will be useful later on.
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>>98205916
Yes, the author thinks that "Always" means "Alot of the time"
He's just not a very serious sort
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>>98205922
Hmmm Very nice
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I've realized that 6 proper pages is the minimum for a satisfying build. Any less than that and the CYOA doesn't go from fleeting whim into actual fantasy that stays with you.
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>>98205909
yay you are back i was about to ask
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>>98205916
>>98205919
Is a paladin ever not working? I thought it's a lifestyle rather than just a job.
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>>98205922
Brother dont ever go for C type images or i will hunt you down. B > A always. Oher than that, your cyoa will probably force me to stay away from cyoag while figuring out how to save ranni lmao.

Keep it up.
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>>98205814
>you probably aren't fit to be a paladin desu
I'm actually one of the best Paladin's of this universe. No one knows evil better than I do. The less you know about evil, the more complacent you become towards it. Pure souls that are too empathetic ironically make for the worst Paladins, they get completely crushed under the overwhelming weight of evil, they never experienced it before, they don't know how to process it. But if you don't have enough empathy you become evil. Therefore BALANCE must be struck.
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>>98205722
The starting points already make you very powerful, and there is a very large number of oaths to pick from if you want more power. The only time you would be taking the oaths you dont like is when going for the dawn wish.
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>>98205950
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>>98205956
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>>98205945
>figuring out how to save ranni lmao.
Not possible, literally, Ranni in frenzied fag's cyoa was betrayed by her own consort, she will never accept a new one
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>>98205950
No you're fucking not
Purity is orthogonal to ignorance, Pigs and sheep cannot be pure
You, in allowing yourself to drift are a lesser man for it
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>>98205964
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>>98205939
Taking it hyper literally (which is where the issues arise)? Yes. A paladin isnt working when they asleep for example. Taken to the most braindead extreme something like "you must always be trying to do good" would require you to be in constant motion, maximising good however possible with each action.

>You stepped sideways to avoid a puddle? That wasnt doing good in the world! Fall! Eating a sandwich? Thats not doing good! Double fall!

See? Thats dumb right?
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>>98205971
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>>98205922
Very, very much looking forward to this.
>>98205965
Dawg he already confirmed that you can save her. Besides, in that cyoa the Tarnished was a woman, so you just have to show Ranni what good dick feels like.
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>>98205837
>>98205781
>>98205741

Its not an issue for "honorable people" as much as it is an issue for people who are going to view it like a faustian bargain to exploit (generally of the less than honorable disposition). Those are however a very large portion of cyoag, since the place generally encourages extreme rules lawyering and therefore extremely strict rules
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>>98205629
bro i remember how the prereq for magic forcing you into a world you don't want completely wrecked this cyoa for me in its entirety, it was so bad
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>>98205972
I mean more in the sense you can't stop being a priest, a cop or a doctor even when you are off duty, there's a 'level of action' that is required by the lifestyle, but that doesn't mean you need to be 'on action' all the time, or as much as you should expect from a fallible mortal.
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>>98206043
Well, yea.
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>>98205178
You cant cast perfect simulation inside of your own perfect simulation. It also sounds like you are likely to lose your mind in all that time. It is one of if not the most OP singular spell though
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>>98205567
I think you mean Wodanpeak
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>>98206031
you probably aren't fit to be a janitor of light desu
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>>98205922
Class image format looks good. Are you sticking with the base game starting classes or will there be anything more unique/esoteric?
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>>98206061
noooo I forgot pic my catposter intimation joke is ruined
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>>98206061
stop being an incompetent troll anon, that's the line you use for someone whining about vows, not worlds
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>>98204435
This one, trust me
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>>98206079
>good cyoa
>entropiss
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>>98206089
Great
>>98206092
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>>98205932
Arigato, Anon-kun.

>>98205945
I believe in you.

>>98205982
>you just have to show Ranni what good dick feels like.
I am glad someone understands the point of making the Frenzied Flame Tarnished a woman

>>98206062
Arigato Class-San
I am considering making some as quest rewards, for alternate starts if you want to go back through again. I know someone had mentioned wanting to be a Cleanrot or a Cucco knight.
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>>98205892
You are supposed to interpret in good faith, rather than as a literal RAW contract in which you are supposed to find exceptions and loopholes
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>>98205909
From one way-too-large-in-scope fairy CYOA author to another, I wish you the best of luck
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>>98206175
Yes, and in good faith always means always. Resting is a part of acting, but anything that isn't actively doing good isn't actively doing good
What you are arguing is not that the rules have a different interpretation but that they suck unbelievable ass and therefore cannot be interpreted as written
I agree with this statement, but I don't enjoy the idea of being a paladin with nebulous or meaningless vows
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>>98206151
>Cleanrot or a Cucco knight.
Both quite cool. I think Perfumer would also be a fun starting class.
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>>98206175
It's not even bad faith, the problem is that 99% of cyoag is autistic and will genuinely interpret stuff in the most painfully literal way possible.
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I went through a gigacringe furry phase in my early 20s. No one knows cringe like I do.
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>>98206233
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>>98206229
I wonder if there are people here who are religious and if they are, how they deal with all the interpretations that come with it. Things like fish on fridays and eruvs wuld make anons bust a vessel.
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>>98206238
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>>98206201
>Yes, and in good faith always means always.
That is literally not what it means in good faith. When your friend tells you "yea, I always try my hardest" it does not mean he slams the door as strongly as possible whenever he closes it.

>but I don't enjoy the idea of being a paladin with nebulous or meaningless vows
Theyre not meaningless, theyre simply not a fucking demon-contract you can try and rules lawyer. "sorry god, but technically I didnt break it because XYZ, so you cant fall me"
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>>98202383
Since you didnt believe I go to the gym I took a pic. Sadly I didnt have a pen or anything to write on so I just spelled Wod for Wodan out of a couple of tissues.
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>>98206249
This nigga drinkin coke zero
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>>98206242
This is being written without any malice or /pol/fagging, but the way anons approach the vows in radiant is extremely jewish. Judaism has a very strong "raw" bent to it (which makes sense if youre them I guess, they think they have the infallible word of god, which means theres no loopholes/all loopholes are intentional and therefore valid, but I digress) in that religion is a thing to be "solved", you have this divine contract and you need to figure out the exact terms of how to fulfill it and the exact limitations of its scope.

Anon paladins would write their own version of the talmud
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>>98206255
Niggas be hating on anything nowerdays
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>>98206255
Coke Zero >>> Regular Coke. Prove me wrong (you can't).
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>>98203314
Any cyoas with this theme already?
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>>98206278
Coke zero is piss though.

>>98206281
Pepsi max > regular coke > pepsi > coke zero > diet coke
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>>98206281
>>98206284
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>>98206284
>>98206281
Coke zero tastes identical and doesnt make you obese
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>>98206302
Cute cat.
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>>98206302
This cat's drinking Dr Pepper! Grok is this real?
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>>98206281
Just drink water, retard.
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>>98206176
>>98205909
From one fairy enjoyer anon to two authors, i am on a feast.
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>>98206245
You are repeatedly claiming that I am trying to "Rules lawyer" whilst ignoring the heart of my arguement
Are you uncomfortable with the fact that you are the person trying to bend the rules to your convenience? And slinking into a framing device that you wish was true?

>When your friend tells you "yea, I always try my hardest" it does not mean he slams the door as strongly as possible whenever he closes it.
Yes, because that would be retarded anon, that isn't related to either the spirit of the contract or the meaning of "Try your hardest"

>Theyre not meaningless, theyre simply not a fucking demon-contract you can try and rules lawyer. "sorry god, but technically I didnt break it because XYZ, so you cant fall me"
Anon, you retard, it's not about the meaning to god, or the other paladins, or any other random fucker.
It's Meaningless *TO ME*
If I stop following the oathes where they are stupid I stop following them in every way that matters
I do not want to go on your shitty half assed adventure

You really seem confused by the idea that I have personal moral holdings about keeping my word
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>>98204828
Can i not pick destined death?
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>>98206393
>Yes, because that would be retarded anon
So "always" isnt actually "always" then? Cool. Its almost like you can use your head and see its simply a word used to convey a general sentiment, rather than a literal descriptor.

>It's Meaningless *TO ME*
>its not hyper-literal so its personally meaningless
Youre either autistic to a degree that warrants medication or incapable of not rules lawyering.
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>>98206426
You are arguing on the behalf of bending and selectively interpreting rules to ones own benefit
Do you or do you not accept that this is the case?
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>>98206397
Yeah author said you don't have to take it

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97276593/#q97277447
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>>98206443
Sweet.
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why wouldnt you be? its just free right?
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>>98206442
No, I am arguing against interpreting rules in a purposefully obtuse and hyper-literal way. RAI vs RAW.
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>>98206475
It is free and useful but having a destined death is a bit stressing for me.
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>>98206509
No I mean "why wouldnt you be able to not buy it", its not like youre forced to take every power you can afford.
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>>98206514
I mean i assume i don't have to but maybe you are supposed to take it. Just wanted to make sure.
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>>98206505
>Purposefully obtuse
>Hyper literal
Anon you have been intentionally ignoring my points and making semantic critisisms for the past hour

God it's been an hour of this shit

I have things I could be doing....
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>>98206379
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>>98206281
>>98206284
Fat fuck soda aficionado coming through
>S
Diet/Zero Vanilla Coke
Diet/Zero Mtn Dew Baja Blast + Voltage + Code Red
>A
Diet Coke
Diet/Zero Cherry Coke + Vanilla Cherry Mix
Diet Dr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper Zero
Diet Pepsi, Pepsi Zero
Diet/Zero Pepsi Flavored with Vanilla and/or Cherry
Diet & Zero Mtn Dew
>C
Coke Zero
Caffeine Free Diet Coke
Diet/Zero Dr. Pepper Cherry + Cream Variants
Diet Dr. Thunder
Pepsi Max
Diet Root Beer Brands
>D
Real Sugar Soda
Cream Soda Brands
Sprites and 7-Up Brands
>F
All Corn Syrup Slop Soda
Fruity Brands (Orange, Grape, Strawberry, etc)
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>>98206558
true, thin people drink coke zero
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>>98206547
Obligatory disclaimer:
These drinks have wildly different composition in different countries/regions. Two people from different countries arguing about the taste of the drink with the same name may well be arguing about very different drinks.
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>>98206563
I'm more of a tea guy
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I have returned with a new CYOA.
This time quite wordy (but still nothing like some). Have fun. Share builds
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>>98206563
>Sprite
>Mnt dew
I am going to grind the fuck out of my stats
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>>98206567
I'm American of course. No way a fancy thin European would make that kind of post.
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>>98206532
Your point is that the good faith reading is hyper-literal because the only way you arent being autistically RAW is if you want to bend the rules via interpretation to your own benefit. It is stupid.
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>>98206600
No, it isn't

That isn't even an autistically literal version of what I have said

I worry that you might not be being retarded on purpose
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>>98206590
Health, Power, Any Contact

Become an immortal body god.
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>>98206590
Cognition
Souls
Any Contact
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Just hit on a huge flow state working on my cyoa, This has got to be the best loking one I've made yet
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>>98206590
>Health
>Ownership

>Modifier - any contact

I take charge of all AI companies and destroy AI. No need to thank me. All your money is thanks enough.
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>>98206625
nta but I think your point is that if you ignore the rules when they're inconvenient, they're not really rules, and that relying upon nebulous, vaguely defined intent doesn't work as a moral system.
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>>98206590
>Skills
I don't even need to steal it so i can just copy them. Hell trading skills might be on the table.
>Power
Well i also want to be strong. I can probably trade someone gains in exchange for something they might wanna learn like playing the piano or whatever.
>Any contact
Easier to not break contact this way. I assume contact is broken on jumping if the ground is the contact point. I can just tie a rope to someone and that should count.
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>>98206590
Nowdays you are supposed to write:

OC OC OC OC

so that people skimming the thread to avoid arguements can see the post
Build:
Power
Souls
Any contact

5m is pretty far, and I don't have a time limit, so I am going to visit a prison or some other place where bastards are likely to be and take everything I can
Bodyswap stuff sounds fun. I can get henchmen and have them take over politicians
And also sex stuff
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>>98206637
Yes, basically, but more in the line that is isn't fun
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>>98206629
A fun use of the Power mishap I realized is that you can make contact to establish a transfer of all the being's power and willingly mishap it, leaving him with no juice with nothing but a slap.

>>98206631
Daniel J. D'Arby playstyle.

>>98206636
Getting stuff just to have them crash and burn is not something I had in mind. Pretty brilliant.

>>98206655
Keep in mind that power works on all beings. Including animals. That might be easier to get.

>>98206666
Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind.

And yes to the sex stuff.
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>>98206590
>Powers
Cognition
Souls
>Modifiers
Any Contact

Mind control and body hopping immortality. Preventing mishaps should be easy with 2 second mind control, just tell them to stay put.
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>>98206636
that's not enough, what about all the ai people use at home?
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>>98206798
Local AI is more soulful and uses no water and about the same energy as a gaming session, though
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>>98206798
People at home can't pretrain AI, you need huge data centers for that. And your huge data centers put you on my radar, and suddenly it was always mine.

>>98206822
The water cost is a bluesky meme. The real reasons are elsewhere.
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>>98204820
So I think what breaks anon is the interpretation of the wording of the oaths.
Take Oath of doing good for example, and always moving in motion to perform good deeds.

Taking it literally means they cannot do things like eat or sleep, because those are selfish and not doing good.
Taking it as it was intended means it does not rule out things as eating or sleeping, because those are chores of health that has no moral bearing.

Basically hard filtering autists. As they can only think in terms of the literal.
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>>98206893
I know, it's exaggerated everywhere. With local AI specifically, though, you can plainly say that the water cost is actually exactly zero.

There are plenty of valid reasons to be anti-AI, but water use isn't really one of them (and local AI negates most of the other reasons too)
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>>98206893
>Can't pretrain AI
You can, though. Admittedly not with the speed, scale, or resources of the big players, but training at home is absolutely something that people can do
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>*Trains AI at home*
>Eureka! AI without water expense!
>*Meanwhile, in a power plant some kilometers away*
Exception if you're from a country with mostly solar/eolic grid (and during the day).
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>>98206979
A top-of-the-line computer setup with the latest and greatest Nvidia GPU is still only going to draw as much as the PC's power supply can provide, which is usually only something like 750-1000w. It's only ever going to be equivalent to running an AAA game on high settings.

You could push it higher if we were talking about full server racks of non-consumer 5-figure GPUs from home, but that's a bit detached from what people would normally consider local AI
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>>98206893
>People at home can't pretrain AI
retardo-kun please stop speaking
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>>98207022
For how long are we talking actually (I don't know much about local AI)? Sure if it's like 8 hours, it's pretty much the same as a intense gaming session, but if you go to sleep and let the fans whirling then it's RIP anon's power bill?
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>>98206694
>Keep in mind that power works on all beings. Including animals. That might be easier to get.
On that case i can just go to a slaughter house and get the power of hundreds of cows that are going to get butchered anyways... The hard part would be to figure out a reliable connection.
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>>98207037
It depends on what you're trying to do. Leaving it on overnight or longer could be something you might do for training.

Let's assume a 1000W PC power supply (higher than most, but it makes calculations easier). That's 1KW. Energy is priced by KW/h. Average energy cost in the US is 17.65¢/kWh, meaning that if you ran your computer at absolute maximum draw (unrealistic) for one hour, it would cost 17.65 cents.

x24 hours, and a whole day of rigorous local training costs you $4.24.

Let's do a big project, leaving it running a whole month. x30 days = $127.08. That's a big chunk of your monthly power bill, but it's probably not breaking the bank, especially if you could afford such a high-end PC to begin with. Most local users won't go that hard, but you could take that as a rough maximum for how much a non-insane single user setup could use.
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>>98206590
>souls
easy, bodyhopping is the same as agelessness and shapeshifting

>skills
souls means health is a bit redundant, power seems alright but I don't see being superman being more useful for daily life than being batman

>mod: no mishap
5 meter rang is decent but this lets me be more ballsy with my payload transfers without risking losing everything.

the 15 minutes for soul transfer is a pain but considering that skills can leave others unable to move in just 2 minutes I can somewhat cheese it. Also the transfer is not obvious so 2 minutes of contant is not that unrealistic
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>>98207022
>>98207085
What does someone even need that much AI for? Surely just a basic hour a day can get more porn than someone would ever need. Seems like a waste of time when the hardware could be mining crypto instead.
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>>98207129
Some people want to train their own models or have more ambitious projects in mind than just generating titties. Also, you generally need specific hardware to mine crypto "efficiently"; you won't get very far just chucking any normal setup at it, even a very good one
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>>98206590
>Souls
>Ownership
Find girl and then transfer soul and all ownership of everything I own to my new body
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>>98206590
this is the kind of CYOA I generally will not make a build for because any of these powers would probably corrupt me very quickly. Even if you started out keeping it completely consensual, it would be a slippery slope compared to a lot of magic, superpowers, and so on. cool ideas though!
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>>98206151
>I am glad someone understands the point of making the Frenzied Flame Tarnished a woman
She's still used goods conceptually.
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>>98207327
No dick entering vagina, no sex. Who cares if they've been exchanging sweet nothings. You can't beat the cock.
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Okay. Assuming you got transported/isekai'd to another world, let's say a cyoa, or any fictional setting, etc, HOW would you justify the implications? Is it a dream? An alien? An alien device? What sent you there? Do you assume that your memories of making choices (in the case it's a cyoa) are erased and forgotten to avoid breaking the fourth wall? Or do you assume you have prophetic knowledge of the world and situation in advance?
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>>98207373
Unless it says otherwise I assume I remember making my choices yea
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>>98207373
Ignorance is bliss to most anons, mine Anon. Just look at how people react to the 'Matterjeet' when they start hypothesizing.
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>>98207373
Why would I care about the reason?
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>>98207408
You just want to go with the flow? You don't want to question things? You can do both.
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>>98207373
I don't really play CYOAs by self-inserting, but if I was suddenly isekai'd I would assume it was a dream and I think it would suit that situation to remember the choices and what I had read about the setting. To me it's a lot cooler to lose most or all of that memory though, or possibly have it reinterpreted through an in-setting lens that made it less disjointed.
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>>98207373
If I woke up tommorrow in another land I would assume that magic was real and that there were powers inherent to conciousness I had not previously grasped
I would then be searching for some time, for what this means and what it does

The questions provoked would likely take a lifetime or multiple to answer

If I had answered a cyoa, then I would be more willing to believe the specific magics of the setting and of beings far beyond my comprehension having some interest in life
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>>98207411
It's just as unfathomable as "Why was I existing in Earth". Something fun to think before sleeping, but ultimately irrelevant to what I do/
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>>98207415
>I don't really play CYOAs by self-inserting
Youre doing it wrong
Choose YOUR Own Adventure
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>>98207415
>I don't really play CYOAs by self-inserting
autists, not even once
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>>98207422
I interpreted this image more as a wail of genuine anguish
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>>98207420
>I would assume that magic was real and that there were powers inherent to conciousness I had not previously grasped
If you didn't find your previous world (the 21st century) to be a magical one you're kind of a piece of shit. Isekai settings frequently find amazement in the capabilities and possibilities of where the isekai'd hero comes from. It's a common gag/joke aspect. "You can do WHAT with wheels??". What is magic is relative to persons and what is most familiar to them.

>>98207421
Not really. You were actually born on Earth. That's more so immersive. In this case you're actually being sent somewhere wholesale.

Please think harder.
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>>98207373
It depends on the world.
If an established fictional world or an over the top strange world (hyper nsfw, anime-tier wackiness, etc), then I would be highly suspicious that I'm being messed with by some kind of being.
For normal worlds I would be confused and think on it a lot, like maybe I got reincarnated with memories, or I was simply transported to a different world due to Earth not being compatible with me or something.
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>>98207435
>What is magic is relative to persons and what is most familiar to them.
>>98207436
>then I would be highly suspicious that I'm being messed with by some kind of being.

This is matterjeeta. Notice how they always go back to magical relativity and aliens being behind everything.
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>>98207373
Depends, if I remember making the choices I would assume that I am a metaphysical copy of the original created by some multiverse fuckery where imagination or possibility spawns stuff somewhere.
If I didn't, I would probably try to find out how I got in there in the first place.

In anyway I think I would give up at some point and just accept what it is (assuming I don't find out how I got there).
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>>98207435
>You were actually born on Earth
Meh. For all I know I'm actually some schuck from a fantasy setting who got reincarnated here after a heroic sacrifice. Or a bad guy sent here depowered for his penance.

It's not interesting for my adventure/life. Think of your own answer I won't care about.
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>>98207446
You're not a very smart guy. For me.
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>>98207426
Notnoface but depending on the setup, I find more immersive to think of myself as a different person or mindset rather than my own, otherwise I would find hard to actually justify acts of extreme heroism or villainy.
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>>98207446
That's still... being born to an experience rather than being taken to a new one. Exposure logic, anon.

>>98207449
Cyoag anons aren't very intelligent in-general, sadly.
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>>98207446
"Terrible villain living out penance for crimes she doesn't remember" dominates so many of my musings on the purpose of my life and this world
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>>98207449
Sure, why not.
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>>98207446
>>98207452
Edgelord alert.

Or, alternatively, self-hating individuals who deserve pity (and meds, lots of depression meds).
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>>98207441
>This is matterjeeta
I'm not a Materialist. I'm a Spiritualist.
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>>98207452
>she
Anon?
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>>98207452
It's possible that you were a completely mundane piece of shit in another life too, anon. You weren't necessarily awesome in any way shape or form.
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>>98207454
You could at least try to defend your position.
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>>98207457
That you think the spiritual isn't material is cute.

You're not a very smart guy. For me.
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>>98207452
Same, but considering how worse life could be, I'm not sure if this would be actual punishment. Being in mental anguish is still probably better than being in an asylum or facing constant abuse and torture.
Maybe it's like a type of prison and we dream of a mundane, bad existence because anything else would wake you up.
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>>98207452
Is that why Destruction is your favorite aspect, Aro?
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>>98207456
Mostly the latter in my case, but after seeing what depression meds have done to my peers, I'll take my chances with the depression
>>98207458
Yes?
>>98207460
But why would such an elaborate torture be constructed for someone so mundane?
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>>98207472
>But why would such an elaborate torture be constructed for someone so mundane?
Have you taken one look at India?
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>>98207435
>If you didn't find your previous world (the 21st century) to be a magical one you're kind of a piece of shit
And what exactly do you think "Magic" is?
Because I clearly stated "Powers of conciousness", which have not been widely observed

Do you need me to use smaller words?
Fuck you
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>>98207463
For what? Proving myself to Anonymous and wasting my time while I could continue reading and post CYOAs passively?
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Matterheroine...
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>>98207485
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl
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>>98207481
Anyone who isn't totally devoid of wonder and the ecstatic feeling of mystery still thinks magic exists, you willy-willy anon. The Jeets are wise. Existence is a magician.
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>>98207373
>Okay. Assuming you got transported/isekai'd to another world, let's say a cyoa
Okay.

>HOW would you justify the implications? Is it a dream? An alien? An alien device? What sent you there?
Depends on how real it would feel. If it feels real then there is no point in assuming it is not, even if it later turn out not to been real.

>Do you assume that your memories of making choices (in the case it's a cyoa) are erased and forgotten to avoid breaking the fourth wall?
Unless I picked an option that made me forget or the cyoa implicitly state that I forget I will naturally remember everything.

>Or do you assume you have prophetic knowledge of the world and situation in advance?
Whatever the cyoa told me. If it tells me the world is a known popular fictional setting and I know the plot then I know still it when I get there.
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My favorite matterjeeta moment is when they complained about their physics professor getting angry at them for calling nature magical and he accused the professor's amygdala of "freaking out" when it "confronts a force of beauty" and I lol'd at that

Must be a truly angsty fellow who despises atheism or something
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>>98207422
>>98207426
This is well-trod ground. I'll just say that there are a host of reasons why a strict self-insert doesn't make sense. I'd rather a kernel of myself live on in a life I designed than be thrown into some kind of cosmic nightmare where I'm constantly worried I'm in the Matrix or a torture dimension or coma. None of it is real anyway, however, so I am choosing my adventure for roleplay purposes
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>>98207510
Which is funny when the mentally handicapped here accuse him of being Atheist when he's defending science. Or a Theist when he's defending religion. Black and white anons cannot stand with someone so grey.
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>>98207485
Anons told me it ruined cyoag
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>>98207527
Probably because matterjeet is so consistent in her retardation that he is hated by both sides equally
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It's a SHE you FUCKS
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>>98207527
>he
Nice try
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>>98207533
I'm being straight honest here. He's not stupid. Anons here are simply underage/uneducated. He should not be in a place that practically depends on low iq people to survive. He is insufferable because he is misplaced. I don't know why he comes here.
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>>98207539
>>98207540
She wont fuck you bro
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>>98207435
Magic is something supernatural. Everything in our world is natural.

Now, if you go to a fantasy world with magic, where the author has already established that it is real magic then it will still be magic when you get there. There will be nothing relative about it. It will not be nanobots or some other tech too advanced for the locals to understand. It will be honest real magic, even if you cannot understand how that is possible.
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UWOOHHH

BRATTY MATTERJEETA

NEEDS BWC CORRECTION
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>>98207558
>Magic is something supernatural. Everything in our world is natural.
If you actually believe this, it's a red flag that you are mentally incapable of constructing the necessary nuance to see something holistically for what it is.

You are not a very smart guy. For me.
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MatterDEITY is never wrong
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>>98207564
The words have definitions you dimwit. If an author use the word "magic" then that is what it mean. What you want seem to be sci-fi.
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>>98207373
Ever since I read about it over 20 years ago in high school, I have lived my life in accordance with the concept of nietzschean eternal recurrence. That I am for doomed to repeat my actions and my life again and again forever more. Life is inherently absurd, and so the correct action is to dance in accordance to my spiritual needs. I would not suspect any specific cause for the isekai, unless I was given reason to. If they were clues, I would pursue them to try to get back, for I have left behind a wife and daughter. If return ends up being impossible, I know I leave them with a million-dollar life insurance and family that would support them. I would enjoy the delights of that world in accordance with my principals, and I would pursue the virtue of a good life, regardless of the circumstances I find myself in. I have naval gazed long enough over why I exist at all, if I wake up tomorrow to find myself in a dying dream for a matrix or a true planar hop, I will appreciate the life that I have and the time that I have.
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>>98207574
>Magic is what I say it is.
Deciding what is/isn't magic is just basic fucking psychology, my guy/dude.
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>>98207564
It is in the nature of Capital to incorporate all understandable things into itself. If there is Magic and I can make money off the magic it is - in principle - a material thing. If magic is not understandable in such a way that it is impossible to make money off of it, only then what I deem it Supernatural. Though the correct discovery can transfer it from the latter to the former.
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>>98207613
>quotes some random Internet reviewer of Tolkien for his definition of magic.
You have access to both dictionaries and AI. Look up the definition of the word properly. The definition is not up to your personal interpretation. That is not me deciding what the definition is. It is general consensus.
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If you want to be Isekai'd you have to listen to this song first

The trees of the earth
Drink the water
And I drink the blood of man
And I drink the blood of man
High in the roots
Rise the water
And I drink the blood of man
Now I drink the blood of man
The leaves unfurl with the water
And I drink the blood of man
Now I drink the blood of man
In the air and the sky is the water
On this ride, you must die
It's the plan
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>>98207643
All of that was written by Tolkein except for the part in red, and it's just basic Clarkean ("sufficiently advanced-anything is magic") logic. Magic in fiction is never not sufficiently sophisticated or convenient for the sake of the narrative. Sufficiently understood magic is also indistinguishable from science. It's all just a matter of subjective perception, and the air of wonder and mystery that permeates. This is why the eye within the triangle/pyramid is the most apt symbol for magic, bar none. Magic IS an angle of perception. The capital-w Wizard might not even see themselves as such. Their bar for magic is higher than yours. Your idea of magic is petty/pathetic to them.
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>>98207665
>665
You can't change a single digit to hide yourself, Satan. Go away.
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>>98207615
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfB7y7M6P4c
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>>98207687
He just wanted to do business. ;_;
It didn't matter to him if you were a human or a tentacle faced pirate lich ;_;
He truly treated you as an equal ;_;
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>>98207665
> and it's just basic Clarkean ("sufficiently advanced-anything is magic") logic
>fantasy is just disguised sci-fi
Not if the author says it is not.

Learn to respect authors.
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reddit oc but I think this is is kind of neat
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>>98207700
Fantasy and science-fiction are the same thing anon. It’s all just surface coating.

— “I think that for science fiction, fantasy, and even horror to some extent, the differences are skin-deep. I know there are elements in the field, particularly in science fiction, who feel that the differences are very profound, but I do not agree with that analysis. I think for me it is a matter of the furnishings. An elf or an alien may in some ways fulfill the same function, as a literary trope. It’s almost a matter of flavor. The ice cream can be chocolate or it can be strawberry, but it’s still ice cream. The real difference, to my mind, is between romantic fiction, which all these genres are a part of, and mimetic fiction, or naturalistic fiction.”
- GRRM



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