Do you think GW made the Space Marines canonically sterile/eunuchs because they knew what the obvious implications would be of a bunch of super-powered, near-unkillable men with god complexes running around would be once they turned Chaos?
>>98246713I think lore doesn't matter for playing the actual game, and you should kill yourself.
>>98246713How often do you think about being raped by space marines, OP?
>>98246740About as often as normal people do
>>98246751Well, that's not true because normal people never think about it and you thought about it at least once because you made this thread.
>>98246776In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. But only the cool-looking marketable parts, so people don't have to think about the actual consequences.
>>98246793Don't try to pretend you were arguing for setting versimilitude in your thread about space marine rape bro.
9 out of 10 doctors recommend masturbating before posting.
>>98246838Yeah, nah, you're right lol, I just think it's funny how they sidestep the whole thing as if it's not the absolute first thing that would happen every time a marine turns traitor otherwise. Like it's one of the first things any group of men does when given a gun IRL, imagine if they were also super powered and had infinite stamina>>98246843I wish that fixed whatever the fuck is wrong with me
>>98246713You don't think Chaos will give them their libidos again? Or they won't find shoving things into an obvious and very taboo orifice very funny?
>>98246905I’m pretty sure there’s a BL novel where the Emperor’s Children have like demonic rapewolves that they can plug a tentacle into and they get all the sensory feedback from the rapewolf raping.
>>98246905That IS pretty funny. It would also be funny if they got their libidos back, but their dicks still didn't work, so they just got angrier and angrier
>>98246713Ian Watson's Chaos Child covers this. >>98246921Its pre BL. >>98246925>where we're going we don't need dicks to fuck
>>98247232Now this is the kind of demented, lurid bullshit missing from modern 40k
>>98246740Not as much as I should be
>>98247258I haven't read Fulgrim - The Perfect Son, which appears to be the most recent EC book, or the lucius one. The Fabius bile stuff was okay but didn't really get into the sort of debasement. There's a few new chaos marine books about word barers and night lords, hopefully they haven't totally neutered it.
>>98246713lore's only function is marketing to move product. So the answer to your question, as far as GW is concerned, is to buy their products.
imagine a daemonculaba made out female space marines, this is why woman must undergo hysterectomy(among other things) to become space marines
>>98247558"Fulgrim - The Perfect Son" is boring and badly written. Only a few good scenes about combat drugs. Didn't read the Lucius books... I think it's sad that we dont get those weird-ass nightmare-sex scenes for EC and Slaaneshi factions - doesn't have to be ALL rape but maybe a little?
>>98246727if the game was fun in and of itself you wouldnt feel the need to use models, you would just play it with colored beads to represent the units. but thats obviously not the case. the lore and models are the enjoyable part, the game is terrible and exists soley to justify the consumption of them in the minds of adult men.
>>98246713I mean a lot of this is the general winding-back of grimdark.When Chaos Space Marines have a trophy rack, do you ever see mutilated women or children on it? No, it's always guys.When Slaanesh-themed forces take people alive, you never get intimate details of them raping the shit out of women. You also don't have stories about Sisters of Battle getting violently raped and having to improvise a bayonet-abortion to get rid of a cultist's child,A lot of this is just the 'decency filter', it ain't The Second Apocalypse
>>98246713emperor's children canonically have dicks and they play with them, the only impediment is they can't have kids- they can still rape.
>>98248788>You also don't have stories about Sisters of Battle getting violently raped and having to improvise a bayonet-abortion to get rid of a cultist's childAfter the siege of vraks, they found surviving captive sisters from the original garrison in the dungeons, they're so broken they have to euthanize them so it's only implied how much abuse they suffered throughout all those years
>>98248812Yeah, but it's not explicit.
>>98248788>Second ApocalypseHoly shit now that you say it they should definitely hire Bakker to write EC/Slaanesh lore
>>98246853There are 100,000x as many human Chaos Cultists as there are Space Marines. You don't actually care about "realism" or you would've considered this already. You're really just barking up the tree of wanting to get torn apart by a supersized cock. Warhammer sidesteps almost all sex in its lore, and the longterm sexlessness of the setting it is one of its notable and unique qualities. One reason why religious fags can't be gatekept from it.
>>98246713>once they turned Chaos?Why wait for that? They would be a race replacement for humans if they weren't sterile. Chaos, even when it gives them wombs, tentacle dicks or whatever, is not structured enough to bring forth anything truly new.
>>98246713To take a bait post seriously, I always assumed the sex drive pathway was co-opted in the production of marines, because they don't need to worry about passing on their genes (there's apothecaries for that), and it means they can crave something desirable in a supersoldier.Humans have the biological imperative to survive and reproduce. Astartes have the biological imperative to fight battles and gather honour and glory. Survival, while strategically important, is not a biological imperative for a fully fledged marine.Gives them a little more inhumanity to play with.
>>98249027>You're really just barking up the tree of wanting to get torn apart by a supersized cock.Okay, yeah, you've rumbled me. :) >>98249108I also do like this angle to be honest
>>98247811>VaginaNo way fag.
>>98249336Because sustainable novelty arises from the expression of complex (Ordered) systems, whereas Chaos results in a temporary flourishing of abortive offshoots, before collapsing into regression to the mean, which is the void.
>>98249761Entropy is unavoidable, and the interaction between order and chaos is outlined perfectly by the principle of Yin and Yang.In the traditional formulation, the ordered side is the dominant, because rules, standards, and consistency all lie within the domain of order; and the tools of order are the tools of dominance.Chaos overturns order temporarily, and establishes short-lived antithetical states, which inevitably collapse, because they are not based on sustainable orderly motives.Nature itself is the balancing scale.A stultified order that loses it's principles, invites in Chaos, which unmakes that order, and lays the ground for a new order to arise.That is the cycle of strong and weak forces.
>>98246713You can't take a full grown human and modify them that heavily without severe complications. They'd look like monsters bursting out of their own skin and their junk atrophying would be the least of their worries. Most would just die on the table without breaking bones to allow for growth or replacing most organs with artificial ones. I think it would actually be pretty cool to have some 'realistic space marine' alternate models.
>>98248788>When Slaanesh-themed forces take people alive, you never get intimate details of them raping the shit out of women. If you actually cared about verisimilitude, you'd wonder why they aren't raping the shit out of men as well. And probably the house pets, too. But no, you only mentioned women being raped, multiple times. This just shows that you're only interested in your rape fetish, not the tone of the setting.
>>98249867>t. recidivist
>>98250012>they don't usually start out with fully grown humansLast I read, they do, but each chapter has their own criteria they look for on their recruitment worlds. Like how the space wolves look for who has the biggest earplugs and funko pop collection, then abduct them to make them even bigger and gayer.
>>98246713Post models.
>>98246727The lore is 40k. Be real, nobody gets into 40k because they're interested in the gameplay of the tabletop game, which was only ever meh at best while being horribly overpriced. Most fans I know stopped playing "the actual game" a long time ago, because it's just straight up bad now.
>>98250094>gay groomer jokesI’m surprised that accusations of homophobia from that part of space marine lore haven’t been thrown at GW about this yet.I know I would have made that complaint about warhammer 40k if I was still in my pre teen era sjw phase.>>98250175Is this an LLM that targets 40k threads with this phrase or a wannabe janny?
>>98250400>I’m surprised that accusations of homophobia from that part of space marine lore haven’t been thrown at GW about this yet. I mean, there's literally nothing in the setting that suggests it's meant to be a gay stereotype, and space marines are hypermasculine, which also doesn't lend itself to that interpretation. >Is this an LLM that targets 40k threads with this phrase or a wannabe janny?There are plenty of anons who accuse everyone who starts a lore discussion of being a secondary or tertiary. They're often not wrong. The question is whether /tg/ should be 80% lore discussions and 20% actual game discussion, or if we should make an effort to be about actual games. But given that the jannies don't do anything about it, it seems the decision has already been handed from above. >>98250372James doesn't give a shit about the lore. To be fair, James also doesn't give a shit about the game. James is a plastic seller. The lore and the game both only exist to move merchandise.
I think that reading about Dirle Marines would be too uncomfortable for most people.Writing would probably be equally bad or much worse.Unless you are one of those weirdos into guro.
>>98246713A Space Marine is like twice as large as the average foid, they wouldnt even fit.
>>98250606Space Marines are like gorillas.
>>98249983>This just shows that you're only interested in your rape fetish, not the tone of the settingYes, but not from the side you think
>>98250175Sure here ya go, haven’t painted in years but got back into it and decided to see what I could do with just the army painter starter set and free model. Need to clean up the brown a little but w/e
>>98246713Literally not meant to reproduce naturally, so big E could control their population (and eventually get rid of them like the thunderwarriors)
>>98250742>not even 40gay
>>98246713I doubt that considering Emperors Children are a thing, its more of a case of helping to show how detached from humanity they are along with connecting more to their inspirations of various knightly orders that had no sex allowed rules (granted they brokes those rules but you get the point)
>>98250500>There are plenty of anons who accuse everyone who starts a lore discussion of being a secondary or tertiary. They're often not wrong. I don’t really want to post a painted model as it might mean an unhinged schizo stalker.I did it I think twice one was unpainted and the other were some badly painted models I plan to strip and the first time the wannabe disappeared and the other tried desperately to save face. So if it is an llm it isn’t trained to handle actual model pics.Seen a wojak posted that is self contradictory in the texts it has posted that I think the llm is trained to post when anons demand it to post models first.Now I do think that warhammer stuff should go in their generals, but then one realizes that the generals can be quite the mess.So far no janny is enforcing an “all warhammers stay in their general rule” but i do wonder what would happen if an anon gets janny powers and actually tries to enforce that.The other llm is just spamming “traditional games” on nearly every thread. I’m pretty sure if I make a thread asking about whether there are ai bots being tested here then they would get deleted quickly.
>>98246713?In the lore chaos give the Space Marines monstrous penises and sex drive to rape entire planets.
>implying that Slaanesh can give boobs, vaginas, tentacles, hooves, extra eyes, magic powers, etc but not dicksThey ARE raping people anon.
>>98246713That's exactly the reason.
>>98248288>Didn't read the Lucius books...The plot is thin and its PoV cast is a little packed. The prose also gets a wee bit purple. But it has some flavorful descriptions of EC doing drugs and suffering withdrawal, so there's that.
>>98246713>Space Marines canonically sterile/eunuchsremember from old fluff Space Wolves fucked, and IIRC able to create children
>>98249983And you know why that is?Because only women getting raped counts. No-one cares how many men or animals you kill, but crucify one woman and *that's* unforgivable.
>>98249965I always felt like failed astartes could be good CSM shock units, same vein as captured/slave astartes. Armour and weapons taken from them so they're near naked and used as cannon fodder by their enemies
>>98247232Came for the Ian Watson reference (pun intended) and was not disappointed. To be honest, seeing astartes through lens of autistic man children explains a lot especially with the hubris of the great crusade.
>>98246713>once they turned ChaosThat's just normal space marines.
>>98246853>it's one of the first things any group of men does when given a gun IRLSorry you live in africa
>>98246713There's a bit in Lords of Excess where one Emperor's Children marine is blowing is squadmate and "removes his brothers excitement from his mouth" before asking him about the upcoming mission.
>>98256161mother fucker I read that book, that shit ain't in there
>>98257734Yeah it is
>>98246713I think they did it to avoid having a bunch of horny nerds constantly asking them questions about space marines' sexual habits
