>>98255924
Define "modern fantasy".

>>98255924
Honestly, I don't keep up with modern fantasy. I mostly just fool around on the /cyoag/ and read old stuff from the 70s-90s, with rare exceptions from good word of mouth.

>>98255924
Different combat paradigms.
Too much is wrapped up in this possibly-fictitious Ren faire fighting. Armoured bricks hammering each other with polearms while archers chip hitpoints off them and spellcasters set the terms of the battle. A dragon is killed in the same way as a knight: spam standard attack.
I long for other ways combat can be. Westerns where speed and guile are key, and line of sight both required and dreaded. Napoleonic skirmishes where elan and courage can carry the day, stand and fire against the incoming column. Fights in the air on dragonback, reading height for speed and estimating where your enemy will be when your flaming blasts catch up. Give me a fantasy Ready Or Not where grim-faced guardsmen try to stack up before a stout oak door, ready to breach and thunderstone and clear, the whole fight over in a single resolution phase of brutal violence.
I'm fucking tired of the gridbitching, slow, samey, ""epic"" combat that puts my dick to sleep.

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>>98255924
My weirdly specific fetishes

>>98255924
Soul is what is missing, everything is a product now instead of a project

>>98255924
Sincerity I guess

>>98255987

This, unironically. Without a timeframe there is nothing to say.

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>>98255924
To be fair, I don't waste my time with the woke romanasy and woke fanfics that DEI corpos have been pushing. If it's new it's often just some shitty paperback romance novel with fantasy elements thrown in to be different. That or some queer tumblr tourist fanfic of a series that they got to write in cause they were not a white guy and would push their agenda. Rarely are they real fans and push the classic. "I was always a fan but felt left out cause the main character wasn't a back queer trans" and all. Then when they get in race/sex/gay/wash everything so the only white guy left is the villain who get the Sat. Morning cartoon treatment. Remember they admit that most of the shit they make it their work but then use the names of a big IP to get the funding to make it.

However, love what I seen with some indie and anime/manga/lit.novel stories over the years. From Frieren, Log Horizon, Emmience in Shadow, Konosuba, etc. However, I got to say, everything past the 2000s outside of some indie have been slop or worse some bad fanfic made real. So unless it's anime or some based indie I don't even count it as fantasy, just woke slop that should be left to rot in the clearance rack. Along with the Disney Star Wars toys, and other woke shit we seen over the years.

>>98256080
Why do you format your posts like such a retard?

>>98255999
The problem with that is the people the book companies publish just want to push bad paperback romance, pointless queer shit, and some DEI/WOKE marxist shit into a fantasy setting. They don't care about combat or anything that isn't them pushing their woke shit on people and the setting.

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>>98256105

>>98255924
Mystery. All magic and all extraordinary abilities have become vending machine traits. When things become predictable, they lose their occult status. When there's a spell store on every corner and there's magic loot on every shelf in every store, the whole thing just breaks down and becomes mundane. A comparison: to a medieval person, electricity appears to be magic. To a modern person, it appears to be nothing special. The electricity did not change, only the supply and understanding of it.

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>>98256252
Found the bluesky fag. Why don't you go back to your dying app if you can't counter anything I said. We don't care if your little feelings were hurt queer

>>98256333
Why don't you talk about actual games, retard?

>>98255924
Creativity.

Honestly, even more than creativity. If you one-to-one copied granddaddy Tolkien, you'd probably write more interesting orcs and elves than much of fantasy fiction, just because you have this boring flanderization of them.

>>98256333
There's nothing to counter. You just declared a bunch of gibberish about how TEH EBUL publishers added WOKE to fantasy, rather than the reality which is that book buyers are like 80% women and women are all ultralibs so they get their preferences catered to, whereas you are a stupid racist who can barely read, so publishers don't try to chase you as an audience.

>>98256301
I agree, I hate how everything has to be explained without good reason. Now they are times where that works with magic systems like FMA, or JJK as they have a reason why they "reveal one's hand." However, most of the time. These new age explained everything systems will be bare bones and often change to fit the story over force to character do work with it. (The classic. Oh I have this so I don't need do any classiic magic anymore, and all.) Or just stop doing any prep/signing/chanting and just cast it with a word or without saying anything.

>>98255924
Good writing. Thats what I want to say, but thats not really the root issue here. No one is ready for the conversation about defining very clearly and concisely what sentience is based on what we know now. As well as what to do with all the people who won't pass the test and get lumped in with AI.

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>>98256354
Right, that's why we had these woke writers whine they can't sell shit and losing to 50-100 year old books. Or that new age Marvel and DC shitting out a bunch of comics and all of them together are getting beaten by Demon Slayer, One Piece, and other manga. But women are buying 80% of the books. That's laughable, that's like those women are gamers too and the one they counted were those who just play candy crush on their phone. (They're not the same as a gamer with a PC and a steam account with 100s of games. No matter how many times you whine they are.) Also, if fantasy was mostly women buying their books. Then why has fantasy novels sales been tanking hard. I mean the new slop is what the women wanted right. Cause that would meant that all that women are 80% is bullshit to push woke shit into classic IPs and add woke writers in while gatekeeping the striaght white males out like they whine that has been happening to them now.
>>98256353
This is about modern fantasy not just games dumbass. Though, a woke tourist like you can't read past a tweet or whatever the bluesky name for their posts are. That or just watch shorts and all. Go fuck off as it's clear you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

>>98256105
That's because that's what sells. I find it odious but it wasn't written to my tastes, so it feels meaningless to waste precious time caring about it.

>>98256453
Because everything they like is made by the same type of people they're seething over.

It's at a highly experimental stage. I'm not mad about Romantasy because I can literally insert my fetish into a story and plenty of female readers will see it, pick it up, and say "yes please". If anything is missing it's magic that isn't analyzed to death, or that isn't resistant to analysis by midwits. Everyone wants muh magic system but nobody wants to put in the work to make it smart.

>>98256423
Well, most of the writers these days aren't the cream of the crop and more of the rejects but they whine hard enough till they get a turn and many big publisher are known to basically have a "no white males allowed." I love the fact that these companies that were getting grants from Blackrock/USAid/etc to push for woke shit over the stuff that sold are now finding out the free money is gone and they now have to make it on their own or go under. They have to have fans that buy shit and no just post on soical media that they like how gay/back/etc the new comic/show/game is.

>>98256465
The problem is the people who the publishers let the "Romantasy" can't write shit. It's often all the same fucking story that changes the monster boyfriend and maybe a few fetishes to fit a theme.

I also agree that they don't want to make a magic system and often just make the bare bones copy and don't even keep with it add and taking things out mid story and how people don't notice and whine when they do. (I bet a few hope some fans think of something for them to copy and add in in fan fourms and all too.)

>>98256252
So much for the tolerant left!

>>98255924
naked slave girls in dungeons

>>98256560
Right, cause when someone copies by hand isn't the same fucking thing. Dude, I agree AI art is mostly crap, but have a reason for it other than some braindead reason that you're told to repeat like a fucking NPC man. Also this isn't even about AI but Modern Fantasy, stay on topic and don't try to change the subject cause you have nothing to counter them.

>>98256577
who hurt you? Did your daddy beat you?

Unashamed pandering to heterosexual men

>>98256582
Throwing shit on the wall to see if anything stick shows you got nothing. Just take the L and leave, cause you can't stay on topic to save your life.

Wow this thread sure got derailed to culture war bullshit.

>>98256595
Pretty much. Especially white heterosexual men. The only groups doing that now is Asia and look how Marvel Rivals, anime/manga/ and all those great games are making over Concord and their copies have been doing.

>>98256613
>are making over Concord
that's because of gooner bait, well okay I'm not even going to try to defend Concord it really was braindead and lacking in charisma

>>98256470
I don't think it would be any better without it. Even before all that the big publishers were extremely selective in what they picked up. They've always hated the heroes journey, they've always hated clearly defined morality and they've always hated joe everyman protags doing the best they can. If Tolkien was a couple decades late and had to slobber on publisher knobs they'd of snubbed him 100%. You could say they were always marxist, but really only based on the rorschach test that is the nebulous implications of checking the early life sections on wikipedia.

>>98255924
Creativity. People don't try to actually innovate anymore, if they try something new it's always "actually my Dwarves are just rat people." or "My Goblins are actually misunderstood creatures who are good guys in a bad situation."
I hate the latter, especially; it's okay to have monsters. Not everyone needs to be some oppressed misunderstood people with an "actually, our culture is just unique."
I think another issue is trying to go hard in the other direction and DEI slop. The amount of books at the store about some women fucking magical creatues and wizards while also being a strong transexul vampire werewolf witch is absurd.
Transexuals and gays make up so little of the population them being present at every corner is ridiculous. I live in the 5th-biggest city in the US, and I've seen maybe 100 of them in person my whole life among the millions of people I've seen.

>>98256000
>puckee slop

>>98256622
Maybe that's what people want and not woke slop and ugly bitches and fags. Just saying, maybe try not making accurate looking leftists as the heroes and hot looking characters who aren't acting like pieces of shit but are gay, black and or a women. Worked for Marvel Rivals, NIKKE, etc. Just saying a gamer and fantasy fan would know. Unlike a fucking tourist like you

>>98256354
>rather than the reality which is that book buyers are like 80% women
You must mean the book buyers who work in the industry, even though that would be an odd proportion when the publishing industry is about 57% women, because globally women are 55% of the market.

>>98256677
Genres are not inherently anything. They're bundles of themes and aesthetics and trends that can be and are pulled like taffy into any one of myriad forms. Sword of Truth was retarded Ayn Randian BDSM fetishism, but it's no less a work of fantasy than Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea.

>>98256653
Pretty much, that and the people who do innovate often get censored if they're in a publisher like Why can't you be like this big name that was different at the time. We see this in games, shows, movies, etc. Once corpos get a say, they go with copy this and add one different thing over making something new.

Also them DEI queers, and women fucking said fantasy creature of the day is killing it. I mean the woke fantasy is so bad you can put them side by side of each other and often no one can tell what it is.

>>98255924
Talent. Also skill, but mostly talent.

>>98256677
No they aren't. Say that all you want, but doesn't make that try dumbass.

>>98255924
Got to love when people say what missing the tourist complain it's "racist, sexist, etc" cause people don't like gay tumblr facfics and bad paperback romance novels with a fantasy creature lover.

>>98256661
Are you implying busty barmaids don't improve the quality of fantasy settings?

>>98256514
>The problem is the people who the publishers let the "Romantasy" can't write shit.
I'm going to ignore your writing error and pretend to know what you mean. That just means that there's room for people who can actually write in the genre and it's missing a king or queen who isn't a repressed housewife with sad eyes writing self-insert fanfic.

On the magic system thing that was mostly a shot at Sanderson and his worshipers.

>>98255924
Someone to discuss games with.
I design plenty of what I like on my own, but a lot of discussion circles claiming to be devoted to TTRPGs only talk about telling stories or begging their DM for stuff that isn't in the rules, if they aren't discussing outright off-topic things like literature and history.

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>>98255924
Cowbell.
We need more cowbell.

>>98256434
>an election tourist faggot who uses AI

As to be expected.

>>98255924
For me, especially in regards to Traditional Games (because that's what this board is for you muppet, if you want to talk about writing a book /lit/ is that way), it's variety. You see the same 4-5 races these days for example: Human, Elf, Dwarf, maybe a halfling/hobbit type race, maybe some sort of demonic and angelic origin, and maybe orcs if the writer of the system is feeling particularly bold. To say nothing of classes for systems that have them, it's always the same derivatives of the original four, nothing new or creative.

What modern fantasy TTRPGs need to do is divorce themselves from D&Disms, which are largely grounded in Tolkein's works. Where's the weird shit? Where's the variety, flavor and mechanics wise? Gimme something fresh, I'm tired of eating nothing but toast sandwiches.

>>98256724
It's not even that, it's that we need more people who are just as good at game design as they are at being creative. I know that's not a big group of people that I'm part of but c'mon.

>>98256465
>yes, I can use this cringe genre to make women get horny about the things I like
Smartest poster on this website.

>>98256999
I agree, but the corpos basically gatekeep the people who care about fantasy for tourist DEI woke. So good luck with that as you have nose ring women who just copy basic fantasy troupes just add queers and woke marxist themes in it which means badly cosplay queers in a fantasy coffee shop bitching about men/capitalism/etc. Plus rather keep the good fantasy underground then let the woke fags in. Look at what happen to LOTR, Witcher, etc. They change everything they could to "put a chick in it and make her really lame and often gay." Also for the queers whining that said girl character was always in said IP. Yeah, she a side character. However, when we haven't got the main story done. Why do we want some tourist's bad tumblr AU fanfic of their Mary Sue over the creator's original story

>>98256999
>(because that's what this board
Is not. This board was created by Moot with the intention to be a general hub for fantasy.
>/lit/
/lit/ is one of the most awful boards on the entire site, the entire catalog is off topic bullshit. You should familiarize yourself with the site before trying to command what is and what is not allowed here.

>>98256445
This. Unfortunate truth is that women read way more than men. This is something of a chicken and an egg problem, but you can't really expect a business with margins as thin as book publishing to go far afield from their core audience most of the time.

>>98255999
>Why yes, I only play TTRPGs that have battlemaps, how can you tell?

>>98256999
In his defense /lit/ is roughly ten times as retarded on average than /tg/. It is by far the worst board. Especially if you want to hear an actual opinion on something rather than enthusiastic projectile regurgitations of what I can only describe as an alien orthodoxy of things.

>>98257079
That's why allowing women to learn literacy was a mistake. We need to take that away along with all their other rights.

>>98255924
Adventure. Fantasy has no adventure anymore. There's no sense of wonder in anything, only the same sarcastic witticisms repeated by cynical cardboard cutout characters ad nauseum. What I want is stories like Indiana Jones, but with more swords and magic. That's not even hard to make, but writers have no sense of amazement with the world so they don't know how to write amazement.

>>98255924
Hiw did this topic impact your latest tabletop games session OP?

>>98256333
>>98256434
Keep the slop in your containment thread.

>>98255924
For me, it's less a matter of missing and more a matter of too much. I'll use Shadowrun for an example, the idea that a small handful of guys with no practical experience using magic, were able to topple the US government and resist the military. The point of fantasy is to not have to worry about realism, but when the point is to include modern elements then you still have to keep things plausible, in this case the mud hut full of chanting shamans gets hit with 50 cruise missiles.

>>98255999
Once you add fantasy elements to a setting, the arms race between offence and defense doesn't have to stay the way it is. Line of sight can't be presumed to be deadly when you can get an anti-bullet charm from the corner store. I remember a game I was in where some PvP happened, and the other guy was infuriated that when I designed my character's defenses, I made his shielding twice as strong from the back as the front, because he knew he was bigger and slower to react, and he wasn't retarded, so he handled it and forced enemies to fight him head on to have a chance.

>>98257687
How about you guys in YOUR containment boards and quit acting like you're one of us. Better yet go fuck off back to tumblr and bluesky and goon off to your porn and bad fanfics

>>98256252
No one likes faggots, faggot.

Nogames general.

>>98257696
Well, I also push that the stories that publishers are publishing are other woke knock off of classics that don't understand them and often shit on them thinking they're better for have queers in it and a woman as a main character. To just a clear bad romance with fantasy settings added in to be "different."

To be fair, I can't take settings like Shadowrun seriously with the magical shamans were able beat back the US military and the US military couldn't learn and weaponize said magic to take everything back. It's the classic toddler/child who basically has a bunch of random toys trying to make a story with all of them and it makes no sense and hides with the classic "it's fantasy" or "magic beats everything because it's magic." A small gag comic works but nothing serious. However, it's just a child's toybox but demands to be treated the same as a serious fantasy novel cause they both have magic and all.

>>98255924

Survival sex work.

>>98257703
Lmao dude
There is LITERALLY a containment board for fascists, it's called /pol/
Why don't you go there and see if anyone who shares your opinions has actual artistic talent?
>You won't
>They don't

>>98257743
>containment board for fascists
It's for all politics, even yours

>>98257743
Why aren't you in your containment board /lgbt/? I swear, you fags call anyone that doesn't agree with you fascist. You haven't said shit about Fantasy or /TG/. Just whining someone didn't agree with you and has to be a "ist and a phobe." So learn to debate or fuck off to bluesky.
>>98257637
The problem is you have corpos want to turn fantasy into cheap paperback romance and woke dramas. We seen this in most things that got big and had "new talent" that say they're lifelong "fans" but want to change everything about it and make it for a "modern audience." Look at Star Wars, Star Trek. Dr. Who, LOTR, 40K, Witcher. They start changing characters, pushing the main character back cause he is a white man for a female, or even add a new character to replace him. Then are shocked no one likes it and stop watching, reading, playing said series. They don't want adventure. They something they can make a cheap show or movie out of. They want three settings and very modern day friendly places and themes. You can't do that with Fantasy as well as they thought. Hints why they been trying to change it. They did the same to comics and killed Marvel and DC with it. Fantasy and sci-fi books are getting the same treatment. Hints why I only read indies and manga/lit/novels and watch anime over anything western made. (The last good Western made show was Corba-Kai and Archer.)

>>98256915
It's like filling out a bingo card.

>>98257056
I wouldn't call myself the smartest poster, it just seems like an obvious thing. Like, we all joke about "Dare You Enter My Magical Realm" and a mainstream subset of women are like "Yeah". Like... how is it not obvious?

>>98256999
weird, I can play any creature I can imagine in my game. have you tried playing different games?

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>>98257078
No, it was created to discuss games. I don't care what you think of /lit/. If you want to discuss writing, use the board for it. If your thread dies, too bad. Leave then.

>>98256000
>puckee aka redditor pucke℮21 spamming his commission again
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1kiihss/artcomm_sarah_pheltan_barmaidtavern_wench_by/
https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/image/sUNE9rziWzq0VmQQskuT0A/
>28 times since May 2025

>>98257886
I keep seeing shit talk on this puckee guy yet they've never said anything controversial enough to warrant this kind of attention. You ever think maybe you're the lolcow getting baited?

>>98257907
It's basically someone who commission a shit ton of art and posts them on here and ask a random question about fantasy. At one point you know it to show off his art, but at the same time. Better than corpo shills pushing their failed games like trench crusade, or woke fags from Bluesky pushing for female space marines. (At this point I want GW to do it and kill their game. We need a big scalp to show what happens when you go woke. The small one got bought up by big corps we need a big one like WOTC, GW, etc to fall to prove the point.)

>>98257873
I was not discussing with you. Moot created this place to discuss general fantasy. You don't like it? Just go back to your reddit threads and generals.

>>98257907
At this point the "anti-puckee" fags are just concern trollings. There's probably an anon making fun of them by posting irrelevant shit like that and making them seethe.

>>98257907
Puckee-21 is a mod protected spammer, try typing the full name on /tg/ without the dash and the post gets autoblocked, people have been banned for calling his spam

>>98257907
Inane threads with questions the OP doesn't care about are annoying, but >>98257969
>There's probably an anon making fun of them by posting irrelevant shit like that and making them seethe.
is probably true too. People seeing those threads getting negative reactions, then lurk the reddit account to post every new commission to further troll people

Anyways the internet sucks

>>98257776
Specifically right wing ones after /new/ was deleted, global rule 3 forbids racism but rapeape doesn't care and stopped people from enforcing it
Calling /lgbt/ a containment board is headcanon

>>98257873
Before moot left, people asked him to make /his/, to which he always had to responses
>It'll just be /pol/ but with dates
and
>Just use /tg/

I'm not saying he was right or wrong to view /tg/ like that, but he clearly did view it as just a grab bag for vague fantasy stuff

>>98256083
I don't get the Frieren sucking off
The animation is pretty, sometimes. Otherwise it's pretty standard anime fare

>>98255924
Racism
I'm not even baiting, a setting in which fundamentally different species of intelligent creatures coexist is completely unbelievable unless you factor in the fact that they would most likely fucking hate eachother on sight and would need actual reasons to cooperate

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>>98258277
She is Based AF and funny enough what the left want their Mary Sue OC to be seen as but since they can't write worth shit, they tend to make annoying fuckers that act like them and think if everyone in the story says they great, pretty, strong etc. People reading will just agree. Then are shocked when people just find them annoying and call the book trash.

>>98258277
>>98258277
It's a zoomer thing, they know all of the new stuff that comes out is putrid dogshit and they're desperate to have their own lord of the rings or ANYTHING that will actually be remembered in 5 years, and so far they haven't found squat
Or in the case of the mongoloid above me it's a nonwhite bot from Twitter

>>98258298
I agree. That and they basically having to make EVERY town, village, group as diverse as those liberal art college and woke commercials. A village in the mountains having 6 races, plus black and asian humans. Also. the "no white male in a position of power unless their evil." I mean you know in woke modern fantasy if a white guy is the mayor he is gay or evil. Or killed off in a "humorous matter" so a strong woman can take his place and do it better cause she a girl or something gay like that.

>>98255924
I just want to be pandered to.

>>98258306
But I don't think it's putrid dogshit either, it's perfectly watchable
It's just not that different from shonen #4263

>>98258298
Low IQ human way if thinking.

>>98255924
purpose, evolution, and something that actually sticks with you afterwards. Granted I think thats what fantasy in general is missing, both old and new, and its mainly an issue with western fantasy. I dont need something cheap like nostalgia, or something even more whored out like nostalgia. Give me an answer from your fantasy setting. Thats all I want.

>>98257962
No he didn't.

>>98258257
Moot's a retard and his opinions are irrelevant.

>>98255924

If it doesn't inspire me to be a better person, I don't want it.

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>>98257871
>Dragons
Unfortunately true. They're not the fantasy creature that's currently in vogue, despite being the most iconic. My current campaign has a plotline centered on black dragons who killed most of a blue dragon tribe, and the players have unknowingly allied with the sole blue dragon survivor.

>>98257814
I was using the term "fascist" for a racist who posted AI slop yearning for the days of slavery, you disingenuous dipshit.
If you want to use the "you call everything you don't like 'fascism'" canned response, make sure you're not defending actual fascists.
Idiot.

>le media is woke now because fake fans
>Star Wars
A series that was always about rebellion against fascism. The Empire was dressed like nazis; you don't even need media comprehension skills to get that one.
>Star Trek
Ah yes, famously non-woke Star Trek. Pic related, obviously.
>40K
A satire of jingoism centered on a clear parody of fascist Germany. Again, they're literally dressed like nazis.
>Witcher
The franchise about a man seen as nonhuman having out with a woman seen as nonhuman and a group of oppressed nonhumans.

The problem isn't that media is "woke." The problem is that you're wilfully ignorant to the fact that most nerd media is political, and you either lack critical analysis skills or just can't admit to yourself that your toy spacemen are made by liberals.

>>98258941
> Iwas using the term "fascist" for a racist who posted AI slop yearning for the days of slavery, you disingenuous dipshit.

Fascism isn't inherently racist nor pro-slavery. So the joke's on you I guess.

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>>98255924
In RPGs? Freshness. The old Tolkien-Moorcock hybrid derivative is fine, but so common that it doesn't rouse much in me. Everyone's got their favorite kitchen sink fantasy and that's fine, but it's gotten so bad that even custom settings struggle to significantly break from the mold. They might swap out which real world culture inspired which race, but that's about it.

Personally, I believe the best fantasy feels alien yet plausible. Elder Scrolls used to be good at this, not so much anymore. Morrowind has probably the gold standard of this alien yet plausible. Stuff like my attached pic does feel like the poorly understood mythology of a long dead civilization. The tribunal, Dagoth Ur's, The Numidium and Akulakhan, they're all far more out there than your "default" fantasy fare, but at the same time feels like legit mythology, even if it was made up in one weekend by a nerd doing dangerous amounts of drugs.

Now not everything needs to feel cosmic, or like a bronze age myth brought to life. I'm not against a perpetually locked in medieval europe kind of setting, but it needs a bit of zing, something novel, something to really warrant going full fantasy. Otherwise, I'd probably just play a game set in medieval europe with actual supernatural phenomenon.

>>98258941
>Unfortunately true. They're not the fantasy creature that's currently in vogue
Did you miss the entire 2010s and House of the Dragon and How to Train Your Dragon 1-3, etcetcetc.?

>>98258994
Draw Steel's default setting tried to break the mold and it just looks bad.

>>98257866
>haha I can homebrew shit, that means it's not a problem!
Retarded take. I can do the exact same thing, doesn't mean I don't want to see the genre as a whole stop being stuck in place.

>>98256252
You will never be a woman.

>>98258941
fascism is good

>>98259220
weird, I didn't say anything about homebrew. might want to read before replying.

>>98259188
And? Doing something different isn't an automatic guarantee of quality. That also doesn't mean going against the grain is doomed to fail. I don't see your point at all.

>>98258556
lurk moar newfaggot

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>>98258941
>racist who posted AI slop yearning for the days of slavery

>>98259443
/tg/ was created as a Warhammer containment board, it was just expanded on later. So, he's right.

>>98255924
Fantasy.

So much of it refuses to move past tolkien and D&D. There is very little sense of discovery or wonder.

>>98256653
>I think another issue is trying to go hard in the other direction and DEI slop.
I have no issue with this personally. I just wish it was more creative.

>>98258985
Nta, but Facism isn't inherently racist in the same way Libertarians aren't inherently pedophiles.

>>98259516
>muh warhammer
of course the newfaggot is a shithammer tourist

Far as games go, at this point extreme measures are required. Medieval High Fantasy is all codified or wildly autistic. Very low fantasy(or the magic has all but run out but it used to be pleantiful) type games will see a rise. I think what is needed is a good martials only type system that an individual can still layer their mysterious homebrew scarce magic of their system onto(or not, and keep it dramatically iron age/medieval). Its the only way to prevent wikis and srd s and troves from spoiling the mysteries of a setting. You w ill ne ver be a re al wo man. Conan is a good example but I think it does take more writing/drama/plot chops on a gamemaster's part to make that fun and keep it fun than Monty Haul and Magic Shops.

>>98259629
Concession accepted.

>>98255987
Fantasy stories or settings created after the release of the Lord of the Rings film trilogy.

>>98259067
Yeah and that shit ended in 2020 when skinwalkers and mimics and "they look like us, but arent us" type monsters took center of the cultural stage.

Thanks covid.

>>98259352
Oh you're playing genericslop like GURPS or HERO. Sorry, those don't count as games, those are toolkits.

>>98259956
Weird, House of the Dragon season 3 is out.

>>98259629
Warhammer Wednesdays, dipshit. You can hate all you want but it's true.

>>98258941
Witcher is about hunting monsters and banging chicks that can't get pregnant, the prejudice isn't really that important. Star Wars is about space wizards, and Star Trek is about a post-scarcity society. 40k may have started as satire but they added too much lore, they ended up justifying every scrap of prejudice and paranoia in the game.

>>98260208
Nope, still wrong. Crazy how you keep making stuff up and attributing it to me instead of trying to have a discussion or learn anything or not be a petulant child. Why is that?

>>98260769
Thank you for conclusively demonstrating your complete luck of media literacy.

>>98260990
I'm sorry the things you thought catered to your ideology, don't, but they don't.

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>>98261023
You really don't have to keep digging so enthusiastically

>>98261060
Don't waste your time on him. He's either trolling or genuinely illiterate.

>>98258558
>Moot's a retard
He was
>and his opinions are irrelevant.
Not to this conversation, which is about what /tg/ was made "for", not what it should be

>>98261788
they're irrelevant.