"NOOOOOOOO!" editionPrevious Heresy: >>98187117>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread Question:How does losing a game affect you? Do you 'punish' or 'reward' losing minis?
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>>98204084>How does losing a game affect you?I have only lost one game so far (and that was a real nail biter - nothing really let me down there, just some poor plays on my end and some good rolls to wound for my opponent), so "not very much" (so far). Besides, im too poor to smash models in anger.
How much of a discount would you say makes it worth it to buy a 2nd hand predator over just buying a new one? Mainly thinking in terms of "you lose the option of convenient weapon swaps and stuff".I want the option of ideally having any weapon option since im indecisive and want to to different things depending on the list.
This is the first and legit thread btw, the other baker didn't check the catalogue.
Regarding the cult legions, do you prefer their "corrupted" or their pre-Isstvan aesthetics?Lore-wise, WE and especially EC degenerated very fast, but usually you only see clean armies on tables.
>>98204142and?
>>98204146100% pre-corrupted, it's why I play 30k and not 40k.
>>98204142are you starting that "mimimi, my thread is the only legit" whinning kindergarten again?just IGNORE IT, you fag...
>>98203166I'll do you one better, it's from the third onewards.https://gofile.io/d/cO8qbx
>>98204146It's hard to say I prefer one or the other when they are both great for different things. I think the pre-betrayal is great for loyalists, while "corrupted" is great for traitors. That's for those who do change, I can't see the difference with pre/post IWs or NLs, for instance.
When do you think will they drop the nu Mk4?
>>98204137Nu Mk6 came with a plethora of characters & consuls, but it sort of fizzled out somewhat.I think GW is preparing to abandon resin, that would mean they have to rework a lot of things and thus have less content, so they can't drip feed much over a long period of time like they did with 2.0.We were still expecting some characters as well as legion specific consuls.
>>98204148>>98204155I didn't make the thread. I only point out the fuck up the other anon did.
>>98204146Sir this is 30k.
>>98204161Maybe in two weeks, next week is probably AoS Slaanesh, so the week after that is generally a SDS game, so it could be MESB Rohan stuff or HH stuff
>>98204161just as soon as gw manages to press the world's militaries into delivering an aerosol mutagenic agent through tanker aircraft on the world's populace that causes an extra finger to grow on mankind's right hands so as to pave over their marketing fuckup
Turns out there's an use for those expensive Joytoy HH dolls: stop motion animation!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2WRXZ6RxE4
>>98204203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wxJ4_I6B5U>not playing full-dick games with them
>>98204203classic mkIII my beloved
>>98204203>>98204205Great use of these.They're also great to get a better look at things not (easily) visible on the miniature.
>>98204243they're big cuties desu but i don't have a lot of place for them in my palate with a bigass collection of nice and doted proper miniatures
I think GW removed the extra ball/articulation in the final release because it interfered with holsters & belt accessories.
>>98204084>TQwe play Clawhammer 40,000 with losers here son
do you guys magnetize leviathan weapons? I wanted to magnetize them, but the fit seems tight enough to just plug the weapons in dry
Sprinkling in some Custodes bits for my Blood Angels and Emperor's Children was a good choice, they both work thematically and fit nicely.
>>98204517I just realised that those Jump packs + the new Mark IV would make good Sanguinary Guard conversions.
>>98204533You get twice as many pairs of wings than you actually need in a Venatari box. Guess it depends if you want an eagle head on your jump pack.
>>98204146Corrupted or bust, I'm working on a fucked up fellblade purely because GW refuses to invest in evil tanks
>>98204156Hell yeah anon, thanks. Have some world eaters.
>>98204614Groovy. The skull on the turret is a bit too much, maybe a stylized metal plate shaped like a skull would work better?>skull with bolters for eyesOmegakekUsed an actual scan as a base or just really autistic?
>>98204813>scan?a really faithful recreation from cults>skull with bolters for eyeshe has a brother
>>98204927>cults recreationSauce / gofile?Lmfao that's great
>>98204517Got any pics?
I had a notion and I'd like to run it by you guys. As far as I know, Moritats are disturbed Marines who are given some nice double guns and sent out to do maximum damage. That being said, I'm deliberating between giving my BA Moritat the classic Maximus helmet, the new Sanguinor helmet, or the Death Company Chaplain skull helmet. Which do you like the most?
>>98205004>HH helmet, primaris character, mk7Is this bait? there's only one possible option of that list. Or you could make it with mkVI or mkII assault marines.For mkVI you could use pic related from the axe praetor. It's pretty much a BA helmet
>>98204963It's Craftos' Iron Dome Super Heavy Tank. It's since been delisted but he'll probably respond to messages on his cults page
>>98205052shit, forgot pic
>>98205052I don't see the issue with the Sanguinor helmet, but that would look better on Sanguinary Guard instead.Hot tip is using the Chaplain jump pack instead, it's MkIV but looks different from the SG ones.What makes the helmet MkViI though? The mandible slots?
>>98205069Cheers, godspeed on the chaos fellblade
>>98205088The BA jump chaplain is a very nice 40k model but it's iconography is all wrong for HH BA:>flayed skin armour>death company icons>mkvii helmet (wide air intake at the top, side slots)>skull mask with fangsI've though also about using it, but the thuth is that it doesn't make sense.If you want a custom BA moritat, it's just easier to use Zephon as a base
>>98204732You're welcome. Eaters are my favourite legion too.
>>98204084>TQDepends on the type of loss there are 3 types of losses, 1 is good, 1 is hilarious, 1 is not fun. 1 The close defeat: If i only lose by like less then 5 points, its a good game, and in my book i treat it as a win because it means the game was close, good example of this was I would have won a game if i retreated from my warlord dueling with my opponents warlord, i said fuck that, thats gay, so our warlords fought, i wiffed, he killed my warlord and won by 1 point, i still counted it as a win in my book.2 the beat down: THis is one were each turn your oponant is winning basically every fight, but not wipping the board enough for it to be a total blow out, these are demoralizing because its acase of you know you cant do anything against it, and its just not even fun. This is from shit like people spamming super broken unit or bullshit you cant really do anything agianst unless you list tailor against.3 The WTF just happened: THis is a loss that is so comidically fast that its not even frustrating its just you roll bad, your oponant rolls hot, and you get wiped off the board in one or 2 turns. This happened to me were i got glasses off the table, failed every reserve roll and charge roll game was over in literally less then 30 min.
>>98204161Well if i had to count the days on my fingers, at least more then 11.
>>98205120>mkvii helmet (wide air intake at the top, side slots)OK couple of thingsone that helmet doesn't have an air intake at the top (and the flattened area isn't significantly wider than the mkIV Dawnbreaker intake and is certainly not wider than the Headhunter intakes, which are mkVI)two that helmet's side intakes are nearly identical with the mkIV Phalanx Warders
>>98205413>that helmet doesn't have an air intake at the top>the flattened area isn't significantly wider than the mkIV Dawnbreaker intakejfc, why there's always a blind contrarian trying to tell people that their eyes are lying to them? Are you russian or something? Do you enjoy bullshitting people in their faces with blatant untruths?>that helmet's side intakes are nearly identical with the mkIV Phalanx Wardersthey're not identical at all. And even if side "air intakes" could be accepted as a reinforced type like destroyers/warders/etc, the rest of the helmet is definitely not mkIV
>>98204315too many balls already nu-marks suck!
>>98205469It would help the court of public opinion if you fags would post actual side by side pics of some of these parts in these flame wars so we could see what youre nit picking about.
>>98205520Look here >>98205004 and tell us if you don't see a wide mk7 "air intake" at the top
>>98205490We like big balls -AC/DC
>>98205531wide air intake like maximus?
>>98205772MkIV has a narrow intake.
How's playing with Knighs in HH3? Can they be allies to a legion force or taken as a LoW?I'm interested in a House Devine knight for an EC force.
>>98204732After so many years of mkIV manlets, it's going to be strange to see them finally upscaled
TOTAL SCULPT MOGGING
>>98206513I mean, im crying that we are cheering on GW giving us shitty mono pose that is incompatible with every upgrade from the past just to make us buy new shit....again....
>>98206260From very limited exposure? Bad at scoring, bad at melee. Very good at killing things, especially vs unprepared lists.
>>98206260you need armigers or yeomanrie or both or you're gonna have a bad time>>98205531there's literally no intake at the top, it's just plate armour
>>98206574>there's literally no intake at the top, it's just plate armourwhat's the point of lying about something everyone can see as a fact with their own eyes?
>>98206535You dont HAVE to give them money you know...theyre going to charge what, $100 for a box of 20? Cant you get 20-25+ FW recasts from wartable for less than that?
>>98206614>You dont HAVE to give them money you know.I dont i order china cast because i hate the mono pose shit that basically does not work with any of the old legion specific bits.
>>98206614the recast will not be in plastic though, I do not want to have to do anything with resin.
>>98206535>mono pose that is incompatible with every upgrade from the pastbut they'll be compatible with every upgrade sold currently except torsos. I'd say it's a fair trade off. There's always cutting and kitbashing.If you're going to complain, at least complain for the right reasons, like the aesthetic changes, or the lack of the iconic mkIV jump pack
>>98206664Resin is so much fun to work with though once you get used to it (and as long as its cast good, ive had a few super thin pieces that werent fun....). Maybe its just because ive built more Leman Russ variants than there are genders in california nowadays, but I find I have way better modelling control with resin than I do with plastic now.
can practically steal myself a cataphractii praetor that i would like to use as a siege master for my tyrant termies, but he's already painted in horus colors. thoughts in terms of re-painting?
>>98206860>thoughts in terms of re-painting?Well you probably want to re-prime the model as a start.
>>98206614Nta and I'm not going to give them money but knowing that enshittification is the way forward stings and the new consuls and legion specific things are going to be in this new scale aren't going to look good next to my other stuff in the scale that we've had for 10+ years. Also no new legion specific torsos because of how GW in their infinite greed decided to not make them modular like the old mks.
>>98206681>I'd say it's a fair trade offyou would be wrong. Everything looking the same because GW cant into how to make them compatable with the old resin upgrade kits is a crime. Like dont get me wrong the new kits? alright cool new kits but it starts to be really fucking lame when they all look the exact fucking same and needing to do a bunch of extra shit to get them to work with the old upgrade kits. Same with weapons as well. >If you're going to complain, at least complain for the right reasons, like the aesthetic changes, or the lack of the iconic mkIV jump packI can and do about both. New kits suck. end of story, new terminator kits are even fucking worse.
>>98206610everyone can see there's no vent ya fuckin moron
>>98207049he looks like he has a silly little mustache
What 2nd founding successor will you be painting in the scouring release?
oh woe is me no legion-specific chestplates for tactical marines that are going to almost completely obscure them in holding their bolters anyhow ;^3
>>98207300I'd like to try Novamarines, but I suspect I'd get mad and go for something easy like the Doom Eagles.
>>98207374Either/or would be great. Doom eagles with some early vanvet/locutarus style units would be great
>>98206513master baiter
>>98207300go back to 40k general
stupid sexy cerastus ass
>>98207692Bro you jerking off to skeletons?
>>98207703it's the sheer breadth of those hips mang conjoined with the oh-so-luscious and smooth shrouding at the top of the legsshit is downright suggestive to at least the right eye frfr
>>98207692I love my Atrapos, not as much as my wife and children, but like a sexy friend.
>>98207692>feels like nothing at all
>>98208051Stupid, sexy Atrapos
>>98204156i really hate myself for being a marine hater during 4th to 6th i missed those old good kits
>>98208481It's okay, even if you had liked marines good chance is you'd have missed some good kits because you didn't like that one particular legion/chapter then.t. DA fag who missed the BA tac squad.The "logic" of>Well if it was so good why didn't you buy it?is utterly retarded; the lesson isn't that people should have bought anything that was cool out of fear the next gen is gonna be worse. Nobody expects that until it's already too late. Plus we are not made of infinite money & space.Anything to blame the truthsayer and not the company, of course.
>>98207174that's how you know it's artificer mark 4
>>98206681ntab>If you're going to complain, at least complain for the right reasons>after he just brushed off his valid reasons because he doesn't agree with themIt's the mix of terrible self-centered take and barely hidden bad faith that makes your kind of personality so irksome.
>>98207049It's painted over in the official photos, but the actual part has a vent, no models retard
>>98207300The 2nd founding and the Codex happened AFTER the Scouring, you 40k tourist.
>>98206939As I said, it's a trade off. Some things are better, others are worse.The marines all looking samey it's an skill issue, though. Also this is 30k, not 40k. They're mass produced suits, not relics from the past.>>98208722Shut up, retard. You're the self centered sperg than can't see the trade offs in mini design.And I hate the new catas, btw
>>98208820>you're the self-centered sperg>he sperged against someone defending another anon's takeI'm not gonna pretend I'm surprised, the source of self-centeredness, terrible opinions and bad faith is stupidity, so this checks out.>trade offsThere is no trade-off. It's a conscious choice to abandon a feature to cut costs.You pretend and assume it's a trade-off, but you're pulling that out of your ass.GW has made many kits with these features still intact and even improving on them.>I hate the new catasI don't care what you think thoughbeit lmao, it's a terrible kit but I doubt you care for anything but the look of them.Again: "irksome" is the word.
>>98208848You turned a mild disagreement on mini design into schizo pseud babble and namecalling, so yes, you're the sperg here>abandon a feature to cut costs.The HH has never been cheaper than it's now. And that's a trade off.>GW has made many kits with these features still intact and even improving on them.Yes, like the new catas, which are compatible with the old upgrades like Sekhmet. > I doubt you care for anything but the look of them.You don't belong here if you don't care about the HH aesthetics.Now fuck off and go back to 40k, tourist
So I already have 10 cataphractii from Age of Darkness BoxI also want 5 Indomidus and 5 Tataros Siege terminators because I like the models.Whats the viability in running all this in a list?
>>98208814nta, but that's not really the case. the time between the siege and the second founding is sorta the main campaign of the scouring, I guess, but it's considered to go on for decades after that. events as late as Gulliman's "death" at the battle of Thessala a century later are still considered part of the scouring. historical periodization is complicated, even in 40k, and eras bleed into each other.
>>98208973>spergingOf course, pointing out your bullshit is sperging, but>shut the fuck up retard>schizo pseud babble>sperg>you don't belong>touristThat's the reasonable guy around. l m a o>price is a tradeoffIt's cheaper because it's in plastic and because nobody would pay resin prices for a plastic kit.The price has nothing to do with the content of the kit, it is not an accurate metric.At no point does removing classic features already present in similarly priced kits somehow makes it cheaper.It is not a trade-off. You are pulling it out of your ass. Again.>new catas compatible with sekhmetAnything is compatible if you make it compatible. Ergo everything is and nothing is. You are purposefully dishonest about what compatible is.>HH aestheticsWhich were never argued in the first place.Thank you for spending so much energy demonstrating everything I have said, here is a last (you).
>>98209110The Scouring, properly speaking, ended in 021.m31 after the main traitor forces had fled to the Eye. Later, the 2nd founding happened and there were other battles with holdouts and the occassional trap until it began a "peace" period, but that was pretty much the end of it until the 1st Black Crusade.I'd agree that the designation can be ambiguous, but for the purposes of the story and the game, it makes sense to put the cut off at the point when the legions were dissolved, and 40k marines started.
Are imperial particle weapons related to necron particle weapons?
>>98209230based on the same physical principles, but independently invented by humanity in the DAoT, I would guess
>>98209230Highly unlikely.
>>98209309>>98209407Would be weird to have 2 weapons named particle (thing) that kinda look similar and both use templates with a similar ~Str6 AP5 stateline.I'm just sayin'
>>98209456>AP5Imperial ones are Ap3.
>>98209490And darklight weapons are a bit different between mechanicum and deldar, but that's just fluffy, same with eldar bright lances or even starcannons.Regardless I'm asking if there are any mention of a link with necrons for particle weapons, the rest doesn't matter.
>>98209230that arrangement looks like a high powered beam is used to break down matter and carry its subatomic particles on the beam to the target gauss weapons look like magic green rods
>>98209656It's not a gauss weapon. Particle weapons are a different weapon family.
>>98209647>I'm asking if there are any mention of a link with necrons for particle weaponsdoubt it. afaik the only mentions of imperial particle shredders is in 3rd edition horus heresy, as spooky dark age/phoebian tech. 30k doesn't know about necrons, and 40k doesn't know about imperial particle shredders, so there's not really anywhere for a lore blurb alluding to a connection to exist.
>>98209799Sad but not too surprising. Appreciated still.>phoebian techQRD?
>>98209814Saturnine terminator armor and dreadnoughts, and associated weapons are from the tech-enclaves of Phoebe, one of Saturn's moons, independent of the mechanicum.
>>98209799How the hell did the Necrons hide themselves so well?
>>98209880The real question is: Why the Great Crusade avoided tomb worlds?Remember that the Emperor knew about the C'Tan and Ferrus Mnus arma were covered in necrodermis from necron constructs in Medusa
>>98209925Did they? The great crusade was primarily about conquest of existing worlds, colonization took place (obviously) but they werent just settling every world in sight (theres a lot of planets after all).Tomb worlds arent likely to have existing human civilizations to conquer, or thriving alien empires to stamp out. Theres not very much reason for them to have been targetted. The imperium has settled on various tomb worlds though, so its likely SOME were inevitably during the great crusade.
>>98209799How do you think the legions would have performed against modern 40k threats? We don’t hear much about what sort of xenos or hostile strains of humanity were encountered during the great crusade, but not sure how tomb worlds or tyranid hive fleets compare.
>>98209956They would have utterly raped them in any engagement. They would also have not been able to properly defend the imperium of the 41st millenium due to their far higher "costs" and being more suited to large scale battle than small scale operations.The legions have more guys, better gear (to an absolutely insane degree) and better leadership/experience with large scale warfare. Something like waaagh ghazkul would have been rolled up in around a week.The legions are not going to be good at simply "sending 5 guys to put out 20000 different fires across the galaxy", which is the actual main job of marines in thr 41st millenium.
>>98209925I don't think they knew where each tomb world is. The whole idea of tomb worlds is to hide, even from eldar who were there
does this look right for light sons of Horus black basecoattamiya AS29 marine juice wash AK light green drybrush
>>98210018Looks great, anon. Incidentally, I wish MkII still had the helmets riveted to the chestplate.
>>98209956You know how the Ultramarines are everywhere in 40k while being little more than 1000 marines?No imagine 200000+ of them. And the same number of any given legion more or less. And even more ships, Imperial Army, Solar Auxilia, Titans and Mechanicum in each fleet.30k legions were massive and very powerful by 40k standards, and they still had problems winning some times.The Ullanor Ork empire was so strong that it required several legions led by Horus and the Emperor himself to be defeated.In comparison, Armaggedon is a local brawl
>>98210053Kys
>>98210018Looks ok, anon. I'd suggest to use one of the old Berzerker/chaos backpacks. They were retroactively used as the mk2/mk3 backpack by FW>>98210053>helmets riveted to the chestplateonly 1 of the 3 mk2 minis made during RT was like that, and it was always stupid. Good riddance
>>98210018looks like slightly too warm of a green imo. if you're trying to imitate that color plate, you should probably go for a paler, duller highlight color. the highlights in the illustration go almost white
>>98209956>We don’t hear much about what sort of xenos or hostile strains of humanity were encountered during the great crusadeMost of the time enemy xenos were orks and other well know 40k races like exodites.But there are mentions in BL stories and the FW black books of strong and hostile human civs that took effort to bring to compliance, if not outright genocide.There were also nasty enemies like the Rangda, which required the combined effort of multiple legions over several wars.
>>98210303kwab>>98210403>good riddanceI like it
>>98209867I think I get it; specific tech people isolated to one place that didn't survive the heresy or at least were lost in the following millenia.Cheers
It surprised me how far the cup on an airbrush lasts. I guess thinner makes the paint apply better or something.
>>98210697I’m scared to use my airbrush and it’s hindering my painting progress. Cheers, NLanon.
>>98204614This is sick and twisted and maybe even a little evil as hell.
>>98210584more or less, though I dunno that they're gone or anything. I don't think there's any reference to what happened to Phoebe later, just that the Emperor made it a special protectorate under his direct management, and they helped equip the Legions in the early days of the crusade. I guess they just gradually stopped being important as the imperium expanded and gained access to the resources of more forgeworlds. some of their tech might be more impressive than that of Mars, but it doesn't really help that much in the long run when they can't mass produce it in sufficient quantities. Vulkan did manage to modify Saturnine armor designs to allow for the mechanicum to mass produce it towards the end of the crusade, but still.
>>98210697Keep us posted with painting progress
What makes White Scars so much cooler in 30k? I heard they were very lucky with their novels and majority of them is extraordinarily good by BL standards. Is that true?
>>98210884I have some things to do before I get started on those, so it might take a while. Need to finish my drill, herald, and then a couple of terminators.
>>98210921>What makes White Scars so much cooler in 30k?They're pretty much the same in both time periods.>I heard they were very lucky with their novels and majority of them is extraordinarily good by BL standards. Is that true?Probably fair, not any duds, and no one really fighting over them so Chris Wraight got to develop them alone. Like Salamanders, only not with Nick Kyme shitting all over the place.
>>98210921>Mk11
>>98210921Yeah, it was pretty much Chris Wraigh's novels. WS have a good story arc from the betrayal to the very end at the Siege. Their mini range is also excellent, both the old and new FW resin kits.Ironically, their Black Books and HH2/3 appearances are the weakest part of their lore. Specially the retarded episode in the Beta Garmon campaign that I refuse to admit as canon
>>98211504SOVL
>>98211504Kino
>>98211504luv me warmasterluv me mars-pattern plasmaguns'ate the false emprah'ate ryza-pattern plasmagunsnot racist jus' don' like 'em
>>98211504>oldest legionnary be like
>>98211277I don’t remember them being that awful in Beta Garmon. They went on a happy killing spree, Khan laughed at Endryd Haar ripping some guy’s arm off and beating them to death with it, then they left when it was being overrun.
>>98211504I like the color scheme, but I think you should tidy up the line on the kneecap a little bit.But nice death guard
how is a proteus storm shield supposed to look like anyway?
>>98211789sand the crux off the indo shields
>>98211800>sand the crux off the crux shaped shield
>>98208814Sure - but are we going to pretend GW won't treat it like a general '40k; The Old World' rebrand. Old school 40k reboot with crunchier rules that will eventually bleed out into a variety of older 40k campaigns. Maybe even badab.
>>98209157
>>98208814i could always be changed, remember that BL is supposed to make the scouring the new main thing for their slop
>>98212043i wonder if we are going to get scouring only chapters that don't exist in 40k just for the sake of studio segregation
>>98212060There's a few named ones that are already extinct that would worki for that.
Anyone play HH with 4th edition rules? What changes did you have to make?
>>982121091.0 was built on 6e rules, which along with 4e rules are just modified 3e rules. Most of the game would run quite similarly, though stuff like challenges, hull points and psychic phases would have to be rearranged, as they didn't exist. Close combat weapons didn't have AP, either they ignored armour saves or they didn't. Chain axes reduced the opponents armour save to 4+ max.
>>98212109if i remember well there was an alternative 40k ruleset that let you play with any codex between 3rd to 7th.
>>98212060Fists Exemplars reporting in
>>98212060>>98212301>>98212065For me, it is the Soul Drinkers, wardens of Dorn's iconic weapon, the Soulspear.
>>98211850sand the crux terminatus off the veteran crux shaped shield yesuse a belt sander, it's faster
>>98212324>crux terminatus>veteran cruxWhat's even the difference?
>>98212125Is the game better served with no hull points, the old vehicle damage chart, and power weapons not being distinct? That way you can also take spears and it’s just as good as axes or mauls right? Would challenges be missed? From what I remember the game was ran well in 4th and maybe there was some bullshit rules but I don’t remember.
>>98212060>>98212065>>98212301>>98212306Flesh Tearers for me. Yes I know they’re in 40k but the shrieking psycho retard marines are cool and apparently the Flesh Eaters aren’t a second founding.
>>98212354>maybe there was some bullshit rulesRending comes to mind. Fully kitted 30k Baal Predator would be a beast.
>>98212376So some changes would be necessary. Would altering rending to the current rules of rolling to wound at 4+,5+,6+ etc be better served to the players?
Also would the game be better off without so many multi wound models? For example would it be better to have terminators at T5 but 1 wound but keep the saves? Have the rare exceptions have 2 wounds or more depending on rules/fluff?
