Previous: >>98242217Tiamat Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What are your thoughts on tutors in the format?
>TQDepends on the mana cost.If you're tutoring before turn 3, why didn't you just mulligan for your wincon?
>>98246881Most of the tutors are fine and flavorful but Black being able to search anything for just 2 life is really stupidly OP and needs to get banned
>>98246881>TQ: What are your thoughts on tutors in the format?People who dislike tutors are massive baby shitters
>>98246881>tqTutors are fine in a singleton format. They can help decks run smoother. Some are stronger than others, but that's a meta powerlevel consideration. If tutors are fucking you that much it's a sign you should run more interaction.
>>98246881>TQ: What are your thoughts on tutors in the format?I'm for them, because when I started playing you couldn't play with strong cards like that, so I like em. I only put the good ones in my bracket 4 decks. I like not having any, or a few janky flavorful ones in the lower brackets. It's a singleton format so not being able to grab whatever makes the decks have more variety and requires you to build the deck tighter because of it.
>>98246881>>TQ: What are your thoughts on tutors in the format?Lame as fuck. Why play a singleton format if you're just going to tutor out the same cards every single game? Go play 60 card Magic if you wanna have those kinda games
>TQI don't like when half the deck is filled with them, but a couple to help you find a creature or equipment piece you like is really understandable and fair
Got mail today. Last of the talismans I need to complete the set along with other good stuff.
>>98246967Why play a singleton format when you're putting your most important card in an automatically reaccessible position?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98246881>qottTutors are fine, it's no different than running to redundant card functionality. Creating deck consistency is a hallmark features of tcgs and if you get mad about it you're a shitter and you should feel bad>>98246892>why didn't you just mulligan for your wincon?My point exactly, you would only say this if you were retarded or baiting. I put the tutor in so I don't have to mulligan
>>98246997>Tutors are fine, it's no different than running to redundant card functionality>searching your library for the exact card you want right there and then is the same thing as having functional reprints in the deck that you need to get lucky to draw????
>>98246691As much as I want this and as much as you can just throw names at the color pie and come up with some bullshit that sticks, DBZ is a terrible fit to MtG.Not that artistic integrity really matters, I'm sure I'll be playing the Habzin Hotel set soon enough anyway.
>>98246986well that's the gimmick of the format I like non edh highlander / canadian highlander but nobody plays that around here so I don't have any paper decksin defense of EDH though I do think building "around" a single legendary is very flavorful and inspires people to make specific decks, but I also think that building "around" one legendary + one other card that you put ten tutors into your deck to hit is way, way less flavorful.
>>98246881Tutors are the reason the format only works with a shared draft pool, thrived in kitchens and garages, and will return to the void in a decade when WotC milks its last drop in Super Star Surge Supreme Candy-Gravy Foils.
I have the urge to build a B1 deck that can slot tutors to become B5 in as few cards as possible.
>>98247048What the fuck is Canadian Highlander
>>98246881>>98246881>I le defaced le OP with advertisements for my le furry porn commissions again OwOFake thread, not /tg/, shan't use.
Oh Shanty...
>>98247025>in the deck that you need to get lucky to drawHow does the tutor get into my hand retardkun?
>>98247040>DBZ is a terrible fit visuallySo was Avatar and we did that.
>>98247057Then it isn't bracket 1.Bracket 1 is>I took my marvel pre-release deck and shoved in 80 lands to make it 100 cards
>>98247048Singleton, 100 card deck, and 4 players are all just as big gimmicks as the command zone.I think tutoring is part of some color's identity and an encouraged part of the game. Tutoring out the same gay combo is dumb. Tutoring your lands, or stuff like tutoring a tribal? Totally fine. Tutoring is only gay if people tutor infinite combos or gamechangers. If they're tutoring a Timmy battlecruiser and you complain, you're just a faggot.
>>98247126>tutoring when it does nothing is fine>tutoring in ways that meaningfully advanced the game state is BADDoes your lgs make you play at the table with rounded edges with the other retards?
>>98247113Extremely stupid logic it's breathtaking.
>>98247144Stupid because you're mad I'm right or stupid in ways you can actually articulate?
>>98247141If your deck only has one wincon and you have to run tutors to make sure you can get it out every single game, then you are a bad player and everyone hates you.
>>98247126>Tutoring your lands, or stuff like tutoring a tribal? Totally fine.Actually unbelievably wrong.Tutoring lands is exactly what is wrong with the game. The primary reason everyone runs 3-4 color goodstuff slop piles is because colormashing has no downside. A fetchland should be treated just the same as any other conditional tutor. It's that they're ignored that caused the death of the format.
>>98246881Finally a TQ I can waste everyone's time rambling about!The main strength of tutors is not that they're an extra copy of a specific card in your deck (usually the wincon), it's that the tutor can turn itself into the best card in your deck for the emergent situation at any time, whether that's being a proactive piece (your wincon) or a reactive one (the best answer to the current board). Tutors don't have to compromise on what they are because they're basically wild cards, which can cause them to end up undermining a part of the format a lot of people like, which is that large deck + singleton usually forces people to run cards that are not as strong as the strictly best option for its function.I think wishboards/wishes, especially in the context of EDH where they would still need to respect the singleton rules, are a bit of an interesting solution to this. Wish cards are generally considerably weaker than their equivalent tutors, and on top of that you generally only want to use them for reactive options, since you would rather put a proactive card in your main deck and have a chance of hard drawing it, implicitly pushing wishes towards being locked into more niche reactive options.
>>98247167>then you are a bad player and everyone hates you.So building consistency in my deck makes me bad because I don't rely less on luck than you? Is running more draw than you bad too? Am I bad player because I run cards that are actually good and I can play on curve with some consistency?
>>98247141Getting lands or your tribal pieces doesn't do nothing. It just doesn't instantly end the game like some combos can. If someone wants to tutor out their planeswalker pet card, are you really gonna throw a hissy fit?
>>98247182I don't know how you could extrapolate any of that from my post. Are you retarded? You should include more than one wincon, retard-kun.
>>98247195>I don't know how you could extrapolate any of that from my postIt's the logical conclusion of what you're saying, but ig downies aren't great at logic. You're the one inventing the mythical 1 tutor + 1 wincon player btw, if it's so bad why are you so threatened by it?
now this is a proper unproductive shit fest just like we know and love /tg/ for lol. thanks for the TQ, OP!>>98247175I stopped running fetches not because it's op but because it's boring, if I was super fast at searching and shuffling hundred-card piles I would maybe start running them again but I'm not. as a bonus I don't run tutors either lol but none of my shit is stronger than b3
How would you go about building this?
I don't run value engine commanders and I still win more than 25%, so I'm not sorry.
>>98247229It's easy when you've seen every episode of /edhg/.
>>98247229>if I was super fast at searching and shuffling hundred-card pilesTake the riffle-pill
>>98247236Fight cards seem pretty nice in this
>>98247236go really wide and then beg the table to cast blasphemous act and refuse to explain what the card does and cover the text box and get angry if someone tries to read it
>>98247236I proxy it with better art and it goes in my GWx decks.
>>98247236>only once per turnMy first, immediate thought was casting some cheap indestructible dude and putting Lure on it, then sending him out to attack someone with a ton of creatures. All combat damage happens at the same time, right? So if 10 creatures all hit my one dude at the same time, will she trigger for the total combat damage and deal that much to any target?
>>98247289>that image>your postgoddammit I'm such a sucker for stupid bullshit like this
>>98247294I actually really like the art. Also pops nicely in foil.
why the fuck is this 60 dollars?
>>98247320He's a new Necrons commander
>>98247320jumpstart mythic
>>98247325I FUCKING HATE JUMPSTART
>>98247325>jumpstartoh goddammit fuck off with this shit again
>>98247347>>98247333Get rekt sloppafaggots lmao
>>98247347Pretty much every decent card in the "set" is locked behind jumpstart ensuring they will be very very inflated in price.
>>98247236Fights and creatures that want to take damage I'd say
>>98247167I run plenty of tutors in my Sliver Overlord deck that runs only two actual slivers in the 99, exclusively so I can find effects like pic related and abuse all the Boros Reckoner type effects out there and spam red board wipes. Am I gay?
>>98247376AntiVenom doesn't work, it's a replacement/preventing effect that doesn't allow damage
>>98247378No that's actually kinda clever. Bonus points if you run all the Blasphemous Act cards and also my lil buddy here which will double all your Boros Reckoner effects
>>98247412Still seems like it would be good in a fight deck even if it doesn't synergize with the commanders effect itself.
>>98246881tutors are usually just someone saying they need two copies of a card for their deck to work. if you need two rhystic studies for your deck to work you must really suck at this game. i respect people who tutor in order to make toolbox and hatebear strategies better.
>>98246881I don't mind them if they're on theme, like running Fabricate in an artifacts deck to grab the card you want for the momentComboslop is gay tho
>>98247320He's the best Necron commander
>>98247420Yes that is exactly what I do with that deck, that's one of the two Slivers I actually use alongside pic related. It's really great, everyone expects you to be doing some lame Sliver tribal whenever I whip it out but it is in fact board wipe tribal. Also the new Guildgate tech is really underrated, highly recommend. Basilisk gate has gotten me surprise commander kills and Baldur's Gate has gotten me surprise Torment of Hailfire dubs multiple times now.
>>98247464Necron's aren't so popular as to make him that expensive.
>>98247449This. Your coin flip deck does not need krark's thumb and if you think it does then you suck. I shall not elaborate.
>>98247325Yeah, that's it. Jumpstars always suck. The fact this fuck is so expensive is ridiculous. These shits need to be reprinted as soon as possible or else they explode.
>>98247542Jumpstart masters in 2028
>>98247547Jumpstart Horizons
>>98246881>TQI don't run them because I want to shuffle a 100 card pile as little as possible.
I don't play tutors to make sure my deck works. I play tutors to make sure *your* deck doesn't work.
>>98247562Absolutely unfathomably based
>>98247562Respectable, my king
>>98247569>>98247582Thank you, I try. Also fuck Sol Ring players in particular.
>>98246881>TQI don't have a problem with them, but I typically don't run them because I don't know what I would get. I don't play much combo, and when I do I'd rather get the pieces by drawing half the deck.I do own most of the good black tutors and have been wanting to make a deck specifically to put them all in, but haven't been able to come up with an idea for it.
but have you guys considered actually PLAYING jumpstart?it's pretty fun and also your odds of pulling some random role-plyaer rare or uncommon that's selling for $10+ is quite high. I broke even on my $90 avatar box thanks largely to pulling a Toph. did I mention it's fun?
>>98247588I bet the treasure token spammers love you.
>>98247660Can confirm. I get salty as FUCK when something like that drops. Completely fuckin rekts my favorite deck
>>98247657I don't even know what jumpstart is it's just the thing that makes cards I want retarded expensive
>>98247657Me playing it isn't going to make shit cheaper desu
I want this deck to be better, but it's my favorite shitty deck.
>>98247660It's for the equipment based Voltron fags mostly, but yeah.
>>98247665Thankfully my treasure deck is built around Reckless Fireweaver effects. It'll slow me down not being able to get the sac triggers, but I can deal with it.
>>98247668okay but if everyone played it then they would be cheaper. also it's fun. have you considered that?
>>98246881>TQI'm a sucker for a good tutor toolbox package, turns them into a sweet swiss army knife for a variety of situations.
>>98247690I cannot force others to play a thing no one has an interest in playing. Do your friends just do anything you do? What is it like being a main character?
>>98247690If everyone tried playing that then all the cards from it would get even more expensive. . . Supply and demand, dude.
>>98246881>TQOnly acceptable if you're tutoring for a specific card/small group of cards that ypur deck revolves around, and I don't mean combo pieces.
>>98247698there's lots of main characters here who think the world revolves around them, including the furfag who makes these edh threads
>>98247320>mythic>jumpstart exclusive>wins outright by just milling yourself
>>98247781It's the first two. It would max at 10 dollars otherwise
This is what printers are for.
>>98247781syr konrad is better at the milling thingthe card is expensive simply because it's jumpstart, no other reason
>>98247657It's fine but I prefer regular draft or sealed.But I don't care either way cause it's ubslop and even if it wasn't, I'm a proxyfag.
>>98247795>i'm a proxyfag>but i pig out on limitedfunny
Is this card fair and balanced in the age of FIRE design?>Land Reform>mana cost: W>Enchantment >At the beginning of your upkeep, search each of your opponents decks for a basic land card and exile it. For the rest of the game, you can play those cards from exile.Fair or OP?
>>98247671Have you tried giving him lifelink instead of deathtouch?
>>98247798pig out?limited is fun
>>98247799I could see it if you only did it once, but every turn is too much.
>>98247805>uw limited is fun>ub limited is badshouldn't you be in your dead containment thread?
>>98247803Just what exactly do you think Basilisk Collar does...?
>>98247810but I'm not the guy who said I was a proxyfag, I think every limited format I've played has been fun except maybe Spider-Man pick 2 draft
>>98247798Limited is fun and it's very difficult to get anyone to play it online with digital cards. Really doesn't function with proxies outside of cube, but even proxied cubes are still hundreds of dollars.So yes, I will go to the in-universe prereleases and the rare draft if my group plans for it. If my friends buy a booster box we'll phantom draft that, which is the best for me cause I (any everyone else) feel zero compulsion to raredraft.
>>98247814>all the cards in the colomn grant deathtouchThat's incidental, I mean replacing the deathtouch equipments with lifelink ones.
>>98247821you can have 5+ proxy edh decks for the price of a proxied cube, and if you're willing to skimp on print quality the price goes down significantlyyou're just making excuses for spending on limited, which is where wotc makes the bulk of their profits, piggy
>>98247810It's not a containment thread, it's a resort, time away from ubshit.
>>98247832>it's a resort!is that why you're here when it's UB season?
>>98247830>1-3 prereleases a year>maybe one draft (3 packs)Truly such a piggy.Also I don't give my dime to chinaman for my proxied decks, so they cost pennies. FUCK doing that for a fuck cube, and FUCK paying chinaman hundreds of dollars for one too.
Thoughts on laminating decks? It's like proxying sleeves.
>>98247830>which is where wotc makes the bulk of their profits, piggyNTA but not even closeThe margin is entirely in collectors shit
>>98247834It's always UB season. I don't require a vacation right now. I am also in the other thread, but as you said it's not very active, sadly.
>>98247827Deathtouch is superior to lifelink in Oros, redditor.
>>98247839Why proxy sleeves though when they cost nothing?I get using it to protect you ca4ds or because it's all you have, but sleeves are cheap.
I wish I could partner Othelm with Silas...
>>98247836>1-3 prereleases a year>maybe one draft (3 packs)~$150 is also what a casual could easily spend on commander for their favorite IP but muh piggy amirite?>but casuals actually spend more on ub in practice!so it's bad not because it degrades "the spirit" of mtg (whatever that is, picrel) but only because it sells better than uwslop? kek
>>98247845>gain a billion life>people don't necessarly jump on your commander cause they might have some stuff that lives and it keeps tokenfag in-checkvs>everyone at your throat immediately>game is opressive and slow cause no one can play anything unless they have an answerMaybe you don't play games for fun?
>>98247848$12 matte sleeves for my $25 for every jank bracket 1-2 bulk pile I throw together...
>>98247836Prerelease sealed is the most fun format for me besides edh. I simply skip the UB slop sets that don't appeal to me aka all of them besides lotr.
>>98247861100 sleeves + box comes out to less than 5bux each. I've been using these for years and they're perfect
>>98247858I said 1-3 because I don't touch in universe sets that are obvious hot trash. I am okay with, but not particularly fond of, buying cards for limited in sets I like that promote the game I want to see mtg be, in order to play limited. I would prefer not to buy anything, but I like limited.And it's bad because it denegrates mtg, mario kart set where theyvtirned valgavoth into a gibbering retard very much included, yes.
>>98247866I own a few of those boxes and they fucking suck lmao
>>98247862going to the hobbit?>>98247866Is there any extra room for tokens and dice and stuff? I'd rather patronize the LGS when possible but this is very tempting.Speaking of which, is there a good place to get tokens on the cheap? Like actual MTG card tokens though, even if they're generic. I have dry erase cards but it's just not as nice and I don't like taking the five seconds out of gameplay to label them either. The LGS doesn't have a bulk tokens box and I'd like to beat MPC prices if I can manage
>>98247860>If you kill your enemies, you lose.
>>98247862Based, same. Draft can be really fun too, but everyone needs to be at the same skill level.
>>98247873well what's wrong with them? don't leave it at that
>>98247875>any place to get tokens?Amazon sells bulk too. Also as your lgs, they might.
>>98247860>Maybe you don't play games for fun?>well, griefing with winconless removal.dec is fun...>no, not like that!why playing games to win is ultimately the correct way
>>98247877>...your friendsCorrect.
>>98247875>Is there any extra room for tokens and dice and stuff?Dice? Eh not really. Haven't tried though honestly. Tokens? Yeah 50+ easily. I've got a few decks that spam treasures/bloods/eldrazi spawns/whatever and those decks have several dozen tokens in the box with the sleeved cards
>>98247887if they are sore losers they are fair weathered friends at best
>>98247892>If I'm an asshole and my friends leave, it's their fault
>>98247910>killing people with a 6cmc summoning sick dragon that telegraphs what it's going to do from the cz in non-ramping colors is assholeryyes i'm sure killing people with something like aesi is peak fun for you
>>98246881Actually building a Tiamat commander deck! Love themed decks!
>>98247922I built him because I opened that card in a booster box, but it wound up being boring because I'd just search for the same dragons every time. The version in OP's image is the one I had, the art is sick.
>>98247236Shoot the shit out of your own guy, instantly kill one of the guys sitting across the table from you ask if they rike it
>>98247947>HimTiamat is a girl that femdoms Bahamut
>>98247798>NOOOO BUY MY 60 DOLLAR ULTRONkys
>>98247875>going to the hobbit?Definitely, I want Smaug for my dragon deck, but I am expecting peak woke wotc race bending in the rest of the set, especially the dwarves. I am pretty good at sealed and usually get atleast top 4 at my LGS and win a fat stack of packs, that's another reason I like prereleases. When I was younger I used to suck and never won bonus packs at these events. Now I'm old and good at the game, especially compared to all the noobs who have flooded in recently.
>>98247832No it is indeed a containment thread.
>>98247955>buying pre-seeded packs to build a 40 card deck bad>buying wotc's version of cube goodvery funny
I proxy my decks to be fun.I proxy my cube to be fun.I am having fun.
Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy protagonist, which version should I build?
>>98247983Left is a bad commander but a great card. Right is a fun boros deck.
>He builds his deck for power and not for fun
>>98247987Playing with powerful cards is fun
>>98247987No but you don't understand! I'm only having fun if everyone else ISN'T having fun!
>having standards for the box/sleeves you put your fake magic cards inLOL, rubberband that shit you fags. You're not fooling anyone.
>>98247986>Ragavan is a bad commander>guaranteed mana in the command zone and occasional card advantage starting turn 1 is bad??? Ragavan is powerful as fuck
>>98247987competitive players know how to power down and do goofy stuffcasuals can never be capable of playing to winwe are not the same
>>98247952>flashes in blazing sunsteel
>>98247992Why isn't he ran in cedh if he's so strong?
>>98248002>rating a card based on the worst possible way to play the formatlol
Nice format you've got there.
>>98248007all i see is an advertisement that GCs work
>>98248015>sol ring not on the listThey don't work.
>>98248019sol ring will never be on any list btw, sheldon's wisdom will live on forever
>>98248002Because Rograkh exists lolRog is a free red commander that enables a ton of busted cards and also can play other colors besides red
Does anyone actually run this card? It seems extremely strong, but I've never seen it played and it's never in any builds.
>>98248028>enables a ton of busted cardsLike what?
>>98248029I have it in Zada.
>>98247992His weakness is locking you to monoR. In cEDH basically any deck with under 3 colors needs to be able to threaten a game win nearly by itself.
>>98248033guild artisanjeska's willdeflecting swatfierce guardianshipmox amberculling ritualflare of duplicationphyrexian tower>and when you kill him he can serve as escape fodder for underworld breach before going back to the command zone
>>98248038can't forget diabolic intent
>>98248033All the 'free if you control your commander' spells, all the sacrifice-a-creature spells, and also stuff like Mox Amber that ramps you into combo lines super early
>>98248040also
>>98247947Miirym + 4 more dragons>>98247953Also Bahamut's sister. Hot.
>>98248029Godo plays it to try to go all in and win the turn its played
>>98248047If I had a nickel for every time WotC made incestuous dragon deities a major component of their fantasy worldbuilding, I'd have two nickels.
>>98248058Who is the second? Still would.
>>98248059Ugin and Bolas.
>>98248062Oh! Twins even.
>>98247965look bro you can do your anti-proxy shit all day but i am proxying these 50 dollar jumpstart cards.
>>98247987>Dropping a strong creature isn't funNot how I feel when Absolute Virtue comes out turn 3.
>>98248029I run it in my Ashling, Flame Dancer storm deck. He wins games if he's allowed to live.
>>98248002He's in the 99 of every cedh deck with red in it that wants to go fast.
>>98247236>Once each turnIt's dead Jim.>tfw we'll get a card name referencing that by the end of the year
>>98247983Run right as commander and put left in the deck
>Try to explain to my friend that EDH was way better back in 2012 before all the powercreep set in and Innistrad block was around>He comes back with some bullshit Azami deck that draws his whole deck in one turn and wins from Lab Man>Asks what the problem is before saying his deck was all cards from Innistrad block or earlier
You ever been gang raped by a thousand of the same guy?
>>98247289Checked the rules and the one time rule means only one instance of damage can be reflected.
>>98248365Sounds like he absolutely beat you the fuck out lmao
>>98246881Tutors are acceptable for low-mid power decks with creatures/spells that have extremely limited support and redundancy. If you're a comboslopper digging for your wincon or your archetype has 10+ pieces of efficient redundancy available you're just being a tryhard sweaty bitch that needs to go play a 60 format.
>>98247236Pariah+lure+entagler effects. Send things out that must be blocked, block all enemy attacks, direct all damage against you to a completely uninteractable creature. Very slow though and starved of support so you will be tutoring the hell out of your deck to get one of the handful of lure effects they actually have in the game.
>>98248399Only in my dreams
>>98248427I asked this here but I'm still unsure: >>98247295>All combat damage happens at the same time, right? So if 10 creatures all hit my one dude at the same time, will she trigger for the total combat damage and deal that much to any target?Pretty sure that is exactly what would happen (assuming no first/double strike stuff)
>>98248477Combat damage all happens at the same time, but the way it works is it tries to trigger the ability multiple different times, and you have to choose which one actually "goes through".
>>98248488...Fuck. So you really would have to do shenanigans like this. Oh well
>>98248493Whenever you see a card with "once per turn" you must temper your expectations and be prepared to accept heartache.
>>98248365out fucking skilled
>>98248365That friend sounds so damn based
>>98246881TQ:>Pic related>Hm yes I will cast an Elvish Visionary>(Search search) This is taking a moment>Okay, I reveal Bogle. Does anyone want to cut? I might NOT cast it after all>Okay, I'm going to put Bogle on top. Elvish Visionary enters. I draw a card.>I cast Bogle.>(Search search) This is taking a moment.>Okay, I reveal Shardless Agent. Does anyone want to cut? It actually matters this time.>Hmm yes I cast Shardless Agent. Before I cascade I would like to use Momir's green ability.>Hmm yes, there's my Priest of Titania hm but I don't know whether I want to go for that or Heritage Druid. Hmm I think I will weigh my options. Hmm. Okay, Heritage Druid.>Would anyone like to cut?>Okay, I cascade into Heritage Druid and tutor for a green creature. I think I will go for Eladamri.>(Search search) Hmm He's in here somewhere...>Oh, wait, he was on the top this whole time! Silly me! Oh well, it's not like I knew I was going to draw into him. You guys have been cutting my deck. Speaking-of, cuts?>Okay, so my storm count is five.>I put Eladamri in my hand. I still had a blue trigger, remember?>Okay, I cast him. Hmm, I really need something to untap my guys. I'm running low on mana. I think I'll go for that Priest of Titania now.>(Search Search Search) Hm so would anyone like to cut?>Okay, I put Titania on top. Would anyone like to cut?>Anon you just cut my deck at an illegal time so I'm afraid you're disqualified from the game.
>>98246881Tutors that cost mana are fine.Fetchlands should be banned in every constructed format.
>>98246881Why are tutors predominantly associated with black? Not even equally split between black and blue. White can't tutor for shit, it's like it has no education system.
>>98249004Honestly, nowadays it seems like green has the worst tutors, which it should since green has too many braindead value engines.
>>98247074Late butEvidently "canadian" means 1v1 and "highlander" refers to singleton decks. It's 1v1 noncommander with a normal life amount. I thought the "highlander" part of EDH was a reference to the multiplayer part, and/but I remember Canadian EDH being a 1v1 ruleset with no sol ring (and lots of rafiq).
How cringe is it to run the bullshit expensive cards like true duals, mox diamond/chrome/opal, etc?
I'm glad we got this capeshit set. Now I can just drop the game, thanks wizards
>>98249083Please stay for Bolas's Rectum Fracture set.
>>98249066If it's a higher-power table, not very.If it's bracket 3 or lower, VERY.
>>98249059>highlanderis refering to the singleton "there can only be one" deck building restriction>>98249066cringe if anything below casual/low-3
>>98246997Right, right. You put the tutor in so you can mulligan for the tutor, instead.
>>98248955It's okay that nobody responded to my hilarious post.That's true to the reaction I get when playing Momir.
>>98248038>Infernal Plunge
>>98249083See you tomorrow
>>98249066Not cringe at all. Moxen barely give you an edge unless you're running combos where you draw your entire deck and you NEED mana positive cards to continue the line.
>>98249234>not cringe at all unless you're running some combo i find cringeWhy do you think people run busted cards retard
>>98249250Reading comprehension. I didn't say the combo is cringe.You are running the combo: you don't care about brackets.You are not running the combo: a mox probably has the worst $/winrate ratio out of any $10+ card you could put in your deck so nobody else should care.
>>98249083If you haven't dropped the game before this you were a poser anyways.
>>98249285And yet one can, in fact, care about combos and brackets at the same time, players have been trained to be legalistic to win games since 1993
>>98249234If they don't give you an edge then why are you running them?
>>98247983Right as a blink threaten deck sounds really fun, actually.
>>98247470This sounds sick. Got a list?
>>98249083If you care about UB and you didn't leave when the walking dead dropped you're a retard. This goes for everyone crying about it.
>>98249091It's actually the return of the Jacestice League because Maro won't let his cringe idea die
>>98247983Me too brother. Love him in my Abdel Red deck. Can sac the creatures to Street Urchin.
>want to make theft deck>refuse to play against theft decks
>>98246881>Wincon is (card type)>My answers are also (card type)Thus the dilemma with tutors presents itself. The majority of tutors in this instance are not restricted to only being used for one of these things. Even if you deliberately only use a tutor for one of these two functions, the knowledge that, by game rules, you were permitted a larger blowout that you transparently sandbagged can undermine the experience.Also Sunforger decks aren't clever. They're annoying and the person playing one always whines if you exile it.
Reminder that sheldon never whined about tutors and thought rhystic was a fair card, therefore they will be with us for all time
>>98249623I wouldn't stop there. I'll argue Sheldon was objectively right about everything and that it was only after the plebians polluted his untainted vision by forcing him to bow to their demands that the format got worse. The whole P9 should be legal because they're just some extra resources. However Beacon of Immortality and Test of Endurance are TOO STRONG to be allowed.
Behold, the most powerful nonbasic land this format has ever seen.
>>98249700>does nothinggr8b8m8
>>98249700>>98249799I know a guy who plays this in every deck and never missed it.
>>98247120Avatar at the very least presented a world with different powers that could cover most of magic's color pie. Black was the obvious loser since it has no element to connect to and that sucked, but the other four colors mostly had good flavor hits. Avatar also marks one of the only UB sets where green didn't feel like a weird parody of itself and was actually in touch with nature and the natural world instead of "LOL MUTANTS!!!"How do you do a DBZ set mechanically? Everybody flies, everybody shoots energy blasts, everyone transforms, and everybody punches really hard. So mechanically nearly everything's got flying, everything is big or can get bigger via counters and flip transformations, and some there's direct damage removal to represent the energy blasts. That's about it. There's no background characters to speak of in Dragonball to fill the generic non-legendary creatures and every named character sort of does the same shit. The last clever thing that was one with the IP was the DBD survival game where a bunch of weakfags had to survive against the villains.Where's the flavor for the color pie? Grixis Frieza because he's evil? Riveting.
>>98249840Actually Avatar was fucking retarded. They made the earthbending idiots green because they dress in green clothes. Rocks and earthquakes have always been a red thing in mtg.
>>98249840You say this like MtG isn't defined by the color pie being used as cope to make flat characters with no personality "because that's what their colors are about bro"
>>98249489I swear I must be the only one who cares about Jace these days.
>>98248955Truly malicious searching and cutting.
>>98249895Hence why a lot of the earthbending legends were Gruul. Animating lands to fight is mechanically green and rock stuff is classically red as you said. All I see is a marriage between flavor and mechanics there.
>>98249700Got dicked by this just this week when it was my 4th land and didn't draw one the next turn. It's in the sock list I'm still playing for the coin flip SLD deck. Can't be that mad though I won that game off of absurd statistical luck even with Krark's Thumb on board.
>>98249929Magic's characters are mostly tools to represent what the designers want on cards, yes. When you transplant another IP that doesn't fit the mechanical demands of a Magic set onto the game you end up with awkward stuff like a Simic Vegeta that can't fly and wants to draw cards because that needs to be a limited signpost or draft rare bomb.
>>98249996This is, quite ironically, why people complain about UB sets being terrible for Limited. While a UW set tries to balance between Standard, Draft, and EDH, UB has a huge EDH bias because the understanding is that most people buying the set aren't concerned with anything but getting a card that represents their favorite glup shitto.
>>98249996>>98249840Only smart anon ITT
>>98250015Samefag
>>98249929To be fair, that's less of an issue with adapting Magic for a Magic story because it's the premise. Anon's talking about making the posterchild for battle shonen in Magic terms. Even if he isn't entirely accurate about there being no background elements, he's right in that a lot of characters don't really do that much to justify being different cards, or for that matter being different signposts for a limited archetype. Most people can't tell you the difference between a Kamehameha and Final Flash, and what difference there is doesn't translate into Magic.The best would be to do individual things as a SLD, since you wouldn't have to worry as much about stretching the characters out. Make Frieza have a villainous choice do destroy lands or take control of them. Krillin can distribute damage. Goku can flicker and burn on entry/attack, etc.
>>98249700This has gone in every deck I've ever built and every time sometime tells me to cut it I react with pic rel. It has never failed me so I will never fail it
>>98250019ok
>>98249930I like him OK but I'm more annoyed my nigga Gideon is fucking dead
>>98249940That may be true but animating a land does not make much sense as a mechanical representation of throwing a rock at someone, which is what earthbenders do.
>>98250113Yes it literally does?You're picking up your Mountain and throwing it at the enemy wizard's head
>pre release at the store>guy buys the captain america precon because he loves captain america>pulls main set mythic captain america from his first booster>screams with happiness at the top of his lungs like he pulled one of the 150 Mind Stonesnot gonna lie, his happiness was contagious
>>98250136Sounds like an autistic faggot
>Dude what if we took all the risk out of land animation and made it 100x more exploitable
>>98250150as such fits into mtg perfectly
>>98250128Well now you're just pulling my leg. The thematic implication of animating a land is turning it into a moving, living being. Last I checked this doesn't map onto the concept of throwing a rock at someone at all.
>>98250169You're taking the game's mechanics too literally
>>98250113Earthbending was just as frequently used defensively as it was offensively. The foundation of the mechanic in-universe is its sturdiness, it shouldn't be all about offense like red usually wants to do. There is a mechanical simplicity in just chunking rocks at your enemy to deal damage but in it's mechanical implementation earthbending allows you to defend yourself as well.My point being you'd be squeezing blood from a stone trying to extract mechanical differences with Dragon Ball when dedicated Dragon Ball games themselves struggle to do so at times.
>>98250233I'm more interested in the lore about the dickbenders, specifically Azula who is supposed to be the greatest one of them all.
>>98250255
>>98250255She's so hot bros
>>98250233>There is a mechanical simplicity in just chunking rocks at your enemy to deal damage but in it's mechanical implementation earthbending allows you to defend yourself as well.Now this is a compelling point. I still think based on thematic precedent animating a land fits poorly but I can get behind it when you put it like this. It would have better suited my sensibilities if Earthbend X meant make a 0/X typeless guy with defender or deal X damage to a target but hey what do I know I'm probably not the lead designer for MtG for a good reason. I had no beef with your point about dragonball by the way I just hate Avatar.
>>98250275>I had no beef with your point about dragonball by the way I just hate Avatar.Fair. I don't fuck with Dr. Who at all and don't use those cards so I get where you're coming from.
>>98249591>steals tour stuff>sacs it it's just overpriced doomblade, don't be a baby
We should be using IU, not UW. UW are unimportant practically non-canon characters that are flavored to the universe from UBshit. IU are in-universe cards that matter. non-UB is also acceptable.
>>98250315Magic is now more UB than non-UB. Therefore non-UB sets must wear the label of UW as a reminder of who their real masters are.
>>98250329>selling the bags to LGS counts as soldkek
>>98250358You know their manufacturing is less than pennies when the asset becomes profit before reaching the store.
>>98250315Man, that article is so stupid in-context.https://seller.tcgplayer.com/blog/top-selling-magic-the-gathering-sets-right-now-03-11-2026BREAKING NEWS! Set that just came out when that article was written is the best-selling set of the month! HOLY SHITU!
um marge why is kefka doing the mewing meme on my magic cards
>>98249996Congrats now you know why the mtg IP sucks and why UB happened in the first place
>>98247671BASED BASED BASED!personally id look at the top of your cmc curve and trim but damn if this deck doesnt take me back to a better time VERY good work anonAlso darksteel ingot has a strictly better version now.
>>98250315People use UW because it sounds better and matches more vs UB, your autism lost
>>98250472this game is so fucking borked
>>98248007>using mtgtop8>for a casual formatoh you!
>>98250466Skyclave Relic? I did put one in since that picture was taken. I'm definitely taking out Identity Crisis and Tariel as they don't fit the theme. I'll put some lower cost lifegain in it as it's my primary lifegain deck. Deathtouch with Oros is the other theme. Since when did Soul's Attendant get so expensive? I need to dig through my bulk since I probably have a playset of those fuckers.
>>98247845But imagine having so much life you can get away with running Dark Confidant and Dark Tutelage. That's the world I would like to live in.
>>98247827No I like this idea. I should have some more lifelink equipment. What are my top choices that aren't $$$. I think there was one I was looking at before and said fuck that. Oh yeah Shadowspear. I'm going to have to trade for that one.
>>98250489I went for a lifegain theme with my Oros list I found the smaller life gain sources like soul sisters were pretty bad. My list devolved pretty quickly into an aetherflux reservoir list and some janky doomsday lines. I really need to get back to tuning it and injecting some soul back in. All that being said Vizkopa guildmage is pretty indispensable and a pretty good wincon for Oros.
>>98250136Good on him honestly, I'm sure I'd feel the same if I pulled Gambit when he comes out or some shit
What's the most unique goblin commander?
>>98250599Krenko, Mob Boss
>>98250537Oros sounds like the most fun as a pestilence on a stick guys + lifelink enabler type of deck. Repercussion could do a lot of work in such decks as well.
>>98250599>everyone but me...>CHARGE!
>>98250577what's with the gambit fan base being so strong? I only ever watched the 90s TV show but I don't remember him being particularly important or interesting
>>98250599God I miss old Techies. Probably the only time an ASSFAGGOT game was fun to me, just randomly killing their fed carry without even meaning to and getting called a nigger due to it was priceless
>>98250616Amen to that, too bad they listened to whiners that techies were griefing (Grief rate up 13% since the rework)
>>98250614He's cool
I wanted to build a glint-eye commander because I love everything that is not white and I was surprised to see there is only one (1) in the entirety of the game, do you guys recommend any of the partner duos?
>>98250275I like that it uses lands rather than just making a token. A big part of how it works in avatar is they need to literally have the substances to move it. They can't spawn a rock or water or air, only move it. Even fire needs to use body heat and you can chill them enough to negate it.I can understand how making it a creature in order to achieve the desired result might trigger some autism. Maybe something like tapping a land to enhance their actions would work better. Tap while attacking to get menace, tap while blocking to gain indestructible. That sorta thing.
>>98250136I'm gonna show up in a full Cyclops cosplay when the inevitable X-men set drops.>>98250614>charming rogue with a hot gf that throws cards and uses a staffHe's just objectively a cool character
>>98250599>>98250616>>98250635Cancer, techies isn't Dota soul like 6 eblade drow ranger was
What commander would you recommend to a friend who is a timmy but who is more fond of big sorceries rather than creatures
>>98250599>Support can stun you for 8 fucking seconds 4 of which went through BKB because they totally need it bro this game isn't LoL we can have weird designs>But no punishing people for losing a knowledge check and walking blind uphill is too toxic despite the fact that sentries now cost 25% of what they used to and gem lets you see uphill for free
>>98250788The map is fuckall huge now, even a single glimmer makes sure you run out of sentries just for dewarding and fight vision
>>98250403kekfa is a manlet pls understand
>>98250806Gee if only they didn't rework dust to cover a giant undispellable aoe for 12 fucking seconds because supports need to be babysat every fucking step of the way.
>>98250760Vivi
>>98249840You give them instants/sorceries like instant transmission, kamehameha, etc to represent the energy blasts rather than giving them all similar effects. Then you either have the easy way of them building up +1/+1 counters and transforming after a certain amountare stacked, or generating mana like an anime elf tribal and then using the mana for attacks/transforming.Not sure how you'd do progressive transformations like SSJ3 or 4/God. Maybe companions?
>>98250760Nu Silverquill
>>98250806Eco pressure in exchange for being able to take literally every fight 5v4 is a more than fair trade.
>>98250828Are there even that many funny big sorceries in white black?
I fucking love unwinding clock. Ungodly abomination of a card, 10/10.
>>98250842Running rakdos artifacts or hwat?
>>98250841Well, you can copy this which bypasses anyone being able to counter it. If nobody counters the original you get two extra turns in BW which is pretty funny.
>>98250841I think shitting out a billion tokens or making the entire table lose 40 life by copying a spell is funny You may disagree
>>98250614See the show did good in the sense of introducing him, but left a ton of his character at the door and just did surface level matters H e's actually pretty well written for a capeshit character when the writer gives a fuck. He's got a good amount of backstory but it's not really ever used for angst, but rather to explain the acts he takes, he's got a well established personality that actually is just him putting up a front in a kind of chunni fake it until you make it way, which you can tell both in a lot of his solo runs but also because writers actually make him relate to kids well in his stories (the X-23 run he was more of a dad to Laura than Wolverine), his rogues gallery actually has some cool characters like his adoptive dad, and when the writers remember it, he is best friends with Storm to the point she served as his best man at his wedding. He's also kind of fun at being a reverse Spider-Man, with great power comes great responsibility, and he we like "fuck that" and nerfed his powers so he could be a bit more relaxed and just do the occasional thief job, though his powers are cool too considering they do more than just make shit explodeI dunno, I'm not doing the best job explaining but like another anon said>>98250652He's cool
>>98250841Breach the Multiverse?
>>98250853No, boros. I run a bunch of imprint artifacts that tap to activate like Isochron Scepter. You can get up to no good with those if you have one or more rocks that produce a good amount of mana.
>>98250760
>>98250836>muh sexThe separation of sex from reproduction is the single most damaging thing about modernity
>>98250932Having sex for reproduction is still having sex.
>>98250932There's a really simple and easy way to make fun of you but I'm not trying to get banned for off topic so here's a picture of a commander I've been thinking about building
>>98250949sex with jhoira
>>98250949You get a maximum cool score (5 gold stars) if you manage to exclude every suspend relevant dr whomst card.
>>98250911I already know the commander is Zirda, but sounds fun! Artifact decks have that toybox feel
>>98250938Don't be obtuse. There's a good reason why the accusation is that someone isn't having sex and not that he is not a father and that is simply because sex has been stripped from its most profound biological purpose and been reduced to a show of status, particularly among women and men who don't frequently experience sex.
>>98250973Ackshually it's a jor kadeen the prevailer predh deck but yeah zirda would probably be a million times better.
What's a good equipment commander that doesn't have the word equipment in its text box?
>>98250949>braindead general for a braindead poster pottery
>>98250970Sorry but Flaming Tyrannosaurus is generic enough to get in
>>98250989equipment in general is a pretty weak strat in my experience. I had some success with pic related but that was many moons ago>FRF was over 10 years ago shiiiiiet
>>98250841Exsanguinate/debt to the deathless, that double x black spell from doctor who, hailfire, both epic spells, any living death effect is good with the death triggers you're inevitably running and any effect that doesn't explode alive creatures are still fine with sac outlets on board, deploy to the front, even hatred on a silverquill swing
Man i wish I wasn't so retarded when it came to land amount in my deck, that's always a hard block for me to figure out
>>98251096morealso run all the MDFCsALWAYS
>>9825109640, there you're automatically not retarded for having too many lands (unless its CEDH)
>>98249700Not even a real land
>>98250136How dare he have joy.
>>98249700i kneel
>>98251096commander CMC <4: 38 landsccommander CMC 5-6: 40 landscommander CMC >7: 42 lands+2 lands if running landfall-1 land if your commander is a dork
>>98249700That's cool anon, now please tap all your lands in your upkeep.
>>98250980This post is very mentally ill
>>98251220is this MLD?
>>98251138you're going to flood out so bad without a lot of draw.
>>98251339you're gonna screw out so bad without a lot of draw
>>98251395>>98251395>>98251395
>>98250760Both versions of Lorehold are about as timmy as you can get, regarding creatures and instant/soreceries
>>98247983What the fuck sisters? Wizards said there would be no more tribal cards. I'm literally shaking here
>>98250472>it's the official term for all in-universe sets nowI wish I completely left this hobby when they announced these seta in standard a year and a half ago. Would have saved me a lot of disappointment.
>>98250504https://scryfall.com/search?q=oracle%3ALifelink+type%3Aequipment&unique=cards&as=full&order=usd&dir=asc
>>98250599Ironically, krenko, but as voltron.
>>98250668Why not play the combination's namesake>Inb4 not legendaryThe nephilims generally get a pass.
>>98250668>>98252780He's not bad, honestly.
>>98250980Sex is an expression of profound love and trust. Anything short of that isn't sex, it's fucking, and it's profane.
>>98247244I win most of my games because I lie about brackets, have less than 100 cards in my deck, fake shuffle and stack my deck. Edh is solely about winning
>>98254031You're my rape victim.
