Dungeon Master Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th/11th Edition Ruleshttps://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Alternative rules:https://onepagerules.com/https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>previous thread:>>98244453>june collage theme:quick and nimble and/or blanchitsu>thread question:what is your deep dark fantasy?
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
Skitussy TODAY!
>>98248660
Embarce tradition
>>98248678I'm in the loo. I will not embark.
Post some models, gents. Bonus points if you've started on a model from the Armageddon box.
>>98248638fisting is 300 bucks
harlequins can take the avatar of khaine?why?
>>98248692some more progress on the forgefiend, only gold on his main body and some minor touchups left to do.
>>98248692I do not want the armageddon box, GW must lower prices.
Requested a drawbro to make me a Drukhari drider Haemonculi creationWould this be a good new mini for Deldar
>>98248721Looking sweet. What's the plan for the base?
>>98248413>marine player playing real cagey>move some of my shit up (orks)>vitrix guard dismount from a land raider, advance and charge, ruin my shitits a particular example but it seems to happen a bit
>>98248692>painting the rider and wartrakk togetherplease dont tell me that its not separate on the sprue
>>98248725I mean sure, the elf dr frankensteins can make anything.The covens could use more monsters apart from the pain engines
Temperatures reaching 40 degrees Celsius / 104F in the UK and Summer has only startedFaction for this?
>>98248752Embers of Muaat
>>98248752thats fuckin brutal, whats the equivalent of that in a non humid environment? im used to it as an ausfag but every building over there retains heat so you're kinda fucked desu
>>98248738The legs are fused to the seat, the body slots into a peg that comes out of the back of the seat (meaning unless you snip that peg it'd be hard to put on after the rest of the bike is done) and the shoulders/arms/handlebars are one piece that sits on top of the body. Would be horrible to try and subassembly it so I didn't.The gunner is all separate, though.
>>98248738it appears so though you can get away with not painting the upper body because the back of the wartrakk connects to the lowerback.
>>98248725put it like that it's more of a fantasy design than a 40k one
>>98248726I did desert for all my tsons stuff so far sa that's what's this guys getting
>>98248752Fear not anon, once the Gulf Stream fails such heat will be a distant memory as you deal with freezing colds and blizzards. To escape the heat consider bio-transference
>>98248758ill probably just do it like that, i dont have a decent quick ork skin recipe for painting over a black primer (instead of a zenithal) so ill just struggle through it. sounds similar to wazdakka>>98248759yeah fuck that, standard gw practice now. do you have potato heritage? you have hairs on your feet like mine, although mine are way hairier
>>98248768my father’s side is pure blooded wop italian, and the other is a soup of a dozen different mixed races (with a little irish), so god knows where I get my foot hair from.
>>98248759Why are those little piggies on the Lego building instructions and not in my mouth?
How often does this actually happen do you think
>>98248804I know what you are >>571602985
>>98248725It's a fun concept
He's right, there seems to be a trend, Horus Heresy 3 was also fumbled and badly mismanaged
>>98248808woah a human brain boy. You'd think in his head would stored all 40k lore, but actually its just how to best anger 40k fans
Does everyone get tired of the colour they chose to paint their marines? So sick of green that last night I was seriously considering yellow of all things.
>>98248678>still on the old basesBased. I have a bunch of those old ass termies too and I ain't putting them on the new base size unless GW sends me them. Fuck 'em!
>>98248678>CML has a power fist instead of a targeterNot traditional enough for my taste.
genuine question: why do nu-40k fans get so mad if you even mildly criticise 40k?not even insulting it just being like "well X is better"
>>98248692I’m picking up a speeder tonight after work. Otherwise just trying to finish these guys before the end of the month and I have to start packing everything up.>>98248838Never ever. When I get bored of it I just paint my tau for a bit.
>>98248857Because you’re wasting their time trying to get them to play something else that’ll be dead in 2 years.
the app has gone live for list building!!!!
>>98248804Most people at my LGS have a mix of painted and unpainted units in their army, I have a world eaters list that's battle ready but I think it could do with more finish. I think the 10 points only mattered in one game, I brought it up and the dude wasnt salty but I kind of got the feeling he was thinking "you won the game but you didnt beat me" because of it. The gameplay is like 20% tactics and 80% how good you roll dice so it doesnt weigh heavy on me if I win or lose.
whats the most important moon in 40k
The dark eldar refresh is not soon. It is already here.
>>98248863they mistaken blind loyalty to the GW brand as love and passion for warhammer 40k. I've been in this hobby longer, own more armies and models and have given GW more of my money than any of them and I'll still criticise GW up and down the street and 6 ways to sunday.
>>98248804If we enforced this rule at my LGS 90% of the players there would have a maximum score of 90 on all the games they play. It's been this way for years now, not one of them has actually fully painted their army, they just hop and swap to the next project they'll half-finish or don't ever bother to paint the models at all.A month ago when I decided to host my own tournament at the store I decided to enforce the rule, and was shocked at how many of them actually got their shit together and painted the models they planned to use. It's crazy how effective of a rule it is.
>>98248823buy an ad
>>98248804I have lost about 2-3 games because of this actually.
>>98248864nah just comparing
>>98248892>didn't prime the bases before painting (presumably)what is this nigga doin
>>98248725There should be more monster girls in the Dark Eldar range.
>>98248662>sliders for voice distortionNeat. Soul, even.
>>98248923I bet its warm and tight when you remove the tubing.
So can I use 3DP detachments for 1k or not
>>98248930Yes, pigface
Ahriman status?
>>982489303DPD
>>98248930>1k has a DP pool of 2the answer is no
>>98248957thousand sons refresh soon, i can feel it.
>>98248957whats this about, is someone here working on his Ahriman or something?mines already painted
>>98248930>>98248971which is fucking retarded I dont know why the DP should change if you play smaller games doesnt make sense to me
>>98248892how often do you play against unpainted / unfinished armies? its about 90% of the time for me
>>98248971tourney pack says ignore restriction
>indirect fire can still hit hidden unitsis there any way to cheese this?
I'm working on a starting White Scars list to use as many of my minis as possible. I need a bit of help with assigning heroes to units correctly.Currently I plan to run a 6-man Bike Squad bubble with an Attack Bike, a Tactical Squad in a Rhino and a 5-man unit of Assault Terminators.For HQs I want to field a Captain, a Chaplain and a Librarian. Which one of those three should get a bike, a Terminator armour or end up crammed in a Rhino with Tacs?
>>98248873the moon of ymgarl
I like orks :D
>TQ>what is your deep dark fantasy?Vigilante justice with extreme prejudice
>>98248838They look alrightAnd a large army always looks better in a uniform scheme
>>98249054Peak ork
>>98248692Made a Techmarine Malevolent the other day
>>98248991true, just give everyone 3dp to spend regardless of battle size
>>98249071if you imagine the line below his eyes is a mouth he looks like he's doing a derpy smile and that makes me happy
>>98248638>TQI would be an amazing supreme dictator. The best dictator.
>>98249071BROTHERMY BARREL REMAINS UNDRILLED
>>98248838I had that happen to me while painting loads of Admech, just couldn't paint another red robe. I started collecting Salamanders just because I wanted to paint green as it's the opposite from red.
>>98249071>>98249096Add overbite teeth to it like he's Mr. Burns
>>98248913They used to, kind of.There's nothing stopping you from having them right now.
>>98249143if it's got an animal head it's not a monstergirlask any sexozoologist
>>98248838I have blood angels and all my squads are in different shades of red because vallejo discontinued the paint I used back in 7th (heavy red) and the supposed equivalent isn't really and equivalent so I keep trying new paints or use slightly different shading.
>>98248957best chapter master model, possibly best model in 40k
>>9824872540k needs more spiders
How shit are sub 2k games looking this edition? Or are they boring rock-paper-scissors with mild list optimization or skewing
>>98249212>possibly best model in 40knot sure if I'd go that far but he really is cool as fuck
>>98249143sslyth should have four boobs
Look at that ogryn. Not only is his combat uniform neater and cleaner than what an ordinary guardsman would be caught in on another planet's parade ground, but he also buttoned it all the way up by himself. That's the kind of discipline and exactitude you only see nurtured in Mordian's Iron Guard.
>>98249221the 1k game I played this weekend was fine. it plays like 1k games last edition did. I did shrink my board from my normal 72x48 to a “regulation” 60x44 because of the smaller armies and to really try the terrain footprints as intended, I also normally don’t play match play but we gave it a shot and had a lot of fun. I play casually with a small group of homies, we’ll probably house rule unlocked dispositions eventually if we’re getting bored. I’m excited to play 2k games, but I see myself getting many more 1k games in overall.
>>98249241they all look like shaved monkeys that put their face in a blenderwhat did the imperium do to humanity
>>98249070true, though I do prefer the new style faces, the rogue trader orks had some amazing designs. imagine if the new armageddon weirdboy had crazy outfits with bells all over like the old ones.
>>98249241what the fuck is wrong with the faces of the other 3?
>>98249221primary missions being asymmetric makes smaller games and the potential for skew lists way more fun. it's not just stand and bang, if your opponent brings a 250 point tank you don't have to fight it.
>>98249229No, they left their slaaneshi ways behind them
>>98249042what edition? assuming current:>chaplain on bike, because he’s the only one with rules currently>captain with tacs>librarian in terminator armorI really like the sustained hits the librarian hands out for your terminators, and he gives the unit a decent shooting attack
>bring my STL printed army to lgs>my opponent busts out the jeweler's loupeOH N-
>>98248730use something fast to block the path of the vitrix (cheap stormboyz) or setup a powerful unit to heroic in to kill them. Basically when you are the slower melee army, you cannot pick when the fights happen but you get to pick where. Because your opponent is paying 220 pts to get the speed to hit first you have a lot more stuff to fight with. Situations like that are also the prime spot for a fight on death.
Y'all need to help me out, I can't find the answer anywhere. If a model has more weapons on their sheet than they can even hold, do they get to shoot them all during the shooting phase or is it only what is physically on the model? Do shields not work unless they take up a hand on the model? What does WYSIWYG mean rule-wise for shooting or fighting?
First Codex of 11th is obviously going to be Codex Supplement Xenos, a softcover book meant to be sold as an addition to all your 10th edition codexes containing over 80 new detachments for use with your existing ones. No data sheet changes. Models will be trickled out for these armies over the next eight months.
>>98249255They're cannon fodder in a war zone.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98249267>shuffle my secondary deck and present it to cut>opponent picks one up>"Hey, wait a minute! This isn't a Games Workshop™ Warhammer™ 40,000™ Chapter-Approved™ Secondary Objective™ Deck!>banned from lgs for piracy and GW deathsquad deployed to my location
>>98249280wysiwyg is a choice for players and tournament organizers but you don’t have to play wysiwyg.you maybe confused because you see all the weapon options, but that is not what the model is equipped with. every model is going to have a unit composition section that tells you how many models equipped with what, and then a wargear section with option equipment that can be added or replace one of your current options.
>>98249295Newshitters must find this stuff so confusing without the context of wargear selection from older edishes
>>98249303it’s something I enjoy about new recruit only presenting the wargear you’ve selected for the model
>>98249295So the Intercessors get every single weapon listed, but the Sargent has a few more options?Like Bolt Pistol, Plasma Pistol, and Hand Flamer can all be used on the same turn?
>>98249280Every ranged/melee weapon on a datasheet is present on a unit by default, unless the datasheet explains that a weapon is a replacement for another.Example:https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/thousand-sons/Sekhetar-RobotsSekhetar robots have 2 arms with a mix of ranged and melee weapons built in. They will always have the warpflamer, missle rack, and CCW on their right (IIRC) arm. Their left arm has the choice of either a pyreflux meltagun, or a combination warpflame projector+power claw. If you pick one arm option then you lose what the other arm grants.Some weapons have alternate firing modes. In this case you can only pick one mode to fire per round.Example:https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/thousand-sons/Mutalith-Vortex-BeastThe MVB has 3 ranged weapons listed on its datasheet, but are all firing modes for the Warp vortex. You can attack with either the blast, beam, or torrent modes, but once you pick an option that weapon is considered fired and another mode cant be used.
>>98249325>Pic Related
>>98248692
>>98249326And this WYSIWYG rule doesn't remove weapons if they aren't present on the model, like pistols, blasters and shields that just aren't represented on the models?
>>98249334So on the datasheet there's a section on unit composition. That will tell you the price of the unit, how many models are in it, and what those models are equipped with. Those are the weapons those models are allowed to shoot by default. Now, if the datasheet has a section called "Wargear Options", it will describe how you are allowed to change the default weapons or add to them.
>>98249327https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/space-marines/Intercessor-SquadCheck the wargear on this page for an explanation of who gets what.>The Intercessor Sergeant’s bolt rifle can be replaced with one of the following:>1 Astartes chainsword>1 hand flamer>1 plasma pistol>1 power weapon>The Intercessor Sergeant’s close combat weapon can be replaced with one of the following:>1 Astartes chainsword>1 power fist>1 power weapon>1 thunder hammer>For every 5 models in this unit, 1 model equipped with a bolt rifle can be equipped with 1 Astartes grenade launcher.And this:>Every model is equipped with: bolt pistol; bolt rifle; close combat weapon.The latter part is the "default" composition for the model, and you can replace weapons using the former part's list. When you replace a weapon you lose it.
>>98249325>>98249327there is a second page to that datacardevery model has a bolt rifle, a bolt pistol, and a close combat weapon.your sergeant can replace his rifle and or his close combat weapon with several options. one squad member can get the grenade launcher. here your sergeant is only going to be equipped with ONE option: a bolt pistol, a plasma pistol, or a hand flamer so he will only shoot the option you chose during list building. additionally, pistols/close quarters shooting guns cannot be shot by models in the same phase those models shot non pistol/close quarters guns. therefore, your intercessors dont get to shoot bolt rifles and bolt pistols in the same phase, but for example your grenadier can shoot his bolt rifles and grenade launcher
I'm >>98249353This guy >>98249363 is right about something I messed upThere's "equipped with" and "replaced" as wargear options to determine if you still get a weapon or notFor the sekhetar robots example you replace the melta and as a result lost access to itWith the intercessors example you replace the sergeant's weapon (and lose the original weapon in the process), but the grenadiers get the grenade launcher IN ADDITION TO their bolt rifle, as anon clarifies.
>>98249241>1 Abhuman>3 mutants The fuck happen to Mordia?
>>98249149Can confirm.
>>98249404These are and have always been Atoma citizens stealing the laundry of whoever passes by.If you touch Atoma Prime you come out naked.
>>98249363>>98249380So how do you know if your grenade launcher dude dies? Is one of the models painted differently?
>>98249420depends on what the controller player decides, at the start of the game you're supposed to tell your opponent "This dude with a grenade in hand counts as my dude with grenade launcher". Some players do some other stuff like placing rubber bands on bases or painting certain bits. Some players do go WYSIWYG and things are a tiny bit simpler but it rarely is a problem.
Nice. Boxy Ghaz is still my favourite.
>>98249420well, ideally, you use the model with the grenade launcher to represent the guy with the grenade launcher. otherwise you could paint him different, place a token next to him, or by some other method clearly identify him for yourself and your opponent
>>98249434So, in tournies, does the WYSIWYG rule not allow those with a bolt rifle to also have a pistol at the strictest interpretation? I see that rule mentioned, and I'm not sure how far most players take it.
Now that the dust has settled…What do we all think of 11th?
>>98249446Just play 4th edition.
>>98249446When are they going to sell 11e codexes on the warhammer site?
>>98249446Might as well play Magic, I bet that is less of a convulated mess than this.
>>98249442In tourneys you have to submit army lists that clearly define what units are equipped with what. If for whatever reason the model doesnt reflect what it's equipped with (happens for a few units that have upgrades but didn't get sprues IIRC) then you'd use a token or something to show it's different. WYSIWYG isn't that strictly followed in my personal experience, it exists more to stop people from doing proxying/counts-as shenanigans.
>>98249446This is known
>>98249447Do you actively play 4e?
>>98249461Casual magic is really funCompetitive might be convoluted bullshit idk it probably is but casual games with friends are good times
>>98249473Enough to have a mission objective summery for 4th at hand.
>>98249442No, in the case of intercessors for example if you look at the datasheet, no matter what you will always have a bolt pistol with the standard intercessors, so you will always count as having it.Tournaments nowadays straight up don't care about WYSIWYG, they only care thata) you build and submit a valid listb) have any way, be it WYSIWYG or any sort of token or maker to let your opponent tell what's what.
>>98249223Ahriman has a great model and is a very strong unit on the table but goddamn all the stories make him look dumb as fuckI like thousand sons as a concept but Ahriman and Magnus both come off as Adeptus Retardes
>>98249479Well most armies lost their different weapons.Now weapons are blob gun unit A, blob melee unit B
>>98249478Thats dope if you doAlot of people talk about older editions, 4e specifically, being better, but then don’t actually play them
>>98249420I had the same question building the intercessors last night, none of them have a visible grenade launcher
Went digging through the used bins at my former LGS and got my hands on a bunch of 2nd ed chaos space marine bits. I'm going to use them to make a mighty and terrifying squad of chosen chaos space marines and nobody can stop me. This one is called Skullfist the Ripper. He fists and rips his foes in the name of Khorne.
>>98249498Very rough and cool looking anon
>>98249487We end using a lot of house rules, like double 1s for a leadership test is always a success. Mostly for units under 50% because otherwise they would simply continue to run
>>98248873Luna or Titan. I sort of remember something about how the admech changed Deimos and Phobos but nothing major.
>>98248725>>98248819Covens having a>build your own freak for 100 pointswargear setup would be greatBut GW would not do that because>REEE NO YOU CAN'T JUST PUT HALF AN ELF ON A TYRANID BODY
Hive Fleet Colossus
>>98249494there's an underslung second barrel on one of their bolt rifles
>>98249539why does he have the eldar chin thing
>Dark Imperium>Calgar is commuting between Ultramar and Vigilus>Vigilus Ablaze>Calgar is the boss on Vigilus and gets his shit destroyed>Vigilus Alone>Calgar is AWOL since getting his shit destroyed>500 Worlds: Titus>Calgar is on his way to Ultramar but is making slow progress on the far side of the Great Rift>Operation Imperator>Calgar takes a break from fighting in the Bastior subsector on the other side of the galaxy from where he was last heard from and beelines to Armageddon to become the bossBro must have his own webway that's just a straight highway to anywhere he wants to go
>>98249556eldar didn't invent having chins
When the Emperor called Guilliman a tool… I felt that shit ngl
>starweaver 34 dollars new on ebay and 7 dollars shipping, 41 total>starweaver 30 dollars used on ebay, and 7 dollars shipping, 37 total but it's painted and missing the entire crewJust why niggaWhy the f is the secondhand market so fucked up
>>98249446It's better than 10th but that's not a high bar.
>>98249291Thinking of joining the Games Workshop Deathwatch so I can steal the best 3D printed models from dweebs when GW sends us to kill them (and their legal models too lmao). Any recommendations for armies I should try and aim for if I'm going to be getting them for free?
>>98249581Well at least things are trending in the correct direction
11e was released, why can't I find the new codex list for sale on warhammer or anywhere else?
>>98249616There is a conspiracy to stop you from playing
>>98249522Fuck you GWGive me back my court of vipers
>>98249616There is no 11th edition it's an elaborate prank
>>98249616Codexes are released periodicallyThe core rules are out but not new codexes10e codexes are currently compatible with 11e until GW says fuck everyone gibs money
>>98249671i miss him so much bros…
>>98249671>sloppostingkys
>>98249265>what edition? Current.>chaplain on bike, because he’s the only one with rules currentlyI play with Legends, no fucks are given on my side. When I say Bike Squads, I mean THE Bike Squads brother.
Helmet or no helmet?
>>98249689????
>>98249671>>98249697GOOD MORNINGSAAAAAR
>>98249658Starting to feel like this might be the "Final" edition with the way they're finally being forced to go digital. As soon as they can charge a subscription fee and additional one time purchase for digital codexes/rules justifying a "premium" physical price point for codexes and books it's over. I would expect 11e to be the "stable"(one might even say Championship Edition) of 40k with a shift towards reviving/performing retro remakes of previous editions to bring them up to speed with modern QoL fixes. Imagine the next twenty years of 40k being a "stable" Modern addition purely digital with quarterly updates and the new 3/5y year edition rotation shifting over to Retro Remastering of 2e, then 4e, then 6e, then 8e.
>krieg (french nazis)>steel legion (nazis)>mordian (prussian nazis)>no praetorians ("I wish Nazi Germany won WWII")I don't think their game engine, or their artist, can make a nice looking uniform. It's basically just another Krieg skin.Also their genders are male, female, non-binary and male but with gay shaved eyebrow. I'd say bravo for making Germans feminine but the frauline is somehow stockier than the man.
>>98249695Always helmetHelmets are cool
>>98249638It does kinda feel like this; it's such a barebones attempt at improvement that it's questionable why they even bothered. I mean I'll take it, but it feels so lazy and halfassed
>>98249709Once Horus Heresy closes down expect to see 40,000 Retro 2e: The 2nd War for Armageddon with a starter box of push fit Space Marine Tacticals.
>>98249707>wife-with-broken-creative-spirit niggas be like
>>98249577scalpers + newfag retards actually paying that. a lot of these ebay sellers are neets so commendeer their mom's basement for a huge inventory of garbage like this. I was friends with one. its pathetic but no shipping is so much work that its not worth selling shit on ebay for most people
>>98249689>>98249707https://www.deviantart.com/israllona/art/Emperor-of-Mankind-Fanart-No-Official-1348233803
Let's go
>>98249738my man is barking at ghosts
>>98249714>mordian (prussian nazis)I always had a hard time to tell if Mordian are supposed to be space Red Army or space America Fuck Yeahs on steroids. I decided to see them as the latter since former is applicable for too many regiments already.
>>98249565>he doesn't know the Jawline Epoch of the War in Heaven
>>98249738its slop dude... look at the belt, the squares literally change shape and mutate and don't several are missing gems. there are random lines everywhere. you can tell AI to make line art drawings of anything
>>98249693I made assumptions.bike captain for assault on the bikes seem nice when they auto advance 6the foot librarian give your tacs a 4+ invul save is good durability with the cover changes.terminators getting a 4+ fnp against mortals from the termie chappie insulates them against a major weakness AND +1 to wound means your assault terminators are more consistent damage bike captain, foot librarian, chaplain in terminator armor
I went looking.a tactical squad is 140, that’s 70 points per marine, with wargear costs. with the combat squads ability, you could split your heavy and special weapon off with the sergeant and have 5 man boltgun squad for screening or action monkey scouts and intercessors are still better for 10 points more or 10 points less, but are tacticals viable again??
>>98249775ntaI've watched shimmering sword do mecha art. He does the CGI part with basicf blocks to trace over. It looks like he narrowed the blocks to look like they fit, which is why they arent tilted with the belt line.>he forgot a step
>>98249775The belt sections were digitally rotated and the lines are construction remnants on another layer at lower opacity
>>98249803>that’s 70 points per marinedear god
>>98249689>>98249707>all the filigree is perfectly symmetrical without melting or blobbingNah senpai, this is handmade.
>>98249714why us the mordian psyker so zesty
>>98249803>7pts per wound (i assume if what you meant)New intercessor rules update places them at 15 which is 7.5pts per wound.
I'm making a mini diorama. I want my dude do be holding a space marine's severed head in his hand. But I don't like the idea of a bare head, I want a helmeted head. Problem is there's no good way to grab a space marine helmet with one hand. I was thinking it could be broken on the side, maybe? But that might look stupid as well.Any ideas?
>>98249775you’re so ravenous about defending real art that youve ended up becoming a faggot shitting on random real artistsYou dont have a well trained artistic eye and you dont know what youre talking aboutStay in your lane and go back to posting about little toys
>>98249828Khorne has handles on their marine helmets for this very reason. Everyone including their own kills a khorne berzerker.
>>98249714>life is a catwalk
What is the hobby to you?
>>98249857chilling with my niggas talking about the loreWe play but very rarelyI dont like the building/painting shit, my buddy does all that for us cuz he likes it
Man I love the old metal Meganobz and I'm really tempted to get some but scale creep makes them look puny.Which hurts a little since bigger is better is the whole Ork shtick.Also buff Meganob shooting. I hate that twin saws are the only reasonable thing to take since their shooting is so ass.The Dakka detachment being 1 point can help them out a little but they do need some love in that regard.
>>98249714ah the 4 genders,womanmastermindcreepaverage man
>>98248759Dude I can't keep telling you to wash your feet man
the voidraven is quite big
>>98249857painting and collecting, I don't play and have no desire to try it
>>98248759do you have fungus in your nails?
>>98249828Hanging from a hook on a chain he is holding up
>>98249775Beginner tip: always check the portfolio before posting. That's the minimum amount of sleuthing you should do.
>>98249872Have you tried it out in 11th yet? Curious if it is worth the points now with the new aircraft and void mine rules.
>>98249863>loreyou mean Horus Heresy Black Library slop, dont you?
>>98249894?IdkShit thats on the lexicanum and 1d6chan
>reading r*ddit posts on the ruuurs>they recommend that various units be removed because it's a 'skirmish' gameOh rightBut no one recommend removing primarchs, lords of war or big fucking tanks like the baneblade huhBecause having a single model be 30% of your army is okay in this 'skirmish gmae'
>>98249776Thanks Anon. Do you think it's worth to add an Ancient or an Apothecary to the mix? I'm fine with dropping either a Dreadnought or a Land Speeder if necessary. Just to be clear, I'm building a list for 1000pts games and I plan to play 1000pts exclusively for the foreseeable future.
>>98249908I mean you can run games that way if you prefer
>>98249857Build > Collect > Play > Paint. Yes, I am a paintlet and I'm trying my best but I simply don't like the process.
threadly mental health check-inHow u guys doin? Everyone okay in here?
>>98249926Other than the daily dose of imposter syndrome/ reasonable assessment of my own incompetence, I’m doing okay.
>>98249926>Everyone okay in here?It is what it is
>>98249810>>98249820I meant 70 points per 5 to compare to intercessors. the better assault heavy ap 1 guns and the extra attacks from target elimination means the intercessor is still point for point a better unit. but the tacticals are cheaper, they fit in a cheaper transport with almost double the carrying capacity, and primaris characters leading them are still allowed inside. I think there’s some play there.
>>98249433I wish this guy wasn't an adepticon exclusive, out of the poses we got for the Armageddon set I think it's better than most of them.
>>98249803>are tacticals viable again??no they're obvious way worse than 4 or 5 other squads for the same cheap niche.
>>98249926spider bite is healing
>>98249926it's hot as balls and next door's kids are shrieking in the garden
>>98249972play music loudly that their parents don't want them liking and asking for more of>grunge metal
>>98249917Yes that's my point, you can run the game however you want. But somehow there arealways faggots calling for some big models to be removed, but don't apply it to the almost-titan-sized models.
How lethal is modern 40k? It seems like every unit has a lot of special abilities or can be juiced with strats to be way more lethal than my reference point of middlehammer 5e. Or are defensive abilities equally super consistent?
>>98249926I have become very mentally ill over the last 20 months, thanks for asking.
>>98249910healing is considerably better this edition, but I don’t know if your bikes are worth it. 65 points for an apothecary is pretty close to 3 more bikes. even at 40 points for a foot apothecary, tacticals are not worth healing. sternguard and hellblasters are the models I think of when I think “apothecary” premium infantry shooting units
>>98248692https://youtu.be/4iwHb189X84?si=dPGI3wbqmR-U5wgt&t=33
>>982499856 units of intercessors can remove 33 marines a turn when they stand still and use Anvil Siege Force +1 to wound240 shots, 200 hits, 133 wounds, 66 failed saves (-1AP)>heavy intercessors are nastier
>>98249857I didn't know there was a 4th, "collect" angle.
>>98249981>le skirmish gamethis is why my friend group has soft-banned epic heroesguilliman is not coming to the small kerfuffle on the cardboard and diarrhea planet dude
>>98249993Hm, I would not mind fielding a unit of Sternguard in a Razorback but I believe I can't because of the damn TACTICUS™ keyword. I don't think there is a workaround for that one.
>>98249872damn thats a sick paintjob
>>98250005I'm the opposite. I run armies that chew things up that are all about "I want to spend 5 units worth of troops on a warlord and his retinue">ok dude, my 120 hormagaunts spread out and I take 4 out of 5 objectives while attacking the few units you have there
>>98249926How are you anon? Going to abstract soon?
>>98250018i respect that if you commit to the bitreally i just want people to give enough of a shit to have a bit to commit to
>>98248638Can't make up my mind about my Raven Guard. Blue or Grey highlight?
>>98250004It's quite popular tbf. My friend's got 6 armies or something, and he's never played 3 of them. All painted up
>>98250011just Drop pod them into rapid fire range, and then if you need to use them for scoring, 24” range is respectable.
>>98249926The gym I was going close, meanwhile the rest of the local gyms seem to be nurgle's den.My shoulder pain wont go away and doctors are running out of options, I usually do not mind it, but the pain is starting to wake me up while I'm sleeping. Company haven't made a sale in 5 years and we are running on fumes, meanwhile my second company is selling but the US market almost feels like dealing with the Mafia and the Euros are the retarded version of our local regulations. All things consider it is going pretty good.
>>98249926I actually got a gf not too long ago and it's been really good for my mental health. I already have less time to hobby which kinda sucks but it is what it is.
>>98249985very lethal, one reason Hidden has been introduced. it's a tiny board with loads of massive models and takes 3 hours to play 5 rounds. death is somewhat necessary.
>>98249936Youre probably young its normalItll get better>>98249943Wagmi anon>>98249990Hope it gets better for u anonGood sleep regular exercise touch grass less phone/computer all that shit>>98250024Im doin good, i liked the finale>>98250053Much love, daily stretching anti-inflammatory type shit>>98250054Gz senpai
>>98250037Blue looks better but dull it down and blend it a bit more with a wash over the top
>>9824989440k's protagonist is from 30k thoughbeit
>>98249926I’m actually doing better than I’ve ever been! over the past year and a half I’ve slowly become very sociable with others, and I (usually) no longer get embarrassed by conversations going badly because the experience of talking is so much fun in and of itself, and now I walk up to strangers to chat with them, I oftentimes will be leading conversations, and on a few occasions, I’ve even started plucking up the courage to ask pretty women out. thank you for asking, and also reading my blogpost :D
>>98250088Good shit anon love to hear it
>>98250037the absence of any blue in the white recipe makes blue on the black look odd and out of place
>>98250005>guilliman is not coming to the small kerfuffle on the cardboard and diarrheaOne of the books actually kinda justifies this by saying sometimes he just likes to blow off some steam by personally murdering something
>>98250085Guilliman is my nigga
>>98250107So guilliman is spiritually black?
Hello iam Indian
>>98250122Casino indian or gas station indian?
>>98250122I don’t believe youpost hand for proof
>>98250127*foot
>>98250004So do you just build, paint, play, toss right into the trash?
>>98250122>>98250127>>98250131please keep it on topic by posting a warhammer codex or box with it.thank you.
>>98249926lol no
>>98249556convergent development of telepathic apparati
>>98249539He wouldn't be part of that, he's a normal Zoat, not one of the nidded ones. Hive Fleet Colossus was probably a Genestealer Cult.
>>98250182I don't think the Zoatlore was ever updated to state they were a terrestrial species, the entire hive fleet was supposed to be Zoats previously enslaved by the hivemind fleeing and trying to avoid being biomassed out of existence now that the mivehind had no use for diplomats.
>>98250182We know jack shit about zoats in the current settinghe might come from zoats that have escaped the tyranids' clutches or he might still secretly be in the tyranids' clutches or that whatever connection there was between nids and zoats is now to be considered completely retconned
>>98250037Purple. You know this is the correct answer deep in your heart.
>>98250037do you want your models to look badly painted or unpainted?
I like orks :DFinished my painboy. Anyhow playing vs tau tomorrow what should I do?
>>98250160keep going anon we love you
>>98250135No but I just focus on one army and store my minis in closed bags
you should be able to put the Avatar in a wave serpentit's canon
>>98249695This image should be the other way around thoughbeit?
>>98249695I do one bare head per 5 models, gives some visual interest and lets me practice skin
can Goku solo 40k?
>>98250359No.Goku cannot solo 40k because he has a fear of needles.
Might join a slow grow league. Starts at 1k and goes up to 2k. My question is, is having a great unclean one at 1k unsportsmanlike? I plan on running mostly nurgle units with some bloodcrushers and bloodletters. I dont want to be a jerk. And if it is a bad choice what to take instead that offers some nurgle synergy. Demon prince +sloppity bile piper or a poxbringer maybe?
>>98250359>>98250359Yeah they are at multiverse power levels nowBut even then the emperor and the chaos gods cant conceptually be beaten soLol
>>98250383If its allowed go for it its not on you if it ends up being gay the orgamizers should make rules for shit like thatIf you try to be a good boy and not do it you may very well run into someone who doesnt give a shit and fields a primarch or some shit
>>98250335no way
>>98250379Depends. Is Ki powered by the warp and if so which chaos God gets to influence him when he draws upon it for power?
>>98249774>the great necron moggingis this why crypteks all have super long chins now? just to compete with the eldar?
11th edition is going to be huge for EC. Just wait and see.
>>98250413>slaaneshtoo pure hearted>nurgletoo hardworking>tzeenchtoo retarded>khorneThe only one that even has a chance, but he did already deal with the whole rage/emotion thing before.
Finally taking the plunge and getting into the game after admiring for a long time. Not sure if my first incursion list is gonna go over well and I was hoping to get some advice. Knight Crusader with RFBC (Mentor's Pride)4 HelverinSpearhead-at-ArmsAlso will this list last into 11th without getting fucked? Just for casual 1k games.
>>98250420Doesn't Goku fight just to prove how strong he is and test his own limits? That's 100% Slaanesh.
>>98250423We're already in 11th edition bro. It's a clusterfuck here and nobody knows anything about what's good yet.Also>Starting with Knights as your first armyGood luck with that
Well I decided the colour theme for my eldar army.SEEMS PRETTY EASY.Whish me luck.
>>98250426pretty sure goku would be claimed by gork and mork
>>98250436Sexy blue, I dig it.
>>98250432nta but whats wrong with knights as first army?
>>98250432Wait, is starting with Knights bad?
>>98250436glhf anon i like the color choice
No one wants to play against a 1000 point knights list.
>>98250450Nobody here wants to play 11th or40k in general forgive me if i dont care lol
>>98250383big elite units and tough models are more impactful at 1k, and unit points efficiency is also important. it is a little “unsportsmanlike” to run a GUO, but less so when they’re not terribly undercosted. especially if it is a one of, it’s not terribly offensive
>>98248638Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was quick and nimble and/or Blanchitsu and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my may collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's vote:https://strawpoll.com/YVyPva3lAgNHope to see a tribute or two to blanche
>>98250475>1 week left in the month>I haven't even startedfugg
>>98250450600 points, 27 lascannons, on 9 Heavy Weapons Teams. Enough left over for 2 Vanquishers.
>>98250423playing a knight list at 1,000 points is going to result in one of three types of games for you>tabling an inexperienced player or a player who built an all comers list that could pass the stat check for damage>you getting tabled by a player who can pass the stat check>non interactive chorehammer where your opponent shoot at you at most twice all game and buries you in score. Ive had fun games where someone splashes a knight as a center piece, I have never ever enjoyed playing against a full knight army, at any points level.
>>98250395>>98250467Hmmm. Well for reference the rest of my list is (were allowed 3 DP even though were starting at 1k points):Plague legion and warptideNurglings x 2Plaguebearers x 2Bloodletters + BloodmasterBloodcrushers (3)Plague drones (3)If i dropped the GUO I'd probably swap with a daemon prince, herald of nurgle and a beast of nurgle
>>98250423Running a 26 wound T11 towering unit with all those guns at 1k is unironically cancer. Your average casual player will probably look at your list and 360 out of there.
>>98250475Voting for going all outI want to see the pure distilled and unfiltered ambition of 40kgIn these dark times infinite skills create miracles and turn the desert to a well
>>98250503Even if its only 1?>>98250495I had kinda thought that with me only running 5 models and it basically being game over if the crusader went down was a good enough drawback.
>>98249926Painting my forgefiend tsons colors is driving me nuts after having not painted in like a yearvery tzeentchian, very immersive thank you james wokeshop
>>98250535Can we see a WIP?Im sure its going good anon you got this
The kill team will be Legions of the Damned or something Orky
>>98250546How u know dis?I like kill team
>>98248638>QuestionGetting swallowed whole by Red Terror :3
>>98250501those 4 models are t9, 14 wound walking tanks between their defensive profiles and the cover stacking minus one to hit they’re handing out means that there’s a large number of lists that simply will not be able to kill them at 1000>>98250501this guy’s GUO is a hard models to deal with at 1k, but the rest of his army is infantry and calvary, it isn’t a skew kist designed to invalidate large parts of an opponent’s army
>>98250555just do
How does everyone feel about the new leak that basic power armor is all going up by +1 Toughness in Codexes?
>>98250610wraithbone armor counts as power armorright?
>>98250610>give marines 2 wounds>give orks T5>give marines T5really?
Best bomber/plane/jet to use? I think the Heldrake and the Eldar and Dark Eldar jets look the coolest.
>>98250576Not my fault other people are worse at building teams than I am
>>98250610STOP THE FUCKING STAT INFLATIONRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>98250626The avenger is cool and 11th gives it a new niche as an artillery spotter unit.
These goobers have grown on me over time.
>>98250610>meltaguns wound vehicles on 5s>every melee unit in the game now wounds most infantry on 5sthey're setting this up to be a real fucking slog of a game
>>98250637you are setting yourself up for unbalance, you will crush and be crushed, no interesting or nuanced games for you. Knights suck.
>>98250651I considered getting back into the game this edition after skipping on every edition since 8th's nu40k Primaris blunder and Im not convinced. I'll have to see the new Ork and Eldar books (because those are the armies I play).
>>98250666Listen dude if other people cant build strong lists as good as me how is that my fault?Its GW job to balance the game and I’m just doing everything I can to win
>>98250666>Satan>opinion disregarded Knights are objectively based and people who don't listen tailor are casualfags.
>>98250522Unlike squads of infantry which decline linearly, vehicles don't get much weaker as they take damage. So unless your opponent has built a 1000 point list specifically to one-round a crusader, you're getting 2-3 rounds of unimpaired shooting into his dudes. With towering they can't hide from it. There's no counterplay just stats.General courtesy in 1000 point games where I am is no individual model over 200 points. I leave the repulsor executioner at home.
>>98250678this conversation started off with you asking about casual games, but okay. do you.
>>98250696>>98250503>>98250495Glad I learned all this before shelling out the cash. How is Khorne Daemonkin as a detachment. My second option was gonna be World Eaters with a few bloodthirsters mixed in.
>>98250672its getting to the point where im considering segregating my tables into marines and non marines tables. the marines tables where everyone can just powerarmorwank at each other all game and the other tables where xenos, guard, sisters and admech can all play actual warhammer.
Sisters are so awkward. They're stuck in between guard and marines and have an identity crisis as a result. They have some good tanks, but guard do that better. They can muster some numbers, but guard can do that better. Marines outshine them in all options and army rules, and even having fewer total number of models doesn't actually end up meaning anything if marines have a bunch of T6 and 2+ wounds models. An intercessor squad actually has more effective wounds and is harder to wipe than a sister squad, despite having fewer actual models. And this becomes twice as true when you start looking at Heavy Intercessors.Hell, even on the vehicles front, marines have them beat. Impulsors and Repulsors and Lancers and the like actually stack up favorably against rhinos, castigators, and the like. I would kill for a repulsor, it's only like 30 points more than an immolator for meaningfully more wounds, armor, guns, and the hop back in to hide special rule is sick.Marine army rules are also better. More variety of detachments, many of which are the same thing but literally strictly better (fordefather and firestorm vs bringers of flame), oath of moment is taken for granted and is actually pretty strong, and there's so much more flexibility to hone in on a strategy with the sheer number of named characters and support/leader marines have.Basically, whenever you say "wow marines are strong, and X unit is better than anything I have", people are quick to say "well their army rules might be worse elsewhere" but that's simply not true the more you examine. And people are also quick to say "well they have fewer models than you" but that's simply mathematically not true when you consider that T4 and T6 is meaningfully harder to kill so they actually have more effective staying power. And Intercessors are cheaper than Retributors/Dominions/Battlesisters too as the icing on the cake. They pay less for more effective wounds, better guns, and better army rules.
>>98250680>retard who needs autocorrect thinks his opinion matterslol
>>98250696we need to go back to the days where superheavies are 0-1 per 2k pts and unplayable below that
>>98250723In my experience grognards still play to table their opponents like it was popular in 3rd-5th editions. At my local club half of the older guys just struggled to score secondary objectives in 10th. I play Orks and have 100 infantry on the table at 1500pts. I can only win against some armies by scoring objectives every turn.
>>98250432Knights were a mistake. Knights as an army instead of a 1-of heavy support was a bigger mistake.
>>98250739Dictated but not read is an expression for a reason.
>>98250719Im just fucking with you lol im not the guy you originally responded to
If the Dorn had come out in 7th ed, would it have been a super heavy?
>>98250738i basically think of sisters like imperial eldar. low wounds and toughness but better saves than most horde armies, semi-elite pts costs, lots of bespoke aspect style units that specialize in one specific job like repentia, flagellants, seraphim, sacresancts, retributors. highly dependent on transports, highly dependent on a few small special named characters. historically had miracle rules that were somewhat similar to eldars fate manipulation. its an army of specialists and force multipliers that take mediocre profiles and create windows of opportunity for them rather than raw stat checks like marines
>>98250744They are objectively some of the best models GW has put out. I don't play at less than 1500pts anyway, usually 2000pts. Ive never had a problem facing Knights because if you can kill their objective scoring armigers you just need a out last their larger knights.
>>98250738Maybe making them all T4 this edition will make them less awkward.
>>98250763Sisters are like Dark Eldar in that they both are kind of copying the Eldar playstyles but have a way narrowed range of options to actually try to do so. Big damage when all their combos and resources line up, but super fragile
>>98250757nah, its big, but its only like land raider big. its on the upper end of regular vehicles but definitely still a regular vehicle.
>>98250767Maybe James should reconsider the arms race of offense that justifies T5 marines, which will eventually end up as "the only way not to inflict damage is to roll a 1 to hit after rerolling a 1"
>>98250779like here you can clearly tell super heavies are another size category all together
>>98250782But think how easy the math will be then.
>>98250795wtf land raider FW armor is that? and does anyone know a recaster that does it?
>>98250818Gay angel
>>98250818no idea, didnt see the regular land raider side view on minicompare so i just used that one, but it gets the point across.
>>98250749bro, that’s so much worse. I seriously doubt you actually own models.
>>98250844They're in storage at my mom's house. I have not played a game since the end of 7th.
>>98249633Are those conversions from AoS snakes or the old sslyth kit?
>>98250738intercessors and heavy intercessors are both insane at 80 and 100 points and I'm glad people are catching on. then you add all the characters and better+more detachments and it's stupid
I need a way to play 2000 point match in under 2 hours. I'm too old for this
>>98250872Play a different game lolLike video games or something
what would a votann flyer look like?
>>98250876But my dudes...
>>98250856Melusai from AoS
>>98250818>>98250827Dark Angel and Reinforced armor
>>98250872From 2006-2016 I was able to play a 2000pts game in 3 hours. The more recent editions have way more durable units.
>>98250879A giant flying bearded dwarf head would be preferred
>>98250882Xenos Rampant or OPR
>>98250879we know what they look like actually, they have plenty of pictures of them in their codexes artworkbasically flying hammers. if you've seen the star wars hammerhead corvette, probably something like that
>angiokeratoma on my balls>wont stop bleeding today after a showeris this a sign to start world eaters or blood angels?
>>98250897it's a sign to go to a fucking doctor you dumbass
A regular opponent of mine keeps batching that I take 2x20 stormboyz in my list every game at every points level. He says they are OP for contesting and holding objectives.Is he just being a bitch because hes claiming anything the Orks have is OP?
>>98250892
>>98250858Yeah I think that people forget their guns are base 2 shots and all of them are base 2 wounds. So 5 Intercessors is 10 wounds and fire 10 shots, just like 10 tacticals, or 10 sisters.And of course they have a special rule that makes them all shoot 4 shots, for 20 total shots, which is the same as a 10 model squad rapid firing....meaning they're 20 points less than a tactical squad, for the same number of wounds and the same number of shots in all conditions, or more shots in some conditions (outside rapid fire range). And let's not forget that the gun profile itself is better, they're bolters with Assault, Heavy, and rend 1. Literally just strictly better, for 20 points less. And it's not like they lose anything, they still have oath of moment and all their army rules and stuff.And don't even get me started on Heavy Intercessors, which are all T6 and 3W and all weird heavy bolters. For the same price as a Sisters squad, and LESS points than a retributor squad/domonions/etc. Games Workshop is crazy. It's really no wonder everyone plays marines.
>>98250897>bleeding ballssounds like a custom chapter to me
>>98250872Start with half your army in reserves.
>>98250903No I want just the head
>>98250899well my AI says its only a concern after 30 mins of pressure/ice.ill call my GP if it keeps going.>>98250908maybe.
>>98250900>2x20 stormboyz>max unit size is 10your opponent might have a legit complaint here
Has anyone here played a game of 11th yet?
Where's all the 11ED troves and pdfs, you fucking slackers? I'm not paying hundreds of dollars to those greedy faggot jews for this gay shit.
>>98250900>>98250931>orks>op>7thI played Sisters of Battle (before they got their agents codex super friend army rules)And I had to tone down my usual mech sisters list to face orks because I usually table him by turn 3MM Immolators filled with flamer sisters and Repressor with dominions and sisters usually fuck him up hard.Sisters where one of the worst armies during 7th
>>98251006This. Ive learned as much as I can from Auspex Tactic's YT channel talking about changes. I need to read it for myself.
>>98250795>main battle tank>hey gunner you stand outside the back on this little cuck platform and man the MGkek, 40GAY is so motherfucking stupid its unreal. its like a fat faggot loser bug light
>>98251011this place used to have links to everything before it even came out. now half of these newfag fucking retards don't even know how to share files or would rather suck GW corporate ballsack because it makes them feel better about their worthless existence. its fucked mate.
>>98251012I also play Dropzone Commander but its way harder to find opponents.
>>98250997yes, I had good time, played 1k vs chaos marines, I can’t say it’s dramatically better or different than 10th yet. based on 1 game. I didn’t like that my light cover pipes and stockades completely block los.the battleshock change is great. it didn’t make the game unfair in my favor, but it actually matter, it affect the score, and for the first time in 10 games of dark eldar, I used my archon’s “unbattleshock a unit” power.
>>98251012are you new to warhammer? the stupid is the point
>>98250915update, stopped bleeding after 23 minutes.
>>98251017Yeah. I remember during 5th edition everything was posted here before the official release.
>>98251028>we like being retards getting fleeced out of our moneykek, what a cool hobby bro
>>98251022a much cooler and better-made game, which is why the legions of fat faggot 40GAY retards won't every play it. GW seems to have nailed their target audience perfectly, and it's the 80% of NPC's in the Pareto principle.
>>98251006No piracy.Piracy hurts all.
>>98251044Fuck you
>>98251041Yeah, I play Shaltari. I was expecting teleporter shenanigans but most of the time that is limited to my infantry bouncing around the board, the big walkers are better suited to area denial for aircraft while firing from long range. My grav tanks do most of the lifting in the list.
The core rules are free and the printed books are out of date already.
>>98251012it's a thing that was actually done historically apparently
>>98248725Pretty much any flesh fusion monster is possible and lore friendly because of the Covens. I'm surprised GW doesn't do anything with that, they could put a lot of crazy shit in the coven roster, the sky is the limit
>>98251012The cuck platform is dumb, but gunners on the outside is not a 40k invention. GW has never invented anything beside skaven, everything is a copy from something else.
>>982510305th was made to infect the local population with the cumsumer virus. It was like AIDS and Crack for faggots and niggers.
>Buy a new red>Try it>It's orangeWell I guess it's on me for believing something called resplendent red would be red.Fuck you army painter.
>>98251104The only good thing about 4th edition is the custom faction rules in the marine and guard codexs.
>>982511394th with 3rd army rules is the sweet spot. 5th have some salvageable mechanics, like insane bravery and a less retarded damage table for vehicles.
>>98248692Nothing exciting yet, still plowing through the building process, mostly sticking to instructions for my first set aside from a few personal grievances like removing topknots and horned helms on boyz, and having a dislike for there being two grenadiers per 10 boyz.
>>98251181I was actually flipping through my old 3rd ed Ork codex and while some of it has not aged well I remember have a lot more fun with that army list than with anything in the last 6 years.
>>98251130what a way to find out you're colour blind
>>98251130proacryl has great reds. check out bold pyrole red if you are looking for REDonly thing i'll say is it does work best over a lighter undercoat if you really want it to pop
>>98251214I admit that there are some stinkers like Dark Eldar.But even Witch Hunters with all its problem regarding restriction in list building is way more fun than current stuff.Hell even GSC are fun and their official rules are absolute ass.
The more I look at the nu-coteaz model the more it pisses me off. Nothing about it makes sense. Why are several purity seals waxed onto the fur part of his cloak? Ignore how ugly, shitty, and amateur every millimeter of the model is for a second. Why is he pressing a wax seal onto a surface that's soft and not flat? Fuck I hate this model.
>>98251219Retard
>>98251238is there some reason someone might hate coteaz similar to how someone might hate eldar? maybe there’s a dude frothing at the mouth over coteaz, and intentionally fucked him up out of spite. there’s just way too many things that went completely wrong for it to be a complete accident.
>>98251232Ive seen people posting on this board talking about how they still play older editions. I wish that was possible for me but since I moved towns a few years ago I don't have any regular opponents, just random pickup games.
>>98251258You could do some very trolly and cheap things with Coteaz during 9th.
>>98251258My hypothesis is that coteaz was given as a sort of trial run to a new modeler under the reasoning "it's inquisition who gives a shit if he screws it up?"I honestly think the sanctifiers were made by the same guy they look similarly shitty.
>>98251287they also came out very close in timeframe to coteaz, so take that as you will.
>>98251268I have friends that I play older editions and random games with.Recently manage to make them play Void Admiral.But 40k gravitational pull is so big that it is a constant battle, worst part everyone is using the same models they had since 3rd/4th some random modern models but hardly anything to be concern. So it is easy as hell to play older things.
>>98251059DZC is a fun game but I still think the Scourge is OP.
>>98251012>He doesn't know
>>98251296The last time I was able to get my group to play a new game was Full Thrust using the custom starship rules. Extremely well balanced custom rules too. It lasted for 4 weeks (we used to meet every Sunday) and then it was back to 40k.
>>98250436It's actually just a series of stipples so once you have the colors it's pretty simple.
>>98251006The fuck are you on about?The rules are available for free and the other shit like codexes havent come out yet you goober you still use the 10e codexes for now
>>98250610What's the leak source?
>>98251017You do it then cuck lmao
>>98251323Absolutely based game. Writing all your orders out and then resolving simultaneously works way better than it sounded on paper.
>>98251012standing outside the armor to man the MG is pretty normal.
>>98250642Crossboard reposting again, anon?
>>98251034Some people like silly goofy shit anon
>>98251034Why are you here then, Mr too cool for 40K?
>>98248838Never be afraid to paint up a unique alt scheme squad or two. Like a veteran color scheme or something.
>>98251374Cuz he likes 40k lol
2 cadian castellans, primaris psyker, 30 kasrkin in a stormlord, plus 4 AFVs, and 4 armored sentinel is...JUST 1475 points. What would I do to bring it to 2k without compromising the partybus centerpiece of the list? It's stupid I might as well have 1 kasrkin partybus and 1 tempestus scion partybus because I could STILL fit fucking AFVs in that list.
>>98251417AFVs? I know what it means but what model are you using? The new Hippogriff?
>>98249857Build > Prime > Spend a full year trying to decide on a paint scheme > Lose interest in the hobby
>>98251434Yep.
>>98251454>he's going for itabsolutely based
>>98248838Yes and that’s how I ended up with 5 marine armies.
>>98248804>be me, waacfag>play my favorite OP faction>use my backup non painted army, lose by 10 points every time>opponent submits win>my faction win rate stays low so i dont get nerfed
>>98251442I have to admit the new Hippogriff's weapon options are very good for the points.
>>98251498golly, what a shock that the new Imperium unit is worth the points. What a bold statement, sir.
>>98251454I'd file the wheels down to represent the suspension bottoming out under the weight of the gun.
>>98251502Back in my day that wasn't a given.
>>98251559Back in your day women couldn't have credit cards
>>98248692>Post some modelsa WIP I'm in the progress of working on
>>98251417Grab a Dorn or some Russes.
>>98251559Back in your day TV was black and white and only showed stuff for 16 hours of the day
>>98251012>he doesn't know about the goat
>>98251130Citadel reds are fantastic anon. Just get them.
>>98251562And thats bad because…?
>>98251602Ow the edge
>>98251592>>98251562Im only 40 lol
>>98251610Okay gramps, settle down
>>98251028So where was this level of stupid in the past?>inb4 some light scout vehicle
>>98251604Not an edge thing genuinely why is it bad to avoid exposing women to usury?
>>98251615Yeah, the salamander was a pointless unit.
>>98251625Gramps was right anon
>>98251627I hate roads too anon.
>>98251642Yeah especially when theyre full of potholes despite all the money we pay to have functioning roads that wont break your fucking car for driving the speed limit
>>98251360>>98251083Examples? At best I've seen infantry fighting with the tank getting on top and manning one of the pintle guns, but not as something in tank doctrine. Historically, mounting an pintle machine gun primarily for AA towards the back was not for the gunner to stand on the engine deck, but to have it out of the way. There's plenty of images of tanks and TDs with a pintle gun mounted towards the back of the turret, pointing rear. Doesn't matter if the machine gun is pointing forwards or backwards, as long as you can access it from the cupola, and when shooting at an incoming plane, doesn't matter if you rotate the front or the back of the turret towards it.
>>98251621I need to hear how you think that's related to this at all.
>burgers in charge of not making absolutely everything political
>>98251645You can still visit bottom in Paris
>>98249864>scale creep makes them look puny.Any model you use is going to look puny in 3 years cuz gw designers are retarded anywaysJust put them on some cork
Someone make a new general, this one is getting to political.
>>98251695>birthright over compassion for othersThis but unironically
>>98251084BECAUSE ITS 10TH.They cant make anything creative because something creative isnt trademarkable. So everything has to boiled down to 10 models. The infinite creativity of daemons, chaos spawn, deldar flesh amalgamations... they are all just 3 or 4 things max now and can never be anything else.Thank the Chapterhouse lawsuit.
The Emperor would press the blue button
oh boy I sure love discussing warhammer forty thousand
>>98248692got some fun shit in the mail
>>98251738Yeah thats why the thread is so activeWhich models are yours?
>>98251733It's not my fault the middle east needs to be put back in its place. I hope we start attacking Middle Eastern enclaves in Europe next.
>>98251739Uh nigga the only other option is war so?
Just posting my deathwatch
Imagine coming into a thread about a wargame hobby that appeals mainly to young men, featuring armies of knightly armoured space racists based around exaggerated ideals of traditional masculinity, and shilling for people to vote for gay tranny feminist man-hating satanic demoncrats, and thinking it will go over well. Kek.
>>98251758Good shit anon
>>98251758
>>98251765>featuring armies of knightly armoured space racists based around exaggerated ideals of traditional masculinityWhoosh
>>98251765Imagine thinking this thread isnt entirely populated by pissed off terminally online young-ish men you dipshit lmao
>>98251765/thread
>>98251767
>Enter GW to see them playing Kill Team>Girl is playing Adeptus Sororitas>Tranny is playing Night Lords
>>98251758I keep wanting to start a Deathwatch army at some point, but I'm worried GW is gonna squat them. I guess worst case scenario I can just run them as regular marines, but still.
>>98251776
>>98251772Why are you agreeing with me and insulting me at the same time, are you confused?
>>98251765>based around exaggerated ideals of traditional masculinityLike grooming young boys? At least there is one thing Marines and the far-left have in common.
>>98251785Because I love/hate you anon
>>98251789The difference is the Marines groom them to be proud warriors, leftists groom them to get raped by homosexuals and cut their dicks off.
>>98251779you used the exact same reaction gif I did one minute apart from me. Get out of my head
>>98251783>>98251781Most stuff can be run as regular marines, and even the unique stuff can sort of be run as regular marines. Xenophase blade can just be a power sword. If they squat the veterans with guns and shields you can just rebase them on call them bladeguard or lieutenants. I don't think there's much of a real threat of the models being totally unusable
>>98251808
>>98251813If you weren't a secondary you would be aware that the seed is used to grow the organs separately and these are then surgically implanted. But the seed creating new life passing down from father to son is indeed very manly.
I think the important thing we can all agree on is that everyone should export more wealth to the UK via plastic purchases because they really need it right now
>>98251828>my shitposting is okay because other people shitpostedsubhuman retard
>>98251823>Um, actually the all-male group that grooms and indoctrinates young boys only puts foreign organs inside the boys!Idk, anon...sounds kind of gay
>>98251821
>>98251860This.
>>98251860Yeah fair enoughAnyway I’m fully night-lords-pilled at this point bros
>>98251825To quote a Britannian motherThe things have to get worse before they get better
>>98251838Based modelposter going strong in a sea of autistic shitflinging
>>98251838Holy snap, recipe?
Now that the dust has settled, did we get any 10th edition wrapped data for the whole three year run? Like tournament data or tabletop battles app tracking or anything?
>>98251808True. I might just pull the trigger on that one boxset they got recently with the 10 DW vets + corvus blackstar with my next paycheck.
HEAVY IntercessorsCome one, come all, get your 15 T6 wounds for only 100 points! https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/bv04D
>>98251990>howls in anti-infantry 3+nothing personnel kid
>>98251910It's just a fluorescent glaze
>>98251956That's actually a pretty good buy and the vets are great if you get cheap tacticus bodies to kitbash the leftover parts with. You actually get the gear/weapons for 24 vets in that box.Corvus Blackstar is a cool model and that's it. If you play the DW detachment you literally won't have any use for it or any other transports because your kill teams will be teleporting.You can play the models in that box as either DW veterans or Decimus/Aquila Kill Team (same thing, Aquila is just the name they have in Imperial Agents for some reason). There's really no reason to run Decimus as vets are just straight up better.The DW-only Black Spear detachment is really good but Bastion is actually also good for DW because vets are battle line which means you can advance, shoot frag cannons, and charge with thunder hammers.
>>98252042
>>98252042>You actually get the gear/weapons for 24 vets in that box.Wait, for real? God damn.
>>98252057Sorry I can't count, 22. You get two 5 man kits, each kit is 3 tacticus 1 phobos 1 gravis but you get the weapons/gear for 6 tacticus 2 phobos 3 gravis.Tacticus: Bolter, pistol and xenophase blade, plasma pistol and power sword, plasma, thunder hammer, mace and shieldPhobos: Oculus bolt rifle, knivesGravis: Frag cannon, infernus heavy bolter, shotgunYou also get a ridiculous number of heads and shoulders for various chapters
>>98251956Its the new DW though, the old kit is better.
>>98252070Not bad. It'll definitely make kitting out an army easier. How many DW pauldrons does it come with? I'm assuming the bare minimum.
>>98252109Yeah just the 5 (so 10 in the armageddon box) for DW pauldronsAnd if you want to kit out your gravis with pauldrons, each DW upgrade kit only comes with one gravis/terminator one so for all 6 in the armageddon box you'd need 4 more adding up to $69. Just get someone to print them for you.
Are Drukhari as fun to play as they look? I love the whole Yar-Har Space Pirate thing they have going on with their boats
>>98252167I wouldnt know because my old boat combat patrols that I bought 2 of before they got replaced remain unassembled for a rainy day in the future.
I remember those old ass beastmen models from like 30 years ago. Funny they got a contemporary reference
Why does GW oscillate between having a psychic phase or not every few editions? What makes it problematic, and why do they want it back every so often?
>>98252189have you not seen the 10th ed beastmen models?
>>98251651The .50 on the sherman was specifically for anti aircraft use so it was intended to be fired by someone standing on the engine deck rather than someone in a cupola, which is why it's mounted further back like this. The M5 stuard had a similar mount but for a .30, I believe. Most of the .50s on American vehicles were intended for anti-aircraft use.
What's a better place to buy minis from, miniswap or ebay? Good chance of getting scammed?
its a small detail but i think its cool the cadian recon squad gives you a choice between normal lasguns or "tactical" lasguns for all your dudes in the squad>pic unrelated
>>98251651Audie Murphey famously won the medal of honor using the turret MG on a burning tank.
>>98252194they should just go whole hog like aos and have not only psychic power lores, but also full on model summon lores too
>>98252184Yeah, when I see the models, I imagine Mardi Gras Pirates
>>98252242tank destroyer
>>98252184I wish I had gotten those.
>>98252220i've bought from both and never been scammed by either. just follow best practices. if its ebay do a little research on the profiles history. ebay also has better seller protections so if there is a scam you can get your money backminiswap always make sure the listing has recent pictures with the product, the users name, a very recent date, and only accept using paypal goods and services. anything else besides that is likely a scam unless its a trade army for army, and personally i would never trade via mail, thats a recipe to get scammed, only in person local trades at a safe mediated environment like a FLGS with security cameras or some states/countries have safe trade spots established. something like a coffee shop with security cameras might also be acceptable but a non miniature store place might get a bit iffy with you guys doing a trade there. just go with your gut, trust the community guidelines and advice, and if an offer seems too good to be true or a potential seller or trader seems squirelly about the means they want to use for the transaction, pull out. as far as i've seen the worst for scammers where people actually get scammed has been the facebook swap groups.
Would I get looks or questioned if I made a Night Lords army where all the flayed skin is brown but all the helmetless Night Lords are white?
why the hell have we been getting raided by pol so much today?
>>98252269you could get away with it if it was salamanders black
>>98252273new edition
What's a fun name for my little guy
>>98252269Depends on where you live I guess. A guy at my old LGS had an IG army with tons of ogryn and they were all black while the normal humans were white. No one really cared.
>>98252213I know whenever I'm under air attack, I want to be outside of the tank, exposed to machine gun fire and bomb shrapnel, rather then inside of the tank and operating the machine gun from the commander's cupola. Especially when all of the controls are conveniently placed so that they're operable from the cupola, while anyone standing on the deck would have to climb on top to reach some of the controls. Also, if the turret is turned towards any other direction than forward, you don't have much room to stand on.>The M5 stuard had a similar mount but for a .30, I believe.The Stuart mount was on the side of the turret.I've yet to come across any documentation that the crew is suppose to be outside of the tank to operate the AA gun. Only times I've seen photos of it being done is in movies/shows, reenactment, or on tanks that are not in direct combat.
>>98252294N1993R? I think it's a cool and lore friendly name
>>98252298>the crewit wouldn't be the crew, it would be an infantryman
>>98252242Sure, but it doesn't make it normal nor was he part of the vehicle's crew. Infantry operating with tanks have climbed on top to operate pintle weapons, like pic related. But the guy on the Dorn is not some Cadian guardsman who hitched a ride, he's suppose to be part of the crew.
Justify the story element of a battle between two Sisters armies where both have Saint Celestine.
>>98252319Justify shutting the fuck up.
>>98252319>>98204018
>>98252319Warp shenanigans. One of them is the fake Celestine and the Sisters following that one are heretics.Whoever loses was the fake one.
>>98252319One of them is a fraud and must burn.
>>98248804Never, no one bothers to play tournaments without bare minimum tabletop ready models at tournaments where it's actually enforced at check in, and no one enforces it at the LGS, ever. People are always bringing WIP's to play.
>>98252030What brand? Those gimmick paints are often shit from my experience.
>>98252425Acrysion, Gaianotes and Vallejo fluorescents are great. You probably used stuff not meant for minis like the shit they sell in hardware stores meant to go on fishing lures, or used them wrong.
>>98248804Happens to me a lot. Every now and then a game is a blowout, but I always track the painted points and I try to keep my games even. Most games are decided by 10-12 points.
>>98252319My celestine is actually Saint Bartemia the Stern, an unrelated Imperial Saint who looks similar.
Question for y'all I play knights for my 2k army list, I've been told it will not be fun for my friends if I play them at 1K, so I'm trying to think of what army I should build as my 1K point list. I'm primarily playing knights because I don't enjoy moving around a bunch of little dudes I like the big models small amounts of characters.
>>98252425try Golden soflat fluorescent paints
>>98252460>goldMaybe custodes? They'r pretty cheap too.
I love seeing skilled painters able to simulate a glow effect with just creative color placement.not mine, just an example I found
>>98252460If you want an elite army (so fewer models), it goes:>Imperial Knights>Chaos Knights>Adeptus Custodes>Grey Knights>Space Marines>Chaos Space Marines>Votann
