Christmas on the Frontlines!>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/They used to be split between the website and the discord, but no more. For posterity's sake, the old mega will still be kept active even if it's unlikely to need updating: https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAcUse these (and/or 3D printing) instead of the official plastics as their pricing contradicts the accessibility to the game (price wise) Trench Crusade was founded on.>Trench Companion, awesome warband builder and campaign trackerhttps://trench-companion.com/>Previous Thread: >>98091736>Thread QuestionYou get dropped into the world Isekai style, wdyd
>trench-companion.com/page/homebrew-documentationPutting up homebrew documentation, rest of the data types should be up by tomorrow then I can try and get going with the ContextEvents stuff (lord help me).
>>98222408It's not bait, I'm just curious if anyone else has had issues getting the book?They haven't even replied to my last email for over a week now
>>98223653>TQ>appear in front of the Supreme Pontiff wearing a blue wizard hat>"POPE PIUS X LISTEN TO ME, GOD HAS PUT HIS WRATH INTO THIS WORLD">"IN THE ERZEBIRGE MOUNTAINS BETWEEN BOHEMIA AND SAXONY LIES A METAL WITH 92 PROTONS">"TREAT ITS OXIDE WITH HYDROFLUORIC ACID TO PRODUCE A VOLATILE GAS">"THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO EFFECT ISOTOPIC SEPARATION IS WITH GAS CENTRIFUGES">"YOU NEED ATOMS WITH 154 NEUTRONS, THE BARE SPHERE CRITICAL MASS IS 50KG">Beelzepleb gets bombed into smithereens>expect reward>time for big titty nuns and a seat of power>instead get crucified because the bomb is too good>mfw
>>98223819Anon, we don't believe you.I have yet to hear anything like this, anywhere. In fact, by all accounts, they have been very prompt when it came to customer service.>>98223653>You get dropped into the world Isekai style, wdydDie.Hopefully quickly.I'm an American; I speak a dialect of English that doesn't even exist in-setting and I am a black muslim.I am toast no matter where I go.
>>98224819>You get dropped into the world Isekai style, wdydDie.The only real answer, TC is right up there with Warhammer fantasy when it comes to the worst places be isekai'd intoHopefully quickly.
My Marian bugs here to fight for our ladyStill need to paint the stickbug communicant and a few more ladybugs
>>98225176Lookin great already
>>98225176looks noice, you got the cartoony style down`
>>98225176I may have talked shit, but I respect the work, anon.May your victories be many, your death swift, and the Militant Christ the Lion welcome you.
>>98225365>>98225269>>98225263Thanks m8s
>>98225176Definitely not my kind of model, but great work, anon
What do you think is going on in Athens?
>>98225736Tremch you so nuch.
>>98225893Rainbows, smiles and thanksgiving to God all around, as instead of monstrous Turks for neighbors, they only have to contend with literal demons
>>98225893It seems to be church/God controlled, so its probably a citadel with some normalcy going on within.
>>98225176Someone tell them gays on hazbin hotel that lucifer is gonna need bugspray
>>98223653>>98223819Yeh no fuck this scam and fuck the devsAnyone supporting this is crigne af
>>98223653>TQ.Ship autist here.Try to get myself into Naval development/R&D, but realistically TC 1915 technology is orders above what our own was back then, so I might have some troubles with it, even with 2026 knowledge.Realistically, find a ship, find a god-fearing crew, and pirate our way around to the new world. The God-fearing crew would not exactly be our modern idea of tolerant to ungodly behavior. But at least they wouldn't be as unreasonable as heretics could be.
2 games today on Claim No Man's Land, Court of Pride vs Heretic Legion and Prussians respectivelyGame one victory for the court, heretic priest died turn one from light of samael as not only did the injury cause him to get downed but also he fell from the elevated terrain and 2nd roll was also 9+. Mix of sorcerer, sniper hellknight and gas granades finished off enough that start of T4 enemy conceeded since he deathballed a bit too much so it was 14:6Game two versus Prussians was a tie, not only did my sniper knight fail to finish off the heavy mechanized tank-slicer, but on turn 4 the singular bolt action rifleman sniper off my sorcerer from middle objective without any extra blood dice on him. 17:17Gotta love gas granades and Light of Samael even if i seem to have tendency of killing units when I just wanted few more blood markers for bigger fireball
Saw the FlashGitz Video and it got me wonderingIf you were to make Trench Crusade a Wargame at the Scale of Warhammer what would you do? What kind of Hombrew rules would you want to make TC battles into Warfare instead of Skermishs. Obviously alternating unit turns would have to go, and the size of Units would need increases. Simple stuff like squads of chaff in the 5s to 10s and such.
>>98228296Whose the bug in the middle, supposed to be>?The one with the backpack
>>98228296nice
>>98232522Stickbug communcant tankbuster the set didn't have communicants so I just printed a fuckhuge gun to glue to him
>>98232489Alter initiative rules to be a "go until you fail" kind of situation, ala Crossfire.You've got the model count to support it, and it flows really well. Would be a nightmare to balance though.All the homebrew I've seen though has just been dramatically boosting the points allowance, but putting a cap on elite units so you need to invest in chaff.
What gameplay gimmick should Hebrew Knights have? It can't just be golems.
>>98233361My take on it is that it'll be an extremely elite, sneaky force. Similar to the Alamut IS warband, but with big tanky knights instead of speed/time shenanigans. One single golem will probably be their heavy unit, but I expect them to be a melee-heavy "traditional medieval crusader" type army with miscellaneous godly shenanigans backing them up. I'm not really sure what their filler unit would be, though. Rando with a bolt-action seems to be contrary to their style, what little we know of it so far.
>>98233361You bribe your opponent to let you win the game.This counts as a win for official tournament purposes.Immediately becomes the best faction because it relieves you of the need to actually play this dogshit.
>>98224819Fuck gaslighting piece of shit like this. Just go on their Kickstarter page there's still tons of comments dropping in about people not receiving their stuff.
>>98233361Factions have seemingly gotten more complex as they get released (Grail, then Court, and the Path of the beast as implications of wierd rune organisation stuff) so it'll probably be complex. Maybe weird esoteric magic stuff, the sort of thing you only know about if you read old alchemical rabbi texts from 500 AD.
I'm trying to pick a skirmish game to get into and try to get a group going at the LGS. What do you like about TC compared to other skirmish games?
>>98237040Similar enough to GW skirmish games/other systems that it will make sense to people who have played them. Its a pretty overall simple system, so its a good choice imo.
>>98237040TC is pretty close to old Mordheim in style, but a more modern analogue would be Necromunda,
>>98237040It's very easy to learn, I can usually explain rules in under 15 minutes to a group of peopleIt is mini agnostic so people can use whatever the fuck they already haveThe system being so deadly results funny moments and relatively quick games
>>98235171Probably Americans. This is completely out of the developers' hands, right now it's impossible to send anything to the US.
>>98232489>Simple stuff like squads of chaff in the 5s to 10s and such.I think it should already be a thing. It's so weird to fight in trench warfare with just a few dudes. If chaff came in units of 2-6, for example, it'd give the game more of that waves of dudes crashing into each other. 2-3 dudes manning a machine guns or a small launcher (like those WW1 trench mortars and grenade crossbows), up to 5-6 man rifle squads and trench raiders. I don't care if the unit still operated like a single model (each dude lost representing one less fighting strength/firepower), but it'd give it some needed weight of bodies. I don't need the game to be hundreds of dudes clashing, but some mass would be nice.
>>98239042>"out of the developers hand"Yeh just like every other fuckup they claim is someone else's fault? Retard fell for it again award goes to you.
>>98239314Blame the retard-in-chief and the trade war that he started after the Kickstarter.
>>98239115I think Trench Crusade is aiming for a cinematic experience where your warband is the main guys the action centers around and everyone else is (invisible) background actors getting killed while your guys get the job done.
>>98239115TC is mostly about trench raiding, small troop movements as was common in the levant/middle east during ww1 or as >>98239339puts it the center of gravity for a major push
>>98239339>>98239352They can excuse it anyway they want, I still feel like having some chaff around would be more fun. But that's me. They can do whatever they want and I can look to other products.
>>98239336AH yeh how could I forget orange man caused all their issues>Resin traps>shitty pre-supports>Rugpull of STL's>DMCA abuse>Corporate "community" License>Flipped logo on dice boxes>Worldwide shipping delays>Books with bonked corners, errors and outdated rulesProbably forgot a few, feel free to add more to the list
No one here who already plays is going to stop playing because some faggot is whining about the game.Post models/games. Here is my first Azeb, working on his buddies now.
I thought i was done with my Lust C7HS Hell Knight but then i stumbled upon two minis i was gonna use as objective markers for my Slaanesh necromuinda gang but never got to it. Both fits perfectly as shoulder imps on the Hell Knight. I can't decide which one to use so i leave it up to you guys. Here's the plain one, no horns or wings
>>98240016And here's the one with wings and horns. right not neither is primed and just balanced there. Will have to bend teh hand to have her hold on to the back of the head of the Hell Knight, whichever one you guys choose.
>>98240018>"you ok, dude? boobs? wanna touch boobs?"
>>98240018>>98240016Wings makes a more interesting and balanced silhouette imo, I’d go with that
Barry the one armed MusicianHe may have one arm, but damn can the boy keep the beat
>>98239115>>98239339>>98239352I think all of this can be true, I merely think it would be cool to theory craft a grander scale Trench Crusade gamemode, similar to the multiplayer gamemode they mentionednothing as big as warhammer, but not as small as the climatic battles either, a in between where chaffs are 5 to 10, Elites (like Heavy Mechs) are 2-4 and Charaters (Heretic Priests and such) are attached to units for certain new buffs (imagine commanding a chaff squad to fire upon their own for instance, which could never be fair in small scale but could work in a larger scale)
Do I need to buy a 3D printer to get the minis or would a store that has Trench Crusade have a 3D printer themselves to print it out for you?
>>98241918If you can find a group there's a good chance of someone willing to print for you eitrher freely or for small changeif not, the prussians and I think other armies are available online for sale in Boxes
When buying the blue prints to print the mini, is it a one time purchase or do I need to buy it multiple times to print more?
>>98241994No dude, what?
>>98241994The STLs? You get the files and you can use them as much as you want.
>>98241918You can buy minis online from factory fortress if you don't have own a 3d printer or have a 3d print shop nearby
>>98241337Wings and horns version it is then.
>>98243470Hell yeah, be sure to post it when its fully painted, already off to a good start.
>>98245645I need to get a new can of my basing color and superglue so I'll probably finish it up during the weekend. I'll post pics of it when it is done.
Compendium anon I added a trench dog and it won't show up in my warband
>>98241994Man, you're in luck! You can only use STL files ones, but there's a trick; if you make a copy of the STL file before printing it, you can then use the copy to print the same model again! You can make as many copies as you want – show those Factory Fortress fat cats that they can't keep honest working class gamers down!
>>98223653I love how a cheap scam did so well that they could been the next 40K but they fucked it up so hard cause they woke fags that couldn't do the bare minimum.
>>98255946You need to add it to a model first, weird rules interaction I think.
>>98256254tell me about the scam part. I have spend 0 dollars on this game (only 3rd party stls) and the rules look fun
>>98256778I added the Trench Dog Ownership special item and it didn't add the dog to my warband for whatever reason
>>98257851Whoops, putting that on the bug list now. Thanks for letting my know.
>>98240018Nigga looks like the F.A.T.A.L cover lmao
>>98256884"I personally didn't get scammed so it isn't a scam">TC tards don't have functional brains as usual
>>98258311Yes I wasnt fleeced, its why I am asking.Can you just explain what the scam aspect was, retard?
>>98259174nta, but if we're speaking in specifically scam and not just shit head choices,the kickstarter. a ton of the delivered content was a mess of bad printing and cheaper resin then promised. combined, quite a few people just never got their stuff. you can scream /delivery issues/ all you want but at the end of the day, send the fuckin mail. i understand the shift in tariffs hit hard, taking a preorder, keeping the money, and just saying oh its too expensive to send right now is a piece of shit move and a scam. especially taking all that money and printing a bunch of better models and selling those for profit.
>>98239115You're essentially just elite warbands finding small combat off the fiercest fighting ATM. But they have said they'd like to do a fuller-scale war game eventually
>>98259310Ok, anon.
>>98228640/thread
>>98239390Yes. Plus the mini factory is in Kuwait so the cargo ships have all been hit by Iranian dronespls understand
>>98228640>Is that t-three guys out of over one h-hundred thousand backers without context??? Ahhh help me shittubers I'm going insaneThe game is literally free you faggot. Considering the bad faith actors I cannot take some rando faggot posting months after the kickstarter has closed seriously. Besides you're going to nogames/go back to 40k anyway.
>>98223843They already have "holy neutron bombs" so this wouldn't really change the war much.
>>98262630>"everyone who doesn't glaze my game is bad faith" Typical TC mongoloid response. Funny its actually people who are putting their heads in the sand or actively maliciously promoting TC as if Factory fortress is a cool community first indie studio and pretend they didn't corpo speedrun the second they thought they could get away with it is bad faith.Also, Only people who have actually backed the game can post on their kickstarter page you retard. There's literally several thousands of comments of backers who have issues if you scroll down>But they.. they already closed the kickstarter. Yeh exactly without delivering the goddamn product to everyone who paid for it. Thats called a scam.
Just ask the shitposter to post numbers.
>>98268938>corpo speedrunShittuber alert. Bro was lying in that video by the way. I have no context for anyone of those backers with issues, every single one has been replied to by FFI. If you were actually following it and not deep throating e-celeb cock you'd know that FFI has supplier issues which they made efforts to resolve, as they initially banked on $60k backers not $3million. The game is literally free. You have never read a single article or document from FFI, you're taking some random faggot on YouTubes opinion as gospel. You are literally arguing from bad faith. Just go back to posting in 40k lore threads lil bro.
i'm so glad i went in cheap with the kickstarter. Got some stls i will never print because i have no printer. So i don't feel scammed.Ironically i feel more scammed by a french KS i dropped a dollar on and they screwed me out of a dollar
>>98273777"bro was lying in the video by the way"Video with tons of verifiable evidence vs Reddit slander hearsay with no proof for rebuttals I know which side I'll more readily believe.But feel free to continue deepthroating the devs who've repeatedly been proven to lie and deceive.
What happens if I buy a regular dog for 1 glory and it dies? Can I just sell the dog ownership for 1 glory (it rounds up) and purchase another one?
>>98277576That is how Trench Companion implemented Trench Dogs. In reality, if your dog dies during Trauma Step, you lose the glory spent like a 1gl merc dying
People still trying to shill this game?
Imported Wares into a Brazen Bull wearing Machine Armour
>>98278481That's sick and immoral and now i want to make such a model
>>98278283I wouldn't call them people
>>98275007Post your receipt with name blurred out in green.
>>98279735receipt of what
>>98280853He means your receipt for your minis you're acting like you paid for but didn't receive
>>98278481Your mind is more twisted than that of a demons
>>98278283I litterally hated this game because every youtuber shilled it.Then I saw these bug minis which got me super inspired and the system looked good.Then it seems it was all a big scam. So now I am left with these ladybugs. Honestly they were really fun to paint and I like how they came out so I guess I have lost nothing.
>>98278481Forbidden arts
What would be a cool idea for a small, magnetized "tough marker" (remove it once tough is used up) to put on a base for trench pilgrims?My friend made some fancy crosses for his Papal States band. I could maybe go foor shoddy wooden crosses but I feel like the TPs might have potential for something unique.
>>98280859Why, so you can laugh at my misery?
>>98278283I kind of just visit this place every now and then. Not sure why really. It hurts a bit because the foundations were rock solid then all the screw ups happened and all that’s left are the zealous cultists. They won’t see reason and when they “do” they downplay the mistakes. This was never gonna be as big as 40k or warmahordes back in its prime but the fullest potential has been pissed away. I wouldn’t want this general to die though. /awg/ already has enough problems and doesn’t need rehashed 40k autism added to the mix.
>>98285101I see this talk, but this is the talk of people who aren't actually playing the game, and bought in to some grand narrative surrounding the game that the devs were not responsible for.I like the game because the lore is pretty decent in the 'this is why we FIGHT' way you need for a game to be played, the rules are simple enough for someone who has no wargame experience to pick up in less than an hour, the models are whatever you want them to be and allows for both experienced and rookie players to sink their teeth in.Everything you are mad about is not about the actual game, which is why people like me either laugh, mock, or roll our eyes at you. You were never here for the thing that actually mattered, and that is fine, but your winging about the never was gets old.If your complaint was something like 'the rules as written do not represent the kind of game that is trying to be run', I'd be totally on board for a conversation.It's not tho, and the only thing you have to offer is shitting on a game for not being what you imagined it was. It's become boorish and boring, a constant rehash of the exact same talking points for the last 8 months.This assumes you are not just lying, like many of the other 'detractors' are clearly doing.
>>98284047How much can the Kickstarter trench crusade rulebook reasonably sell for anyways? Are people who didn’t get their books still clamoring for their Kickstarter books?I’ve just lost hope that things are gonna turn around for the better and just want to get rid of the book and get some money back and pretend I never supported it after all of what FFI has done.Here’s hoping the spirit of the bogdanoffs make tc u-turn into what it people wanted it to be after I sell the book and move on. Lord knows there’s still a chance as the zealous support is still not gone yet.>>98285391I’m glad you like it I think. You most likely proved my whole thing about the denial and downplay thing somewhere in your post.
>>98285588Not downplay, I actually do not care about the thing you are focused on, which is what the company is doing outside making rules for a skirmish level wargame.Anything the company has down that you can name has not affected my ability to play the game in any tangible way, and if it had, I would have ill words to say. That said, they aren't fucking up the rules, so everything else runs a distant second to my concerns, if they place at all.
Looking at the game, mostly considering a New Antioch force, maybe Iron Sultanate on the side.Is it more worthwhile to go hard in to bodies on the field, elites, or a 60/40 (either way) mix?Just wondering what I need to kludge together from the start. I do want to do both campaigns and one offs.
>>98291050New Antioch tends to lean more towards wide lists and in general the game currently favors more activations over elite lists.I would recommend trying to do one-offs at a 700ducat/0glory limit so you can take that warband straight into a campaign if you like that. One offs are good for learning, but the game really shines more in campaign play.
>>98278481>Brazen Bull wearing Machine Armour
>>98293129no need for a shield at that pointjust give him two Titan Zulfiqars
>>98283818candles?skulls?shields?captcha objects?
>>98295889Candles or icons sound fitting
>>98295724Instructions unclear, created Takwin Homoculus with Human Hands, Inhuman Strenght, Massive Size, Gargantuan Size and Eagle Eyes and gave it MURAD Bombard instead.
>>98283818for trench pilgrims? Probably a cross, maybe a 'damaged' one to reflect that their stuff is mostly made from scavenged goods.
>>98291982>currently favorsI don't see how that can ever actually change unless they make armor super cheap and shrink the board so you can get objectives easier.The ease of taking a unit OOA with any decent roll means that more gunz is almost always going to be better gunz, unless there is a particular advantage the unit has over just the gunz.
Played my first game today, it was very fun. I played badly and got really bad rolls, my sniper priest one shotted his arty witch
