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>TQCrime implies a law, treaty or conventionThere is no such accord.
>>98215908>warcrimes>in 40kWhere do you think we areAlso /mydudes/ don't even have a concept of law or crime, they are just out to lunch, mate
>>98215919
>go on social media>it's a bunch of retards saying they prefer dawn of war red laser beams to yellow bolts for lasgunsEvery single dawn of war player deserves death. Fucking secondaries.
>>98215951Nah ngl man me and my friends ALWAYS pictured all lasweapons as red laser beams even before Dawn of War existed and that art sucked
>>98215908>TQi dont think they actually care
>>98215908What's with sudden surge of MM popularity? People finally realize how based they are?
>>98215955>ngl manwell that's rock solid
>>98215919Those tits are so fake it's comical.
i got given a box of three IG Basilisk, a baneblade, a few old tempestus scions on sprues, and some chaos marine raptors on 25mm bases.i dont play these factions so IDK if these are still worth a damn, any insight pls?
>>98215947Can confirm, I am the lunch.
>>98215971Kek, those malstrains probably do not taste good
>>98215966Have you tried looking on ebay?Open wide Anon, here comes the spoon:You can sell all of that easily for 80% of GWs MSRP. If you put it in for 75%, it will be sold within a day.
>>98215908Armies for this feel?
>>98215981Imperial Guard /yourdudes/ custom regiment
>>98215981Guard i assume
>>98215981Hard R mageddon
>>98215951>LASguns>art shows generic firearm muzzle flashesngl, anon, I think your artist literally didn't know the weapons were supposed to be firing lasers
>>98215951Too late, I have just started a new DoWII campaign
I like orks :D
>>98216005it's official artwork from the 2e imperial guard codex in 1995. Dawn of War players are subhuman secondaries and GW should have hired death squads to punish Relic for their errors after the first game's release.
>>98215981I kneel before the Votannfag and acknowledge that they're Gundam instead of Destiny.
>>98215956I like that vehicle. Are those your models your playing around with?
>>98215951>>98216012>muh official codex>as if GW itself doesn't change these kinds of minor details all the timethey look like shit and that's the only thing that matters no matter how much you squeal about people who played a 20 year old video game
>>98215908>TQWhat's the point of a war of you aren't going to commit any crimes against humanity?
>>98216012>official artwork from the 2e imperial guard codex in 1995This does not mean that the artist knew he was supposed to be drawing laser guns.
>>98216029It doesn't matter. Soon GW will take charge and will be putting everyone who prefers red dawn of war beams in death camps. Clock's ticking, anon!!!
>>98216012First off, no it isn't you fake grog newfag, this is the 2nd edition Guard Codex from 1995. The one you posted is the 3rd edition Codex from 1999. Secondly, there were multitudes of artists working for GW over the years and many of them were completely inconsistent with one another on portrayals of things like weapons, so it doesn't fucking mean anything. There were already Black Library novels describing lasgun fire as "ruby beams" before Dawn of War came out. You are a pretender who knows nothings.
>>98216020I was playing around with grok, but its also my models. The Truck is actually the Mauler by Wargames Atlantic, with a printed plow.
>>98216055>lasgun shooting whiteclock's ticking, anon. those shitty looking dawn of war beams are gonna be forgotten about under GW nuspeak. anyone who speaks of them will be dragged to the rape dungeons where they will be subjected to the deviant whims of robin cruddace
>>98216055>>98216069Guess why lasguns were called flashlights. Not because of red beams.
>>98215981You want a man crying over mommies?
desu I think the yellow explosive bolts would look a lot better on film and television than the red lasgun beams from DoW, just look at how awkward and cheap the red beam lasgun effects look in darktide cinematics.
>>98216069>>98216072you lost
>>98216005its pretty common for the lasguns to be interpreted as having muzzle flashes. pic related shows an actual gun having a generic muzzle flashes and the lasgun having a starry one.
Your new lasgun has arrived.
>>98215978lol i dont mean to sell, but as a jumping off point to a larger army
>>98216094Now that's a good one, I like that.
>>98216088>just look at how awkward and cheap the red beam lasgun effects look in darktide cinematics.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38mXmzdJF9Q
>>98216099Baneblade as a starting point for a regiment of /yourdudes/ always works. Shadowsword version is probably the best.
>>98216094Its always "normal" muzzle flashes
>>98216106>they're firing yellowish red boltsThank fuck. If you look at the ingame cinematics you'll see how janky the red beams looked.
>>98216127I think weird janky "evaporating" laser is more interesting that anemic blaster.
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
even some more recent art shows the lasguns with yellow/white light. It’s not a topic I feel strongly about, but to be fair to DoW, it’s a 22 year old game. I suspect really making las gun shots look like convincing white light was beyond their capabilities
>>98216124I have yet to find any official guard picture with red star wars style laser beams.
>>98216139Iirc, lasguns fire red bolts, lascannons fire blue bolts.Would make sense that something inbetween would fire yellow bolts, due to light wavelength.
>>98216134Star Wars blasters look better. It's as simple as that. There's a reason a lot of people mod their fallout games to have that style of laser bolt - it just has more impact visually. Beams do work for large scale, continously firing laser weapons, though. Think of the big glassing beams from halo or the death star laser.
>>98216094That one attempts to show a beam being emitted, not just generic muzzle flash like the bolter. The beam is crucial in visually communicating that this is a laser weapon, not a conventional firearm.
>>98215951Don't care, the secondaries are right on this one. Making lasguns look identical to tracers is stupid. The red beams were actually pretty unique.
Post armies
>>98216172But its Las, not Laser!
hellblaster status?
>>98216174>The red beams were actually pretty unique.Yeah, very unique
>>98216167You forgot that terminator also used the star wars blaster bolts because it looks better
>>98215908It's not a crime if it's against the xenos
>>98216176
>>98216187Those are red bolts, anon. Not beams. I realize it's difficult being legally blind but you shouldn't embarrass yourself like this. The yellow bolts GW now mandates with an autistic rage look more like Star Wars than the DoW beams.
...well at least arguing and shitflinging about what lasgun fire should look like is on-topic autism.
>>98216187I liked the bolts more because its like star wars..
>>98215682Nurglings can't do actions due to OC 0.
>>98216144>star wars style laser beamsStar Wars blasters shoot bolts of energy, not a continuous beam, retard-kun. The most recent trailer GW put out shows lasguns functioning the same way. Only GW does it worse by making them just look like boring tracers.
>"i like the beams more">"but the bolts look better, there's a reason why star wars and terminator went with laser bolts instead of laser beams for everything except the death star, beams look kind of bad in comparison onscreen">"but the beams look heckin unique!!!"holy shit did redditors infiltrate this thread
>>98216221I think they look cool in the new trailer :D
What old kit would make the best source of bare heads for White Scars Scouts? Old WFB Marauders don't have so many of them after all. Would Space Wolves heads fit or are they bigger than Scout heads?
Plasma already fires bolts, so lasguns should fire beams. It doesn't matter what color they are, although somewhere in the red-orange-yellow spectrum looks best for lasweapons and blue-green-white for plasma. Melta should be clear heat-haze waves with a ghostly white glow coming out of the barrel and the target on the other end "slowly" melting. This concludes my TED talk on Imperial energy weapons.
>>98216231>star wars and terminator went with laser boltsBlasters and plasma guns are not lasers, anon. They shoot ionized gas, not light. 40k stole Lasguns from Dune, where they are depicted as shooting continuous beams.
>>98216221They look perfectly fine. Star Wars lasers look idiotic tho.
>>98215919why is so much female cosplay just coomer-bait slop
Head is still placeholder, but made the kneepads a tad bigger & added pockets on the pants.Old FW krieg engineers in the nu krieg style.
>>98216240cathay
>>98216249Literally the same shit but with a different color, bud
>>98216247Faggot
>>98216272Not an argument. Imagine being such a retard that you can't get basic science fiction shit right.
>>98216265Because the objective is to be sexy/admired.The same way that a lot of guy's costumes are meant to make them look cool/admired.There are 2 kinds of cosplayers:>I want to have fun and dress up like character(s) I likeand>I'm just here to get social validation
>>98216265Because deep down all women know their only real value is being wanted sexually and everything they do involving fashion, cosplay, etc. is just signaling their sexual desirability to potential mates.
>>98216240Cathay peasants, maybe Fireforge Games Mongols, Samurai or Ashigaru? Warlord Games WW2 Japanese maybe.
>>98216276>you can't get basic science fiction shit righIt's FICTION you twit it's whatever you want it to be.
Would the Night Lords in their current form ever be able to mass enough marines for a full invasion or are they more like specialists who attach themselves to a larger coordinated effort?
>>98216293Well decimus was amassing the night lords into legion numbers again but then ADB said fuck you and stopped writing about the NL
>>98216276Please understand, he never read Dune.
>>98216286well it sure ain't their comedy
>>98216247>blasters aren't laser weapons!!!>sw laser cannons and turbolasers (directly ripped off for lascannons and...turbolasers) fire the same slow moving bolts as blasters>characters onscreen refer to blasters as firing lasersand before you go "but muh eu," i"m gonna cut you off and call you gay for referencing secondary sources.
>>98216293They lost to fucking genestealer cultists in a campaign. They can't do anything right anymore. Also >>98216298
>>98216247Please refer to >>98216088's image and the fact that Dune lasguns are way more powerful than a S3 statline and can hardly be called small arms. They're fucking star wars blasters. It even reads like they are in the description.
so if i dont want to take a bunch of fire dragons, am i basically obligated to take bright lances on all my vehicles in every slot possible?or can i get by against armor with lethal hit combos from other units?
>>98216306America lost to farmers with AKs, twice. What's your point?
>>98216324You won't take out tanks with shuriken fire.
>>98216306>They lost to fucking genestealer cultistsPeople will say this like it's a mark of shame, not understanding that Genestealer Cults are one of the deadliest and most capable combatant forces in the galaxy and canonically the number one cause of declarations of Exterminatus from Terra, because getting rid of them is so difficult it's considered better to just burn the whole planet from orbit.
>TQIt's only a war-crime if I say it is. And I write the laws.
>>98216344It also doesn't help that usually once you know they're there suddenly there's a much bigger problem
>>98216361While this is true, even without a Hive Fleet arriving the GSC alone are capable of overthrowing entire planets and then spreading everywhere like a cancer.
>>98216379Unless there's a hive fleet approaching they usually don't unless they're found out though.Really GSC are the best for covert ops/crime noir/horror stories because of how versitile they are
>>98216391The particular situation referenced earlier about the Night Lords was on Vigilus, which wasn't a Hive Fleet invasion at all but an Ork WAAAGH followed by a Chaos invasion, which had forced the GSC out of hiding early to fight off these threats, and that sort of a thing can happen all the time.
>>98216306Is not that they lost to GSC. That is to be expected since usually you are facing a significant portion of the planet when GSC are operating in the open.The issue with the NL was the retarded fuckers sent a token force to face GSC and are surprised that their meme terror tactics do not work against Nids LARPing as humans.
Ahahahahahaha
>>98216356hes so hot onfg
>>98216436every detachment should have just costed 1 point with the same 3 strats, 1 rule and 2 enhancements. that way it really encourages mixing and matching regardless of your playstyle. some army lists/playstyles being arbitrarily locked to only a single detachment and straight up unplayable below 2k pts is just asinine
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98216436okay do it again but combine DG, TS, WE, EC, and CSM
>>98216458Can they combine?
>>98216458Why? You can run every SM combination together but you can't mix and match those ones. What strange Imperial copium is this?
>>98216455how come mods dont ban this spamming nigger but gave warnings to Dark Eldar refresh is coming anon? is the vtumor ratfag a mod?>>98216466you can't combine a dark angels 1 point detachment with a blood angels 2 point detachment but this chart includes it anyway
>>98216436how is that calculated? just the number of shit giving aura per the number of units they can apply that aura to? because then it's understandable why marines with their bloated number of redundant units and characters and 4 supplements of characters would reach that number, but at the end of the day it's just 10 times the number of shit that gives rerolling ones separately, not really game changing steps up.
>>98216436>space marines literally have 10x the attention of the next most spotlighted factionwhy do I still play this semen slurping game
>>98216472Please explain to me how you can use a Space Wolf 2DP detachment with a 1DP Blood Angels detachment?
>>98216478It's available detachment combos.>>98216483The chart already excludes that. It just counts combining core detachments with chapter-specific ones.
>>98216496Its disingenuous. If it excludes though then each of those codex should be considered separate armies just like CSM.
post models. give love to models
>>98216475>gave warnings to Dark Eldar refresh is coming anonI have literally never seen that happen
>>98215908>TqThe Starbinder expects control and precision in all things, if a so called “war crime” would lead to a quicker victory then so be it. That said there is no mercy for those who oppose His luminous will or for the vile Alien. Good sons and daughters of the imperium, led astray, can be brought back to the proper path. But fire is the only answer for those who willingly give in to damnation. The craftsman who abuses his tools should not be surprised when they fail him. Nor should he be afraid to replace one if it warps beyond recovery.
>>98216501>Its disingenuous. If it excludes though then each of those codex should be considered separate armies just like CSMAnon is being honest. Marines are just the same shit with a different paint job
>>98216186Le le ecks dee XDXD funny meme!!1!1! XD XDXD
>>98216501But they combine with the main SM book and generic SM detachments, whereas the CSM ones do not.
Who here actually collects gsc?
>Sigvald gets bespoke army rules that let him respawn on the battlefieldFucked up that there's no detachment to do the same for the so-called "Eternal". Codex writers need to step up their game.
>>98216186isnt the mutant dead? why even bother when mods successfully killed him.>>98216541Okay, so then Dark Angels will have double the combos of Emperor's children. I want to see that data, instead of hiding it for a meme chart.
>>98216551>Codex writers need to step up their game.people have been asking for that since 10th started.
>>98216455Every fucking thread, this is a prime example of the eternal autistic australian. You lot think you've it bad, this is the level of autism thats everywhere in this fucking country
>>98216550Trazyn
>>98216551Why are people still playing modern 40k?The game started to go to shit when 5th dropped. You can salvage things from newer editions, but thats about it.
>>98216530quick, someone do the autism spectrum gradient to this list
>>98216568I like actually playing games, and having played multiple editions its all the same shit at the end of the day.Drink beers, roll dice, your favorite model dies in 1 hit turn 2.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98216568You werent playing during 5th edition
>>98216577Youve been feeling it long enough, grey knights will get their refresh before deldar
>>98216475I would never work for free.>>98216560It's actually the limited edition version you can't get anymore.
star wars blasters are magnetically jacketed plasma. It is "reloaded" from a gas canister, and the gas is then excited into plasma using a battery, which is then jacketed, and then expelled. it's nothing like 40k lasguns, which are traditional energy, super-excited photon particles. Completely different technologies, and as a result, 40k lasguns were always a clean red line that behaved like a laser pointer just slower for the sake of the audience watching, while star wars blasters is a traveling bolt of plasma. Ironically, star wars blasters are actually more like 40k plasma guns.I personally do not like the change. I liked that lasguns were literally just light emitters, and they were visually very distinct and likeable in darktide, the dawn of war franchise games, the space marine games, and tons of animated cinematics over the years. The change to being slow traveling yellow lines makes them less visually distinct.In other words, it was completely fine before, and the change is completely unnecessary even for corporate copyright reasons since they've only accidentally made them more similar to star wars blasters.
>>98216561jej
>>98216551This is a really fun army of renown. AOS writers took so fucking long to start writing fun rules for 4e but it's been pretty good ever since Khorne. There's a magic item you can give another hero, which is a huge mirror, that actively nerfs them (reduces their attacks to 1) but gives Sigvald +20 OC when he's next to them.
Every "unique" marine army should be rolled back into the marine codex like the glorified pallet swaps they are
>>98216588Just die already
>>98215919Whenever I see whatsername doing these orgy shoots, I can't help but respect the dedication to assemble 5 complete Guardsman uniforms. It would have been easier to simply dress the men in surplus fatigues with some aquilla patches and call it a day.
>>98216451>only good detachment is punishment locked to 3DP for being the highest playrate (because its the only good detachment)>3DP detachment is also set to fucking purge the foes so is pushed even further to the singular best option by a massive marginthis shit is so ass...
>>98216600Not until I finish painting my backlog
>>98216596Yeah good one ratfag tell us some more
>>98216576Not exactly. The bitching about 5th is because it started to introduce things that people are still complaining about today.True Line of Sight, very gamy mechanics like the wound spread the issue with them was not horrible as people make it to be and introducing free gear. (Devastator squads having free heavy bolters is an example of that)Older editions are not perfect, but they didn't introduce mechanics just to sell shit. Like the laser pointer of 5th.
>>98216606I think i know who you meananyway the techpriest is https://www.instagram.com/zev_cos
>>98216612>more drybrushed tau vehiclesPlease no make it stop
>>98216596Noooo we can't say anything good about aos nooooo
>>98216551Why the fuck is modern 40k so allergic to the concept of flavor?
>>98216614>ratfag??
>>98216645It's the mindbroken thread policer, ignore it
>>98216550Me, I cant post pics rn though, maybe later
>>98216644Because this game is about space marines and stuff for them to kill
>>98216651Ok ratfag
>>98216651Imagine being such a loser that you spend all day powerlessly screeching at shitposters on a mongolian underwater basket weaving forum
>>98216638What do you mean?
Theres marines, and then theres stamp collecting. Thats all that exists in 40k
>>98215971what's the deal with em Necromunda genestealers, anyway? Why are they so fucked up?
>>98216670As opposed to the loser (you) that posts here every day?
>>98216674There's also the friends we made along the way.
>>98216680uh oh looks like somebody had their feathers ruffled
>>98216671I dont want to see your shit painting ever again
>>98216679Some kind of superweapon was used to collapse an entire Hive on top of them and they are the degenerated morlock offspring living in the underhell.
>intercessors cost 3.60 a model now on ebaywelp, I may get my wish to do an intercessive army if things pan out with the new muhreenie codex>I dont want the grenade launchersCan I get rid of the over-kneepad things? I have edited stuff before, I'm just not sure of my skills in that regard.
>>98216598I want to go the other way, give every single faction like 6 different codexes with their own unique units.
40k does a great job of tricking their fans into thinking their most generic and boring army is unique and interesting with all those paint sche- I mean chapters
>>98215908>do /yourdudes/ enjoy any warcrimes they commit, or do they only do it because it’s “necessary”I play Iyanden, so they say they hate it, but badass robots chopping the fuck out of mon'keigh is too cathartic not to enjoy.
>>98216679There is regular Genestealer cult and Space AIDS genestealer Cult (Malstrain)Basically Mechanicus Mago try to make a space AIDS for nids and ended pulling a Wuhan and infecting himself as the genestealers.So nuke the site from orbit making malstrain even more strange and the few non infected genestealers avoid them like the plague. Since their Brood Mind is corrupting.
>>98216714It's the sonic fandom of miniature games
>>98216691Then I guess I still need to improve my painting :DFor my devilishes/hammerheads I doubt I'll do much drybrushing since they're mainly smooth surfaces, I've been thinking that I'll just do the poor man's airbrush and go over them with different red sprays to get a quick Camo base then pick out any patterns that appear.
>>98215971>>98216717interesting, thanks for the answer. Seems to me that Magos Biologis was at least partially succesful in fucking them up
>>98215908If using MK ultra style psychic driving to convince gue'la to throw their lives away for the greater good of the first among equal Ethereal caste is wrong. Then I don't want to be right.
>>98216714It's a pretty damn good business strat. It's natural that you develop Stockholm syndrome when you spend eight fucking hours painting Space Marines, and the fact that GW already has a story based on your favorite color means you have more reason to keep coming back. You pick red because it's your favorite color, learn that the red ones are cursed vampires, and think "neat, I'm the vampire guys".
>>98216733He is part of the malstrain brood mind now. The fucker keeps returning like some meme swarmlord, but of space aids.Also he didn't actually achieve anything since regular GSC are still in Necromunda and Necromunda/Imperium had to nuke one of the biggest collection of ancient human knowledge just to contain the fuck up.
>>98216701nail clippers and a file you moron
>>98216749Once people notice the scam they either became a marine hater or a marine apologist.
>>98216742I wonder what they do with all the severed pinky fingers.
>>98216717Now I kind of what a 40k computer game where you play a GSC preparing a planet for invasion, only with the entire thing depicting the cult as unequivocal good guys because its all from the cultists' point of view. Call it Warhammer 40k: Ascension.
>>98216714>>98216756(you)
>>98216760Well 40k is just proxy wars between cults.Have you ever wonder why everyone is so bald and whenever they can have extra extremities?
>>98216768>>98216773marine apologist must be hanged
>>98216774I knew the Orks were genestealers the whole time. Just like the bald primarchs.
>>98216779space marine game, shitposter-kun
>>98216774I assume everyone's bald because lice are common as fuck in Hive cities. That's why long hair was a status symbol for such a long time, it signified sophisticated hygiene.
>>98216752>file>doesn't mind micro scratch marks while painting in layers
>>98216796220 grit is undetectable under a thin layer of primer alone, hobbylet
>>98216796Some liquid green stuff and a putty knife you're not entering golden deamon
>>98216788Clearly it is a Genestealer cult proxy war simulator.
>>98216714Space marines are the most popular because you can't beat the simplicity and cool factor of super soldiers in heavy armor with big guns.That's it.
>>98216784No, the top knot guys are Orks. This is well known fact.For example Abaddon is a Kommando Ork doing an infiltration mission.
>>98216820CSM are cooler though
>Thought I closed the lid of Black Legion>I didn't>Was grabbing something and accidentally spilled most of the bottle over the table>Start panicking>Try to clean it up with some paper towels>Lift up towel>Paint spills onto my white couch>Panic harder>Run to the kitchen to try and clean the couch>Hear the door open as my mom's home for her smoke break>Panic more>We eventually clean it up>Completely lose all reason to paint
I can't wait to get the Armageddon box but I had to pay for the asstartes too space marines have got too much love, we need all the zeno armies updating. Orks range still needs more refreshes to go.
>>98215908>TQI guess /mydudes/ lean more towards "because it's necessary".But lot of it is just because they can't be bothered to give a fuck. Their chapter got called in to do a job, they are gonna do the job and then move on. Shelling civilian encampments hardly helps.
>>98216849>We eventually clean it upAcrylic paint? On fabric? How?
>>98216881Nothing good ol Dawn dish soap can't fix
>>98216830Yeah, in the same cringe deviantart sonic OCs made from traced art with retarded extra details are cool.
>>98216861>Orks range still needs more refreshes5 more beast snigger kits it is.
After years of paypiggery, James Workshop rewards you by letting you choose one discontinued kit (plastic, resin, or metal) to bring back as a MtO run. What would you choose, and why? Pic for me; they were so enjoyable to paint and all of the extra bits were so nice.
>>98216889Either that or the BA tacticals box just for the bits. I'm glad I bought a bunch of the banner bits and can use them in newer squads.
>>98216881Nta, but I've had a similar experience with some white trackies, pretty much get them into some water asap to dilute it and once you're ready use a good detergent to clean them.
>at lgs>need to shit>go to the bathroom>it's locked>wait outside>taking a while>notice that the eldar tranny and his(her?) opponent are gone but their armies are still on the table>hear a loud feminine moan from the bathroomwhy are they like this.
>>98215971Really wish that Malstrain had another kit as an analogue to acolyte hybrids; I'd love to have more fucked-up malformed genestealer bits to use for my planned chaos gsc
>>98216759feed kroot
>>98216896kek
>>98216896fake, LGS trannies don't have sex in public bathrooms, they ask people to go back to their stinky 1 bedroom apartment to have sex. they do play eldar tho, or night lords.
>>98216896I wish my lgs had a bathroom
>>98216759Its ritualistic scaring done at birth.
I like Eldar, I just think they're neat :)
>>98216903It would've been nice if they added some extra arms or something to this brood scum upgrade kit.It'd be very fitting for even the 4th generation malstrain hybrids to look more mutated and fucked up.
>>98216889probably the old metal Demon Prince. he looked really cool and similar to the artwork. also most of the OG necron line. i don't like the new style all that much. i really wish they went more in the Terminator direction than whatever we have now
>>98216934>man_I_just_want_to_fuck_an_elf.jpgI don't blame you though, they are very nice.
>>98216889definitely the warp hunter or spiritseer. I never managed to get either before they got discontinued.
The rumored space marine battle force next month better be good additions for my Ultramarines.
well, I’m now the proud owner of gorkamorka: da roolz. unfortunately, I bought it thinking it would have some background about gorkamorka, short stories, pics of armies, ect. and then da uvver book and digganobz was going to expand that scope further. in reality it turns out da roolz book… was just roolz! who would have thought? anyway, I’m still happy to have another ork book to add to my collection.
>>98216953>they are very niceNo they aren't, they're very demanding bitches. That's why I love them.
>it's another 40k YouTube channel sells out and just makes videos to shill their shitty merchandise.Sad, it's a shame there's not many comfy 40k tabletop channels that aren't sellouts anymore.
Idk why they had to attach force dispositions to detachments, just let us choose whatever
>>98217020nobody cares about your blogpost
>>98217020>muh youtubekill yourself asap, you faggot
>>98217032I forgot they don't have youtube in India.
>>98216923Where does the manager go?
>>98216475>>98216560why do you guys hate this ritualposter in particular when >>98216010 and >>98216136 do the same shit?
I'm tired of lying and pretending. Primaris helmets are cooler than the older helmets. Beaks were fine though.
>>98217055>guys>pluralit's one wannabe janny seethinganybody who actually gets upset over ritualposts just filters them
>>98217051They probably have an employee one hidden somewhere they just don't want to clean timmy's greasy mcdonalds diet shits off the floor and walls.
>>98217059Good, Primaris are better in every way compared to those shit looking firstborn garbage models, only pathetic boomer faggots who are most certainly still virgins think first born are cool cuz of muh nostalgia.
>>98216888What were they thinking
>>98217059I KIND of agree in the sense I like how it keeps to the knightly aesthetic that space marines have. the problem is that literally every release has been MK10 after MK10 with absolutely no variety, and its shoved beakies to the side along with all the others marks.
>>98217068If i ever lose a match i make sure to take a SEETHING CHAOS POOP in their john and make it unusable the rest of the day.
>>98217071>t. never painted a primaris model
>>98217068When anon mentioned the store's bathroom I thought he meant the one that's supposed to be employee-only, but that they still share with players/painters when needed.
>>98217023I'm expecting compfags to start complaining about dispositions and either gw or tournament orgs caving in and altering the system.
>>98217072I personally really dislike them, but the reasoning makes sense. snakebites have been the least popular klan since orks released and its suspected that’s because they have no actual models dedicated to them (closest was boarboyz, but they got squatted fast), so a release wave of snaggas would give some good snakebite representation. I’m not an accountant at GW of course, so I’m not sure if they flopped or not, but it did touch a market of snakebite enjoyers that otherwise would be shit out of luck without it.
>>98216889These WE aspiring champions.
>>98216889oh i have a box of these exact niggas back when i wanted to do daemonkin. Their bits will serve as sacrifice to chaos up the heresy models for 40k
Fine I'll admit it, the prepainted terrain and objectives are day 1 buys for me.
>>98216889this guyi just think he's neat
>>98216889Stormtroopers, the whole range just like the Vostroyans
>>98216435Do their meme terror tactics work on anyone that isnt imperial guard?
>>98217117Now that I think of this tournament orgs are the most inconveninced here because previously you could prepare all missions and terrain in advance, but if terrain and mission depends on how players get paired you now have a bunch of busywork between rounds. Unless of course you do it differently from what gw told you.
>>98216889I wouldn't mind pic related, but I'm not paying the ridiculous price James will ask for it.
>>98216889killzone octarius terrain. even though I’m confident it’ll be rereleased soon as long as I trust the plan.
>>98217167this is cool they should have one of these for every faction
>>98216861Honestly hope 11th edition goes into "pity character" mode until they pull their head out of their ass and make proper modular kits again. We've seen the Necromunda gangs, we know they can still do it proper.
>>98216936It's not really an upgrade kit, just a bunch of heads on the Malstrain Genestealer sprue.
>>98217124The khorne symbol mask is fun
>>98216889The original Warhammer Quest box with all the heroes and monsters.
>>98216889For me it's the 5th edition failcast Haemonculus. It's one of the models that started me collecting Dark Eldar when I first saw it new, but the one I had was super shit quality and I've never found a good one that wasn't damaged on the secondary market because they replaced it in 7th and all of them had horrible defects.
>>98217000>they're very demanding bitchesOn the contrary, an Eldar woman in a civilian environment would be quite hospitable so long as you bathe twice a day and don't just sit around all day.
>>98216889metal hivetyrantno model feels better, all nids player deserve the chance to have that lead weight of a model
>>98216889i want the helmet most of all
>>98216518
why is 40k face book and retarddit spamming that all black templars players are now Sigismund? the fucks going on?.
>>98217299Unironically I think it's all one crazy person doing that
>>98217020>but first a word from the channels sponsor!> streaming live battle report, constantly interrupted by people subbing>whoa thanks flippateedoo46 for the 3 months another gamer joins the nerdlegion very cool!>GW just broke 11th edition and theyre completey fucked and shitting their pants>GW hates you and rips you off and I am forced to buy everything I complain about>british accents
>>98217269They remade something very similar to this for the arch-sybarite in the hand of the archon kill team. It's lacking the axe head at the top, but if you have extra blade bayonet attachments from the splinter rifles there's one that looks exactly like that you could glue on to it.
>>98217341The face and eyes are completely different and the spike nose is the coolest part of the original.
>>98215908>TQI’d say somewhere in between. It’s less “enjoyment” or “necessity” and more “they deserved it.”
>barrel drill anon would be proudGot a new drill bit just eyeing what to get. Use a pushpin to start the pilot hole and started drilling.
>>98216172Las guns are definitely not lasers. They have kinetic force, recoil and impact. They require silencers to not have an audible report, and you can hear the bolts whizz by you on a miss. They do sometimes cauterize flesh depending on the writer.Definitely in the blaster style of energy weapon.
>>98217243>so long as you bathe twice a day and don't just sit around all day.Such unbearable standards.
So, detachments. I think most of our army would be unaffected by the actual traits, and only a choice models would be in them?It's Formations 2.0, essentially.I mean the traits, not the stratagems.
So MFM tomorrow. But also designer's commentary to discuss all the shit that's not quite in line yet?
>>98217020Turning 40k into a job sounds like a nightmare. Imagine being forced to be happy about 11th? Or just deciding to not play? This is some monkeys paw shit
>>98217446A lot of that is probably being saved for their app update on Saturday with the expanded rules.
>>98217117The system sucks ass regardless of whatever compfags say>>98217165They said this in the TO callThey want every store to be a "baseball field" the same way every field has different home run lengths or something. Im repeating what they said ad verbatim
Can't decide on one unforgiven chapter to paint, would it be retarded to paint my collection as multiple different kinds of 'em? Like a joint campaign or some shit, like each unit from a different chapter or something.
>>98217387>definitely not lasersCan we stop playing these silly fucking games? The core rulebook from 3rd edition explicitly says that they are laser weapons that fire beams of focused light.
What are the odds of Techmarines getting refreshed and them getting their harnesses and Servitors back? Or are Servitors too grimdark for NuMarines?
>>98217551Servitors belong to AdMech nowAt the time they weren't a faction so it was okay for Space Marines to have them
Holy shit, can you fags shut the fuck up about lasguns? They fire explosive yellow star wars laser bolts now, they probably made the change for the tv show and whatnot, shut up and deal with it. Looked fine in the fuckin cinematic trailer, and it pissing off secondaries is funny.
>>98217560I don’t really get how knowing what lasgun fire used to look like is secondary behavior.
>98217560They shoot red laser beams because I say so and it just makes sense. Yellow bolts are lame and gay
>>98217560>Erm, actually the nu-40k cinematic contradicts a core rulebook written by the people who invented the settingThe secondary is you.
>emperor: can you guys protect the imperium plea->dark angels: HALF OF US FELL TO CHAOS NOOOOOOO WE WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN AAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!>emperor: I forgive you now can you just do your jo->dark angels: NOOOOOOOOO WE HAVE TO SPENT ALL OUR TIME SCOURING THEM FROM THE GALAXY!!!!!!!!!!!!!>emperor: please just stay focused guy->dark angels: REPENT!!!!!!! FOR TOMORROW YOU DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!>emperor: I'll just get the ultramarines to do it...
>>98217576heated air burns a different color>recent drone russia footage, lasers are violet
>>98217617Wut? Violet is low wavelength so probably bad for killing drones.
>>98216045the Trueborn helmets are cool but it's hard to get your hands on them, I think they work better for Hand of the Archon when played in 40k tabletop to differentiate them from normal kabalites.
>>98217617wars post 2007 are disappointing
>>98217020man, if you are watching them for free you can skip the channel sponsor so they can eat.
>>98216889>reward is to paypig hardert-thanks master....
>>98217617that's not heated air it's scattered laser light
>>98217145Good taste. I miss crusader units.
>>98216889metal StormtroopersVarious metal inquisitor modelsI wouldnt buy them they would be overpriced
>>98217655I didnt say it was heated air in the image. Just mentioning why it's not yellow. Agreeing with:>>98217576
>>98217656kino
>>98217649nah that bit was kino
>>98217588Here's an even earlier source :)
>>98216972your feet always look so clammy, cold and maybe in a cold sweat. it scares me.
12th edition when?
>>98217145I still own this dude, at some point I want to turn him into a GSC Locus.
>>98217645It may not be actually violet and the camera is just picking up a beam not visible to the naked eye in a weird way. Or maybe the Russians looted the Moscow rave scene for lights that could blind incoming drones.
>grogs insist for years that lasguns fire yellow blaster bolts that look like regular guns firing, cite old artwork and codices, shitting on dawn of war red beams>gw finally caves to the grogs and says the red beams aren't canon>dawn of war kiddies get upset and start claiming the yellow blaster bolts are "nulore"holy shit.
>>98217681looting a rave sounds more realistic
>>98217683the cycle's gonna repeat itself in a decade anon just give it time
>>98217665Dang that's crazy, and where does it say it shoots bolts? Or that it's not a laser beam? You're not silly enough to think that "a similar effect to a bullet or small shell" means that the energy is fired as a bullet-like projectile, are you? It's clearly saying the effect of the energy blast on the target is similar to a bullet or small shell.
>>98217673In roughly two and a half years
12th sounds like a good number i think i will wait until then
>>98217686Looked it up, it's probably a gallium nitride laser dazzler https://armysbir.army.mil/topics/bright-blue-semiconductor-laser-arrays-military-applications/
>>98217712>blahblahblah i'm a dawn of war secondary
>>98217733thanks anon. reading now
>>98217649Hey we've got live-action version of Damocles Crusade after 2007
>>98217753Not an argument. You've been proven wrong by a core rulebook written by rick priestly himself. All that's left is for you to minge about what color the laser beams are.
Some counts as Raiders. Im just using it as an excuse to paint some one off schemes id never do a full unit for.
>>98217781what do you think is going through the yellow beakies mind at that moment?
>>98217781Also to mash up some CSM and SM bits and empty my bits box.As soon as gw release mk5 for HH im going all in on Red Corsairs.
>>98216889The OG Swordbros. They actually look pretty good on 40mm bases alongside the new kits
>>98217786> tax evasion tax evasion tax evasion steal geneseed tax evasion
>>98217781why did you paint my alligator wife brown?
>>98217780NTA but the fact lascannons and turbolasers exist (which have their names taken from star wars, lascannon being short for laser cannon) implies that they are straight up intended for las weapons to be like star wars blasters visually considering the naming conventions
>>98217812I wanted her to look more like a giant bear/dog/wild boar. Shes covered in fur under all the armour plates.
Why is this fuckery about lasgun beam shots so debated now?
>>98216889Every dreadnought
>>98217888Are the regular dreads gonna get nuked this edition? I'm thinking of picking up a venerable just because they look fun to paint
>>98217853Some retard made a huge stink of it a couple threads ago so people are treating it like the new dreadnought knees meme.
>>98217818Their function is explicitly stated >>98217527, no implications required. Laser weapons emit beams of focused light.
>>98217853What gets me is that the accusation is laser-pointer fans are "secondaries" from Dawn of War 1. That game hasn't been popular in nearly 20 years. There was like a 15 year drought after that where, outside of video games imitating DoW, we never saw what a lasgun firing was supposed to look like outside of paintings.(As for where I stand, the laser pointers look dumb, but the yellow blasts make them indistinguishable from autoguns when they're firing, which is gay. There's got to be a better way)
>>98217924VENTS
>>98217812>would wife an ugly gator alien>but not someone with brown skin4chan in a nutshell
>>98217942>uglyfag
>>98217944>to me she's beautiful
>>98217938>yellow blasts make them indistinguishable from autoguns when they're firingYou do realize that autoguns wouldn't fire tracers, right? It's not like video games where every bullet is a yellow tracer. They'd save tracer ammunition for shit like heavy stubbers which would spit out a tracer every few rounds.boltgun rounds would also resemble tracer due to the rocket effect
>>98217974force every modern nerd to play milsims until they learn that most firearms don't use tracers and you can't see the bullets in flight unless it's loaded with tracers, which in 90% of cases is some variety of machine gun or autocannon
>they fire beams!>no they fire bolts!this is just knees vs vents: imperial guard edition.
>>98217648Yeah, it's weird how rare those glass visor helms are considering how popular they are for conversions. Like wyches only come with two per kit. Two total helmets for a unit of 10. That's extremely unusual for most ranges.
>>98217974>You do realize that autoguns wouldn't fire tracers, right?Neither would Ork shootas, yet watch any official animation (hell, any unofficial one) and you'll see tracers. You know why? Because it looks 100x cooler than the thing that happens when you shoot normal bullets - fucking nothing.
I should have kept this neurotyrant partially assembledI'm a fucking idiot I'm not gonna be able to paint half these areas
Predictions for Warhammer in 10 years>Ferrus Manus regenerates from one of his hands. He comes back and he is a half Necron half human primarch.
>>98218046And he immediately starts plapping Ruby's cheeks in a RWBY crossover.
>>98218046>Predictions for Warhammer in 10 years40k models will twice as detailed, 10000 times larger and so expensive that only the five richest tech oligarchs will own them.
Riveting is basically done. I've started shaping the rotor blades, and half of the landing assembly is basically done and just needs some touch up. Bonus, I have a flyer stand/base to attach it to now. I might actually hit my goal of completing the build before Armageddon launch, these last steps are flying by.
How do I get good at using metallic paints?
>>98218081you get good metallic paints
>>98218066mmm premiumization
>>9821804640k's popularity will crest as the Amazon show captures the general audience's attention. Normies will know a few names from the lore, similar to how they have tangential knowledge of DnD from Stranger Things, but GW will ultimately fail to translate this mass market appeal into more people playing the actual game. This is due to niche appeal of table top wargames in general, but also the high price of entry.
>>98218087>40k's popularity will crestdo you have any idea how long people have been saying that?
>>98218084>vallejo>good metallics
>>98218098(you)
>>98216889The OG land raider. That way SM, CSM, Eldar, IG and Orks all get a kit they can use
>>98218100I'm being genuine, every vallejo metallic I've used has been such dogshit that I just use AK or GW now. TTC isn't great but still better than any vallejo I've used.
>>98218107the vallejo metal color air line is widely regarded to be one of the best metallic paints on the market, possibly THE best
>>98218107skill issue unironically
>>98218112truly do not care at all about what's "widely regarded" considering most of you are mentally retarded>>98218115post models
>>98218127>post models>doesn't post models with demandah, you were shitposting all along
any alternatives or conversions that make dark reapers look a bit better?
>>98218127it sounds like you just suck then. when golden demon winners agree its the best, i dont really care what some anonymous reply fishing contrarian on 4chan thinks
>>98218132yeah I assumed you were a coward lmao thanks for confirming easy slam dunk opportunity to put me in my place and you immediately quiver and squirm>>98218134do you have any original thoughts of your own? if not it would be easier to just link me to the people whose opinions you're regurgitating so I can read from them instead
>>98218139>tourist doesn't know thread etiquette>tries to shitpost>gets easily filtered by thread etiquette>proceeds to melt downevery time lmao
>>98218141too many words
>>98218097This time it's true, because I said it.
>>98218139yeah, my thought is that the paint is good because i've fucking used it and you're a trolling stooge
>>98215951Red beams are great. White beams are fine. Yellow beams or worse, yellow bolts, are fucking retarded. When have you ever seen a yellow laser?
/myguys/? The secret 0th company of the Dark Angels. You wouldn’t know about em.
>>98218155>you're a trolling stoogeI mean I'm gonna be a dick until someone gives me their *own* opinions but I hope we can put that all behind us now that you're opening up a bithave you used other metallics? do any particular ways in which vallejo air are superior stand out to you?I mainly use the airbrush for basecoating with flat colors so the air metallics weren't really on my radar. my experience with the metallics in the game / model ranges were really bad though, lids cracking, separation, terrible coverage, uneven consistency. are you just using them straight out of the pot?
>>98218107Have you tried shaking the bottle first, mongoloid.Exhaust manifold is probably the best metallic on the market.
>>98217226I have this guy sitting around. He's half painted and I'm afraid to strip him because I don't know what strippers are safe for finecast.
>>98218158oh the alpha legionnaires?we already know
>>98218164i have a lot of experience with metallics but after that little trolling tirade i aint telling you shit. go fuck yourself
>>98218133They're a very faithful sculpt of a somewhat goofy legacy design. I think the biggest improvement would probably to clip off the targeting doodads on their heads, but the simplicity of the skull mask also seemed weird to me too.
>>98218173it's not trolling just because you got upset
>>98218149>21 words>too manyshitposters aren't sending their best
>>98216265Easiest way to milk money out of simps
>>98218127I use those 4 vallejo metallics, plus GWs runelord brass, and gw retributor gold.
>>98218196never oblige model requests from people who don't post theirs, they will just shift goalposts or ignore it, or decide you're their new schizo target to spam about
>>98218141>thread etiquette I love the new heights of faggotry achieved everyday
>>98215964>those tits are so fakehow do you know anon?
Cadia Stands
>>98218204>I'm such a tourist I don't know how this place has operated for nearly a decade>this is the thread's problemyou need to go back immediately
>>98218183keep trying>>98218196are you using them straight out of the pot? looks nice>>98218204he's having an asperger's melty, leave him be
>>98218211>STILL tryingyikes
>>98218205NTA but the way the costume frames them is incredibly convenient for a set of those silicone breast vests, it lines up perfectly with where the silicone components would end. The skin looks unnaturally smooth and blemish free, though that could certainly just be editing work of which cleaning up complexion that much is fairly common in cosplay photoshoots, admittedly.
>>98218211Yep theyre alcohol based i think, so you cant really thin them. But basically straight from the pot. They need to be shaken heaps at first though because the alcohol and pigment separate like crazy.
>these paints are good>"noooo i dont believe you you're all retards">>>>>"okay so maybe tell me about these good paints"kindergarden behavior
>>98218205For the low price of $200, you too can "cosplay" as a woman.
>>98218220I looked up how to buy them and the only source I can find in this third world hellhole is a chinese guy selling them for 35 bucks a popIf I can get my hands on them for a more normal price I'll join team Vallejo Defenersthanks for posting
>>98218231a man with healthy testosterone levels identifies and rises to a challenge btw
I LIKE ORKS XD
>>98215919Thinking about making an Autarch cosplay but it would be a ton of work
I just want lost and the damned to be a fully supported army with flavorful rules. I fucking hate how we have to bear guard getting another wave of redundant kits before traitor guard can be a template army.
>>98218292I think the only cosplay I can pull off as a 5’6 chud is maybe a dwarf. I think I’d rather go to jail cosplaying as a fyreslayers before I take up votann stuff.
>>98218292>carve styrofoam>seal it with flex seal spray/rubber coating>attach to already created items like safety helmets and safety pads>buy oversized diving suit(dont get used, they pee in them)>profit
>>98218196Whats the KINO model on the right? Excellent painting
>>98218314Good news, you're average fire caste Tau height
>>98218220>they're alcohol basedJust like me
>>98218300>with flavorful rulesWhy do you think you deserve this when nobody else gets it
I've found MP3s but where's the epub?
>>98218364nvm just found it lmao
So, what exactly stops Eldar from being Tzeentch corrupted? Eldar are magical, mystical, and want to massively change the galaxy. They seem almost perfect for BTC (Big Tzeentch Corruption).
which EC tormentor do people usually give the banner?
In His name, we hold, unflinching. Armed with faith our will weeds out. In his light, a toil unending. Oath and honor, duty bound!Zarkov! Dead and lost forever! Vengen! Taken from us too! Ruban! Perish, all is lost! All gone within our hidden tomb!
>>98218316Your average wetsuit/dry is like 300$ new you retard, I've never seen a more larp coded post in my life
>>98218370slaanesh called dibs
>>98218370They actively train to use their psychic powers from an early age, with a strong emphasis on avoiding the attention of chaos. The most psychically active among them, seers, use runes and witch helms to minimize their contact with the warp. Wraithbone, which the entire Craftworld is made from, has a sort of inherent anti-warp and little critters called warp spiders keep daemonic influence out of the infinity circuit. The path system also keeps individuals hyper-focused on one trade, so most of them are too busy basket weaving or whatever to have grand plots or ambitions. They also just have a culture that revolves around hating chaos.
>>98218370They physically can't. The moment they expose themselves to the warp slaanesh eats them.
human supremacy
>>98218046>WarhammerHello tourist. When you are new to something it is generally considered proper form to lurk moar.
What armies are most similar to and most dissimilar to Sororitas in gameplay? They seem kind of unique to me in a weird way?
>>98218454>orcs
>>98218458Also>demonsBut calling it Warhammer seems to be brand new and I'm suddenly seeing it pop up everywhere in just the last couple years, I think it's probably Space Marine 2 that caused this one
>>98218455Index Eldar, another t3 infantry army, had a similar dice pool mechanic to Sisters.
If something in my unit gives everything fnp and it dies during the opponents shooting / fight phase, do i continue to get fnp until the opponents unit ends its activation?
>>98218319Aos nurgle general
>>98218501Why can't 40k have models this good
>>9821850740k needs to be as safe and inoffensive as possible as to not disturb the line going up
>>98218458>>98218459I've been playing since 7th and I still call them orcs and demons. The second one is on purpose because 'daemons' is fucking gay and tryhard.
>>98218534Of all the copy right attempts gw has made demons is the one that I’ll never digest.
Are paint sets worth it?
Finally bit the bullet and ordered the basing supplies for my army. Going for a "beach right at the waters edge" look. Never done water effects but I'm going to try.
>>98218567if the colors that you want at least match the price of getting them separately - yes
>>98218567If you'll use the colours in them, sure. I find it's worth buying the base range of colours for the spectrum then buying specifics down the line you want or need.
>>98218501>that retarded tactical rock
>>98218567I couldn't say, but the john blanche ones are tempting
Army for this feel?
>>98217809I love how midhammer BTs had some mk2 & mk4 amongst them, in addition to armor mixing.I gotta make some conversion with the nuheresy models I still have left
>>98218567Not this one. Theres no way you would use all these niche metallics
>>98216889BA tac box, it's a BA upgrade sprue on steroid and while baby marines look silly their kits are the most fun you can have building minis.
>>98217145Why wasn't he sold separately?If you want the techno archeologist you can get it on its own and in a KT, but shit like the robot or the crusader still didn't get a standalone kit.>mfw they released the zoat & ambull as standalone recentlyMake it make sense
I am mentally prepared for all my armies to get buttfucked by points.
>>98218672It looks to be about the same, maybe a 100 points smaller.
Do you actually want Dark Mechanicus or Traitor Guard? Because they would just be normal Admech/Guard with spikes.
>>98218672Mfw speed freaks are pointed at JUST too cheap that I have to dilute my army theme by adding infantry unitsOr too expensive and I cant bring all my beloved buggies
>>98218679Traitor Guard? Absolutely. They're like 3-4 model releases and a book away from being a full army right now. Might as well finish it.DarkMech though? Eh.
>>98218679>Because they would just be normal Admech/Guard with spikes.yeh just like spiky space marines, spiky eldar and spiky knights. they'd fit right in
>>98218133option one: remove the mouthsoption two: make them edgieroption three: make them angrier option four: use exarch heads
Is 'Eavy Metal actually bad, or are 40k models bad? Why don't they ever look properly good? I can't really articulate what I mean but you feel it in your soul, I know you do
>The only 'girl' faction in the game is sexless nunsCould they even add another 'girl' faction if they wanted? Because the only thing I can think of is some Eldar shit.
>>98218749I just don't fathom why James is afraid of beauty, appeal and attraction>hurr durr it's le grimdark why should you expect beauty modelsNot that, but you know what I mean
>>98218749That's too bad, troonbro. :(
>>98217787Also waiting for mkV. They just announced mkIV so it shouldn't be too long now.
>>98218672I'm just glad wargear costs are coming back. No more being priced for a lascannon when you wanna take a heavy bolter.
>>98218749Female marines that are big boobed amazons would be better.
>>98218369Where?
>>98218749We have Sisters of Silence too
>>98218672There's no way the new MFM will make armies marginally smaller, this is still GW.
>>98218749>another 'girl' faction
>>98218798I remember the massive shitfit people had about the definition of "piled" over this, not even the image itself
>>98218804I remember the usual suspects having numerous massive shitfits about him in general.
POINTS ARE IN
>20 boyz 150 points>grots 45 points>trukks 65 pointsThats the only changes i can see so far
Ork points seem to have gone down across the board
https://mfm.warhammer-community.com/enIt's up
>>98218837>75 points for 10 guardsmen
>>98218837>incubi get extra pricing>when they're objectively one of the worst units in the codex
>>98218837>not on the official website>this early during the day Not real.
>>98218837>Pink Horror from 140 to 150 pointsHilarious if real
>>98218837>defilers are 300+ points>no 1+ model penalty on daemon princes
>>98218854The updated app has the same points its real
>Eldar got nerfed again.
>>98218861NO ES FAKE
>>98218851You shouldn't be running three units of incubi anyway.Check the price of Covens stuff. Or Hellions. Scourges are slightly better too. We made out like bandits.
>>98218848they should cost more.
>>98218798It will never not make me laugh how much of an attentionwhoring drama queen this faggot turned out to be lmao
new edition and all but i'd still like to have indicator what just flat went up without crosschecking lists online
>>98218881>>98218804Context? I remember this guy when he was painting models but missed out on any shit-fit
>cant attach a weridboy to breakas anymore>can attach it to snaggas nowWtf ork bros
Why do they keep nerfing scions?
And there it is. Hidden immediately had to be buffed to 12" for start of game.
>>98218888He stopped playing/collecting because of female custodes and showed this pictures of this models as part of his last gameSomeone here said he "threw them into a pile" while discussing his departure later and there was a two thread argument between people who thought that people were attacking him by saying that (thinking that people were lying about him literally throwing them into a pile) and people who understood that it was a turn of phrase
Nothing in my marine list has gone up so far. A bunch of stuff down 5 or 10 points (phobos LT, eliminators, jump intercessors, librarian)
Told you the point change would be a big nothingburger
Incursors up 5 and Repex up 10, overall my shitty 2k vanguard spearhead list list went down 45 points and I can now take a bonus 1dp detachment. Power creep.
>>98215908>TQWhat? Can't a drukha enjoy some warcrimes just because it is necessary for their immortality?
>Seraphim get a detachment, preemptive points increase>Librarians get a detachment, preemptive points decreaseCould they at least get their shit together enough to determine whether something getting a detachment means it needs to get more expensive or not?
>>98218898It's funny to me that it was a primarisfag that had any integrity to stop playing 40k.
>>98218901Who are you?
Infiltrators up 10 points and now you can't string them out in a line to screen the backfield.
not many wargear options for points lol
>>98218837>15 point penalty on Hekaton kicks in at 2 models.>In an army where its the only 10 model transport.>In an army where you need EVERYTHING to be in a transport or it can't do anything.Seems incredibly harsh, especially considering the 10 point increase on 1 Hekaton.
>>98218927Look behind you...
>>98218837>points up on multiple screamer killerswas it even that good?
>>98218882Hearthguard went down 5 points for 5 mans but have a 10 point penalty for 3rd unit so a wash if running 3 5-man squads and 10 point nerf if running 10 mans.Sagitaur dropped 5 points. Armoured Trailblazers upgrades are super expensive and it gives Disruption so doubt people will be running Sagitaur heavy lists.Pretty much everything in the Votann list except Hearthkyn, Beserks, Yaegirs, and Pioneers got a 3rd unit penalty. Hekatons got a 2nd unit penalty despite being mandatory.for a slow moving army with short range.
>>98218901Nurglings went up 5 pts :(
>>98218897Why does gw constantly FAQ and tinker with a fucking tabletop wargame? Can I not just run the game out of the fucking rulebook like every other fucking game?
>all four Harlequins Detachments have the acrobatics tagFucking why GW?
>only 3 units in the entire marine codex have wargear costswhat is this bullshit?
>>98218983Orks only have 1 (the battlewagon). Cruddace you need to die.
>>98218961I would guess they have an incentive in making multiple purchases of the starter box less viable if I'm correct then the dakka rig will also be limited in a similar way
>>98218897If a unit is behind a solid terrain feature then it cant draw los to enemies and vice versa, so why does detection range matter? They cant be shot at regardless
>How many mortal wounds do you take from Hazardous tests for a combined vehicle/monster and Infantry unit?>The roll would be all at once and it would be 1MW per fail.Interesting. Sounds gamable but not sure how many places it could apply. Makes it worth it to attach a Mek to Mek Gunz just for MW protection
>>98218898SUS
>enhancement is restricted to units that have 5 wounds max>because of the wording, it does nothing unless the model itself heals, which is unlikely to ever happen>35 ptsoff to a great start!
>>98218987KILL ROBIN CRUDDACE AND ALL THE OTHER MTG FAGS TURNING 40K INTO TCG GOTCHA FAGGOTRY!!!!
catachans must be one of the least appreciated regiments in 40k, how come? are guardfags really this allergic to action movie heroes?
>>98218983Probably this will increase when armies get their codexes and weapons that were gimped to try and match shittier options get fixed.Until then it'll just suck paying 20 extra points for Retributor MMs that aren't worth the 20 points.
blood angels pay more for jump pack troops and bladeguard, bit weird since they all spam sanguinary guard anyway
>>98218983Anon everybody knew that was going to be the extent of the war gear points. I am sorry you were expecting old editions point costs, but they were never on the table.
>>98218997this is what you fags deserve. you guys spent years begging gw to make the game "more competitive," bitching about IA because "it's not balanced," you bitched so much about the bitz shop and saying "it should all be in the base kit" that it went away. You spent years bitching about the "timeline not moving forward." The monkey's paw curled, now you got everything you wanted and it turns out it's shit. You deserve this. 40k deserves this. It deserves to suffer the fate of warmahordes. This is your fault. This is what you wished for.
>>98218990Not fully visible. Meaning it still gets the benefit if only half the models are behind solid terrain but all are in the terrain area.
>>98218991I assume for units that have firing deck e.g Hellblaster + Impulsor
>>98218999You mean capeshit??
>>98218999guardfag hereCatachans look like some cheap movie costumes for a predator knockoff.They are in dire need of some redesign to add some flavor to them.
>>98219013no
>>98219018If I wanted to play "action movie heroes" then I'd play fucking space marines
>>98219005>mfw robin cruddace was one of those people and is now holding 40k hostage and breeding an entire new generation of cruddaces to take over after he retires
>>98218999They were so popular they were the first regiment to get a plastic kit. But nowadays I think people prefer the tier 1 operator operating tacticool cod experience
>>98219003This isn't even what they promised. There's plenty of units with multiple wargear choices that need different point costs. They made thunder hammers cost 5 points over the pair lightning claws on terminators, which is good, but they didn't make the cyclone missiles more expensive than the flamer/assault cannon? It's just retarded how few units they did this for.
>>98219005>you guys spent years begging gw to make the game "more competitiveHow the fuck does that translate to turning points into power levels?
>>98219025>no regiment based on the JSDF from evangelion with some tacticool PVS-7 goggles and other late 90s spec-ops shitWhy live?
>>98218901my guardsmen went up from 130 for 20 to 150. i thought 20 man blobs were gettingCHEAPER
>>98219031Ask Robin Cruddace and the 10th edition compfags
>>98218999vietnam war and predator have gone out of fashion, so the catachans have too.
>Celestian Sacresants have a 2+ unit penalty.>Repentia still horrendously overpriced.They really hate Bloody Rose armies don't they?
>>98219033>it should be tacticool - ACK!!!!rick priestley and jes goodwin appear and start strangling you
>>98219008Technically speaking, hellblasters firing out of an Impulsor would just be considered an Impulsor equipped with 5 plasma rifles. So it would use the vehicle rules regardless.
>>98219034cruddace lied to you so that you might buy more models before release, anon.
>>98219038>predator have gone out of fashionSir? your strong foid slop predator?
>>98218999I just don't like their gimmick. I have never really cared for the Vietnam aesthetic and the '80s movie Action Hero trope is really played out.
>>98219034>boyz went from 170 for a 20 boy blob to 150 for a 20 boy blobsucks to suck
>>98219050read The Short Timers
Tau fans are going to be mad about being so good while also awful to play for the next several months
>>98219030This is exactly what they have promised. They said that there will be different point cost for "some" units. You just assumed it would be common.
>>98219052>Boyz cost the same as guardsmenYou heard it here guys. 20 guardsmen can apparently take on 20 Orks.
>Tau are already a strong meta threat>They go way the fuck down in points for no reason>Every other army goes way the fuck up in pointsGLORY TO THE GREATER GOODALL HAIL THE ETHEREALSMY LIFE FOR T'AU'VA
>>98219056>strategem GOTCHA slop instead of the game being based around shooting, assaulting and manueverfuuuuck I hate what this game has become
>>98219056Leave tau players alone, their kroot hounds got nerfed.
>>98219057Motherfucker a single unit in the whole ork codex isn't "some".
>>98219067taco boy
Is painting an Eldar warrior in camo haram? In the Eldar Sketchbook, it's mentioned that an Eldar's armour can shift its colour at the wearer's will. So can the space weaboo Iranians wear camo or not?
>>98219034Termagants and Hormagaunts both went down in points for 20 man blobs so I think it's specifically a role thing. Melee blobs went down because it's harder to get them in engagement range. Homogenous units went down because two units are better than one for action purposes. 20 man guard units are sitting on objectives and bubble wrapping 4 special weapons+a character.
>>98219069It's some in the entirely of the game. Again, you assumed what GW said wasn't going to be interpreted in the worst way. That's on you. You'll learn.
Every eldar unit that was ever worth taking in 10th got random +5/+10 and also tax for the third unit despite eldar being in the bottom 5 in winrate for the last 6 months.Very cool, thanks GW.
>>98219060Well you see they can if you use the glorboblorbo detachment and spend cp on the mumbojumbo strategem that buffs them if they're within 6.7" of <insert character model> anon. The playtesters noticed this and made an ork playtester very upset so gw made them cost the same in points>but I don't want to use the glorboblorbo detachment and activate the mumbojumbo strategem40k is a trading card game disguised as a miniatures game, anon. You must spend hours "optimizing your list" instead of actually hobbying or playing the fucking game. But don't worry, it'll be fixed by the time you actually get around to playing due to the ever-changing meta
>>98218999catachan’s should lean into what vietnam era special forces actually looked like. They should have things like cut-down heavy stubbers.
>>98219076Honestly that's appropriate for Eldar. Considering how much the new edition buff them some point increases were the absolute minimum.
>>98219073>So can the space weaboo Iranians wear camo or not?yes, you can see eldar in camo with their rangers, no reason why you can't use camo on other models, but eldar really really really favour colorful flamboyant schemes, so even then I'd consider using less natural patterns for your camo
>>98219052Big boyz blob is significantly worse now because of new coherency rules, sadly.
>>98219076Ah but anon, you can mitigate that if you take the right combination of units with the right detachment and use the correct strategems within that detachment. If you don't do these things, you will not have fun playing the games. We won't actually tell you what any of that is, you have to "figure it out" because this is how mtg does things and 40k must draw in retarded fucking mtg refugees according to some gw shareholder reportalso our shills will insist that this is "the most balanced the game has ever been" if you complain about it
>>98219081How does the new edition buff them?
>>98219076Eldar are in decline. Tau are on the rise. Now the game matches the narrative.
>>98219067>Other armies get the 2+ slapped on basic staples.>Tau only get it on shit no one would take anyways.
>>98219087Everything? Literally every change compared to 10th is a buff for Eldar. If anything the point decreases has been too conservative.
>>98219042But picrel is very tacticool>armor>AK-las>gas mask>everyone has communicators, pouches and tarp/coverAll hail Goodwin. All hail Goodwin. All hail Goodwin.
>>98219052I'm genuinely hyped now that the stompa is down to 600p
>>98219030Would you rather be like the sisters and pay out the ass for your only anti-tank option?
>>98219093Ah, you're shitposting, gotcha.
Is there a good paint set of basic needed paints? I barely have any and it's ruining my enjoyment of painting
>>98219074does this mean my catachans can get more than 4 flamers now
PRIMARIS ARE KING!!!
>>98219067I can't fucking read this gibberish. Please translate this to the actual language spoken by humans rather than the degenerate creatures known as "ESL" please.
>>98219083This is false
>>98219060They're basing points for the 20 guardsmen on the assumption they'll be attached to a 5 man cadian command squad. Why they didn't build the cost into the command squad instead I don't know.
>WE'RE ADDING WARGEAR COSTS BACK FOR THINGS THAT ARE OBJECTIVELY MORE POWERFUL>leman russes can still take sponsons, pintle mount and a hunter killer for freeyeah, they fucked it
>>98219076So they're in the Votann cuck chair from 10th's launch?
>>98218999in the end IG fans are mostly about historical armies IN SPACE, so they should lean less heavily into pop culture, and more heavily into their vietnam war/south america freedom fighters aspect.
>>98219114You're always going to take them so why make it more complicated by parting it out? Points are for the obvious unit-wide inconsistencies like terminator hammers vs claws.
>monolith goes up 20pts>subsequent ones got up 40ptswhy???? it was already mid
>>98219114every third Russ costs 10 points more now. ill be forced to take Different Russes now
>>98219091Drukhari are making out like bandits. Everybody else lost the ability to disembark, shoot, embark but the FAQ specifically calls out that Venoms can embark troops that disembarked this turn.
>>98219126but i'm not, because they look dogshitbesides, the costs for those guns is aready baked into the cost, why? why am I forced to take a loadout I don't like?
>>98219122I want Tallarn back. With the new Centaur Technicals and Hippogriffs, its even easier to field a properGLA terrorist force now
>>98219107The eye connected to the gun is a cool idea, I think havocs also do it.Just how similar are the techmarines between this one and the standalone guy?
if you're really mad about the points changes, why not simply kill robin cruddace instead of bitching about his decisions on 4chan? Do something productive
>>98219114It's a band-aid measure pretending to be a return to tradition.
>>98219109Your inability to figure out what the words you can't understand mean via context clues is no ones problem but your ownI don't speak cartel and I can read it just fine
>>98219134>t. bitching on 4chan again
AYAYA CARAMBA
>>98219137It's not that I can't read it, it's that I refuse to. Literally every language that isn't English is fundamentally brown.
>>98219104Pro Acryl Base Set from Monument Hobbies. Can probably mix any color you want from that if you have a decent pallette.
>>98219133>The eye connected to the gun is a cool idea, I think havocs also do it.Why would they even need to?Surely the armour interfaces with the turret directly?It's that half the point of the black carapace, the other being the armour inerfaces
>>98219128>Oh now I have to take a slightly different option from six different options!Meanwhile I'm paying 30 points extra because GW won't give my dwarfs a Rhino.
>go to export roster>app crashesHEAPS BASED
>>98219142Bro, you think moon runes are brown?
>>98219131Because they don't want list-building to devolve into extremely granular bullshit again. 5 or 10 points doesn't usually matter, just relax and enjoy getting rolled by Tau gunlines.
>>98219142>So unsure about his white excellence that he refuses to show the inferior language that you don't need to know it to comprehend itFake racists like you make me sickKeeping it on topic, though, I'm glad that my Nids didn't get more than a slap on the wrist compared to a lot of other armies (get fucked CSM), that preview article was bleak looking
>>98219143>Pro AcrylOverpriced, over-thinned slop
>>98219149He thinks americans are brown.
>>98219145I don't belive people play votann post models
>>98219149Germans are swarthoidsNorwegians are swarthoidsMediterraneans are swarthoidsThe French are swarthoids Spaniards are swarthoidsSlavs are swarthoidsTurks are swarthoidsThe Swiss are swarthoidsEurope has been occupied by swarthoids for hundreds of years
>>98218934Just forget they exist, AnonThey'll never be dwarfyThey'll never have a full rangeAt best you can hope that 12th shakes up the ally rules and you can soup with them
>>98219156We increasingly are, unfortunatelyAt least I'm not a Canadian
>>98219132Instead of Hippogriffs, use the Palanite Tauros Venator from Necromunda.
>>98219161>Benjamin Franklin has entered the thread
>>98219095Bolt rifles need to die in a fucking fire.
Scourges got hit with Wargear costs on haywire and darklances, and also a tax for triples
>>98219100Actually yes I would prefer that and not lose my tacticals and devastator squads.
>>98219151except it does matter, because one again there is no downside to taking the objectively best thingspaying points weighs up that cost
>>98219145>sixexcuse me its SEVEN without the Conqueror
>>98219114They were very clear that the point costs are going to be +10 points for a lascannon instead of +5 for every pintle mounted stubber
>>98219144>why?Because it looks cool, metal and both techy and archaic
>>98219155Well, if you want a "set", your options are Army Painter, Pro-Acryl, or Vallejo. I've not used the new Vallejo Game line and had issues with the old line. A lot of people like Warpaints Fanatic but to me the colors are too pale and easy to accidentally rub off.
What craftworld could I paint with the John Blanche Masterclass Collection?
>>98219173Except they also got a 20-point reduction in their unit cost. So dark Lance and haywire units cost exactly the same as they did before, and heat lances are actually cheap now. Deep striking into plunging fire within melta range looks spooky
>10 tempestus scions is now 145 pointsLolLmao
>>98219203
wish we had some cyborgs that don't look so fucking goofy or evocative of necron designs
>>9821921730k mechanicum are right there
>Melta anything in sisters cost more because lol fuck youNice one james
>>98219222no one plays this shit in my region and i hate marines already so having to encounter mostly space marines is aunerysm-inducing
>>98219217>>98219222What they did to tech thralls is a crime
>>98219235What'd they do exactly
played a game of 3rd last nightwish I had my necrons fully painted, I unfortunately ran out of timetons of fun, infinitely better than 10th
>>98219236The new models are more like techno zombies
>>98219237Sovl
>>98219237>infinitely better than 10thNo? Not at all? 10th is a balanced competitive experience made for gamers experienced with the likes of magic: the gathering and yugioh, 3rd ed is just a bunch of roleplaying faggotry.
>>98219236This >>98219242New ones look goofy and shambling, rather than men made into cold machines.Plus the boots & kneepads look ass, ngl, among other things.
>>98219242They know admech/mechanicums player base is mostly made up of Twink/twink chasers so they just updated them to accommodate
>>98219244I nuked 2 dreadnoughts and a razorback with gauss in that gamelost though, due to phase out
>>98219246>10th is a balancedStopped reading
>>98219242Yeah, I don't like the posing on these either.
>>98219254how does it feel to play a narrative sovlful wargame instead of what is basically a tcg played with miniatures
Eldar are so fucked. Thanks James. What utter dogshit changes. Cant wait to just spam clowns and bikes
>>98219262>Eldar are so fucked. Thanks JamesThis but unironically
>>98219246You need to use /s on the internet. People can't read sarcasm.
>>98219266doakes.jpg
>>98219262Craftworlds and Clowns are probably still dead, but Dark Eldar are going to be a problem now for sure. Good thing there aren't many that actually play them.Tau are going to be the real terrors of the index months.
>>98216550>gscme
>>98219277Never seen anyone play them, I always assumed Goliaths were a large footprint vehicle like Battlewagons or Land Raiders.
What did gsc do to get the shoe so hard with point increases across all infantry. I didn’t play 10th since like December.>>98216550I got them as the left claw for my nids initially.
>>98218837>you can expect to see points go down on units with stealth>mandrakes and rangers both go up 5>shroud runners go up 15fuck James, all my friend’s marine lists are going down and elves keep going up
I like dark eldar but I also really like the avatar of khaine and wraith constructs. What the fuck do I do
>>98219254>not an L shaped ruin in siteIs this Heaven?
>>98219283The 3 dudes that regular tourneys with them are too good at playing them so GW got the idea they are too strong
>>98219291Ynnari and just use the Avatar of Khaine as your Yncarne?
>>98219280Rockgrinders are with the blades infront of them. But yeah the truck itself is small even though they can carry 12 models.
>>98219301we rolled agri-world on the terrain generation chart
>>98219283Not to mention how the army rule no longer works for units with characters due to the changes to the leader-bodyguard system now. Cult Ambush requires every model in the unit to have it for it to work so if you add a character, and GSC is a character heavy faction, you can't use it.
>scions randomly get a 15 pt increase with an increase on the third model>kasrkin, which get spammed are 5pts more and still 40pts lessThanks guys I’m sure the new detachment made them so broken
>>98219302Wow, guess I’ll just lean on brood brothers again- demolishers got a price drop I note. >>98219323I read about that, but presume that’s an oversight-wouldn’t be the 10th time- considering the nonsense with last edition.It’s one of those things where you just play it as intended and if somone wants to be a slime ball and quote that as actual rules , you pick up your models and play with somone else - because you clearly aren’t going to have a fun time.
>>98219237>>98219254you couldnt pay me to go back and play these unc editions desu (speaking as an unc myself)
>>98219277>>98216659>>98219283what are we running in 11th? dont know if we had too many points changes desu
Did GW say somewhere they were going to do monthly balance updates for the first three months of this edition or did I hallucinate that?
>>98219361Yes, 2 days ago, in the preemptive cope article
>>98219361monday article said that if sometimes is figured out to be broken in practice there will be emergency balance pass in july
Hey Black Templars players? Fuck you in particular, I guess.
>>98219341GW says deepstrike is better now so you gotta pay up
>>98219354Im intending to try a suicide Sanctus or two with the detachment that lets him get dev wounds and +1d - add rerolls to hit and wound against 1 unit with a big character in it and they sound pretty mean.Apart from that- soup forever. So flitting between tank backed brood brothers with a shooty neophite squad + benefictus or final day with lictors and a trygon -along with loads of acolytes/metamorphs/hybrids Have you got any ideas yet anon?
STOMPA AT 600 POINTS THIS IS NOT A DRILLAlso Orks points are down all over the place. Most lists gaining hundreds of extra points.
shit won't stop me from painting
>>98219395>blackoidcrinfe
>>98219395N
>>98219395I'm surprised GW hasn't given more primaris marine the cables connecting to the fake pecs, it makes them a little less bad
>dual gatling despo is 430 for first one>2nd one for 450-aack
Sonia the defiler menace dead? Or will we still see them just spammed less?
>>98219401>>98219404post your mini ,cuck, or stay silent
>>98218520>>9821850740k models need to be space marines. "Vraksian Traitor Guard lead by Traitor Lord Solar on Rothorse" doesn't exist because Traitor Guard is not an army.
>>98218641Imperial Fists, easy
>>98219430What a faggot. You don't belong here.
>>98218931Anon, you get 9" between the two outermost models, and it's not wholly within either, so you get 9" + 64mm (their bases) + 12" anti-deepstrike, they're going to cover your whole backfield regardless if you want them to.
>>98219395>>98219430Edge, everyone can tell it's you.
>>98219395its always sad seeing someone with genuine talent choose a god awful colour scheme. also african marines are cringe and you should feel bad for painting one
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>>98218698Both are being teased but DM has a lot more teased in Horus Heresy, where Mars is explicitly on the side of traitors and would also make that game less of a marinefest.Traitor Guard has a lot of forge world oop stuff plus two kits and you can easily expand on that to have traitor hierarchs and generals and units of traitor ogryns and mutants that aren't beastmen+tanks with spikes on them because why the fuck does that hurt your feelings so much when GSC was just guardsmen but bald before they got their legions of miners with four arms.
>>98219430the state of you
>>98219307I guess it kind of makes sense why the base Goliath is usable in Necromunda Ash Wastes campaign.I just wish they'd make gang-specific driver/gunner kits to customize it.
>>98219388Stompa is the ideal unit for point steppers because 1 is cool and more than 1 is retarded.
>>98217118Beast snagga boys are ass
>>98218987We need more ork transport tbf
>>98217124I have the one in the middle.
