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first for exodites this edition
>>98241229Now that the dust has inarguably completely and fully settled, why did 11th edition fail?
spiderbro hereJust got out of ER. I'll be ok.
>>98241229>TQ: How was your first game of the new edition?>he plays Warhammer 40K in the year of our lord 2026 lollmao
Drier bros... we rolled a 2+!
>>98241244who the hell are you?
>>98241244Famous last words.
When do we get the rest of this chart filled in?
What xenos does the Imperium consider lower priority to murder on sight?
>>98241241It was based on 10th
I like orks :D
>>98241229>TQI have not had one yet.
>>98241229>warhammer 40,000
>>98241249Warhammer 40 000
>>98241264Why do you want this filled in when it being filled in means Space Marines will be refreshed again?
>>98241264never
>>98241283of all the nomodels posters, I think niggaposter has to be my favorite.
>>98241265Non-sapient types.
>>98241244you can't be the same spiderbro making an army of spiders, can you?
Should I worry about building a 3k point army or 1k point army? I believe 2k points is the standard, correct?
>>98241271They should bring back specifically retarded orks.
>>98241265this makes my pp hard
Now that 10e can be preserved in amber for next generations, what do we think about it? Ignore codexes, since those are always unbalanced as fuck. Focus on the core rules and expansion content only. Was 10e really bad? Was it worse than 7e?
>>982413112k is standard, 1k is played for fun, you will never play 3k.
>>98241323It was good. No 8e kino, but better than 7e.I'll always curse it for the free wargear though.
>>98241265Tau and craftworld eldar probably. Since both of those actual civil and aren't interested in skinning you alive, and you can at least try talking with them first. Not that the Imperium does that much.Rest of them are either too dangerous, like orks, tyranids, GSC. Or not worth the effort to bother even talking with.Like necrons, they are all either stubborn as fuck or mindless automatons, or they are flayers who WILL skin you alive. Same goes for Deldar, they are pretty stubborn shits too, but they are more often backstabbing dickheads so further you stay away from their "skinning-you-alive-range" and less you talk with them the better.
>>98241304Life pulled me away from the hobby. (2 jobs) unrelated to spiders... I was bitten at work.
>hey we saw you from across the torture pits and we really like your vibe
>>98241311Nice having a 1k list for some fun/learning with your friends
>>98241348Hair dye is for sissies.
If I go to a lgs, can I find a game to play in, or is it mostly tournie play if you don't have a possie?
>>98241356Depends on the store, many won't even have tables.It's entirely possible though.
>>98241244>spiderbroYou're the only one calling yourself that, you autistic attention whore. Start a blog, nobody gives a fuck
>>98241346what were the chances
Can one of you guys post the Mega link for 40k novels
>>98241353He's an Eldar bro
>>98241363my location they're rumored to be one infested house in every three houses
Why do human beings still tolerate spiders? Surely there are some lab guys who could invent a plague to kill them all.
If I buy the codex in the current store, I get access to every update through every edition on the app?
>>98241382They're one of the main creatures that stops mosquitoes killing off the human race.
>>98241386You register the code in your codex which gives you access to that editions rules and will continually update itself in the app. It is only for that edition, no other edition.
>>98241387Why do human beings still tolerate mosquitoes? Surely there are some lab guys who could invent a plague to kill them all.Make it poison their blood and then it kills all the spiders too. Two birds with one stone.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
What is the most fun army to play against and why is it Orks?
>>98241229Any of you anons have the version of this comic where it's a Chaos Space Marine talking about a Venomcrawler?
>>98241406Shitty forced meme; probably just 1 guy posting it every thread.
>>98241405they tried>they're too spreadable
>>98241382they're goated fuck off
>>98241405We do have quite effective extermination methods for mosquitoes, we kill the mosquito populations by releasing huge amounts of genetically modified mosquitoes.Once the genetically modified mosquitoes mate with a normal mosquito, the normal mosquito lays eggs but those eggs just don't develop, you can essentially make a population collapse to near 0 in a few cycles.
>>98241264Grid is missing jump packs, terminators, and regular tacticus.
>>98241428And so the spiders will die off in a mass starvation event?
>>98241265Nonsentient.For sentient ones, probably Eldar and Tau.
>>98241414it's so funny how much rage this causesjust filter it, I doubt he changes the hash
>>98241408>What is the most fun army to play and why is it Orks? ftfy
>>98241414>probably just 1 guyanon, 90% of ritualposts are done by just 1 guy.
>>98241264Never now that GW realized primaris are unpopular and went back to original designs with Terminators, Scouts etc
>>98241474I don't mind Phobos, but Gravis is... fucking retarded
>>98241382Because most of them are ecologically valuable and eat pests, retard.
>>98241474>original designs with Terminators, ScoutsBoth of those have been updated with Primaris elements.
>>98241479Crazy that you like the worst one
>>98241483They are pests, that poor bozo actually got bitten by one. They're literally deranged creatures.
>>98241323There were some glaring errors in the rules at launch, like devastating wounds. And some absurd adjustments along the way, like the catch up mechanics. So when you ask about the core rules of 10th you kind of have to specify a time. Rules post all errata, ignoring codices, are fine.
>>98241489No, I said Gravis is retarded!
They said you'll be able to look up the rules for your opponent's army on the appDon't you only get access to rules you bought the codex for though? Or are they just expecting all of us to buy every codex?
>>98241492Human habitated zones are never cleared properly. I would've welcomed something.I have dogs anti bug spray I'll just dash on my shoes to make spiders go away. It's an oil coctail that smells minty.
>>98241323The codexes were the better part of 10th; the core rules of 10th were the problems. They took out too much of what made the game 40k.
>>98241505You can link your phones, which grants you the ability to look at your opponents list and associated rules for the duration of the game.
>TQI'll remember to forget to tell you about it when it happens.
>>98241507Getting nasty oil all over our shoes is not something we should have to put up with.Let's just kill them all.
>>98241414The truth will always be preached.
now that 10 man units of infiltrators and incursors are cheaper I have to buy another box of phobos marines.
>>98241382Because spiders only kill dumb people.
>>98241536Yet they don't discriminate where they drag their creep crawly asses and leave their gross webs.
>>98241474>and went back to original designs with TerminatorsThen why did they make more gravis in the Armageddon box? That's just them saying we are getting more gravis, which I don't mind since they are cool, gravis are perfect for devastator style units.
>>98241561I want melee Inceptors with big ass lightning claws.
>>98241574I don't, inceptors are trash. Normal ground based gravis is good.
>>98241574>lightning clawsYou're not thinking straight
>>98241405nigger population control, mainly
>>98241574>>98241582I want melee gargoyles that makes more sense than making imperial guard krieg platoons. Yet here we are.
I would like gravis more if they kept doing the integrated weaponry thing. Plasma shoulder guns, grav-fists, melta gauntlets, etc.
>>98241582Inceptors are based and we should have more inceptor platforms.You could even have big robot talons on their feet, it would be great. >>98241586Yeah, that'd be cool.
Can normal humans use bolters, if they find them?
>>98241586>Primaris Hoplitaes
>>98241597Bolter specifically made for a human to use? Yes.Bolter made for a space marine? No.
>>98241597Most often the answer is yes.
>>98241597Can and have.
>>98241405>surely there are some lab guys who could invent a plague to kill them allThey already have and it's proven extremely effective. They're just pussies and don't think we should completely eradicate a species despite said species being an unquestionably damaging spreader of disease and parasites with zero environmental weight which necessitates that risk be tolerated.We need to stop being faggot hippies about the natural world and start terraforming this bitch. Mosquitos, bed bugs, internal parasites, jews, ticks. Just wipe them all out with our superior human brains and improve the health of every other living thing that provides value to the world. Letting some little shit bug be a blight to humanity isn't ethical.
>>98241597Not easily, but sure.
>>98241586That is just slop.
>>98241265Why is this Sister way taller than the Eldar?
>>98241608Hell yes. Why should nature be exempt from man's laws?
>>98241408>>98241455A good krumping is always fun for both sides if your opponent isnt a faggot.
>>98241608>>98241616true, and the birds that eat our grain should be killed!
>>98241486Lolno
>>98241597There are different bolters for different people. Bolter just means it fires bolts, which are tiny rocket propelled gyrojets with explosive payload that also bore into armor. The technology can be applied in a variety of platforms.Regular humans have small bolt pistols and bolters. You can see these in Dakrtide for example.Then in the middle are Godwyn-Deaz bolters, which are for power-armored regular humans but can still be used be an un-armored human who has strong arm strength.Then at the upper end you have Astartes bolters, which are designed to be used by superhuman monsters. They will break your wrist when you shoot them. For a regular human to use an Astartes bolter, they would want to be wearing power armor, or brace it against the ground. There are stories of people using Astartes bolters, but they generally involve some extra hoops to jump through, like bracing the weapon against the ground/cover, or injuries afterward.There's also some leeway, and examples of exceptions. For example, Sgt Harker carries around a non-astartes heavy bolter just fine. He's just an above average strength human from a death world and they are the peak of what a non-augmented human can be.
>>98241621Have you just never bothered to look?
>>98241608>Mosquitos, bed bugs, internal parasites, jews, ticks.Kek
>>98241619Eagles eat tiny birds so we should keep the tiny birds for them.
>>98241405Mosquitos are a big part of the food chain and get eaten by small predators, which themselves are food to other predators.Fucking with the food chain can have really bad unforeseen knock-on effects.It's like how chinese during Mao's reign tried to fight off all the animals they viewed as vermin, only for all of it to just result in a fucked up famine that killed like 55 million people, and that's the conservative estimate.
>>98241443There have been a few studies about the ecological impact of eradicating mosquitos and the general consensus is that there would be, likely, near-zero actual impact to ecosystems and such. There aren't any predators that eat mosquitos exclusively because there's thousands of other flying insects available in every location mosquitos exist.The main reason we haven't is because we aren't 100% certain, and since this is the sort of thing you can't go back on, they want to be really really sure.
>>98241624Yeah it's not mentioned often but the strongest unaugmented humans can literally be as strong as an average marine. They're the kind of guys that if they were made into Marines become giant freaks even by Astartes standards like the chapter master of the space sharks.
>>98241641As for reference, I mean "conservative" as in this is was during Communist china, so who knows if they are even saying the truth that it was at max "Only 55 million", it could've been higher than that.
>>98241647>but the strongest unaugmented humans can literally be as strong as an average marine.Lmao no. Marines can bench press tanks and tear open armored doors and space ship bulkheads.A regular human is never going to be "as strong as an average marine", this is just retarded.
>>98241672Sgt. Harker would beat up an bog standard Marine
>>98241280Warhammer 40,000
>>98241680is that bricky?
>>98241672>Marines can bench press tanks and tear open armored doors and space ship bulkheads.Do you realize how retarded this sounds?>BUT DA LORE! DA LOOOOORE!!!
>>98241672>Marines can bench press tanksStop reading BL fanfic retard. Genestealers are explicitly stronger than marines in printed black and white text in the marines own words in rulebook lore. If they could "bench press tanks" a single Genestealer could pick up a Leman Russ and throw it across the table.
>>98241641The famine from the Great Leap Forward happened because the CCP completely reorganized the traditional agriculture in the entire country all at once, in the most retarded fashion possible, and then took 30% of the food produced and did nothing with it. Not a single person who knew how crops worked was in a position to make decisions about any of it, including what to plant, how much, when and where. It was not because they tried to kill bugs. It was because they completely bankrupted their agrarian peasant class in the span of less than a decade.
>>98241265Tau and Eldar.Orks, Nids, and Necrons are immediate kill on sight because of much of a constant threat they are
>>98241229>wmaf>af playing warhammerlol
>>98241621It's true!Observe.The first difference is the height obviously.But there are also: ankle disks, extra knee protection, big belt buckle, overlapping abdominal plates, vents located at the ribs...
>>98241280>>98241680you need to get a life
>>98241699could be weirder, could be wmbf
>>98241244Make sure to keep that bite area pressure free so you don't develop and eschar, for now. If they want you to keep it open and come back for more appointments fine, but otherwise I'd bandage it with a manuka honey alginate dressing to help fight infection. BRS Bites are a lot like compression ulcers in diabetics, the residual venom after cleaning slows down healing like crazy.
>>98241647>giant freaks even by Astartes standards like the chapter master of the space sharks
>>98241702Spin him around and you'll see he has the dread Primaris backpack dome, plus the cables on the on his back ribs. Also the bolt pistols are in Primaris style.
>>98241711i was advised a hot compress and antibiotics, got a tetnus shot, ultrasound for fluid buildup(there was none, I bet the holes seeped it out) and bandages+neosporinalso to pop anything that builds up on my own
>>98241474>primaris are unpopular>release another edition's worth of primaris
>>98241716Damn, what they feeding those Cadian boys
>>98241707"Wdym that the Dark Eldar ain't that "Dark"?"
>>98241716>the greatest miniatures wargame on earth>can even establish a consistent scale
>>98241729That spoilered bit is actually one of the most important components of this. There's no circulation inside an abscess, which means antibiotics can't get inside but nasty bacteria etc will thrive. You don't want to be bothering the site unnecessarily, lancing anything that looks suspect and draining it is crucial.
>>98241742the scale is consistent, that marine is just not that tall
>>98241736Their main selling point for the new intercessors was literally "look, some of them have old armour parts and helmets that don't look like the shitty faggy base primaris" they just obviously didn't go far enough because these pussies think they can cater to everyone at once by compromising and half-assing it.
>>98241745Thanks. Not a stranger to poking. The tetnus shot was a breeze. Sure I'm saying that now.>I'm certain I'll roll over and sleep on that shoulder tonight
>>98241750Yeah, but guess what? The multipart intercessors kit isn't changing. It's literally just an excuse to have slightly different intercessors in the box.
>>98241750>obviously didn't go far enoughthen what makes you think they are unpopular?
>>98241707does your black gf play warhammer anon?
>>98241759Are you retarded
My exgf a few years ago liked dnd and videogames and it was fun sharing hobbies like that. It's a shame girls who like 40k are even more rare than videogames/rpg's.
>>98241750they're experimenting with monopose to piss people off with the "we have different plates on the same models!" and when they see they have 4 of the same looking model with piecemeal plate parts it'll make people buy the base kits to avoid it
>>98241705He's a perpetually jealous secondary seething that there are people who have friends and actually play the game.
>>98241765lolno, I wish I had a gf let alone a black one :(
>>98241773DnD and vidya let women simulate social interactions, cooperation, relationships. Men are typically more likely to find mechanics, combat, and competition appealing. I think the number 1 thing 40k has going for it in terms of appealing to women is the hobby aspect, where they can be a bit more creative. For the most part, 40k just isn't built to appeal to most women and never will. Doesn't matter how many stronk female characters are put in the setting.
>>98241767>primaris are unpopular because they're reverting the designs!>actually they are not even doing it by much at all>but that's not proof primaris aren't unpopular, I swear!
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Why did 2k become the default? I thought in the 2nd-4th era, the game was balanced around 1500pts, with a lot of units being about 20% more expensive.
>>98241803they need to add more: dogs at work, puppies that train for work and puppydog apprentices to appeal to women.
>>98241817actually they get better results by adding dickish flamboyant dudes and gloomy aggressive antiheroes
So, what do you think is going to be in Codex Word Bearers aside from Lorgar, the new Defiler, land raiders, rhinos, and probably Erebus?
>>98241843word bearers aren't getting split from the normal chaos codex, that would be retarded
>>98241848They've got a daemon Primarch, and a Legion head on the defiler. Iron Warriors are going first, but the Word Bearers will follow.
>>98241843I imagine a focus on cultists and possessed.
>>98241843Kor Phaeron giving Terminators core keyword.Core Phaeron!
>>98241848Are you saying GW aren't retarded?
>>98241280Brother...why do you keep reposting this picture for weeks and months, even in other threads. Did you lose to this guy?
>>98241680Is it truly possible to attain this physique?
>>98241843I don't think we'll see a new codex for a while. You may even see codex mergers happening. The detachment keyword system is going to give them the ability to make subfactions within a single codex on par with Space Marine supplements, and they're going to use CSM to experiment with it. You watch.
>>98241699It is a bit funny. One would think she'd be playing TOW's Cathay, to appeal to the asian audience.
>>98241312they should and they will. they’ll run out of model ideas at some point, and then they’ll have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. its only a matter of time until the skitzos, maniks, and all other mad boyz run free to chase butterflies and hug enemy troops.
>>98241699I see them all the time, but I live in a highly asian neighborhood.
>>98241327Just game size creep, 6-7th were around 1750-1850pts, and by the time of 8th 2k become a tourney standard which creeped into regular play for most mega's.At the end of the day just ask if you want to play smaller points games, your not forced to play 2k so being the change you want in the world usually starts with you.
>>98241586Not sure if mega retarded or mega genius
>>98241479I really want to like Gravis, but the hoods ruin it for me.
>>98241843>what do you think is going to be in Codex Word Bearers Chaos, obviously.
>>98241924What army do they play?
>>98241929And the existence of Knights as an army warps the game around them to the point that lists kinda need the extra 250-500pts to have anti-knight tools in the toolbox.
>>98241937I mean the jump from 1750pts to 1850 back in 7th was due to all the space marine players wanting to run a librarian but not want to change their lists, so there many reasons for jumps over the years.I'll never advocate for list tailoring, but talking with your opponent about what army they're running can be healthy for the game since you may still go up against a skew list, but your still have an idea of what things to take, and so does your opponent, with out fully tailoring against a specific list.
>>98241229Real TQ>Would you crack the Asian game girl?
>>98241229>mfw I bring my fully painted Imperial Knight army to gaming night and I look around hoping someone will play with me (no one does)
On one hand Black Templar primaris marines are the coolest shit ever made. On the other hand Black Templar fans are the larpiest bunch of faggots around.
>>98241265Service xenos are the lowest because they're known and useful. Nonsapient too, Joekaro and technically Grox count.
>>98241944I would kinda like a system where you can sideboard a 250-500pt detachments for going into skew lists, but the game is played at 1500-1750. Especially in the compressed table sizes 40k is played at now. It kinda sucks that the early turns are the most impactful, instead of the greatest tension in the game coming in the middle in a nice rising action.
>>98241597I grabbed an Astartes Bolter. The machine-spirit cried in anger and exploded. It must've realized how much better I am and refused to dirty my hands with its presence because the explosion didn't harm me.
>>98241963it depends, does she play 40K and like orks>she doesn’t play 40K and doesn’t like orksno>she plays 40K, but doesn’t like orks no>she doesn’t play 40K, but does like orks maybe>she plays 40K, and likes orks yes :D
>>98241597astartes boltguns are gene coded to their user. only they can use it.
>>98241280A bit too on the nose
>>98241843see >>98241868
>>98241963I'm weak to average Asian women, so yes.
>>98242002Wait, wasn't there a part in a previous thread about how one dead guy got looted by an ally? How does that work then? Gene code wears off on death?
>>98241906Big if true.
>>98242006LEON! STOP LOOKING AT ADA!
>>98241280He looks like the type to call you /v/ermin for asking why we need models of black womyn
>>98242013He displeases my penis.
>>98241705>>98241887People post their favorite go-to images all the time right here on four chan dot org. But for some reason this particular one always triggers the absolute hell out of you. I wonder what the reason could be, you fat clown…
SHOO MANLET
>>98242002Sounds pretty stupid. It's not that hard to envision scenarios where a marine might need to pick up a fallen brother's bolter to keep fighting. Besides heretic astartes, what enemies are even going to try to use their bolters anyway? Normal humans can't reliably fire it off hand and the only xenos that might want it them are lootas.
>>98242012He said average
>>98242040I’m not sure if what he said is true, but that sounds really similar to Judge Dredd, so it might be a writer porting it from Dredd or the anon mistaking it, but I think that’s the problem because in the case of Dredd, they’re just super cops who go out alone into dangerous territory where the wrong move can get them killed easily, and then they have their weapon taken from them by people who ordinarily are wielding garbage. space marines are super soldiers in an actual war which means that anything that manages to kill an entire squad of marines is not going to get a huge advantage by picking their weapons.
>>98242013diversity is his strenf
>>98241624So Godwyn-Deaz are the ones Sisters would be using, since they're the unaugmented power armored humans?
Why is it that there are no eldar posters in these threads, yet posters vote them the worst of the general? Surely these aren't children who can't move on from a match they lost 15 years ago, right?
is there a scan of the mission deck out yet?
>>98241969This is gonna be me except imperial guard.
>>98242065anyone who thinks eldar are the worst posters here is a retard, but secondaries who are fans of a faction can technically be lumped in with other fans of that faction.
>>98241993That's sounds like gay tcg shit, just talk with your opponent or prepare properly if you going to a tourney.
I'm in the mood to make a small 500pts of Space Marines but from one of the niche weirder chapters. I know Legion of the Damned is the go to but what are some others that stuck with you? i swear i read a WD back in the day listing them.
>>98242040Muh Imperial sacred tech do not touch or anger machine spirit
>>98242040I’m pretty sure csm would use primaris weapons.Unless there is some kind of cultural or symbolic refusal to use them in battle so gw doesn’t have to make official chaos primaris.
>>98241614artists are usually putting their energy into drawing, not autistically consuming BL books and usually simply do not know that eldar are taller than humans
>>98242080>That's sounds like gay tcg shit,It is TCG shit, but Knights are even more of a list check at low points than higher>just talk with your opponent Obviously> prepare properly if you going to a tourneyYes, I think this has contributed to game point level creep to the 2k standard so that a take-all-comers tournament list can deal with Knights, whether through board control or bringing enough AT.The larger points values, which means more firepower, and smaller tables create pacing problems in a game engine built around medieval combat.
I don't understand why you'd ever make a space marine army out of a real chapter, Sisters army with a real order, etc. They're not 'your guys' if you aren't making them.
>>98241608they actually already did this lots of times and every single time it sucked ass because biodiversity is important to all life, as annoying as bugs are
>>98242030lmao dont just execute anon like that, that's fucked up
>>98242019i love brown town, especially brown gyarus
>>98242065There are Eldar posters, though. There's the anon who's got an Iyanden army and another with a bunch of wraiths. There are just a handful of autistic faggots on 4chan who regularly cry and shit themselves about Eldar in this general and the usual elf thread.
>>98242118most of my armies are /mydudes/, but I do enjoy every aspect of the marines malevolent, so the idea of making /mydudes/ that are exactly like the marines malevolent would be a waste of time, and completely redundant when I can just use the actual marines malevolent.
>>98242127I think Eldar are cool, and their design means that once you have a collection, you will basically always find a way back into competitive viability. They're a very future-proof army.
>>98241280I’ve been seeing this guy quite a number of times.Is there more to the meme than his appearance that isn’t a candle to Van Darkholme or Billy Herrington’s beauty or is this guy a near drachenlord lolcow by behavior?I get that the lad looks like the personification of a warhammer 40k player who also consumes Mike Brooks’ books religiously but is there more to it?
We need more no pants units.
>>98242134He is the most succinct encapsulation of the comp scene
>>98242134>Billy Herrington’s beautyPraise be unto Aniki. RIP.
>>98242134Brutal Cunnin' was pretty good but I can't stand Brooks after having heard him in interviews. Fucking commie.
>>98242125Lmao he tells on himself every single time. He’s the biggest red flag in every game store he happens to be shitting up on a given day
How do I get good with painting eyes on minis? I've never done it before. The eye on the right looks good though the black is too thin while left got screwed up.
>>98242134It seemed like there was one dude posting the picture all the time in any thread making fun of tournie fags always saying the same thing about him....now I think it's kind spread a little bit.
This is what the Eldar need more of.
>>98242184cute eyeshadow. I usually don’t bother to thin the paint too much to prevent it from spilling over, and then I just use a very fine tip brush to poke it on. I’ve always heard a toothpick could be used on rivets, so you could use the same principle to do eyes.
>>98242061Yes precisely. It's their primary pattern of bolter. Sisters also use storm bolters and heavy bolters as well. Because of their armor. But even unarmored, they could operate a Godwyne-Deaz, and lots of people do.>>98241647That's not quite true. Ogryn are stronger than marines in pure application of strength, such as lifting or pulling, but they are inferior to marines when it comes to tactics, training, experience, agility, jumping, etc. So there is one linear way in which an abhuman is stronger, but if they were to actually fight, marines would beat ogryn like 95% of the time. >>98241672This is also not quite true, however. They can't literally bench press tanks. A marine can shoulder check through a brick wall or wooden structure while unarmored, and they can lift and move heavy stone or concrete statues that would normally take like 4+ normal men to do, but let's not go into hyperbole. They are stronger than the strongest current day weightlifter or any unaugmented human in 40k, but they're still below an ogryn and many of the monsters they face like hive tyrants and ork warbosses. Those actually can bench a car.
>>98241697Half of your post is right, but you also display a misunderstanding of the scenario and you're underestimating that the sparrow extinction really did have a major impact.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_campaign>The extermination of sparrows – also known as the Eliminate Sparrows campaign – resulted in severe ecological imbalance, and was one of the causes of the Great Chinese Famine which lasted from 1959 to 1961, with an estimated death toll due to starvation ranging in the tens of millions (15 to 55 million)>Millions of sparrows were killed.[37] While the campaign was meant to increase yields, concurrent droughts and floods as well as the lacking sparrow population decreased rice yields.[38][39] The extermination of sparrows upset the ecological balance, which subsequently resulted in surging locust and insect populations that destroyed crops due to a lack of a natural predator.[40][41]>With no sparrows to eat them, locust populations ballooned, swarming the country and compounding the ecological problems already caused by the Great Leap Forward, including widespread deforestation and misuse of poisons and pesticides.[39] Although sparrows were removed from the Four Pests in 1960, the disruption of ecological balance, combined with errors in food distribution policies and the exaggeration of crop production figures, led to the Great Chinese Famine.[42][43][44][45] >According to a 2025 study, the anti-sparrow campaign accounted for a nearly 20 percent drop in crop production, leading to the deaths of two million people.[46]>By the end of the Four Pests campaign, the Eurasian tree sparrow was practically extinct from China, which afterwards imported 250,000 Eurasian tree sparrows from the Soviet Union to recover its population.[46][47]Do I agree bankrupting the agrarian peasant class was also the biggest factor? Sure. (That was the cause in the Soviet famines, where they did not kill their sparrows). But it definitely made it worse.
I havent played in a few editions, can sisters of battle take a unit of space marines in this edition?
>>98242195Is it just Fuegan and the Avatar that have fire axes?
>>98242207>Ogryn are stronger than marines in pure application of strengthMarines have the upper hand through cunning where ogryns are just brutal in strength with little cunning if at all.Your post reminded me of a silly headcanon I have about thunder warriors technically being “better” warriors than marines because all their genetic modifications were for combat efficiency with barely any genetic stability if they were given any stability modifications at all.The marines we’re a mixture of both combat efficiency and genetic stability.But it is just my silly headcanon.
>>98242209Technically any imperium army can take a unit of Grey Knights or Deathwatch with them through the Agents of the Imperium rules.No Black Templar though for Sisters, which is fucked up.
What are the legion of the damned?
>>98242168>Fucking commie.He's incredibly based and been triggering chuds for years now. Here's to the lad, may he keep triggering snowflake chuds for years to come!
>>98242221No. Fire Dragon Exarchs can have axes too. As can wraithblades.
>>98242040Here's the real question - what kind of clusterfuck campaign are you in where you're regularly picking up normal weapons off your fallen comrades because you're running out of guns faster than you're running out of ammo? Because both in-lore and IRL, there are plenty of times when people have put in extra effort to keep specialty weapons through losses, but not the common general-issue rifles, because 99% of things that will break a weapon will also break the person carrying it.>>98242118For me, it's playing any sub-faction popular enough to have modeled named characters. There's not much difference between picking a glup shitto background unit and making your own. Either way, there's clear intent and personality. Meanwhile, if you play Space Wolves, it's going to be an uphill battle to convince someone that your choice wasn't explicitly BECAUSE they get a lot of support and attention and have their own painting guides and such.>>98242209At this point alliance rules only let Imperium armies borrow a few Sororitas, Imperial Agents, Knights, or Titans. A lot of lists take a few Knights as spare heavy armor. That said, Imperial Agents includes some Grey Knights and Deathwatch...
>>98242235Originally they were a chapter called the Fire Hawks who contracted a warp plague that made them into a type of living dead, but they continued to serve the Emperor.More modern fluff has them essentially being space marine ghosts who show up in times of dire need to help turn the tide and then vanish.
>mini is dual wielding a power sword and a regular swordSo do I just paint the regular sword as a power sword? I feel like it would look dumb otherwise.
Question for Chaos BrosCultist Mob or Traitor Guardsmen? Im trying to figure which is better for my 1k list. Cult Mob are cheap and do decent at just staying home an maybe taking an objective if need be, but guard aren't so bad at doing the same thing for 20 points more.Which do you prefer?
>>98242235Mid 90's ghost story/myth thats confirmed to be real but has never -and should never- be explained. They are strange space marines in armor decked out in iconography of fire and bones that absorb light and are only lit by the random flames on their own armor. They are in Heresy era plate, are extremely skilled, one has never been seen dying in battle and they appear anywhere and everywhere in the battle to turn the tide for imperium forces when all hope seems lost.There are a few in universe and out theories but none are confirmed on purpose but they are:>The cursed foundings Firehawks chapter who were lost in a strange warp anomoly and contracted some strange illness/curse from the deep warp and stay isolated to stop it spreading and its eating them alive but making them totally resitent to pain.>They are imperial daemons summoned by the emperor to defend terra and the webway during the siege and ferrus is their chapter master>They are straight up ghosts, vengful yurei spirits that persist because a space marine that falls in battle could never rest in peaceNobody knows the real story, nobody should. They are a myth.
>>98242246I thought Imperial armies can also take any assassins from Agents they want.
>>98242208The Soviet famines also had Lysenkoism, where Stalin's pet scientist Lysenko had a crazy theory that plants only needed air and water to grow.Stalin ordered that this was to be put into practice in Soviet farming and "reactionary" fertiliser based techniques were to end, and scientists or farmers supporting them were to be suppressed.This was a major factor in the Soviet famines too which caused widespread crop failures and millions dying.Moral of the story for both sparrows and Lysenkoism, is don't let authoritarians put crazy theories into practice on a whim for entire populations, without extensive scientific review first. Scientists may be boring and some ideas might look good or obvious at face value, but you have to know your shit thoroughly before you do shit
Whats stopping me kitbashing a box of space marines as Legion of the Damned and just running them as Deathwatch allies?
>>98242269>summoned by the emperor to defend terra and the webway during the siege and ferrus is their chapter masterhuh.
>>98242285Ludonarrative dissonance when your supposedly extremely powerful LotD just die as easily as any MEQ.So run them as a Counts As a more durable/powerful type of troop like Terminators or something, and put them on a bigger base raised up so they're a rules complaint counts-as.
>>98242277Lysenkoism was also a deliberate middle finger to scientists and a very>My scientific rivals are politically against the state thus their theories are illegitimate style.>>98242208I should mention that Mao at various times asked economists what to do, only to get criticism for his plans, then he executed him. If there's another moral then experts aren't perfect but mindlessly ignoring them or even going contrarian in the name of politics is not a safe move.
>>98242300When did they last have rules? 7th? did they have something like the old necron "warp out" rule to get around them dying?
What do you think for Night Lord bases, industrial, irradiated or maybe a winter theme?Anyone ever do a voidship base?
>>98242300>Ludonarrative dissonance when your supposedly extremely powerful LotD just die as easily as any MEQ.Weren't they just vanilla marines with extremely restricted unit access, and blanket deep strike and 6+ invuln?
Speaking of sci-fi tropes do we have any anti-matter weapons in 40k? Is that a thing that exists in universe?
>>98242285Nothing, you can use the versatile veterans armory to fluff out pretty much any chapter.
>>98242235It was the Fire Hawks.Now they're spooky ghosts.In the Uriel Ventris novels he meets the ghost of Remus Ventanus, a guy from the heresy who is a Damned Legionnaire.In the heresy books themselves the Emperor summons what appears to be the Legion briefly, led by the ghost of Ferrus Manus in the webway.Later on before Sanguinius goes to fight Horus he gets to talk to the ghost of Ferrus, who says the afterlife sucks and that they're all damned.
>>98242266Always cultists, the firepower and defensive upgrades that traitor guard offer are not worth +20 points and being able to sticky your home objective with cultists is invaluable since after that you can use them to screen out deep strikers or outflankers, or charge a midfield objective.
>>98242333Yes but very rare
40k needs more space colonies
>>98242347How do you properly Screen?
>>98241244Ohio?
>>98242190He’s an icon essentially. Instead of arguing with tourney fags you just post that dude and it makes them melt down. They can’t handle the mirror
>>98242266I like Traitors but sticky objective is way more valuable. 20 more points but feel barely stronger, kind of a letdown.
me ungame bungame flamethrowerpraise Emprahttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/awmerDisruption? Priority Assets? No, not for me. I run fast and shoot gun. Fast gun good.
>>98242409>Muh Bael
>>98241915But as a Chink, I find it boring and very shallow compared to how vast Asian mythologies are.
>>98242006Don't deny yourself.
So wraithblade axes and swords are the same unit right? And unit cap is msu? So I cap out at 15 wraithblades in a list?
>>98242378put cheap unit in front of expensive unit
>>98242433Is it a different datasheet or different wargear options?I just started working with lahmian medium and i love it.
Every time I read Wraithguard I hear Dagoth Ur's voice asking for it.
>>98242433Unless you're in Spirit Conclave then yes, you're stuck to 3 squads of Wraithblades no matter if you're taking Axes or Swords in them. The 3-Per-Army rule is based on datasheet, not wargear.
I think Siege Detachment might be the detachment for artillery. I know, very surprising. It's just that at first sight>"1/3 of the enemy's units don't benefit from cover...>....unless you're using either of the other two options instead"Doesn't sound that hot. Barrage guns outside LoS don't sound that hot themselves either. Probably for the best, I guess?
Reminder that Lasgun stocks are very useful.
>>9824132310th overall after some patching (*COUGH* DEVASTATING WOUNDS, INDIRECT FIRE *COUGH*) was pretty good outside of a couple of hiccups mainly vehicles being buffed from 9th turning it into tank spam edition while most anti-tank outside of lascannons got nerfed hard. Almost every single unit in the game having a unique special ability after they brought back universal special rules was laughably retarded too.List of stuff that used to be anti-tank but became a meme that maybe wounds a transport on lower than a 5+ in 10thPowerfistsPowerklaws (literally went DOWN in strength)Thunder hammersPlasma CannonsShokk Attack GunsRokkit LaunchasMeltagunsMulti-MeltasMissile Launcher Krak MissilesToo many vehicle cannons to count7e is still the worst 40k edition ever though. Free wargear > Free razorbacks
>>98242491hehehe butt stroke
I can't tell which way I am overthinking this. Do you organize units into detachments in 11th or are the detachment rules, enhancements, and strats applied to your whole army? For example, if I have the detachments helhunt lance and bastions of tyranny selected for chaos knights, and I have a knight tyrant, the builder allows me to select enhancements from either detachment. Do I gain the detachment rules from both detachments, or do I choose a detachment for the knight to be in and he only has access to rules from that side?
Wait, you Astartes still segregate Primaris from entering Rhinos? Can't they use Drop Pods now?
>>98241672>Lmao no. Marines can bench press tanksThis is physically impossible retard. The marine would not lift anything and would immediately be put through the floor or have his spine collapse or knees explode no matter how strong or reinforced because he would need to exert an equivalent downward force. There's a reason that it usually requires multiple men to lift heavy shit and it isn't just strength- it's multiple points of anchorage and distribution of downward force as well as upward strength. Newton's Third Law you jackass.
>>98242106The new Red Corsairs have Primaris-sized normal bolters with the gay tacrails on, so.>>98242002This has never been canon. It's technologically wasteful and a stupid idea, too. There's plenty of examples of Marines using their dead buddy's gun all the time.
>>98242491Shouldn't the spiky point forwards, rather than backwards? The enemy is at the front
>>98242514Enemy might be a pirate after your booty from behind so you give him the butt stroke instead of the front stab.
>>98241815I just realized I've been hearing this since 2010 lmao
I failed almost all of my Dark Pact rolls today, guys.
>>98242523Do not give the butt nor stroke the Booty Pirate! That is precisely what he's after!!
>>98242511>would put him through the floorIf the floor can't handle the weight of a tank. The marine would have a smaller contact area, but building are designed to handle more than the expected load.>no matter how strong or reinforcedThink about how small the contact area of a rope over a wheel is. It can pick up a tank with a relatively miniscule single point of failure because it is sufficiently reinforced.
>>98242511>>98242512GW deciding that "everything is canon" has been disatrous for 40k as a whole, the setting is super inconsistent thanks to every BL writing whatever they want with 0 oversight and it being 100% factual and canon leading to really dumb shit that hampers the setting as a whole and you have people like the guys you replied to popping up all the time with headcanons that they heard on the internet.
>>98242507rhinos use clown car technology it's unbalanced how small a vehicle can carry so many normal sized humans let alone marines
>>98242542That's the genius of it. The Booty Pirate will never stop chasing until he gets what he wants. Armies have tried stopping him and failed. Giving him only enough to satisfy him will cut costs and allow a getaway.
>>98242543>If the floor can't handle the weight of a tank. The marine would have a smaller contact area, but building are designed to handle more than the expected load.You do not understand basic physics. The force of a tank is broadly distributed across its entire surface area and even distributed further by its treads. >The marine would have a smaller contact area, This is the key point dumbass. Drastically more downward oppositional force in a smaller contact area means something is going to give.>Think about how small the contact area of a rope over a wheel is.Have you ever seen what happens when a sandbag is lifted by a single midline rope? You stupid fuck?
>>98242118IDK I kinda just wanna do UMs. Not second company though. I see the appeal in making my own dudes but I also like the Ultramarines a lot. Call me basic but it's true! Also blue is my favorite color
In the age of piracy and 3D printing how the FUCK can I still not find a copy of Space Hulk for non-rape prices?
White Scars use this.
>>98242514serious answer is likely that the person drawing for the manual was using the same model, and they didn’t bother taking off the bayonet for that pose because it was still needed for the next pose. practically, it also might still be necessary if you’re caught off guard and aren’t able to hold your weapon the right way in time.
>>98242106Theyve made the latest 3 or 4 CSM kits all primaris scale anyway ( red corsairs, ec tormentors, raptors, noise marines). flawless blades are custodes sizes.
>>98242511>or have his spine collapse or knees explode no matter how strong or reinforced because he would need to exert an equivalent downward force.And said body parts can handle all of the stresses, they are genetically modified to be stronger in every way.
>>98242585NOT HOW PHYSICS WORKS.Do they just not teach Newton's laws in India?
I gave the barghesi cute eyes because its just a puppy.
>>98242564kek, also did you think of that comic off the dome, or were you looking up the physics behind picking up a rhino and that strip came up?
>>98242590pissing me off that others can have her, and I don’t. soon I’m going to find a dude who has a 3D printer, one to paint to post here, and another to hotglue in my free time.
>>98242590https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNv-tH0Vmik
>>98242590Also BL chosen. They just need the black highlighted.
>>98242553I mean I see several tons of steel get lifted over my head by a single cable multiple times a day.>you don't understand physics>that is the entire pointPick one. I know the point you were making and it was retarded.
>>98242589Physics do work that way.First thing that actually gives out is the floor under the marine, not his body.All marines are mini-primarchs, and Angron was able to lift a titan.A marine can in turn definetly deadlift and flip tank.
>>98242246>what kind of clusterfuck campaign are you in where you're regularly picking up normal weapons off your fallen comradesThe kind that are regularly depicted in Space Marine art. They are who the Imperium calls on when shit really hits the fan, after all.
>>98242446What does spirit conclave do? I don't have the book yet, but I've decided on an iyanden wraith army based on the lore wikis I was reading and the color scheme
>>98242246>what kind of clusterfuck campaign are you in where you're regularly picking up normal weapons off your fallen comrades because you're running out of guns faster than you're running out of ammo? any campaign with marines malevolent in it :)
>>98242589Stronger materials don't handle stronger loads?
>>98242464>Chaos gods would perish when mortals died out>Ravenous space bugs dependent on biomass to keep spreading won'tWho writes this shit?
>>98242246>what kind of clusterfuck campaign are you in where you're regularly picking up normal weapons off your fallen comrades because you're running out of guns faster than you're running out of ammo?Isn’t the imperial guard especially in the dark imperium always like this now?>>98242637This too.
>>98242514Okay, and what happens when the Jap who just jumped into your foxhole in the middle of the night is closer than full length of your 43 inch rifle and bayonet? Will you ask him to back the fuck up so you can point the spiky bit at him properly? Or will you strike him with the butt of your rifle?
>>98242652I demand sex with the Asian.
>>98242514It's because, after a guard or attack, sometimes your gun is positioned somewhere where shifting to a buttstroke is faster than shifting to a bayonet thrust, and bashing them in the noggin with the stock is still a really fucking effective attack.>>98242627>>98242644I get that space marines are tough, but bolters are pretty tough too, we know how they work and they're mostly just a big chunk of metal with few moving parts, so>99% of things that will break a weapon will also break the person carrying it.is still going to be true. I can see people grabbing guns off the dead after a battle to reissue them, but we're talking about picking these things up mid-fight to replace fucked weapons, and I just can't imagine what would destroy a guardsman's lasgun without hurting the guardsman carrying it so badly he doesn't need a replacement.Now I'm imagining what kind of IG regiment would ship their soldiers halfway across the galaxy only to have an Enemy at the Gates moment when they arrive...
>>98242673Considering how rapacious the Japanese were during WWII, you may not even have to ask.
Planning on starting a new CSM army for 11th. Are any of the Slaanesh daemon units worth taking as allies, at least in terms of fun? I'm kind of eyeing daemonettes and fiends in particular.
>50pt to 40ptAre Ancients good now?
Hello. I just wish to inform you that the person you guys apparently know as "decalfag" is now shitting up /coopg/, a /vg/ general about coop games. I just wanted to let you know that the presence of this person makes it really, really hard to not regret that one of the video games discussed in /coopg/ is a 40k game
>>98242724No take backs
>>98242724Sorry buddy but he's your problem now.
>>98242724good luck, that dude was here for 2 years straight, and only left after months of instabans by the mods. given how bad the moderation over at /vg/ is he might literally stay there indefinitely.
I went to my first tourney this past weekend, the Open in Edmonton Canada, and I can't believe how much fun it was. I just wanted to recommend going to these things for anyone who was hesitant to go because their lists weren't ultra competitive or they didn't think they had the skill. You will be with 250 people who you probably have a lot in common with, and will never hit it off easier with people in your life. Even if you're not the most sociable.
>>98242674>we know how they work and they're mostly just a big chunk of metal with few moving partsBolters need regular servicing to function reliably and can jam. The third edition rulebook mentions them having feeding issues with drum mags in particular. In prolonged, dirty combat it makes sense to me that malfunctions would occur. Not to mention the fact that Marines don't seem to carry many spare mags on their person and realistically would run out of ammo fast, even in a small firefight. I suppose that's more of a suspension of disbelief thing.
>>98242674>enemy at the gates momentAre you referring to the charge scene where they get gunned down for retreating from the Germans?That movie was awful and I still enjoyed scenes of it but I feel like I’m disrespectful of the red army for thinking of the 40k imperial guard when I see that scene.Another bad Stalingrad film is called “Stalingrad.”It’s trailer had a great dark take on Louis Armstrong’s “what a wonderful world.”Which I think might be oddly fitting for warhammer 40k if any song was to emphasize it funnily enough.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6K6qKJVU-wThe movie is dumb fun.But the trailer song oddly fits the tone of 40k without medieval Gregorian music stuff.
>open thousand sons list>no thousand sons>just tzaangors, robots, defilers, and magnus
>>98242797Based bird enjoyer.
>>98242764Yeah, it is funny how marines carry, generously, about 50 rounds of ammo. But I understand that's for model purposes.But can any marinefags explain what the fuck a "multi-directional ejection port" is and why a bolter needs one?>>98242774The IG's biggest inspiration is the Red Army, and I'm pretty sure that it's specifically the Red Army as portrayed in that movie. Wouldn't surprise me if one of the books had a 1:1 recreation of the "two rifles per soldier" bit from the scene you're talking about.
>>98242806>two rifles per soldierDamnit, I meant two soldiers per rifle.
>>98242797>open thousand sons list>there's maybe 30 sons at most in it
>>98242764>>98242806Firstly, and most importantly, this is a silly setting where not everything needs to make real world sense. Half the gun designs are nonsensical and could never work because Britbongs have never seen a gun in their livesSecondly, if you really want an in-universe explanation, it's said Marines keep extra mags in their large pauldrons. How plausible that is, is another question
>>98242806>But can any marinefags explain what the fuck a "multi-directional ejection port" is and why a bolter needs one?In the grim darkness of the far future, there are still some people that are left-handed.
>>98242808>open emperor's children list>only 1 emperor's child in it
>>98242806>what the fuck a "multi-directional ejection port" is and why a bolter needs one?I can only assume it's because the diagram is of a storm bolter and it is supposed to be ejecting brass from two different chambers out of the same port somehow.
Is every traitor primarch a daemon prince in the 40k timeline?I feel like daemon prince Alpharius would have a hard time pretending not to be Alpharius
>>98242763Tourney are generally a good time because there's usually a good mix of people that go into them, so you may have a rough first match, but by the second and third games you'll hopefully be playing against similar people to you.
>>98242764That just means the revolver mechanism for Bolt Revolvers is more practical unless more ammo capacity is needed. It doesn't operate on failure.Also drum mags sucking has been a problem forever. And bigger bullets mean heavier so pushing the bullet up into the gun needs better springs.
>>98242808>Facing Iron Hands army whose owner purchased the Iron Hands Upgrade Sprue>Entire army only has 2 metallic hands
>>98242797>>98242815Would a single thousand sons guy be a "thousand son" because that sounds really awkward
>>98242820Curze is dead, so no.
>>98242826Presumably the "thousand" means many much like how many old records say>Knows 1000 thingsbecause 1000 is a big number.
>>98242826He would be a Thousand Sons Marine
>>98242820nokonrad is deadhorus was giga dead with his soul obliterated but now it's kind of fuzzy whether or not he'll pull an archaon and come back for 40k end times crap when GW starts losing moneyalpharius/omegon are a ? (and should remain that way IMO) but are almost certainly not daemon princesthe rest are daemon princes and i have the assumption we'll get perty as a figure this edition based on his reveal earlier this year
>>98242763Tournies are good fun. I've only ever been to smaller RTTs but I've had a blast every time.
>>98242826>welcome brothers to the COUNCIL OF CHAOS step forward and state your legion>I am a Black Legionnaire>I am a Night Lord>I am a Word Bearer>I am a World Eater>I am a Thousand Son>yer a wot?>I'm a Thousand Son>a thousand wot? That don't make sense!world eater proceeds to get very agitated
>>98242763Yeah I remember going to an lgs over the weekend to pick up stuff.Maybe I’m lucky but I expected the place to be a cesspit but it wasn’t.People were very friendly 40k proxies were permitted.It makes me worried about being “that guy.”I think this place has warped my perception for the worst.
>>98242820Alpharius is dead.
>>98242414>>Muh Bael>>98242763>EdmontonOh no, this is a sign that teen pregnancies and polygamy are on the rise!
>>98242857this is a lie
>>98242864It's not, Alpharius died on the initial invasion of the Sol system at the hands of Dorn, after that Omegon took up the name, but the original Alpharius is dead.Also Dorn is dead too.
>>98242868If that's true then why am I Alpharius? Checkmate, loyalist.
>>98242857Who told you that? Alpharius?
>>98242884Me, when I killed him.
I am Alpharius.
And this is a lie.
>>98242631Spirit Conclave is the Wraithhost flavored detachment, and the one you're probably going to go with if you want to build a wraith army. It's got three pretty straightforward army rules>Wraithblades/Wraithguards get Battleline, so you can take up to 6 per army instead of just 3>Psykers get "While a WRAITHBLADES, WRAITHGUARD or WRAITHLORD unit from your army is within 12" of this model, that unit has the Battle Focus ability." (Basically they get to use the Eldar's main faction rule now)>Each time a Psyker model is killed, the unit that killed it gets a Vengeful Dead token. When a Wraith construct attacks something with a Vengeful Dead token you add 1 to your hit and wound rolls. Gameplan is you send a bunch of cheap Psyker units like Warlock Skyrunners into your opponent so they die and get the Vengeful Dead tokens, then keep some Spiritseers near your Wraiths to shoot at them so they get the full bonus. My list in 10th edition was something like this>Eldrad Ulthran >3 Spiritseers>2 Warlock Skyrunners>2 Warlock Conclaves>3 Wraithlords>2 squads of Wraithguard with Wraith Cannons>1 squad of Wraithguard with D-Scythes>1 squad of Wraithblades with axes/shields>a squad of Guardian Defenders>6 Windriders>5 Rangers>A wave SerpentWraiths got a big points drop in 11th so I'm gonna tweak the list a bit to include more Rangers and throw in Path of the Outcast for flavor purposes, probably subbing out the Windriders for Shroud Runners. I wanna get what I've got painted up first though of course.
>considering elf army, reading the lore>Ulthwe full of grimdark black-and-bone psykers fuck yeah>maybe get Eldrad and a bunch of farseers and warlocks and shit, and wraiths! lots of wraiths!>Seer Council sounds like the perfect rule set for flavor>look up seer council>the strategems specifically exclude wraithswhy it always be like this
>>98242909>maybe get Eldrad and a bunch of farseers and warlocks and shit, and wraiths! lots of wraiths!literally spirit conclave
>>98242900okay, thanks for the writeup. i really want wraithblades to be a focus of the list so its nice to know i dont have to stop at 3
>>98242909Use one of the other 8 detachments?
>>98242724All things aside, the thread quality in the last few weeks has been leagues above what it's been for the last two years ever since he fucked off. Yeah there's still the usual shitposting here and there but I'll take a once in a while shitpost spree over beating the Decalfag horse to death for the umpteenth time every day.
>like the ease of push fit for putting together minis quickly>hate the monopose nature of themMy autistic ass wants a second set of intercessors to paint as another chapter but I hate seeing them all together in the same pose. I hope this new layout replaces the current intercessor kit fast.
Does the regular kabalite warrior box include the kill team upgrade sprue now, or do I have to hunt down the actual kill team box?
>>98242927Spirit conclave isn't about the psykers doing cool things it's about pumping the wraiths and having these lone little spirit seers walking around in the back to buff the wraiths. It's not the same at all :(
>>98242927spirit conclave does nothing to support a bunch of farseers and warlocks, though. It's clearly meant to be built around spiritseers (all enhancements are locked to spiritseers). The detachment rule rewards you for basically sacrificing cheap psykers, like sending a warlock skyrunner against a unit to die and put a token on it. You don't want to do that with Eldrad and warlocks dethatched to a guardian blob.
hello frens I was just informed that 11th edition is out. I abandoned the game because 10th was so shit and I couldn't find anyone to play oldhammer with. is 11th worth coming back for or is it more of the same? is there a qrd of the major changes I can read anywhere? are terrain and mission rules still dogshit? does every unit still have a bespoke rule that defines how you use it? can flash gitz have a leader now?
>>98242797welcome to modern esports
>>98243030do you think that 10th would be improved with more rules bloat, higher lethality and more gotchas? then 11th edition is for you.
>>98242797Tzaangors are cool, but the only thing I would take thats in power armor in thousand sons are and would be my own personal kitbashed terminators that are not affiliated with thousand sons but are instead warped by tzeentch because magnus is a twink that needs to get his hole stretched by me.
>>98243030If you left for oldhammer, what makes you think newhammer will make you happy.
>>98243030>are terrain and mission rules still dogshit?Terrain I would say is improved, but that's a low bar to clear. Mission rules, it depends on what you're looking for. They're still very game-ified.>does every unit still have a bespoke rule that defines how you use it?Codexes are carrying over from 10th, so until the 11th edition books roll out that's staying the same, and there's no evidence to suggest they plan to change it. For what it's worth, a few more of the bespoke rules have been standardized as core rules, like surge moves (aka you shot me now I waddle d6").>can flash gitz have a leader now?At present, no, because as mentioned everything is running off the 10e codex framework, but being the non-marine half of the launch set Orks are due for a healthy chunk of new models we haven't seen yet so stay tuned, we'll know more in the next month or two.
>>98241264You’re thinking about it wrong.It was supposed to be tacticus/gravis/phobos:>Troops: Intercessors and Assault Intercessors/Heavy Intercessors/Infiltrators and Incursors>Fast: Outriders/ Inceptors/ Reivers>Heavy Support:Hellblasters and Infernus/ Aggressors and Eradicators/Eliminators and SuppressorsBut then they added those silly looking missile launcher guys, and then terminators and jump packs came back (thankfully because I think gravis is goofy and contrived).
>>98243043because 90% of people realize Oldhammer is worse than any modern edition
>Kasrkin platoon in a stormlord and 4 AFVs and 4 Sentinels would still be just 1500 pointsGoddamn man what's a guy gotta do?
>>98243069Older editions (pre-6th) are comparatively better in that they do a better job of being a war game, but aren't "good" in terms of being particularly good rulesets. There was tons of stuff people complained about back then that could have been improved but GW has failed to actually do any of that.
>>98243043well I don't have anyone to play oldammer with so it's between 11th being worth playing or continuing to not play at all.>>98243044my main complaints with the terrain and mission rules in 10th and newer editions in general is that terrain is just magic squares that you stand inside. it doesn't really block movement and half of the time it doesn't even block los, so after turn 2 both players are basically just parking their armies inside the mission circles (which are way too close to each other) and rolling dice to see who dies.
>>98243030It's got a few decent adjustmentsYou can probably find a couple summaries on War-ComTerrain rules are still bloated, mission rules are still dumbevery unit still has a bespoke rule that defines how you use it and that will probably get worse.
>>98243075>Older editions (pre-6th) are comparatively better in that they do a better job of being a war game,Thats the issue, being a proper wargame doesn't make you a better game as a whole. It'd be like when discussing FPS games, ARMA being more realistic doesn't make it a better shooter than Quake.
>>98243030Major changes>Detachments now have one of five Force Dispositions assigned to them, determining what type of gameplan you want to go with (Kill everything, hold objectives, etc)>Detachments now cost between 1-3 Detachment Points, and you have 3 Detachment points to work with when armybuilding in 2K point games (ie: You can choose a 3DP detachment or a 1DP + a 2DP detachment and use both)>Characters are divided into Leaders & Supports, leaders can go solo but supports must be taken with a bodyguard (Bannernobs can lead Flashgits btw)>Objectives are terrain areas now instead of just circles. Map layouts are designed around these, but you're free to use whatever terrain you got >Battleshock is persistent now, so if you fail the roll you don't automatically become unshocked next turn>Models are considered hidden until they fire first, so armies don't get tabled across the map on T1. Models are hidden until you get something within 15" of them >Charge Phase now has you roll first and then decide to charge into instead of the other way around. Charging unit has fights first Minor changes>Fly now lets you go over any amount of terrain at a single 2" movement decrease no matter how many times you go up and down>Aircraft have been reworked (again) and now go in and out of the board to do hit and run attacks each turn>Models 3" off the gameboard vertically get +1 BS when shooting down.>Heavy lets you move up to 3 inches now to still get the benefits>Deep Strike is now called Ingress, you can set up within 8 inches of a unit now instead of 9>Cleave is a new keyword on melee weapons, it's just the melee version of Blast>Pistol is renamed Close-Quarters, works the same>Indirect units fail to hit on a 1-5 unless both your indirect remained stationary that turn and you have a friendly unit that can physically see the model you're shooting>Unit coherencey is every model in a unit is within 2" of eachother within a 9" radius areaQuick sum-up of 11th.
>>98243102>determining what type of gameplan you want to go with (Kill everything, or lose to the guy who has to kill everything)
>>98243043>the undrilled barrel and mold lineKekaroo
>>98243102>Models are considered hidden until they fire first, so armies don't get tabled across the map on T1. Models are hidden until you get something within 15" of themIs that universal or just for models in cover?
>>98243115Just in cover iirc
>>98243115Have to be on an area of terrain with dense cover and not have shot in your previous turn. Hidden status is not just on turn one and can be gained as long as the conditions are met.
So how long do we think it will take for GW to backtrack and divorce dispositions from detachments?
>>98243111I know of the drilled barrel meme but I fear doing it because I fear messing up the drilling and the barrel is drilled off center.
>>98242724I'm so so sorry. No board should have to deal with his bullshit.>>98242937I'm honestly surprised he never got doxxed considering he posted a ban message with his IP address visible.
>>98243140late 2027, either A : there's gonna be a codex that is blatantly written with the idea of you picking dispositions and then its gonna be put in the yearly rules update or B : The community will do it as a popular house rule and GW will cave for one mission pack
>>98243084It entirely depends on your target audience.Arma is a better simulation shooter than Quake for people who want that immersion Quake is a better "competitive"/fast paced shooter than Arma for people who want skilled FPS gameplay 6th 40k is better for wargamers/storytellers who want a narrative experience and detailed simulation 11th 40k is better for compfags who want a balanced experience and slightly more streamlined rules (although rules bloat has unfortunately replaced detail of simulation)
>>98243084Being a proper wargame makes you a better wargame. Newer editions are not good wargames or good games in general. Your comparison isn't apt because Arma and Quake are fundamentally different. Nobody would claim Arma would be a better game if you removed reloading and weapon sway and added lightning guns and quad damage pick ups even though that would make it more like Quake which is a good game. It would make it a much worse milsim and it wouldn't suddenly be a good arena shooter either.
>>98243109Killing everything isn't always the best plan for the kill everything gameplanI play knights and my opponent went and killed all my armigers going over the max score early and fucked himself over because he couldn't kill my big boys after so he went 3 turns scoring 0 for purge
>>98242962It's on the webstore, just need to go to the killteam section.
>>98243165>Being a proper wargame makes you a better wargame.We could say it makes you more like a wargame, the question is why is that inherently good.
Where are the scans?
I feel like my list is pretty shit, or middling, is there anything I can do to fix it? How do you usually win with chaos? How do you deal with other armors?Veterans of Long war1k points >Chaos Lord>Master Possesions>Cult Mob>2x Legionaires (5 man each to try and spread pressure and hold home)>Rhino>Chosen>Venomcrawler>Obliterators>PossessedI also think take and hold sorta just sucks but I also want to think it’s My B. What detachments do you recommend with this list? Perhaps a change of disposition and rules could help.
4 player 40K is pretty funMy doom scythes somehow managed to whiff every single shot on the Hekaton doing less damage to it than my Hexmark, meanwhile the krieg guys on horses killed the winged hive tyrant with their spears
>>98243178>why is a wargame being a wargame inherently goodTruly a mystery for the ages.
>>98243195We are speaking of a "true wargame" which is apparently inherently a simulation
>>98243193Just posting photos because I'm going through some folders of my games from the last year or so
>>98242378spread unit out so that theres a huge bubble where deep strikers can't deploy.
>>98243193Is that a 4 player free for all, or a 2v2?Because everytime I've ever seen a multi person free for all it usually ends up with the last player being dunked on and not having much to alive by the time they get their first turn.
>>98241264There is a Gravis Apothecary. They just called it something weird.Bigger question: When do we get a Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack outside of Legends?
>>98243203>>982432062v2, Necrons + guard vs tyranids + votann
>>98243208>2v2Hell yeah, I've played a couple of tournies like that with some mates and theyve always been a blast.
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So on top of the irl games you can play for the Battle of Deathmire. Taticus is also hosting an event and the results of the event will go towards if we can save Deathmire or not. I am kinda bummed cause I thought my Local GW store was going to be doing games so I could use my guard to fight to save Deathmire. But the guy working there just told me to record my game at home which is kinda of boring. I am now hitting myself for not getting some orks so I could run some 1k games of guard vs orks with my wife. So this Taticus event is the closest thing I have to help play a run in the story event. I have an awesome game store, I might try and get a game there if I can find an Ork player.
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>>98243203>>98243211That looks like a fun game and I love the paint jobs on the Necrons.
>>98243102>leaders can go solo but supports must be taken with a bodyguarddid they unfuck commanders and crisis teams? it annoyed the shit out of me that we went from 5 editions of 3 man teams to suddenly having 4 man teams.
>>98241680"hobby"
The Weirdboy is a really cool model design wise, but whoever thought of doing a push fit miniature with all these flimsy dangly bits should be charged with a crime.
What are the chances of this Deathwatch strike force?
What do you guys think about the Necron battleforce that's coming out?I just started collecting and only have a combat patrol.
>>98243246>first thing an anon does after waking up is samefag his low effort shitpostgenuinely sad
>>98243298There’s a good amount of overlap with the Combat Patrol, I would only get it if you really like those models.
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>>98243317I guess that's enough encouragement.I'll need more Necron warriors anyways and I like the look of the Doomstalker enough to not mind having two.The rest of it is all new to me.
>>98243365>>98243365I look like and sound like thisYes I collect SOByes I jerk off to SOB
>>98243365the amount of neo-puritan seethe emanating from this lmao
>>98243365What's even more pathetic than the porn addiction is the deflection, like >>9824337940k has plenty of babes, you don't have to put boobs on everything.
They misprinted where Armageddon is within the galaxy in the imperator book, so now there's a real and a fake Armageddon next to eachother.
>>98243379>people who obsessively post transgender primarch art have problems >neo-puritan!
>>98243394>>98243398look at how the newfags seethe when called out lmao
>>98243400meant for >>98243367>>98243379
>>98241264inferior chart to original
>Alpharius Omegon is not one person but two>Most people are unaware of this, even during the HH, even among the daemon primarchs>One is dedicated to saving humanity from chaos, the other saving humanity from itself through chaos>Each twin will pretend to be each other and even have underlining pose as them>We outsiders cannot tell one from the other in any moment>Their chapters iconography (when its used which is not always) is of scaled serpents>Serpents which have endless symbolic meaning of treachy, trickey, malicious manipulation, rebirth, renewal, change, immortality >Both primachs are dead in the HH>There is a fan theory that GW may have meant to imply but forgot about with Gulliman being replaced by Alpharius (or Omegon)>Also at least one death of Alpharius at the Ultramarines that the Ultramarines themselves have no record or memorary of>Omegon was the first primarch re-discovered by the Emperor/was never taken in the first place by the chaos gods>Raised in secret as the first primarch but leads the last founded legion>They are called the Alpha LegionAlpharius and Omegon are the most interesting primarchs because we know the lest about them. They have the Kaathe and Frampt dynamic as two serpents trying to guide (you) to their own end but its humanity as a whole>Ultimately they are a chaos space marines force>But they have no head option for the new deflier
>>98241264>>98243406pointless tracking compared to this
>>98243411Lame and gay.
>>98243405>n-no uevery time with you newniggers this board started out as /d/-lite, you tourists will never change that
Kinda sad the lastest codex retconned WB and NL having the same homeworld
>>98243379>He felt called outLMAOyou can't make this up
>>98243417>bro doesn't know the difference between homeworld and current base
>>98243420>u-umadat least you've skipped to "I-I was just pretending to be retarded" already
>>98243417>Current base of operation:>Cato SicariusFinally, his big head grew to possess gravity
>>98243379found one
>>98243379You really upset the twitter tourists with this one
>>98243438warhammer high would have destroyed their minds.
>>98243411I always figured the most likely direction for the canon to go was that Eskrador was a genuine fuckup on Alpharius' part and Guilliman killed the real Alpharius in that battle, and afterwards Omegon permanently adopted his dead twin's identity.
>>98243281Pretty high considering 10 of them mogged a bunch of harlequins and eldad himself.
The Emperor hand-crafted each Primarch for a very specific purpose and role before the great fetus yeetus messed everything up.My headcanon is Guilliman was designed to be really good at doing his taxes.
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>>98243412I really want to get a fatass heavy destroyer. I don't have a necron army but I want to start one and I really like destroyers.
>>98243412I'm glad GW was smart enough to split wraiths into two units after they revamped them back in the 2010s.Not a fan of the skorpekhs but I like that they fleshed out destroyers.Not all new is bad, after all.
>>98243479I like Skorpekh for further moving Necrons away from a humanoid body plan. 40k would be boring if its just power armoured humans fighting 'aliens' that are humanoids with blue/ greenskin or wearing power ranger uniforms.
>helhunt lance>take a knight abominant and lancer>octagram of conjuration on abominant, throne tyrranicus on lancer>rest of army fill with wardogs>don't roll dread, pick dominion>12" bubble of assault around the lancer, 12" bubble of handing out battle shock tests, lancer can hand assault to abominant>abominant hands a battle shock to something it shoots and something it sees, and every war dog should be able to hand battleshock to something it shoots>between scouts, advancing, and a 12" bubble for deathly terror, stalkers should be able to tag both the leadership debuff and if needed detection onto your opponent We'll see how much battle shock tests matter this edition.
>>98243281The Eldar are absurdly outnumbered here and the Watch Captain has already engaged the Avatar. The Eldar are losing horribly here, they can maybe take a few Intercessors down along the way but their chances of actually winning are zero.
>>98241679A bog standard marine can turn your head into the complete absence of a head with a single punch, Sgt. Harker would widdle himself at the mere thought of having to fight a Marine.
>Use end of last edition to hype up Iron Warriors>They've already lost to the Iron Hands of all peopleLmao this shit is pathetic
Lets say you want to take a Phoenix Lord, say Fuegan, and paint him different colors than normal.How would you justify that, considering there's only the one of him, he has a known color scheme, and a big thing with phoenix lords is they always wear the exact same armor that's even passed down between incarnationsWould you just pretend it's not Fuegan but like his cousin Nageuf who happens to have the exact same abilities
>>98243568Iron Hands versus Iron Warriors is a weird one. Like they're kind of a mirror match with no actual lore connection to each other.
>>98243197No, it's inherently what it is. I know this is a difficult concept for you troons to grasp, but things which more properly embody what they actually are are better than things which embody that thing less well. If you have two cheeses which are supposed to be cheddar and one is very much cheddar while the other is only a vague approximation, the first one is better than the second. Period. End of. It's why when people look at you they'll always see a man.
>>98243571I wouldn't.
>want the new marines from armageddon>DO NOT want the speeder, vanguard vets, or the chaplainbuying off ebay while cost me a fortune in shipping where I live. I'm crossing my fingers that once the "hustlers" in my country realize everyone else is trying to flip each half of the box, they'll start selling off the individual components.
>>98243578I'm personally just gonna wait for the multipart kits.
Iron Hands
does anyone here paint Imperial fists? I saw pic rel and I like this dark ochre-y yellow. I like it more than the yellow GW uses which is a little more lemon-y. I also don't like red for the imperialis. black looks much better but I will use dark red for any capes or tabards I struggle to glaze the round parts of space marines and i don't like the look of edge highlighting so I'm trying to leverage my airbrush and hopefully find a quick and easy way to do the yellow on batches of terminators and other infantry.
>>98243578I kind of want the land speeder and the chaplain, just to try to convert them. But I wouldn't pay more than absolute bottom dollar for them so I'll have to see what people end up selling them for too.
>>98243571>Xenos characterLiterally nobody cares what you do paint wise. They wouldn't recognize him even if painted properly.
>>98243571he could always decide to paint it a different color. the armor is still the same that was passed down, but he decided to touch up the surface to his personal liking similar to how the president redecorates the oval office.
>>98243571For some reason, I feel as though I've seen an axe just like Fuegan's in an Artix game.
>>98243553>absurdly outnumbered>not a single dead eldar
>>98243571It's wishy washy sci fi armour, it can change colour
>>98243574>>98243165>Being a proper wargame makes you a better wargame.Ok lets take a step back here. Being a better "wargame" absolutely does not make for a better war game.
flags!
>>98243597Do you not see the 3+ maxed out squads of Marines in the background?
>>98243591>xenosAlright they may be aliens but they shouldn't be lumped in with orks, tyranids and necrons. Eldar are practically the deuteragonist of the setting after the imperium, and the two have worked together many times.
OK let's assign Chaos factions to the unaligned Chaos legions>Night LordsSlaanesh>Iron WarriorsKhorne>Alpha LegionTzeentch>Word BearersNurgle>Black LegionMalal lol
>>98243606Isn't the whole point of Eldar that they're always outnumbered but rarely outmatched, that's why they have this zip-around-the-map fighting style to minimize casualties.
>>98243591it’ll matter to me, damnit.
>>98243613>>Word Bearers>Nurglewhy you gotta do them like that
>>98243613You're a fucking retard.
>>98243617Doompreaching is a big focus point for Nurglites, of all the unaligned chapters they're the best fitAlso Borgar has been stagnating for a long time
>>98243620>Also Borgar has been stagnating for a long timeBut he's been stated to be crusading ever since the rift opened.
>>98243621No no no they said cruise-aiding. He's been assisting his fellow devotees on a lazy river ride
>>98243620>BorgarThere's a dude named after a hamburger in 40k?
>>98243609>Eldar are practically the deuteragonist of the setting after the imperium, and the two have worked together many times.Wrong and heinously so. If the other xenos don't want them that isn't the Imperium's problem.>>98243615No, their whole 'point' is to be a dying species incapable of winning in any great capacity because of how doomed they are. The Avatar is the perfect example of this, considering he's literally never won a major fight.
>>98243606Do you not recognize they are fighting at a shrine on a Craftworld?
>>98242546It's from a Black Library novel not headcanon.
>>98243630Do you not recognize their color scheme? It's Biel Tan, whose most famous battle is them LOSING on their craftworld, and horribly at that.
>>98243606I do, but I also see dying marines but not dying eldar
Imperium and Craftworld Eldar should unite into a single empire.Legitimize the union by having Guilliman marrying Yvraine and then having Emperor marrying Isha after she is saved from the clutches of Nurgle by Leman.
>>98243637The imperium needs to unify itself first, same with the eldar.
>>98243634Yeah anon and like I said, they'll probably take down a few Intercessors before they all get gunned down.
>>98243626>No, their whole 'point' is to be a dying species incapable of winning in any great capacity because of how doomed they are.I have the strangest feeling there are dying races across all of sci-fi who do it better than Eldar constantly failing.
>>98243643To be fair most of those don't have a full on God willing their destruction into reality.
>>98243637Do the Eldar deserve to be happy?
>>98243642It sure doesn't look like it or there would be dead eldar already, how close do they need to get before those intercessors turn deadly?
>>98243637y'all niggas jump on a nigga saying 40k is noble bright and then turn around and make posts like this. for shame
>>98243655Hey the Guilliman Yvraine ship didn't come from thin air, GW did that.
>>98241624Marine bolters are also supposed to be gene-locked to the owner.
>>98243658They had like a single conversation in the novels, there's no ship there.
>>98243662B-But muh looting bolters from dead allies!!!
>>98242868i fucking HATED the retcon that came after this in the HH alpha legion novella. That omegon was the first brother found and originally alpharius.Thus omegon is actually really is alpharius, and always was.
>>98243662just poor enough blood on it and it'll work, that's what Argal Tal did to use a custodes weapon.
>>98243584Vader is an IH librarian.
>>98243667for ever 1 cool bit of Alpha Legion lore it's dragged down by 3 other things that's just retarded.
>>98243665So you're saying there is a possibility of a relationship?
>>98243665Shippers see any form of interaction between characters as justification that they totally want to bone one another, they work with what they get.
>>98243686as much as there’s a possibility of a relationship between you and the cashier you see at mcdonalds everyday, yes.
>>98243695So there is a chance?
>>98243692I think them never meeting might be even better ship material than them actually interacting once. if they never meet, you can conjure in your mind that if they did they’d build a wonderful relationship together, but if they met once or twice and it was completely professional/cold, then you have to perform some mental gymnastics why they didn’t seem to like each other whatsoever when first meeting.
>>98243665He's talking about the Thanksgiving poster GW made. Where Guilliman was sitting at the end of the table like the father of the family would, while Yvraine is the wide putting food on the table.It most likely wasn't their intention, but that certainly pushed the whole Guilliman x Yvraine stuff further on.
>>98242710You tell me
>>98243701I think they knew what they were doing
wip on my emperor’s childrendo you think I should paint the plasma green or purple?
>>98243701>>98243730You only see what you want to see
>>98243701Yvraine x Girlyman has been a meme for like 10 years and they just acknowledged it in a funny picture. That's hardly "pushing it".
>>98243658>Hey the Guilliman Yvraine ship didn't come from thin airIt did, or rather there's nothing thin about the people vomiting ships.
>>98243731I'm leaning into purple... but are those armor panels supposed to stay green? I could see an arguement for green if not
>>98243730Think its just a one off joke about some of their most revent big releases. Like the ones of Vashtorr going trick and treating the year he came out
>>98243734>they just acknowledged itthey really didn't, do you think any of these pictures is an acknowledgement of anything other than the fact these are characters who have featured in recent products?
>indirect fire can still hit hidden units
>>98243750>characters who have featured in recent products>Yvraine and harlequins
>>98243737that makes sense, he’s definitely the least purple heavy of them, so making it purple will even things out, thanks!
>>98243730a fucking ork died for this>the other orks when they see this
>>98243770Good.
>>98243770eh, orks eat ‘umies, ‘umies eat orks. all is fair in love and waaagh
>>98243761Gathering storm, dude, wake up.
>>98243776le le nonce artist ecks dee XDXD
Since we're on the topic of Yvraine. What's she up to atm? I know very little of the nu-Eldar lore. But she got a really nice mini
>>98243794Nowhere. Ynnari just exist now, doing nothing. They got demoted from the main storyline for eldar to being basically just a background subfaction that lets you take some dark eldar units.
>>98243776I like his take on weirdboyz handlers/gaurds. Aluminium foil to counter psyker stuff is peak orkiness
>>98243806Uh... wow...Did Eldar get any proper lore after that? or didn't enough people buy Yvraine?
>>98243794Everyone abandoner her and her faction is essentially non-existent, at least until they try to push it again this edition since Ynnead is TOTALLY happening this time! All they have to do is beat Fulgrim!
>>98243730Witchhunter and templar finna boutta gonna trail of tears those witches
>>98243816Eldar have done literally nothing for the past 10 years except for the end of last edition when Yriel picked a fight with Huron and got completely BTFO for it.
>>98243817Jeez, gl Ynnead. Nobody is out gaying Fulgrim of all queers.
Reminder of that time a single Ork took down a whole genestealer cult, a titan, and a stompa.
>>98243816>Did Eldar get any proper lore after that?Eldar have basically been absent from the larger "story" for almost 10 years now. After GW buried Ynnari, they haven't done anything with eldar besides just making some books where they get shit on for real reason.>or didn't enough people buy Yvraine?The issue with the Ynnari was that they weren't even a faction really.The idea flopped because GW only released Yvraine, Visarch and Yncarne and then did nothing with them for years. Not even an elite squad kit that could've been Yvraine's bodyguards or something.It's like if GW made primaris, but then only released Calgar in gravis armor, a generic primaris captain and then a Repulsor tank. Of course primaris would've flopped then too.Also another factor is that the Ynnari story line was being written by Gav Thorpe. You know, the guy who hates the eldar and regularly shits on them in his books.The Ynnari Trilogy, was so fucking shit and badly received that GW cancelled it after the 2nd book. It's the series where we get dumb shit like an eldar craftworld INTENTIONALLY infecting themselves with the genestealers in an attempt to stay safe from Slaanesh, it's also the same craftworld that somehow had an AVATAR OF KHAINE, a warp construct made out of molten lava and metal, which isn't even organic, got infected by a genestealer and it was somehow also the fucking genestealer patriarch too.Even though that makes 0 sense based on how genestealer life cycle works.
Reminder of that time a single Fire Warrior took down a whole regiment of Steel Legion and Stormtroopers, a warband of Word Bearers and a Lord of Change.
>>98243859I wish this game was canon
>>98243847To be fair the boss nicked his hair squig
>>98243859Honestly this game should be remade, everyone kind of loves the meme of a fire warrior getting plot armour like that.And just any alien warrior on a pile of human skulls is fucking sick . And right hand tracing the skull where the tau would have their nasal slit and its just smooth, showing how *alien* humnans are to it is so good. The artsitic skull fingering really makes this cover
>>98243859 it's quiet. reminder gw added a "THIS DOESNT REPRESENT CURRENT 40K" disclaimer to the re-release, like they're ashamed of older 40k
>>98243859I like to think that Khorne just ignored everything else going on in the galaxy while he was supercharging that guy for giggles.>G'WON MY SON TAKE SOME FAAACKIN SKULLS
>>98243857I have no words really...Do people make fun of Yvraine on the TT?
>>98243895>Do people make fun of Yvraine on the TT?for that people would actually have to put her on the table and nobody does that
>>98243895Yvraine is only ever run on TT to give access to the Yncarne
>>98243662how is it supposed to ID their palm prints through an inch of armor
>>98243948the armour is shaped like their palm printand they cum on their hands so the gun picks up the genetic material when it's heldbasic stuff
>>98243956>out of ammo>nearby dead brother has his bolter to use>gotta give his dead ringer a quickie to unlock the DNA scan on itWhat the fuck astartes players? Mind explaining this one?
>>98243984maybe it just checks if you have the same geneseed or something, so dudes from the same legion can use each other's bolters and shitor maybe taking a brother's weapon, even a dead one, is considered less honorable than just whipping out your knife or whatever.
should I buy a tactical squad for all the bits?the MK4 box is soon and I want some variety for my red scorpions, no site seems to have the bitz I want in stock
>>98243895She's fine there as a unit. I haven't heard much complaints.However when Ynnari as a faction first introduced to the tabletop, they were hated because their rules were OP shit. Which obviously didn't help with their perception.
>>98243905You don't need to run her to put Ynarne in. Didn't need to in 10th, iirc didn't need to in 9th. Yncarne isn't that good in the first place, ever since he lost halving the damage and the ynnari detachment got nerfed to shit anyway.
>>98244008If you like the old HH mk4 plastic kit you should get one now, yes.
>>98241935>The Chaos that QUIT>The Chaos that almost got FIRED and is on defacto PROBATION right now>Totally predictable "Chaos" poor excuse for an Aussie homocollabs are not chaosThe only Chaos there is Peko and it ain't even close
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>>98244060That's not a human, that's clearly a primaris marine.
What gsc detachment(s) would you use for a 1k point game?
>>98244060This looks like a piece of the gun broke off in his right hand and now he's looking at the broken gun like "oh shit well now what do I do"
>>98242514That's step 2 after a stab attempt, the butt of the stock is being thrust upwards not forward. The rifle is spinning in that example.Stabbing thrust.Swing butt stock up after pulling out to knock their head. (It's known that they will not die the nanosecond you stab them and they need to be knocked down)Third step is swing the blade back down or hit them again with the butt stock on top of their head if they're in a sitting position.
>>98243885To be fair, the game came out when the Tau were REALLY new and a bunch of the things that happen in the game no longer make sense (for example it ends with your Fire Warrior 1v1'ing a Lord of Change). Like half the worldbuilding from the tie-in novel is straight-up impossible now.
Would a SoB player get mad if I used SoB+Agents codex to represent a human+marine gear army?
>>98244094I feel like this is throwing b8 out for another marine height autism argument
>>98244094I dont understand what you mean by human+marine gear
>>98244095Nah. I bought a bunch of mk2 marines for chaos and since 11th dropped I might pivot to SoB codex.
>>98244096Sisters of battle are regular humans in marine gear. What if anyone was inside the armor carrying a bolter.
>>98244100Oh I get you, just regular dudes in power armour.Yeah, anyone can wear power armour, only the marine armour is specific to them.Regular humans can wear terminator armour too.
>>98244105Thinking a world that was fitted out to make old heresy era objects could have knights and MKII armor. I think a centerpiece knight or armigers would look nice with them.
>>98242986when I was playing spirit conclave, 1 or 2 spiritseers max. spirit seers cannot effectively support melee wraith units because 1, they’re slower than lords 2, they can get left behind in the charge phase and 3, support melee means losing the lone OP. for shooty boys, sustained hits does nothing for your d scythes when I was playing spirit conclave, a guardian/farseer/warlock brick was my combat wraith support. nasty flamers make an overwatch threat, lots of anti infantry shooting to clear screens, and shockingly durable with -1 to wound and -2 to charge. ultimately I abandoned spirit conclave to play seer council, where, in my opinion, d scythe guard and wraithlords still have play. You don’t have infinite cp/strands of fate, some units that don’t rely on your strats to perform is valuable. >TLDR: psykers of all flavors are valuable and important in spirit conclave lists. you need expendable ones for actions and wrath tokens, you need durabl(ish) ones to keep your wraiths effective>>98242998the tokens *are* nice, but if the only psykers you’re running are spiritseers and skyrunners, I think you’re setting yourself up to fail. both of those units are comically fragile, your opponent can use pretty much anything to kill that unit, so he choses where your wrath tokens are going. furthermore, if you run out of psykers, you’re only breaking even with the wrath tokens and you lose battlefocus. at least one farseer/warlock/guardian brick brings a lot of value to the army, and I run one of those and a eldrad/warlock/guardian brick. going into the new edition, the conclave/guardian points decreases offset the eldrad increase. I think spirit conclave is more interesting now, and I will play around with it. all the key units got cheaper or stayed the same, but the detachment rule still kinda sucks, the enhancements are bad/too expensive, and the stratagems suck.
>>98243571he doesn’t have a “known” scheme because the old model had a dark red helmet, dark faceplate, gold gun, and green scale talbard. it’s craftworld eldar, we don’t get lore, paint your elves however you want, pic related
is there a reason to ever pivot your models outside of squeezing them through terrain gaps considering you can shoot and move in any direction without pivoting i guess there's like a niche case of "your unit's ranged can shoot 2 feet and right now the corner of my rhino is 23 inches so i'll pivot to get it out of range"t. owns no vehicles
>>98243216The last week will be the in-store only week. Obviously, people will write in Orks anyway regardless of results because they want to see new ork stuff.But who knows? Maybe the Space Marine side of the Armageddon box was so bad that it's reverse-psychologied people into wanting to see more marine sculpts so they can cope that they've got some new cool stuff.
>>98244164Vehicles used to have to spend a lot of extra wasted movement to turn corners in the old rules, the new free pivoting was basically made just to fix that one exact problem.Now if you move, pivot, move, you can turn corners with less movement spent. This is more noticeable the longer and skinnier your vehicle is.
>>98242266Bring both. Cult Mob is just unbeatable since they have sticky, especially in 11th since people will have line of sight on you on objectives all the time if they’re within range. But Traitor Guard, especially with an enforcer char, is a totally valid unit in its own right, especially in 1k games where you need more granularity. Keep in mind with the changes to wounds and saves, the enforcer basically grants the whole unit 5+ invuln (and 4+ FNP if you’re a gambling man,) unless you get shot with precision. Also the guard rule was changed to having +1 to saves when within range of objectives so it doesn’t overlap with benefit of cover. Also the enforcer still grants free overwatch, that also doesn’t count toward the stratagem, so you can use it again on another unit.
>>98244069so far I've tried out Heroes of the Uprising AND xenocult masses together. I love the neophite big shooting blocks, so being able to have them regen even further, along with rerolls to hit from the strat is good fun.I have the inclination though that heroes of the uprising and Purestrain would go together better though, as big angry genes in smaller games do even better.Have you tried out much?I want to use my brood brothers or Final day too, but haven't had a chance to yet. I'm a bit skeptical on being stuck with the brood bro take and hold missions.
>>98243743>Think its just a one off jokeWhich prettyv much killed off Eldar as a relevant faction.
>>98244234your porn fanfictions did not influence the release schedule, anon
>>98244241you can't prove that
>>98244241>your porn fanfictions did not influence the release schedule, anonThen explain why the Warp Spider Phoenix Lord is a woman
>>98244252It draws from older porn fanfictions of ancient greek, certainly not yours.
Lame https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ysvas9bc/embolden-your-guardsmen-with-ciaphas-cain-rules/
>>98244164>>98244191Pivoting in 40k is such a convoluted and unnecessary thing. It really feels counterintuitive and simply unnatural. How do other games solve this? There must be a simpler, more elegant solution.
>>9824231Grey granite castle ruins with snow.
>>98244260Jurgen is not even a token?Also what a boring set of rules. Specially for something that is going to be Legends anyway.
>>98244260heheh... butt...
>>98244267I think that quest thread is dead anon.
>>98244266I mean older editions you could basically move by doing 360. The thing was that facing matter and since facing does not matter in newer editions we have this mess.
>>98244260I mean it's flavorful enough, it weirdly feels like they made it as flavorful as they could while still being competitive, yet they still shoved it into legeds.
>>98244260look how happy this guy isyou wish you were this happy
>>98244269>Jurgen is not even a token?he's part of the same base
>>98244287SEX WITH KAYLETH
>>98244241It did however influenced Rise of Ynnari series sales and Psychick Awakening lore,
>>98244260>unparalleled luck doesn't have a time limit, so RAW it just sets his save to +2 foreverWhy is everything written like this now, is there a standard time limit now that I haven't noticed?
>>98244302For some reason the site with the news used this image first.
>>98243662That's a storm bolter, which are much more elite weapons only used by veterans, usually only Terminators, and genetic identification doesn't mean the specific code of the wielder, it could be the genetic code of the gene-seed grown organs meaning it works for any Marine with the same Primarch
>>98244269>Jurgen is not even a token?Can you faggots please fucking read. Its right fucking there.
>>98244298This is literally me. Yes, I hide the pain with a smile.
>>98244287I love Dawn of War II so much it's unreal
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kbdkr6ir/the-big-summer-warhammer-preview-tune-in-on-friday/It's disappointment time again
>>98242001Girls only play Tyranids!
>>98244340Exodite Kill Team let's goooooAlso I hope we get a big Necromunda expansion soon, it's been awhile since Hive Secundus
>>98244364>Exodite Kill Team let's goooooYou might be right, they did mention "scale"
>>98244364>it's been awhile since Hive SecundusMalstrain Patriarch when>>98244356how would he know
>>98244310>>98244260I am once again asking for nuvalhallan in the style of jurgen.
>>98244340In the article it's just a codex reveal, so don't expect much for 40k>we’ll even catch a glimpse of the first Warhammer 40,000 Codex of the new editionNo idea what or Kill Team Necromunda will be
Please more new sisters
>>98244375>it's 1 dragon rider vs catachans
>>98244453>>98244453>>98244453
>>98244165Do people really not care about the lore and are just motivated by model releases? I thought Yarrick would at least get people involved into the lore.
>>98243298It's plain bad. Everything except the ophydians were in starters or the old hachette imperium magazine meaning they were super cheap.Serious talk about how much you can get the contents for:Warriors x2: $10x2 CCB: $40Doomstalker: $50Flayed ones: Just kitbash 5 warriors so $5Total: $115So at RRP $230 the question is if you want to pay $115 for the ophydians which are RRP $65 (also ophydians suck)
>>98243571>Nageufkek
>>98244094SoB Terran Marines?
>>982434144chan broke before /tg/ did.
>>98244416Me and the bois tomorrow
>>98241229>TQStill waiting on the mission cards
