Let’s talk about the importance of self-care when it comes to staying active and fulfilled in trad hobbies.We’ve all seen disgusto, burnt out, and maladjusted men ranging from their late teens to late 50s at flgs and conventions powering through games on zombie mode, blindly making big purchases, stinking up play areas, raging like entitled babies, and generally acting like the hobby scene owes them something. I’m sure they didn’t all start that way, but dozens of poor choices, habits, and neuro pathways linked to tiny instant gratifications add up over the years. Many such people as described above are figuratively “always eating, never full” and it is breaking them down physically, mentally, and emotionally.It doesn’t have to be that way for them or for you. All it takes is a little cognizance around the issue, and investing in yourself first and foremost. After all, you are the one playing - not the cards themselves, not the dice, not the minis, and certainly not the companies selling them to you. You matter most to the hobby.
The following are all simple bits of self-care that make a huge impact on our ability to consistently paint minis, craft sovlful terrain, manage our spending wisely, and generally get along well with others even when we don’t like them.>Getting full, restorative sleep every night >Eating a baseline of nutritious food before piling on junk >Hydrating - drink more water than you drink energy drinks or coffee >Shower, trim nails, keep facial hair tidy, use deodorant >Wear clean clothes every day>Plan out spending with a budget>Set realistic goals and deadlines for completing projects >Manage your hobby time every week by setting aside deliberate time blocks to craft or play games - don’t always let it consume your entire day/night >Schedule your game days ahead of time but be flexible for impromptu pick-up games >Hang out with the people you game with outside of the game table sometime. Go to a restaurant after a game, watch a movie together, go to a con as a group, suck each other’s succulent cocks, etc.>Take photos of your games and projects so you can actually look back and feel content with your accomplishments and good memories once in a while instead of being strung along with fomo by corporations who don’t care about you and just want to push you forward to the next big consumer purchaseTell us about your own self-care priorities, successes, failures, or goals. You have a long life of hobby gaming ahead of you, make sure that it gives your life more value than it takes out of you.
I keep deciding to not get shitfaced every night while drinking alone, that's self care
>>98235102It is, and it can be difficult. Give yourself some credit and keep it up
>>98235068>suck each other’s succulent cocks, etc.Troon thread
I've been watching Amazon Prime Video during my cardio workouts because some Danish cunts burned down the servers for animekai. And while watching the 1990s cartoon for the Phantom I got some pretty good idea to adapt to my own cyberpunk game. Thanks 90s you edgy goofy fucks.
>>98235068>>98235063Why you copy-pasted this thread from the archive like it was something important or relevant?
>>98235223Link the archive post you think this is a copy of. We’ll wait and you wont post shit because you’re a liar and a sicko who wants others to be as miserable as you are.
>>98235703>We
>>98235185Two birds with one stone nice. You get a lot of mental clarity during cardio I wonder if that isn’t the secret best time to brainstorm game ideas
>>98235063>>98235068Do you think coming to 4chan to brag about your basic hygiene tips is well adjusted behavior?
>>98235707Yeah. Me and every anon reading this thread in good faith. We.If this bothers you so much, get help. Talk to your peers or seek a professional therapist.
>>98235720If you think enumerating basic self-care that every adult should be doing anyways is “bragging” you have serious issues. Get help.
>>98235727Do you have autism? It's extremely obvious what I'm saying. You are an idiot that can do the bare minimum and think you have advice to give. Every hobby has retards like you. There's always someone that just picked up a guitar, or just started reading, or learned how to shower that thinks they're a genius that has it all figured out.
>>98235737There’s an epidemic of unclean failed adults in the trad hobby. You sound like one of them trying to avoid personal responsibility and just shitting up the whole scene
Who ever needs to hear this; respect yourself, care for yourself, enjoy your trad hobbies in a happy healthy sustainable way, and do not let miserable self-defeating shit heads drag you down. Misery loves company.
>>98235134Thanks, Anon. Sincerely
>>98235175>>98235223>>98235720Sad. But you can still change. There’s time.You can rescue yourself from self-hate, ignorance, and the allure of instant but ultimately meaningless material gratifications.Even if you don’t believe in yourself, I do. You can make it.
>be me>371lbs on Dec 1st 2025>fast forward several months>weight myself today>294lbsI'm going to make it bro's this time next year I'll be around 180-200lbs.
>>98235185P? That you?
>>98235185Phantom 2040 was really really good for its budget, at least until they watered the show down at the behest of the suits in season 2.
>>98235918How does you crying over being insulted on 4chan fit your self care routine?
>>98236241Oh stop, you’re just projecting your own massive insecurities at this point. Fix your life. Get out of retail, make real friendships, stop eating junk for every meal. The rest will follow.
>>98236126That’s great dude, keep going and maintain the mindset. Let the success and moment trickle into other aspects of your life. You’re gonna make it
>>98235063>Hobbyist self-carenot necessaryall that matter is hobby
>>98236306You should try touch an actual woman
>>98236584You’re not helping and no one thinks you’re witty.
>>98236596try to touch*sory
>>98236537Hobby is a great purpose but if we don’t maintain ourselves it will destroy us. Car is great, but we gotta clean it, refuel it, replenish its fluids, replace faulty parts, and not push it harder than it can take
>>98236606>>98236596sorry*sorr
>>98235068>>Getting full, restorative sleep every night>>Eating a baseline of nutritious food before piling on junk>>Hydrating - drink more water than you drink energy drinks or coffee>>Shower, trim nails, keep facial hair tidy, use deodorant>>Wear clean clothes every dayMan, I've stopped doing all of those since I broke up with my ex. I told myself 'don't get attached' and 'it's not gonna last'. She was 14 years younger than me and a walking red flag. I was the one that ended it but, god, now I fucking miss her.
>>98235720What makes you assume OP is well adjusted?
>>98237077>"she"
>>98237077You don't miss her: you feel like shit because you're punishing yourself with neglect. Treat yourself like you deserve to be treated, bro.
Yeah being fit and healthy isn't rocket science, corporations just shovel corn syrup in your face 24/7 so there's a health epidemic.Drink 3 liters of water a day. This will naturally reduce the amount of soda, alcohol, unhealthy energy drinks, and other sugar-laden drinks you intake, since you'll have a water in your hand. And water can be good, look into flavored seltzer, a lemon+lime seltzer water is like 90% of the pleasure of something like sprite, without the bad stuff.Have green veggies with every meal. Peas, greenbeans, broccoli, etc. If you don't like veggies, you can sneak them in places. Like adding spinach to an omelette or a smoothie, or making a mixed dish with peas, carrots, corn, and meat.Include lean protein like fish and poultry in your diet. Most meals should include a mix of protein and carbs, and lean proteins are better than heavy oily ones like pork. This is an area lots of people unknowingly sabotage themselves, because lots of ketchups and barbeque sauces and teriyaki and the like are actually just corn syrup water with flavoring. Don't add crap. Just have a nice piece of chicken with hot sauce or other low sugar option. You can get chicken breast for reasonable prices, although I will say that if you really want to be super good, the ones that don't have various preservatives and additives are better.Get about 8 hours of sleep a day, and try to make it uninterrupted. Your body needs like 30-40 minutes to fully enter REM sleep and that's what actually recharges your brain. This one is tough due to our busy lifestyles, but if you have to cut out something to get proper sleep, it's worth it. Every single other aspect of your life will improve and you'll notice. And if you have trouble getting a sleep schedule, get a proper eating schedule first. Your body wakes up for some hours after eating, so don't eat after like 11pm or so if you want to go to sleep by midnight or so.Also walk for like 10 mins a day, stretch as well.
>>98237345>If you don't like veggiesI think people who don't eat healthy and then switch go through an adjustment period of some weeks but I find myself craving vegetables and fuit. I instantly feel like shit if I just eat pies chips and icecream. I still eat those things like once a week lol, I could stand to cut down on sugar but that's it. Exercise also regulates your appetite eventually. Sometimes I think autists need to learn more about one pot meals.The water advice is very solid but I just add a slice of lemon. Amazing how your taste actually comes back when you stop beating yourself with sugar water
>>98237345Good advice anon but I would change it to say if you don't like veggies then grow the fuck up and stop being a pathetic manchild. This is a board where people are called sad manbabies for their choice of plastic model soldier so if you're literally refusing to eat carrots like a misbehaving 2 year old then you should get no sympathy
>>98237643This but for people who don't like DnD
>>98237345>Also walk for like 10 mins a day, stretch as well.This is considered exercise in America? WTF?
>>98236126We're all gonna make it.>be me>30th bday, look in the mirror. Acknolwedge I'm a fat fuck>decide to start doing something>Start going for a half hour walk after work every day>Start reducing all the sugary snacks I eat>Years pass, I start joining the gym, running, eating even healthier, focus on sleep etc>Be me now. Jacked and athletic. No one believes me when I say I'm a wargamer>Because of the discipline in fitness/diet, it's also lead to discipline in hobby so get all my shit painted easily
>>98237674I mean yeah, that’s what years of complete permissiveness if not outright encouragement of poor eating and e lifestyle does to a civilization. In a sane, happy healthy environment this wouldn’t even need to be discussed, but look around all the people you see next time you’re at the flgs or at a con. Ask what the common denominator seems to be and then cogitate as to why it is the way it is.
>>98237698This. The discipline thing is real. I’ve never met a fit wargamer who didn’t have all their shit painted, organized, and actually knew the rules of the game they were playing.Disgustoids on the other hand behave like they should be receiving praise and free stuff just for being at the game table.
>>98235063>58 posts with that image name That all you're able to do is post this image over and over again really highlights how much self loathing you have with >disgusto, burnt out, and maladjusted men ranging from their late teens to late 50sbut at least they get outside and play games.
>>98237831The only person who would obsess about that is the guy in the op pic related. You.So tell us, how did it get so bad for you? What’s going on with your life that you let yourself look like that and still went out in public? It’s bad enough that you’re fat and have a bad tattoo, but the dyed curly afro mushed up under a hat and the pube beard are just insane. Is the way you’re holding your fingers there something to do with autism or brain damage or what?
>>98237870>nou already pathetic post body
>>98235063One hour cardio bike or walking or running everyday minimum if you can sit and watch YouTube or read 4chan for an hour everyday you can do cardio for an hour everyday
>>98238182Just cardio is gay. You need to lift weights too
>>98238207If you are weak then yes this is true men should have some muscle and strengthen their body
>>98238216If you're strong you need to maintain it. That's how you stay strong
>>98238207>>98238506True true, but for the those who are really far gone down the path of slovenly gamer lifestyle they have to work their way up to that. Not physically even (they can curl 5lbs sure), just psychologically. Simply going for a brief walk is unobtrusive enough that it builds a healthy habit and mindset without making them think they are being deprived of their junk food or game-buying dopamine hits. Over time this will lead to other habits like eating less shit and eventually picking up some weights.But if you tell them to start with the weights and program a routine etc., they will conflate it for becoming an obnoxious gym bro whomst they think they are better than (in their minds, by not ever exercising they are demonstrating their superiority to gym goers).Gotta understand that the whole problem is largely psychological for these types of people.Anyways I play bolt action and sometimes mtg but I really can’t stand the direction it’s gone over the past five or so years
>>98235063>Look, mommy, i posted the pic again.
>>98239097Methinks anon doth see himself reflected in the op pic related Hope you can find the willpower and intellectual honesty to get healthy before all that damage becomes permanent
>>98235063I mean this in the nicest way possible so don’t be offended if that’s you or you look like that and the concept of self-care makes you highly defensive: he looks like he has shit his pants but doesn’t think it’s a problem
>>98236596I thought he was witty. And right.Most people already do self care, the fact that your nasty ass just now figured it out and you are stuck seeing it should be inspiring you to seek people and groups outta the basement, not sit there trying to preach to mASSes that wont give a fuck.But really you should just kill yourself.
>>98239161Hi samefag :) Not about to explain myself or who I am to anyone on gayass 4chan. Sorry that seeing a picture of a gross manchild and having it suggested that these types should invest in self-care absolutely triggers you and makes you feel called out. I wonder why that could be…
>>98239177Right. 4chan is one person.Happy fathers day btw, not that you'll be saying that, fucking nigger.
>>98239189>samefag: yes >dude in op pic: yes>triggered: yes All you have to do today is go for a 20min walk. You can even listen to music the whole time if you’d like
>>98239199Ive been in like 4 other threads between when I called you a nigger and came back to see your monkey black ass being a coon still. How bout you go outside, touch grass, climb a tree and then hang yourself instead of sitting here fuming at your keyboard desperately waiting to defend your "honor" in fucking 4chan of all places.Later babe, have fun sitting here pretending everyones out to get you.
Today I will try to jack it only twice instead of thrice
>>98235063post arm
Today I will save a slice of pizza for tomorrow
>>98237216I appreciate the attempt but, nah, I'm pretty sure I miss her. I miss having her underneath me, I miss texting back and forth throughout the day, I miss the way she used to look at me with absolute adoration in her eyes, I miss racing our bikes down the highway and spending each weekend exploring somewhere new together.>>98237209>Dating trannies
Today I will decline a game with frenemies who just want to see me fail. Gonna work on some terrain instead
>>98235063Is it mostly an American thing, or does it seem worse here? I see the Europoors all have nice game clubs where everyone contributes to the terrain collection, donates minis, helps clean the game area, dress nicely, put on events and campaigns...literally I have never seen anything remotely like that here in the states. Am I wearing rose tinted glasses or is this true to some extent? And it's not just the lack of those things- they constantly chase the next retail dopamine hit. Always the new edition, always the next codex, always power-gaming and WAAC-fagging and purchasing five boxes of the same unit every other game night.
>>98239554It is absolutely an American thing. I’m a burger who’s visited a few game stores in Britain and Canada and I can tell you with certainty that American stores and clubs are the way the way are due to our ingrained sense of individualism, low accountability, and a certain entitlement we have towards companies of any kind to serve us. We’ve also got the whole “newer is better” mindset coupled with instant gratification. It’s the logical conclusion of living in the land of plenty and - to our credit - innovation. A lot of innovation is geared towards convenience though, and generally sloughing responsibility for maintenance of anything onto others (see companies). Wouldn’t want to live any where else but goddamn flgs motherfuckers here make me sick sometimes
>>98239554>Always the new edition, always the next codex, always power-gaming and WAAC-fagging and purchasing five boxes of the same unit every other game night.All of that behavior is directly resultant to poor self-care, low self-esteem, misplaced urge for competition, and - if I’m not venturing too far a guess - fatherlessness. They either grew up with single moms or their dads were weak, fat, debauched sluggards
>>98236126Congrats
>>98239920Don't forget you wish your Dads a happy fathers day.
Fuck it, today I will throw away my pile of shame.
>>98239980My father and my father-in-law, yes. Thank you for the reminder.
>>98239991It was meant a reminder for anyone lurking in the thread and I used your post as a good excuse to post it but sure.
>>98240020Today I will go outside, build a fire by hand, and throw all my blue cards into it
>>98237870>pathetic piece of shit>instead of dealing with or owning it, starts preaching to othersDespicable levels of copium on display
>>98235068Do you have any tips that aren't taught to people by the time they're 4?
>>98240505These people need to hear them because they weren’t raised well
>>98240317It’s funny to look at him. Let yourself enjoy that, you wokeass prude
>>98239491You don't deserve to have your time wasted on navel gazing, bro. Go ride that bike.
>>98240891Never said it wasn't, my good faggot.
>>98241143You’re acting like it, Eisenstein
>>98235063>>98235068The most disgusting people in the world are moralizing busybodies that try to tell other people what to do. >inb4I don't care about your arguments. I am a well-adjusted person, and as a well-adjusted person I don't need anyone else to tell me what to do, nor do I think they should tell anyone else what to do.
>>98235063You couldn't have picked a more effective venue for this to fall on deaf ears. This is lost cause central, "you must be This much human detritus to board the ride"
>>98241228>enters thread he says doesn’t concern him >proceeds to get mad>shits and pisses himself aboutSeems like you should be here, retard
>>98236126Well done anon, keep at it!
>>98241228>I am a well-adjusted personlol sure buddy
>>98241228Deeply, deeply ironic post. Might be worth sobering up and giving the thread a casual read, Anon
>>98235063I have a really hard time taking care of myself but hobbies have nothing to do with it, it's a double whammy of ADHD and Depression
>>98240714This. It's common sense but people are so fucking laxyy
>>98242297I’ve got adhd and depression too that affects my drive to miniature paint.Anybody with these same stuff pulled through? How did you do it?
>>98240938Yeah, I guess. Thanks bro.It's hard to stop moping though.I don't know whether to try to get back with her or pursue this other girl I've been messaging who sounds incredible but, honestly, just too good to be true.
>>98235063>>98235068>Hang out with the people you game with outside of the game table sometime. Go to a restaurant after a game, watch a movie together, go to a con as a group, suck each other’s succulent cocks, etc. >Take photos of your games and projects so you can actually look back and feel content with your accomplishments and good memories once in a while instead of being strung along with fomo by corporations who don’t care about you and just want to push you forward to the next big consumer purchase Other than these two, do you genuinely think these people don't know all that? These guys don't care. That level of investment pretty much encourages obsessive and anti-social personalities, which tends to also lead to bad self-care. They know what they need to do, probably better than you do, they just don't like the discomfort or think they're above it in some way. You know, in the "every developed muscle is a book you didn't read" sense, as if you can't develop a beach body in two 1 hour sessions and you wouldn't have spent those two hours just jacking off.
>>98242713Don't try to get back with her, in my humble opinion. It's time to move on rather than dwell in the past and focus on a future that could've been but never will.You wanted that hypothetical future but it's gone and you're allowed to grieve that loss, but that particular door is closed. And it sounds like you have another option lined up so carefully explore that one.
>>98239753>due to our ingrained sense of individualismMy country has the same thing.Our game clubs and store used to have proper terrain, but since 40k started to use the present terrain for events, the proper terrain vanished over night.I know because even when I tried to run events with old school terrain the local players start having anxiety attacks.
>>98235063I almost always try to see the best in people and give them the benefit of the doubt, but some of the people I've met through traditional games realllyyyy stretch my pretty immense patience. Though I've only had my patience broken exactly once, and I got over it within a few seconds.
>>98237077I've had it easier. The crazy bastard stab me while I was sleeping.
>>98244107Anxiety attacks? I'm not a wargamer but what in the fuck is that about. Are they used to set maps like CS players or something?
>>98244281Modern 40k has fixed ways to place terrain. Here is an example from 10th.And I had one guy having a panic attack because I did not provide him with a fixed layout and left them to build the board one piece of terrain at the time.
>>98244381That guy is piss weak.
>>98244381that guy deserves to be btfo'd
>>98243171>do you genuinely think they don’t know all that They know it on a theoretical level only. They should be encouraged to know it on a practicing level for the good of all people
>>98244381Doing this makes it a solved game. Do they really pat themselves on the back for winning these type games? Definitely goes back to the fatherlessness
>>98246318thats kind of the point. they dont want thinking or variation. they want to rip a net list, play a premade map, and win.
>>98246541People who want victories handed to them that they can buy and pay for are not competitors. They are just consumers of product. You can always spot people who never played team sports growing up. Always. Makes me sad for them as kids, but after a certain age it becomes their responsibility to make up for that lost development. For most, that’s just too heavy a lift though
