TQ
Doesn't matter as long as it's rich with diversity and female representation.

>TQ:
Dying game, or dead game? Sound off in the comments.

>>98250045
Looks a bit too small and spindly to be ogres imo
>>98250079
>>98250089
Shoo shoo back to your dead thread

>>98250068
>TQ
How about a siphonophore race where the basic troop is a chaff unit but they can join together to make bigger and more deadly amalgamations

>>98250095
>Shoo shoo back to your dead thread
This is the only thread I post in on this dying board.

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The new army is based on sandwurm muslims, because some GW guy watched DUNC 3 years ago

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>TQ

Most likely new army other than the stupid dark elves, I'd make a bet on no more new chaos armys, but it's a mix up between gundead of some description (pirates or zombie cities) or Beastmen again.

What I'd want... Honestly I would enjoy a faction of weird centaur freaks like Kragnos, or like "remnants" faction for destro that are all the old chaos critters that got abandoned by the gods, Fimir, beastmen, dragon ogres, all that kind of thing but now having them join kraggy and his funny crew. (I think it'd be neat having Kragnos have these weird followers who are also more unique like him)

>>98250101
Completely plausible. Also the next elder scrolls game is this too.

>>98250103
I say unique, I should verify I mean more in the way of Kragnos is literally just like, last of his species. Also I'm dumb, beastmen would be a chaos army I'm getting my own bullshit mixed up WOOPSY.

BUT remnants would be destro.

>>98250103
I'd love a unit of kraglets but I think it'd be difficult to squeeze a full faction out of. They could be an elite unit in a sort of reimagined beastmen type army though
>>98250110
>the next elder scrolls
That thing only got announced to get more money from microsoft during the buyout

>>98250130
>I'd love a unit of kraglets but I think it'd be difficult to squeeze a full faction out of. They could be an elite unit in a sort of reimagined beastmen type army though

I've been pushing beastmen being brought back as a destro faction just because I think they'd have better luck there than continually being second banana to STD

>>98250130
>That thing only got announced to get more money from microsoft during the buyout
Yeah but Microsoft will now be holding a gun to their heads about it.

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>>98250130
>That thing only got announced to get more money from microsoft during the buyout
Im suprised Microsoft is not forcing Bethesda to make new Fallout or just force them to give IP for someone else.

>>98250095
When exactly is the last time this game had any real news?

>>98250177
Last week? Tourist-kun?

>>98250101
I'm pretty sure that would get Warhammer World bombed

Umbraneth is never happening lol.

>>98250247
Literally confirmed by leakers

>>98250103
They could create a new faction of beastmen with appearances like bears, canines, felines, boars, birds, reptiles, etc., and give them to destruction, making them something like the living manifestation of Ghur—wild and bestial creatures.

>>98250247
correct, because the name of the faction gw has been using since at least 2022 is ulgurothi
and the leaks for the last world also confirmed a location called ulguroth

>>98250068
Unfortunately, drocucks.

>>98250266
What if they tied people together to use as awkward mounts in the same way people use horses, like a parody of man thing

>>98250695
There's one beastmen story where they describe a village afflicted by whatever the fuck magic follows beastmen, and it had the humans crawling around on all fours without their wits while the farm animals were walking around their hind legs and speaking in strange tongues. Always found that description quite eerie.

>>98250068
If its a brand new army and not shadow elves, then probably those generic duardin ive been hearing about. Of course by "New army." They could mean a new model line for an army like ogors.

>>98250716
I don't think the new army mentioned by gw is just ogres, dwarfs are still a while away based on rumour details and rumour engines.
That being said I guess gw could decide to reverse things to surprise us, but I don't consider it very likely

>>98250068
>What do you think is the most likely new army to come to the game, aside from Malerion's elves?
its inevitably another human army. Or at least one that has humans in it. Will it be chaos, or order aligned? Who knows. I just know cities of sigmar arent really the protagonist faction that the other settings have with their weak guys. Cities are more of a dogs of war faction in the making, just with less race mixing.

>>98250708
I sort of remember that story and you're right, it was pretty sinister. It's a real shame they've never really leaned into that side of them because it'd make for some great novels or what have you. In a similar vein there's some art from one of the old codexes where people are being transformed into beastmen and their entire skeletons are erupting from their backs, like their new form is rejecting even that base level of humanity. I always thought that was a fantastic concept

>>98250851
>Cities are more of a dogs of war faction in the making
Huh? How do you figure? I do not see this at all.

>>98250708
That's like the whole premise of beastslayer with gotrek and felix

>>98250881
Its mostly the last world rumors that are making me see them as that for now, but they really are more of an auxiliary force for some of the more influential cities.

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alright so im just coming back and i've got a decent sized maggotkin collection but its based around a lot of putrid blightkings, like probably half my army is them and their support heroes because for the first 3 editions they were the bread and butter of nurgle

but i've heard that the newest warscroll annihilated them, and after looking it over i kind of agree. what do i do? rebase them as rotswords? shelf the army until next edition? or do you think the points on them can go low enough that they're somewhat playable?

they seem really really bad now, i dont know what to do

>>98251013
keep on the 40mm bases and use as rotswords

>>98251013
They have enough reason to be seen in play but I think its just one off stuff.
>shelf the army until next edition
I know they were probably the core of the army but surely you must have had other stuff in nurgle besides just them? Demons, the fly knights, all of them are good with the exception of like, maybe the beast of nurgle.

>>98251013
Round here we call those Faggotkin, you stupid Endrinigger.

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why does the sword look like balls and a shaft.

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>>98250068
>Thread questions
>aside from Malerion's elves
There is no other option. I just started up a DoK army, so now, as per tradition, GW must either squat my faction or roll it into another - in this case, that would be the (not)Dark Elves.

Honestly, I'm kinda with this anon >>98250103
though. I'd like to see a weirder new faction - but maybe something centred around intelligent insects, as opposed to centigors, but with extra steps. Realistically, it'll probably be something like an ogres refresh, with the older scuplts getting primed to move over to TOW.

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>>98251062
because nurgle's symbol is a cock and balls
because he's a fertility god at the end of the day

>>98251088
>intelligent insects

I figure that could be part of these random weirdos faction. "Silent people" could finally get in and join in on Kragnos, they are technically from Ghur.

>>98251147
Maybe it's just my personal bias against Kragnos, but I'd rather just see an insect faction be their own thing, and stuff like the beastmen or Fimir just be rolled into existing chaos factions. Honestly, I'd be super happy seeing more mono-god chaos-aligned stuff - like, more slaangor units, Tzeentchian Fimir sorcerers, or Khornate dragon ogres.

>>98251062
Reference to a Bollock Dagger but as a Sword?

>>98251040
>surely you must have had other stuff in nurgle besides just them?

i've got a mix of stuff here and there but i would probably need to sink another $200-300 to get back up to a coherent 2k army if im not taking the blightkings and their corresponding units.

>>98251062
Nurgle's symbol is a short, fat penis with a large ballsack

>>98251218
Interestingly, fimir were part of GA destruction. I dunno if they ever bothered explaining how that works since the only lore we had on them was from 2 warscrolls.

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>>98251256
i know we're all meme'ing here but im pretty sure its ackshtually based off the international biohazard symbol for biological contaminants

>>98251275
I guess they're like hobgrots where they're nasty little shits who'll work for multiple factions

>>98251147
>"Silent people" could finally get in and join in on Kragnos
I've been suggesting it for a while: centaurs+beeople+wurms in an atypical nomadic horde

the centaurs' stamping guides the wurms, the wurms tunnels and poop get used as starting point for the insects' living mountain hives, and they all merrily march along, with the centaurs taking advantage of the wurms as battering rams or to create routes, and using the silent people as scouts and flankers

>>98251276
it's not a meme, anon >>98251095

>>98251275
It was just FW being lazy and throwing all monstrous arcanum monsters they had under the destruction keyword

If you think the new army is anything but the rumored Khazalid Holds I really think you're setting yourself up for disappointment

>>98251404
I don't think anyone thinks otherwise for right now, though admitedly it's probably ogors for this announcement then khazlid next.

>>98251404
the one they're revealing on the 26th is not dwarfs, it's ogres

>>98251404
>Khazalid Holds
This would be a bizarre decision if true. The only way I can rationalize it is if GW is looking to consolidate KO, FS, and a potential holds range into a single dwarf faction.
I seriously doubt there's enough demand for dwarfs to fully support four separate dwarf factions, and a vestigial element in CoS.

>>98251488
there's no vestigial element in cos, and the rumormongers already confirmed khazalids are taking fyreslayers under them, and for now just them

>>98251488
Helsmiths and Khazalid are a lot of dorfs for one edition but I suspect Khazalid will be a 5th army with only a tease at the end of 4th.
Fyreslayers will not get a battletome has been the prevailing rumour, what if it's just a supplement for a sampling of new stuff instead? Just a spearhead or something before 5th

>>98251385
I'm pretty sure monstrous arcanum had rules for shit like the skaven brood horror or whatever it was called, and maybe tamurkhan too both of which certainly were chaos

>>98251488
>>98251529
Like >>98251503 said khazalids aren't really a new army, just a rebranded and expanded fyreslayers, hence the latter not getting a tome (under the original name) this edition.
KO will stay their own thing and dorfs have been fully pruned from CoS bringing us to 3 dwarf armies: Kharadron, Khazalids, and Zharrdron (helsmiths).

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When will Seraphon get a centerpiece model?

>>98251704
We're we doing this meme again

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>>98251704
if you want a big feathered trex just get the conquest one and put a saurus on it. its plastic, its got a couple poses, and it looks good. run it with a mega gargant merc profile or something

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>>98251814
>>98251704

>>98251704
Dinosaurs ruled the Earth for 120,000,000 years. I don't think people understand just how long 120 million years actually is. They ruled from periods where it was hotter and more oxygen, to cooler and less oxygen. Lots of dinosaurs likely had feathers. Many of them had scales. Some likely had scales with frills or 'spikes' of hair. To claim dinosaurs are either all scaly or all feathers is fucking retarded.

As for 'famous' dinosaurs, such as the T-Rex, we know, for 100% fact, it was scaly and not covered in feathers. As we have fossilised remains of its scales which usually do not survive the process.

As for Seraphon, they've always had both traditional scaly lizard dinosaurs to feathered dinosaurs and adjacent (such as culchans).

>>98251404
It comes down to semantics. Mawtribes are all but confirmed since they said 'greedy' and 'always hungry' but can you really call a refresh a new army?

>>98251986
This is GW. Where releases can be said to be coming in X month and the pre-order will be on the last weekend of the month and actually release in the month after. Renaming the army and releasing enough kits will definitely count as a new army in their book.

>>98251629
>>98251488
The 'leakers' claim that Fyreslayers get merged into Dispossessed who are no longer Dispossessed, as they go on crusades to reclaim their lost holds and many left Sigmar's cities to go and live with the Fyreslayers. What this means is that Fyreslayers now have non-Grimnir worshippers in their ranks, but followers of Grungni and who wear armour and stuff. The idea being you can run all 'Dispossessed' or 'Fyreslayers' or do a united Khazalid Holds faction. It's a way to keep 'traditional dwarfs' in the game, but separate them from TOW.

Remember, GW is purposefully changing ALL models that are either legacy or have equivs in TOW to be visually and design different. It's why LRL are different to HE. It's why HoH are different to LoA. It's why CoS are different to Empire. It's why Skaven are 'more advanced' than they are in WHFB. It's why Seraphon now have metal shields, not scale shields. It's why Kroxigors look radically different to old Kroxigors. It's so GW can bring them back to TOW and use the 'old' minis to sell for people who want to play TOW.

The same will happen to Witch Elves. They will be put either into shorts (at best) or more likely, bodysuits. The 'problematic' bikini elves will be silently pushed into TOW for the grogs to buy for TOW. They've already done this with the warband being in bodysuits and the new unit too. It's why the ogres are losing their guns and becoming more grug. To differentiate them from ogres in TOW. It's why Darkoath are different to Marauders. If TOW releases are the claimed Chaos Knights + Warriors, that'll support my claim even more (but it's probably just new generic Chaos Dragon).

Anyway, that's what they're doing. They'll be similar to 8th WHFB dwarfs, but will be visually distinct and have different names. You'll see. As for why in AoS? To give Fyreslayers some visually interesting armies. It also allows them to set up The Last World End Times event.

>>98251986
It is specifically a new army because it is radically changing the design to separate it from Ogre Kingdoms. Which I've mentioned here >>98251995

It's all about having visually distinct settings. You want to know why Primaris exist? So Horus Heresy doesn't confuse people. It's why Space Marines will soon just be Primaris and have Bolt Rifles, while CSM will still use old 'traditional' bolters. But it still allows them to visually separate from HH (again, see difference between Daemon Primarchs in the systems). That's all GW is doing. Eventually all the 'old legacy' models will be replaced with new, corporate friendly models (as I said regarding Witch Elves) and AoS can be safely sold to the masses without pissing off the UK government who will want IDs to buy a model with side boob showing.

>>98251995
>'traditional dwarfs'
>separate them from TOW.
It really doesnt achivce that, its just another case of AoS team grabbing onto stuff before TOW, so they can keep it, which is imo dumb.

Theres no reason to include the wolf fuckers, give them to TOW, theres no reason to bring in the Chorfs, left them for TOW, while there are AoS only armies starving for attention.

>>98252009
>its just another case of AoS team grabbing onto stuff before TOW
>so they can keep it
>something that was going to be done in third edition before tow was a thing, only to be delayed because of covid and supply issues that affected gw in general

>>98251995

only reason chaos warriors being replaced is because its the only faction that sells even slightly in tow lel the system is fighting for scraps

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>>98251999
>>98251995
>If TOW releases are the claimed Chaos Knights + Warriors, that'll support my claim even more
It really doesn't.

>>98252018
>something that was going to be done in third edition before tow was a thing, only to be delayed because of covid and supply issues that affected gw in general
TOW was anounced since like 2018 or something.
Either way, theres literally no reason to include a 3rd Dwarf faction, especially one that doesnt do anything of nore with the concept of "chaos dwarfs" besides the angular art deco designs, its fundamentally the same faction

>>98251958
Velociraptor is probably the second most "famous" dino after t-rex and it probably had feathers (both the actual velociraptor and deinonychus)

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>>98251995
>getting into DoK just in time for GW to slap burqas on them
Fuck me if true, I guess.
I'm already committed to spitefully sculpting bare breasts and metal accents on my witch elves with green stuff, but it's not too late to go whole hog and start removing loincloths as well. Lord knows the witch elf models need more visual variety.

>>98251995
Lrl were designed well before tow was even announced, Skaven are not more advanced than the whfb ones, kroxigor look different now because the old ones looked like shit, etc.
Designs just change over time, this was the case back in whfb too. Not everything has to be credited to the tow/aos split. Even in cases where there actually was a (probable) intentional reimagining/deviation from previous designs, like lumineth.
Keep in mind gw had absolutely 0 expectations for tow. They just wanted to dump some old stock for nostalgiabuxx and *maybe* cash in on some zoomers with cathay, which they had already designed because of total war. The idea that tow can be a real semi-mainline alternative to aos, and therefore requiring some degree of visual separation between the respective ranges, thus only would've come up from 2024 onwards. In design cycle terms, the impact of this will only appear in models starting from 2027 at the earliest, as we know gw generally works on a 3-4 year cycle for miniatures to go from concept to real product on the shelves.
Also lmao at the idea of primaris being made with horus heresy in mind

>>98252104
>Skaven are not more advanced than the whfb ones
This is my second largerst gripe with the 4th ed skaven wave.
We will go out of our way to make a new base design, which was uncalled for, the blood bowl and underwoprlds skaven were fine, just make the clanrats newer with more poses. But they refused to make any actually new fun units, give me cyborg stormvermin or smth

>>98252062
>OW was anounced since like 2018 or something.
What does that have to do with anything. Also Chaos dwarves were mentioned since 1st edition aos. Its not something that came out of nowhere.
>theres literally no reason to include a 3rd Dwarf faction,
Ancestor god dynamics is what GW is playing with when it comes to duaradin.

>>98252114
>give me cyborg stormvermin
quite possibly the gayest request I've seen from someone wanting out of skaven and I used to get requested to do thanqull x queer headtaker art.

>>98252114
I mean between the warpblaster, the brood terror, and the weapons team variant that has electricty and shit it's not like there's been no new skaven contraptions.
I just think anon was wrong to claim this is somehow more advanced than what they were pulling off in whfb. Seems perfectly in line to me.

>>98252133
I wonder if they're gonna make pestilence more innovative.

>>98251986
I'd call it a refresh because the models are from 2002, 2011, or like 2019.

The army is ancient compared to the others with some outliers, and it's all Old World models which is something they clearly want us to not use.

It very well could be a refresh with "fuck your Ogor army, rebuy the whole thing."

>>98252304
Just goes to show how well they're designed that they still hold up all these years later

>>98252304
The current ogre design is from 2006th release i think, but ogeres held up mostly because of the stylization, and it being okay for them to be ugly

>>98252430
If they just made them taller, I'd be plenty happy. Ogors are supposed to be like 10x10' lads. They're just scale-creeped, and could maybe use a little variety in the torsos since it's literally A or B.

>>98252483
The Glutton/Irongut/Leadbelcher torso is like 2002. The Frostlord kit is like 2011, and I think the Tyrant is the newest at 2019?

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ALRIGHT, so that giant stormcast lot I was gonna sell turns out some local guy running a game shop wanted to swap his cathay stuff to help folks get into sigmar easier with a giant blob of stormies.

SO, I got another big dragon and some other stuff to figure out what to do with.

>>98252495
I wish SCE didn't have a monopoly on dragons. They're so fuckin cool.

>>98252623
FEC and maybe soul blight can have the chance to get more, possibly whatever incarnation malerion brings with him as well. Although I'll be honest, compared to fantasy im glad dragons are, actually kinda rare. They're really only shared between 4-5 factions, depending on if you see something as a magmadroth or a cabbage as a dragon.

>>98252665
That's true. As much as I'd like an ally-able Dragon in the style of the Cogfort RoR, that could end up maybe being more of a detriment to the game. Perhaps one day I'll bite the bullet and build SCE. I just wish they played a little more "tanky dudes hitting hard" rather than being precise scalpel armies. Basically, more like StD and less like Sylvaneth.

I am about to build the Stormcast Eternals half of the Skaventide box. Wasn't a fan of the really wide look they had initially.

How much of the old line still exists? The Lord-Celestant on Stardrake looks kind of chunky.

>>98252752
>How much of the old line still exists? The Lord-Celestant on Stardrake looks kind of chunky.

A lot of the fatcast stuff kinda works functionally as it's newer counterparts, but as to survivors. Any of the huntercast, stardrake somehow lived, chonky dragon cav, andd.... I wanna say a few heroes but I think most everything that doesn't have an equivalent got squatted.

>>98252752
Alot more than you would think.

>>98252752
>Secondary that has to be catered to
Consider suicide instead.

>>98252752
They are all pratically interchangable, they are the same size, they just gut down all the interesting bits and gave them proportions of an elf castrated at birth

>>98251995
Some of the copiest shit i ever read

>>98251488
Retard KO already got a tome this edition

Is the spearhead magazine worth it? I want to get into Skaven. I figure I can pick up the first few issues then cancel.

>>98253078
>98253078
unless you can buy them at a severe discount, no its not fucking worth it.

Look around for someone selling Skaventide box set skaven halves. That will be your economically sound investment, and it nets you a spearheads worth fo units to try skaven with. Two skaventide box halves and you'll have a good core for a 2000 point army with 40 clanrats, 6 jezzails and 6 rat ogres.

>>98252304
>>98252489
Generally speaking the gutbuster side of the army is from 2005-ish, while the beastclaw side is from 2011
>>98252623
Amen to that. The new zombie dragon shows people love dragons. I expect the new tow chaos dragon will sell gangbusters too.
I'm surprised they never gave lumineth a dragon, or at least a dragon-like creature. They were a staple of high elves.
Actually what factions do have dragons? Stormcast, FEC, SBGL, IJ, and then a couple of not-quite-dragons-but-pretty-close in StD, fyreslayers, KB. Oh yeah and khorne had the forgeworld one.
>>98252752
The first initial 2015 launch wave is almost all refreshed or squatted, with only Vandus and the celestant prime left.
But the two other stormcast waves from 1st edition (extremis, basically dracoths and the stardrake) and vanguard (the scout looking guys) are still around. I expect 5th edition will refresh these guys, in the same way skaventide did for the initial 2015 wave.
2nd edition stormcast are all squatted with no survivors though. Brutal.

>>98253112
The reason why loomies don’t have dragons is because teclis didnt get a dragon girl gf like sigmar did. His incel self had to settle with the spirits that were in hysh. That being said as long as it’s an eastern style dragon I wouldn’t mind lumineth eventually getting a dragon. But idoneth need a leviathan yesterday with sea dragons.

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>>98252304
>rebuy the whole thing

Jokes on you, james wankshack. I'm future proofing my collection.

People crying about ogres haven't touched them. One body sprue shared across EVERY infantry unit. That was once the entire army in WHFB.
Fuck off you piss baby no model tourists.

>>98253183
Well yeah I’m not gonna touch them mournfangs are ugly as fuck.

>>98253165
You could extend the boots instead of having to sculpt elongated leg fabric and blending it together. Mongols have tall boots for riding?

>>98253165
King shit

>>98253197
I could, sure, but ogres are generally depicted as having baggy, stitched together pants and armored shoes rather than tall boots.

>>98253213
*tyrant

>>98253217
Look at the models again, mate. Those boots are going up to their knees almost
I just think it'd be easier but it's your work so fair enough

>>98252068
Based coomer anon

>>98252028
Right, wouldn't that go against the whole bo overlap idea?

>>98250708
>>98250695
>>98250266
>>98250103
I think judging by all the discussion reject-beastmen has sparked they would be a cool faction. I'd buy those minis
Maybe even draw in the disillusioned WHFB-fags with new attention on marginalized and unexplored species, fat chance though

>>98253183
Can you tone down the sperging enough to be clear on whether you're crying about ogres getting updated or ogres not getting updated?

We should have a bingo for the reveal stream friday.
Any ideas for slots?

>>98253432
Daughter of glob as free space
Honestly I don’t have much suggestions

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>>98253412
Just say you're ESL and need some help.
People are crying that they're being refreshed, because they think it's unnecessary, but Gutbusters consist of three infantry kits which all share a single sprue for the bodies.
Gluttons are this sprue X 3 with another
Ironguts are this sprue X 2 with another
Leadbelchers are this sprue X 2 with another
An Ogre refresh is overdue. They were awkward on release but WHFB didn't have a new army added before so people just accepted the shortcut because all of a sudden you had a full army.

>>98253545
>Just say you're ESL and need some help.
But I'm not, I just know for a fact that there are people who have praised the modularity of the ogre sprues for years, and that the crying over the ogre update is mostly in your head, so who the hell would know what you're sperging about.

>>98253258
That's because of the current, old plastic casts having legs that are far too short for their torsos and arms. Artwork old and new depicts their boots reaching just above the ankles. I'm also using total warhammer III models and concept art as references and inspiration for my helmet and extra piece additions, so they follow that style as well.

>>98253545
Its true that theres only two body poses for the basic infantry for ogres, but I have to say that default pose for the sake of kit modularity has been a massive boon for me reposing them.

You fellas think the chaos dragon will be usuable as a proxy for aos? Maybe as archaon?
Luv me dragons

>>98253744
Probably nothing for it unless you wanted to do corrupted stormcast. Or maybe a tahlia proxy if you wanted to do a corrupted free guild company.

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can't wait for friday's reveals
all but guaranteed that ogors are coming if you look at their availability on the webstore

>>98253744
using it as archaon will very much be it

>>98253744
Depends on its size. There's also a rumor its going to be a modernized version of Engrim van Horstmann, a chaos lord riding a two headed chaos dragon. So that could work well as archaon stand-in.

>>98253800
Please do not subject /aosg/ to this image again

>>98250095
AoS would be about five times more successful if not for all the stupid DEI bullshit they shove into it driving away the one and only customer base GW has to appeal to subhumans that don't buy models.

>>98253868
>DEI bullshit they shove into it driving away the one and only customer base GW has to appeal to subhumans that don't buy models.
The issue here is that it only started in 3rd, 2nd if you count women as DEI.
1st Stormcast release had literally no women, all the black kangz only started to appear in 3rd

>>98253868
Yeah I'm sure chuds would be all over aos if not for the women lol

>>98253828
Too late Anon, it already made history

>>98253948
The azyrite man's burden

Will we see Seraphon's BT this friday?

>>98254123
Maybe

>>98254123
Maybe. I kind of have a feeling they'll save them and sons of behemat for some monday articles though.

>>98250068
TQ
Either dark elves or non-gay dwarves

>>98253868
And also the realms are a stupid concept that makes the setting feel like a 90s platforms

>ok here's the realm of fire!
>nice, next level is the realm of life!

>>98254123
probably not

>>98253868
If "guy who shits his pants when he sees a black person" were actually a profitable demographic then they would be pandered to; that's how business works

>>98254230
see also: cathay

>>98254152
Oh i forgot SoB needed a tome. Probably better reveal for the big (heh) show than a pitty lizard hero

>>98254195
The realms were never defined like that. They're basically planets with a different extremity in each instance.
Aqshy has snow capped mountain ranges, verdant jungles, etc it's just that it does also feature a volcanic hellscape you won't find elsewhere just as Ghur is much the same but you won't find living mountains elsewhere

>>98254275
Doesn't matter how its defined, it matters how its viewed by people at large.

>uhm theyre planets actually
This is not better but just a different kind of retardation.

>>98254275
To be fair they basically were presented like that at launch and that's what people remember (and maybe mote importabtly that's what grogs told secondaries) so that's the impression people have.
Honestly I think that's what this whole the last world business is about, gw realised they fucked up the first impression and they want to have a second go at it.

Somebody whines about diversity in AoS at least once a thread and I genuinely have no idea what they’re talking about other than CoS having blacks?

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>>98254362
They put a black woman in charge

>>98254468
She's indian thoughbeit

>>98254469
Even worse, are the gonna start shitting all over the streets in Hammerhal Aqsha?

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>>98254468
ack! a woman in power. truly our culture is under attack

>>98254527
Morathis not really the best example of a woman in power and things going well

>>98254533
Depends on your perspective.
I know many anons who would be more than happy under morathi's reign.

Where scourge of aqshy scrolls

>>98254799
Keep scrolling

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>>98254326
Except you're full of shit. Read any launch material. Picrel was Ghyran

Got a casual RTT this weekend and looking forward to just fighting shit win or lose (probably lose)

Eer 2000/2000 pts

Blades of Khorne
The Goretide
General's Handbook 2025-26
Drops: 4
Prayer Lore - Blood Blesssings of Khorne
Manifestation Lore - Judgements of Khorne

General's Regiment
Realmgore Ritualist (120)
• General
Bloodreavers (80)
Bloodreavers (80)
Bloodreavers (80)

Regiment 1
Bloodsecrator (120)
Blood Warriors (360)
• Reinforced
Blood Warriors (360)
• Reinforced

Regiment 2
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (410)
• Magical Scorn

Regiment 3
Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury (390)
• Ar'gath, The King of Blades

Faction Terrain
Skull Altar

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Based on the new information provided by the 4th edition battletomes, what events or occurrences have taken place in this 4th edition?

>>98254921
rats rats
we're the rats

>>98254921
Until we get the sylvaneth and cities battletome scanned, I don’t care to write them out

>>98254921
>Casts and Cos try to contain a large scale ground invasion in Aqshy
>KO lost one of the main posts leaving 1000s rootless pirate ships behind
>others mostly handle rats well
>we get focus on Snarlfangs and their culture
>we get focus on Borrows and their culture
>we get focus on Chorfs and their culture
>Festus ascended to demon prince

>>98254913
Post ghb release and therefore not launch aos
But seriously no grog was out there reading the realmgate wars series anon, everything was decided when they brought out those mortuary factory tier maps. Like I said, first impressions.

>>98255047
>LAUNCH AOS IS ALL THAT COUNTS!
>Battletome: Fyreslayers was more important than the core book, campaign series, and literature that predates Battletome: Fyreslayers!
based retard

Why isn’t the mutalith vortex beast in tzeentch?

>>98255283
Same reason Slaughterbrute ain’t in Khorne.
GW is retarded. And they don’t want even cross-faction kit compatibility within the same game because of retarded sales metrics calculation.

>>98255174
I'm surprised you know that the infamous mortuary factory map comes from the fyreslayer battletome
Also the original lore primer doesn't mention shit about the realms beyond "this is aqshy, it's on fire. This is ghyran, life blooms there" etc. I can't fault grogs at the time for thinking that's all there is to em.

>>98255300
Well fuck now I have to hope that fucking thing gets a refresh as well as warriors. Tzeentch getting a monopoly of chaos spawn is fun and I hope they play it up more.

>>98255300
I genuinely can't come up with a good reason for why. Like a lot of their other seemingly bullshit actions you can at least see what they're trying to do behind the scenes but for the mvb/slaughterbrute I just don't get t.

>>98255374
That’s the thing. There is no good reason, but there is a reason. And the reason is fucking stupid. They can’t or won’t make a multi-faction box for it saying that either army can purchase the kit and if they did decide to add each to their respectively appropriate armies, they’d have to make a box for each with the same contents. So you’d have Blades of Khorne Slaughterbrute and Disciples of Tzeentch Mutalith Vortex Beast as different SKU’s despite being the same product.
My small gripe is that the MVB has never really been as cool as it could be with the portal on its back. It should be a sort of Chaos Bastilodon acting as an artillery beast launching globs of mutagenic fire across the board instead of or alongside the random table it has.

>>98255475
didn't they just release multi-faction terrain for sbgl and nighthaunt

>>98255518
You know what. They sure did. I feel like that’s a special case because the difference in assembly is literally how you turn the walls and not an entire different piece of sprue. What does the box for that look like?

>>98255551
looks like it just has the sbgl version on the cover

>>98255047
Speaking of those maps, the chaos wastes (in WHFB) also had exact same style map. What were GW smoking back then?

>>98254230
pretending to be retarded (ignoring the decades of special investments by firms devoted to pushing DEI principles in all media) stopped being a viable argument two years ago anon. But it is hilarious how shitlibs like you only have that as a defense now

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>>98255686
I've sperged about this before but gw is just terrible at making up realistic sounding fantasy names when they can't just rip off faux history. With fantasy they could mostly do just that, and just give all their places pseudo-historical names that fit the region. French for bretonnia, german for empire, pseudo-nahuatl for lustria, etc etc.
But for stuff like the chaos wastes you can't do that, since there's no historical precedent to rip off. That's why you end up with a lot of shitty sounding "the x of y" or the "[verb]ing [noun]" placenames that just sound so obviously made up. Same goes for AoS but even worse, since basically EVERYTHING is chaos-waste like in the sense that they don't allow themselves to just copy from real life.
Not limited to fantasy/aos either, 40k has this problem too. Just look at the armageddon map. The boiling sea, the tempest ocean, the deadlands, ... just uninspired.
Now the solution is simple; just steal from lesser known languages. Have this continent in ghur use Inuktitut, that one in aqshy use Tiwi, etc. It'll sound authentic, but not familiar enough to the average person so they'rs not able to detect that it's based on a real thing, which gw seems to want to avoid for AoS.

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>>98254549
You called?

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>>98250068
>TQ
Kurnothi.

>>98255836
I don't know why your ritualposts annoy the shit out of me when none of the others did. Maybe it's because it's a shitty collage instead of some artwork or something?

>>98255828
Yeah you seem like the type of guy who would *deeply* enjoy some of morathi's policies yea
Anyway I really wanna know what new ogres are going to look like man this reveal show can't come soon enough

>>98256063
>Anyway I really wanna know what new ogres are going to look like
Same. I’m kinda curious if they’ll be as modular as the old kits or like how helsmiths are. I’m very partial to the rumored wild man asthetic but I’d be lying if I said I’m not open to it.

>>98256063
GW must have sprung some sort of honey pot or a series of them because for us to be this nebulous on rumors is a bit out of the ordinary. I think we had one vague image of an ogor holding something that came around the time the grainy cogfort and CoS images came around. Otherwise we’ve been operating on descriptions.

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Out of curiosity, how much work would I have to do to get rid of the bodysuits the blood hags have? I feel like I might be able to get away with plastering over a lot of areas with green stuff, as opposed to scraping everything off and building it up from scratch.

As a side note - anyone know any good recipes for a vibrant blue?

>>98256211
Sounds challenging anon, but I wish you the best of luck because I think those models shouldn't have burkas

>>98256443
I think it comes down to the folds in the fabric. If you look at the models, areas like the ass seem pretty easy to scrape down and smooth out with minimal clean-up or reconstruction. It's areas like the arms, neck, or knees that might cause some problems, as folds and creases in the fabric fuck with the body's definition.

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>>98256211
Just sell that and go buy some Raging Heroes Lust Elves, save yourself a lot of headache and burnout

in another world AoS came out earlier and KO got a big fuckoff forgeworld airship that takes up half the board and then got discontinued in less than a year after the mould breaking

>>98255853
Mentall illness

>>98255853
no i feel the same way. took me like three or four threads to be like why the fuck does this kurnothi image keep getting posted

Tamiya tape wont degrade if its glued onto a model right? I have a couple of ideas with it but im curious on it durability.

>>98257964
Thin cement? It literally melts the plastic, theres nothing to degrade

>>98257413
KO and Idoneth were fucking robbed of attention past 10 years, only pity heroes, and this one KO unit thats just worse looking baloon boys

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>>98256063
Very deeply

>>98258059
Deepkin got a giant spell monster

>>98258113
And thats not what they need, they need an infantry unit thats not a bunch of half naked elven victims of failed magical abortion

>>98258125
To be fair, they needed a giant tentacly monster too.
Even though it being a spell is a bummer because it means they can't get a normal set of spells.

>>98258125
>they need *headcanon*

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>>98258168
Based retard
though if Idoneth get some elite infantry I hope they won't be as boring as this

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>>98258173
The middle guy's armor is cool AF, all the idoneths that wear prope heavy armor are really cool.
What they need is a unit of 5 soulrenders, and maybe give them an option for harpoons/net launchers

>>98258194
People seem to really like the soulrender but he's always been my least favourite idoneth model by a long shot. The underworlds variant isn't much better either.
*if* they do go the foot akhelian route I hope they're wearing something closer to what the eidolon has got going on.

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>>98257964

It should work just fine, but based on my experience, you should use super glue instead of plastic cement. The latter doesn't work with the masking tape.

>>98257964
Tamiya tape is thin washi paper. It will degrade quite fast.
There may be techniques from paper mache you can use, but that would detect from the properties you probably want. Modge podge and pva probably won't cut it.
I'm presuming you're looking for some fabric shorthand. Traditional cloth might be better, you can just soak lighter fabrics in something that will harden like glue or resin or plaster and shape it while it is drying. For something durable you can work thin sheets of copper into folds and such with simple tools like a pen, this can serve as a base for an epoxy or something that can be painted over easily

>>98257176
Surely there's a healthy middle ground to be found between coomershit and burqa elves

>>98258517
that's not coomershit

>>98258535
Sculpted nipples with rings and a stripper pose?

>>98258565
yeah? I thought you wanted bitch elves

>>98258535
Silence, functioning members of society are speaking.

>>98257176
I like the challenge of it. Do this sort of things helps me practice for larger, more substantial projects.

>>98258517
I don't even really consider what I'm doing coomer shit to begin with. Coomer shit would replacing all your CoS foot soliders or your SCE with busty bikini-clad women, or turning your ghouls in FEC into naked ripped gigchads with swinging horse cocks.
Honestly, it's depressing and a pretty damning indictment of how porn-addled people's thinking has become that a bare breast of two immediately makes their mind jump to accusations coomer shit. Gotta love how a context appropriate titty gets people's hackles up, but a context appropriate flayed face or dismembered limb doesn't so much as raise an eyebrow.

>>98258585
functioning members of society don't collect daughters of khaine

>>98258677
Why are you so insecure? Who hurt you?

>>98258675
Brother, those a stripper demons, its not just a warrior woman who happend to be naked

>>98258693
I'm not referring to the lust elves the one anon posted, I'm referring to the DoK - specifically the custom work I'm doing (if you scroll up you can see some of the early stages of work I've posted).
If I take a regular-ass witch elf model, scrape part of their metal bra off, and sculpt a bare titty, it really shouldn't be seen as "coomer shit" as it works within the context of the witch elf.

>>98258535
DoK are posed for combat, not sex positions. Rushing forward with balletic acrobatics isn't the same thing as a static allusion to sex.
It is coomer shit, masturbate before posting sissy. Genuinely neck yourself you filthy bastard

>>98258727
Ah, sorry then, friendly fire

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>it's not coomer shit, it's just a funny fat dragon haha

>>98258683
meant for >>98258517

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>>98258744
Need to print myself a greeviling as a chaos familiar

Apparently instead of getting new chaos warriors we're getting literally 1,000,000 monsters?

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does nintendo know about this?! surely gitmob alerted them

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>>98258738
it's an elf woman doing acrobatic combat almost in the nude, the sensual pose is not a betrayal of the theme, it's an extremisation of it.

It would be coomershit if she was some inflated mess of bolt-on-tits or made a point of shoving shit in her pussy or something.

if there's an issue with these models, other than not fitting the type of details other warhammer models have, is that they're mutant slaaneshi elves and not dark elves.

>>98258792
I'm just glad coomers give up the hobby after at most printing this shit
I'd be cringing to see this at my lgs nevermind the stench of the owner

>>98258727
Nobody was calling your stuff coomershit anon, it's the lust elves.

>>98258792
I would say that second from the left is coomershit, the rest look fine

>>98258792
This is coomershit, but more problematically it also just looks bad.

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>>98258809
>>98258821
if those are coomershit for having naked tits and sensual poses then so are diaz daemonettes, and I don't want to hear your wrong opinions then.

>>98258775
There's a boole rumour that talked about new chaos warriors etc for tow but then a bit later he also talked about a bunch of new monsters: chaos dragon, chimera, manticore, and chaos gargant.
The use of gargant specifically was noticeable as boole self admittedly is more of a whfb guy who doesn't know that much about aos, so the use of an aos-specific term here made it unclear whether these monsters were connected to the earlier tow warriors etc, or connected to AoS since we also have a rumour of more chaos shit coming in the future (5th edition/tlw)
I do think it was always way more likely for these monsters to be in reference to tow, and now with the confirmation of the chaos dragon for tow that seems to be even more solid.

People having prejudices over female models if we GW dont bother sculpting pasable faces anymore

>>98258874
heatstroke or normal stroke?

>>98258874
You might want to learn english before writing

>>98258830
You'd have a point if the daemonettes were poses like they're poledancing, but they're not, so

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>>98258887
So we agree I have a point, good.

>>98258830
I think the problem is that the lust elves read more as Slaaneshi cultists/daemons than witch elves or DoK more generally. What's more - and this is more a matter of personal taste -, but they strike me as overdesigned. I get what they're going for, but the designs and poses are too busy for what they are (i.e. a baseline infantry unit).
The classic Diaz Daemonettes are a good contrast to highlight the problem. The classic Daemonettes read as exotic and sensual without being overly busy - they're simple and tasteful, compared to the excessive (ironically) and gaudy lust elves.

Personally, I think this is a common problem with a lot of proxy models (and, to be fair, some modern GW models as well). They're designed with our much consideration to how they're printed, assembled, and painted, or what their relationship is with other models on the table.

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>>98258887
>coomshit is when leg up

>>98258906
I don't know why you're so adamant on pretending your coomshit isn't coomshit. Just play with your coomer minis.

>>98258920
>I don't know
That shows

My pity hero could beat up your pity hero.