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You guys look like THIS???
>>98277500hell yea dude, we are nerds!
Is this a shitpost thread?
>>98277493>>How much do you think one's army reflects one's personality and values?Not at all, my main army is genestealer cults which are very commie coded but I'm a legit nazi IRL>grimdark painting styleI love it, whiners are just mad that it gets great effect for low effort and all the time they spent learning to paint the traditional way was wasted on making worse looking models
>>98277500one day..
>>98277493>two nazi editions in a rowdamn, is it nazi week or something?
>>98277500We're way fatter.
fuck ravenguard and salamanders fucking coward chapters. Dont ask me what chapter i paint
>>98277493im not posting because of the swaztikas>no excuses they're being used in one way onlyim filtered, bye
>>98277529what chapter do you paint anon?
>>98277530This fag announcing he's leaving like we care, holy shit if the silly pinwheels are filtering people we should have done it years ago, thanks OP
>>98277530uhm its the KREIGERS edition anon duh
>>98277535you found out about 40k in 2022
>>98277522ITS WHITE BOI SUMMER
>>98277518Is the "grimdark unrecognizable from tabletop viewing" a cope meme and it is really just fine? I'll be honest I'm looking for an equilibrium between the grimdark style and the style of brighter basecoats with some diluted black or brown acrylic wash over it. Mostly because I just want to stick with acrylics.>>98277522It's Sunday. And I couldn't be bothered to fix the OP stuff so I decided to be cheeky.If you want this to be a thing then it wouldn't hurt. The Imperium is a dystopia and cruelest regime so historical bigotries and modern ones are valid alongside fictional in universe ones and belong to ensure the grimdark is there in an "old habits die hard" kind of way.
>>982775401996 actually, first box was 2nd edition plastic termagants, they were only $5 back then before all the price hikes and inflation. That whole army was stolen years later when I left it at a friends house and he got taken by CPS because his mom was a nutjob.
>>98277534i dont wanna talk about it man
>>98277545>Is the "grimdark unrecognizable from tabletop viewing" a cope meme and it is really just fine?Depends on the exact execution. Not all grimdark style paintjobs are created equal.
>>98277548>I-I totally started in 2ndit's always the same story with you larpers
>>98277548>$5 back then for some plastic 40k termagants>first google result says now that's 10.61 dollars todayI regret being born in 1999. >t. zuumur
>>98277545>The Imperium is a dystopia and cruelest regime so historical bigotries and modern ones are valid alongside fictional in universe ones and belong to ensure the grimdark is there in an "old habits die hard" kind of way.Jesus, dude, just admit you like larping as a nazi.
>>98277557No anon it is legitimately just me every single time. I am one of the only 2 or 3 oldfags who frequents these threads and I have been telling the truth every fucking time. I've been playing 40k since 2nd edition and I've been frequently on /40kg/ since around 2012 or so. And I've blown you the absolute fuck out on every grog argument posting screenshots from old books multiple times and you seethe and cope and cry "LARP" every time but I legitimately just fucking mog you in terms of hobby knowledge and always have.
>>98277556>Not all grimdark style paintjobs are created equal.I understand that some grimdark style paintjobs are more equal than others.Which one is the most equal grimdark style for you?Does there exist a grimdark paintjob style that meets the middle ground between being recognized from tabletop viewing distances like grimdark haters say it doesn't while still having that grimdark style look?
>>98277493>Krieg fans: Noooo we're not heckin' nazis they're FRENCH THEY'RE FRENCH>Also Krieg fans:
>>98277570the larp never stops
>>98277561>Jesus, dude, just admit you like larping as a nazi.Since I was a kid I always loved the idea of playing the bad guys so my friends can be the heroes they want to be. So if context permits and it won't harm me then yeah I would like the be "larping as a nazi." It's why I have some WGA Damned chaos guard on the way. So I can play as the most evil (I think) 40k faction so friends can be the Imperium heroes they want to be.There's nothing wrong with it.
>>98277588The jury may be out on who's the least evil faction of 40k, but I think the most evil faction is pretty settled
>>98277548>>98277570The price mention gave me some belief that you're a 40k grog. What's the biggest modern misinterpretation or false info about grog era 40k stuff that you hate the most? Can you attach book and page number citation to dispel the myth in case I remember and stumble on the argument and want to win an internet argument of the warhammer 40k kind to boost my ego?
>>98277599>The price mention gave me some belief that you're a 40k grog.anybody can google what a kit cost in x year40k is one of the most documented nerd hobbies out there
>>98275404Here is my June collage submission
>>98277578you forgot to attach the gigachad image.
>>98277607You have to be over 18 to use this site.
>>98277581Whatever helps you cope, nigger. I've been here since long before you and will be here after you are long gone. I've made multiple posts that were screenshotted by other anons and are still occasionally posted to this day, I've had my models in White Dwarf, I've posted some of the leaks that were real, I've watched other thread regulars come and go, I was here for the 60 multimeltas meltdown and the knees vs vents meltdown and the dark angels aren't gay meltdown and the original carnac dubbing. Also met Genestealer Cult Breeder IRL and fucked her brains out, yeah she was actuslly a real girl and not a troon.
>>98277597Guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.I want to make my future WGA Damned army's lore that they believe in the chaos gods and are enlightening/liberating the citizens of the Imperium.Haven't picked a chaos god yet or decided if I want them to be undivided. As for most evil, I think it is a coin toss between "good intentioned" worshippers of chaos or evils factions that relish in being evil like the Night Lords. I think the Dark Eldar kind of do their thing more so for survival in staving off Slaanesh getting to vore their souls. A lot of evil leaders were insane and their insanity made them believe they're actions would lead to a noble goal. At least the Devil (I think) is sincere in his evil intentions.Like Night Lords.
>>98277614trying too hard
>>98277599>What's the biggest modern misinterpretation or false info about grog era 40k stuff that you hate the mostGoblin green bases and green flock of 2nd edition being SOVL. Artists and creators hated it but it was mandated by corpo suits because it photographed better. Andy Chambers and/or Jervis Johnson and/or Gav Thorpe have all commented on this even in recent videos, check the usual youtube interviewer guys like Filmdeg and Jordan Sorcery.
>>98277602>40k is one of the most documented nerd hobbies out thereUp there with Star Wars? I'm not too sure really as there are loads of internet arguments about grog info and myths about it still being spread around.The little sisters of purification homebrew page is still held up as canon stuff to this day. If 40k had star wars levels of documentation then there wouldn't be so much false information about the oldhammer era.
>>98277597Drukhari are the same kind of evil as Tyranids, they do what they must to survive. Chaos is the only faction that does horrible shit solely for the sake of being horrible (except for the Imperium, who also does horrible shit for the sake of being horrible lmao)
>>98277621I know you won't believe me but it's 100% all true, that's the most amusing part.
>>98277633I hope you're genuinely the kind of pathological liar who genuinely believes his own bullshit, that would be a little less pathetic than this larp
>TQ: How much do you think one's army reflects one's personality and values?I don't think it does at all. Ive been playing since 4th and most players I know play multiple armies at this point, maybe 20 years ago when they bought their first armies it said something about them but as it stands now I just don't see it.
>>98277628>Up there with Star Wars?closeyou can find release dates and pricing for almost every single model ever released, and recordings or transcripts of nearly every interview with every old GW employee out there
First Claw. I haven't made Talos yet.
>>98277639No I'm genuinely just having fun posting the absolute truth and watching you react with such skepticism it's honestly much funnier this way.
>>98277628Star wars is consuming media and not a hobby though.
>>98277626What other hobby folklore of the oldhammer era is passed about as lies? I couldn't find the video of it but I'll believe you there. I know that Krieg helmets were supposed to be pickelhaubes because the audiobook of the Krieg novel by Steve Lyons had a part where launches squiggs got impaled on the helmet. So it is pretty easy to believe they were meant to have the pickelhaube spike. But I guess someone up at GW changed that.
>>98277493What a stupid TQ. I'm here to play with plastic toy soldiers not for a morality class, i like big red spikey chad that worship violence and fight toe to toe with other good aligned superhumans giant bugs or mad green psychos just with one axe as companion because is cool not because i will worship a daemonic god and let flood my suppressed rage beheading citizens on the streets.Is a game, and people who don't understand that are a problem.
>>98277650ntayour play pretend session isn't believable in the slightestfeel free to turn schizo and insist I'm a samefag
>>98277646Best and most trustworthy archival source for this kind of info? I know of stuff of legends for oldhammer stuff but it's been a while since I've been there.And Miniset isn't really focused solely on 40k so some misinfo might slip through.>>98277652Fair enough. I was just naming it off the top of my head. >>98277648Very nice work anon!Are you trying to go for a kind of basing similar to the terrain of the moon if the surface of it counts as terrain? That was my first thought. And I think it contrasts well with the NL paintjob.
someone still enjoys star wars? damn...
>>98277652Wrong, there are several tabletops for it and also the cosplay hobbying and more recently the autists who've documented and turned the saber fighting forms into an actual fencing alternative
>>98277659>What other hobby folklore of the oldhammer era is passed about as lies?I'm trying to think of some, usually its lore that got distorted more than hobby stuff.Maybe the size of Titans, originally they were like 40-50 meters tall but some of the later art to come out in the 90s like the famous Lucius Pattern Warlord make them look literally miles tall and that was never originally the case.
>>98277667Why is it so hard for you to believe someone in their 60s posts on the site? Ive been playing since the start of 4th and nobody accuses me of larping.
>>98277669star wars is easy to enjoy when you don't listen to disney in your ear telling you what is and isn't canon
>>98277667I don't actually care man, because *I* know it's true so again it makes it way funnier for me.
>>98277570How old is the average person roaming this place? 20s? 30s?
>>98277679Im 39.
>>98277675>60sNot quite that old, I started very young in 2nd, was just a kid.
>>98277679These days I have no idea, we obviously got a lot of new blood in 8th and again in 10th so I'd guess mid-20s for most of them but there's clearly a few other oldfags like me at least once in awhile
>>98277679I know for a fact 40-50 years old boomer faggots can be found here.
three more Exodites kits left...
>>98277685We also have honest to god GW employees here sometimes. I'm not one of them but I can promise you from certain leaks that happened and certain discussions we got a direct insider.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98277571>Does there exist a grimdark paintjob style that meets the middle ground between being recognized from tabletop viewing distances like grimdark haters say it doesn't while still having that grimdark style look?Yeah, you can find some in Blanchitsu articles in White Dwarf over the years.
>>98277629>they do what they must to surviveExodites and Craftworlders are proof that this is not the case. The Deldar continue to be BDSM murder freaks because they want to, because they find it pleasurable, and because they believe that's what being a "true Eldar" is about. If you offer an individual Deldar the opportunity to go live like a peasant on a maiden world and never needing to feed off suffering again, they'd probably just laugh and kill you.
>>98277687so stupidi will never take pictures if i have a game against exodites it will just look embarassing like i am playing against an 8 year old
>>98277669Star Wars in the 2000's was peak. I still have fond memories of playing battlefront 2 on the ps2 at my friend's house. Just thinking about it makes me want to pick up picrel for the nostalgia.I refuse to watch any of the sequels though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4
>>98277700dinosaurs are Warhammer, anon
>>98277702I didnt really like any of the movies, but I did like the clone wars and Kotor.
>>9827768540-50 is Gen X not Boomer
>>98277699on average, yes, but there are Deldar who become craftworlders, ynnari, or (presumably) exodites.
How hyped are we for this?
>>98277702Peak and Shits Wars can't be used on the same phrase, the three first movies are the only ok thing about the whole franchise.
>>98277700Yes much sillier than the armies of cartoonish daemons with their silly sassy nurglings and primaris gokarts and nerf gun missile guys.
>>98277669I enjoy a lot of the EU stuff. Some stuff I like from Disney like the mudtrooper designs. I can't really think of much. I'm not gonna act like EU had no stinkers. I don't know of any particular examples, but I know they exist.>>98277679I remember using this site at 19.I'm 27 now. >>98277664>Is a game, and people who don't understand that are a problem.I was being cheeky when I made this thread. The reality is that people in real life at the LGS are very chill and civil and polite. Spergs are actually more rare than social media makes them seem to be. It kind of inspires me to be better and prepare myself better and not to be the combo breaker who ends up being a sperg.But then again I haven't been to the LGS on tournament days. >>98277685What frustrates me is that there is a lot of old man hate. Personally I'm all for old man wisdom. Especially when older ones tell me of their failures so I hopefully don't repeat their mistakes. >>98277698>Blanchitsu in White Dwarf>Over the yearsHow far back do I have to go for those? Any particular White Dwarf mags you remember with the tutorials?I do ponder whether a work can be blanchitsu without the zorn palette Blanche always used.
>>98277710extremely. I've wanted Exodites for ages, and even Beast Snaggas are on my "shit, maybe" list. So I get dinos for my Eldar and the start of my next project in one box.Depending on the price, I might buy three.
>>98277705Imagine banging a harem of skinks on that howdah. >>98277710I'll pick up exodites when they're in a combat patrol or combat force or something for the full exodite release. I dont care for them now. granted ill be in my 30s when that shit happens.
>>98277705this looks alright it's dino tech it all adds upthose exodite models looks like someone slapped a turret on top of a museum souvenirthey actual one they made for the dragon knight looks a little better and more alien so hopefully the bigger ones will>>98277713it actually is.
>>98277710The overall box idk, I don't really want the snaggerz. I like the squighogs but not the ones on foot. GW could have at least given the orks an upgrade sprue or maybe put some terrain in the box or something.If Exodites get another unit though I'll start collecting some.
>>98277710'ate squiggers, but I'll tolerate them if it means exodites
>>98277711I enjoyed Mandalorian though?
>>98277700Considering how much of the Primaris line looks like fisher price toys, I sure hope you aren't a marinefag. Because, if you are, pot meet kettle.
>>98277715>How far back do I have to go for those? Any particular White Dwarf mags you remember with the tutorials?They're scattered all over, you might be better off looking up a list of blanchitsu articles on lexicanum or something and then hunting down the magazine scans. I probably have them somewhere but I cant dig anything out right now, I'm phoneposting.
>>98277723wait you mean the 30 year old Epic models? You felt the need to point out they look a bit silly?Yeah man, Epic models looked a bit silly
>>98277687I need the exodite stegadon like I need air to fucking breathe man. The fantasy liggers never appealed to me like the exodites do for some reason. I don't even usually like elves but exodites are cool as shit
>>98277710i will never not find these ridiculous. on pair with nasapunk destiny dwarfs.
>>98277734i have no idea what you are talking about nowwhen did i bring these up?
>>98277731I agree that primaris looks like tonka toys but they were not the first, the centurion (ranged or melee varients) also look like shit. The weapons in their chest that don't have enough depth to realistically depicted a workigmng machine are just atrocious.
>>98277711>t. never watched 2003 clone warshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p_ugTFfpO4
>>98277687I hope they do something different than laser lances for the pteradon because it would feel kind of redundant if the whole army was doing the same thing from the backs of different dinos.
>>98277741>AnimationYawn
now THIS is warhammer
I like orks :D>>98277493>Thread Question: How much do you think one's army reflects one's personality and values?eh, maybe if they have a specific reason they like the army, but I think its too little information to go off of. one reason I like orks so much is their really flashy fashion sense, and I do often dress in very bright colors with weird patterns irl.
>>98277741The cartoon was bad, the cgi starting in season was was kino.
>>98277744He deserves to become a god
>>98277710I want to own three sets of Exodites, but I will wait for the individual release.
>>98277710Good models but just a KT is a major disappointment
When are Necrons getting Pariahs back while GW is on this nostalgia kick resurrecting old dead units like Exodites, is what I wanna know
>>98277743>live action slop enjoyerYUCK!
>>98277747idk if it is my monitor or the art but the blue in this is BLUE it's fucking with my eyes
>>98277699>Dark Eldar don't actually need to do 120 Days of Sodom stuff to surviveI like them more now because there is no gray morality being done over this then.Seriously I don't like sympathetic villains or villains with tragic backgrounds that makes them sympathetic.Just give me objective evil so I can play the bad guy factions so my buddies can play as the hero factions. >true eldarAs in Eldar before Slaanesh's birth? I like to imagine the Dark Eldar are "toned down" a bit from what their pre-fall ancestors were like because they lost a lot of worlds therefore lost a lot of means to do what they really want to do.>>98277729NTA butI enjoyed it too.I did particularly love the concept art of the remnant Stormtroopers. Probably one of the best things (in my opinion I hold as fact) out of Disney canon if they aren't based off EU stuff.I want to replicate that for Imperial Guard and Chaos guard. The WGA Damned somewhat have that because their armor is mostly scraps. The real difficulty is the Imperial Guard as Anvil bits are not gonna be enough and then there is VictoriaMiniatures going for the new proportions. I'm pretty sure the plastic Krieg are more closer to the old heroic scale proportions than the new Cadians are. I don't know how to break through scale autism.Has the 40k community come up with a term to differentiate the new Cadian heroic scale versus the metal Cadian era scale? Something like "classic scale?" I don't know. >>98277733Fair enough. >PhonepostingI understand. Phones can be a hassle sometimes. But then again I haven't moved from my iphone 6s because I don't know what phone to get. I am planning on using swisstransfer to evacuate my files and STLs off my phone as I hate iCloud. I would like a new phone that takes good quality pictures so I can take pics of actually decent resin aftermarket stuff into an AI to archive them as STLs and hopefully fix the moudlines and resin bubbles in Blender.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98277702I bought that box and it's pretty good>>98277734Oh hey I own that mini
>>98277755Corsairs started as a kill team too, and got more stuff later. Be patient. People have been saying for awhile that GW is unironically running out of stuff to redo and release so they're bound to do more Exodites as well as stuff like Dark Mech
>>98277757If Henry Cavil's Warhammer 40k project isn't changed into high fidelity animation then I will not like it. I love animation from stop motion to 3D to 2d. And hentai. Warhammer 40k is just too over the top to be anything but a graphical 3D animation series. I don't know how Star Wars pulled it off. 3D animation allows for a lot of weird things to just be rolled with because the animation lets something in the monkey brain to know that non of this is real just enjoy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moDRNC2xTao
Do you guys think GW planning a Scouring expansion for HH with mark 7 marines and new plastic castaferrum is a real thing or just wishlisting? They started a scouring book series already right?
I think I'd like legion imperialis a lot if it was any era but 30k
>>98277699>Exodites and Craftworlders are proof that this is not the case.Not really, exodites are constantly at risk of attack and Craftworlders have to send specialized troops to collect spirit stones. The dark eldar way is the most feasible way to survive in the circumstances they find themselves in
>>98277759>I like to imagine the Dark Eldar are "toned down" a bit from what their pre-fall ancestorsI think it's the opposite. In terms of grandeur, you're probably right, but their tastes have likely only grown more depraved in the 10,000 or so years they've been squatting in the webway.
>>98277773It will be a while before that. The Nostalgia baiting for classic Mk7 already has begun with GW making jury rigged power armor canon. I wonder if the Space Wolves grey hunters and Blood Claws were a test round and I wonder if anybody noticed their potential of being jury rigged marines. I mentioned a bit of this speculation with "nihilus pattern" space marine armor being there because supply line issues.So I probably wasted a wish for the future or it was a coincidence.>>98277780They probably kept it in HH mostly to keep things simple in the marine versus marine with guard sprinkled in.>howeverI believe GW is scared of 6mm scale overtaking Warhammer 40k in sales and popularity so they kept it in Horus Heresy to keep things "safe" for the mainline game. I can't prove it.
>>98277493Why did GW not put all the options for the Characters and such in the Armageddon box? Why do i have to buy a new Warboss to get a Powerklaw on him? I fucking hate this company i swear to god.Guess this warboss is going to sit on my shelf forever
>>98277780James could have made a fucking killing with an actual Epic 40k reboot. They fucked us.If the rumours of "Battlefleet Gothic but Horus Heresy" are true I might commit a fucking crime.
>>98277771Star wars pulled it off because of great practical effects and set design. Now it's all cgi hastily slopped out to meet deadlines.Also, a lot of sci fi at the time was focused on making things feel "real", and lived in. Like things are futuristic for sure, but they're also rusty and dusty and kind of shitty, rather than everything looking factory fresh. A good example is the ship from Alien. Side note, I would kill for some of the models they used. Would love to use it as terrain...
>>98277790Anon GW isn't going to come kick down your door if you just... chop off his arm and give him one with a powerklaw
>>98277787Maybe you're more right than me. Losing the empire probably made a lot of Dark Eldar survivors more vicious as they vented their frustrations on the helpless and themselves. Grandeur lost most likely as they lost many worlds. I like to imagine their palaces were genuinely beautiful to look at then the pre-fall eldar mostly splattered the interiors with gore and other sexual fluids in their acts of depravity. Thus giving the palace exteriors a scarier appearance because you know what's going down behind closed doors.
>>98277798This still forces me to buy a new Warboss, so i mightaswell just make a new one.
>>98277773It will be a specialty game that replaces Ligma
>>98277710Not in the slightest. Theres like 10 kits i'd rather see in Killteam first.Alpha Legion legionaries, blood angels termies, catachan vets, melee CSM termies, 2nd harlequin infantry, DE infantry, 2nd deathwatch infantry kit, arameddon ork hunters, ork 'ard boyz.
>>98277793>Also, a lot of sci fi at the time was focused on making things feel "real", and lived in.That might be what made Star Wars pulled off. Along with your practical set design and effects mentions.I think that skill has been lost but I hope somehow the knowledge to make these sorts of things still lives even if 3D printing has rendered a lot obsolete. I think the "what a piece of junk" line Luke said when seeing the Millennium Falcon was great worldbuilding somehow. The audience may look at it like a technological marvel, but the "reality" in Star Wars is that it is a piece of junk.>ship from AlienThat's good too. I do love H.R. Giger's style and art pieces too.
>>98277738Ok, what models did you mean when you said they "look embarrassing like I am playing against an 8 year old"?I thought you meant the new Exodite models, but then you said "they actual one they made for the dragon knight looks a little better" so I assumed you meant the old Epic Exodite models looked embarrassing. But now you're saying that's not what you were talking about, so what the fuck were you talking about?
>>98277798NTA but GW would want to if you put a single third party resin bit in your third party army.
>>98277814>4 fucking space marine kits
>>98277710Should have just sold them separately. Theyd be sold out day 1.
>>98277755for over a year the rumor has been a Kill Team first, then a larger expansion like Corsairs and Kroot got
>>98277823I could have named 12 marine/csm kits and theyd all sell better than your retarded xenos killteams
>>98277793>Star wars pulled it off because of great practical effects and set designAre we going to try and pretend like the prequels weren't full of sloppy CGI? Go rewatch the entire droid factory sequence from Clones again.
>>98277814Armageddon Ork Hunters and Catachans could be one kit with extra options or an upgrade sprue.
>>98277832This isn't actually true. Marine sales arent nearly as over represented as you think. Marines make up a plurality of players, not even a majority. They are like 40% of the playerbase, and that's by combining like fucking 10 different subfactions together meaning each of them makes up like 4% of 40k players.
>>98277798>>98277807Also i would like to add that the power klaw goes ON THE OTHER ARM
>>98277840Uh anon but HH is peak warhammer and everything that isn't a flavor of space marine is a waste of space and should be removed
>>98277710They're too similar to CWE
>>98277842NTA but 2 HH editions back i wouldve agreed with you now this cant be anything other than bait,
>>98277832In fact fuck itBlood angel termies, blood angel death company, power armoured TS unit, world eater termies, death guard ranged termies ( i dunno what the HH units called), EC termies, EC cultists or EC Slaangors, Deathwatch boarding party ( shield and melee, shield and shotgun etc), grey knights termies, grey knights ppwer armoured squad, white scars bikers, CSM bikers, alpha legion squad ( not an upgrade but a new kit),word bearers upgrade sprue for legionaries etc etc etc
>>98277832>wanting kill teams because they make money for GWwhat level of paypiggery is this?
my main army is votann. what second army should i start if i want to mix things up
>>98277687Wonder if the Megadon will be like that or being more visually scaled with hyper colours on its face like the dragon kit is.Also I don't think we will get pteradon since GW seems to be removing fliers
>>98277834The parts everyone agrees were shit?
>>98277840I think the data is even harder to characterize than that because you get a situation where 40% of the playerbase are "marine players" but some 60% probably have some kind of marines in their collection.
>>98277848That's a real, serious belief currently held by multiple people on this board
>>9827553413, same as the Great Horned Rat.>both share the domain of Ruin>both have a council of 12 with the 13th seat for their god>13th track of the Land Raider is dedicated to the Emperor>13th Black Crusade is the final one>Ultramarines are the 13th Legion (Julius Caesar reference) and the 13th Primarch is the first to return and takes charge>13th Founding was the Dark Founding>13th Great Company lost in the Warp
>>98277888
Maiden Worlds should have more alien lifeforms
>>98277871True but most of that is because marines are in EVERY starter set and half the other vs boxes so people aren't necessarily buying them by choice.In the end with the rough numbers we have I think its realistic to say that, on average, a given marine kit will sell about twice as much as a given xenos kit. That's not all xenos, mind you, but a single xenos faction. So Blood Angels probably sell around twice as much as Orks, or, Space Wolves around twice as much as Tau, etc. That's not nothing, but it's not nearly as over exaggerated as some people pretend who will claim things like Marines sell 10x as much as all xenos combined.Also from these rough numbers, other Imperial factions sell roughly the same as Marines when you break it down into sub factions again. So a given Imperial Guard kit might sell literally as much as a given Dark Angels kit.
>>98277864>Also I don't think we will get pteradon since GW seems to be removing fliersDidn't they just make a new landspeeder
>>98277871I mean all the starter sets are with marines. One of them was marine vs marine.Want to buy a new guy for xenos? Whoops its trapped with some marines. Want some Blackstone characters? Random marine there too! Oh look your main army character. Yep it has marines in it too!
>>98277895Also marines have the issue that even models for other marines can be used by other marines.Worst case scenario it need some cutting and extra bits. Most of the time a paintjob is enough.Meanwhile unless you are playing GSC or Orks the amount of shit from other armies that overlap with a random non marine army are miniscule.
There are now multiple Chinese armies in gws wings and white scars still do not have a single worthy update.
Grey Knights are literally the only chapter of space marine that should exist. Heavily armored space wizard knights >>>>>> whatever gay shit you're into
>>98277911Sir those are Mongolians
>>98277911He’s polish
Basically done with the first armageddon set. Need to do some GS and gapfill on everyone yet, and basing of course.I thought the Banner Nob was going to be my favorite in the set, and I do like him a lot, but the Warboss really wowed me while assembling and doing a bit of custom work, and even more surprising I actually quite like how the Weirdboy comes together, though it doesn't change that duplicates will be painfully obvious.
Went and kitbashed my second Dakkarig a bit, changed the pilot up a bit and rearranged some bits here and there just to differentiate it.
>>98277552You're the tranny painter, aren't you? You insufferable, mentally-handicapped degenerate
>>98277834Did someone say bluescreen?
>>98277848I had someone argue with me about 2e by using examples from 3e.All of the grogs playing HH left in like mid 2e they're playing like nothing or other games.
>>98277710excited to see the 40k datasheets because I want these guys with my harlequin troupe
>>98277911The ccp is trying to genocide the mongols.But unlike the tibbet the mongols might fight back and that scares the shit out of the CCP.So they try to erase them from everything like they have done before.In other words making mongols shit would anger the chines market and that is a big no for GW.
>>98277710I wish it came with literally anything besides Beast Snaggas. Hell just started an Ork army with Armageddon and I don't even want to touch Beast Snaggas.
>>98277911We don't know if WS shit is coming, there could be a more mongol cultural upgrade kit in the works>>98278004Wrong. GW is a british company and they think >China has more people with more money, more china shit more moneyNo one in China would care if a british mini making company has a mongol themed unit. White americans get angreir if theres a black mini than the chinese would if theres a mongol one
>>98277629>Chaos is the only faction that does horrible shit solely for the sake of being horrible (except for the Imperium, who also does horrible shit for the sake of being horrible lmao)The great majority of the time Chaos and Imperium are doing horrible things for an actual reason, not for the sake of being horrible itself.For Imperium it's usually justified by:>Scare the population to keep them in line to prevent crime and Chaos corruption and battlefield desertion which would otherwise be impossible to keep in check >Make the best use of limited resources>Religious veneration > The risk of a single Chaos cultist turning a whole planet into HellOr>Nobles being corrupt cunts hoarding wealthFor Chaos it's usually justified by:>I personally enjoy this>This will please Khorne/Slaanesh/Nurgle/Tzeentch and gain me their favour for Princehood>I have a lobotomy machine in my brain that hurts when I'm not maiming for Khorne>Mental gymnastics: "the Imperium is evil and by doing evil things we will defeat the Imperium, thus stopping the evil (pay no heed to the destroyed galaxy and trillions of consumed souls)"The justification of the Imperium usually holds up a lot better than Chaos or Drukhari.Are there times when the Imperium does unjustified horrible shit? Absolutely.
>>98278016Wonder if you can see Kundun in Disney plus. I mean the ccp does not care about this things.
>>98278026Disney and GW are different companies and Disney sees it could make loads more money than GW from China so are overly safe and self censor to what they think could cause issues for China. Also a US movie maker company vs UK mini models one. CCP has people censor foreign films I don't think they have foreign minitures censorers. Very very different mediums, different art forms, different levels of interest from the Chinese people. I promise you if you showed a CCP offical a mongol themed space marine they wouldn't care/ think its neat because cool little models are cool even to people not interested in the hobby. People like statues
Having daemon primachs actually lead their cult legions and massive armies was a mistake. They shoud be sad, sort of pathetic beings that exist in ancient dungeons or places that was important to them in life. Shadows of their former selves and slaves to the gods, their excistence meant to mock the Emperor and not be great generals or the main leaders for each god. Fulgrim should be in some ancient huge temple on Istvaan V standing at the spot where he slew Ferrus Manus
>>98278075Like you that idea gay.
Farming Angron is fun when you have the guild spawncampiing his respawns.
>>98278051Did you miss the safety committee for Cathy?
>>98278075>They shoud be sad, sort of pathetic beingsThey mostly are. Angron has almost no thoughts left, just the nails and is a missile that Khorne launches into realspace to bring slaughter to his enemies.Mortation has been suffering from "notice me, daddy!" syndrome for 10,000 years because Typhus has always been Nurgle's favorite.Magnus, for all his magical prowess, knows that he's on Tzeench's short leash. He's fully aware that everything he has is a pittance of what Tzeench could give him and he has to play good little lapdog to keep getting those scraps.Fulgrim is so demented these days he can't focus on anything and could quite possibly be the most powerful of the primarchs, but he gets bored easily and will wander off from battlefields if things don't go his way. Either to sulk that he lost or to whine that it was too easy and he's bored.Perty has tuned his turbo autism into full model trail boomer mode. But instead of trains he obsessively builds daemon engines.
>>98278107That's UK boomers self censoring to prevent any outrage by chinese consumers, not the CCP government giving GW a list of do's and don'ts. Very different things
They made Cathay boring. The only interesting parts are the Imperium parts.
>>98278110>Typhus has always been Nurgle's favorite.And yet Daemon Prince for no-names yet not for Typhus. Nurgle must enjoy his despair.
>>98278110Isn't Perty taking and fortfying worlds in like an interstellar trench warfare to reach Terra?I get your point anon but I'm more thinking their eccentric quirks of history you have to seek out to find and not guys with any angecy or leading armies or whatever. Angron being a braindead rage monster thats teleported from battlefield to battlefield suits him for my idea. The rest should be pathetic.
I am still trying and failing to learn how to counter Juren.
>>98278129He doesn’t want to be a demon prince. Being one is a curse, Kharn Ahriman bile and he all know it from looking at their primarchs.
>>98278123Eh, the first wave of Cathay lore where everything was perfect and harmonious turned out to be a lie and there are constant peasant revolts that need to be put down by the dragon children (except by Yin-yin who constantly shirks her duties), not to mention Chaos cults, rat infestations and incursions from that faggot monkey king in the south.
>>98278139That too is just more Imperium and not even originally. The China parts are shallow and boring.
>>98278075disagree
>>98278139Yea but the Imperium doesnt have cute and sexy dragon mommies whom I want to step on my face while she tells me about schematics from Nan-gau.
>>98278134Guard Break after blocking his side light
>>98278149Pissbuckets, meant to quote >>98278142
Cathay lacks thighs.
>>98277588I’m pretty sure most evil faction is Drukhari but they’re not quite a central faction so I think you made the right choice.
We need xenos.
>>98278169wrong
>>98278169Tell me about the females.
Votann Titan
>>98278197fuck off destinyfag
>>98278197DEldar Titan
>>98277871>collect eldar>have a singular scout I got as a free monthly minifuck, he's right... still pissed I missed out on the free fire dragon forever ago, still got the striking scorpion.
>>98277687>>98277896Also orks are getting a flyboyz detachment in their codex.
>>98278197
updated my "things I own for my army" list for 11th.
>>98278176We need more stories of xenos stealing farm animals.
>>98277864>GW seems to be removing fliersthey reworked fliers and slashed the points on most of them. they probably won't be competitive staples but e.g. the heldrake is 175 (down 40)
>>98278238>nearly 8000 points of grey knightswhy?
>>98278246Why not?
>>98278246well 800~ is the thunderhawk. 3000ish is agents/inquisition stuff. and the canis rex is on there.mostly just because its fun. I like it.
>>98278246>>98278248To paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson - once you get locked into a serious miniature collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
>>98278239We already have Dark Eldar stealing mon-keigh, which is basically what you're describing.
>>98277493Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was quick and nimble and/or Blanchitsu and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my june collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's vote:https://strawpoll.com/YVyPva3lAgNHope to see a tribute or two to blanche
>>98278139The impression I got from the lore is that in the era that TWW takes place the timeline is far enough along that Cathay’s decline is rather overt while in TOW they rewound the clock so logically things shouldn’t be that bad yet. They’re allegedly gonna fast forward the clock a little so they can do a major Chaos invasion of everywhere so if James is smart they’ll introduce the fractious elements there. Though you know how they are….
>>98277659The death korps have been around since waaaay before that book ever came out. Ever since the first FW models came out and their debut in imperial armour 5, they've had helmets closer to stahlhelms. Not sure why Steve Lyons wrote them as having spiked helmets.
>>98277493>20 necrons vs. 10 deathwatch kill team (contains large terrain playset for adult men), two kill teams (new content)250 USD>7 tau vs. 6 space wolves in the dead silence box, two kill teams both new112 USD>shadowhunt chaos lord+new kill team vs. 9 sisters also new145 USD>red terror and gaunts vs. 10 imperial guard (new tyranid model and kill team)165 USD>3 exodites and two dogs and 15 fucking beast snaggas, only one of which is a new team and the rest are 'npo' leftovers191 USDGW is run by cunts, absolute fucking cunts.
>>98277687BRIGHTSTALLION
>>98277739centurions are based
>>98277710Not touching it until it gets sold as its own kit I do not play orks, especially not beast snaggas
>>98278288Not to say gw's prices aren't generally higher than they need to be, but this specifically isn't as bad as it seems if you put these values in an inflation calculator and compare the dollar to what it was at the time of the previous boxeshttps://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
>>98277710with them i can field the greatest ranger list ever. foot rangers, jetbike rangers, and lizard rangers.it would be dogshit, but at least it would have a theme
>>98277493>How much do you think one's army reflects one's personality and values?Imperium fans are tankiesEldar fans are anarchistsTau fans are fascistsOrk fans are apoliticalTyranid fans are womenNecron fans are monarchists
the real heroes of 40kthe humble guardsmen
>>98278365another dub for the eldar
Games?
>>98278272>>98277606
Reminder if your chaos or imperium army contains women you are an honorary woman.
>>98278075>the daemon primarchs should be dark souls bosses!uhhh no thanks
>>98278395Primarchs shouldn't be in 40k. Daemon primarchs can be the exception due to being immortal daemons, but their presence minimised by being Dark Soul bosses is as good as solution to the primarch question as any
>>98277500No, like that (waiting on you to arrive)
What is the most common army for transwomoen?
>>98278456I want to say either Nids or Sisters
The ending of the aeronautica imperialis animation was some bullshit
>>98278456Space Marines, The Hanged to be most precise.
>>98278395>>98278422Just imagine how funny it would be if the Daemon Primarchs were removed from their respective army lists and instead just got re-implemented as in an NPO-style mechanic for specific organized play missions in 40k
>>98278456Tyranids easily.
>>98278456>bio girlsnids>tgirlssisters or chaos depending on if they like the imperium larp or not
So you have to play nids to pass?
>>98278484If you have to ask then you're never going to pass
>>98278456Eldar and Orks in my experience
>Fuck everyone, THE GALAXY IS OURS FOR THE TAKING!Best pirate faction for this feeling?
>>98278494Dark Eldar, the true apex predators of the galaxy
>>98278494Red Corsairs
I'm going to do it...I'm going to play Disruption. I am a contrarian.https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/bbsjH
>>98278494/yourguys/
Which is more common, painting EC in heresy era colors or the 40k black and pink?
Love the Marines simple as
>>98278516I see way more heresy style ones.
>>98278537Black and pink it is. It'll probabaly be harder to pull off but I'd rather stand out
>>98278539I suggest when painting pink, to paint purple and highligh up to it as needed as opposed to painting pink straight on.
>>98278544>as opposed to painting pink straight on.Well shiet cuz I bought monument hobbies Pro Acryl Flourescent Pink thinking it would be a good idea... lol oh well. My dad's gonna call me a FAG when he sees an army painted pink (he likes my toy soldiers)
>>98278539Try to prime them in white or light grey. It'll make your pinks pop a lot more without slapping on too many coats.
Building the Van Vet kit, they have two of them on the ground as opposed to having their ankles stuck on tactical rocks and it’s such a cool poses comparatively to the ones “in the air”. The models look great, but the Tactical rocks are ridiculous in this box lmao
>>98278539If you really wanna stand out, try a “non-standard” 40k warband
>>98277892I do believe they won't make an actual triceratops for the weapon platform either they use a sauropod instead or something a bit more alienI'm betting on a sauropod though, because lizardmen don't have that one and because they can give it a similar draconic head as the raptors and keep the dragon name
>>98277664>Khorne player>angrily rejects the idea of considering something on a deeper level
>>98278624I mean, you can't tell me there isn't a consideration here
I've refunded my latest warhammer audiobook and uninstalled darktide and space marine 2 and put my collection in auction in preparation for amazons warhammer show
>Exodite Eldar look exactly like Craftworld Eldar, just on dinosaursBoo
>>98278639you are a secondary once againall is right in the world
>>98278632Huh I never noticed the sauropod head was that shaped. I do like the aquatic fin on its headI hope now that we know more about dinosaurs compared to when those drawings were made. Instead of Pterodactyl stand ins, we get exodites riding quetzalcoatlus.
>>98277761very nice artwork
>>98278652gonna be real with you, azhdarchid proportions look fucking retarded to me
>>98277687we'll get more than 3there is NO way that they decided to give this guy these design cues and name if not because they're also remaking a bonesinger
>>98278655Sure but that won't stop GW.>Raptor riding elves kill team>Elves riding the biggest carnivore dinosaur >Elves riding the biggest herbivore dinosaur>>98278632>Elves riding the biggest flying dragonWe could even get exodites riding a space mosasaurus for water dinosaurs as well.
>>98278380I hate that I can't tell what army this is supposed to be
>>98277493Why can't I find Demons and Imperial Knights codex for 10th anywhere online?
>>98278686>Daemonsthey don't have a 10e codex>Knights you're not looking hard enough
>Chaos: Cut all of CSM, just make the Warp a crazy magic dimension that drives you insane shits out wacky daemons sometimes. Maybe keep Thousand Sons. Make the setting more about religious humans fighting asshole aliens>Chaos Daemons: Make them less reliant on epic hero units instead of normal armies>Chaos Knights: Cut, make them allied units for other Chaos armies>Guard: Just replace super old models (Catachan) and add more 'alternate' Guard regiments besides Catachans>Space Marines: No changes, though maybe spread some love around to other armies instead of the poster boys>Sisters: Add more obvious faith magic things besides Celestine, like obviously magic powers or more lesser angels>Admech: No changes>Grey Knights: Revamp the models to be the right scale, otherwise no changes>Custodes: Cut, should just be a lore thing>Knights: Cut, make them allied units for other Imperial armies>Eldar: Redo the really old units>Dark Eldar: Redo the models, they're all old by now>Necrons: No changes>Votann: Emphasize the rune magic and 'repurposed mining equipment' parts>Tau: Just cut the Kroot and Vespid, you clearly want this army to be about gundam mech suits>Tyranids: Personally, I hate bioguns with flesh magazines, but I know that's not going anywhere, so no changes>GSC: I would like to see epic heroes, but I don't know how you'd do it
>>98278686there's no demon codex anymore https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jl3uxdbu/index-chaos-daemons-updated-datasheets-and-a-new-detachment/
>>98278699Fuck off with this repost.
>>98278693I see>>98278700Oh?! thanks
>>98278643Always did
are exodites just eldar mennonites
>>98278712no
>>98278712Exodites aren't pacifists and all we really know about them is their warrior class, ie their dragon knights means its a culture with violence at its heart. Exodites seem really really martial and aggresive turning any beast they can into war animals.There's no real irl cultures that shunned/rejected technology living standards to be more modest and pure but was still hyper martial and warfare focused.
Eldarbros, I thought this edition we'd skate by with a nominal character refresh around the codex but here we go with new shit already even though corsairs just came out. There's too much shit to buy.
>>98278671Looks like the champion from Shadowspear so probably CSM? A lot of legends stuff though.
>>98278699It sounds like you want 40k to be Halo
I dont mind the new boyz kit but fuck those push fit gaps arent great. For better than the last one but still that shit is fuckin annoying
>>98278727These are the last years of designs from our lord and saviour jes goodwin, after that eldar will go back to sleep for 30 more years.
>>98277529Marines Malevolent?
Is there some rule that prevents me from having C'Tan , 3 monoliths and 2 doomscythes as my army?
>>98278766cut the pegs
>>98278766snip off the pegs, i had no problem. zero gaps if you remove them
>>98278772Ancient necron law prohibits the deployment of multiple ctan shards.
>>98278779>>98278782Yeah fuck, ill do that for the 2nd lot. Thought it was unusual having to use a fair bit of sprue goo
This is what i've got to work withXenos - TyranidsDeathleaper (80pts)The Swarmlord (220pts)Broodlord (80pts)Hive Tyrant (195pts)Neurotyrant (105pts)Tervigon (160pts)Winged Tyranid Prime (65pts)20x Hormagaunts (130pts)20x Termagants (120pts)20x Termagants (120pts)10x Genestealers (140pts)6x Von Ryan's Leapers (140pts)3x Zoanthropes (100pts)3x Ripper Swarms (50pts)3x Ripper Swarms (50pts)Norn Emissary (260pts)Screamer-killer (125pts)Screamer-killer (125pts)Tyrannofex (200pts)what should i cut to get this down to 2k? i dont have the cash for more units right now so i've gotta work with what i've got here. and what detachments would go well with this hodgepodge?
>>98278790alternatively, if you really like using the pegs to line up the model, you can take your knife and sharpen the pegs at the end like a pencil. this prevents the flared flat end from causing the friction and compression and will usually keep them from getting stuck, minimizing gaps as long as you dont get glue in the pegs hole. but its also 5x more work than just snipping the peg.
Do you think love can bloom on the tabletop?
New meme just dropped
>>98278838Is warhammer plus content so awful that people gave up and stopped providing means of downloading to pirate it?Are the animations so terrible that they aren’t worth pirating in general?Are they so bad they go beyond good and become inspiring?
>>98278718
>>98278845>Are the animations so terrible that they aren’t worth pirating in general?yeah
>>98278847If Exodites were written like this it would be very fitting and funny. Imagine the brutal jihads (in the Dune sense) they would launch on any human settlements they found on maiden worlds.
Visiting my folks and found my old eldar codexes in my childhood room. Eldar are what got me into 40k in the first place.
>>98278847Based and Linkola pilled.
>>98278865>>98278873>malthusianism in 2026Lol
>>98278865
>>98278896Linkola was not a malthusian, retard. He was an ecofascist.
>>98278910I love that picture. Biel-Tan ought to be depicted as unhinged supremacist lunatics more often.
>>98278928Don't Craftworld Eldar do necromancy stuff all the time with sending the souls of their dead to pilot wraiths and vehicles?
>>98277529They're pretty reddit, but they get overlooked by the most cowardly, most reddit chapter of all: space wolves
Is there any core rule that prevents me from fielding multiple high non-unique character units instead of hordes of fodder? I'm getting back into the game after 20 years and I don't like having too many miniatures to move around
>>98278973They don't do it all the time, in eldar standards it's only done in rare circumstances, except for iyanden, they do it all the time since the second tyrannic war.
>>98278979Most armies have some way to play hyper elite lists. You can bring three of any non-epic hero unit to a game, but they have recently added a point tax to spamming three of a unit to discourage doing it except for fun.
The first week of competitive 40k stats are here. Sample sizes small as always and lots of tournaments still fuzzy on the rules but first the meta is beginning to take shape. No reporting yet on what dispositions everyone is playing but more detailed analysis coming tomorrow.
>>98278994Is there any such list that is top tier and doesn't involve humans augmented, demonic or otherwise?
>>98278662>bonesinger remakeplzplzplzplzplz
>>98278999Oh, and out of 12 events the actual event winners were:>Tau: 4 wins>Tyranids: 2 Wins>Drukhari: 1 Win>Thousand Sons: 1 Win>Sisters of Battle: 1 Win>Leagues of Votann: 1 Win>Necrons: 1 Win>Space Marines: 1 Win
>>98278928>>98278910They will write that 40k is the worst, most grimdark thing ever and then actual events are the mildest shit ever.I've seen more hatred and zealotry on twitter than the whole of 40k.
>>98279002It's never going to be top tier because the mission structure of the game naturally favors armies that have more activations. You can probably get good results playing purge or take and hold with something like Tyranid monster mash or Knights or CTan Necrons where most of your score just comes from killing things and standing on points.
>>98278838>job>fulfilling lifepick one
>>98279012Chaos knights or imperial knights? Knights look fun
>>98278910This historic picture makes some retards mad if they even know that i commissioned r34 of this
>>98279018>Knights look funthey aren't
>>98279018I think Imperial Knights gets to use more of their actual big models while Chaos Knights just spams the smaller war dogs. Still only like an 10-14 model and relatively fast to play.
>>98279017crazy to think boomers were complaining about working in a cubicle and still have a life when the current generation cant have either.
>>98278718this is because it's oxymoronic, military history is the history of technology and technique. intentionally discarding them in favor of RETVRN larping inherently stunts your martial ability.
>>98279018you don't do knights because of fun play patterns, you do them because you dig their look. One quarter you can mix and match anything in the army and another 3 you scrap by some waacfaggotry to tie with models/configs you might not even like
>>98279022>they [people A] say it's just funny jokes, but they [people B] are targeting [controversial people]This is just guilty by association.
>>98279022Lmao, I made the edit that fag is whining about.
>>98279022>streets are sayingwhat fucking fag way of saying you've seen an edgy meme.Editing a shit writer into a meme about them being killed by elves is funny and also not hurting anyone. Morons
>>98279025The reality is that some people are conflating retarded narcissistic boomers with the other boomers.It's a pretty normal leap in logic, unfortunately. Same way you hear "young people this", "old people that", "tau players this", "marine players that".I'd like to say I don't understand why people bundle everyone together, but the truth is they are lazy cunts who want a reason and target to deflect their frustration or self-hatred onto.
>>98279032Thank you anon I just realised I didn't have it saved
>>98279032Kinda ironic that i made that shitty edit with mike and post it here, but someone in xitter made far better version
>>98279023Why exactly?>>98279024I see, that makes sense>>98279028I really like the way they look. But I also like winning. If I have a nice looking army and don't have a clear advantage I am not interested.
>>98279022>I dont like this memeokay.
>>98279057
Speaking of eldar, does anyone have scans of the old eldar codexes from like the first 3 or 4 editions?
>>98279063:)>>98279067Rutracker is your best friend, anon
>>98279057Lmao based
>>98278999>look on listhammer>no gsc lists foundill give it a month but im guessing the army rule hasnt been fixed yet
>>98279022>spoileruhhh link?
>>98279057I genuinely hope that brooks gets killed. I hate that faggot.
>walk into any lgs nearby>a stack of armageddon boxes near the entrance at every oneprobably shouldve made the marine side better, its become apparent that the marinebros are the ones who determine how well this shit sells
>>98279099With other words: GW finally made enough boxes, so new players actually have a chance to buy a launch box in any random store they walk into for some months at least, and scalpers have no profits this time.Might be financially not as great for all those stores sitting on the boxes now, but generally, this is how any new release should be: plenty of product available, so people can actually buy it.
>>98279022The way the warhammer 40k eldar view themselves compared to humans is pretty close to how nazis viewed Germans compared to everyone else funnily enough.
>the starter box is better than the Armageddon boxwhat were they thinking
>>98279112It was true for leviathan already.
>>98279128nah the story book and the Dreadnaught were way cool
>>98279099weird, it sold out in every shop around me, had to make a two hour drive to almost the next state for my box since I didn't want to wait weeks for GW to ship one
>not enough bare heads for all marines in the boxarmageddon is TRASH
>>98279057brooks is winning, thriving and getting paid to slop books for BL. The chad stays winning and you stayed triggered snowflake.
how well did leviathan sell? i had a friend buy it at the time but i wasnt paying attention / getting back into the hobby
>>98279136Boy, do I have a set for you!
>>98279058>Why exactly?They're a stat check army. Your opponent either built a list capable of reliably taking down whole knights every turn and you get tabled halfway through the game, or they didn't and you do the same to them. Knights ignore a lot of terrain and visibility rules and don't get weaker as they take damage (like an infantry squad would) so you only interact with part of the actual game, which isn't interesting for either player.
>>98279112only if you need the terrain. throwing in all those paints with the getting started sets ruins those as well.
>>98279168I don't see them topping any meta winrates however, so I am guessing all the sidestepping of rules doesn't amount to much in the end. Sounded pretty fun for me otherwise.
>>98279091>uhhh link?https://x.com/BlindWildcat/status/2008569444868780063
>>98279194if you like to know whether you win or lose on turn 1 and still have to play things out for an hour and a half then yeah, maybe you'd find it fun.skew lists in general aren't much fun, and knights are an extreme skew faction that should never have been added to 40k.
>>98279204I get what you are saying, and yeah I enjoy knowing ahead of time so I can play out the ones I will win and automatically surrender the ones I won't.What does skew mean in this context? Skewed towards one style of play? Build against or lose?
How's this banner looking, gents?Was trying to go for an older, more simple Ork banner look with a single design and some checkers for my Warboss.I'll probably do something more flashy on the banner nob
>>98279199>Must be logged into to view adult content>Live in a fucking nanny state demanding you scane a QR code to confrim your an adultfuck this gay earth, used one of my ways around to see it. Good shit anon very funny you comissioned porn of that shitpost image
>>98279140>brooks is winning, thriving and getting paid to slop books for BLHe got demoted to a free lance artist
>>98279238>He got demoted to a free lance artistBL mostly freelance authors?
>>98279222It means building a list to one uniform extreme gimmick. Like recon guard lists packing in hundreds of infantry and no tanks, clogging up the whole board. Knights are all extremely high toughness and wounds. Any reasonable, balanced army will be taking what they need to kill a few tanks, but a typical knight army is all super heavy tanks.
>Glazing homosexual authors who are pushing 50 and suffering from Aids to 'own the chuds' The state of /40kg/!
>>98279247It's just trolls because Mike Brooks shilling is low hanging fruit.
>>98279136What kind of person wants more burger heads?
>>98279225Looking great so far. Might need to tidy up the checkers on the sides though.
>>98279111Eldar don't run tons of non-Eldar auxilia.
Help us GW...we can be a real army if you let us...give us something....
>>98279326Have you ever considered that GW doesn't want Agents to be a real army?
News that came that morning told that the main force had been slainChance for peace and justice gone and all talks had been in vainA warboss had been offended and he has gone the path of waaaghNow that 1500 men are dead and the Orks at the doorOrk boyz attack,Fight back to backShow them no mercy andFire at willKill or be killedFacing, awaitingA hostile spear, a new frontier, the end is nearThere’s no surrenderThe lines must hold, their story told, Orke’s Drift controlled
>>98279225The checker pattern looks better than anything I could paint.
>>98279326>he fell for the imperial agents memeGrim. Grim dark even.
>>98279225Pretty damn noice
>>98279317meevery marine in my army is getting a bare head
>>98279350Based
>>98279350That must be harsh on your jaw.
What's up with Orks? Did they just get their points cut too much to push new boxes?
>>98279326lol your faction can't even be played at 1k point games where it'd probably be less shitty
>>98279326People, and gw, need to understand that agents are not an army and shouldn't be an army.They are to be a supplement of units to drop into other imperial armies and a way to soup all imperial armies under a unifying lord inquisitor.If any of these two approaches is limited or faulty, then agents don't work.
>>98279320>>98279342>>98279347Alright cool, glad it turned out good. I'll do another once-over on the checkers before I glue it to the warboss. Honestly I didn't notice a lot of the small screw-ups on those until I took that picture. Much harder to see small flaws in person.
>>98279350I didn't say bare headI said burger head
>>982793663DP detachments are legal in 1K play.
>>98279366They changed that actually. You can now always choose to run any single detachment in any game mode regardless of DP cost.
>>98279225Is that you i like orks :D anon?
>>98279376Oh GW understand that alright. They just to scam the dumb idiots that think agents could be a real army.
>>98279326Hey anon, James Workshop here.We've heard you and want you to know that soon Agents will be getting a huge buff when we fold the Grey Knights into their codex!**No new models will be produced for the Grey Knights though.
>>98279401Nah I'm not active enough to ritual post.If I were to, it'd be Blue iz Best with some old deffskullz art.
>>98279410Oh its blork man. I've only just assembling the armadeggon ork half today, now im trying to figure out what I should paint first
We are Ogre Kingdoms so creative, cool and interesting while 40k ogyrns are giant retards with gant retard strength who can't count to 3?
>>98279401>thinking that’s mebro, I wish I was that good at freehanding. look at my fucking “spider” on the right ratlings gun.
>>98279418In this tribe, we stand for the maw.
>gw can't sculpt female face-ACCKKKKKKyou have a skill issue
>>98279415I did the wartrakk and am working on the Warboss' now because those two are the only kits I did in sub assemblies.What I'll probably do from here on is 5 Boyz>character>5 Boyz>character... And so on until I decide to do the dakkarig (or more likely I have the other half of the range refresh and start on those)
people bitch about the price but there is enough detail in these models that people actually think i am good at painting because i can do basically 3d paint by numbers and the detail work speaks for itself, any time i have to do actual art it is still just stick figues and a smiley face sun but friends and family treat me like some sad artist thanks to james workshop's toys
>>98279448>Just be a Golden Daemon level painter!This. So much this!
>>98279457Being honest, it's surprising how few people accept that 40k models are really just 3d coloring books market towards nerds instead of kids (at least nowadays).Nothing wrong with that, but online I see too many people treating model painting with much higher regard than it really deserves.
>>98279463>with much higher regard than it really deserves.And who the FUCK are you?
>>98277305>the multimelta dread in a drop podMan that takes me back. Extremely common 5e answer to "what should I add to my list I'm having trouble fighting all these vehicles"Good unit. Cheap in points, cheap in money too because starter set.
>>98279460>he thinks this is golden demon levelrumao
I want to see a sprueIt seems like there are 4 legs for Dinos and you switch torsos for themIt may be possibly easy to kitbash 4th raider
>>98279448palos a qt3.14
>>98279482>this isn't golden daemon level>there are folks who walk off the street and start painting their first day that paint at this level!
>>98279460That's nowhere near GD-level paintjob. I'd say it's above average.
>>98279489It's interesting that the dragon knights all have shimmershields (or whatever the exodite equivalent is). I hope they're like tankier shining spears.
>>98279482when i can get a 3rd robot arm implanted that doesn't always tremble like a little bitch maybe i can paint shit that small
>>98279471Someone who enjoys 3d coloring books?
>>98279493lmao this is your average warhammer paintjob
>>98279503No? This is a bad paintjob.
>>98279503Post your goofy faces, gentlemen.
>>98279503It certainly was in the late 90s when I started. The baseline level of painting has gotten way higher among newbies it seems with readily available tutorials for everything. That said, there are a lot more totally unpainted armies these days too.
>>98279489if I didn't know better I would have thought these were AoS models tbqh
This is what I mean exactly. Looks like you can swap between torsos on those two legs. And there is a 4th set of legs for a guy on the right with a different tactical rock.And of course there are different heads for dinos hiding seams under necklaces >>98279496I want more actual shield units in 40k in general. Cawl should have reinvented Breachers ages ago
>>98279510>""""newbies""""
>>98279517why does a marine need a shield? plate armour made shields obsolete irl. they were only used for street fighting and sport after that.
>>98279537because marines are knights in space and shields are cool as fuck, you spastic pig!
>>98279537now plate armor can't even protect against swords (fancy ones) so the boards are also back
>>98279549what's a held shield going to do that the shield the marine is wearing won't?
>>98279557Deflect an impact away from center of mass and leave the opponent's guard open?
>>98278344You missed the point of my post, GW employee. None of the Orks are new units, they exist purely to fluff the priceof the box.
>>98279557block the attackare you completely braindead or are you doing a bit
>>98279557historically a shield is usually several times as thick as the worn armor, even when they had plate they still used them for protection in jousting
>>98279489You're not going to find a 4th chest for the dino, or a 4th saddle+legs for a rider
I want The Red Terror, but it seems most of them are scalped to $150 which is a lotIs it likely to be sold separately?
>>98279581it is undoubtedly going to get sold separately by the time kill team:exodites comes out.But you should look for the groups of lgs in your area for people who may be splitting the box contents, because that's the cheapest way you're going to get the red terror
>>98278272This is my submission. Finally done with this mess that I started years ago.
>>98279591you and heavy metal anon make coming here worth it
>>98279591I gotta be real, I always thought the wip was you being untidy and having all your models scattered around everywhere, and its only now I realize its meant to be a diorama.
>>98278272Here are the ensemble pics. I let you choose which you'd prefer to put on your collage between this and >>98279591
>>98279578I think I could use blue stuff to recast dino torso. Blue stuff works great for organic pieces which do not have to be perfectI have many leftover bits from Eldar so Rider should be easy too
>>98278272I'm hoping we get a lot of submissions this month.
>>98279600Thank you. But I really am running out of 40k minis to paint. My backlog is done.Whos the Heavy Metal anon? I know I enjoy the TS anon, the cheddar tau mech anon, and the BL anon with his banners.>>98279601Well, I am untidy and these are models scattered around my backlog. Good thing herlequins make for great and messy dioramas.
>>98279620Crikey, an Australian
>>98279572used in sport where mobility was not a factor and not dying was both parties priority. it just looks dumb for a marine in full power armour to hold a shield like he's a modern crowd control officer wearing clothes and maybe a stab vest.
>>98279637Let me guess, your favourite marines are the Phobos
>>98279637it was used in that sport becuase the armor did not fully protect against the force exerted, they would rarely see such an attack in an actual battle in that time, in 40k they do.>why would you care about not dying in a battle, that's only for sportimagine most every enemy you see hitting you with the force of a lance and speed of horse, they use the shields because they need the shields, same reason shields are always usedi think they look cool as fuck
>>98278179Wong*>>98278643>Exodites look just like Craftworlders, except for the dinosaurs, tilt shields, axes, large robes, leather belt, leather pants, leather bracers, charms, antler crests, and basically everything except the gun and general shape of the conical helmet
Guys, hear me outGyaru Howling Banshees
>>98279637>a marine in full power armour to hold a shieldYou realize the shields contain a fucking force field generator right
>>98279715You have to understand, these retards thought "space wood elves" meant they would literally be using bows and going naked covered in nothing but mud and body paint with sticks and leaves in their hair. These are the same uncreative louts who would literally give Freebootaz flying wooden pirate ships with 18th century cannons if they could.
New Outriders.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/k6fjovqr/the-siege-of-death-mire-week-1-results/
>>98279748*yawn*
>>98279748>
>>98279748>updating Intercessors that are from 8th edition>updating fucking Outriders from 9thGW what the fuck are you doing
>>98279748So the next month will just be 40k reveals for either Orks or Space Marines then
Has anyone besides White Scars players ever even really given a shit about biker Marines? They're never as cool in practice as they could be in concept.
>>98279748>not a single mk6 or mk7 helmet shownwhat was even the point in advertising they were making a return so much?
>>98279748>Video is yarrick saying the outer defences can no longer hold, and they must retreat>Imperial 'victory'Wat
>>98279748I fucking hate primaris
>>98279782so people can make soijak thumbnails during the 11e reveal hype
>>98279748God these are boring
>>98279782It's called bait, it's used to convince the fat fish to eat the hook.
>>98279782They only put like two Mk 7 helmets in the Armageddon box squad as well. >guys look look! Now if you paypig again you can have only 80% of your squad with dogshit primaris helmets! And oh most of them will still have the gay primaris knees and 100% of them will have the gay primaris backpacks and bolt rifles
>>98279769I don't know if it's still true but 15 years ago I knew a GW corporate insider who told me they just let the sculptors do whatever they want and worry about fitting it into the game after the fact. This was responsible for a lot of new units that had no real role in the army list.
>>98279795It is unbelievable the level of negative talent it takes to make a concept like "genetically augmented space knights in powered armour riding armoured motorcycles with guns" and turn it into something this bland. Bravo GW studio interns.
>>98279748>They put a little asterisk saying that you can use other armies to contribute to the campaginWas this how it was for the 10th launch campagin? It reads like they know that Armageddon is not selling nearly as much as 9th and 10th launch boxes.
crying over primaris in 2026 is this most modelless thing one can do
>>98279815I don't remember them saying that for 10th, no. In 10th you were supposed to just use the armies in the box.
>>98279818Seethe more that no one likes your primaris trash, you fucking lost
>>98279785I don’t know how its decided, but presumably its a pyrrhic victory where the orks spent a massive amount of lives and resources in order to only take over the first wall, while the imperials were chilling behind it, and were able to just run away to the next wall as soon as the orks broke the first one down.
>>98279376Agents are an army, GW sold them as an army, therefore they should be a usable army.There is no lore reason why they can't be an army. Canonically they are the forces Inquisitors have authority and muscle to command.There is no gameplay reason why they can't be an army. All it takes is will from GW to make them actually good.Don't do GW's laziness shilling for them.
>>98279827The main thing about agents is the bulk of their forces were supposed to be made of sisters of battle and inquisitorial stormtroopers (scions) and those are now in a separate codex or folded into Imperial Guard.
>>98279815>not selling nearly as much as 9th and 10th launch boxesI want this to be true so GW gets the message that we don't want these lazy primaris updates and that 10th only sold because of Terminators that were faithful to Firstborn designs.But I don't want orkbros to get fucked by GW thinking the box is doing poorly because people don't like Orks or something.
>>98279827>All it takes is will from GW to make them actually good.But that's never going to happen which means they're not an army, will never be an army, and both people and gw need to understand that the only way for them to not be a joke is make them a supplement.
These new outriders look great, I don't know what you all are crying about.
>>98279827>Canonically they are the forces Inquisitors have authority and muscle to command.adding inquisitors and their hanger-on's to an existing army is one way to represent it just fine, and the other way is allowing allies.
>>98279850Kek
>>98279825if no one liked primaris then they would have been squattedyou lost, doomsissy (even though you've never bought a model in your life and never will) :)
>>98279834I know people don't usually like soup (I imagine because it generalizes list building and is a nightmare to balance) but if we are allowed to have one (aside from daemons) an agents codex makes the most sense. KT is getting players into the game, so GW has alternative financial incentive to make the agents codex good. I hope that they fixed how the writing teams are handled for this edition codices (copium)
Do you think the new outriders kit is just the same one repackaged with an extra sprue?
>>98279827>>98279851Agents should just be rebranded to Inquisition and have the Grey Knights, Deathwatch, and SoB folded into them.
>>98279748I’m so tired boys GW releases have just hit peak creative bankruptcy for me. Over the past week>resculpt of outriders>resculpt of chaos warriors>resculpt of ogres >resculpt of mek and trukk>resculpt of Goliath and escher gangs>resculpt of rat ogre/minotaurThe only thing that got a little glimmer of joy out of me was exodites and I don’t even like elves, then ruined by repackaging the existing snaggas into the box.I want GW to actually make something new and interesting, but pic related reminds me they can’t even do that
>>98279853I dont know why primaris defending retards try going for the nomodels insult tactic, it doesn't even make logical sense. Obviously the people most annoyed by primaris are people who have old space marine models and are familiar with how much better the old designs were.
>>98279840Orkbros should be fine, they've had two successful codices over the past two editions, and I think the ork side of the launch box has been pretty well received. If anything I wonder if GW realizes that there is a limit to what you can charge for a launch box. Armageddon is around 50 ameribucks more than leviathan and less SM models too (don't remember the tyranid model count for comparison). My LGS still has plenty of Armageddon boxes sitting on the shelves.
Where can I get more bare elf heads for my eldar? I mean in AOS/TOW, or otherwise outside of the 40k range.
>>98279863>resculpt of ogresThere was a bunch of creative new shit with them, though, dont drag the ogre kino into this.I like the new trukk too.
>>98279869>Armageddon is around 50 ameribucks more than leviathanHoly shit didnt even realize this because it was the first time since 3rd I didn't buy a launch box. I saw the marines and decided I would just get the orks on ebay, didnt even look at a price tag.
Do any of you play kill team? I'm finding it really hard to get 40k games together these days and wonder if kill team is easier to do overall
>>98279857ecclesiarchy, rogue traders, assassins and the navy aren't part of the inquisition
>>98279870Dark Eldar wyches
>Orks dominating marines on table top>genuinely stronger units in the launch box>imperial victory!So imperium fans are just gonna rig the results to get more primaris slop? This is by far the worst outcome I can think of.
>>98279865>Obviously the people most annoyed by primaris are people who have old space marine modelsLol no, the most rabid primaris seethers are secondaries that enjoy burning themselves on 10 years old memes.
>>98279884>Do any of you play kill team?Trying to get my friends into it. It's much cheaper and easier.
>>98279891This is a complete fabrication in your delusional, mentally ill, rotted brain.
>>98279870idoneth have a billion but I assume you're not looking for the bald onesotherwise try DoK
>>98279748>only mk X helmetsPass.
>>98279891This is the complete truth only rejected by the delusional, mentally ill, and brain rotted.
>>98279885*requisitions your forces to do whatever I want in the name of the god emperor*nuthin personnel, kiddo
>>98279865Can we see your old space marine models?Don't forget to put my post number in the image :)
>>98279891>10 years old memesPrimaris supporter is an ESL, why am I not surprised. Probably some third world shitskin James is paying pennies per post to shill.
>>98279748Kewl but why limit the weapon options to the sergeant only? Squads of 3 axebros would be a lot cooler than most of the squad being locked to chainswords only.
>>98279919So in the future they can make Outrider Veterans as a separate box that costs slightly more for an extra sprue of capes and weapons.
>>98279910>n-no u
>>98279834>the bulk of their forces were supposed to be made of sisters of battle and inquisitorial stormtroopers (scions) and those are now in a separate codex or folded into Imperial Guard.Sure but they still have plenty of troops available.>>98279841>But that's never going to happenNot with that attitude of "make excuses for GW and let them do whatever they want". How would you feel if your army you paid $1000s for was sitting at 30% WR and someone told you GW wasn't going to ever fix it?>>98279851You don't need to "represent it just fine", because they already are just fine other than the strength of their army and missing a few units.They offer something people like - a standalone Inquisition army.>>98279857GK and DW yes since they fit lorewise and have tiny ranges who could do with helpSoB no, their range is too big and lorewise the Ecclesiarchy is powerful and independent and often at odds with the Inquisition.
>>98279922Grim how true this is.
>>98279925>"make excuses for GW and let them do whatever they want".I'm saying gw is approaching the entire thing wrong, I'm not excusing them, agents is a shit book BECAUSE gw is trying and failing to make it an army
>>98279452I might just paint the dakkarig first. Reckon its worth making the gun glow? Think i mentioned something about doing the same for wazdakka but someone here with gun knowledge said it wasn't really possible for something like that to glow hot
>>98279922>Outrider VeteransThey're going to be on grav bikes, nobody will ever buy normal bikers once they're out.
>>98279748>entire draw of Armageddon box marines half was that they were mixing old bits of armour into the suits again>here's a unit from only 6 years ago that's been resculpted again and no we didn't even bother putting old armour bits on them?????????????
>>98279891Im convinced anyone here who complains about the game and/or models is a secondary until proven otherwise
>>98279962>>entire draw of Armageddon box marines half was that they were mixing old bits of armour into the suits againI'm not even sure intercessors are getting replaced, the mixed armors might be just for the armageddon boxes and otherwise disappear once that's over.
>>98279885Inqusitiors theoretically have authority over everyone except Custodes, and most people are so scared shitless of the Inquisition that they will complyInquisition can even pull strings or intimidate to get favours done But large powerful military organisations are difficult (not impossible) for the Inquisition to command or intimidate, such as:>Imperial Guard >Space Marines>Ecclesiarchy (Sisters)>MechanicusNumerically small and/or non military organisations are a lot easier to press gang though and that's why they're part of Agents.>Navis breachers>Arbites civilian peacekeeping forces >Rogue Trader entourages>Assassins
>>98279971Holy fuck, imagine if we actually got bait-and-switched like that
>>98279925>they already are just fine other than not being fine at all
>>98279971It's not even mixed armour marks. If you look closer it''s still all Mark X
>>98279963Sun Tzu said a wise general only fights when he knows he can win. In military terms defending the new primaris outriders is what we call an uphill battle. (I think they're fine for what they are, just a little underwhelming)
these are some static ass bikers... again
>>98279975Numbers changes on a fucking digital PDF is literally all they need to fix their WR.
I actually don't see what even is the point of a new Space Marine bike if they weren't going to fix the ugly ass outrider design. Are they just obligated to do bikes for every faction this Edition because it's the go fast Edition? Was this just to make compatibility space for the rumored Ravenwing upgrade kit coming with Dark Angels this Edition?
>>98279972>the navy>the lex>the traders>the assassins>small and easy to press gangHow fucking dumb can you be?
>>98279769>>updating Intercessors that are from 8th editionIntercessors aren't getting updated.>>updating fucking Outriders from 9thOutriders were monopose.
They ride like 60 year old men on Harleys, but the bikes have a lower profile, so idk they just look like kids on toys.
>>98279977>I think they're fine for what they are, just a little underwhelmingNTA, they're obviously not outright bad models on the level of some other primaris slop like the suppressors and the invader ATV that are getting squatted. They're decent. It's just that literally nobody asked for a brand new 9th edition kit to be redone a mere 6 years later. Most of the kits that have been replaced over the last decade were updating models that were 20-25 years old, who the fuck needs a new kit for a unit that JUST came out during COVID?
>>98279977Oh i agree and it seems unnecessary if they are replacing a 9th edition sculpt, i just assume that most of the negative replies are either people who don't collect marines (unlikely) or posters who don't even have an army (likely)
>>98279985>because it's the go fast EditionThe releases of an edition are never themed, don't listen to the ramblings of the fat fuck unless he's relaying an actual rumor, his speculations and pattern seeking are trash and gw never actually sticks to patterns anyway.
So does that mean we are due for another calgar model?
>>98279972>>Ecclesiarchy (Sisters)The Sisters are the favoured ground troopers of the Ordo Hereticus though
>>98280003At this point all bets are off. Until recently I would have said you wont see updates to 5th ed models but now GW has fully tapped the well of updating 3rd/4th ed era stuff and has moved up to apparently updating models from as recently as 9th. I mean they released fucking Exodites they are absolutely running out of stuff to update and ideas. Could be anything next.
>>98279953It's Orks. If you want it to glow hot then make it glow hot.I won't be, I'll probably just add some druki violet to the end to give some muzzle burn or something.
Dark Eldar refresh soon
If we at least don't get mad dok grotsnik this edition im going to be FURIOUS
>>98279953>someone here with gun knowledge said it wasn't really possible for something like that to glow hotYeah dude I'm sure anonymous poster #3957346 is a real expert on fucking GREEN FUNGUS ALIEN SPACE GUNS ON A JET-POWERED SPACE MOTORCYCLE
>>98280021Damn anon have you become so demoralised that you can't even be bothered to type out the rest of your ritual post?
>>98280023>named character slopYuck. Unless the model is really good, then I'm okay with it, but a generic Mad Dok would be better.
>>98280031Well I'm not a burger so I'm definitely not going to argue with them over that subject
Are there any Space Marine chapters besides Space Wolves with a Cerulean color scheme?
>>98280038He's been in the game for decades up until recently, he isn't exactly "named character slop"
>>98280021It'll come this edition, unless they're saving them for 12th ed starter because they're out of ideas.In fact at this point the 12th ed starter set enemy half basically has to be either Dark Eldar or Dark Mechanicum. Since Amragedd9n was a nostalgiabait throwback to the 2e starter set maybe they're planning 12th edition to be a throwback to he 3e starter set with DE.
>>98280044All named characters are named character slop, anon.
>>98280039As a burger I can confirm we are experts on green fungus alien space guns, area 51 is part of the great US of A after all
>>98280031a gun is a gun, doesn’t matter if its shot by an animal, fungus, plant hybrid or not it still won’t glow.
>>98280023Sorry, orks are going to be irrelevant in 3 months when we go back to Abaddon and Vashtorr's wacky hijinks and then Perturabo's reveal at the end of the edition because Primarchs sellThen in 12e we'll get the Tau as punching bags for a month or so before starting up the Chaos cycle again.
>>9828005112th ed starter set will be space marines vs world eaters or thousand sons
>>98280042/yourdudes/?
Primarchs are the real named character slop, not a bunch of fuckin orks
I think the Minotaurs are cool and Moloc should get a model that's not made of r*sin.
Kind of based if Iron Warriors get the first Undivided Daemon Primarch ngl. I hate Loyalist Primarchs being brought back but the giant mutant Daemon ones don't bother me for some reason. I don't even play Chaos.
>>98280074>thousand sons>most of their half is new tzaangor units
>>98280092Erm actually it's impossible to be Chaos Undivided or Chaos Undecided as I like to call them
>>98280092>Undividedheh, about that....
>>98280092GW knows that if the Word Bearers got a proper bespoke release and Daemon Lorgar it'd make Abaddon and the Black Legion look like a joke.
>>98280074>box full of power armourWouldn't be surprised desu, its what the fans want
>>98280074World Eaters JUST got their berserker update what the fuck would they even put in the box? Launch sets always replace old Troops. Plus I don't think GW even likes doing power armour vs power armour boxes these days outside of Horus Heresy where that's the whole point.
>>98280102ADB is a faggot and no one cares what he thinks
>>98280119You're right I was hedging my bets like a coward when I said world eaters, allow me to rephraseThe 12th edition launch box will be space marines vs thousand sons
>>98280051Realistically they're going to split it up over two are three editions just like they did for the Eldar Aspects. Five or six kits an edition plus a few kill teams is much more reasonable than replacing 20 kits at once.
>>98280070Guns can glow though?
>>98279988Use your imagination >Inquisitor flies over on Navis/RT ship with his entourage, takes control of ship and crew. Total number of crew of a single ship is limited and not all Navis ships are present >Inquisitor takes control of Arbites station with his entourage. Lex is spread across many planets and their forces aren't proper military so easier to control>Inquisitor requires the services of a single Assassin who can either be press ganged by his superior numbers or favours called in with the Officio Versus>Trying to take control of a literal Astartes army of superhumans against their will who are all right there present as a Chapter
>>98280123less of a faggot than abnett at least
>>98280129That one is actually possible but I still think it's a slim chance. Most likely it's Dark Eldar, unless we see them get a big update before that. Second most likely is the launch of Dark Mechanicum. Third most likely would be Traitor Guard or Lost and the Damned or whatever GW ends up calling them.
>"interactive" battle map for a global campaign >the Defenders will yield ground whether they win or loseLame
>>98280013Their goals often overlap but Inquisition only have nominal control where approved by the Ecclesiarchy or if they can bully them into itSimilar to how Techmarines supposedly have dual loyalty to Mars and their chapter, but their chapter loyalty usually comes first
neutral-marines will be ammenable to reasonable requests, for more that inq better have some dirt either on them or on the target to warrant bigger response
>>98280099>box set contains tzaangors with boltguns, and big shoulderpadsfinally…
>Imperial Marines get their second bikes refresh>meanwhile CSM bikers are still on their kit from 2nd edition
There are guard players so cucked that are genuinely happy that Primaris marines are saving their city in the big event.
>>98280144The barrels aren't exposed on this model unfortunately, guess i could just have a glow effect coming through the vents instead
>>98280170No one is saying this
>Marines bow to Custards (it's MA'AM)Lmao, nulore is so fucking lame. Everybody knows Marines can do whatever they want as long as they have big enough guns
>>98280145That's not imagination, that's blatant lore rape or ignorance of how every action of that kind would have drastic ramifications.They are all connected to extremely powerful organisations or families deeply entrenched in the imperial hierarchy, when inquisitors get support from them it's not because they "press gang" them, it's because they request help and are granted help, usually in exchange of some other favour.
>>98280170Primaris players are paying for my Hippos, Centaurs and Krieg plastic refresh
>>98280166just glue some spikes onto the imperial bikers
>>98280170reminder: imperial guard fans are deeply submissive to strong male authority figures.
>>98280166>Marines getting new Landspeeders and Outriders>Orks getting new Wartrakk and Bikers>Eldar getting Exodite Dragon KnightsThis is clearly the fast attack edition, new CSM bikers soon trust the plan.
>>98280144I don’t know anything about guns so I don’t know whether that’s true or not, I’m just saying that it being wielded by a big green alien doesn’t necessarily change the basic functions of the gun
>>98280177NTA but you're retarded. Naval men-at-arms are press-ganged low-life thugs to begin with, not people connected to noble houses. The ships captain might have such a pedigree, but not his thousands of retards in diving helmets with shotguns that the Inquisitor can borrow a few squads from.Your entire post seems to give off a complete ignorance of the level of authority an Inquisitor wields. If they flash the rosette you fucking do what they say or very bad things happen to you. They aren't on the level of bargaining for favors that other organizations are.The ONLY people to have ever said 'fuck off' to Inquisitors and gotten away with it are First Founding Space Marine Chapters. Even other Space Marine Chapters get raped to death by the Inquisition if they fuck around too much (Celestial Lions).
>>98280074We'll see in like a year who the "early codexes" of 11th are because they won't pick a back-half army to also be in the starter box of 12th. So depending on if WE/TS get early rollout one might be more likely than the other.
>>98280155Dark eldar I think are too niche to warrant being in a launch box, but fortunately I think they'll get some new stuff much sooner than that. Dark mech/traitor guard/lost & the damned maybe. But my bets are still on thousand sons.
>>98280186We also know from rumors that Dark Eldar are getting a bunch of new flying boats this edition too. So the pattern holds.
>>98280119WE are missing a ton of models
>>98280166>>98280183>>98280186My concern is that the monkey's paw will curl and instead of modernized biker dudes that look like someone from Full Throttle crashed into a mall ninja store, we get some daemon engine redesign that's just a blob of bullshit.
>>98279953Any gun can glow if you put enough rounds through it fast enough, which coincidentally is how the orks use them. The only way to avoid this is to have assfuckloads of active cooling when you could just... not shoot 1000 rounds in 60 seconds?The main problem with the Dakkarig having glowing barrels is that you can hardly see the barrels themselves, the whole thing is covered in a barrel shroud that will heat up way later than the barrels themselves (this is part of the point of a barrel shroud, to put some room between the hot barrels and the terrain/hand they're resting on).>>98280186Are we getting the SoB cavalry from the last thread?
>>98280209You'll get a named Living Saint from the Order of Our Martyred Lady riding a horse that they took from the Bretonnia range
>>98280175The cuntstodes in the animation postured as being in charge and giving orders, but didn't actually have the authority to command marines or enforce the order.The chapter master gave up on his oath on the planet's defence because he chose to listen to reason instead of sticking to senseless duty.In an ideal follow-up of the animation we would be seeing the chapter receiving flak from imperial authorities and bureaucracy for abandoning their planet, because that would come to them regardless of the word of the custodians, who have no real administrative powers. The grimdark twist would be them getting pushed to go renegade, but that's too predictable, so a suicidal crusade into the tyranid swarm would be a more fitting end.
>>98280173I have guard players telling me that they’d rather let space marines take the spotlight than lose city. Guard players got to be the most cucked fanbase in this entire game.
RAVENWING REFRESH WHEN
>>98280225anon and all the guard players he speaks to
>>98280195>Naval men-at-armsare property of the navy, who is the most powerful branch of the imperial military.inquisitors cannot just waltz anywhere and amass armies with the flick of a wrist, a lot of imperial infrastructure, including other inquisitors, exist to stop someone from being able to centralise power like that
Hmmm tonight I will play warhammer forty thousand
>>98280225I really hope armageddon falls completely, it's had enough wars, it's expended all possible narratives and is only retreading on the same shit.do they want to keep yarrick alive? fuck it, alright do they want to keep the steel legion a thing? cadia fell and cadians are still up, so clearly nobody caresbut the planet really needs to fucking fall to the orks for good and turned into the attack planet, it's the only thing that makes sense
>>98280233Are you a guard player anon? Are you happy that marines are winning while your faction is being used to prop them up? Be honest?
>>98280198I don't think traitor guard/lost and damned has a big enough fanbase to hack it out in a starter box either. Dark Mech is a possibility but I think that's more likely to be the "new army" of 11th which is still unaccounted for. Thousand Sons seems the most likely candidate to me, if only to cash in on the Space Marine popularity.
>*solos your nid army*nothing personnel, kid...
>>98280252Traitor Guard are Kill Team slopDark Mech is IW cultist equivalent
>>98280255Isn't this guy dogshit at killing anything that isn't T3 chaff?
The thought that GW will let Armageddon fall to the Orks is laughable.
>>98280255It's alright, he's cool in my book, he can get a pass.
>>98280217I would be okay with that
>>98280252>I don't think traitor guard/lost and damned has a big enough fanbaseIt's pretty big. I've seen more Traitor guard players than GSC players tbf
>>98280264God forbid anything interesting happen in the lore.
>>98280279Well, GSC is pretty much the rarest faction to actually see played on tabletop so that's not saying much.
>Imperium has a million worlds>every narrative event and critical battle takes place in the same 10 systems
>>98280245>armageddon falls>orks get an official homebase, and in the segmentum solar no less>fenris and elysia cut off from terra>sol system is now capable of being actively under siege>guilliman has to weigh up whether he wants to abandon his 500 worlds project, or go to help retake armageddon/save terra>other factions are able to take advantage of the disorder and now raid even more inside the segmentum, and some even sneak past the orks in order to raid the sol systemwould be too kino, which is why the most orks are allowed to do is take over a hive city in it.
>>98280255Only Phoenix Lord who's apparently an awful teacher, because Dark Reapers don't fight anything like him.
>>98280322Remember a few years ago how there was a massive tyranid invasion (dwarfing the size of every previous one) that was attacking segmentum solar and was on their way to terra?
>Gallows SpaceportSo we're getting a prepainted skyshield landing pad?
>>98280336no
>>98279748>>98279782My hopes for the new intercessors is dying fast. At that point I'll just get the SW grey hunters/blood claws and shave the unwanted bits.
>>98280345nyoro~n
>>98279785It's rigged
>>98280366>My hopes for the new intercessors is dying fast.You've already seen all the new Intercessors, they're not getting a new kit.
>>98280323he's just built different.
>>9828040415 is clearly not enough. the people love primaris intercessors.
>>98279863The actual talent have left or are few and far between.>exoditesJes retired last year, for example. He sketches, he "mentors" (see: slight correction of retardation) and that's kinda it.If you listen to interview of designers it's painfully obvious they are retarded and running on the fumes from the first 30 years of IP.How is it obvious? Because the interviews all boil down to>we looked at the old stuff, lots of material (covert advertisement)>It was hard (what was? Either they don't tell or it's just "how to make it look good?")>Omg the thing we're making is so cool (and here is how we are attached to it)Rant aside: GW is both out of talent and concerned with investor/shareholder retardation, rather than making a fun, quality product.
>>98280404They are getting a new kit, the orks got beakies on their boss poles and bases. It's just gonna be ass. My prediction is that it's gonna try and nostalgiawank the tactical squad content.
>>98280427>concerned with investor/shareholder retardation, rather than making a fun, quality product.been that way since 94, retard
>>98280427For all its faults I do like that the sculptors are willing to take more risks with AoS. You get weird shit like art deco chaos dwarfs, but also interesting things like ogres pulling from bronze age chinese gluttony demon motifs. 40k, or more specifically marines, are very boxes in at the moment.
>>98280439>They are getting a new kitThey're not.> the orks got beakies on their boss poles and bases.They're already in a few kits, but they're not redoing the basic intercessor kit.
>>98280452>always has beenWhy do you lie?Why do you conflate being publicly traded with priorities?Why do you pretend greed isn't on a spectrum?Why do you confabulate that GW was always as concerned with pleasing its shareholders as it was in 1994 when it went through several CEOs since then?Are you retarded? Yes, you are.
>>98280468While I don't like AoS and I think it fails as a wargame, I think it's great for painters and people who like generic fantasy.>>98280470I'm tempted to screenshot this for the inevitable btfo but that's giving way too much of a fuck about your stupidity.
>>98280472Publicly traded companies are legally required to maximize profits.It's always been the case, you were just too young to realize it.Though you not understanding this makes me think you weren't born before 2000
>>98280484>I'm tempted to screenshot this for the inevitable btfo but that's giving way too much of a fuck about your stupidity.Where's the stupidity? GW has no incentive to replace the intercessor kit.
>>98280511This has nothing to do with product quality, talents or articulating products around trends.Again, you are retarded, feel free to triple down.
>>98280513>GW has no incentive to make a new marine kit>not stupid!
>>98280468>>98279863when the designers get creative we get sea elfs on flying blind sharks and top hat mustachio gun steam dwarfs
>>98280540Why don't they just remake the same kit every year then?
>>98280472I know its the meme, but not everyone is going to buy into your cutoff point for when warhammer started to suck. It is always going to become "Warhammer was never good". There is no edition, no time period, no permutation of the game where everyone will agree "this was the last edition", someone will always one up you
>>98280566anyone who says 7th is wrong thoughbeit
>>98280550What the fuck is the point you're trying to make here? That since marines sell they should remake the same marine kit every year?GW is selling 10 different space marine captains, is that what you're trying to say they should do?
>>98280579>thoughbeit
>>98280583>What the fuck is the point you're trying to make here?Are you slow? The point is that there's no point in making a new Intercessor kit.
>>98280583They should be selling 20
>>98280566I don't care as to when it started sucking, what matters is why it sucks now.If I had to point to a when I'd say early/mid 2010s is where it started getting retardedLook at the releases for 2012-2015, 40k & WHFB included and all the shit we complain about today, like tactical rocks on every characters and centerpiece models is right there. But that's irrelevant to the conversation.
>>98279748>n!ggers white scarsFUCK YOU GAY WOKESHOP
>>98280591>there's no point in selling a new intercessor kitYou don't see a point in selling a new intercessor kit. Unfortunately for you GW does.
>>98280599I don't think most of the complaints made here are valid; it's all bitching from people who don't participate in the franchise. Send me back to 2012 and I'll be the first one on the board bitching about how 4th edition was better
I love primaris XD
>>98280591the current intercessor kit wastes a ton of sprue space on options no one ever used, like the auto and stalker boltrifle assemblies, this space could contain the sergeant options we got in the gen 1 primaris upgrade sprues like handflamers, thunderhammers, etc
>>98279748I thought the White Scars are Mongols?
>>98280621>I don't think most of the complaints made here are valid; it's all bitching from people who don't participate in the franchise.Okay retard
>>98280615They don't. You just think they do because there's new Intercessor models in Armageddon. There used to be new tactical mariner in every starter box to
>>98280621The less thinking you do the better for the rest of us. Someone having an opinion that doesn't align with your own doesn't mean they don't "participate in the franchise". What a gutless worm you must be to think the only people who valid opinions are the ones who lap up everything GW does. Scum.
>>98280632Reminder that subfactions are (for the most part) wider archetypes. Ultramarines for instance aren't space romans, they are of a wider antiquity archetype.
>>98280636I won't even remember this when the new kit is announced, just one more clueless retard. No more replies.
>>98279748am i missing something? what's different between these ones and the current ones? different poses?
>>98280644Doesn't that mean Dark Angels and Black Templar overlap in archetypes then?since they are both Western European Knights
>>98280644There's literally a dev interview on Warhammer+ where he calls them space romans lmao
>>98280649Nah, I can tell you're going to sit on this and seethe and seethe and seethe. You have that pathetic sort of aura.
>>98280653Current kit is just a starter set snap-fit with no options.
>>98279748>>98280608Why must we be like this?
>>98280653The current ones are true monopose + push fit kits, these new ones are multipart with different pose options. Of course the current kit is very easy to kitbash wish head and arm swaps, but this makes it official.
>>98280660I'm not even sure BTs are of the knight archetype, not all crusaders were knights.And no, that's not what I meant by broader archetype, I didn't say to find the broadest archetype possible, I mentioned the logic of the people behind these subfactions. Go figure out the actual archetype.>>98280661And there's literally an interview in a white dwarf decades ago where Jes Goodwin talks about his process with John Blanche and how people flanderize/simplify chapters.Yes, I am fully aware that modern GW staff are clueless as to the history and development of the very fictional universe they are working on. They made it painfully clear in the painting steel legion video or when they made the HH saturnine armour based on what many fans decided saturnine looked like. They are as shallow as their general fanbase, I know, thank you.
I wish I played an army that got frequent refreshes like marines
>>98280699No, you really don't.
>>98279863why do you keep hating on centurions, a unit from 2011?
>>98279826>>98279785It's railroaded to an imperial loss because grimdark. Like how chaos lost storm of chaos but they said actually chaos won.
was there a way to get better BS or rerollable hits on a tyrannofex in 7th
>>98280632>>98280644>>98280676James produces kits like this for meme representation and rage baiting. It's just the same as the Desolation Squad. Designated shit posting release as a blow off valve for the broader Edition launch. The meme iShowSpeed face is for hello fellow kids point and to drive home the IPs interaction with a very online influencer sphere.
>>98280699I think it's a mixed bag. It sounds weird to say Space Marines players suffer at all but in many ways they get fucked over by GW even more often than the smaller niche factions.
>>98280608Maybe it's Fenrisian? There was a snippet about WS recruiting from Fenris during the Heresy, which pissed off Russ.
Did the new overhang rules from end of 10th make it to 11th somewhere? The only instance of the word overhang in the core rules or event pack is for landing on terrain specifically for "fits sits". Nothing about board edge.
>>98280712why should time change people's opinions?
>all of these new ork models with bannersReeee stop gw i can't freehand for SHIT
>>98280747LEARN, NIGGA, LEARN
>>98280747Luckily, neither can Orks.
>>98280734Yes, in moving units. It was simplified to be less verbose/explicit case. Now large models with a base just care about the base as a standard.
>>98280747Just draw swastikas since it means orky
>>98280747learn sensei
>>98280747Print out existing templates and watercolor them
>>98280747transerfer sheets
>>98280548Both were author driven passion projects with Deepkin guy trying to make them real for 20 years and KO being pitched by Blaneche after he got a sudden stroke of inspiration.That's how sovl works
>>98280747just shove decals all over the model, dummy.
>>98280808bro may I introduce you to H2O?
>>98280763>drawWhy bother when there's so many decal sheets to choose from?
>>98280172The cheese grader-looking bit is a barrel shroud, basically just a perforated metal jacket to prevent the user from touching the hot barrel. If you want to make a glowing effect coming from the holes, it would make sense from a "realistic" gun perspective. It is not uncommon of for machine guns to be fired in combat until the barrels are visibly glowing, I'm sure Orks do it all the time with their big shootas.
>>98280827painting is easier and more fun than d*cals
>>98280724Shoot your target with an Exocrine first.
>>98280548sea elfs are cool though, but they should have gone ith shit like crustacean cavalry or giant turtle ballistae instead of flying dolphins.
>>98279748>updating fucking Outriders>not fixing that absurdly low suspension kys
>>98279748they look ... stiff
>>98279748Seems they are preparing for the inevitable Ravenwing update. New Outrider kit with a partial upgrade sprue for Bikers and Black Knights. RIP.
>>98280846am I missing something?symbiotic targeting only affects themselves
>>98280762I'm not reading a rulebook written like this. I'm not playing 11th. This is horseshit for fags.I know we have this discussion every few weeks but what is the best older edition to convince all the boys to play?
>>98280747isn't the banner art part of the sprue?
>>98280621>I don't think most of the complaints made here are valid; it's all bitching from people who don't participate in the franchise.When is this meme going to die? Are you all really stupid enough to believe that people who don't even play 40k, don't own any models at all, come here just to waste their time bitching about something that doesn't affect them? Or are you just a disingenuous twat looking for an excuse to disregard the opinions of people who don't agree with you?Apart from the occasional troll raid from some other general, which are extremely easy to spot - and no (You) can't fucking spot them apparently since you accuse everyone of being that - no one is getting mad about a game they don't fucking play to begin with. No one comes in here to talk about how the new models suck when they don't buy 40k models. People who get pissed enough to voice their opinions are the ones who wanted something good and were let down and disappointed.
>>98280929I agree with the general notion, but there are several proonters, mostly from eastern europe, who come here just to shit on new things
>>98280335That's still happening. People think if GW isn't releasing new lore on an event like that every week that it's forgotten because they're newfags who weren't around to watch the lore slowly progress over decades. There is massive real-world time lag between events in 40k continuing that only last a few weeks in universe. The entire 3rd Tyrannic War was like one year long but it took around 20 years for all that lore to come out. The 4th Tyrannic War just fucking started.
>>98280946I believe you, but I doubt they shift the general tide of opinion much. When GW actually does good it usually gets a lot of excited responses with just one or two naysayers, when they do shit it's overwhelmingly negative ones, and it's nearly always been like this.
>>98280950This is the exact reason I don’t want Marines to win death mire. I don’t want to spend another twenty years of lore on Armageddon about the brave space marines nobly defending some shit hole no one cares about.
>normally paint my ork clothes all blackTrying for some variety, what colour pants would go well with black? I plan on painting all of the shirts black
>hey lets play 11th>30 possessed with huron, abbadon, 10 termis with a leader, something else and defilers>alright>opponnet free rapid ingress, free overwatch, free reactive move, reactive move triggers movement mortals, slaps me with -3 to charge so two auto charges I had are now 10" charges>land both 10" charges>oh it was actually 10.1 after the fact so it was actually 11 for both>ask him how 6" move + 2.1" engagement makes it a 10 anyway if I move in a linear way, it would be a 9>yeah man youre just dumb and you should quit 40kcompfags are fucking insufferable man
>>98280973I paint my shirts black or grey and then paint the pants brown or red if they are snazzy.
>>98280973Grey, brown, a de-saturated blue.
>>98280973The good news is that anything goes with black. But I say Reds and Yellows complement well in 40k, and you could freehand some white patterns like dags and checks for more variations. I paint my CSM Black Legion but I take inspiration from 2e era paint schemes.
So how do you play anyways?
>>98280975Nice blog bro where can I subscribe?
>>98281001Retarded tourist, nice blog is how you respond to off-topic, not talking about the fucking game. I'm not even that anon.
>>98280984>>98280988>>98280991Thanks anons ill try out a few different colours so they arent all the same
>>98280950>*resolves your conflict in a single paragraph of a white dwarf that 30 people read*the end state of all xenos plotlines
>>98281006You're about as mad as he is
Reminder that we wanted dino exodites to show how ancient they are and not furry they are>>98280975>CSM list>no CSMwut
>>98280889I'ma be honest, I missed the 7th bit. Only thing I can think of is if there any way to ally in a unit with access to the Divination discipline but I don't think any of the Genestealer Cults stuff had access to that.
>>98281012Octarius War got resolved in a two book set of campaign books actually, it was pretty legit.
>>98280975>compfags are fucking insufferable manBut this is who GW wants as a customer. They consume no matter what.No matter how bad a mini looks.No matter how stupid the lore is.No matter how many girlboss protagonists are pushed in the stories.They will always outconsume you, and GW loves them for it.
>>98281028Is the solution to kill all of these people with hammers?
>>98281018>CSM list>no CSMAn old tradition
How do we excise the WAACfag cancer from the 40k community?
>>98281066Play with your friends instead of meta chasing tourneyfags
>Ork Army rule gets rewritten in the codex>Space Marine Army rule rumored to be changing to Gladius Combat Doctrines and losing OathDo you think every faction is getting a slight rewrite to their army rule this edition?
>>98281078They usually do, how often do new codexes come out that don't change the core army rules?
>>98281001>No! stop talking about 40k in the 40k general!Jesus
>>98281023nids were, at best, allies of convenience with GSC so you wouldn't even be able to cast powers across the two armiesoh well, I'll just suffer hitting on 4s
This is on a discussion on if abilities that let you use "free grenade/tank shock" are allowed because its called "explosives/crushing impact" btw
>>98281100These people are always massive faggots
>>98280901This is the cleanest rules layout they've ever done. If you can't handle this, you can't handle older editions.
>>98280724>Tyranids in 7thYou're just shit out of luck dude, Cruddace hated them and fucked them hard during that era. The only solace for Tyranid players in 7th was to just jump ship completely over to Genestealer Cults when they came out.
>>98281106Buddy no it's the fucking opposite. I've read the older editions and they were a joy. Very simply worded. I picked up how to play 3rd when I was less than 10 years old and only had to be slightly corrected on one or two little things by the older guys when I played with them.This is a fucking painful slog to read. This is fucking garbage.
>>98281066make all scenarios heavily asymmetrical
>>98281117That is... a surprisingly smart, succinct, and kino solution. I didn't expect to get a real answer to that question.
>>98280762>mogs your autistic, unnatural programmer writing for soulless rules-lawyering compfags
>>98281116>Anon discovers academia and legislature vs young adult fiction
>>98281149Nice rule syntax you've got there, would be a shame if some WAACfags were to abuse it in any of the ways listed in the 11th version
>>98281149
>>98281150Bad analogy. More like AI slop computer code vs skillfully written but elegantly simple prose by distinguished gentlemen.
>>98281164Yeah the solution is you just don't play with those faggots, the fact that it filters them by making them expose themselves through trying to game it is a benefit.
>>98281168AI slop is the 30k BRB. 11th is written like legislature and papers. And by written like, I mean straight up exact format that's been in use since before 40k existed.
>>98281185That's cool man, I'm sure lots of people really want to read a rulebook that is like a fucking government legislature document in order to figure out how to play a fun wargame about space knights killing fungus aliens with chainsaw swords.
>>98281195OPR is right there, Anon. Sounds more your speed.
>>98281125You don't want to hear my other suggestions for the game
>>98281149It's legal do move my enemies dudes?
>>98281200OPR is fucking trash, my speed is literally right above you in written example, third edition main rulebook. Somehow it got the job done despite not being written as if it was a fucking tax document to tardwrangle cheating faggots.
>>98281206See >>98281177Now you get no games for being a jewish homosexual.
>>98277500No im the skinny with glasses type of nerd.
>>98281216Those still exist?
>>98281100This nigga seems broken but I get this nigga he aight they say a bitch can turn 100 tricks then she gone sheont care no more she a broken bitch same with 40k niggas
>>98281233
>>98280724Tyranids were basically unplayable outside of a few permutations of the same "spam flying hive tyrants" army lists.
>>98281233>>98281246
>>98280145>inquisitor takes control over RT shipunless he has evidence of serious charges against the RT he can leverage the only thing he's flying is out of the airlock
>>98280234It is specifically only other Inquisitors who have the authority to do that.
>>98281248>>98281107well I have my first game this weekend against blood angels (lamenters)it can't be that bad right?
>>98281281>3 stonecrushersThose were decent at least.Idk anon if your opponent is also playing a fun, fluffy list maybe it won't be too bad. Good luck!
>>98281281'ery noice
>>98281233kek
>>98281281>it can't be that bad right?Pray god that your opponent is a very chill guy that also know 7th edition very well and deliberately sandbags himself in order to give you a fair game.
>>98281281It absolutely can be that bad. However stonecrushers were actually fairly good. If you're going to find yourself playing 7th on a regular basis I genuinely recommend picking up 2 flying hive tyrants and finding a malanthrope somewhere. I'd also recommend a dimachaeron if you want list variation (proxy a norn assimilator), carnifexes with twin devourers also worked okay.Jesus just thinking about that caused me psychic damage.
>>98281295>>98281342he's one of my 30k buddies and is pretty fluff-minded worst case scenario I just get mauled by like 5 sanguinary guard
>>98281149>move the enemies units 6 inches back>select another enemies units 6 inches back>move the original another 6 inches back>move the second unit into dangerous terrainI see why grognards loved this edition
>>98281373Once again >>98281214System filtering shitters as intended
>>98281356I'm not really playing for power, I just want to use models that look cool for oncegoing for meta stuff like hive guard, dakkafexes and kraken genestealer spam was partially why I sold my first nid army in 8th since I thought the models looked retarded but they were too good, ruleswise, to not usebut I'll keep the advice in mind if 7th takes off again and I need to give the army more teeth
>>98281390>if 7th takes off againIt probably won't, but there's something else to look forward to down the line which I can't speak about just yet.
>>98281390You don't appreciate how bad tyranids are in 7th.
>>98281400we've already got 6 or so people working on midhammer armies (2 nids, 2 marines, csm, guard, and tau) >>98281403are you telling me that deep striking a bunch of zoanthropes in a tyrannocyte isn't going to pan out for me?
Reactive moves are possibly the gayest shit in the game, grey knights being maximum gay
>>98280264>The thought that GW will let Cadia fall to the Abaddon is laughable
>>98281028>They will always outconsume youon an individual level yes, but not on a macro level. There are far fewer compfags than normlfags. A company which things everything is fine when all they have left is competative players is just circling the drain. It's a deathspiral where your tournament attendence goes up and seems to suggest growth, but in reality you're players are just becoming increasingly condensed, shops are dropping support for your product, and tournaments are becoming the only way for the competative players still hanging on to play. You can see this by comparing the pokemon tcg and yugioh. Yugioh is propped up near exclusively by compfags right now and the company is becoming increasingly more desperate to draw in new fans or old nostalgic fans because the compfags are going to finally break and leave or die of diabetus eventually and there won't be anyone left. Meanwhile pokemon appeals to collectors and casual players and sees success on both fronts.As you said, competative players consume no matter what. They'll buy any product as soon as it's released. That means you don't need to appeal to them, you can actually work directly against their interests and wants. They'll bitch loudly about it sure, but they'll still consume product because it's necessary for competative play. Any company should treat competative players as if they don't exist and aim to please the casuals and/or collectors. Balance changes should be focused on making the game fun to play rather than fair to play, and prevent unfun strategies, rulesharking, and other such poor sportsmanship rather than forcing the community to self-police homebrew rules. Make being "that guy" as hard as possible within the game's ruleset.
>>98281460Orks are secondary antagonists. Armageddon is Angron's prize, not Ghaz's.
>>98281206You joke, but the reality is that the GW points are based on the GW abilities and the GW rules. They might not have done a great job balancing it but they did A job. If there's an ambiguous rule, and you and your table read it differently than GW meant it, that could have real balance implications.Units can't move through friendlies? Nerf for horde armies. Units can move through enemies? Buff for fast-movers. Units can move through any space regardless of physical size? Buff for large models. Maybe these are good ideas for balance, but if so it's pure coincidence. It's practically no different from adding house rules by throwing darts at a board.This is why clear rules are needed. Even if people aren't trying to be rules lawyer WAACfags, ambiguous rules mean that they have to play that role sometimes, and they can and will accidentally fuck something up because random nerds in a basement aren't game designers just because they're playing Spacewar 39,999. And since Warhammer is complicated, it needs a lot more than just a few precisely-worded rules.
>>98281461compfags buy way more than collectors. how many points of models do you think a casual player buys per year? 250?500?1000? compfags will buy multiple armies per year to follow the meta.
>>98281462What?Armaggeddon is literally the most important world on the galaxy for the orks. They've tried to conquer it for 10,000 years.Angron's is the actual tourist here, he's attracted to the bloodshed but he doesn't care about the planet unlike the orks.
>>98281476This is the unfortunate truth. Compfags have bough into the churn, while collectors pick and choose from an increasingly meager plate. Whales buy everything anyway, so they don't have to be specifically catered to.
>>98281461shut up miki
>>98281476if 10 people give you $20 dollars, and 100 people give you $4, which group earned you more money?
>>98280975>>yeah man youre just dumb and you should quit 40kBE METRY TO SOCIALIZE WITH FELLOW NERDSTHEY ACT LIKE ASSHOLES AND TELL ME TO FUCK OFFMANY SUCH CASES
>>98281462>Orks are secondary antagonists.right up until they suddenly aren't
>>98281476Every company with two brain cells in the management team knows that compfags aren't a playerbase, they're an emergent property. Popular games always have a competitive scene, even if it sucks for competitive play. Unpopular games never have a competitive scene, even if they're perfect for it. Every player starts as a casual, and a few of them become dedicated enough to become compfags, and nobody likes them after that happens, and that's why the health of the scene is more based on the masses of low-to-mid-investment casuals who draw in friends and strangers than it is on the opinions of five compfags who spend most of their time finding ways to Jew each other and everyone around them. We've seen this hundreds of times by now.
>>98281462Orks have been the primary antagonist of Space Marines for longer than Chaos Space Marines have existed
When did you start calling them compfags again?
>>98281524don't think so, bucko.They were first, but over time they've been pushed to the side for a lot longer than they were in the spotlight.
>>98281418>are you telling me that deep striking a bunch of zoanthropes in a tyrannocyte isn't going to pan out for me?It's not the worst possible idea. You just have to make sure they dont get blasted or charged off the board on the subsequent turn, but also have a good secondary target to go after.
>>98281462Just imagine>Imperium wins first week of Death Mire>Orks win second week>All of a sudden Chaos is here in Week 3 and they win the whole thing out of nowhere (thus showing the votes didn't matter)
>>98281478Weird, why's the first war for armageddon all about the world eaters thenAlmost like the orks stopped giving a fuck when they stopped calling it ullanor
>>98281524>Orks have been the primary antagonist of Space Marines for longer than Chaos Space Marines have existed
>>98281553>votesretard
>>98281517>the opinions of five compfags who spend most of their time finding ways to Jew each other and everyone around them.amigo, the quarterly balance updates are based on the tournament results of like a thousand people globally. and the only way to properly play the game is to use the app that is updated based on that data
NEWBREADWHEN?
>>98281478>>98281524I like orks :D as much as the next guy, but realistically, GW loves to shill CSM to the detriment of anything else, so having it be more fitting for orks to win armageddon is meaningless when GW has intentionally shoved chaos into where they don’t belong like in the pariah nexus.
>>98281578When you make it!
https://youtu.be/b-8kFvJDhLQ?si=yWbvzINPuAgBwpJW>I'm going to nasally breathe heavily whilst reading a wiki (someone elses work) but proudly proclaim it isnt ai and so generative or something
>>98279244what do you mean demoted? They are all freelance and almost all have always except for the ones who doubled as designers.
>>98281606you really felt the need to drag this old head who is getting sub 100 views on these videos?
>>98281606>less than two hundred subscribers>single digit viewsnigga is this you?
>>98281626It's an indian mad that this guy's making fun of AI
>>98280661Because nu-faggots writting this shit can just think in flanderized terms. There is no nuance. There is no creativity. >>98279748Moustache-man looks like he rejoined the astartes to pay alimony. He looks like he shows you pics of his children in the auspex. He looks like he drinks coors. He looks like he would not aprove his daughter dating the White Scar biker above.
>>98281576Yeah, casuals want the game to be balanced too, they just aren't obsessive about it like compfags are, and compfags are stress-testing the existing rules for free anyways. Doesn't mean that pandering to compfags is, or should be, what GW does.
>>98281426It's like one of the only good things about modern 40k
>>98281357>and is pretty fluff-mindedUnfortunately in 7th that's only half of the equation. The edition is so unbalanced that a fluff minded player making an armylist by only taking what seems cool Vs an opponent that does the exact same has a non ignorable chance of ending up in a complete curbstomp.The only way to have decent, relatively balanced games in 7th is either being very lucky in choices or being extremely knowledgeable of what things are broken and what are not and min max the balance by deliberately avoiding the strong things in a strong army and taking the most powerful things in a bad army.
>>98281476>compfags will buy multiple armies per year to follow the meta.A very large majority of those are from the secondary market however. I have friends that are deep in competitive AoS. You have armies that changed like ten owners in a decade.
>>98281655Tbh I don't think 7th was quite this grim excluding outliers like Craftworld Eldar, it was definitely imbalanced but the clearly OP things were kind of obvious. Yes Tyranids sucked shit and Marines could be made busted but the busted things about Marine sn were like spamming specific weapons (grav) and formations that gave you free shit or ridiculous buffs. I remember watching a battle report online of a fluffy Tyranid list (not flyrant spam) in 7th taking on Tau that was running a Stormsurge and shit and Tyranids won.
>>98281626>>98281634no youtube decided to reccomend it to me whilst looking up fantasy stuff, so not even the right warhammer
>>98281682>taking on Tau that was running a Stormsurge and shit and Tyranids won.I am not saying that wasn't impossible. I am saying that unless you knew what you were doing the chances of the game exploding were too goddamm high. Even shit like the Marine player taking a Librarian and rolling very well on the psychic tables (even excluding the truly busted things like invisibility) while the Tyranid player rolled very badly could shift the game tremendously.
please talk me out of getting a stompai do not play orksi do not intend to ever play orksi seriously doubt i'll ever get around to painting itbut it just looks so goofy i just want to have one sitting on my desk and accumulate dust
>>98281742just get someone to 3D print you one for cheap
>>98281758money's not a problem, it's just a completely idiotic and pointless purchase of something that is just going to sit there
>>98281766>something that is just going to sit therethat's 99% of the hobby
>>98281766Do you enjoy assembling and painting minis?
>>98281742I want to get that new old world chaos champion on dragon and I don't play Old World or own a warriors of chaos army.
>>98281766People buy stuff to sit on a desk and look pretty all the time.
>>98281742I know that feeling, the Stompa is so cool and the only Orks I have are from Black Reach.
>>98281742This is the entire appeal of the hobby anon. More so than actually playing is just having the fun models that look cool. I can’t tell you not to engage in what makes this hobby fun.
>>98281742I have 2 kill teams that are literally just shelf warmers because I don’t have the army they belong too.
>>98281742here's what you do: you get yourself that stompa and nothing else. No what if I expand by getting armageddon or any of that shit. A single stompa is a fun project and takes up little shelf space, don't make it complicated.
>>98279075>Rutrackeralright thanks but no thanks. that shit looks sketch as fuck
Is it just me or Games Workshop removed the combat patrol from their download page?
I'm still learning Kill Team and have no clue whatsoever how to use my tokens as:>My tokens say it's only usable within my territory and store owner who also doesn't know how says it's in the deployment zone
>>98281798this looks ugly as shit
>>98281864turn on your monitor
you should get a cog fort and convert it into a stompa
>>98281875>Support Age of LigmaHmmmmm. No!HAHAHAHA
>>98281875Its not even close to being big enough
>>98281856They moved them all to the app, exclusively. And then deleted a bunch of them for good measure. I hear some factions don't even have a legal combat patrol anymore.
>>98281861What token? Also it's usually written pretty clear if it's one or the other.
>>98281875not big enough + more expensive than a stompa + modern orks use scrap metal, not wood and stone + comes with worthless ‘umies horrible idea, kill yourself.
>>98281893The Goremonger tokens like Bloody Cadaver for example.
>>98281909Every token explain how it works.
>>98277493new>>98281982>>98281982
>>98281872Good comeback but he has a point
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>>98281066play with friends
>>98281403I played skyblight in 7th, it was decent until i came up against any other meta formationYou really don't want to play it though, you will never use those three tyranid fliers ever against, harpies and crones suck badly every since
