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>if you could be reincarnated into any ork oddboy (mek, painboy, runtherd, weirdboy) what would you be?Reddit ass question, go the fuck back
I’ve never played a single game of 40 KIs 11th a decent addition to start with as far as like rule, density, and stuff like that?I know it’s a complex game and I know that some purists say that fourth edition is like goated for whatever reason but obviously I’d prefer to learn the currently active edition if its not bullshit hardReposting cuz new thread
>>98237795SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>98237788Probably a Mekboy, they seem to get up to the most interesting stuff.
>>98237804it's alrightyou can learn easily via TableTop Simulator or just going to an LGS- most LGS will lend you the dudes for a small points game to try out
I like orks :D
>>98237788>TQBig Mek so I could manufacture KFF generators.
>>98237788>if you could be reincarnated into any ork oddboy (mek, painboy, runtherd, weirdboy) what would you be?
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98237788>TQPain.
>if you could be reincarnated into any ork oddboy (mek, painboy, runtherd, weirdboy) what would you be?Well, probably a mek.
>>98237788
It's an edition late, but I finally painted up my Ballistus Dreadnought.What have you working on anons?
>>98238021Nice paint job, but these are ugly as fuckgood think they are easily improved
>>98237788>if you could be reincarnated into any ork oddboy (mek, painboy, runtherd, weirdboy) what would you be?A big mek, one that can start the kult of speed in any damn clan, even Snakebites because all it takes is strapping enough squigs before Santa Klawz'ing one of those gits in the sky to turn them into some true speed freekz.It would be a cozy life, meks get the easier jobs just sitting around in their workshop building some snazzy bullshit, i'd like to be a Big Mek.
I did some 40k bootcamp thing and had fun, sorta confusing with weapon rolls and cover/Line of sight shit but overall I had a lot of fun.I'm building an imperial guard army, but I'm wondering what detachment I should use/what should I get?So far here are my models:>Ursula Creed>Yarrick>Cadian Castellan>Commisar>Cadian Command Squad>Cadian shock troops>Kasrkins>Leeman russ tank>valkeryie>sentinelIs there a guide or something that goes over shit you may want to use? I don't care about being a super metafag or whatever but I just want to make sure I have the basics
I built the Warboss out of the box and I have to say Orks are definitely cooler in person than as photos online. It’s made me do a bit of a 180 on their place in lore too. Like yeah a Xenos species isn’t going to adhere to the grim dark tone of the Imperium lmao.
>>98238021These are finished except for some highlights on the steel and black.Chosen look so much better with basic CSM heads
>>98237788>half the Ork side is characters>you can't even field all of the characters because you need to attach supports to units (at least according to the app) and there is only two squads of troopsAm I the only one who thinks this box feels really anemic especially for its price
>>98238101Also im making First Claw. Cyrion, Xarl, Uzas, Mercutian, Variel.
>love my guard, SoB, and agents>already have like 6 thousand points of imperial stuff >constantly tempted to join the ranks of marine players because they just have more rules more options more units more models more support more detachments faster updates etc>even made a few lists of slamanders and imperial fists that I know I would enjoy>now is a good time since there's a marine starter box that people are selling half of constantly It's so tempting...
>>98238107There’s 3 Leaders and 2 Support on the Ork side, unless the app doesn’t have the Weirdboy as a Leader for some reason.
Was it worth the wait?
>>98238039It’s the start of the edition, so you can probably get away with doing what you want until the “meta” settles in. As far as detachments go, just pick the models that you like and look at what detachments buff them. Don’t overthink it.
>>98238021Been too busy to work on anything right now sadly. I bought a new gosling a couple weeks ago because my current two geese have never been able to clutch any eggs for years and I need a younger one to protect my other birds as these ones get older. Anyway, I wake up today, go outside, and lo and behold, the fuckers actually hatched a gosling, so now I have two baby geese to take care of alongside the rest of my birds.Here's a chaos lord that's been sitting on my paint desk waiting for a coat of primer. I'll probably get around to priming him when I get home from work in the morning, and if I'm lucky I can see about banging him out in time for the collage.
okay i have a problem. i have the old forgeworld hive tyrant. i love the model to death, but his base is a bit of an issue. he's got this weird, oblong resin cast base thats incorporated into the model, its a completely nonstandard size and shape, and also when trying to mount it on the normal GW approved hive tyrant base size it actually hangs off the edgesdo i mount him to a bigger base than what a hive tyrant normally gets? or just use his forgeworld base as is? either way would be an illegal base size as far as i know, but i dont want to go cutting the resin sculpted base to fit. (pic is not mine but it is the version of the model im working with, minus the wings since i lost them decades ago)
>>98237804New editions are just really not worth it, they're lacking all the things that made 40k enticing in the first place.
Arrange these in order of how much Necrons hate/are contemptuous of them:>Eldar>Dark Eldar>Orks>Humans>Tau
>>98238217You just use the base as is, it doesn't fucking matter.
>>98237804i dont think the rules themselves are any more dense than any other edition, probably less so actually.where 40k starts to get confusing are all the various card decks you need for scoring and missions which change every year, the FAQ digital addendums to your core rules and army rules that can end up being bigger than both. last edition had nearly a 100 page errata document, and the general fast pace of seasonal changes. but you dont need to worry about all of that for like your very first intro games and stuff.if you have literally never touched a game of 40k, people do put out very beginner focused introduction videos that walk you through the basics of how to play the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7f04a_MUk
How to fix each faction:>Chaos: Cut all of CSM, just make the Warp a crazy magic dimension that drives you insane shits out wacky daemons sometimes. Maybe keep Thousand Sons. Make the setting more about religious humans fighting asshole aliens>Chaos Daemons: Make them less reliant on epic hero units instead of normal armies>Chaos Knights: Cut, make them allied units for other Chaos armies>Guard: Just replace super old models (Catachan) and add more 'alternate' Guard regiments besides Catachans>Space Marines: No changes>Sisters: Add more obvious faith magic things besides Celestine, like obviously magic powers or more lesser angels>Admech: No changes>Grey Knights: Revamp the models to be the right scale, otherwise no changes>Custodes: Cut, it should just be a lore thing>Knights: Cut, make them allied units for other Imperial armies>Eldar: Redo the really old units>Dark Eldar: Redo the models, they're all old by now>Necrons: No changes>Votann: Emphasize the rune magic and 'repurposed mining equipment' parts>Tau: Just cut the Kroot and Vespid, you clearly want this army to be about gundam mech suits>Tyranids: I dunno, add a second hive mind that branches off somehow and now there are two rival Tyranid groups that hate each other, and the second one evolves somehow>GSC: Add some more revolutionary units of types other than communists, maybe wacky arachists, etc
>>98237804also, on replaying old editions, its a double edge sword. some older editions can be fun if you prefer their playstyle, and they dont have constantly changing faqs and new seasonal content to keep up with, but at the same time they are no longer actively developed so nothing broken ever gets fixed except by community houserule, it can be much more difficult to find a game since 98% of people will just prefer to play what is current, and probably the biggest hurdle is that many armies and units just dont have rules for those older editions or are missing units, so depending on your collection you actually just wont be able to play before a certain point chronologically.
>>98238217Unless you’re a hardcore tournament player you could probably just use the base as is. Only dudes that’d take issue with fighting a cool model like that cause of the base are probably the dudes you don’t wanna play with in the first place.
i am one third of a model into the armageddon box and i am already sick of pushfit models
>>98238237i just clipped off all the pegs with my nippers and glued them and they went together seamlessly.the push fit pegs are a trap. if you really want to use them though, use your hobby knife and shave off the end of each peg until it is sharpened like a pencil, and that will help prevent the pegs from getting stuck partway through and leaving gaps
>>98237788>if you could be reincarnated into any ork oddboy (mek, painboy, runtherd, weirdboy) what would you be?Give Chaos Xenos
>>98238217Current Tyrant is on a 60mm. That base looks irregular, just put him on an 80mm (Biovore) just so hes on a round.
>>98238039it's hard to go wrong with grizzled vets as a detachment. Once you know the game better you can decided if you want to try a different detachment,You probably wont use all your HQ's in the same list.You probably want more vehicles next if you only have 1 tank
Removing the arcing energy improves it significantly.
>>98238293this guy looks like he's hell to assemble without breaking or having huge gaps
>>98238229You're retarded
>>98238237Cut those pegs off. They're genuinely a hindrance.
>>98238310hes not at all. the whole guy is like 4 pieces and the sprue nubs are all very slim and easy to trim. all the characters in the box have pretty much zero mould lines tooits really well made, i got all 5 characters cleaned and assembled in like 20 minutes
So there is never more than 2 Central, Expansion and Home objectives each? Is there any layout that goes 7+ objectives?
>>98238021>>98238026I actually like it, wonder how hard it would be to convert
>>98238428I like Aliens, it's a good movie
another update on the thunderhawk for my inquisition guys
>>98238434The thumbnail looks like a gun with a blade for a barrel.
>>98238229Give Bolt Revolver
>>98238447Ok
>>98238447
>>98238026I like redemptors but that conversion kit looks very cool.
>Do batch painting of gray rocks and pale skulls and details I didn't catch>Takes 20 mins total>Time to put silver on the legs, spikes, weapons, chains, and other parts>Takes me over an hour>Now all I got is to do gold on other parts, Nuln Oil, paint eyes, putting the dirt base down, coloring the rim of the base black, and fix details I missedI WANT A BREAK
guardfag having a meltdown about having 75 point battleline has genuinely gotta be the most autistic shit I've witnessed
Chaos Bros, is it better to put your Chaos lord on a 5 man Legionaire Squad or a 5 man Chosen squad?
>>98238229>>Admech: No changesthey need a cult mech support wave so the army isn't oops all skitariiand in-codex knight datasheets so they dont have to deal with sloppy soup rules that dont work or don't exists half the time
I want to fill out my Warhammer Meme folder, post your best reaction images and memesz
>>98238498Only the best Chaos have 4 Greater Daemons. I prefer Chosen for thematic reasons for having the better bodyguard squad. The Chaos Lord deserves the best groupies.
>>98238219you already posted it>EldarNecrons are assmad about the War in Heaven, so obviously they hate Eldar. But they definitely do the whole "the enemy is both strong and weak" thing.>Dark EldarSame as above.>OrksSimilar story as Eldar, being another race created by the Old Ones to fight the necron. They are more retarded and devolved, and less a match for the necrons though, so they'd care less about Orks.>HumansJust some pests that infested the galaxy. Also the product of the Old Ones, but not meant to fight the Necron. >Tau irrelevant literal who
Do you think we'll ever get space skaven?
>>98238447Wish granted
>>98238508I just realized that neither Archaon nor Abaddon's posse have much in greater daemons given their preference for mortals.
>>98238447Would a typical revolver grenade launcher be about bolt revolver sized if you gave it a marine sized grip for bigger hands? How big are squat hands anyway compared to normal sized humans?
Can someone point me were to look up the new detachment rules, i'm on the warhammer app and it seems like i can just add a detachment so long as i have points but don't need to actually use any of the rules besides the mission choices?
>>98238505
>>98238516probably. people like to meme that "we dont need skaven we already have GSC" but GSC are nothing like skaven except that the two are both hordey ambush armies, and even in that regard GSC are hardly alone in 40k as it is with things like kroot, vanguard tyranids, and orks running aroundand as far as lore and aesthetics go, skaven are almost the complete opposite of GSC. GSC operate on blind trust, teamwork and cooperation. skaven are thematically backstabbing, conniving duplicitous fucks that get off on fucking each other over as much as the enemy. actually the closest 40k analogue to skaven are probably human hive worlds and their corrupt rulers and merchants lording over untold millions of dregs living in squallor
>>98238565The Imperium is the closest thing to Skaven with all the augmented super soldiers, lack of regard for life, constant infighting, some council who bickers 24/7, etc. The only way it can get more Skaven is if it became the Interm Coalition of Governance but that would require an autistic desire to sex xenos.
>tfw Total War's Cathay is more Imperium than EmpireStrange feeling.
>>98238530Neopup is more bolter, but not really revolver, even if the magazine is not that far off
>>98238572>lack of regard for life, constant infighting, some council who bickers 24/7That's also the empire.
>>9823780440k hasn't been complex for 10 years.It's just an expensive board game these days.
10K sons weapon
>>98238516noGW are autistic about factions being distinct even across systems and theres no way to make 40k skaven without them being just skaven or changing them so much they lose the appeal of skavenits why votaan are so fucking dull
>>98238575So would that mean Meow is a female Primarch equivalent?
Played my first 11th edition game, DA vs DG. Completely fucked up my deployment so my heavy fire PM unit could never make a shot and I got bodied in melee but overall it was fun. Terrain feels much more useful for sure
>>98238588Appealing to destinyfags rarely works when it's flavorful. They need enough dullness that they won't reject it.
>>98238516no
>>98238585I am once again asking for melee rubrics.- Dual sword unit - Staff/halberd for a bodyguard/vet unit
>>98238589yes, the dragon children are characterised like primarchs
>>98238589Given they're all functionally demigods who nearly had a giant civil war, daddy's off on some plan he can't tell anyone, they have their own giant spy system which everyone's scared of, they're honestly slightly better than the Imperium. Still shit almost if to say an Imperium that never had a Horus Heresy would still suck to live in.
>>98237804They've become better at writing rules in a way that makes sense (language, organisation) over the years. Not perfect but better. The turn order and basic actions aren't complex at all, just a few mechanics and inevitable edge-case interactions. Plus remembering what all your guys do.The core problems with the game honestly haven't changed over its lifetime, so retreating to earlier editions (which a tiny fraction of players actually do, rather than just saying it) doesn't fix shit. Every edition had its jank and unnecessary complexity. Insanely broken units/strategies are far less common now.
I am now sad that we will never get a schizophreniac Inquisitor that acts like Azula.
>>98238597Primarchs you can fug since they had to get all those dragon-blooded shugengan somehow.
>>98238606And the new lore that implies that Sigmar tapped that.And re-contextualizes his disappearance.
>>98238237How are the mould lines?
>>98238613Deadbeat Dadmar!
>>98238613>new loreI'm afraid to ask but qrd?
>>98238625Coomer meme mostly but they do meet and it seems to be a positive exchange
>>98238625It's really nothing.In the old lore, Sigmar unites the human tribes, rules for a while as Emperor, then fucks off to the east, dropping Ghal Maraz off with the Dorfs before he disappears.The new lore is still exactly the same, but includes a bit where Cathay sends Miao as an emissary to check out this new emperor who is uniting the humans way off in the West. All that's included is that Miao expected him to be a filthy barbarian and finds him to be intelligent and well-spoken. Coomers take this to imply "THEY FUGGED!" because they can't comprehend men or women having a high opinion about the opposite gender without it being sexual.And it is mostly just a meme that Sigmar heading East was him heading to Cathay to go get that dragon pussy again.
>>98238498Probably depends on how you're kitting the legionaries out and what detachment you're in. Between all the melee options legionaries have now they can probably outperform chosen in combat, but you lose out big on the mobility and extra wounds chosen have. Personally I keep a lord with chosen just for the advance/fall back and charge, and run 10 man legionaries bricks with a dark apostle for the +1 to wound in my renegade raiders list.
>>98238600i dislike a lot about 4e age of sigmar, but the work they did on that edition edifying everything in the game into nice clean concise ability blocks with clearly defined timing and order of operations has laid the groundwork for a much cleaner design going forward an 11th seems to be drawing on that.
>>98238598
>>98238642AoS is forever a testbed for future 40k changes.
>>98238629>>98238637That's it? Disappointed.But not surprised.
>>98238659Counterpoint; 40k is becoming AoS.
>>98238664Does this mean we are getting more attention for non-Marine armies?
>>98238667No. Marines only!
>>98238667Every edition, non-marine armies get lots of attention, you whiny eldarfag
>>98238664Countercounterpoint: both AoS and 40k are made to be the same
>>98238667of course not, don't be silly, the pigs must pay
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98238516space skaven originated when some haemonculi made some archons pet rat really smart, it then escaped and mated with other rats creating a race of super ratsthey had a little spat in comorragh, the population was dealt with, some archon looked at one and thought 'cool pet', it escaped again, rinse and repeat
>>98238681+1 year to the wait
>>98238683Gay and lame, there are only three correct origins for skaven in 40k:>they are rats that mutated in the underhives due to radiations, toxic wastes and other foul refuses>they arrived here from fantasy after tunneling through space and time by accident and getting stranded>the lost votann supercomputer that fell below necromunda broke and began pumping out rat-like abhumanseither way, if they don't come from necromunda I don't want to hear it
>>98238667>9th edition: massive necron refresh and expansion>10th edition: massive tyranid refresh and expansion. also huge eldar refresh and expansion>11th edition: massive ork refresh and expansionbeen the case for the better part of a decade now
>>98238683>skaven are another deldar sub-faction taking up a support wave from the real faction and are immediately abandoned like the rest of the army
>>98238597Just ten times more interesting and without daddy issues.
>>98238715oh and i forgot the tau also got a huge wave via the kroot expansion too plus some new battlesuits like farsight and the twinsxenos really havent been as neglected as people make them out to be
>>98238715failed to point out marines get the equal attention massive new range every time someone else gets a refresh for their 25 year old kits
So stealth is completely rubbish now? All the lictor variants shouldve dropped in points given they have that and fights first which is shithouse now too
>>98238718But some still have daddy issues, it's just not the core of their lives. Also the sea dragon is a complete failure and laughing stock who thinks the Elves named their ships after her. She's seen among the fanbase as a joke.
>>98238722marines are the money printer that keeps the game running. if i need to suffer a marine kit here and there to get shit like the new xenos models they've been putting out so be it
>>98238725Erm actually autoguns use caseless ammunition because they just... they just have to, ok???
>>98238710Necromunda already has giant wasteland rats
>>98238718They still have plenty of daddy issues already
>>98238732Yeha, it's become a meme to compare Yin-Yin to Aqua from Konosuba. Including some fanart. I can't find a good image of Aqua Yin-Yin. Just some Kazuma as Yuan Bo yelling at her for being so useless.
>>98238717The gonna get Kroot'd
>>98238736Not enough, they can have more.
>>98238736
>>98238719this, there have been tons of new xeno minis since 8th, including unique stuff in side games like KT and BSF (a Zoat!)>>98238722and here we find the real "issue": Seething eldarfag envy at not being the center of attention of daddy GW. It's not enough that they get new minis, they NEED for marines to get less to not feel wounded in their ego
>>98238741Vampires?
>>98238749Blood Angels are the only vampires in 40k and they do sometimes become maddened monsters requiring a putdown.Must be extra vulnerable to bloodborne pathogens.
>>98238757Lame, I thought we actually had xeno space vampires at some point.
>>98238749No>>98238757this
>>98238734please dont get on your knees and suck off marines for giving you a refresh about only a meagre 4 editions with no new kits
>>98238745>lumping all xenos together >thinking that one-off stuff is enough >whines bloody murder when the point is made too clear for him to ignore: regardless of the amount of support xenos get, marines get disproportionately moreimagine if grey knights as a faction was erased completely and someone told you you shouldn't ask for grey knights because the deathwatch received a token model in a side game already
From those who missed it.The summed-up lore from the Comba Patrol companion book:https://pastebin.com/Ehf1r9Dv
>>98238749Yes>>98238757No
>>98238774>lifeforce drained by prolonged contactThat's not vampires. Those are succubi
>>98238766>lumping all marines together >pretends that GK or DW have not been negledted>thinking that a big xeno faction refresh and minor ones each edition is not enough>dismisses one-offs because he's a dirty tourneyfag and it's not in for the love of the setting and the minis>whines bloody murder when the point is made too clear for him to ignore: regardless of the amount of support marines get, xenos still get plenty that's a lot of clues about you being an eldarfag, the most entitled and whiny 40k players by a mile
>>98238575You reminded me that I've been meaning to get the Miao Yang model to make a model for/of my gf.
>>98238776Nigga it's right there nigga they vampires it's in they name
>Among the mentioned warzones is the Maiden World of Syph that resounds with bestial calls of the huntBros, is that what I think it is?
>>98238781Misnomer. C'tan are called Star Vampires, too.
>>98238778You used "no u" wrong, are making the wrong assumptions as I'm neither an eldarfag or a tourneyfag or someone who didn't grab a pair of zoats, and are still missing the point completely.Let me make a guess this time, you spend hours a day arguing about primaris.
>>98238783>tigers are a misnomer because tiger mosquitoes exist!that's how dumb you sound
>>98238795Nah. Vampires suck blood. Those don't.
>>98238763>no new kitswat
>>98238797>Those don'tProve it
>>98238791your "point" is just nonsensical whining about space marine releases being more common than xeno releases, despite the later being well supported in the game (arguably better in some cases)Why do you fixate on hating marines so much?We all know why, knife ears.
>>98238776>>lifeforce drained by prolonged contact
>>98238804>your "point" is just nonsensical whining about space marine releases being more common than xeno releaseshow is it a nonsensical point when it's objectively the truth that marines get a disproportionate amount of releases?can you point to any faction that gets as many releases as marines?
Reminder that Votann need trainshttps://youtu.be/uf-LZJDkqkU
>>98238810I think you need to stop spamming your shit for years on end.
>>98238810There are trains in destiny?
>>98238808It's nonsense because marine releases have no effect on xeno releases.And most marine releases are filler, anyway, like the new Armageddon box.You're just butthurt becaue you want to be the center of attention of GW, rather than focusing on if xenos have what they need and enought variety. It's pathetic
>>98238780I hope you get testicular cancer and can no longer get hard you filthy sex haver.
>>98238801Must be a salty ork player that they didn't get anything new and just old stuff redone, but even that's not true because they got the Dakka Walker mech
Are titans the biggest meme in the entire 40k setting >Take years to build one >gets destroyed left and right in their own stories>canonically jobs to a handful of space marines >should job to bombers but doesn't because void shield plot armor>done bigger and better in other settings >dude they're so heckin epic le cathedral on legs knights are cool tho
>>98238818Ork players are happy. You know who's never happy with releases, do you?
>>98238745aw nah what is this wannabe klegg
>>98238817Is this you?
>>98238815>because marine releases have no effect on xeno releases.this isn't some magical world where gw could double their output without giving or taking from somewhere else, marines absolutely eat up slots in the release schedule, production time, and designers' attentions, you must be delusional or mad to think otherwise>They're fillerI'm sure those spaces can be filled with something other than marines, remind me why calgar needed another model again?>You're just butthurt becaue you want to be the center of attention of GW, rather than focusing on if xenos have what they need and enought varietyyou keep making the wrong assumptions, and xenos do lack variety, out of the 7 alien factions 2 are elves, one is orks, one is human-like skeletons, and 2 are human workers with deformities
>>98238834You're the one being delusional.Marines sell more so they get more releases. Releasing more xenos will NOT make them sell more than marines, as has been proven again and again. That's why the bland SM side in Armageddon is selling for more than the great Ork refresh in second hand markets.>and xenos do lack variety, out of the 7 alien factionsIt's hilarious that you pretend to care for completely new xeno factions. You're not fooling anyone with this angle
>>98238801now post all the kits nids got in 8th and 9th
>>98238820No, power scaling faggots like you are the real meme.
>>98238829Fuck you, do you think your better than me just because you empoer slaanesh with sex
>>98238820I think they're cool. As far as I can tell there's really no other tabletop game that has or justifies such stupidly large models.
>>98238847No anon, I am the embodiment of sex itself.
does /40kg/ play on TTS?
>>98238842>literally the only editions without big nid releases in all 40k history>forgetting the shit ton of GSC released in 8thI don't believe you're a real nid player, you reek of knife ears
>>98238844how am I a powerscaler for pointing out such an giant disparity between the game's lore in the codexes and the comics. It's not like I'm autistically comparing the primarchs or whatever, it's just silly when a machine designed to destroy cities gets taken out by a few guys.
>>98238840So now you suddenly concede the point that marines get disproportionate support, while entrenching yourself in the denial that the disproportionate support has nothing to with their popularity, despite the fact that tyranids attracted more purchases than marines last edition, that marines still have disproportionate support compared to orks, and that the oh so iconic marinelets straight up stopped selling the moment they stopped being front and center?and why are you now refusing the focus on whether xenos have what they need and enough variety? it's almost as if you're hypocritical and jump from one weak stance to another in desperation.
>>98238887NTA but I wouldn't point to any GW marketing ploys as proof of anything
>look at hazardous rules>you can take off any model when you fail the check, not the model with the hazardous weapon>this of course, is stupid>say it's stupid, hazardous should be calculated per model, I don't care if multiple models in a squad take 1 wound each>"but anon, we don't need the game to be more complicated than it already is" I get told by an LGS retardWE FIXED THIS SHIT 30 FUCKING YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NO REASON TO REWORK THE RULE AND MAKE IT ABUSABLE
>>98238802Life forceNo mention of blood
>>98238860>it doesn't matter that you go no models because a different army you don't play did
there is no marine bias and they sell the most for no reason at all...
>>98238428Most unsettling part of Duke Nukem.
>>98238900Everything about the new hazardous rules is dumb and reeks of changes being made just for the sake of change
>>98238887>marines get disproportionate supportWrong. It's proportionate to their sales and popularity.>marinelets straight up stopped selling the moment they stopped being front and center?Wrong. They were replaced by primaris units, and now primaris get old marine features all the time to make them sell more, like in Armaggedon.> refusing the focus on whether xenos have what they need and enough variety?Wrong, that's what YOU are refusing to do. Instead you only whine about marines> it's almost as if you're hypocritical and jump from one weak stance to another in desperationWrong. That's you projecting because you're caugh in your own nonsense and seething envy while trying to find a way out.You're not fooling anyone, eldarfag.
>>98238492fire warriors are cheaper.
>>98238213Nice AoS model!
>>98238910Why does GW hate Tau and Sisters so much?
>>98238505lurk moar faggothere's one to make the zoomer waacfags fucks seeth
>>98238428Ngl quite hot until the stretched bellies part.
>>98238021Getting started on Armageddon
Your faction DOES have a way to kill Belakor turn 1 before he starts shitting out greater daemons at you 6" away from you right? Alternatively one-round the incoming rotigus/skarbrand so they don't get uppy downy while the lesser ones are spamming actions and stickyfying the objectives right?
>>98238869You're a power scaler because you're comparing the heroics that are exceptional enough to be the subject of a comic to your bias over what you think is the game's lore and other tertiary memes or other settings' stuff.
>>98238900okay boomer
>>98238922Oh look, it's the fake necron avatarfag again, how unsurprising.
>>98238922>It's proportionate to their sales and popularity.wrong assumption >They were replaced by primaris unitsfor a long while they coexisted, they simply didn't sell the moment slightly taller inferior stuff got pushed forward, proving marines only sell when they're disproportionately supported >and now primaris get old marine features all the time to make them sell moreyou just said the marines from the box are bland, hypocrite>that's what YOU are refusing to doyou keep using "no u" wrong, and other stuff can't get the support they need until marines stop hogging the disproportionate support>eldarfagand you keep being delusional
>>98238447And bullpup it
>>98238900>Be Space Marine>My plasma gun explodes>Brother Bigasfael's arm falls off because he was the one guy in the squad not in coverPretty retarded and exploitable.
>>98238937Does he die to turn 1 deep striking 15man Scions? if so, yes.
So wait, I can’t have a model flank around and shoot at an enemy unit if they’re engaged in infantry melee with some of my infantry? That sucks
>>98238954Just thinking about this causes me physical pain.
Is the baneblade worth the point cost if I’m low on vehicles? Or is it kinda a meme?
I tried to do eyes. I fucked up a bunch, and the eye slit on the right looks way too thin.
>>98238959the position of the models is an abstraction, in a melee the fighters wouldn't stick to coherent separate lines but blend in a mess. not something another unit can easily target.
>>98238774Dark eldar should get a unit of them.
>>98238900its great as a gsc player as my benefictus wont explode like it does in every single fucking game but i agree its silly, also the emergency disembark is now a hazardous test so that can fail on a 1-2, also the disembarked unit can now take mortals from the vehicle exploding which makes transports way shitter than before
>>98238960Why stop at bullpuped bolters?
>>98238974Ah, I can see how that works
>friend is starting a space wolves army>tfw no space wolves players at my lgs>tfw none at his lgsare they unpopular atm? i thought marines of all varieties were popular. granted this is two (fairly large) lgs so small sample size
>>98238970Is this the gay version of gscb?
>turn 1 deep strikedo not like, particularly as its easier to deep strike shit and harder to screen now
>>98238989They also removed scatter after deep strike so a lot of strategies seem to be just “lmao bumrush”
>>98238986>gscb>Girl Scouts of Chesapeake Bay
>>98238970Eyes on infantry are a meme. Just use shading on the eye slits and move on
>>98238990there probably should be some sort of hazardous test for it if they plan on never bringing back scatter, i mean do we expect a squad of stormboyz to land exactly where planned?
>>98238991It's been a while so I maybe have mixed up her acronym she went by genestealer cult breeder of something.
>find out that pro acryl now do something thats similar to speedpaints>tfw 17 AUD for one paint
>>98238992>t.
>>98239002Yeah that looks good
>>98238992thats ok anon i cant paint eyes as well
>>98239001>AUD
>>98239008I never claimed I could paint eyes lol I’m shit enough at painting as is
>>98238980'luv me a good bullpup
>>98238975Dark Eldar are already Psychic Vampires. They don't need a different species of also psychic vampires.
>>98239016fuck ON marathonfag
>>98239009thats about 12 freedom dollars anon
>>98239016Samesies
What’s guard’s response to getting caught in melee?
Do the free rules somewhere contain stuff for the actual army-building
>>98239034>give affix bayonets order>watch your whole squad slap the enemy with wet noodles>get pimpslapped during the enemy’s fight phase
>>98239034Bullgryn Frontline or just shrugging and losing 75 points of guys to delay 300 points of the enemy for a turn?
>>98238957well can they deal with 20W T11 3+ benefiting from cover
>While you can stretch a single deck across multiple players, we recommend that each player has a deck for themselves for convenienceAm I missing something here? It looks like a single Campaign deck should be enough for up to 9 players unless I'm reading the rules booklet wrong. Should I really get an extra deck if I want to run a campaign for two people? That feels silly.
>>98239036Only in the app.Rules 25.00
>>98239034>we die
>>98238950>proving marines only sell when they're disproportionately supported Lmao, delusional. Even when CSM, SoB,xenos or IG get big refresh releases, they eventually slow down because sales do not support it. This is a basic fact of the game, period.GW has tried it several times and the market is just not there.In Kill Team, they sidelined marines on purpose only to finally have to concede out of player demand.You know what you are. Ork, tau, or necron players do not whine about marines all the time like you do.
>>98239034Hope your doods can bring down 1 enemy for the hidden morale buff, watch them all get wiped
>>98239051NTA but I can tell you are definitely not in the Tau discord
>>98237795Reddit is better than 4chan at Warhammer. Better understands the lore, has better painters, better rules autists, has more experienced players, etc.
>>98239057I was talking about /tg/, yes. And I know how obxonius taufags and nidfags can be, here and IRL.But that seething envy and entitlement against marines is a well documented eldarfag trait.They'll never say it, but they secretly wish to be the baddies in a big 40k edition release.
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>>98239063Who are the most and least obnoxious army groups? As a newfag guard player I’ve seen that ork and marine players are chill
>Enter war Game Store>There's Jazz/Noir music playing
>>98239067here? everyone is obnoxious depending on how you feel in the moment
>>98239066You should not have questioned why every Black Library release is full of gay black trannoids, chuddite!
>>98239051your "basic fact" is circular reasoning >you can see marines sell more by the fact they get disproportionate support and that disproportionate support can only be because they sell more!if marines sold so much people wouldn't have stopped buying firstborn the moment something slightly taller appeared
>>98238026The guy that makes this (Ikarus Pattern) got shoah'd by GW and took it off sale. Might still be selling them under the table if you contact him directly but I'm not sure.
>>98239067>mostEldar by a mile, then tau. Marinefag metachasers. Custodes. All waacfags. IG and Nids vary IRL. Knights are bullies.>leastOrks, necrons, etc. Non metafag marine players.
>>98239067Guardfags and marinefags are the worst regardless of where you look.
>>98239068I'd prefer that over the metal or video game music every LGS I've ever been to plays
>>98239067Most obnoxious is whoever is currently taking the bait. There's different things that trigger every fanbase into hundred post shit fling arguments and they always take the bait and always have the same arguments.
>>98239084even the guy taking the bait could be false flagging and not be the player of that faction.
>>98239067>marine players>chill I don’t know how it is at the average LGS and over at reddit, but at least for here lol no.
>>98239063>a well documented eldarfag traitYou've been accusing people of being eldarfags left and right, you have no awareness of who belongs to what group or what traits a group has, you're schizophrenic.
>>98239088>>98239063I would also like to see this documentation he is referring to
>>98239079You and the decalfag are singlehandedly ruining the reputation of necronfags on /tg/, and that's even beyond the ctan waacfaggotry they went through.
Why did the emperor not have the knowledge to re-create STDs? He was a master of science after all
>>98239099If he's a master of science and had a captive CTan shard on Mars, why didn't he create inertialess drives kike the Necrons have and completely remove human reliance on the warp?
>>98239099He didn't need to recreate all the STDs, he was already carrying them due to thousands of years of pederasty, it's why he couldn't have normal children, all the women he laid with died due the dozens of infections.
>>98239099>He was a master of sciencenot as much as you think
>>98239076No, That's you being a retard doubling down on a false premise. GW not focusing in marines has never made xenos or ig or whatever sell more than marines.The demand for marines is bigger than for any other faction, period.That's why they even got their own game with the HH.You're just in denial, and seething with envy.A rational xeno player would not fixate so much in marine releases.
>>98239099actually Black Library already established he had a cabal of scienists who did most of the work for me. Yes they were mostly gay black women.
>>98237788Little people
HE WAS A MASTER OF SCIENCE
>>98239124>space wolves sent to a junglewho’s bright idea was that?
GW has opened the pandora's box with this. People are going to start demanding pre-painted minis soon
>>98238229everyone who replies is going to call this bad because that's how the internet and particularly 4chan works but you're absolutely right about most of thisif they keep importing shit from the lore as armies and going wide instead of tall with army design, the game and eventually the lore are going to become a chaotic, impenetrable mess
>>98239120>GW not focusing in marines has never made xenos or ig or whatever sell more than marines.name one edition where gw hasn't focused on marines>The demand for marines is bigger than for any other factionthen why did marinelets stop selling the moment they stopped being at the forefront?>That's why they even got their own game with the HHrandom underhive gangers also have their own game, do you think they sell as much as marines?
>>98238229>>98239134except the tyranid suggestion, that one is acharacteristically retarded considering how conservative and accurate the others were
>>98238229>orks not even mentionedsee, this is why orks is best.
>>98239132>Those thick ass gatesThey should have use the tiny contact points they use for Heroes minis.
>>98239132Archon was already doing this btwand gw apparently fucked up some production setting already on this prototype
>>98239124>meanwhile the actual size difference
>>98239074Which recent Black Library releases have you read?
>>98239132The Pandora's Box of doing iron man numbers on products with an even greater markup?People demand the slop, it's not like GW forces them to be lazy incurious shits. They will always make Expert Multipart Kits on the side for people who care.
>>98239134>everyone who replies is going to call this bad becauseBecause it's bad, the game doesn't become a mess to get into just because you have a dozen units in each army instead of 3 units, the lines of text you need to understand each faction, or the setting, remain the same.
>>98239134Also, the Emperor-CSM storyline that keeps having to be rewritten every five years for political correctness might as well just be abandoned, the pseudo-Christ/Shaman of Time stuff was the most interesting part and they turned it into crypto-gnosticism with political intrigue and Starcraft-tier "science" already, just chop the whole thing and replace it with "vague mystery" bullshit so the setting can stop being shaken up by a toddler in a box every time an aspect of the story violates emergent political concerns.
>>98239132Have they communicated the price yet?
>>98239154nah, the creative design is becoming messier and the shelves are becoming the kind of overload of product that makes me not even want to visit the corner. but that's coming from a casual fan of the tabletop game (tho i have played and own models) and a voracious lore hound and general nerd evangelist who hosts events to get people into this stuff, so make of it what you will. it's definitely not the opinion of a 24/7 TT grog, which you might respect more.
>>98239131Fighting commu-... heresy is not a matter of convenience.
>>98238447>Seventh Seraph Revolver
>>98239067it varies a bit but if you come across that one dude at the lgs that seems to bring a different unpainted army every so often (usually an army thats gotten a massive buff) that person tends to be toxic, mainly because theres a good chance they are a waacfag
>>98238447IG heavy bolt pistol.
>>98239157>just chop the whole thing and replace it with "vague mystery" bullshitit doesn't work.gw can make an official statement that says "the horus heresy isn't canon, we don't know what happened 10k years ago" and literally every person into warhammer will still refer to the horus heresy books because they will remain the only piece of information about it, no matter how potentially inaccurate.People will stop considering the horus heresy canonical only when something else redetails the entire event from the ground up to be completely different, and even then it will fall into the same pitfalls because there's no writer capable of not injecting his politics or issues into his books and it will still be a betrayal of the idea of keeping things distant and mythical.the damage has been done, there's no way to turn something back into a mystery again.
>>98239099He actually had a team of scientists he wasn't doing everything on his own
>>98239147The latest Krieg novel has a gay female officer. But you know that. You know these books are full of culture war bullshit but your libshit ass has to play stupid even though we've all been over it a thousand times with previous books here on 40kg. With primarchs saluting a lesbian couple with a brown baby, with admechites with tumblr pronouns etc etc etc. It never ends with you people.
>>98239146oh no manletbros, we need an upscale asap!
>>98239099>Why did the emperor not have the knowledge to re-create STDs?Are STDs not a thing in 40k? Is Nurgle sleeping on the job? Why would you need them to be brought back?>He was a master of science after all[citation needed]>>98239185Also this.
Push fit orks are a pain and so are their running poses I've been try to glue them to boarding actions bases had to resort to using blue tac.Got ten boyz and five grots done
>>98239206I disagree I'm on like my 30th boy and they come together like a dream after the small amount of cleaning they need. I think its because you cut the peg off their feet and are trying to glue them on those china bases.
>>98239172Yeah. I don't know. You could probably accomplish a lot with a time skip but I know Age of Sigmar had a very messy launch and took a long, long time to catch on, and I wouldn't trust them to manage that here. It seems they're more interested in further navel-gazing IRL concerns and trampling the mystery of the setting by reaching back in time anyway. It's like they heard some fans wanted the setting to advance and figured the only way they could do so was by filling in the past and introducing newer, even cooler space marines while leaving everything meaningful untouched. True monkey's paw behavior.
>>98238021I primed something close to 100 minis over the last two days. My lungs are dead at this point and I need to go to the store and buy new filters for my respirator.
>>98239172>they will remain the only piece of information about itYou mean other than all the decades of HH related stuff we've been fed before HH books?
>>98239226there wasn't much really
>>98239222Don't worry about your lungs, there's machines that can do their job just fine.
>>98239222>just got the armageddon box>60% humidity set for the next two weeksFUCK.
I'm getting bitter cynical xenosfag fatigue. You people need to get over the fact that ever other release being Marines vs Orks stopped being a thing during Rogue Trader. That was 50 years ago.
>>98239244Nobody is saying anything about orks.
>>98239244Xenosfags should count themselves lucky, they rarely ever have to battle the urge to get new models. Look at the Eldar players, even when they get new models they never buy them. Their self-control must be immense.
>>98239229There was plenty, it was just spread very thin here and there. Then there was the Visions books that began in 2004 and ended a few months after the first HH novel. Sure, we don't get all the gay personal experiences of each faggot involved, but we've had tons of HH related fluff and even games before the BL novels and FW game. Warmaster, Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine, Realm of Chaos, Index Astartes... All full of HH related content. Not to forget plenty of old codexes having whole sections on the Horus Heresy.
>>98239244Please go be schizo on twitter.
>>98239244>>98239251fuck off
>>98239250Don't get caught up on the minutiae. You just had a moron say >um acktually we should just cut CSMs from the settingand another fuck nugget going (probably samefagging who are we kidding)>uhh 40kg will say this is bad but this is actually a great idea!It stinks of you xenosfaggots.>>98239258Found the xenosfag. 40k will never focus on your shitty dark eldar or hrud and it is better off for it.
>>98239267>everything I don't like is from a xenosfagAnon was right, you're a schizo, go back to twitter
>Xenosplayers could right at this very minute be assembling an painting a brand new set of Armageddon Orks>Choose to writhe in pain insteadWhat makes them like this?
>>98239267Please leave your tinfoil hat at the door.
>>98238229>>Sisters: Add more obvious faith magic thingsNo, this is dogshit.The whole faith retcon is fucking horrendeus dogshit that should have never been made.It was better when faith shit was just warp shit that the sisters accessed because they believed hard enough in the Emperor. And more of them there are more miracles happen since it concentrates their gestalt latent psychic potential into miracles.And this wasn't without precedent either, orks basically work in the exact same way.Adding this "faith" horseshit only exits to make 40k more weenie hut jr shit with all edge and grit sanded off.It's just going to turn 40k into a typical noblebright faggotry.
>>98239251Based and true.
>>98239285>>98239278What did your boogeyman do to make you butthurt again?
>>98239278>>98239285>2 minutes apartwhat other thread are you shitposting in?
>>98239294The xenosfags are revolting, they're also stirring up some trouble for some reason.
does the resident xenos hater have models?
>>98239299He used the same images and talking points to spend hours arguing about how ugly all primaris models are the other day, and how the game is all waacfags nowadays, what do you think?
>>98239307>how ugly all primaris models areDo you guys ever notice how manlet players have morphed into Eldar players overtime? They're like a doomed elder race that has fallen and now passes the time by crying and not buying new models.
Why are xenosfags trying to start a firstborn vs primaris fight?
>>98239136Necromunda or the LOTR game have more kits and variety than the HH, and probably they sell better.Your nonsense about marinelets is retarded. Primaris was an overcorrection over the perceived stale state of marines and now they're toning their down a bit.Literally the same people bought them all and will keep doing so. They're just more marines.
>>98239307>hates xenos>hates modern marinesmust be a first born enthusiast
>>98239318You're getting your script mixed up, the guy whining about primaris is the same guy whining about eldar.
>>98239307>hates xenos and is glad they don’t get releases over space marines>hates primaris and hates that firstborn doesn’t get releases fascinating behavior.
>>98239324We all know the popularity of Lotr but I doubt Necromunda is doing better than HH. Nobody is buying an ashwaste truck for $200.
>>98238021>What have you working on anons?I'm also a couple of editions late but I'm working on a rhino.I still need to tidy things up, do some freehand on the doors and then work on a couple of flag.
>whiny chaosfag slandering manlet player with xenosfag false flagsI play Orks and non Primaris SM, I bought an Armageddon box and I might buy another one.
>>98239324>primaris are worse than old marines and that's why gw is bringing them closer to the old designs to sell>but also nobody was buying old marines the moment primaris appeared because they were just more marines
>>98239321why are you ignoring >>98239299?
>>98238559Ork...Cunny?!?
>>98239347because you haven't posted your own models with timestamp and today's newspaper
>>98239343Not him, but I do think it is incredibly funny how people will delude themselves into thinking that primaris don't sell and people never liked them.Even though basically everyone has them now, even the most groggiest grogs have primaris marines. Even in these threads most of the marine players have only primaris or both primaris and firstborn. The people who have only firstborn are funnily enough the minority. I guess it makes sense, firstborn tend to come up short in everything.
>>98239355>Not him, but I do think it is incredibly funny how people will delude themselves into thinking that primaris don't sell and people never liked them.You say this but think it's normal for a primaris only player to say nobody bought marine models before primaris when it's all people bought before primaris.
>>98239363>to say nobody bought marine models before primariswhat post is saying that?
>>982393675+ years of primaris are king threads said it.
>>98239343>retard doesn't understand that for the majority of marinefags, primaris was just a refresh to replace the old minis>like it has happened multiple times in 40k history>butthurt because tacticals and devastators still must outsell most xeno kits despite GW discouraging their use in gamesStay mad, eldarfag
>>98239363>it's normal for a primaris only player to say nobody bought marine models before primarisNo it's not, it's common (and true) for them to say that nobody bought them after Primaris.
>>98239369>primaris are king threadsThose were a trolling response to the years and years of schizo anti primaris posting and falseflagging from eldarfagsIRL, most marinefags liked primaris, and the exceptions jumped into the HH or older editions. The hateposting here was not organic at all.
>>98239379It's been almost 10 years since primaris released and they are still selling the 40k tac squad (and devs). I think we can safely say SOMEONE is still buying them.
>>98239363Only people who say that are shitposting retards wanting to piss people off.The actual truth is that primaris sold is because people actually do find them cool and don't mind the lore or just hand wave it away.We also know that in 2017 GW was basically 2 weeks away from closing it doors and going bankcrupt, primaris the only thing that actually saved GW's ass. And we know this because of Peachy and the few ex-GW employees who worked at the company at that time.And it perfectly explains as to why GW did make primaris, and why they told Jes "Hey, make space marines 2.0". Primaris was GW's last hail mary attempt to save itself. And it worked.
How do they justify a whole armada of soldiers on countless battlefields and only around four leaders for each faction?
>>98239389>The actual truth is that primaris sold is because people actually do find them cool and don't mind the lore or just hand wave it away.No they sold because tournament faggots wanted the most overpowered units to win games.
>>98239389Contrast paints saved GW not primaris thoughbeit
>>98239363Fake and gay eldar lies.Old kits kept selling until they were retired. Specially if they were meta like Centurions (which nobody has ever liked)
>>98239370>primaris was just a refresh to replace the old minisbut the old minis were still there for a long while, unlike the updates you conflate this with, nobody bought them anymore, that's the point, that's the fact>tacticals and devastators still must outsell most xeno kits >eldarfagYou should go take meds to address your schizophrenic delusions.
>>98239392Nigga we marvel now nigga we Saturday morning cartoons nigga we he man they be calling us masters of the universe
>>98239401its not a fact because you say its a fact lmao lay off the estrogen, eldarfag
>>98239389>We also know that in 2017 GW was basically 2 weeks away from closing it doors and going bankcrupt,The numbers say otherwise. GW revenue was just stale until the first AoS GHB and 8th ed primaris a year later made it boom to what it's today.
>>98239387They were selling the old wartrakk until like yesterday.
>>98239354fuck sake have i gotta do this, i havent bought a paper in forever though
>>98239392>only around four leaders for each faction?I count 3 dozen alone on Armaggedon
>>98239392>How do they justify a whole armada of soldiers on countless battlefields and only around four leaders for each faction?Chain of command.
>>98239393>>98239395So your takeaway is that all marinefags are metachasers.
>>98239410Its sovlful and people were buying it.
>>98239410This proves the unit outsold all marine kits that have ever existed up until now.
>>98239394No, contrast paints came out after actually.In 2017, launched 8th edition of 40k. Which brought in primaris with the Gathering Storm event.We can directly see this in GW's stock prices in that time. In 2017 summer GW's stock fucking skyrockets to the strastopshere right when primaris release.
>>98239416No, the takeaway is that you're a seething envious xenofaggot that cannot stand marine kits of all types selling better than your pet faction.Which doesn't say anything about the quality of these kits, but everything about you.
>>982394300/8, trying too hard with that b8.
I don't know why minimarine fans can't just gracefully accept that they kept the game alive for many years, but were struggling by the time the primaris chads came to shoulder the burden.
>>98239409>GW revenue was just staleThings going stale IS evidence of a soon to be bankcrupt company.Also GW's stocks at that time were super low and had stagnated. What kills a company is stagnation, after it happens, everything starts to go downward.
>>98239435eldarfags weren't helping things either to be fair
>>98239435It truely is the>"I used to single handedly support this company." Says firstborn>"We know grandpa, but let me help." Says primaris
>>98239430>marine kits of all types selling betterOn what account?The circular reasoning behind the idea that more releases can only possibly come from as a result of greater sales?The hypocrisy in saying that an old marine kit staying up means it's selling, but the same not being true for another faction's?Something about your boogeymen being lazy and cheap and irrelevant but also omnipresent and behind everything bad?
>>98239438GW had been stagnant for many years at that point. GW is special in that they've always been a company without any debt, so they can just continue to exist almost forever.
>>98239448>GW had been stagnant for many years at that point.Yeah, and that's the reason why the company was dying. Stagnation kills, the truth.No wonder it was going down the drain if it was stagnant for years on end.
>>98239392It's just the way things are now. What, you don't like your giant setting of a universe feeling increasingly tiny and anemic because the same guys have to show up at every warfront to do some posturing before it's off to the next warfront?
im just a humble ork and gsc / nid collector, i dont understand the xenos hate in these generals
>>98239447We know that old marine kit sold diamonds for many years even if you want to try and argue its not at the same level anymore. We can't ever say that for your faggy eldar kits because we know you people don't even go out to buy new releases you're too busy crying about the details of their boots and helmets on here.And you fail to understand that marines will always have more broad appeal unlike your dark aeldari. If GW tried putting that same level of support for them as marines have they'd be out of business within a month, as most folk want nothing to do with that concept.
>>98239410its so old the orks look like orcs
>>98239465there's an increasing amount of secondaries who come from HFY memes/videos (the term tertiaries has been brought up at times) about the imperium and marines specifically, and whose sole interaction with people in the hobby is arguments about power levels, politics and popularity in validation of their own position. they are part of a generation that doesn't consider a product something they buy to enjoy but something to identify and fight for, which means they absorb as part of their own personality the imperial xenophobia towards the other factions, and by extension their fans.
>>98239465Sometimes ill mannered xenosfags get a little uppity and forget their place and have to be reminded that, no the setting wouldn't be better with them anywhere near the forefront and no dark eldar aren't going to outsell marines if 90% production was dedicated to them.
>>98239440Are the eldarfags in the room with us now?
>>98239493Perhaps
>>98239447>The circular reasoning behind the idea that more releases can only possibly come from as a result of greater sales?that's not circular reasoning, retard. That's just a fact of a market economy>hypocrisy in saying that an old marine kit staying up means it's selling, but the same not being true for another faction's?that's not hypocrisy, retard. That's also a fact, except for minority factions like GSC or Kroot kept alive out of love or bias
>>98239472>"on what account do you say they sell better?">"THEY JUST DO, OK?!">spergs out about eldar boogeymen
>>98239465Well you could choose to believe pseudo-intellectual ramblings like >>98239488Or you could accept that it's just men acting tribal like with sportsball teams.
>>98239490>the setting wouldn't be better with them anywhere near the forefront False, there's a reason 49k is more popular than the dedicated marineslop game.>and no dark eldar aren't going to outsell marines if 90% production was dedicated to them.True.
Any lads got some kitbashed Primaris Libarians to show?I need to make a third one for this Conclave list - one will be the original, one will be the new one from Armageddon.I could use the Terminator one from Leviathan if I was running terminators but I need a regular armor one.
>>98239502isn’t what that anon described exactly how tribal football hooliganism works? granted, he’s saying its a new phenomenon, but he’s pretty much spot on.
It's too late slaves of the Emperor, I have depicited myself as the chad Slaaneshi space marine with a flowing mane
>>98239522You have no geneseed
>>98239522baldies are welcome too!
>>98239465Nobody hates the actual xenos and their minis, frenBut some players/collectors of certain factions have adquired a well deserved bad reputation over the years.Eldar players have been widely seen as whiny waacfags since 2nd edtion. And nothing has changed in 35 years.Btw, the eldar factions themselves are amazing creations and I Iove Jes Goodwin for it.I don't collect them for 40k, but I still have their Space Crusade expansion.
>>98239512Easiest thing would probably be to use Tigurius. The most troublesome U is the one on his chest, but you could just green stuff a little laurel wreath on it of something.
>>98239465As a IGfag I love Orks, Necrons are kinda cool, nids are fun, but eldar/dark eldar are kinda lame and tau is really boring and only carried by their cute girls and cool mechs
>>98239498>that's not circular reasoningYou're saying that marines get more releases because they sell better, and then using the fact the get more releases to prove they sell better, that's circular reasoning.You haven't proven that they sell better, only that they get more releases.>that's not hypocrisy, retard. You're saying that the tactical marine staying on sale for 10 years is proof it sells a lot. While suggesting that the wartrukk staying on sale for 20 isn't proof it sells a lot. What do you call that if not hypocrisy.
>>98239532Oh yeah I forgot he got a newer model.That's a good idea, thanks anon.
>>98239502Genuinely hating the collectors of the army men that fight the army men of your choice is not you being a tribal man.It's you being a manchild with an identity crisis.
what was the debate over angrons move and terrain again?QRD?
>>98239132I think I hate OSL
Slaanesh do the evil batman thing better than the NL. I say this from this one peice of artwork I found
>>98239519it is new for 40k, people who got into the setting 20 years ago didn't have a seething hatred for some of the factions of the setting and their fanspeople today have never learned how to have good natured banter and sometimes cannot separate reality from fiction
How long does it take to paint an entire tau army? Not only do they want 1.2k for the models, the time and energy to get them in working order is crazy! Why do I still want to play it despite all this though?
>>98238710>>the lost votann supercomputer that fell below necromunda broke and began pumping out rat-like abhumansmy favorite
>>98239556>Genuinely hating the collectors of the army men that fight the army men of your choice is not you being a tribal man.In fact it is, tribalism can be very extreme. People have been killed over trivial things like supporting the wrong team.All that aside, nobody genuinely hates you, you're getting trolled on 4chan. Wisen up.
>>98239577About 3.5 years
>>98239577>How long does it take to paint an entire tau army?Too many factors to consider if you want an answer. What level of painting is necessary? Is the scheme complex? Can you use an airbrush? What's the composition of the arm.If you just need to paint a few giant mechs to a battle ready standard, and they're all just blue or whatever then it could take you an afternoon.
>>98239528>whiny waacfagsAnyone who complains about waacfags is just a sore loser
>>98239540>You're saying that marines get more releases because they sell betterthe fact that this is such a difficult concept for you to understand says it all. You're jobless and still living with your parents?>While suggesting that the wartrukk staying on sale for 20 isn't proof it sells a lot. No, that's just you making up fantasy scenarios in your head where you win, like the loser you are. I said nothing about the wartrukk.Some kits may be kept around for other reasons, like the opposite: not selling well and still having lots of inventory to get rid of. Or be waiting for their replacement in a big release for maximum sales impact.Btw, funny that you mention the old wartrukk kit. If I'm not mistaken it had such a long life because GW overproduced it for the Gorkamorka disaster (you know, one of the times GW focused in xenos only to eat shit for it)
>>98239558he ignores modifiers to his movement but the terrain rules isn't modifying his stat or something some shit like that
>>98239593There are cases where being a sore loser is justified.
>>98239583>being retarded is normal actually >also I was just pretending to be retardedhooligans don't beat up the fans of another team because they hate them, they beat them up because they want to beat up someone and they put themselves in beat up range at the beat up spot. The football teams are justifications, not rationales.If you're comparing yourself to them, then you hate eldarfags because you have hatred you want to vent against whatever.In any case you are a manchild with an identity crisis.
>>98239593Sore losers are waacfags too.You're all autistic tone deaf wannabe bullies that cannot understand people wanting to enjoy the game for other reasons, and that you ruin it.
>>98239599you know I truly believe the death of casual 40k lies in the death as rules as intended, no one wants to do that anymore, it MUST be rules as written and that sucks
>>98239608Nobody is beating eldarfags up, they're talking shit. I've heard footballs give out worse to their rival teams.
>>98239608Hating eldarfags is perfectly rational. Their continous uppity and whiny behaviour since 2nd edition to the latest 40kg threads is motive enough. They're the sweatiest meta chasers while pretending to love their faction for their lore.Just days ago we had here the first 11th ed game report. And it was an eldarfag whining about losing to Knights, ffs
>>98239595>there are many different reasons why something may be kept up on sales for a long time>but there's only one reason why something gets supported more ever don't question it!do you think stormcasts are the best selling products in aos? or do you think there are other reasons why they receive more support than other ranges? because it's a matter of fact that they're nowhere close to the most popular range in aos, despite the disproportionate support.also, no, the wartrukk wasn't being sold for 20 years because of the overproduction of one box in 1997, don't be retarded. and stop making schizophrenic assumptions about the people you talk with, it tells more about you than anything else.
>>98239600>>98239609>WAAAAH YOU BEAT ME!>WAAAAH WAAAAHCFAG!>WAAAAH WAAAAAH I SWEAR IT ISN'T A SKILL ISSUE>WAAAAAH I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO WIN>WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH
In all honesty, the range in number of releases shouldn't be this high. There are armies that have had single-digit number of releases across the past 12 years.
>>98239624that guy was justified. pure knights armies are cancer
>>98239630>not counting 5 dozen different ways an army could get a model release... just because
>>98239630Someone told me that all models are fair game from every edition, just that the codex and rules change. This true?
>>98239630that’s the price to pay when you’re too discerning. marinepiggies will eat desolators, centurions, and suppressor's by the bucketload while other armies will refuse to pick up a kit if it looks even slightly fucked up.
>>98239624>hating eldarfags is perfectly rational>I just have to delude myself into thinking that anyone who says anything I don't like is an eldarfag, for no reason >and I have to delude myself into thinking the behaviour I project onto them is unique or uniquely extreme, also for no reason How come all the worst posters of the general, carnac, slaaneshithrooder, decalfag, and you, all have this same seething towards eldar?
>>98239654>How come all the worst posters of the general, carnac, slaaneshithrooder, decalfag, and you, all have this same seething towards eldar?For real? Because eldarfags are easy to bait.
>>98239630wouldn't this be more informative if it separated between pity heroes and actual kits for units or tanks? because half the marine range is heroes
>>98239642Kill Team models are models released for Kill Team, just because they slap 40k rules on them a week after release doesn't mean they are a 40k release. Most of the other examples listed like Forgeworld, Black Library, or Warhammer+ are too limited in release to count properly, and counting an upgrade sprue as a "model" is disingenuous. There is zero justification for Grey Knights to be using the same models from 15 years ago when regular Marines get like 10 new models every year. >>98239660I can update it with pity heroes as a separate category, but I just spent the last hour making that spreadsheet so I'll pass on it for now.
>>98239657>Because eldarfags are easy to bait.You're doing this part again>I just have to delude myself into thinking that anyone who says anything I don't like is an eldarfag, for no reason
>>98239630did you make this, and if so, when you say “no kill team releases” is this for kill teams that were purely made for kill team, and aren’t used in 40K, or does this include something like the kill team scout space marines that were instantly ported to 40K? because a lot of kill team releases are pretty much meant to be 40K refreshes for less popular minis.
>>98239670See >>98239666. I think the only Kill Team I wound up counting was the separate Death Korps of Krieg release in 10th that came out without the Veteran Guardsmen sprue, but stuff like Wrecka Crews or Scouts I didn't count.
>>98239666>Kill Team models are models released for Kill Team, not 40kdude, what do you think vespids, stealth suits, wolf scouts, mandrakes, striking scorpions, flayed ones, raveners, red terror, and more are if not 40k units getting updates via kill team?
>>98239630why are world eaters being put out in the back and shot?
>>98239669Hey, I'm not the one who just pointed out that all the big shitposters of past and present have earned a lot of their (You)s by making eldarfags upset. That's all on you.
>>98239654the art of not falling for bait is a lost one, one retard needs to get their kicks from red exclamation marks on sunday lunch, other has the incessant need to chime in with how wrong the other one is. There is no greater justice to be had for correcting or responding for they care not about facts, just the fact that you're wasting time responding to them
>>98239687>by making eldarfags upsetYou're doing this thing again, again>>98239669>>I just have to delude myself into thinking that anyone who says anything I don't like is an eldarfag, for no reason
Darkmech soonI feel it in my bones
>>98239627>stormcastsperfect example of how your retarded "muh lack of support" theory is false. Despite being the face of AoS and lots and lots of releases they're a failure and nowhere as the most popular AoS faction.> the wartrukk wasn't being sold for 20 years because of the overproduction of one box in 1997orks got a direct replacement updated trukk kit in 4th ed barely a decade later. What's your geniuous explanation about the old kit still being kept around? GW generosity? lmao>muh schizoclassic 4chan troll deflection whan caught, lol. You're not fooling anyone. Nobody else has your seething hatred of marines, and insert whining about marines when talking about xeno kits. It's a classic eldarfag trait.
>>98239669>>98239700You've never once denied being an eldar/xenosfag. Nobody is going to believe you when you bring out the old tired>uh I respond to all eldar/xenos bait but acktually I play space marines
>>98239678I’m sorry, and I know you took the effort to count every release, but that’s really bad logic to go by. if that’s the case, then kommandos and tankbustas are still resin, and haven’t been sold for years, and if you went up to literally every single person who plays 40K (and I mean that as in thousands of people) you wouldn’t find a single person who agrees with that statement.
>>98239711>You've never once denied being an eldar/xenosfagYes, I did
>>98239700>You're doing this thing again, againBecause eldarfags are the ones who get upset when you denigrate eldar. Is that so hard to understand? You think marinefags care?
>>98238021Building the IW Combat Patrol. Still have to figure out the actual painting recipe. i may do a few tests on some old models
>>98239721Right? He wants us to believe a space marine player is going to spend all day defending Dark Eldar.
>>98238021I am patiently waiting for a sprue of Infractors to arrive in the mail so that I can mash them up with Mk6 marines and Legionaries to make Slaanesh renegades and Chosen
>>98239714>kommandosI can't find that shit anywhere, when will GW produce more ?
>>98239709orks got a direct replacement updated trukk kit in 4th ed barely a decade later. What's your geniuous explanation about the old kit still being kept around?Trukks and wartrakks are different units.Trukks are transports.
>>98239711>You've never once denied being an eldar/xenosfaghahaha, exactly! Another trait of eldarfags is being unable to renounce in public their allegiance. Because in their retarded identification with their pet faction they see themselves as "superior">>98239637he also had a knight unitBtw, this is not "bait". I genuinely hate eldarfags for their years and years of IRL waacfaggotry (avatar in 2nd, flying circus...etc), seething shitposting, and falseflagging (like most anti-primaris posts)
>>98239709>"muh lack of support" theoryI didn't propose any such theory, I've only been saying that marines receive disproportionate amounts of releases, which is true, and that the idea that a disproportionate amount of releases only come from selling more is a false assumption, as stormcasts prove>orks got a direct replacement updated trukk kitmy bad, I thought you could follow a conversation, it was the wartrAkk, despite the misnomer and no, it doesn't matter how much you double down on your schizophrenic ramblings, I'm not an eldarfag, unlike you I don't hate space marines specifically or factions in general, not everyone you talk to is your boogeyman
>>98239735They reboxing them nigga
