Date Complications Edition>Previous>>98201258>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>5e Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>VtM to VtR fan translation guidehttps://mega.nz/folder/LhYTUD7b#cRDFTcMXSB_2TjD7eJoE5Q>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionYou thought it was too good to be true and you were right. That cute girl you took to dinner was actually a vampire looking for her next meal! How do you handle this surprising turn of events? (If you are also a vampire, she hasnt realized it yet)
New Wyrmslop dropped, marketing departament is getting a big bonus for this one.
>>98219210>How do you handle this surprising turn of events?Oh, well, it can't be helped. I just hope she's not a Gio. Not sure if I want to survive the Kiss or not.
>>98219210>How do you handle this surprising turn of events?
Speaking of the Digital Web and Mage the Ascension, what would I need to play this character concept: The Ghost in the MachineI watched SAO (Abridged) today and I wanted to make a character like Yui, an adorable little AI girl that can hack stuff. Though I wanted to add my own twist to make it more like my character. So I decided to take inspiration from Gintama. Specifically the Ryugujo Arc. In this story the character named Urashima has been invited to a castle in space and partied for months, but when he returned on Earth he found out that the time dilation meant that hundred of years has passed back in his hometown. Having lost everything he committed suicide, but his body was recovered by the princess from the castle. His life has been “saved”, trapped in suspended animation and ageless, but there was no brain activity. We learn later in the anime that as the princess was descending into villainy due to grief, Urashima’s soul became one with the castle/ship’s computers and fought against Princess Otohime to save her.So yeah, the idea is that a girl is in suspended animation. Less than alive but more than dead, and her soul escape her body and whatever machine imprisoned her and now resides in the Digital Web. She’s like an AI trapped in the web and can only interact with the world and people through electronic machines. So what would I need to know and have to play that character? What merits do you suggest? What strategies to employ? Etc.
I'm feeling pulled in two directions lads and I could use some advice. My HtV campaign fell apart because of scheduling, timezones and all that good shit. It was the Slasher game, I've been posting for about a year or so covering it. I want to do a followup game, same setting but a year or two down the line with a different splat. My two options are;>Requiem I've run it before, I know it well and I like it a lot. It's 1981 in London, England. For some reason, Embraces have been failing across the city. Childe are rising as Revenants and Draugr, or the Blood is not taking and they remain a corpse. The Ordo Dracul is investigating while the Lancea Sanctum believe that the biblical end of times is upon them, and God no longer has need of his Sanctified. The PCs would be either from out-of-town and caught up in the mystery, or they would be fresh embraces that have mysteriously succeeded, drawing the attention of every Kindred in the city. What is actually causing the problem, I'm not sure yet. Strix are a safe bet.My other option is >Forsaken I've never run or played a Werewolf game, but Forsaken appeals to me a lot. The Players would be attending a conclave of sorts of the various tribes, gathering to retake to south-east of England from the Pure. The PCs pick and choose their targets as part of a wider war-effort, hunting all sorts of monsters and horrors as well as the Pure, they may even cross into London and tangle with the Kindred there. Maybe an Idigam is behind it, maybe they're responsible for what's happening in London too. They'll also have the option of encountering the Hunter PCs from the HtV campaign. Which sounds more interesting? I like the idea of both, though I'm mainly concerned about the Forsaken option as I don't know if that's the right format for a game?
>>98219446Requiem's got my vote.
>>98219446Requiem sounds cooler.It's hard to make dogs interesting.
Which clan do you think Thanasis Vagias, who used to be Ali Pasha's counselor and later a governor of the newly founded state of Greece, and was later falsely portrayed as a traitor to his nation who rose as a vampire after his death, would be?
>>98219389According to the lore and the general expectation of how the game should be played, a character like that is impossible and unplayable. After being trapped in the Digital Web and denied the opportunity to return to reality in a physical way, she'd suffer from disembodiment and become a spirit of that realm, no longer a mage. Your only real option to ask your ST if you can play a familiar instead of a mage and build a spirit with lots of tech-focused charms, using the rules in Gods & Monsters if you're playing M20.
>>98219515Lasombra.
>>98219446You would be running Forsaken like it is Apocalypse, so you would have to come up with the meat and sinew of the game on your own.Having run Forsaken, I very much enjoy it; it has consistently offered and led to the best group dynamics of any game I have run.Your Requiem game has stronger themes, and easier to draw players in to.
>>98219499I feel like Forsaken, with an Idigam and Spirits in general, has a higher ceiling for drama and power, which to me says I ought to leave it for last. The preceeding campaigns everyone dicks about, makes a mess in the Hisil and the consequences are felt by the Uratha who have to wrangle it all back into shape. Kindred have no real innate ability to deal with anything ephemeral, and are largely ignorant it event exists at all by default so I like that angle a lot. The Uratha pull back the curtain on everything that's happened so far and surprise, it's all gone to shit. I've already established a large murder spirit existing just outside London, pic related. Murderous Intent, a rank 4 Spirit. I feel like an Idigam would be a worthwhile unifying bad guy across both campaigns. The Pure (fire-touched tribe, I think?) follow it for its power to merge flesh and spirit. Kindred have no such involvement, but maybe some Spirit-ridden in the thrall of the Idigam is wreaking havoc in London, somehow responsible for the epidemic assailing the vampires there. I'd need to give that part some thought, but there's definitely room for some overlap therein. >>98219589Tell me more about how the game is like Apocalypse. I can't find good examples of actual play online for Forsaken, and the book is pretty vague outside of "gotta hunt, gotta get it on". I figured a strong drive of "organised guerrilla war" would help provide additional context for said hunt.
What books for deviant are there? I was poking around and saw there was apparently a third variable for them called form, which seemed cool but I didn't see anything about these forms in the core book or devoted companion
>>98219589>>98219612Hit post a bit early. I don't think the wider war/conclave angle is 100% necessary. It could just be that the PCs territory is invaded by the Pure and they have to maintain it. Conceptually it's the same thing, to my understanding?
>>98190402>Demon is about being the secret underpinning of the world. Even without mortal institutions to corrupt, there are so many ways to cause destruction and disorder. Chaos reigns!>Can you expand on what you mean by this?In this Fan Reboot of the World of Darkness, instead of vampires or magi being privileged in terms of setting and metaphysics, demons take priority. In ancient cultures, demons cause (or are associated with) natural disasters, usually storms or plagues.>Tbh if we're folding Mummy under Wraith, it's probably a good sign that Wraith would be capable of telling Mummy-like stories.This might work, since both ghost stories and mummy stories tend to involve tragedy and reclamation of personal effects.>>98190458>Why the hell do people think doing a fan continuation, only to change everything, won't result in exactly the lump of shit everyone hated wod5 for?As for myself, I'm not interested in rehashing the Old World of Darkness. I came into the fandom via the Chronicles of Darkness (called the "New World of Darkness" at the time). I like its modularity and consistency, but I also enjoy the style of Old World of Darkness.I decided to start with Demon, since both the Old World of Darkness and the Chronicles of Darkness implied that it was important to the overall setting but they introduced it too late to matter. I wanted to rectify this error by putting it front and center.
>>98219879>>98190467>How do you think the Masquerade would be maintained for demons here?If ancient myths are to be believed, agents of civilization and order tend to subdue Chaos and its offspring. Though, of course, to state that it was ever totally defeated is pure propaganda. In addition to heroes, hunters, holy men, and others who seek to slay or subjugate demons, a demon's power level can handicap it. If a demon is too weak, it is barely noticable in the material world. If it is too powerful, it must dwell in Hell. Some say this is an imposition of the forces of order but others counter that it is merely "like seeking like".
>>98219219Perhaps I am a newfag but why is a boat so high up there?
>>98219531Oh… but can I bypass disembodiment if I take the Immunity merit? The texts seem to mention that it could prevent you from dying to a natural cause, like starvation, asphyxiation, temperature or diseases and poisons. If becoming disembodied is a natural process, then could this merit overcome this challenge?
>>98219958Disembodiment isn't dying, it's being transformed into a spirit.
>>98219947Read more Lovecraft.
>>98219977That boat meme is perpetrated by people that never read his books
>>98219994That's why I told him to read the books, so he can separate memes from truth.
>>98219947a 1920s steamer can destroy Cthulhu therefore by Magefag logic the Boat is a multiverse-level threatit is what it is
>>98219968Isn’t that the same? Most people turn into spirits when they die. Like wraiths and garou turning into ancestor spirits. You could argue that vamps, kuei-jins and other undeads are just spirits anchored to their moving physical vessels.
>>98213227>So is the Government hiding the existence of “aliens” a contingency plan the Syndicate is saving for an emergency, behind the NWO’s back I might add, or is the actual sleeper government, acting entirely independent of Technocratic supervision due to the Union’s own internal tensions, itself having made contact with demons (umbra spirits) posing as aliens?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvjgIxuVdo4
>>98219210vampire rape
>>98219389Sounds fine.Honestly, I would suggest winging it youself while talking to your ST. Anything we can suggest would be secondary to what your ST would like to do.>>98219531I mean, just ignore it? Disembodiment and all that BS is just Revised trying to keep Mages away from Umbra. Just say it doesn't exists. Just like how M20 suggests, if the Avatar Storm didn't happen, ignore Disembodiment.
>>98219210>TQI do what any other true warrior of God would do, I set off my blessed suicide vest and blow the place up, God will understand.
>>98219615https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Deviant:_The_Renegades_books
>>98219389 >>98219531 >>98220283Wouldn't it work if you somehow "hack" the EEG equipment, finagling it into a ghetto brain-computer interface?After that you proceed to hack and splice your way into the Web, bouncing off cellphones, hijacking "smart" devices, and so on.Then you would retain the soul-body connection, seemingly projecting from the body, rather than moving fully into the Web.Admittedly, this comes with it's own set of requirements and limitations.Not to mention needing to subscribe to the tech-centric paradigm to pull this off.
>>98220351Like I said, I consider Disembodiment stuff stupid and mostly to limit normal players. Especially because Marauders and Nephandi are immune to it.
>>98220351I’d be interested if you can elaborate on that, or post a pic describing the process/rules
>>98220351>>98220283>>98220045>>98220369Even if the mage does still exist as a mage, doing magic that influences reality from the Digital Web is going to be stupidly difficult unless your ST handwaves it. Talking with your ST about this idea is going to be way more productive than asking us about it.
>>98219446>My HtV campaign fell apart because of scheduling, timezones and all that good shit.Tragic. >I want to do a followup gameDo you have new players/more ironclad schedule? You might be setting yourself up for another disappointment. >>98219589>You would be running Forsaken like it is Apocalypse, so you would have to come up with the meat and sinew of the game on your own.Strongly disagree, there's War Against the Pure for material on this kind of stuff. Forsaken doesn't HAVE to be super local and always defensive.
>>98220767>Forsaken doesn't HAVE to be super local and always defensive.It is just the easier way to run the game as an ST. You could have a conquest but it requires some more preparation.
Can someone either give examples or explain how Sorcery works, in regards to Path dots, successes, aspects, and such? I'm not sure if I'm misreading the information in Sorcerer Revised or what, but I'm reading about stuff like pushing above your normal level of power by getting twice your required successes without even being sure how to tell the required successes. I think I might be mixing up the difficulty, the dots and the successes...Do you essentially get your dots in the Path as extra successes if you succeed? What do you have to assign before casting and what do you decide once you see the extra successes you get?
>>98221046Before casting you first have to select the aspect levels you want.Successes needed are based on selected aspect levels. [Highest aspect] + 4.The first level of every aspect is earned on your first success. Beyond that you need one success per aspect level.Path dots don't give extra successes.If you score double the needed successes you can beg your ST to improve one aspect by one level. This is rarely relevant and your ST might just say no.The aspect rules are horribly written.
>>98221184>Successes needed are based on selected aspect levels. [Highest aspect] + 4.I mistyped. That's formula is for difficulty, not successes needed.
>>98221184>Path dots don't give extra successes.So if you are a master of a path and have it at 5 dots, and are trying to cast a typical Path 5 spell (not even a ritual), you'd need to not only beat the Difficulty 9 roll but ALSO get four extra successes on it? Is that right?That felt like a possible interpretation, but it also seemed to go against how the default effects are described (and it also feels counterintuitive in other ways)
>>98221256>So if you are a master of a path and have it at 5 dots, and are trying to cast a typical Path 5 spell (not even a ritual), you'd need to not only beat the Difficulty 9 roll but ALSO get four extra successes on it? Is that right?That's right. Assuming it's only one aspect/other aspects are level 1.
Anybody have the Mage the ascension -> Mage the awakening conversion?I remember some old google docs with the old traditions reworked into the new system.I like the flavor of the traditions but I don't wanna fall on the consensual epistemology blackhole. Just wanna do cool mage pew pewing spells with reality backlashing at them.
>>98220767I live in hope and that's about all I can go on right now. I'm skimming War Against the Pure and it mentions the Brethren War, a guerrilla war in the 90s that the Pure waged against the Uratha. This campaign could well serve as the inciting incident for that, providing Pure packs with the motivation and casus beli to form up and strike back en masse. My main thing to ponder right now is, does it need to be a big war? Would the game work better as "All the Uratha in East Anglia are getting murdered and you're the last pack standing"? Or would skipping a bit ahead in that timeline to "All the Uratha in East Anglia are dead and you're going to reclaim it" work better? My general roadplan for a campaign in this general format is to provide a big sandbox and see what threads the players pull on. In the past I've made big maps of towns and marked areas for different factions/NPCs etc, which would definitely lend itself well to a larger war campaign, so I am erring more to that side. Pic rel is the HtV map.
Arcane background isn't just extra points in Stealth, right?
>>98221626forgot to say it was mtsc, sorry
>>98221626Heard that at 6+ you subtract successes instead of dice, though unfortunately you can’t turn it off. Ever. And at 10 you just cease to exist because reality itself can’t factor in your existence.
>>98221626>>98221729...Mage the Sorcerer's Crusade?If so, Ascension then.Arcane adds to your Stealth pools plus removes dice from everyone's Perception and Investigation pool against you.Arcane 8-9-10 also subtracts Success from anything that somehow managed to get success against that.Even if it is unlikely you will get more than 5, Arcane 5+ also has narrative effects (like Arcane10 basically making you immune to all sensory supernatural powers)Anything more than Arcane 10 makes you go puff as the universe forgets you exists and thus you become non-existent.
>>98221849>>98221885>just rank 6 has family and close friends forget you entirely after a weekbrutaluh I think I'll skimp on any ranks in that that's a little extreme lmaothanks
So is there really no better resource for running the original Chicago Chronicles than the 1-3 compilation books? The V20 Dust to Dust really is just a "new adventure for everyone left over after the fact"? I'll do it if I have to but my zoomer attention span craves a better formatted version with less filler NPCs than these unc-aah books.
>>98222103>So is there really no better resource for running the original Chicago Chronicles than the 1-3 compilation books?no, suffer.
>>98221521Man, it sucks that someone who puts in as much effort as you do is struggling to hold down a table. I wish you the best, Anon. As for the conceit of this hypothetical Forsaken game, I'd say "All the Uratha in East Anglia are getting murdered and you're the last pack standing" is the better option. Because it gives the PCs more opportunities. Every Uratha, Wolf-Blooded or even normie ally they can save during the initial collapse is someone in their pocket when it comes to taking it back. Starting during the fall will make the stakes feel more real to them and give them much more skin in the game.
>>98221885This skill just sounds like a trap option at higher levels unless you really, really want to be able to fuck over another group unopposed.
>>98222403>>98222403>Just learn the complex backstory of 70+NPCs and the relationships between them from CbN along with however many are introduced in Ashes to Ashes, Blood Bond, Blood Red Moon, CbN2e, Succubus Club, and Milwaukee by Night broAnd you people wonder why they tried to sell V5
>>98221919>>98222627It's the Grey Cowl of Nocturnal, except you can't ever take it off. It does seem... let's just say "niche as fuck." Obviously you aren't getting to rank 10 in a normal game, but seriously why is it "oh even you forget you exist"?It's not even useful as a villain trait because nothing they do is functionally different from the ST just fucking them over arbitrarily.
>>98222639If you're the kind of cattle that is incapable of creating custom lore for your city/game/table and absolutely NEED the "canon" lore, you deserve it.Same with metaslop enjoyers.
>>98222639V5 didn't really improve the situation, just made the fact that you don't need to use everything ever written down more explicit. Just skim through it and note down what you are using or look up what STV has because odds are theres a book for that.>>98222667Hey having modules is important because a lot of people can't write down something half as memorable as canon despite their best efforts.
>>98221184>>98221444Do dots in a path even do anything to make spells easier then?If they don't allow a higher starting "power" or the spell, or give you aspect dots, and they don't seem to add them to the Intelligence + Occult roll...Is there any difference at all between doing a Path roll for a simple effect when you only have 1 dot in the Path and when you have the full 5?
>>98222716>Do dots in a path even do anything to make spells easier then?Not really, they "only" raise the cealing of what you can do like Discipline dots.
>>98222756Thank you...I'm guessing extender rolls for literally everything is the way to play a sorcerer, then?Because things will very quickly get to the point where Attribute 5 + Ability 5 is just not enough.I thought Paths were supposed to be the fast ones in comparison to rituals, but maybe not. And I have no clue how much of a point there is to Fast Castting, then...
>>98222792>I thought Paths were supposed to be the fast ones in comparison to rituals, but maybe not. And I have no clue how much of a point there is to Fast Castting, then...Rituals are mainly a way to do something above your normal cap and fast casting is a way to do shit in action scene, like a diviner tossing a coin to see what side would lead to safety during a longer chase or the Conjurer needing to throw the kichen sink at a guy RIGHT NOW.
>>98222792>Because things will very quickly get to the point where Attribute 5 + Ability 5 is just not enough.That's when you start buying Talismans & Devices to raise your effective rating. Like a diviner's mirror or a smith's hammer and anvil.
>>98219879I've decided to consolidate Prometheans and Deviants under the category of "(mad) science experiments". The scientists / alchemists / ritualists will likely be a branch of the Mortal line, along with hunters. Should the latter be an antagonist-only faction or should they be playable?
>>98219879>>Tbh if we're folding Mummy under Wraith, it's probably a good sign that Wraith would be capable of telling Mummy-like stories.I thought that we wanted corporeal undead (vampires, mummies, zombies?), incorporeal undead (ghosts), incorporeal spirits (demons, possibly angels, possibly fae), and mortals which bargain for power.
>>98222710Having official lore for particulars (adventures, citybooks) is fine, I occasionally use official stuff myself. Even if I'm not married to it, it can be a good starting point, and certain characters and plotlines are worth keeping around. But needing to read every single Chicago book instead of just using the By Night as a jumping off point is pathetic.
>>98222983Weren't the Chicago Chronicles a whole other campain like Curse of Strad or something along those lines?
Garou, or Uratha?
>>98223161Uratha for the easier MPreg.
>WtAmore like Werewolf: the Aroused lmao
>>98223175Okay, forcefem or ABO?
>>98223301Forcefem, ABO is such a shitpost I don't think I can enjoy anything that takes it seriously.On a tangential question, which one would make for the better game?
>>98223342Forcefem for adversarial relationship that serves as the foundation for the game's conflict, ABO for complex social structures that players will have to learn how to navigate.
>>98223342>Omega: the Triangle>a Storytelling game of uneasy hierarchies
I'm working on a hack of Mage: The Awakening that shifts the focus away from fighting the Lie and becoming increasingly godlike. Instead, the game is built around cosmic horror, occult investigation, and the pursuit of forbidden knowledge. The core inspiration comes as much from Call of Cthulhu and Lovecraft's Dreamlands as it does from Mage.In this setting, mages do not awaken to Watchtowers. Instead, they reach a mysterious place known as the Tower, usually through dreams, near-death experiences, mystical visions, or occult exploration. The Tower lies beyond the Dreamlands and serves as a crossroads connecting countless realities, worlds, and pathways. At its heart stand the Pillars, immense structures inscribed with ancient Scripts that represent fundamental ways humans understand reality.These Scripts—such as Nhex (Death), Veyr (Life), Orath (Names), and Voth (Becoming)—function as magical languages. A mage's power comes from learning to read and speak them. What awakening calls arcana are reimagined as levels of literacy in these Scripts. Spells are not reality-warping acts of will but carefully constructed statements written in languages older than human civilization.Most mages believe the Pillars lead toward the Supernal Realms, perfected domains that embody the principles represented by each Script. However, experienced mages eventually discover evidence that the Supernal may not be the final truth. The Tower contains forgotten roads, hidden Gates, and strange regions that seem unrelated to humanity altogether. Records left behind by vanished archmages suggest that other species may have encountered different Pillars, different Scripts, and entirely different paths through the Tower.
>>98223422This leads to one of the central mysteries of the setting: the possibility that the pillars and the supernal are not universal truths, but specifically human interpretations of deeper realities.Beyond the supernal lies what many call the Horizon, where the limits of human understanding begin to appear. Beyond the Horizon are the mythos, the outer scripts, and truths that cannot be fully translated into human concepts. Languages such as aklo allow mages to bypass parts of the supernal framework and interact with reality more directly, but doing so often accelerates their psychological and spiritual transformation.As a result, the game is less about gaining power and more about uncovering mysteries. magic is dangerous not because reality rejects it, but because every revelation changes the person who discovers it. The further a mage climbs, the more they realize that reality is larger, older, and stranger than humanity ever imagined.The cosmology works something like thisHumanity->Dreamlands->The Tower->The Pillars->The Supernal Realms->The Horizon->The Mythos->The Cosmos->The Great Old Ones->The Outer Gods->Azathoth
>>98223422>>98223425I'm just refining it and liking where it is going.Any idea is more than welcome.
>>98223433>>98223425>>98223422In this setting you have "The seers of the tower" which is a cabal of hermetic mages that want to stop other mages from exploring "higher" into the tower. Their reason is to preserve humanity cause ascending the tower, going beyond the supernal realms means becoming something profoundly alien. Becoming an archmage means trascending humanity in a literal sense.The "dark pilgrim" is an entity that have been walking the tower for millennia and has steered the seers of the tower in that direction.In this setting the nephandi are basically mages that ignored the pillars and the supernal realms altogether, their got lost in the tower and walked a different path learning aliens magics directly.The game relies heavily in rote magic and not so much spontaneous magic. Spontaneous magic should be something that is rare and extremely volatile and dangerous.The rotes are divided in "safe rotes", "deep rotes", "horizon rotes" and "mythos rotes", every each going deeper and deeper transcending the supernal magicks.The rotes will have requirements in different scripts, for example a verbena rote could have a requirement in Veyr (life), aklo and gnosis. The higher the requirements the more dangerous (and the higher the sanity cost) for the spell.Gnosis will determine how far gone a person is.Gnosis 1 -> AwakeningGnosis 2 -> The supernalGnosis 3 -> The horizonGnosis 4 -> Cracks in the supernalGnosis 5 -> The mythosGnosis 6+ -> Beyond the pillars
>>98222667I do usually, but seeing as everyone always touts the "classic" stories as good it makes it more so frustrating to sit through 30 forgettable filler NPCs to find the Helenas and Mithrases that are actually moving the plot along.>>98222710Yes I suppose skimming really is the only way rather than expect a compilation of the actually important and memorable characters. Thanks.
>>98223260If only Garou enjoyed being petted without knocking them out with the horse tranq first.
>>98223260wtf catgirl horizon realm gooner dimensions are canon?
>>98223978They are super canon! the mage books even mention that bastet can bring you to their "private realms"
>>98224082Dare I enter the catboy's magical realm?
>>98224094roll willpower
>>98224094Spend 1 femboy point and roll Horny.
>>98223978>reality deviants have access to entire horizon realms of catgirls>meanwhile Progenitors still take aggravated damage from Rejection just from adding a fluffy erogenous cat tail to a subject>they still haven't managed to shift the Consensus to allow the Masses access to catgirlsthe scientific paradigm has fallenbillions must adopt precepts of Damian
>>98224117>billions must adopt precepts of DamianBring back the 5th
Holy shit, guys. I just found out about Ranitidine to clean blood stains. You really should try it.
>>98223646Just find a Fianna metis, they’re desperate for any form of positive attention
>>98224117to be entirely fair den realms might be something akin to horizon realms but they are far too small to really count most of them are room to appartment sized and belong to a single bastet and the bastet don't have the numbers to fill a actual horizon realm
>>98224117A few more Notflix adaptations, some rogue Chinese geneticists doing weird science stuff, yanks rescuing the experiments for the sake of FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY, some forced memes, and it'll start to wear down the established consensus on catgirls methinks.
>>98224117Bro, your research plantations in the deep universe?
does Requiem second edtion contain the system, or do you need a second book to have the system like in first edition?
>>98224382Void Engineers don't let the Progenitors do that anymore because they're haters who despise anthropomorphic animal girls(catgirls included)
>>98224576most rules you need are in the corebook and you could probably play just with it but some stuff like universal merits are in the blue bookand if a vtr book wants you to look at a rule in another book they are atleast nice enough to also give you the page number
>>98221885One of my players really wanted a sword Wonder that erased kills from all record or memory, so I gave it a custom Paradox Backlash mechanic that can BAD END him by raising his Arcane beyond 10.
>>98224780The sword doesn't do damage it just raises Arcane.
>>98223342>which one would make for the better game?Comes down to personal preference and what you'd want out of the game. I prefer Forsaken.
>>98224780I like your player, he sounds like a Limbus Company fan.It is not unheard of either. A Master of Time can accomplish it by erasing him from the Book of History.
>>98223560>as everyone always touts the "classic" stories as goodSorry people lied to you. I actually like some of the old Chicago stuff, but I don't know who is claiming every single old premade adventure is good.
>>98224197Not a bad idea, but I'm not sure if I want to consort with genetic drunkards.
>>98224588>Void Engineers when they encounter blue alien chicks with boobsYes please>Void Engineers when they encounter weird Roman Raptor speciesSure thing boss>Void Engineers when they encounter anthropomorphic animal peopleTHE IMPERIUM OF MAN IS FOUNDED UPON THE SKULLS AND BLOOD OF THE INHUMAN. FOR THE EMPEROR!
Are you ready for World of Darkness: Brazilian Boogaloo?
>>98224973No offense to the huehues but no, I'm pretty much checked out of "official" material at this point.
>>98224961Tbf that’s a natural reaction when you have coyotes pranking your expeditions by sending them to the worst parts of the deep umbra
NO PARADOX. WHEN WE SAID WE WANTED A NEW EDITION WE DIDN'T MEAN THIS.
>>98224973WoD Brazil had potential but they dropped that child down the metaphorical stairs years ago.The Americans can barely cover Mexico in an interesting way, so good luck finding anything worth while about Brazil outside the STV.On a similar note, apparently Capital by Night was pretty good but the books on São Paulo were ass. For some reason Rio Branco was under the control of the Giovanni but I think that was just a game story.
>>98225220Gotta get that money back somehow KEK
>>98225065Fair enough.
>>98225220
>>98225220imagine if that was the whole thing "yeah we don't like v5 but we don't have enough money for v6 so we are now a dnd brand"
>>98225261Oh, god please don't let WoD die like this. Just sell it back to Onyx Path don't go down this route Paradox.
>>98225220Called it.
>>98225220Ghostfire gaming are the guys who did "i can't believe it's not warhammer fantasy" and "i can't believe it's not mordheim" for dnd 5e before so them making "i can't believe it's not vampire the dark ages" wouldn't be offbrand for themwhat is really surprising is that white wolf gave them the IP because that doesn't seem to be a dark pack product
>>98225220>kindred class>https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/17400this dude is way ahead of you guysalso jokes aside it's not called kindred when it's a crossover with dark ages! the term was only invented centuries laster
>>98225220Vampire elves when?
>>98219515Tell me why you are standing, Thanasis, upright,mute as a relic, in front of your eyes?Why, Thanasis, are you going out at night?Is there no sleep for you in Hades?Now a lot of time has passed...They threw you deep into the earth...I'm gone, have mercy on me. I'm going to sleep.Leave me alone to rest.The crime you committed has taken me away.Do you see how I became? Thanasis, sir.Everyone is leaving me, no one is giving,To your poor widow, alms.Stand further away... Why are you shadowing me?Thanasis, what have I done that you are scaring me?How green are you? You smell like soil...Tell me... haven't you broken up yet, Thanasis?Tighten your shroud a little...Worms are grazing on your face.Damn it, look... they're flying!and they come at me to eat me.Tell me, where are you coming from with such a fuss?Listen, what's going on? It's longing.Why should you come out of your grave?Tell me where you are coming from? What did you come to see?
>>98225390july. can't you read? kindred are a class in this meaning you can take a race on top of that so be ready for all those tiefling lasombra
>>98225394Inside my grave the darknessI was locked up on nights like this,and there where I stood shroudedDeep in my memory, huddled together,Suddenly an owl landed on me.I hear him shouting; Thanasis Vagia,A thousand dead people were wounded.and they will take you there.I heard the words and my name.My bones crack and rub.I hide, I hide as much as I can.Deep in my pit, I don't see them.Come out and show off, Thanasis Vagia,Come on, let's run to the side.Come out, don't be shy, they're not wolves.Show us the way to Gardiki.Here, shouting like madmenThe dead are falling on me.Both with their claws and with their mouthsThey fly, they dig the black soil.And it was as if everyone found me at onceoutside my grave the wilderness,Laughing, whispering, they drag me wildlyand there, as they told me, they took me with them.We fly, we run; it is natural,Our passing spoils the world.The black cloud, whatever it passes by,The rocks tremble, the earth trembles.The wind is blowing our shroudsas if we were sailing with our sails.They fall in our path and come unstuck.The hollow bones are scattered on the ground.The owl was crawling in front of us.always shouting; Thanasis Vagia.Thus we arrived at those places,that I have slaughtered so many with this hand.Oh, what torture! Oh! what terrors!How many harsh curses they threw at me!They gave me some boiled blood and I drank it.Look, I have painted my mouth.And in which they drag me and trample mesomeone shouted... They stand and listen.– We are glad to have found you, Vizier Ali.Here they enter the courtyard.The dead fall on him.They fired me. No one stays.I secretly left them and am running here.With you, my wife, I will sleep.
>>98225400In– Thanasis, I heard you, pull over now.In your memory, there is always time.– Inside my grave for company,I want three kisses from your mouth.– When they threw oil and dirt at youI came, I secretly kissed you on the mouth.– Now a lot of time has passed…Hell took that kiss from me.– I ran away and shaded your wild eyes.Your rotten flesh is falling apart.Pull back, hide them, those hands.From their sharpness, you might say they are knives.– Come on, my wife, it's not me.The one you loved once?Don't hate me, I'm Thanasis.– Get out of my sight, you'll bring me to hell.He throws himself at her and grabs her,She puts her lips into her mouth.On her bare breasts the clothes begin,that cover it, to tear them apart.She undressed... her hand stretched out...She thrusts it wildly into her bosom...It remains as marble. Cold as a snake.He trembles with fear, in the end.He howls like a wolf, he trembles like a leaf...He held the Holy Wood in his fingers.The black one was saved, her amulet,smoke, extinguished from her side.Then the owl was heard toooutside, who was shouting: – Thanasis Vagia!
>>98224588They're only tolerated because they're useful and, unlike the more important conventions, highly expandable. Give it enough time and the masses will be lining up for their lab-grown, anthro girlfriend - now with 15 minute shipping!
>>98225305>what is really surprising is that white wolf gave them the IPIs it?WW and Paradox seem not to care who gets the license anyway their doing the same thing GW did in the early 2010s with Warhammer IPs it's more about the volume of content being produced rather than the quality
>>98225220...I mean, it is probably not the strangest crossover. That would be Street Fighter but I certainly didn't expect anything like this at all.At least we will find out how accurate the image-related Alien was.
>>98225220this is a elaborate plot by the tremere to sneak into yet another game setting!
>>98224961>>Void Engineers when they encounter blue alien chicks with boobs>Yes pleaseif the Technocracy wins you'll see one of these in every homethank goodness the Magi of the Nine Mystic Traditions are fighting tooth and nail to stop this from ever happening.a round of applause for Mages everyone!
>>98225426You think that the next few years are going to be paradoxes slop era for WoD? I guess it makes sense. They have more or less failed to revitalise the IP with their attempt at an edition. Maybe letting anyone who wants a shot get their hands on it will be a positive thing. There are people out there who are filled with passion and talent who could add some great things into WoD.
>>98225451>You think that the next few years are going to be paradoxes slop era for WoD?Not really, odds are the next era is going to be worse as some asshat uses an AI to write the next core book.
>>98225444Based Tremere. Also, checked.
>>98225459The next core book will be a supplement written for DnD 6th edition as DnD transitions fully to online and AI.
>>98225444>4th game with tremere in it>3 times 4THE NUMBERS MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
>>98225478I'm sure there's plenty of people who would want a solo game AI but the smut writers already covers that market.
>>98225220Class?...Possibilities are endless, Goliath Kindred, Shifter Kindred, Flamekin Kindred...Dhampir Kindred!
>>98224810Limbased...
Are clans subclasses?>>98225500Vampire Kindred.
>>98225500planeshift had a vampire racefinally the good old days of dnd 4e are back when you could play a vampire (race), vampire (class) with vampire feats
Don't forget to roll your race, kindredbros.
>>98225538okay rolling. Can someone put up a version for clans too?
>>98222626We can only roll with the punches unfortunately. That's what I was veering towards as well. Spend a few sessions getting some early wins in, introduce some friendly NPCs as part of a wider support network. Murder them all and task the PCs with sweet vengeance. PCs can infiltrate other packs posthumous territory and hunt down wolf-blooded packmembers in hiding to gain any information they may have. I'll need to do some lore reading to help sell it all, I don't know how effective the Pure typically are meant to be at this sort of thing.
>>98225500Ok let's see what could be done with the race concept.>TieflingThere are already 3 different breeds of half demon people but I'm sure being this blatant about could be interesting. Thaumaturgy by raw is such a nothingburger in WOD it's almost funny.>Dragon bornAlready a thing with the Dragon Kings and company, the breath weapon and elemental resistance would be nice even if situational. Like sure having a gun in the back of your throat is nice but if you became a vampire I'm sure you would end up killing yourself.>DwarvesDo we have a canin midget vampire? Honest question.>Elf Meh>GnomeFINALLY WE CAN CRAFT VAMPIRE MAGIC ITEMS. It only took embracing the most annoying and forgotten race in all of TSR's line up.>Half OrcWould they just get to negate shit like torpor?
>>98225538You know what. Here, last digits of your post determines.1-Human Kindred (Boring)2-Elf Kindred 3-Dwarf Kindred4=Lupine Kindred5=Flamekin Kindred6=Dhampir Kindred7=Changeling Kindred8=Fairy Kindred9=Tiefling Kindred0=Warforged KindredDouble= Drangonborn KindredTriple= Your choice
>>98225538Rollin
Rolled 16 (1d100)>>98225573
>>98225568>Fairy Kindred
FOR THE GLORY OF SET!
>>98225573>>98225582>>98225538>16>Dragonborn (black)Somehow I didn't get of the the DBs who would melt their own face using their powers. Memes aside, has anyone used custom races in Monte Cook's WOD? This is straight up something they would have covered in time.
>>98225591As yes, using The Tongue of the Asp on your clit, a classic.Memes aside thanks for the art, I will jack off to it immediately.
>>98225538Gimme them human warrior numbers
>>98223646You just have to use the right incentives>>98224823>who is claiming every single old premade adventure is good.Nobody in particular, just the recommendations I see posted mostly here and on lore channels. As far as I understand the outstanding/interesting modules are:>Chicago Chronicles >Giovanni Chronicles>Transylvania Chronicles>Alien Hunger>Diablerie Mexico/Mexico City by Night>Montreal by Night>ToJ not really as good but simply because of how balls to the walls crazy it isAnd whichever By Night book (You)r city is set in.
>>98225688>You just have to use the right incentivesYou can but Theis takes an unreasonable amount of effort.
>>98225591HE ACTUALLY DID IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!Gigabased anon freeing himself from the chains of Ra and his false archons in the form of vice and temptation by indulging and transcending them. Almighty Sutekh shall reward you upon His Return. Heck, one of the Lector Priests of the courts in Cairo might reward you with some new Akhu rituals for this.
>>98225538Rolling but what the hell is this for? I'm torn between variant humans as a munchkin and being as racist a caricature of another race as possible for maximum RP.
>>98225220>It's DnD but Dark Ages WoDThis is actually kind of a decent idea though ain't it? How the fuck is Hasbro okay with it though?
>>98225799Just a shit post about how different supernatural races would be like as vampires.
>>98225065Aye, I would spaz out as well if a bunch of F*ra were pranking my high stakes mission.>>98225446I'm pleased everyone understood the Asari
>>98225805>Yuan-Ti Pureblood KindredThis is a Setite with extra layers and more larp, I think I lost bros.
>>98225799Total Snek Supremacy!>>98225538Rollin'.
>>98225827be a troll and take the gangrel sub class and use snake themed protean instead
>>982258045.5 is a shitty rule set though
>>98225926So is V5 and PF2 and 5E DnD but what can you do? Either convert it to a better edition (legwork) or run it as is and hope the social atmosphere is enough for you to forgive the slight against your intelligence that is the newer editions.Other than that, I think DnD is generally interesting enough and more serviceable to tell light hearted stories or incorporate a lot more combat and character fantasy than WoD so it's not a terrible idea. Yeah, the ruleset sucks and unfortunately it'll detract from the setting to have as much focus on combat as DnD has anyway, but if it's a decent enough intro to WoD or Dark Ages for DnD players it can be good enough as just that. The real strength of WoD is more in the setting than the system I think, even if they work pretty well together.
Rolled 16 (1d99)>>98225538>>98225561Last 2 post numbers your raceRoll 1d99 your clan1–8 Brujah9–16 Gangrel17–24 Malkavian25–32 Nosferatu33–40Toreador41–48 Ventrue49–54 Tremere55–60 Lasombra61–66 Tzimisce67–70 Assamite71–73 Followers of Set74–75 Giovanni76–78 Ravnos79 Salubri80 Caitiff81Thin-Blood82 Kiasyd83 Gargoyle84 Nagaraja85 Baali86 Daughters of Cacophony87 Harbingers of Skulls88 Samedi89 Lamia90 Cappadocian 91 Old Clan Tzimisce92 True Brujah93 Ahrimanes94 Mariner Gangrel95 Anda96 Blood Brothers97 Tlacique98 Lhiannan99 Your Choice as a Methuselah
>>98225538>>98226059Give me something good, just no Brujah or Baali
Rolled 78 (1d99)>>98225611>>98226059Lets see who made Sobeck jr.
>>98225220dnd also just added the lupin race so now you can play as sam haight if you multiclass into a caster
>>98226110Bugbear Gangrel makes so much sense
>>98226119>78 RavnosBruhhh... This is bullshit.
>>98226143so indian something something kalli something something vitra stuff
>>98219515HEY.HE'S MY ANCESTORVery few are familiar with him, nice.
>>98225220i hope tremere stay worse sorcerers ;)
>>98226156Call him Makara and call that it a day.
>>98226059Rolling for my Yuan-Ti pureblood Setite larper
>>98225065I wouldn't want Technocrats dragging cobwebs all over my house either.
>>98226158What do you think he'd be like in WoD?The prince of Epirus?
>>98225538dice+1d99>>98226059dice+1d99
>>98226200>>98226059>>98226252Anons what does this mean that I roll double 0s?
>>98226200>just noticed I didn't include 00 because I thought people would be using diceFuck it, counts as Methuselah. Anon is blessed by Set himself.
>>98226235There's Capadoccian potential, both for his origins and for how his vampirism is described as corpse like.If we go by the poem, he's probably an autarkis out of need, running away due to the masquerade breach his curse of corpse hunt brings.If we go by his irl actions and prestige, he's an obvious schenechal/scourge/scherrif combo and a toreador, right hand to various princes, having outlived them all.One could even say, he's the power behind the throne.After all, working for Ali, for the revolution and for Kapodistrias, all while everyone considers you a rat, well.Takes skill.
>>98226256All of my gooner posts on the general has retroactively been excused as in-character roleplay now. Thank you for this gift, great Typhon (you fucking hack).
Rolled 44 (1d99)>>98226059Rollan
Rolled 53 (1d99)>>98226269Thanasis as a Toreador is interesting, though he did want to sleep with his wife he ultimately failed. Not sure about Cappadocian either since they tend to be more passive and scholarly which I don't feel really fits him.I was searching for vampires in Greek folklore when I stumbled upon this guy.So far I haven't found much else.Though I did find out that there is a literal John Tzimisce.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I_Tzimiskes>>98226059
>>98226547>there is a literal John Tzimisce. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I_TzimiskesSubtlest Old Clan trying to enter a Camarilla Domain
>>98225538Ah fuck it
>>98219210Me in the background
>>98225220>Testing the waters for Hasbro to buy the WoD IPIT’S OVER
Rolled 2 (1d99)>>98226059Rolling for my Clan, not DnD shit.
>>98226059Rolling
>>98226799Haha, YES YES
Rolled 36, 1 = 37 (2d99)>>98225538>>98225568Not a gnome pls>>98226059Not a gangrel pls
i never used the dice feature before. what even if the email field the options one?
Anyone here played a Salubri before? I adore the lore around Saulot as a character but I cannot for the life of me make an interesting Salubri Character.
>>98226863i was at the same place once anon. then i looked at what onyx path wrote in lore of the bloodlines... and gave upif the writers who mind you been paid to try and find playable archetypes could not come up with something more playable then: "chosen one", cross over fooder and doctor(despite the name this one is actually the most unplayable one as it's just the lone salubri send to camarilla domains) then the clan is just doomed
What's the best Clan of choice to go full cheeki breeki mode?
>>98226827look at the pinned thread or use copy >dice+1d100into the options line
I'm about to sound real dumb and pathetic but were can I find good resources for running CofD games? I come from an OSR background with tons of dungeon delving and looting for gold, but I've been feeling an urge to branch out. I like X-men and a friend suggested I try out Deviant the Renegade, and I've liked what I read so far. Are there any good websites with advice on how to run games that do not have dungeons or killing monsters for gold/xp? I know it sounds really dumb but I'm a bit worried about having to run a game set in the modern world because I'm the type of person who only leaves the house to go to work and then come back. My experiences with the real world are kind of slim.
>>98226945Ravnos because you get to radiate hardbass and become a paper tiger.
>>98226908There were 7 salubris for a reason
>>98226973Nta but make sure not to include the >Seen plenty of newfags unwittingly do that or enter quotation marks
>>98227001>but were can I find good resources for running CofD games?iirc the Vigil books had some good advice on how to plan out a game.I get that changing is uncomfortable, but this is relatively simple. If you have any doubts, you can just watch a livestream of how people play the game.
>>98226945seconding Ravnos
>>98226945Gangrel
>>98227010My bad, I have been here too long.
Rolled 18 (1d100)>>98226059Let's see what we can get.
>>98227084Lizardfolk Gangrel, eh? Seems... fitting.
>>98226908>>98227009Fuck. My only ideas were "travelling monk who wants to reconcile the contradictory stories of Saulot" or "Tremere hunter" but those felt like metagame characters rather than full-lived people roped into a massive conspiracy of monsters they barely understand. Maybe combine them into some sort of forlorn travelling crusader looking to reconcile Christian faith with the shitshow noddist lore is? Ughhh... I don't love it but it's the best I got.
>>98227084Another picture for the collection!
>>98226059
Rolled 10 (1d99)>>98226059>>98227212goddammit
>>98227131Which era? Which metaplot?But pilgrim/historian works in virtually any setting - overtly collecting old manuscripts and studying nuances of Christianity across its various branches, covertly pursuing Kindred history.
>>98225446Mystics are bad but let's not pretend like having sex with aliens is any better. Women will be replaced by their superior versions, made out of metal and equipped to deal with anything ranging from combat to mining crypto.
Rolled 71 (1d99)>>98226059LEZZGOGimme something fun, I wanna sow chaos
>>98227267Welcome to the divine lineage of mighty Set, kindred!
>>98227285praise snek
>>98227131i once had the idea of something similair but from a vastly different background: a watcher salubri who came to the west and knew all the zao lat lore and esoteric asia stuff but never talked to another kindred before but then dav20 and BJD established that the watchers are pretty much saulot's thumb even tonight and are fully aware of his plans and some like the pov of their dav20 write up even been complicit with the salubri genocide which pretty much locks them into being anti salubri salubri double agents and if you try to do something else then not only can direct agents of your fucking antediluvian find you and order you around personally no saulot can now just take over your body because what was his problem with the eldest again?shit so lame man
>>982245761E basically requires the blue book for all splats, 2E makes everything you need to play be in the splat, with the blue there mainly if you want to do mortal/ghost campaigns and/or want the God-Machine stuff.The blue book is also really nice to have to run campaigns out of setting with "above average, but decently vulnerable" normal humans. Hurt Locker is a really good book to get as well in general.
Rolled 91 (1d100)>>98225538
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>98227352okay cat girl abomination of clan >>98226059
>>98227357fuck yeah what a fucked up monster
>>98226324Just because of the dedication to shitpost, roll well, and cum on pictures of hand-drawn character art you should convince your ST your character deserves an additional dot of Generation. Tell him someone on the internet said so.
>>98227267>>98227285Smol and snekhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PUMMD5Fjg10&ra=mI love it Shark approvesI was also the one asking on to replicate Medusa’s stare in oWoD. I like the Cursed flaw, as well as the combination discipline of Serpentis and Visceratika
>>98226863>>98226908their clan books premades are better, but not by muchThe Holy Thief: petty thief turned smug warriors salubri who thinks that other cainties shouldn't have holy thingsElectra: edgy anti tremere... well they didn't even give this one a backstory that matters> What you were before your Embrace holds very little interest for you Searcher into God’s Mysteries: literally just a healer salubri with autism who sees divine design in everything, but does nothing interesting with this beside keep some rat skeletons in his pockets. Could probably be made interesting by having him team up with a cappadocian or medival giovanni Demon Hunter: just a stereotypical warrior salubriCourt Advisor: just a normal politically interested cainite from a minor noble familly, pretty much half the clans have one of these guys in the Libellus Sanguinis books. with the only interesting part of his backstory being that he tries to keep his secure position despite the genocide. probably the most interesting premade here but that's faint praise and he also have a very limited shelf life as the second edition of the dark age books already had the salubri pretty much purgedThe Battlefield Healer: exactly what you expect. Wandering healer who was a doctor before yada yada yada the only noteworthy thing is that they couldn't resist making this guy several hundred years old>It was longer ago than you care to remember, possibly a few hundred years, when you were a youth apprenticed to a doctor. but as a premade he has zero exp on his character sheet making him the single weakest elder in all of vtm
>>98227380Sadly I am the ST.
>all this snakeposting and no one posted Monogatari snakeSad!
Rolled 51 (1d100)>>98226059please no clan that starts with T
>>98227418>The Battlefield Healer: exactly what you expect. Wandering healer who was a doctor before yada yada yada the only noteworthy thing is that they couldn't resist making this guy several hundred years oldYou know what could be fun? Literally Hawkeye Pierce as a vampire.
>>98227479You jinxed it, anon!
>>98227479
>>98227492fine.. fine!>>98227490just like a true tremere i am going to pretend that this was my plan the entire time! and then try to avoid the consequences of this and all my other fucks up for the entiretly of my unlife which will of course cause me to create more fuck ups and andno but for real i didn't want a tremere because i am already playing a tremere in a game this weekend
>>98227285Hey setite-anon, bahari-anon here. Since I paid tribute to Set, would you be willing to doodle my bahari wearing this outfit, please? Any of the neon green parts you can just make a solid black.>same hair and glasses as before>head tilted slightly up so she is looking down at you through her glasses>predatory smile>standing with her legs slightly apart, one hand on her hip, and the other arm hanging flaccid while holding a blood dripping scourge>a few spots of blood spatter on her face and torsoI would really appreciate it.
How to play as a self-hating Brujah?
How indulgent are your games, and what scenarios would you like to play out if shame weren't an issue?
>>98226059Big money!
>>98227131A very confused "Caitiff" of another Clan, who is in danger.
>>98227671>what scenarios would you like to play out if shame weren't an issue?I make every sexy female NPC and PC into my Toreador Anarch's personal harem.
Rolled 75 (1d99)>>98227681I am a moron. Let's try this again.
>>98227671I’m too shy to indulge, but I like ENF
>>98227698>I make every sexy female NPC and PC into my Toreador Anarch's personal harem.Based.>>98227711I like the idea but it is something that requires a lot of "fate" bullshit.
>>98227704AYOOOOOOO DIS DUDE LIKES FUCKING HIS SISTER HAHAHAHA
>>98227730
>>98227711Yeah well guess what anon[s]Goated taste.[/s]
>>98227671Seen or done:>shameless onee-shota shipping (lasombra x tremere)>straight seduction, gay seduction, implied bestiality>sadism, torture-feeding (fatal for the victim)>various misuse of ghouls (survivable)Would like to try:>ryona, body horror, ego death (possibly through Blood Brothers circle bond)
>>98227759>He fucked up the spoilerA most shameful display.
>>98227728Well it did happen to the tzimisce teen in my coterie last game>>98227759A fellow man of good tasteA great shame that on /aco/ the quality of ENF is trash to medium, and that the passable ones are always spammed. On /e/ the quality and quantity is vastly superior but most of the stuff is censored. Mosaic even, which is among the worst kind imo. Well, I guess that beggars can’t be choosers.
>>98227770>shameless onee-shota shipping (lasombra x tremere)Who seduced who?>straight seduction, gay seduction, implied bestialityGangrel?
>>98227791>Who seduced who?They had a bit of rivalry going on, but also ended up in various... situations together, some nudity, physically tied together, emergency-feeding off each other, and so on. >Gangrel?Nosferatu
Rolled 10 (1d99)>>98226059prolly Malkavian but may as well
Moons and Junes and Ferris wheelsThe dizzy dancing way you feelAs every fairy tale comes realI've looked at love that wayBut now it's just another showAnd you leave 'em laughing when you goAnd if you care, don't let them knowDon't give yourself awayI've looked at love from both sides nowFrom give and take, and still somehowIt's love's illusions that I recallI really don't know, I really don't know love at all
Will Hasbro give WoD to the WotC team to make along side D&D 5.5e, or will they give it to the Renegade Games team to make along side Transformers, MLP, Power Rangers, and G.I. Joe 5.5e?
>>98227817>nosferatuI was expecting garou
>>98227872Honestly Hasbro hell is possible but odds are they will just sit on WoD.
>>98221471Check the OP links. The Mage Translation Guide might be placed with the Awakening stuff instead of Ascension, but I am pretty sure it is in there somewhere
>>98227622Here you go, Bahari-anon. I'm sorry it's so rough, I wanted to scribble it down before I turn in for the evening.
>>98226059Sounds like fun.>>98223425I really have to ask why every fork of lovecrqfts mythos keeps putting Azzy at the top of the foodchain.Lovecraft's origonal lore put him below Yog, and when I say below I mean the difference between azzy and Yog is like the difference neyween Azzy and dustmites on your keyboard.
Rolled 27 (1d100)>>98227957>>98226059Need to actually roll
>>98227953Im just happy to get pictures. Everytime I tried to commision something I would always get the run around about them "not feeling very creative lately" or some other excuse. Not like I was asking for free pictures, I was willing to pay.
I am just seven hours oldTruly beautiful to beholdAnd somebody should be toldMy libido hasn't been controlledNow the only thing I've come to trustIs an orgasmic rush of lustRose tints my worldAnd keeps me safe from my trouble and pain
>>98227953Damn, I hope that Serpent aux Yeux Bleu makes an appearance in my game. I’d love to see your take on Shark when the two meet
>>98222891Everything should be playable.
Could a single Euthanatoi Archmage solo an entire city's Camarilla?
>>98228036Considering that an archmage with Entropy 7 can manipulate probability to create a chain of bafflingly unlikely events that collectively lead to the extinction of an entire species, yes. It would just be a case of them scaling such a ritual down and targetting a smaller group, in this case, a single city's Camarilla. All the archmage would need to do is sit back in their sanctum, cast the ritual and wait for the inevitable. A lot of archmage shit is stupidly powerful to the point where the only thing capable of fighting back against it is ten-dots-in-a-discipline plot device bullshit.
>>98227671Honestly not very, certainly compared to some of you. Sexual stuff comes up but the act itself isn't usually the focal point, nor is it ever played for titillation. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that kind of stuff with my friends. It's weird, I actually do think about my PC's sexual orientation and even sometimes kinks, but the latter doesn't ever come up, I'm just the kind of player that likes to think about and get into the headspace of their characters, and that's a normal' albeit usually private, part of being human. Even if you erased my sense of shame and the consequences for being horny at the table, it wouldn't be much to write home about. Mostly just bondage and domination assisted by supernatural powers.
>>98219879>In this Fan Reboot of the World of Darkness, instead of vampires or magi being privileged in terms of setting and metaphysics, demons take priority.Are you retarded? One of the greatest things about oWoD is that in each splat, the elements of that splat takes priority. Demon could've been better/bigger, but it is still absolutely true for it.
>>98228036*blocks ur path*
>>98228111Meant for both >>98228036 and >>98228088
>>98228036Theoretically absolutely. But while Archmage fuckery is bullshit beyond belief, we have to acknowledge that the whole "the elders pull strings from the shadows" and "the antedeluvians speak through the blood" has genuine merit narratively if not mechanically, and they would likely actively oppose such a thing the moment it becomes apparent, which is after three primogen accidentally fall on stakes by pure accident in a single night.Also, archmages are barely even fucking human, why would they give a shit about cockroaches? They have cockroach-free horizon realms at home.
You ever throw out all the lore and make up your own? Like, use Vampire to run a game in Vampyr or something?
>>98227267Praise Set. Also Kiwi-chan very cute.
>>98228111Supernaturals are not subject to Paradox/consensus, and probability manipulation is almost always Coincidental, especially if it is from a rite/rote no-one sees you do.So unless he makes them all spontaneously combust in the middle of the night, he should be fine.
>>98227469I should make Sadeko as a Setite
>>98228015I had never thought about Promethean that way but hey, you're right. Rocky would be a Gallateid.In just seven days.I can make you a maaaaaa ah ah ah an
>>98227671during covid I convinced my spouse to try WTA as a lupus red talon ahroun. he had no idea about the setting (or wod in general) so I just kept feeding him red talon propoganda from their tribe book all the way from his first change to rite of passage for pure ludokino. later on i planned on having him join the winter council so I can watch him be racist to my femboy mage dmnpc that I was planning on introducing when he's sent to the PNW but then he accidentally slaughtered an entire alaskan town, and the lockdowns ended before I had time to salvage that.
>>98228147That's the point, though. Nothing's stopping e.g. the resident Malk primogen from arranging things via Auspex and Dementation (maybe Dominate too) to have a bunch of hobos gangstalk the mage by coincidence until he gets paradox'd to death when a bunch of crackheads catch a glimpse of him doing his hocus pocus at the worst possible time, "coincidental" or no.
>>98228131By that point, the ritual has already been cast and the fate of the Camarilla in that city is set in stone. The only way to make this an even fight is if all of the Camarilla and the archmage are put in a room and forced to duke it out there, in which case, the Camarilla come out on top. But you have to ask the question of how the archmage was so retarded that he ended up in a cage-match, instead of picking off the vampires with ritual magic from a comfy, warded sanctum, in which his magic is not vulgar and would not cause Paradox, even if a gaggle of hobos like >>98228165 suggests do manage to somehow infiltrate it and bypass its likely numerous defences to witness the ritual.
>>98227791>implied bestiality>gay/straight seductionThis is just trying to rizz up a Silver Fang
>>98228176Cropping is for Sleepers, I regret nothing.
>>98227872>HasbroThe IP will be dead in the water or cannibalized by Wizards in either MtG or DnD. At the end of the day, not very different
>>98228088>>98228176>"MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA I'M A MAGE I'M BETTER THAN EVERYONE ESPECIALLY JOSH WHO USED TO GIVE ME SWIRLIES IN HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT BITCH STACY WHO MADE FUN OF ME FOR ASKING HER OUT FOR PROM NIGHT I'M INVINCIBLE YOU CAN'T DO SHIT TO ME I'M GONNA CONQUER THE WORLD FROM MY NEET CA- I MEAN MY AWESOME MAGICAL SANCTUM AND SHOW MY PARENTS WHO'S BOSS AFTER THEY KICKED ME OUT OF THE BASEMENT AND I'M GONNA-">*random human office worker notices you*>"AAAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE PARADOX-SAMA DON'T BUCKBREAK MY MAGUSSY NO PLEASE I'M SORRY YAMERO TASUKETEEEEEEEE AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE"
>>98228187We're talking about archmages, the mage equivalent of Antediluvians.You wouldn't throw a tantrum about Zapathasura crushing a city's Camarilla, so you shouldn't shit yourself over an archmage doing the same.
>>98228189No no no, you don't get to play dumb, we both know what's going on. It's another episode of Magefags Being Insufferable Dunning-Kruger Faggots. Always shitting this and other threads up with this endless obsession with showing everyone else up. Just piss off already.
>>98228198Well, we can reverse the situation.Could a single Antediluvian solo an entire city's Chantry? Shit, let's tone it down a little. Could a single fourth-generation methuselah solo an entire city's Chantry?The answer is yes, they could, just like an archmage could solo an entire city's Camarilla.
>>98228202>>98228036Honestly that's more reasonable. This is a single city. A single Methusaleh, Mummy, Master Mage [not archmage], or Garou Legend strolling up could absolutely crater a city full of leeches and the best case scenario is that city sits on some other being in that tiers strategic interest and choose to get involved.
>>98226547https://vampiria.forumcommunity.net/?t=22212422#entry409630424
>>98228176>By that point, the ritual has already been cast and the fate of the Camarilla in that city is set in stone.I am not convinced that is true. If the power acting upon the world ceases, it may well avert disaster. Either way, the archmage has made powerful enemies, possibly far more powerful than he realizes.>make this an even fight.It never was and never will be an even fight.
>>98228176>Camarilla and the archmage are put in a room and forced to duke it out thereThey are, by the way. The "room" is the Tellurian.
>>98228324>If the power acting upon the world ceases, it may well avert disaster.I mean by M20 ritual spells that have been locked into Patterns with pre-set duration are entirely out of the mage's control. You can kill the mage and the ritual will keep going unless you find another Mage with the appropriate Spheres to do the Unweaving.
There are 3300 vampires living in the United States alone. The average Camarilla city possesses a Prince whose usually an Elder of the Sixth or Seventh Generation and a group of Primogen who are usually made up of the oldest or most influential members of a given Clan. The rest of the city is a pool of Ancillae and a majority population of neonates. So we're talking one elder, 6-12 weaker elders or ancillae, a broader pool of ancillae filling the common roles, and a few dozen neonates as the average vampire city. I'm fairly confident you could wipe a vampire city's leadership off the map as a third party and all that would happen is the lower ranked survivors would seize the reigns or opportunistic vampires from adjacent areas would extend their territory. For most non-critical cities you could wipe the whole city's undead population off the map and cause at worst a regional crisis. The Camarilla isn't going to descend on you like a storm for pulling shit like this. The Lupines wiped out all the vampires in Fort Worth? Shit that sucks, lets wait twenty years then send in some guys to rebuild.
Where dem Glass Walker women at??
>>98228347That feels like such a low number. If you told me that was everyone in, like, New York or LA I'd believe you. The whole county? You know Canada and Mexico's vampire populations would be tokien satellite branches of the American Camarilla, so they wouldn't be big enough to rival the US pop. 3000 is basically all the North American vampires. Just feels so unbelievable.
>>98228401Honestly I feel the opposite, I'd cut the number down significantly. The idea you could keep the lid on 80,000 vampires globally to me strains my disbelief to breaking, and shatters it when you add in all the other freaks. I do a lot of demographics for my games, most of my educated guestimates put the total number of nontrivial supernaturals on Earth at like a quarter million. That's crazy to me.From a Storyteller perspective I also prefer low numbers. If there's 190 vampires in New York State [presumably cut up into the 4-5 biggest cities with few suburban or rural vamps] then a coterie changing things up in one of them doesn't really seem improbable. Less freaks means each freak has more potential influence, IMHO.
>>98228187Mages don't get patadox for rituals done in their sanctum. The office worker would at best increase the difficulty of the ritual by +1.That the equivalent of saying a vampire instantly dies of sunlight while in their sunproof haven, it makes no sense.
>>98228408I think the writers severely underestimated the size of the herd a vampire would need to feed safely, even pre-V5 blood potency shit.
>>98228428Hmm, now I'm curious. Let me math it. So a vampire needs 1 BP per night to rise, so that's 365 blood points per year just to exist. Lets assume they also spend more on Discipline use and healing and for ease round that up to about 700 BP per vampire per year. The average human possesses 10 Blood Points in their whole body. So vampires need to drink 70 humans worth of blood every year, or 1 every 5.2 days. Obviously Kindred prefer not to kill this often so rather than 70 to death its more like 140 to 350 people being fed on per vampire per year. And this is if all vampires survived on humans only [blood packs and animals also work] and that herds didn't exist and hunting was their only food supply. In a world where humans outnumber vampires 100,000 to 1, even the far extremes don't strike me as unreasonable. If the masquerade wasn't a factor you could physically feed way, way more Kindred than actually exist. The numbers are kept artificially low due to the need for secrecy and the Elders not wanting more subjects than they think they can reasonably rule over. If it was all herds it might be an issue, but I imagine vampires doing a lot of hunting and a lot of rationing themselves on fucking pig blood.
>>98228451Ghouls likely cut down the numbers a fair bit once you have a few to rotate between.
>>98228451It's a question of how many humans they can actually have available to safely feed from regularly. Particularly for a vamp without dominate or presence who can't just mind whammy some random stranger. Oblivious club goers willing to go into a backroom with a stranger and then not mind getting a particularly aggressive hickey are a small and finite resource.>>98228502Ghouls use up vitae at a rate higher than you could safely feed from them.
>>98228512Ghouls need 1 Blood Point a month to stay Ghouled. Assuming thats comparable to a blood donation, you'd need to wait 2 days to regain the volume of blood lost but 3 months to fully recover. So ghouls would probably be a net loss in vitae unless you were greatly abusing them in which case I assume they'd die eventually. But overall I assume between herds, animals, and hunted people it all evens out. The logistics seem like they're not a hard sell when all my math caps out at maybe a victim a day and vampires are so utterly few in comparison. One kindred with 100,000 mortals to work with can figure something out, especially since vampires have had millennia to sort out what works.
>>98228451What's the rate of BP regen for a normal human? Even if it's only 1 BP a week, which seems extremely low unless everyone on earth is anemic, you'd only need 7-14 cattle humans for each vampire. So while 80k seems like an insane number, it would be more reasonable in practice... except that vampires almost exclusively live in cities and are therefore constantly feeding on the same supply and stepping on each others' toes all the time.
>>98228529>>982285341 WHO standard blood unit is, conveniently, also almost exactly 1/10th of the blood in an average human.
>>98228512>Oblivious club goers willing to go into a backroom with a stranger and then not mind getting a particularly aggressive hickey are a small and finite resource. You're severely underestimating the amount of clubgoers willing to do something like that.
>>98228534>>98228537Google fu says that a blood donor shouldn't donate blood more than once every 12 weeks for long term health. So presumably a vampire who fed from his ghouls every week would eventually kill them, though I don't know enough about medicine to say how quickly.
>>98228537Hmm, so in that case, assuming it's the RBC and not the plasma that's important, it does take 4 weeks to regenerate fully. Which would significantly increase the requirement since each vamp is burning almost an entire month's worth of RBC each day just to exist. That is pretty big, especially in winter and/or colder climates where people are less likely to spend nights out rather than in.
>>98228512>Oblivious club goers willing to go into a backroom with a stranger and then not mind getting a particularly aggressive hickey are a small and finite resource.How to out yourself as a kissless virgin in one sentence.
>>98228369I'd rather have a comfy stinky bone gnawer gf
>>98228144She’s the cutest girl in the world
>>98228142Depends on what you mean. I've discarded a lot of small lore, like who is Prince, what sect owns what city, stuff like that. I'm also happy to mix and match stuff between gamelines, I'll take stuff from Requiem fairly often. Hunter: the Vigil is naturally fairly open. I also create custom monsters fairly often and work them into what my table has going on, but it's still staying in a WoD of sorts. Just my group's very customized WoD that'd make purists shit themselves.Only time we've done something like what you're suggesting is when we used Hunter: the Vigil for a game set in MtG's Innistrad setting. The official 5e book for it wasn't out and honestly while it still wasn't perfect we felt it fit the dark fantasy a little better than D&D.
>>98228142At one point wanted to use ExWoD Dark Ages to run a Bloodborne-esque urban fantasy game in a homebrew setting patchworked from gothic classics and found footage horror podcasts.Might get back to workshopping it some day.
>>98228111Plenty of hobos have their brains cooked badly enough in some way that 2 hermetics dueling in front of them wouldn’t register as weird. If you want to nuke a mage with paradox, you need either an upper middle class office worker, or a sleeper scientist (especially one working for DNA since even seeing a garou step sideways in front of the cameras didn’t convince them that the supernatural exists)
You know, if we enchanted the sleepers with that fae magic more often we wouldn’t be kicked in the nuts by paradox.
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>>98229192Anon, the intelligence of individual Sleepers present is irrelevant to spell vulgarity. Whether you spell is vulgar or not is based on the HAB (Hypothetical Average Bystander) of the region. Now, could you argue that the specific Sleepers around you at the moment of casting a spell are too retarded/stoned to realize they're seeing the impossible? Maybe, but at best that'll just mean it doesn't count as "vulgar with witnesses". You're still getting Dox'd, bitch.
>>98228330That just means that someone needs to make a reluctant call to the local chantry and hope they'll be cooperative.
>>98228016It would certainly be entertaining, but obviously I won't hold any expectations for my character to be incorporated into another table's chronicle. I might do a scribble of Shark for funsies though. Does he canonically wear the metallic drama mask featured in the picture you've posted?
>>98229266Why would any Chantry actually want to stop the Leech Stomper 9000 from clearing out their turf? Not to mention Mages are much rarer than vamps so there's no guarantee they'll have someone with the right Spheres available locally.
>>98229236stinky is good actually
>>98228545If they are a ghoul, they'll be fine. Ghouls become incredibly resilient compared to humans. Honestly if it wasn't for the hypergay brainwash aspect, ghouls would be the unquestionable winners of the setting, save *perhaps* arguably awakened.
>>98229284Because they are also Camarilla, whether you like it or not.
>>98229288Have you seen any alligators in the sewer lately?
>>98229306Traditions don't give a fuck about maintaining the Masquerade, mate. Vamps getting outed would be such a radical shit to the Consensus that any Tradition mages actually invested in the Ascension War would welcome humanity accepting the existence of monstersAt best vamps could get help from the Technocracy, but those are about as likely to just let the ritual run is course and then cover the death up. Mages largely don't give a fuck about whether vamps society survives.
>>98229222You'd need the fae to actually do something useful for once and that's not happening. I think it would also wear off over time.
>>98229255Yes, but a witness increases both the difficulty of the spell AND the amount of paradox the mage gets in a botch, so if you want to ensure that he’ll get dragged into the Weaver’s mage spider torture dungeon, you want someone who can see that and go “wait, that’s impossible”
>>98229222dude fae are impotent when it comes to influencing humanity on a large scale due to the mists they love nothing more than to reveal themselves to humanity but they just can't because their hardware won't allow itthe guys you need to talk about are lucifer given that he canonically does reveal himself in los angeles and later blows the masquarade wide open in the dtf toj scenario and renegade wraiths who want to blow open the fact that wraiths exists so that humans could help them resolve their feters and perhabs you could also convince horus and his homies that it would make it easier to hunt setites and wyrm creatures
>>98229277It’s not a mask lolIt’s the AI that can’t do a monstrous nosferatu but still human-like face without making it look like Ghostface. I did try to tell the AI to give him Kisame’s face (from Naruto) in the prompts, but to no avail.He’s basically tall and gaunt like the wendigos in Until Dawn, but with a maw with rows upon rows of pointy teeth like Pennywise. I never put much thought into his clothing. He just wears the bloody clothes from his victims until they turn to rags.
>>98228036Most cities have a like a dozen vampires, most being young retards. Like, fucking New York only had like 100 and Camarilla basically ate itself from overpopulation.90% of cities on Earth are one day bad away from having no vampires. Like those in Bloodlines 2 where a bunch of ghouls and a few thinbloods cornered the Prince in her skyscraper. So yes, Archmage wins.
>>98228108Be honest with yourself. Both Mage: the Ascension and Mage: the Awakening dominate with regards to metaphysics and cosmology.
>>98228131>why would they give a shit about cockroaches?
>>98228142That's exactly why the Chronicles of Darkness exist. You aren't burdened with metaplot and author's inserts.
>>98228156It's astoundingTime is fleetingMadness takes its tollBut listen closelyNot for very much longerI've got to - keep controlI remember doing the timewarpDrinking those moments whenThe blackness would hit meAnd the void would be callingLet's do the Timewarp againLet's do the Timewarp again
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>>98228347 >>98228408 >>98228408There are around 3000 billionaires in the world. Make of that what you will.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires
>>98229642>He vampired across the room billionairely
>>98229545>Meanwhile LA had like 60 Camarilla vamps, 30-40 Anarchs, and like 300 shovelheadsI think the setting works better with somewhat higher numbers
>>98229735He stared at the window and glowered menacingly, his voice like wet thunder. "I did it to protect you," he said, that thick, cloying Boston-by-way-of-London accent rolling firmly."Protect me from what?" She asked, her tiny, feminine squeak of a voice conveying her no-nonsense businesswoman worldview. Dressed in a miniskirt and hoodie, she was delicate and somehow strong, like a stepsister on the internet.He opened the blinds and revealed the brick wall outside of the windows, bathing his lithe, athletic form in cold, brutal blue neon light from the sign of the all-night liquor store over the abandoned church next door."From the bad things, [title woman], because reasons."Then, he turned into a cloud of glittering bats and vanished through the window.-- excerpt from Vampwolf of Business Town: a Christmas Prince Saga, volume one: Hallmark Woman-Queen
>>98228451>>98228428Well feed safely is a different dilemma here, is it feeding safely if you're leaving a group of 200ish humans anemic and obviously fed on for someone to discover?
>>98229742>Cut to the reasons not mattering and the book turns smutty the chapter right after until the end
>>98228180>silver fangsHe didn’t mention incest, though>>98229740Just had this idea of an army of shovel heads (as in, ghouls fleshcrafted into having shovels in place of their heads)
What is the best edition of Princess?
The one that you like most.
>>98229837there isn't a single one. It's not like a 1e to 2e version where you can say one is better or worse. it's messier than thatthey first split because they couldn't agree on what to focus on and then fans of both versions started to make 2 more versions
>>98229417Noted. I'll see if I can come up with something when I get home from work tonight.
>>98229821Kek, that'd be an interesting enemy
>>98227957I always read it as Yog exists functionally outside and independently of reality, while reality even as far as outer gods experience it stems solely from Azatoth. Sure, Yog's existence isn't dependant on Azatoth, but Yog's also kinda in the cuck chair of all higher existence.
>>98229837iirc Crystal was the least Jank one but read up what the document is like before sending it to your players.
How do you guys make your spirits?
>>98230581Depends.While it mostly depends on what kind of spirit it is, I like to broadly make three types of spirits.1) Human/Humanoid: I like to make them like this if they are going to have significant presence in daily lives of my players. Plus hot ones if my players want to bang spirits.2)Semi-Humanoid/Monsterous: They are guys they might regularly interact and usually have plot related significance.3) Alien/Eldricth: Usually one of encounter and/or enemy
>>98225804>>98225305i know i am late but this is just something wizard of the coast does right now. They also have a Cthulhu by Torchlight book writen by chaosium on DnD Beyond that was commissioned by wizards as a DnD Beyond Exclusivei guess they want to catch the players that left after 5.5 again?
>>98230918>i guess they want to catch the players that left after 5.5 again?I mean they have fuck all to offer right now. the wave they rode with 5e is now a lake so still it could be used as a mirror.
>>98228142I'm trying to make my own WoDesque videogame but it's hard. I'm pretty solid on what the systems have to be like and how to implement them but for the story and lore I'm completely blank. I'm basically just stealing the Pillar Men/Vampire system of Jojo mixed with diablerie for lore and having Lilith as source instead of Caine.
>>98228142>You ever throw out all the lore and make up your own?Nah never felt the need to do that and still use the engine. Sure I could use another setting but since there's not interest at the table no need to flesh it out.
>>98230849>Plus hot ones if my players want to bang spirits.You need to get spirit heritage characters some how.
>>98229821Maybe it could be one of those Silver Fangs that thinks gay sex was kinky and was going into an unwanted marriage with a cousin or something (hence gay seduction.)
Here’s three easy steps to be more powerful than a mage>Be fae>Learn and use Name at max rank on yourself and turn into celestial dragon, basically a living god>Profit
Rolled 21 (1d99)>>98226059Come on Tremere.
>>98231252>MalkavianFuck yes!
>>98229327>Traditions don't give a fuck about maintaining the Masquerade, mate.I mean they do, but that's really not relevant.>TechnocracyAlso irrelevant but would not care, as they are far more likely to want to fumigate a city to begin with.>Mages largely don't give a fuck about whether vamps society survives.Depends on what kind of mages.
>>98229255Semi-related but if the sole witness is both a kinain and so retarded that they have an immunity to lobotomies, are you still getting fucked?>>98228862So true! So real!!
>>98231428>Kinain + retardedThis is basically already a spellcaster?
>>98231173Alternatively:>be true brujah elder (or elder with at least 8 dots in temporis)>approach mage>use Clio's Kiss and summon fucking Caine>die knowing the mage is getting raped too
>>98231448Yeah I figured, just thought I'd ask. Our golden retriever pooka stays winning bau bau
>>98231459>Caine looks at you>looks at the mage>apologizes for his retarded grandchild>curses you with 17th generation blood>returns to mope in his own time
>>98231512Yeah pretty much.
>>98231428>Semi-related but if the sole witness is both a kinain and so retarded that they have an immunity to lobotomies, are you still getting fucked?no you are fine: minor splats like kinfolk, ghoul and kinain never count as witnesses even if they aren't aware of their own supernatural status and hell even normal humans who know too much about the supernatural (st discretion) don't count as wittnesses. but imbued always count even if they don't want to and have the second sight offline
>>98230026Yog isn't outside the universe, he IS the universe. He's everthing in lovecraft canon across every point in space and time, azathoth included.That's also the weird part, the "Azathoth Dreams Reality" thing isn't just not from lovecraft, it's a massive NERF compared to the actual canon."Dreaming entire universes, including other creatures able to dream universes" is an ability that the appropriately named Dreamers have. Dreamers, in lovecraft canon, are at the Bottom of lovecraft's cosmic being hierarchy. They compare to gods the way ants compare to dreamers, and the Eldritch beings compared to Gods the same way. Theres similar gulfs between the powers of eldritch beings, with cthulhu being so far below Shub Niggurath the he can has trouble percieving her as anything other than an abstract concept.
how hard would it be to convince a khan consor to stay in sokto form
>>98226863>>98226908>>98227418Ok I got itA Coach looking to make their protégé a big star. Failed to reach Golconda but this new kid has potential.
>>98231024So basically vampires in your homebrew are Lilith’s personal army/harem of juiced up gay bodybuilders?>>98231155You’re assuming that a gay SF wouldn’t seek out one of his male cousins first (probably a fellow garou instead of kinfolk)
>>98231900you are playing the coach not the protégé right? sounds good you can play up that the character did something that makes them believe that they will never ever deserve to reach golconda afterwardsone thing i would probably do is have the character still look for said protégé and then you can explore if that person would look for a childe who is basicly themselves but without what they see as the character flaw that lead to them being convinced that they can't reach golconda or for someone very unlike themselves which of course requires the character to self reflect which would invite the question of if they really are doomed or not
>>98231936>Lilith’s personal army/harem of juiced up gay bodybuildersNah. Lilith would have an army of twinks and pent up femboys along with various monsters you would expect to appear on the covers of womens' gooner books
>>98231870As the most horny of the fera breeds, it would entirely depend on how often and how enthusiastically you fuck them in sokto.I do have to ask, why? Khan aren't one of the bastet tribes that get an appearance bonus in sokto. They don't turn into catgirls like the bubasti, ceilican, qualmi, and simba do.
>>98232034>I do have to ask, why?
>>98231936Somehow I feel like gay seduction and implied bestiality are less thematic if it's a kinfolk and the Garou is the one pursuing it. Just my 2 cents there.>Juiced up gay bodybuilder vampiresThe Brujah's new gym recruitment operation for disillusioned political extremists must be producing numbers then.
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