Morality Edition>Bans https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-may-18-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98258068>TQWhat card art do you wish was on a better card?
>tqGuidemother on Hushbringer
>HOPEJace fucking dies>FEARJace fucking dies, and the art and flavor text treats it like a tragedy
we need to bring back rampage but only for creatures bigger than 8/8.
>>98278863If you target a creature that already has rampage with one of the spells that gives trample, you're basically making a creature unblockable
So how do you build a basic 2 color manabase in Modern these days?
Highlight of my last tourney was Ruby Storm player almost killing himself failing 8 rolls out of 10
>>98278947good
>TQI wish Clyde Caldwell's art wasn't wasted. Meanwhile we have diverse womyn of color #3908409384. I wish they could have given us a sexy blonde instead. Even if her eyes were a little weird.
Is this really good, or just expensive because rare with no reprint ever?
>>98278818what time does the B&R go live
>>98279206Ehh, it's ok, I guess. Definitely mostly the fact it was a garbage rare only ever printed once. I perfect pic related in Torbran.
>>98279009depends on the deck but it usually goes:>8~11 fetches >2~3 basics>3~4 shocks>1~2 surveil>2~3 non-fetchable utility and then fill in whatever hole is left with what you want (fastlands aren't that bad for example)>>98279206It goes into a very specific deck that popped into existence some time after MH3 came out, so people who want to play it desperately need the playset>>98279208about 4 hours from now
>>98279280>a very specific deckThis?https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5736869#paper
>>98279092Vivien Reid is your favorite planeswalker.
>>98279333this onehttps://mtgtop8.com/event?e=87455&d=863704&f=MOnecrodominance, there's a bunch of ways you can build it, it can be more control focused, more burn focused or even combo
When is it time for a Top Gun UB set?>>98278818Is Benalish Hero worthy of Thor's hammer?
>>98279280>it usually goes:Are Verge lands not played?
>>98279379not usually, but like I said you can use whatever you want to fill in the gaps
>>98279355Worthy trivia: all creatures with "worthy" in their name are worthy of Thor's hammer.
if badgermole cub isn't banned from standard and pioneer i'm going to skin mark rosewater alive
>>98279456I think there's above 50% chance cub gets banned in standard but they really don't care about pioneer so you better start getting your skinning tools ready
>>98279456I would be so happy with a Cub ban in Pioneer, there's so many green decks I got priced out because of that stupid card
>>98279541i'm more pissed off about idiots vomiting out 5 manas worth of extra cards off of double cub, shit is aids
I cant wait for the salt today. Still monitoring the meta no changes but weve got our eye on badgermole and fantasticar. Kek. Pauper unban.
>>98279456This but also unban Walking Ballista and Felidar Guardian in pioneer
>>98279627>Walking Ballistathere's already two retarded coco decks in pioneer, we don't need one of the other five that have an infinite combo
>>98279456In before "We are watching Cub closely in Standard but with Marvel being newly available it is too soon to make any changes while the metagame settles".No need to thank me, Klomparens.
>>98279092This!!Sissy needs goon goon!
>>98279400>not usuallyWhy are they expensive then? Scalpers?
>Standard: No ChangesIt's so fucking over standardsisters
What? We have b&r?
>>98279862Its bad
>>98279849>>9827986233 minutes left
>>98278818>Morality Editionin this game you gotta be morally flexible
>>98279898What a fun card, first time I see it.
Friendly reminder the current state of the game is (You)r fault.
>>98279456Unban herYou know is fair nowadays
OP image is the average Eastern European couple
>>98279951jej
Unban him.
>>98279961Not ostensibly black enough by today's standards
>>98279951>meanwhile in Türkîÿè
Remember me, /mtg/?
>>98279847I don't play paper so I wouldn't be able to tell you, maybe it's because they see play in standard? I don't keep up with it as much as other formats, they see play in pioneer but I doubt that's a price factor
>>98280064Well shock lands are in standard too so I dunno
>>98280006I remember selling it to my LGS when the price spiked during early hollow one days.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-29-2026AIEEEEEEEEE MY CANDELABRA COIN!!!!!!!!
>>98280088LOL
>>98280088>Legacy>Candelabra of Tawnos is banned.>Pauper>Seeker of Skybreak is banned.>No changes to any other formatRIP this shit game
>>98280088>banning Seeker instead of the fucking dumbass bowThey have lost the plot.
>>98280088Imagine the banlist if they actually played the game.
>>98280088>Standard>No changesare these people retarded
>>98280088this announcement has financially ruined thousands of people (and that's a good thing)
Mmmm yes yummy i knew it thank you all for participating.
>>98280088>In previous banned and restricted announcements, we've discussed gameplay problems with Standard. Namely, that the format is too fast, and that too wide a swath of the format can end games too soon. These problems still exist, but they aren't insurmountable. Four-Color Control's rise shows that slower decks can still find success in Standard. While we are continuing to learn from Standard and getting better at designing to reduce these problems in the future, we don't believe that this Standard's gameplay problems are severe enough to warrant banning a card at this time.>Overall, Standard has improved from the state it was in after Pro Tour Secrets of Strixhaven. The metagame is more diverse and the gameplay more varied. We are taking no action at this time and will continue to watch the format as it changes throughout the rest of the year.so these retards just have shit taste and like having all their cards bounced in new extended. dumbfucks
>>98280088boringwhen's the edh b&r?
>>98280088This reads like it was AI generated. But even an AI wouldn't be this stupid. Right?Right?
>>98280202All those corps shamelessly using AI everywhere they can is honestly the lamest shit ever and I have never yelled "slop" and "saar" on here.
>>98280202I think they do
>>98280287sowing mycospawn was banned last year you stupid ai
>>98280088visuals for the bros
>>98280329>nice card game you got there it would be a shame if nothing happened to it. Lmao.
>>98280116>banning the card from the new setAnon they will always ban a card from an old set before banning a card from a new set.
>print trash UB card>proceed to ban unused UW card
>>98280390They also tend to ban enablers rather than payoffs
>>98280088>Competitive Brawl>Being as this format is brand new, we will not be making any additional changes at this time. We look forward to watching how players develop this competitive metagame over the coming months.Cocksuckers, it takes 10 minutes of actually P L A Y I N G the format to realize it's an absolute piece of shit, and the metagame is already almost completely solved: the majority of top decks all want to do the exact same thing with the exact same cards.I know it's my fault for expecting fucking Dave FinishesLast to play the fucking game beyond the Bronze 4 bracket, but how can you not see how absolutely sharted everything already is? There's a grand total of 1 (one) colour viable in the format, and if you don't build around it and/or against it you may as well be playing Mikado with glass shards down your urethra.inb4 wrong threadMy anger cannot be contained, I could go bitch over on /cm/ for all I care
>>98280116>>98280390seeker of skybreak was a ticking time bomb because of its ability to untap itself, it was doomed to break something eventually
This works great on Ruby Storm, in case someone was wondering.
>>98279456Oy vey goyim, why don’t you just use le heckarino “powerful white cards”? ;-)
It's starting to become so obvious that even the biggest wizard bootlicker start to notice it.
>>98280088The “no changes to Standard” will continue goyim. Shalom Oy vey
>>98280476What a phonky little guy
>>98280461>don't use "flourishing"Kek
>>98280116You have no idea how bad it really is. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_uuwIsGA9Mc&pp=ygUHbXRnIGJhbg%3D%3D
>>98280461i still don't know why wotc is insisting on keeping up this long standard cycleif standard's going to be broken, might as well make it rotate often so that people can enjoy as many different flavors of brokenness
What is going on this person head to allow this "No Changes" B&R announcements? Is him mad?
You goyim just aren’t using enough powerful white cards. Surely all the powerful white cards printed into standard for the past 8 years can fix this.
>>98280551mark hasn't had anything to do with bans in over a decade, he just design the sets
>>98280551Anon MaRo has nothing to do with B&R
>>98280088>In previous banned and restricted announcements, we've discussed gameplay problems with Standard. Namely, that the format is too fast, and that too wide a swath of the format can end games too soon. These problems still exist, but they aren't insurmountable. Four-Color Control's rise shows that slower decks can still find success in Standard. While we are continuing to learn from Standard and getting better at designing to reduce these problems in the future, we don't believe that this Standard's gameplay problems are severe enough to warrant banning a card at this time.this frustrates me way more than getting no bans, they're either clueless about the fact that 3 year standard + broken sets (because they need to sell) is always going to result in a fast, legacy-like format where games get decided by turn 3 or they're shamelessly lying about the fact they're trying to fix the problem
Pioneerbros... Not even an unban...
>>98280630They've never, ever, ever actually cared about whether the game is fun, healthy, or good. They only care about whether it makes people buy cards. Wanting the game to be fun and enjoyable is only ever something players wanted.
>>98280647If this is not fun and enjoyable why even engage with it? Are we Pokemon now?
>>98280658Why do you think EDH became so popular anon?
>>98280630i quite literally couldn't care less if the format is "diverse", these decks are aids and i want to play midrange in standard
>>98280422>ticking timebomb>card printed in 1997 was the problem due to its interaction with *reads notes* Hawkeye’s Bow
>>98280476We must secure an existence and the future of white
>>98279849I meant this as a joke holy fuck it's so unironically over for constructed magic it's not even funny
>>98280422Seeker / Freed from the Real have been legal forever and have multiple combos, they just require one more piece than Seeker + Bow. So, Bow is 100% what should have gone.
>>98280422Don't care, total ubslop death.
>>98280772I would say is not even a joke.Magic is COOKED beyond salvation
>>98280780being a 3 card combo makes all the difference and that's why freed from the real isn't banned (yet), i accept your concession
>>98280795>multiple 3 card combos with X are fine>we add a new Y card that makes a 2 card combo with X>ban X
>>98280757black lotus was printed in 1993 so anything that breaks it is clearly the fault of the newer card fr fr
>>98280795It’s not a good look to ban cards from 1997 because of some retarded marvel slop
>>98280780There probably is another combo piece in a future set mostly likely Star Trek so they started noun rather than ban 2 cards.
They banned seeker and not the bow to rotate the format literally no one is going to play the shit ass bow.
>>98280805>guys we should never ever make cards that like things that untap for draft purposes because there's this card from 1997 that we have to put on a pedestal for all timelmao
>>98280088I am happy about the bans to Brawl format. I like playing Brawl on Arena.Fuck extra-turns. Fuck blue.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0
>>98280824They can make it and then ban it in Pauper
>>98280851>hey let's ban every common card we ever print that likes untappers just for the sake of seeker of skybreakkekw
>>98280835Enjoy your mono green ramp format i guess
>>98280865Unironically how Pauper bans work (and Legacy...)
>>98280881>seeker of skybreak is totally the pauper mascot just like brainstorm is for legacy!lmao retard
I cant wait to see all the cool new pauper brews that include haykeyes bow. Bad game you fucking retards.
>>98280887Seeker is more of a magic card than Hawkeyes Bow will ever be and has been Pauper legal for longer than you’ve been alive. The problem (which only manifested when Bow was printed) is clearly the Bow. A ping-upon-being-tapped enchantment aura could be fine depending on the mana cost. Now your precious untap
>>98280932Just wait until I get my Blistersplit Gremlin, Hawkeyes Bow and Retraction Helix… Oh, and my zero cost artifact!
>>98280887Now your precious untap cards lost their mascot. Notice how Hangar Scrouger never broke Pauper.The gay little bow being a cheap equipment that pings was the problem for two weeks while the other card lasted 30 years without causing any
>>98280939hawkeye's bow is more of an IP than seeker will ever be, wotc could literally have a guy (or AI) paint a dude, call it "X, Son of Y" and you will lap it up all because it came from faggoty renton wa
>>98281009pauper could never have janky untappers be their mascot anyway, pauper is all about is doing tempo with tolarian terror as a real magic player should
Consider a white version of time walk that is only castable if you went second that game.
>>98281043What does it do if you didn't go second?
Can't believe sneaky snacker is on the cutting board for pauper because these fuckers can't stop printing more and better discard, draw 2 effects. Red and black having the best card draw is a travesty.
>>98281076I don't know it gains you 3 life or something? That's basically the same as time walk given your opponent is trying to beat you to death with a 3 power creature.
>>98281076Discards to Faithless Looting. Could have a cost increase if you’re gay about that sort of opportunity cost stuff.>>98281016Magic as an IP got to the point where you could reasonably get laid while still indulging it, the same will never be true for a Marvel tcg and for that reason I’m out
Is monored burn still a thing in Modern or has it been outclassed to fuck?
Is pretty clear they just don't care for this game anymore uh?
>>98281144Well the LLM they're using certainly can't and doesn't.
>>98280088>Reanimate>Not Atraxa>Fucking Candalabra>Not Fantasticar>No bans anywhere else
>>98280088>Howdy, gamers!
>>98280088>Standard right now is a format where many different decks can win on any given weekendThe last 64 Standard events have been won by either Izzet, Izzet+ or Landfall. There is one (1) exception where Dimir Excruciator won a single (w) event but other than that, 63/64 events were won by two decks.These people are literally just flatout lying to protect reprint equity and I'm pretty much done with it.
>Candelabra banned instead of FantasticarHeads must roll. Pulling this once with Reanimate was bad enough, but now it's an established business practice
>>98281043Even a white time walk wouldn’t stop nonwhite kikery in standard now. The only way now would be to print 3-for-1 flash exile removal stapled to a 2 mana creature that also prevents trample and negates all opponent ETB effects of any permanent while drawing 4 cards. And even if you restricted the casting cost to only basic plains, it would STILL be too fucking weak against nonwhite kikery in standard.
>>98281266Hasbro-WotC has always banned the oldest card to protect the newest card (YuGiOh mauneuver).
>>98281273Literally not even remotely true.
>>98280865How large do you think that list is? How many cards from 1993 to 2026 are commons that care about untapping your things repeatedly?
>>98281293why ban cards in the future when you can just ban skybreak and be done with it?believe it or not wotc will never create a creature that can untap itself ever again, they refuse to even put deathtouch and trample on a creature
So let me get this straight. Standard has two good decks and two deck meant to beat those two deck and nothing else so the format is healthy? Lmao.
>>98281358you're just mad you're limited to 4 decks and the standard rotation time is ass
>>98281358>So let me get this straight. Standard has two good decks and two deck meant to beat those two deck and nothing else so the format is healthy? Lmao.I used to think they were either lying or retarded, but after this trashfire I am convinced they are both.
fantasticar 100 years! *BUUUUUUUUURP
>>98281423>BRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPI LOVE MARVEL
>>98281343You didn't answer the question.I'll ask you another couple:How many cards do you predict will be printed at common the next, let's say 3 years, that will care about untapping multiple times? How many will be costed low enough that they would be a problem in tandem with Skybreak?
>>98281453Well the question that i've been telling you is that wotc made their decision so are you going to move on? No? Bwahahaha figures
I have an idea, bros.Let's not ban Fantasticar.
>>98281546fantastic idea anon
>>98281560Thank you, thank you!
>>98281367Im not mad im lmfao at the trash fire i quit playing when UB started getting pushed everywhere. Nigger.
>>98281546Genius!
>>98281546Im glad i bought 100 of them after the set release now its time to cash in YEEHAW
>>98281594standard has been a FIRE design trashfire long before UB buddy boy keep coping and seething lmao
The entirety of Vintage is now becoming just fantasticar decks what the fucking shit holy fuck
game dead yet?
>>98281657So it seems.
>>98281657Currently falling into the 6ft deep grave with this latest B&R.All that's left is to backfill it.
>>98280088>Brawl>Force of Will is banned.>Subtlety is banned.>Wash Away is banned.>Ugin's Labyrinth is banned.>Time Warp is banned.>Temporal Manipulation is banned.What?Wasn't Brawl lite commander, like 60 cards all standard legal?This game is so fucked lmao
>>98281560Are you stupid?
>>98281727Yes. Brawl, the throwaway shitter 60 card Commander, gets six bans.Standard though?Flourishing. Never been better!
haiiii rawrz xD curwently i haz 3 pauper deckz... UWr Glitterz (stwiiill waiting 4 da unban... pwease... im gonna cwy...) UR Delver/Terror Naya Sliverzgweat... now im emotionally attached 2 cardboard again... >_<;;soooo... howz da pauper scene in ur city?? iz it alive n kicking or did it get sent 2 da shadow realm??? x_xanwyyy... tell me what ppl be playing!! rawr xD
>>98280088>banning old iconic card (candle) instead of broken new faceroll card (planar nexus)>giving the excuse of "we're doing it this way so we can keep printing broken stuff without having to ban around candle">letting the stupid fucking car run rampart in vintage so bazaar is unplayableThese people need a bullet
>>98281727No, Brawl is edh lite with 100 cards singleton deck.
>>98281664FINALLY
>>98281727>Wasn't Brawl lite commander, like 60 cards all standard legal?yes, but then historic brawl (100 card 1v1 edh with arena's historic card pool and banlist) became very popular so they decided to change names, now historic brawl is just named brawl and what we used to call brawl is called standard brawl, none of the rules of either format has changed, just the nameit was very confusing for me at first, seems like it would've been easier to give historic brawl a brand new name like conquest or some shit (I know conquest is a fan format, I'm just using it as an example)
>>98281785they won't restrict workshop so just like TOR, they will let the marvel set run its course before restricting fantasticar
>>98281731no i'm fantastic
>you're never allowed to speak about design issues and problematic shit with the game itself>get swarmed and shut down with relentless insults if you do>no one goes near talking about it because it will upset the piggies>wrong cards get banned if there are any bans at all>games design flaws still keep being done because no one is allowed to say anything>"yoooo wtf why aren't they fixing anything?"fucking die and i hope all your cardboard becomes worthless overnight
>>98281985you've been allowed to speak since 2020it's been 6 years fag, it's either you're still playing regardless or you're complaining for the sake of it like a goddamn scorned woman
>>98281998kill yourself
>>98282009haha cry more your impotent tears make me happy
>>98281785You thought your legacy format couldnt be rotated? Welcome to the club pal! They did it to pauper again too.
>>98282018kill yourself, schizophrenic tranny?
>>98282018>haha cry more your impotent tears make me happyI find it fascinating, how retards always mistake just critique of something that is shit for "crying"Are they just too stupid to comprehend quality as a concept? So emotionally immature that they can't even visualize other people being able to handle their emotions? Both?It's a pitiful, pathetic existence either way. Sad.
>>98282030The trannies are in aetherdrift btw
>>98282038that anon doesn't even play the gameit's just the usual tourist trying to catch any post that can be twisted and then start spamming insults>it's a pathetic existenceit's even worse. This is literally the only thing these "people" do because they've been conditioned that everything is "cringe".They will eventually kill themselves with 30.
>>98282048very cool, /v/kuncheck out this meme tho
>>98282038>>98282051Reminder that neither of you like playing the game anymore because of other IPs and yet I still do wholeheartedly so by that logic i'm more of an mtg fan than you two ever were, because mtg is ultimately just a bunch of mechanics, just like how a baby is just a clump of cells
>>98282066>Reminder that neither of you like playing the game anymore because of other IPs and yet I still do wholeheartedly so by that logic i'm more of an mtg fan than you two ever were,To enjoy something's destruction is not to be an enemy of that thing, not a fan.>because mtg is ultimately just a bunch of mechanics, just like how a baby is just a clump of cellsThe rejection of the metaphysical is spiritual suicide.
>schizotranny tourist mad>starts copingdas crazy>inb4 who you talking to>inb4 give me the (you)ggtoo ez no rope up 98282066
>>98280812>We are designing more "when you untap/tap" do thing>Okay we should then ban the card that by itself generates an infinite tap/untap loop and likely also adjust the power level of that effect (and maybe ban the bow too in the future)>Trophyless, top8 less, winless, non-player illiterate goony loony troony 4channy: "I'M HAVING A CUKCY MELTY AND GOING INSANE!!!!"KEKYPOOOW.Post trophies.
>>98282085Intentionally designing effects that have cancerous interactions is an indication that your design is bad, not that previous design has to be ruined to shoehorn your shit ideas in.
Btw i've been playing since revised, and no UW fag has ever convinced me why i should defend the honor of the jacetice league and there are a lot like me that think the same, so enjoy complaining alongside tens (TENS!!) playing planar standard lmal
What the lack of bans does to motherfuckers.
Niss looks different.
>>98282095>Btw i've been playing since revised, and no UW fag has ever convinced me why i should defend the honor of...Refusal to be convinced of a good thing is you being retarded.
Atraxa looks the same.
>>98282089You literally cannot read.Post trophies.
>>98282089you should stop respecting these maggot's intelligence
>>98282105Why is the jacetice league and MoM peak writing again?
>uuuhm yeah guys we won't ban Vivi because its a new card and we just need to feel it out>uuuuhm yeah guys we won't ban Bow because look at this other cardhhmmmmhmmmmam i noticing a pattern here?
>>98282117I'm not, these are simple statements, requiring little thought for someone as intelligent as me. They certainly don't deserve more.
>>98282124>Why is the jacetice league and MoM peak writing again?The only reason you would cherry pick examples you know are terrible is if you already knew your position was indefensible.
>>98282111>post trophiesyou firstput your mouth where my dick is
>>98282143Oh will you look at that, no defense?Concession accepted, enjoy the UB kino
>>98281785>"we're doing it this way so we can keep printing broken stuff without having to ban around x"It's crazy that they just HAVE to print these cards that go fucking insane with the slightest support from old cards.>You don't understand we need these crazy cards constantly being printed for C*mmanderIf only commander sets were outside of eternal legality so you can print your stupid horseshit without having to ban every single old card that was fine before the designers started huffing glue. Not that it would solve all the nu-mtg design issues but it'd be a start
>argue me! hehe i didn't understand so you have no argument lol lmao got his ass enjoy UB lmao gottem again>mogging yourself this hardeven by trolling standards that's just... sad
>>98282176You not being able to infer the complete rejection of your position from my statement is you being low IQ and not my problem.
>>98282189Burden of proof is on you fag, if you cant be bothered then UW deserves to be treated as trash and mtg be the fortnite of card games
>>98282202>Burden of proof is on you fag,Lmfao look everyone the retard has Reddit atheist catch phrases!
>>98280088at this point I'm seriously considering switching to YGO, at least cards get banned over there
>>98282202wow we are so heckin trolled and mad!
>>98282202
>>98282218What?
>>98282246Benis xD
>chudsyay he said the epic word!you now know xhe doesn't play anything at all
>doesn't know the cardyou exposed yourxelf
>>98281849Mr Bombastic?
>>98281608I quit all the formats you stupid queer nobody said anything about standard but you retard.
>>98282306
>>98282312What does the Bombasticar do!?
>>98282111That isn't an excuse you 70 IQ retard, they can simply ban the bow and add "this effect triggers only once per turn" to the text of all future cards of similar nature.The other anon is right, this is shift design and utter incompetence.
>>98282318so you're here to complain forever about a game you don't play - because you sure are mad and aren't laughing now! - got it, enjoy!
>i use ai because artist!yay another epic ragebait!do it again!
not Magic The Gathering
retard went into a mtg thread, tried to outwit everyone but got outplayed on every single one of his fields insteadwoman site really not sending xheir best
>he got so ass-blasted he complained to the mod because he got trolled so hardConcession accepted for the 3rd time, enjoy being btfo, also dont forget to tell the janny to erase my post hahahhaha
QRD on going Rakdos in any format?
>>98280809Yes. Magic was originally designed around creatures being bad and noncreatures being powerful, and something like a turn 2 Shivan Dragon cast off your two basic mountains and black lotus being a flashy, powerful play. White Plume is not the standard that newly designed creatures should be held to.
>"i won"lmao
>>98282470>pioneerplay rakdos midrange>modernplay rakdos midrange>legacyplay rakdos midrange
>>98282504What's Modern Rakdos Midrange like?
>>98282415>woman site really not sending xheir best/mtg/ is filled with doctoral level giga-autists and entrenched gognards, there is genuinely no hope trying to rely on such stupid tactics here.
>>98282506Pile of goodstuff like most midrange
>>98282492>black lotus into channel fireball was broken, so clearly what had to be banned was fireball, it was the spell that killed you after all
>>98282492>>98282535ImagineIMAGINEI M A G I N EIf during the Companions era, they banned Black Lotus instead of Lurrus from Vintage.
>>98282542banning lurrus would've further humiliated maro, companion was his creation
>>98282506bolt, thoughtseize and push for interaction and then you just pick and choose cards to fill the decklist>ragavan, bowmasters, dauthi voidwalker>sheoldred, necrodominance, fable>seasoned pyro, kroxa, lotv >nethergoyf, fear of missing out, dragon's rage channeleryou can mix and match these however you want, you can even dip into other archtypes like reanimator or urza's saga
>>98282546>banning lurrus would've further humiliated maro, companion was his creationNewfag detected.
>>98282549yeah
>>98282550you think this is a response to be expected from a guy that "didn't" create companion, retard?https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/618014176715096064/would-you-think-companion-would-be-liked-better-if
>>98282566Lurrus was banned, anon.
>>98282575not in vintage lol, which was the whole point of the pic having sharazard and chaos orb
greatest selling set of all time btw
>>98282581>japan was getting mahvel for 50% off US prices already and still need to discount itooof
>>98282535This is how EDH "players" unironically think btw. They'll see someone with 20 creatures and 40 mana off a Sol Ring start then think Craterhoof was the problem.
>>98282579>not in vintage lolYes in Vintage, retard.
>>98282579anon why do you think someone went out of their way to make a "Banned in Vintage" meme welcoming Lurrus onto the Vintage banlist if Lurrus was never banned in Vintage?
Yeah marvel is sold out at my lgs but all the regulars have nice tits now and so do i
>>98282579>not in vintage lolanon...
>>98282613More like MANDELAnon.
They retconned the ban lurrus is actually trans now so it cost three mana first
>>98282626The only correct answer
>>98282597Well why do you think lurrus is legal in vintage now? Maro had a meltdown obv
>>98282646>Well why do you think lurrus is legal in vintage now?Because they are fucking retards. They unbanned it and it INSTANTLY ruined the format forever lmfao.At least, it ruined the format up until Fantasticar.
>>98282651>At least, it ruined the format up until Fantasticar."Lurrus was ruining the format up until Fantasticar"I hate this fucking game...
>>98282581Obligatory.
>>98282581That's Japan. Marvel did extremely well in Nebraska.
Unironically why did he need to be 1 mana cheaper?
>>98282753>That's Japan. Marvel did extremely well in Nebraska.Can confirm. Nebraskanon here. We had a parade to celebrate the release of Magic: The Gathering: Universes Beyond: Marvel: Super Heroes!You could buy collector booster packs there for only 119 dollars each, it was awesome.
>>98278818That's a handsome woman.
>>98282755so you can curve out with goyfs in commander
>>98282811This gos great on my goyf commander deck.
>>98282814I'm sure it does
>>98282816>There's a fucking Lhurgoyf legend... I was joking...
>>98282871I would make fun of you but you saw all the goyfs and the commander i mean what do i even say?
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>>98282871These are all from a precon that came out with Modern Horizons 3
>>98281133There's izzet burn/aggro splashing for cantrips and counterspells out of the board but pure burn has been dead for years.
>>98278828>HushbringerThis card is so rarely used in my store's meta, but when it does get brought out, it is frustrating as shit with some of the decks we like to run. Not a bad card, mind you. 7.5/10
Thread QuestionLow effort TQ, because every set is chock full of great art on unpayable / draft chaff garbage.
They pulled out Ron Spencer from retirement for these...
>>98283132>That>GreatIt's arguably the worst piece he has ever done.
>>98283132>>98283146No art ever looks good in the KTK border.It's crazy how cursed that border is.
>>98283146I think there's probably some digital coloration/filter they use as well because even reprint art looks worse on modern cards.
>>98283248>>98283259OLDGOODNEWBAD
>Check mtgtop8 for the fourth Monday in a row to see if anyone did anything interesting with Blech in standard>Happen to hover over Blex at some point while looking at a CEDH deck>Blex is apparently almost $15 and in the 99 of literally hundreds of Blech commander brews per day presumably because of Blech's heckin' wholesome lifegain commander strategyIt's genuinely starting to piss me off what WotC has done to Blex's legacy. At this point, Swarmweaver and Balemurk are gonna rotate in 7-8 months. I think I might just try one of those Virulent Emissary Blech decks and hope I do better than I did with my previous reanimator brews.
>>98281358>The pressures exerted on the format by the twin pillars of Izzet Prowess and Badgermole Cub haven't changed, but decks that can exist within those parameters have been discovered, tuned, and have cemented their place within the metagame. Four-Color Control, Mardu Discard, Azorius Momo, and Dimir Excruciator are the biggest names here6 decks, chud, with three of them being unplayable dogshit
>>98283329I was talking about card art not borders but yes, I agree that the Mirrodin border looks bad on everything other than 'futuristic' cards like Mirrodin and maybe Kaladesh.
>>98282755>your graveyardindescribably worse than the OG. barrowgoyf is the one that sees play
>>98280420WotC has no fucking idea what to do with EDH and Brawl as a whole. It gets even worse when you start looking at the Brawl weight spreadsheet and see shit like Doom Blade being considered the same strength as Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise.
>>98282585they recently increased prices for japan, its 20% only now
>>98283862EDH I don't care about, but I can understand their confusion: it's a weird format with multiplayer shenanigans and all that garbage, I wouldn't even know where to start.But Brawl is a specific and focused format, not that different from Pioneer or Modern except it has a much smaller pool since they've been lazy with anthologies: they've had years of data via the unranked queue and they've done a whole lot of "test events" to supposedly get some numbers on the format before it even came out... and they decided to do nothing. That's what irks me, it takes a grand total of 10 minutes playing the game to see there's clearly some outliers at all skill levels in the form of one colour dominating all other ones.I can almost excuse the spreadsheet incident since it's quite old and it was probably drafted up in a rush since they didn't expect people to actually care about balance in le ebin casual format; but people (me included) do care about balance in le ebin meme format because I think it genuinely has a lot of potential and doesn't feel as solved as other formats that have been around for ages.
What's the Magic equivalent?
>>98282871Now you have to build it.
>>98282755The point was killing existing staples to sell new packs
>>98281727Brawl was WotC's attempt at creating a version of EDH that they control completely. It failed. Now WotC controls the actual EDH, Brawl should erased as a format, there's no need for it.
>>98282897>token with mana valueWhat the hell?
>>98283146Guy at my last tourney thought Ron Spencer was the one that died, kek
Even Japan thinks the B&R is retarded
>>98284018You can't play edh on Arena
>>98284165Wow I've just checked and you're right, Japanese fans are vocal about the new B&R announcement and they are not happy. They’re discontented with the way WotC once again refused to touch the format and the whole ‘everything is fine, no changes’ philosophy. I guess it invalidates the shake‑up they’d held out for, after months of Izzet and Badgermole decks running the table. There’s even a post on twitter that’s garnered thousands of comments calling for actual bans to fix the format. That obviously won’t happen, but it just shows how unhappy they are.
>>98284247It couldn't be any clearer at this point - WotC would be happy if tournament formats just completely went away (and played Commander instead). Naturally, this isn't going to happen but boy would they love it. They 100% see the upkeep on all of these formats as a hassle. Pro level play has already been totally gutted.
>>98284430>replying to copypastaishygddt
>>98284018why would you ever want to play against 3 arena players at once. I always have five to fifteen minutes against them during best of three. Brawl is the as close to edh i would ever want to play against strangers
>>98281998and I will keep complaining until they fix it
>>98284150this has been a thing since bloomburrow. nothing new with token copies having cmc either
>>98284701>cmcmana value*
Are you excited for TACO TUESDAY?
She's an eldritch abomination, not your waifu.
>>98284999¿por qué no los dos?
>>98283967If one of the pros that got an invitational card turns out to be a pedo, will the printing with his face on it go up or down long term?
>>98285010
>>98284999>takes the form of an angel when trying to communicate>struggles but still does her bestEmmy is cute! Cute!
So constructed is dead, right? We all agree on that?How's sealed doing these days?
>>98280422Begone shill
Whats this Dimensional Fracture set about? Im not well versed in the lore
>>98285196Time Spiral 2.0, aka "planeswalker ruins everything once again." Jace is breaking reality because he thinks he can make a better one, with blackjack and a half-gorgon baby. Expect plot fuckery (which no one cares about even harder, because half the sets are UB anyway).
>>98285196Jace's snek waifu got hurt in the war against Phyrexia (she really should have been dead, but whatever) and lost her spark, so Jace, rather than handle it reasonably, decided to rewrite the whole multiverse and created an alternate one where, presumably, his waifu is intact.
>>98285205Any cards with cool designs or mechanics revealed or have they kept it under wraps? Thinking of buying my first irl cards when it drops since me and my friends have been playing with all these fucking crossover decks online I want some actual in universe new mtg things
>>98285196>Im not well versed in the lorewhere we are going we don't need lore
The only good thing that could possibly come out of reality fracture is Jace winning, removing phyrexians as a concept, and making the entire Urza, dominaria, Mirrodin, and phyrexian "blocks" completely noncanonNot because it would be good for the lore/game, but because it would be funny
>>98285219>Thinking of buying my first irl cardsDon't.Now that that's out of the way, consider sealed/drafting. You and your friends buy a box of cards, then make decks out of the packs and play against each other. Even if the set isn't fun/powerful when compared against others, you should in theory have a level playing field because (hopefully) the set is balanced against itself and you probably won't see a lot of overpowered cards at once due to randomization.Alternatively, wait until they reveal any pre-built decks, have each member of your group buy one, and play them against each other. Remember to rotate decks between players. You might find that a particular deck is a better fit for a player other than the one who bought it. Or you might find that one deck is OP and giving everyone a chance to play it will lead to less butthurt overall.>>98285241>it would be funnyIt might be their intent. Phyrexians have been "sanitized" in more recent sets, presumably because that makes them more marketable. But WOTC might see their "icky" kind of villainy as a barrier to mainstream appeal. It feels like WOTC is setting up a merge between UW and UB, and I can definitely see them discarding the part of UW to accomplish that.
>>98285273We have been doing sealed! The one dude with way more exp than all of us has been setting it up on tabletop sim. So far we've done a bunch of LOTR, Final Fantasy and Marvel which is why im getting a bit fatigued with all the crossover cards
>>98285168it's legend bloat all the way. worst it has been in a good while
>>98285333>Constructed dead>Sealed deadBleak
>>98285311Since your experienced guy is setting things up in TTS, consider asking him to "curate a block." Back in the old days, a year's expansions were 3 sets that shared plot/themes/mechanics. You don't get that these days, but you could mix, for example, original Eldraine with the more recent return set, and get a bigger card pool with more variety that's kind of still on theme. Might work for Strixhaven/Hexhaven too. Bit more of a stretch for Lorwyn.
>>98284999wrong
>>98284150Didn't they had it on Future Sight?
>>98284999she hurts me only because she doesn't understand She has done nothing wrong
>>98285241>implying wotc won't use their multiversal "THE MTG MULTIVERSE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME" event to return to the status quo by resurecting the phyrexians like every fucking hack comic writers they get their inspiration from.
>>98285196Jace thinks current mtg lore sucks ass so he tries to rewrite it, creating alternate versions of characters he knows
>>98285560Hey this time Bolas will be in a loving relationship with his brother.
>>98285560Their last "THE MAGIC MULTIVERSE WILLL NEVER BE THE SAME" (motm) resulted in literally nothing changing, all of the phyrexianized planeswalkers just getting better, and the conflict being introduced and resolved in one set, with the ending even being spoiled nearly a month before the set released
don't forget they tried to use cutting blocks as an excuse to print out shitty minisets that they thought would be so well received they printed an entire miniset for AC
>>98285650All UB trash should have been minisets (assuming ti has to be a thing)
>>98285196It’s fractured but whole
>>98285205It isn't even going to be Time Spiral & Knuckles because it is going to deal with the concept only on Strixhaven / Hexhaven. Jace's plan has clearly fucked up, people will run into mirror versions of themselves and at the end Bolas will be revealed to be the one who fucked up Jace's plan. We already know all of this.
I really, really, really like this art
are we projected to get more eldrazi any time soon? luv me some eldritch niggas
>>98285752>I really really really like the worst art faithless looting has ever gottenIt's okay anon we all have shit taste in some way
>>98285766Holy mother of based.
>>98285755I don't think so, they went all out on Eldrazi in MH3, there should not be another big Eldrazi push for a long time
>>98285678I like the idea of minisets (100-140 cards), it's a shame that without limited viability for prereleases there cannot be any success. They have to scrape the bottom of the barrel of ideas for 200+ card sets.
>>98285802Forgot text, bought 4 collector boosters, got some nice cards.
>>98285752I don't hate it.
*terminates you*
>>98285961Is the artist a... you know...?
>>98286000No, she's a woman (female).
>>98286019eheh bagina
How do you respond without sounding mad
>>98285972Pure kino
>>98286031if my opponent manages to resolve 6 mana worth of spells in legacy before I can do anything, he deserves to win because either he drew like a god or my deck is garbage
>>98285811>100 bucks for 50% absolutely hideous artworkit really baffles the scientists how this shit ever appealed to anyone
>>98286046To be fair Agent has flash so it could be brought in at the end of your turn, followed immediately after by the AriaMeans if you don't have removal for either (easily checkable with a Duress) you're just toast, no?
>>98286031
Did marvel flop?
>>98286039
>>98286074This art was so awkward-looking
>>98286073Probably not.
>>98286082>ArixmethesWhen I wanted to play this guy as a commander 5 years ago I was told he was garbo, why is it meta now?
>>98286055No, they can have plenty of things in hand or on the field to kill you with.
>>98286138>20 cards where the card types include “gamma”>43 cards where the card types include “myr”One more set.
>>98286039the newer arts just don't compare
>>98285608>nothing changingNot true. Instead of the Jacetice League planeshopping, we now have an expanded roster of legendaries who can show up wherever the fuck WOTC wants them to. No need to come up with original characters for any new/recurring planes, AND planeswalker fatigue is out of the way!>>98285751>We already know all of this.How? No one reads plot anyway, not even the summaries anon posts ITT.
>>98286194literally me
>>98286255post cmc
>>98286271You can't say that! It's MV now!
>>98286271bigot
Is this enough for Ruby Storm?
>>98286493No.
>>98286508Yeah that deck really vomits mana doesn't it? But surely after 10 spells it would slow it down?
>>98286493It slows them down, need either a second piece of hate or a fast clock. Benefit is it doubles as a sideboard option for titan and eldrazi/tron.
>>98286522>a second piece of hate or a fast clockLike what? Green has picrel, right? What about other colors?
>>98286532Depends on the deck, a second wetball is actually stifling. Weather the storm won’t actually do much if they’re popping off. What are you playing? What other decks are you worried about?
>>98286559>Weather the storm won’t actually do much if they’re popping offGrapeshot does 1 and Weather heals 3, isn't that a counter? Can they just cast 3 Grapeshot in a row?
>>98286584>Can they just cast 3 Grapeshot in a row?Ruby Storm doesn't even run it in the main but yes, they could cast it 8 times without blinking
>>98286816What is Ruby Storm's main wincon then
>>98286821FANTASTICAR!
>>98286856that's not legal in modern, dumbass
>>98286863Cope.
>>98286863we were talking about ruby storm, not modern, silly gooseworx
>>98286875NTA I was thinking of Modern Ruby Storm actually
>>98283114>pure burn has been dead for yearsBut what if it runs 4 Blood Moon and 4 Magus of the Moon? Wouldn't that be meta enough?
>>98286955>But what if it runs 4 Blood Moon and 4 Magus of the Moon?then you're not a burn deck because those cards don't help you kill your opponentyou can play burn but it's like a tier 3 deckhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7854303#paper
>>98287021CUTE deck
>Pioneer is the most played bo3 format on Arena
>>98287034>source: this was revealed to me in a dream
>>98287051https://youtu.be/ON1SbS24_Tw?si=0zptLh1WszQJ_A2k&t=2112It's not popular. But it's the only format played like Garfield intended. Everything else is played mostly in bo1.
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>>98282742Didnt they say avatar was the second best selling or something
Pitch another land supertype other than snow>>98287124They say a lot of things, anon
>>98287088The game could use more snow.
>the japanese B&R let slip that the car was initially going to be 4 mana then was changed to 3The joke writes itself
>>98287124>Didnt they say avatar was the second best selling or somethingWait, they lied?Wow, that's a first!
>>98287203Should have changed it to 2 so I could run it alongside Lurrus.
>>98287034>>98287067I refuse to believe more pioneer bo3 games are played than standard bo3there's like 10x as many people playing standard. even a small percentage of them playing bo3 would dwarf the people playing pioneer
>>98287277>I refuse to believe more pioneer bo3 games are played than standard bo3Turns out Standard being an insufferable fucking pile of refuse is having consequences.
>>98287277
Why did they make Fantasticar cost anything other than 0 or 1? It should have been searchable with Saga, this is a HUGE design mistake for Saga not to be able to find Fantasticar.
>>98287277>>98287288>People can't readlmfaoThis is saying that of all formats, Pioneer has the highest percentage of its games played in Bo3, NOT that Pioneer has the most Bo3 games played overall.
1cmc Fantasticar would have been ideal. That way it could be played with Lurrus and Saga, but still have a mana cost so it's balanced.
>>98287034>>98287067>>98287277I think it's because Bo3 Pioneer is the perfect little spot for people who play MTG in paper but also want to get some action online, it's the only format where:>You don't have to worry about card rotation>You don't have to worry about alchemy cards and digital rebalances>You don't have to worry about random reprints from bonus sheets that completely reshape the formatIt also doesn't help that Standard sucks major ass right now
>>98287638>>98287638>>98287638
>>98280835lol mad because bad. edh used to be the format to play all the big splashy cards you liked, now its the safe space tranny la la land participation trophy roleplay party game homosexual aids needle format.
>>98282320>ywn again play Enduring Ideal Form of the Dragon comboTake me BACK
>>98282527The only honest archetype
