Very stealthy Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98274144>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questions:1)Do you like the new hunter?2)Do you like the SoA warscroll selection for your armies?
Not all the SoA warscrolls are out stupid OP
Kurnothi Soon
When do you guys predict pre-orders for the army set will be revealed? Because my GW is having a Spearhead tournament next month to get people into playing AoS and I want Ogres to be my first AoS army.
>>98281896>TQ>Do you like the new hunter?I love them. I feel like the helmets could be more loose considering they're leater but who knows maybe they have plates in them. >Do you like the SoA warscroll selection for your armies?I guess I like screamers among the tzeentch demons, but I really wish Kairics got their profile to not be such a shadow of what they once were. I wish I could grab whoever designed them into just being fodder and violate their eyeballs. Thaumaturge was weird because I thought it was keepings its old soggy profile, but its 210 fucking points when it was 130-140 before. So they gotta be turning him into a fucking demon prince or something.
Can anyone supply a Helsmiths tome? I offer some Aelf bouncers in return
>>98281896'Ow'd you make a thread with no OP image?
>>98281896>TQ>1)Do you like the new hunter?seems cool>2)Do you like the SoA warscroll selection for your armies?>HashutAnnointed sentinels needed it day 1, lets fucking go>Seraphonpretty good all around, couldve used a new spell lore though>IronjawzCurrrently running a megaboss + 2 reinforced brutes list so alternatives might be good or bad for it, depending on the combo>NighthauntIt doesnt even matter, that army is dead(hah) until they realize how they fucked up and write a better one for 5th edition.
>Lord-Vigilant on Morrgryph 160 (-20)bruh
>>98281903Hence selection fren
>>98281925Next month as in july? Eh, I don't know, probably late august if I had to guess.
>>98282025>probably late august if I had to guessFuck
Would the Darkoath mounted Chieftain's torso fit on the infantry's legs or would I have to use a Savager lower body?
>>98281942I'm still holding out hope for a decent scan of the DoK tome.
>>98281633It's not necessarily grimdark but how about leaning into the Asian aspect of their design and painting their skin red or blue like they're yaoguai/oni
>skarbrand up 20 points
>>98281896>Ogres detached from the refresh, so solid to build around >BUT WE WON'T RELEASE THE RULES missed opportunity to hype mawtribes don't you think?
>>98282126>how to grimdark >how about not grimdark, but paint them like cartoon characters?
>>98282126>Asian aspectThey're Huns not Japanese
Kinda disappointed the tyrant doesn't have the mongol stache
>>98282167Oni are kinda present in both Chinese and Japanese myths.
>>98282167>hunsNot anymore, they're chinese now
>>98282174>Ogres have been successfully sinicizedGrim.
>>98282187CCP keeps winning
>>98282187The dragon emperor's plans are measures in centuries
>>98281999>Volturnos, High King of the Deep>THE leader of the Idoneth Deepkin>190(-20)What a fucking travesty this book has been.
>>98282174what you think of is just mongolstupid han pig
>>98282216Do mongols larp as shang or something
How low can you go? Nice to see he can take a Catapult now but at that rate throw some wolves in too
>>98282167They're all Oriental to me
>>98282356I've only seen asians care to separate themselves into categories like yellow, easy, south, and oriental.
>>98282255Maybe we will see some good scroll this week but how many good foot heroes, ruling out casters, are there?
>>98282399Unfortunately the battle profiles show which warscrolls are getting variants already and it's not the Loonboss
Will he find his way in?
>down again>still not worth the pointswe're gonna end up sub 100 pts by the end of the edition. i wonder if they've realized that as long as he's more expensive than 5 boingrots he just gets outcompeted by them since he deals like half the damage they do
Do we not have a rules mega or gofile anymore? I recently lost all my aos 4th stuff and wanted to replenish it
>Aqshy Frostlord and Huskard Everwinter? I hardly know her
>>98282427There hasn't been one since like halfway through 2nd edition
>>98282435TOW and 40k chuds unironically report it
>>98282431Aqshy has glaciers
>>98282408Right, I forgot. Well, we get other foot hero scrolls, let's hope for something good
>>98282427Poeple share gofiles with most of the new tomes in them itt. Just ask
>>98282420Probably not. Surprised the hunters sticking around too.
>>98282255we need 40-60 point heroes like 40k has desu, they're all overpriced.
>>98282255They should give you points for taking a hero
>>98282420Somewhere between "Probably" and "Yes and no"If they update maneaters? DefinitelyIf they save maneater update to EoE? No, but he'll pop back up as a maneater unit.
>>98282154>cartoonI think it'd look pretty good
>>98282215It really has sucked the wind out of my hopes for this edition so badly. I just can't believe I'm relegated to eel or shark spam for a third edition in a row.
>>98282792
>>98282529honestly I wish. So many of them just suck.
Has anyone got a gofile with the 4th ed tomes?? Lost my repository the other day and want to try and get them back
What’s the current rumor engine looking like?
>>98283143Crossbow got revealed today, but I think this is all there is.
>>98282123My photos weren't good enough?
>>98282847>Big fuck off pipe in his mouthHell yeah
>>98282792That works
I don't know why, but looking at the new Ogor miniatures, I get the feeling that the Beastclaw Raiders sub-faction will soon join the Bonesplitterz and Beasts of Chaos in the "Legends of the Past."
>>98282450And entire continents of ice and snow. Shame gaynigger wankershack can't be fucking bothered to expand beyond the initial slivers of land.
>>98283690>release new BCR models >"I think this confirms it's over for BCR!" The only real issue is that the Maulbeasts have been designed for cohesion with both rather than the BCR side exclusively. We may still see BCR centric mounts and I fully expect something like BCR mostly bring an AoR or battle formation as far as the Everwinter is concerned but they're alive and well.
>>98283690Why do people keep saying this, if anything it's the opposite. These guys are clearly bcr coded.
>>98283915It's just that Mournfang were dropped for a creature that is clearly not suited to environments, so that it is compatible with the new big monster mount who is explicitly a regular warm climate rhino not the wooly variety Ogres historically had. Hunters are clearly BCR, but Raiders could go either way and the Glutthorn reads Gutbusters though it may have an option like the tyrant to flavour it slightlyI'd be better if we got Mournfang and a Rhinox, just painted brown for Gutbusters like WHF
>>98283931I feel like the ranged variant of the new monsters could be beastclaw. The riders are very clearly just mounted hunters, if you look closely they're also more covered up than the melee variant.The new monsters being more gutbuster is a shame, but then again beastclaw already have 2 centrepiece monsters. But yeah the tyrant having a beastclaw-themed alt build shows they're not doing away with that part anytime soon to me.I think the plan for the foreseeable future is 4 subfactions/subcultures:>gutbusters>beastclaw>mawseekers>maneaters (coming soon)I guess they could bring back stuff like firebellies in the future but these 4 seem solid, as things stand.
>>98282427gofile.io/d/JXpc9g
>>98283954I hate these little deathclaw shitbulls idk what they were thinking with this. Is this how WHFags felt about LRL kangaroos or demigryphs earlier? Just feels like fantasy nonsense, like a he-man figure or something
>>98283986As opposed to mournfangs? Idk didn't like them at first either but have since warmed up to them.
>>98283986>Just feels like fantasy nonsenseThey look way more sci-fi
>>98283986>Is this how WHFags felt about LRL kangaroos or demigryphs earlier?No, it's how they felt about the thundertusk.
>>98282199Normally I'd have some off-colour witticism ready but after seeing them installing AC for their pigs I am going to abstain seeing as how they treat livestock better than the eurocrats treat their citizens.
>>98282792AXE ATTACKSOglodi tome when
>>98283993Yeah. I think it's just too much. Horned lizard dogs with leathery skin Vs something that just reads as a wooly rhino + sabretooth. >>98284019kek exactly
>>98283986>Just feels like fantasy nonsense, like a he-man figure or somethingStop, stop, I was already sold on them, you don't have to sell me further!
I like the little shittbulls
What's the consensus regarding reinforcing units in AOS? What units are worth reinforcing and which are best left running at minimum strength. I reckon tarpits and hammer units should be reinforced.
>>98284056If you don't reinforce then >waste the many once per army buffs >pay the regiment hero tax >higher drops >hinder retreat/recursion basically reinforce everything, you have to. Most of the games I see do not exceed two regiments and it's all big monster heroes and reinforced units
>>98284062Right. Bigger units look nicer on the battlefield, do you also use movement trays, since base size and weapon choices don't matter as much anymore as they used to in previous editions.
>>98284053They and Red are by far the most memetic part of the new releas. Everythin else is correct, but a bit bland
>>98283690I generally really like these guys but it somewhat bothere me that only one out of three guys is actually ready to fire his crossbow, if that makes sense.
>>98283156its pure delusional cope isn't it? To think that maybe that bug head is something to do with Firebellies.
Hey guys I went to my local game store to ask what kind of miniature wargame I should get into. After letting the shop owner know that im a fucking faggot that loves getting hot loads pumped into my ass and throat they said this is the game for me, how do I get started?
>>98281896>TQThe new hunters are cool, I like them. I just don't know what I'm gonna do with my metal hunter now. Just use him as one and then have a spare plastic body I can chuck into some other unit? Might be the go
>>98284109Yes Anon. It's exactly what you think it is
>>98284109Nah it's a scrapped incarnate, we saw artwork of the full model in the background of a white dwarf article. It's of course possible that the spider incarnate still gets recycled into the game at some point though like what happened with the idoneth incarnateAlso huh never noticed the mantis head on the firebelly before, what the fuck is that?>>98284110Get yourself a spearhead of your choice
>>98283986I wouldn't say they look weird or don't fit AoS aesthetic. But I wish they have fur
>>98284123>Nah it's a scrapped incarnate, we saw artwork of the full model in the background of a white dwarf articleSauce?Pic?
>>98284109White fang, the og rumourmonger explicitly said it was an incarnate of ulgu that had been abandoned. Also >>98284123 It was part of the Thondia campaign series that was aborted - the remnants were thrown into WD as a random bestiary section formatted like the last book. Thondia ends with the BoC shaman leaving for Ulgu, tracking the disturbance in the realms' magic or something. It's basically confirmed and you would expect Gloomspite to get it as an incarnate, especially if production was far along. My schizo theory is that spiderfang are leaving so anything associated with the Arachnarock has to go too, so there's no point producing it.
>>98284139
>>98284138They're hormed hairless dogs, dogs with two sets of horns: one like a rhino, the other a bull. They have prominent chins but humans are the only animals with chins. They're definitely weird, man, but it fits AoS I guess. I just think it's a bit too much.
>>98284071NTA, but I tend to use movement trays for larger units, but anything below 20 models I don't bother.
>>98284145Speaking of spiderfang, I think regular loonbosses can now take em in their regiments, whereas previously you needed the spider specific characters. Dunno if that imploes anything.
>>98284071big units for AoS are usually 10-20 so it's rare but I did used to see them (though it was a magnetised AoS base not a tray - like 20 Stabbas on a big oval)
>>98284167No, but the webspinner can take Any Moonclan which makes me think riders are leaving or getting refreshed to be moonclan
>>98284172Oh, it's the other way around? My bad
>>98284174Yeah, the Loonboss can take a Catapult now though. It'd be a bit weird it a foot hero could take monsters or cav
>>98284123>Also huh never noticed the mantis head on the firebelly before, what the fuck is that?original warhammer fantasy lore was that its the head of a lava swimming giant beetle that potential Firebellies have to hunt and eat one of their trials. The last trial is to drink lava.I don't know how much of that was copied into AoS
>>98284183>The last trial is to drink lava.LAVA DOES NOT WORK THAT WAYGOOD NIGHT
>>98284183British men must undergo the same trials to tolerate foreign spices like pepper or coriander
>>98284181>loonboss down to 70>loonboss on manglers down to 140ComicalWhat's the cheapest unit AoS has ever had? The loonboss has to be getting close
Question: If things are relegated to legends does that not mean they'll no longer be updated? Then Why did legends get new warscrolls?
>>98284201the clawlord has been 70 for a while, but the webspinner shaman used to be 60 or something? I think the black ark fleetmaster was really cheap too
>>98284222legends get a year of support but I wouldn't expect anything beyond the first faq because things were broken like CoS keywords the legends pdf is updated every time something else is thrown in
>>98284201Can't remember what edition but I remember being able to get clanrats by 10 for 60 pts.From memory 1st edition generals handbook Sylvaneth dryads were 10 models for 70 pts
>>98284217I think they fixed the mistake where CoS legends units have the old keywords instead of the new ones which makes them actually useable.
>>98284226>>98284229Ah, ok, I guess that makes sense. Additions, edits, and errata.
>>98284279Truly have no idea. Some magic bullshit obviously, but who for?Could be part of the skink coatl wizard I guess?
>>98284279Maybe seraphon endless spell? But pity hero is way more likely. Btw, how old is the Starpriest?
>>982843012013. Same as the carno
>>98284279Random Tzeentch character for the end campaign
>>98284030>something that just reads as a wooly rhino + sabretooth.I didn’t even realize that’s what they were supposed to be a combination of. I already didn’t like the old mount because they had a terminal case of ork ass, but they really are more nonsensical.
Did Blanche ever do art on ogres
>>98284334Plenty of ice age animals look whack but the Maulbeasts are implausible and they're too anthromorphic
>>98284381the hunter was him for sure
>>98284386oh, my mistake I could've sworn it was a coffee stain blanche piece
>>98283954Firebellies could be merged into maneaters if maneaters become the “gun ogre” subfaction
>>98284381Originally, and I would guess the Cursed City Ogre is his work.
>commemorative models out the ass for everything >no Harry to commemorate his passing maybe on his anniversary but you think they'd announce it
>>98284406I don't think they knew the exact time of death in advance to ready the releas
>>98284395That'd require quite the redesign of firebellies both visually and thematically I feel like
>>98283986>idk what they were thinking with thisI believe they're another attempt to integrate the taotie into ogres, but the result is too bland here, if they had flabby lips like an actual shitbull, or thick fur on the back, or a more armoured cheratinous forehead, or curved asian teeth, maybe they could have had something going on, but as it stands they're just generic fantasy beasts to replace the mournfangs, which despite all their flaws, were attempting something at least.
>>98284196the first trial is literally to eat a curry.
>>98284451whoops wrong file lel
>>98284420I mean they probably pump out models fairly quickly? The CoS STLs were shown off years before release. They withhold production for warehousing logistics and financial reports, but commemorative models are detached from that
>>98284451I'm sure TOW will get upgraded kits eventually, the whole system is a mess of mandatory kitbashes and HH gets plastic upgrades
>>98284497Needing an upgrade sprue for something as basic as "chaos warrior great weapons" sounds pretty annoying thoughFor aos it's purely visual so not quite as big a pain in the ass
>>98284497when was the last time HH even got plastic upgrades? All they're getting are tanks last I checked.
>>98284490The design pipeline for minis is years, GW have been open about their design process a few times in white dwarf. They're not pumping out models fast. Even something for the one year anniversary is a stretch, but possible if given relatively high resources to rush.
>>98284406remember it took them like a month after the 10 year anniversary of AoS to go like "oh yeah" and pumped out some random warcom articlesHad to wait another two months for the white dwarf celebrating 10 years of AoS in ...september
>>98283961hello? CEO of Based? Yes, I'd like to report a based moment
>>98284515
>>98284707Ball joints my beloved…
>>98284707Exactly, I'm really glad we moved on from those.
>>98284556blanche was like the last original part of GW to leave the company tbf? Idk man he basically built the company's visuals. I think we'll get a commemorative model on his anniversary or his birthday or something
>>98284053This is a sheep.
>>98284423Less so than you’d think. Back in FB, firebellies were nomadic and unattached to any particular tribe. It’s obviously a bit different in AoS, but you could very easily slot in the fire mage ogre into a subfaction that’s all about using firearms
This thing reminded me: StD have no mounted sorcerer outside of Legends. The studio should do something about that.
>>98284750Um, bro, your gaunt summoner?
>>98284526They are not sculpting miniatures for years. The pipeline is production and chiefly restrained by marketing. How long does it take to tool a model? How long does it take for it to be moulded - commemorative models are done quickly, cheaply. How long does it take to run it in the PIM machine to meet capacity when it's 3-9k output units per hour? GW can do whatever they want, they choose not to because it's easier that way: they have two local warehouses that accommodate everything they produce.
>>98284750Bro, your grand marshal of the apocalypse?
>>98284761He’s not a wizard
>>98284729Yeah but for TOW that would be business as usual. They'd eat it up, and did because they reprinted those for it.
>>98284750It's the dumbest thing in the entire world we have two refreshed, compatible ranges and they won't let you do any crossover with them.
>>98284750We need more mounted sorcerers (pretend he’s a shaman)
>>98284763
>>98284763What made you think he wasn't?
>>98284761the skull pimples always make me smile but the Stormcast helms crack me up, they must've thought they were golems or something kek
>>98284782>>98284785It's the tzeentch head
>>98284785>chosen scion of all four chaos gods>no ward savedamn they fucking HATE this guy
>>98284777long time no see anonand yeah the roster of mounted wizards is surprisingly small, if you don't count vampires and co
>>98284791Ward (5+) right there
>>98284791What do you think the WARD (5+) indicates?
>>98284789No, he was a wizard back in fantasy too before dorghar ate any lord of change.
>>98284789Oh true,Hey anon do you mind telling me the name of the model the tzeentch head is on?
>>98283961woah thanks anon
It's up.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/dtgjfnjo/scourge-of-aqshy-free-rules-for-the-forces-of-order/
>>98284763>>98284791They sure ain’t sending their best anymore.
>>98284917Can he do it?
>>98284942He'd at least stand a chance if Karanak wasn't there.
>>98284917>join us tomorrow for the forces of Chaos.Kinda curious what they'll cook up for the HoH sentinels.
>>98284917Man they’re really trying to kill of zenistra
>>98285013kek
Man I wan the new ogors already
>>98285071Star eating and you'll find them in the mirror
>>98285087>Star eatingI think I'm talking to one right now, lel
>>98285071I think they might come quicker than expected, I thought they'd wait a bit before the next reveals because 40k is doing them too but I think they're just doing both of those every week. Maybe even preorder of the army set in mid/late july?
>>98284917>Seraphon>DONT move and maybe you do stuff>shit ass traits>aggro vet can maybe see play but loses rage scream, aggradons might lose rage in the new book?>slann loses global deny, +1 to cast and recursion to gain a shitty spell that wont matter if its within 12 of the enemy and buffing manifestation damagegod its so bad, nothing here makes me want to keep playing this shit
>>98285217The actual seraphon faction pack update was pretty good at least
>two new prayer lores for ChaosCould be fun.
>>98284917Looks less innovative than scourge of ghyran.Tbh even with the reboot which seems to be coming out of left field? I get the sinking feeling 5e biggest addition will be detachments without stratagems and the game will be mostly the same just without double turns.Shouldn't the campaign book been announced already for the end of edition?
>>98285469Bit early for that. I know dawnbringers started in the summer but I feel like that's an exception (which might have something to do with general 3rd edition behind the scenes weirdnes). For example the 40k end of edition stuff only started in january this year with the ultramarine thingies, and I think back in the day broken realms started around november of december
>>98285469>Shouldn't the campaign book been announced already for the end of edition?Thought so too. fairly sure Danwbringer alreayd had the 1st wave by now
>>98285597Dawnbringer was the exception, it started way earlier than the others.
>>98284917Am I seeing right that these upgrades are not once per Army and are only once per unit? Are they really all spammable for a few points each?
>>98282154AOS doesn't necessarily have to be grimdark like 40k. I'd go so far as to say it has swords and sorcery, dark fantasy, high fantasy, and even noblebright elements in it. You want to paint your man eating ogres like yoroni then do so. Nothing wrong with it.
>>98285636Can't you only take one of each unique advancement by default?don't take my word for it, I'm a nogames for now
>>98285665I think you are right. Unique enhancements pretty much implies as much at least. Still, it's three additional upgrade options for a nominal point cost that don't exclude you from anything else and actually works on the cavalryNice to have at least one thing that's not just them trying to push namarti and make it a real thing
>>98285665>>98285693Unique enhancements are like any other enhancement. Only one per army.
>>98285217Seraphon are suffering for all the bullshit they pulled in 1st and 2nd.
>>98285947Something about the helmets are just weird for the new warriors. It’s soft and rough, cartoony and realistic, it’s some kind of memetic force at work here that’s just bothering me.
>>98285959They are inspired by the old (and ugly) ones, but it's kinda charming The shoulders look worse if you ask me
>>98285959Chaos warriors are purely cartoonish, but I think it's just an unfamiliar shape after more than a decade of consistency
>>98285959They're not what you're used to.
>>98285947>bro the basic bithc chaos warrior will get a bigger chosen base renderign all of existing toworriros unusableI highly doubt this
>>98281942Cool WFB art
>>98286014>retarded pornbait>cool
>>98285998nomodels lmao TOW is designed to accommodate scale creep, they aren't using WHFB base sizes
>>98285947The current aos chosen are like half a head bigger than the warriors (without taking into account horns etc) while in this pic they look basically the same height, so I wouldn't trust it for much besides giving a vague impression of how tow warriors will look on rounds.Also damn does that paintscheme instantly make them look 2x better lol
>>98285998The size of the mini doesnt matter at all for TOW/Fantasy, when its base determined. The size increase was unavoidable because of the base size increase, making most old infantry models look weirdly spread out in their units. 2004 WoCs included
>>98285968The shoulders look off the me too. Reminds me off some of the stuff you see on space marine terminator characters in 30k
bastards
>>98286029>Implying Morathi isn't canon pornbaitlol, retard
>>98286014>WFB arttotal war art
I’m so excited for Rage dice as if half these armies didn’t have enough abstract shit to keep track of 24/7
>>98284526Totally untrue and directly contradicted by both past events like the entire sisters of battle plastic range going from survey result to concept designs to full release within a year and by the direct statement from Andy Hoare from specialist games saying the design to manufacture for plastic model kits was about 3 months. GW own the entire process end to end, they are not outsourcing to get molds cuts or negotiating time in the schedule of a production company, if they want something done expeditiously they have the capacity to do it.What is planned out years in advance is release schedules, occasionally we've seen internal roadmaps leaked, like the one for necromunda (which is a product managed by Andy Hoare who says design to manufacture takes 3 months) which showed planned releases that would have spanned 2017 to present. There are also clear alterations to those plans based on what actually came out, the reception of ash wastes seems to have changed and delayed plans.
>>98286097I dont like them. Pelt and the other animal skin looks good, but the plain new shoulder just looks too big. If it was a bit smaller, like with the green outline instead of the red one, it would be better and less "fat".
>>98285982They're quite literally what they used to
>>98286191Yeah, I agree, it looks fairly blocky and big. Straight out of 1st aos in that sense. Weird, because I think the 5th edition warriors these are based on don't have that.Other than that, I do like em.
>>98286182No they don't. Books and (funnily enough) boxes/instructions are printed outside, you can't do anything without these. Remember how new HH edition had nearly a year delay because something in rulebook was wrong and they had to pulp old ones and do a new run?
>>98286202If you look at >>98286201 or my pic related, i think we can agree that the old ones had quite chonky shoulders too.I think its pretty cool that they choose them for their redesign, and not re-do the newer chaos warriors yet again. Maybe the desgin will grow on us over time.Still.. A hulking evil warriors with pelts over his shoulders is just so good looking, its hard to let it go.
>>98286212Retard that is a logistical issue. It has nothing at all to do with the design or manufacturing of miniatures. GW is not taking years to design and manufacture new miniatures.
>>98285947Now the only question is what AoS is going to do with its own warriors.
>>98286270Varanguard are mortal equivalent of a demon prince on the PtG, they aren't chosen on horses
>>98286270They need to re-introduce colours to chaos. We need blue, red, pink and green as armor colour more often on the default pictures.
>>98286270leaks of more chaos stuff? I think they'll just be gunpowder centric but the fluff permits both new Everchosen and Belakhor followers to thrive? Varanguard on foot basically, forsaken as gifts are given more readily without Archaon as a central champion ascending
>>98286278You will be five separate armies and you will like it
>>98286216Maybe it's the angle, but they look more rounded here and don't stick out so much. The new ones are more "detached".Though admittedly some of the pauldrons in the other pic do look a bit more square than I remember.I do think *if* you really need to make another set of chaos warriors basing them on the older sculpts instead of the 6th (?) edition ones that AoS builds on is probably the right move. I feel like with both marauders and now warriors we've seen aos and tow diverging (ironically tow so far being more of a break with whatever previous incarnation both are based) in aesthetics a bit, I wonder if this trend will continue for other shared armies (e.g. night goblins and moonclan). I guess if VC or now ogres ever get out of legends we already see a shift in aesthetic, this time from the (more expected) AoS side.
>>98286270They dont need to do anything. They just keep that design, because it clearly works and is well liked.
>>98286287No, i will never accept that.
>>98286308>Kroen warriro with tzeenthc bannerGay and retarded. Nevery Chaos again
>>98286277I choose to ignore that
>>98286270Nothing, why would aos change its design now that tow went out of its way to create a new one?
>not a single Cities artillery focused formation It was a good run
>>98286336because gw can be very dumb?
>>98286343They have 1 cannon
>>98283954WTF is this head texture?
>>98286351and two battle formations for them or ranged generally until a day ago
>>98282792>>98282847Kino
>>98286362Looks like deep wrinkles. He must worry a lot
>>98286350Idk chaos warriors seem like a very popular range. No reason to touch em.Then again, with the 5th edition starter set rumours, who knows.
>>98286372>HeHow can't you tell them apart? Eyes are the little maws of the soul.
>>98286384>How can't you tell them apart?I can
>>98286380Stormcast were the most popular army and refreshed, though I suspect it's just an expansion
>>98286402It took 10 years to remake a SCE
>>98286417it took one to make a new Chaos Warrior kit tbf doesn't matter, if it sells it sells
>>98286431Retard multipart version of an etb kit isn't a remake
>>98286402>Stormcast were the most popular armyAre they? I'm sure they're popular but I feel like other factions edge them out.
>>98286402I feel like you and I both know stormcast are somewhat of a special case>>98286451In terms of "most owned and played army", yeah they are.
Bros I think I’m starting a BoC proxy army
>>98286482BoK*
>>98286482Back to your own thread shill spammer
>>98286482Funnily enough when I first saw them I thought they look more like rotswords than chaos warriors
6 more days until we see the rhino. Any predictions?
>>98286535Nah rotswords are more rounded and actually layered, nevermind the motifs they have.
>>98286542There's not much to predict is there, we saw the whole damn thing.I guess we don't know what the globbdottir variant looks like yet.
>>98286482These looks incredible, I think I’m going to grab the core set next week. I’ve wanted to get Cathay minis to paint anyways.
>>98286450What's the difference? Separate mould? Yes. Separate assets? Yes.
>>98286578Same design, skipping big chunk of r&d and not needing separate promotional material.You're aksing what's the difference between chaning a lightbulb and swapping the lamp
>>98286572Alt builds can be quite different. maybe it has a decorated head in the named version? Or some fancy armor
>>98286572I remember some white dwarf article mentioning a throne made of meteoric iron sacred to the ogres?
>>98286647Oh that'd be cool
>>98286647The Granite-but-probably-not-granite Throne of the Meatfist
>>98286734>Granite-but-probably-not-graniteGneiss than?
>>98286647>>98286734Ah shit
>Erasmus Zonn, peak human wizard of the preeminent wizard city in all the realms, has Wizard (1)>Redd the Maw, an illiterate tub of lard, has Wizard (2)Maybe humans just suck.
>>98281896>1)Do you like the new hunter?No. He is not a Kurnothi model.
>>98286809Zonn has modifiers
>>98286809Erasm doens't have 2 extra guys hanging around to up the mgic aura
>>98286809I mean, Lorewise Ogres were created by the old ones as the last "perfect" attempt after seeing Dwarfs Elves and Humans as a failure, they are the peak lifeform ubermensch, they just didnt have time to properly civilize them before fucking off to space
>>98286809Such is the power of the maw
>>98286809redd has eaten more wizards than zonn
>>98286822>I mean, Lorewise Ogres were created by the old ones as the last "perfect" attempt after seeing Dwarfs Elves and Humans as a failureThat's not how the plan works, mate.
>>98286828>Why doesn't Redd the Maw, the largest wizard, simply eat his rivals?>He does.>Oh, well. Carry on then.
Redd the Maw looks really bad imo. Otherwise I love every other model in the refresh. But he actually looks like shit. Very uninspired and a direct downgrade to the Skrag the Slaughterer model.
>>98286838He’s fine he just needs to be on an oval. Personally I don’t care for skraag, not even because he’s fineshit but the entire concept of him is just too try hardy.
>>98286834The gut feeling revealed it to me
>>98286838I really like him, aside from the wasted base size. Never cared much for skragg's model, always looked pretty ugly to me.
>>98286838He's more generic, that's for sure, but he's also going to be the central model of a number of armies so it's good that he's generic rather than something too special.
>>98286853There is no way you can justify Red over Skrag unless it’s mindless new=better. >>98286864Genuinely terrible consooomer opinions. The rest of the new sculpts look fantastic. Redd is boring shite.
>>98286882Kinda want to agree, but mainly because in my eyes all the "platform on wheels" models look bad, and weirdly toyish in a bad way, Screaming bell is another example
>>98286882Redds pot has more purpose. Naw himself also is cool,I like the detail of him missing his finger. Generally the model is simple but it’s effective story telling around it. Skraag is just out of place in both iterations og(o)res
>>98286882>it's consoomer to prefer toy A over toy BThe muh consoomer gimmick always struck me as pretty retarded on a board half dedicated to plastic toys, but this takes it to a whole new level.
>>98286912>Skraag is just out of place in both iterations og(o)resUnlike your mom
>>98286915This calling it toys to degrade the aesthetic argument is always pathetic whenever it comes up
>>98286834It literally does.
>>98286838The chunk of resin that looks melted?
>>98286809More body = more magic, that just makes sense! Redd's probably really old too.
>>98286482>dood what if space marines but fantasy????Yawn.Shame on GW for releasing this new specialist game just to chase 40kiddies.
>>98286997>More body = more magicSo we're operating on star wars logic
Still waiting for the named ogor waifu.
>>98286935What aesthetic argument retard? I'm calling it toys because that's what they are and to highlight how retarded it is to brand someone as a "consoomer" for not liking your preferred one.
>>98287031You can be gay for Reddit while you wait
Here's what I'd do for a Kruleboyz Wave>BoltbossSniper hero with a fancier crossbow that can mark enemy heroes for boltboys so they get 5+ crits>Vulcha Hunta (& Vulcha Flock)Guy whose sole purpose is to throw birds at enemies and the birds that get thrown at enemies as their own unit>Gnashtoof YoofsOrks on smaller gnashtoofs armed with javelins who get bonus rending on charge against units they shot>LootasDirty Trick fumble collectors that can cash in failed rolls for big damage
>>98287053>Boltboss>Sniper hero with a fancier crossbow that can mark enemy heroes for boltboys so they get 5+ critsThat's jsut killbow. Even the mark ability was used at some point in a RoR
>>98287053I honestly don't know what I'd add to the KB range aside from the obvious gnashtoof cavalry. Maybe some armoured troggoths?I feel like they could use some elite infantry but I have no idea how you'd implement that in an interesting way besides just gutrippaz in more armour. Oh, and I guess maybe normal gobbos?
>>98287122>>98287053You could make a unit based off of this guy, with their main feature being dealing barely any damage, being hard to kill, but making engaged units suffer more damage when they retreat, and allow allied units to shoot at enemies engaged with them (and only them), but make them suffer a mortal whenever an ally rolls a 1 to hit
>>98287122Nah elite infantry is the one thing they shouldn’t have. Maybe monster tamers. Unironically they need to copy dark elves, or maybe follow whatever the orcs in middle earth have besides the big hardy guys.
>>98287146Oh yeah this guy is pretty sick. Everyone loves the micolash in his warband but this guy's always been the standout to me>>98287154>Nah elite infantry is the one thing they shouldn’t haveWhy not? To avoid ironjaws overlap?Also look at this sick oldhammer artillery thingy I found, feels very kruleboyz-ish
>>98287174Same isue as with the hero sniper, its just what Killbow is
>>98287174>To avoid ironjaws overlap?Kinda, It’s just something I think the faction wouldn’t want thematically. Similar to gits. I also just can’t imagine bayou boys rocking any real armor.
>>98287197It's actually supposed to be a mangonel
>>98287202>>98287146> I also just can’t imagine bayou boys rocking any real armor.You dont have toSame for Goblins. They already got armored Squigriders, no reason not to giev them armored grots based on the looncourt
>>98287202Mhm, wouldn't necessarily have to be heavily armoured orcs, (though the faction does have that to some extent). Could also be like... idk like a bigger meaner version of the howler monkeys from the warcry warband. >>98287209If gits someday actually get an armoursd unit I hope it looks more like this guy than the looncourt guys, never really like their armour design. Though I do love the catapult and squig rider.
>>98287053I'm a big fan of making the Kruleboyz cav be dudes (Mostly boltboyz) riding smaller vulchas. The KB like using cheap tactics, fast, flying ranged units are very much that. IF they wanna do gnashtoofs they can either be the hunting pack type unit, or hobgrot cav.>>98287063Killbow isn't a hero.Though they could make it one if they wnated I suppose
>>98287122>>98287154>>98287174>>98287202>>98287209>>98287231Could just give them Fimir Mercs for their heavies. Kruleboyz are very clearly oldhammer inspired, and Fimir and Orcs have been known to be decently cool with each other since all the way back in the heroquest days.
>>98287402Would undoubtedly be funny to get kruleboy fimir after all
>>98287827If only GW was brave enough
I wonder why people are so surprised GW is taking aos in a different direction, they've done it with virtually all of their games. Multiple times, even. 40k had the obvious rogue trader-second edition pipeline, then whatever the fuck happened in 8th (theres probably been more radical shifts even before that but I cant care to point them out), and fantasy was all over the place between starting off being a solidified wargame in 5th edition. then you have the shift in 6th edition where they were trying to get fantasy to chase after the 40k audience, and then 8th edition was what it was for fantasy. Then back to tow its making an attempt to be noble bright, at least thats what i've been told. This stuff happens all the time, mainly because GW just doesnt know what its doing and because they try to follow trends.
>>98288028Just disappointed. >>98287827God I love rough stroke art. If only Sigmar Souls existed.
>>982880281 - grimdark stuff has long been overdone and antone who engages with wargames outside GW, which among AoS audiences is more common than 40k or fantasy is sick of it2 - the issue with TLW rumors is that it throws away the part of the setting that people who engage with it like, to please a dishonest argument of people who wont engage with it ever.
>>98288059are those the same kind of dragons that krondys and khrazy is supposed to be?
>>98288059Also, its very easy to make Stormcasts grimdark, but its more popular and profitable to make them more like space marines, which despite people meming about landmarines, is what they actually react to positevly
>>98288063Dont think so, Khrazy and krondys have 6 limbs, those ones have 4, but dracothion here is depicted with only two so who knows
>>98288063Dracothion has all kinds of spawns. Dracoths don't have wings and are from him too
>>98288155kinda hope we see more of his incarnation that are winged but dont have any other limbs then.
>>98288257We'll get one with 6 left legs. 6 limbs = dragon after all
I'm getting into slaanesh but I've got to ask what the fuck is the point of the lord of hubris? Is the ability designed so that you can have another unit be safe against a given target by possibly saccing hubris?
>>98288318Yes, he's essentially a weird bodyguard. It's mostly just a flavour text unit
>>98288318Pair him with Sigvald and watch your opponent cope with not being able to swing at the actual threat. >then if it's my Sigvald, he'll miss 4 attacks and fail to wound on the other 5 before getting one-shot
Can someone please upload the orruk battletome?
>>98283961>>98288330
When is the next art showcase by warcom?
>>98288338On a slow day
>>98282420got a Legends Warscroll. A focused shooting hero that uses the whole underworlds band, including the tusksabre as tokens. Cool ranger vibes tho, you throw the beast to get a +1 attack.
