Slaves to Darkness (Proxies) Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98281896>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questions:What do you think of the new Proxy StD range? Will you be picking any up for your army?
>>98290553Only faggots proxy. June ended yesterday, anon.
>>98290553Crazy how the head looks properly proportioned on the horse. Is this a GW first?
>>98290553Thats what i was talking about regarding helmets in the previous thread, two on the right are great, the left one is just a goofy combination of a fantasy evil helmet and a sallet
You can now have a flying Ogroid Thaumaturge with 14" movement, and I think that's neat.
>this towdler isn't jsut shitting up our thread but spamming 40kg as wellHoly fuck. Nobody will buy your trash, give up
>>98290578It's all GW shit mate wise up weeaboo
>>98290553>TQI've already 20 of the older chaos knights from 7th edition and I don't like painting trim. So I think I'll skip these.
>>98290578I can tell you're trans
Finished the starter paint set. They're all this messy and over-shaded but I'm proud of my first guys and considering getting some more.
>>98290562I think it's the horse armor bulking it up. They're still doing huge body+small head.
what's the best way to start a rat army?
>>98290600If these are your first minis, theyre very good. Better than things I've seen from people painting for years
>>98290600These fucking suck
>>98290607One of the gorillion box sets they made for them.
>>98290606They also like adding those leg protectors to the armoured horses. As far as I know they were never used in warfare, I guess they'd slow down the horses too much and tire them out. Sometimes you do see them on polo fields and with mounted riot police though.
>>98290614>>98290617This was most likely written by the same guy
>>98290600Not terrible for the 1st time. You could be more careful with painitng over things, like with the red stain on the armor. Don't be afraid to paint over mistakes
>>98290627Guess again fagboy
>tww trailer>zoomoid faggots """troll"" here by being retarded and annoyingPainfully predictable
>>98290636Ok then let's talk about the trailers for Sigmar games insteadOh wait
>>98290445Probably just loomies innit>>98290636It's so predictable at this point lmao
>>98290553Why would I want downgraded STD models?
>Vengorian Lord 200 pts>Revenant Draconith 180 pts>Scourge of Aqshy Vengorian Lord 310 pts>Scourge of Aqshy Revenant Draconith 290 ptsOkay now I'm curious what they plan on doing with these things to warrant the +110 pts.
>>98290642You wouldn't, thankfully the updates release soon.
>>98290636Post models
>>98290642Exactly why I am waiting until the weekend to start my StD.
>>98290642ToW is about to be squated and this is the last chance to save it. Just look how badly its 1 player wants you to buy it
>>98290663Still waiting to see your models faggot
>>98290600Based modelposter>>98290663I'm sure another ai colour swap will finally do the trickSeriously why is he shilling so hard, they're fine enough models. Though the unit size makes them somewhat unwieldy for aos
>>98290676He doesn't have models he just spreads discord through his console war faggotry, probably a secondary.
Even Bloodbowl now has a "smaller army" alternative format.Hopefully hachette releases a magazine with sprues I would gladdly pick some things for kitbatching
>>98290722Can somebody give me the tldr on this hachette stuff, do you have to subscribe for the whole thing or can you just pick and choose individual issues?
The new chaos range models fucking suck. Even if I wanted to play chaos it wouldn’t be undivided trash, or rather Nu undivided trash.
My main interest in TOW chaos is the potential for a chariot. I'll take either or but c'mon GW refresh that shit
>>98290722>Even Bloodbowl now has a "smaller army" alternative format.Literally how? Only way to go smaller from that game is 1v1 penalty kicks
>>98290762You can purchase individual issues on their website, but they're all sold out and I don't know when they restock. I think they always sell out pretty quickly.Otherwise you can cancel your subscription early, but that's about it I think.
>TQ Kurnothi of course
>>98290873its 7s with 11 in the team, as opposed 11 and 16 in the team. also there Blitz Bowl which is awesome, and should have been reworked into the MiniatureXCardagame mix instead of Underworlds
>>98290873Maybe something like Dreadball? They have smaller teams and more free-for-all nature that allows for more than two players to face off.
>>98290607Spearhead box, play a few spearhead games, if you like it then go on GW and look at the line, find the ones that catch your eye the most, determine what clan you want to play as (if you care), go on one of the gazillion army builders online and mock up an army, first 1k adding to your spearhead, then 1.5, then 2k. buy them from amazon or your flgs.
>>98290873Sevens
How the fuck do you confuse an army that has cross bows as something that’s cavemen coded Also nice to see gw can sculpt the strings for crossbows, it’s a little thing but it’s seemingly something only the Aos studio is capable of recently between kroot and Cathay archers.
>>98290946>How the fuck do you confuse an army that has cross bows as something that’s cavemen codedIt's well established boole is a half-blind cardboard box producer that can read the big name on the box and kinda see the shape
>>98290955He has some insight into background at times, like zonn's whole deal or reddit the maw bringing back maw worship and shit
>>98290553replace eightpoint banner with khorne rune banner and khorne heads and wallah
>>98290890why did you sneak that nurgle model into your elves.
Humans in destruction, ya or nah? Especially ones allied with nu ogors.
retard
finished painting a Revenant
>>98291083It’s always a possibility if it’s retarded.
>>98291091how do you do the wood fren
>>98291091Evil lookin mf
>>98291091Those damn trees really have grown on me.
>>98291066nah
Okay they fucked up the points for the thaumaturge, its just the soggy scroll so there is no reason for him to be 210 points.
>>98291099I use TTC browns, basecoat is Scorched Earth, shaded with a black wash. Then layered up with Ancient Forest and Wasteland Brown while trying to do some basic volumetric highlights.>>98291102>>98291103I know a lot of people don't like these half tree guys but I think they're really fucking cool
>>98291091what's your skin recipe
>>98291129Genuinely the first time i hear people be negative about them
>>98291103Heh
>>98290553>Will you be picking any up for your army?You can't bring STD models with Kurnothi, so no.
>>98291066Neh, half the destruction is already deformed humans
>>98291102It's the spite one. They are evil
>>98291153Same here
I've narrowed down the list of potential armies I want to play. Can you guys help me choose? I'm guessing I would just start with the spearhead for them, so lmk if they're worth it.>IDK>Maggotkin>Seraphon>Sylvaneth
Rolled 3, 4 = 7 (2d4)>>98291219Buy two spearheads, you'll probably want to let a friend use one to get them into the game tbhon and it'll let you experiment with models and rules Which two? These ones.
>>98291219Play what you think is cool, doesnt matter anyway you will never assemble them or paint them
>>98291219Seraphon is the easiest to paint among them, and assemble. I dont know how to recommend spite riders with how deceptive the kit is, even if I do love sylvaneth. If you like maggotkin though thats fine too, just some people get turned off by the spearhead, but its a good horde.
>GW gives the coolest nurgle unit the worst rules
>>98291219get the old sylvaneth spearhead with the tree ancient. Probably wait on Maggokin they will get a new one for with their new units at some point.
>>98291273is the soggy- sorry scourge of aqshy profile not good?
>>98291219>I've narrowed down the list >>IDKSo do you or do you not know what army you want?
>>98291219Current nurgle spearhead is dogshit, wait a bit for a new one if you're interested in maggotkin
>>98291287Nope
>>98290899>and should have been reworked into the MiniatureXCardagame mix instead of UnderworldsFuck off underworlds is cool (new ed is shit tho). I don't mind another cardXmini game but they don't need to destroy underworlds (more) for this.>>98291219Seraphon Spearhead has a big dino, that is cool.(pick the ones that look cool for you)
>>98291138Duncans paints again, Incubus Purple shaded with a purple wash and highlighted by layering Enticing Purple and Decadent Purple
>>98291219>>98291351Seraphon spearhead will probbly get rebooted in th enext 3 months
>>98291351Didnt meant to suggest killing off UW, but when you think about it, sports game seems to be the most obvious choice
>>98291366Sports games are ass. All the models are cringe and wierd so you can't even proxy them properly
I dont like football but a remix of blood bowl but with wrestlers and boxers would be neat. Would be pretty rough trying to figure out weight classes though, especially with both dwarves and ogres in the mix.
>>98291384Im talking about the concept, blood bowl is already on a grid, you have cards for players, even the BlitzBowl thing where you need to perform some kind of feat to show-off to an audience in order to play a card, it writes itself
>>98291402In BB snotlings go around it by having a special rule where they can sneak additional guys on the field
>>98291402>a remix of blood bowl but with wrestlers
>>98291415Surely the blue troll can solo the humanoid team
>>98291439he can't because of his weakness to anal, it's in the rules
>>98290600Very nice anon
>>98291384Bloodbowl is arguably GW's best game
>>98291451He can block his ass with the goblin
>>98291604Sports scare the anon though so it's automatically bad
>>98291604AoS "fans" dont even play their own game you can't expect them to have played bloodbowl
>>98291675you misspelled wfb there, which is actually true btw
>>98291604MESBG actually but BB is a close second
>>98291604So what? Aethetics are shit. You could have used good rules on somethigng paletable
>>98291705>Aethetics are shitIf you're trans I could see how you could think this way
>>98291699Funny how the two games everyone agrees are the best GW has to offer are based on rulesets from over 20 years ago with a few tweaks here and there.
>>98291741Just yet another example that there is no need to have a new edition every three years and that simplifying rules always results in a worse game
I like the maulbeasts but idk what to paint them with. The default color scheme seems boring, and black and red seems fitting for the model but not for a bcr army.
>>98291741I think GW mandate changes to drive engagement. It has struck me over the years that designers keep bemoaning changes made and it doesn't sound like it came from them. Jervis has had a few interviews post retirement and I've heard him say 3rd edition's alterations were a mistake. Sam Pearson was similarly throwing shade, when discussing how he didn't want Spearhead to be like the core game or something.MESBG is probably only kept due to licensing at this rate, so changes are probably not mandated by higher ups.
>>98291756Shitbull grey and brown?
>>98291773Huh, yeah that probably works perfectly.
>>98291762Yeah fr. It’s doesn’t sell well for sure but enough to justify its license. And as someone who plays MESBG I am very happy. We are basically in an ideal spot. 25 years of releases, over 100 different armies to play (a bit less as a few are basically the same army with slightly different army rules), very cheap miniatures, 800 points being considered a bit game also keeps it very cheap. And of course the same core game that launched in 2001. Just before anyone asks. The reason why 800 points is considered the very large end of standard games is because each miniature in MESBG functions as an individual both in movement and combat.
>>98291762I mean I'm sure it is profitable but it also defeats from their other games, surely? All the MESBGfags I know are only interested in it, but if it wasn't around they'd just be playing AoS or 40k. I'm guessing in the contract is a stipulation of maintenance of the license dependant on use just as Sony used to pump out Spiderman movies just to maintain ownership of the rights. GW probably don't care about MESBG but it'd be a mess if another company did.
>>98290553Feel Good being an Ogre Load
>>98291756I like this Kirbycast fellow
When will we get a new Black Library mini and who will it be? I'd be cool with either Heldanarr or Hamilcar
>>98291741Warcry is generally high up there too
>>98291821When was the last AoS BL book?
>>98291832The one with tahlia.
>>98291836Which was released in March, wasn't it?
>>98291821Kind of crazy how Hamilcar never got one considering how "big" he was in 1st/2nd. I'd give it to fall nowadays. Well received novel, unique design, popular faction. Seems like an easy win.
>>98291798It's funny that MESBG was once the game that kept GW alive. It's fallen off since then, but you gotta respect the legacy. Though yeah I'm sure these days GW gives the game token support mostly just to squat on the license and keep competition away.
>>98291832Starseers Ruin was pretty new.>>98291836Man that one was disappointing, I liked her first book, but that second was just bad
>>98291831
>>98291891Warcry is pretty fun anon? Sides this is the Aos general, Warcry is fine here.
The new Blood Warriors rules look so fuckin’ fun. Khornate Legion with a block of Bloodletters sequencing a block of Blood Warriors (with the latter getting better the more of them die) is gonna be great.
>>98291923Tzeentch rules seem neat too, screamers generally look fun and a nice support piece, you can get fate points quicker by turn 2. I don’t like how it’s gonna be more difficult for me to get chaos spawn on the fields now however.
Does anyone have the hunter and the hunted pdf? Are there any other works that fleshes out gorgers in Aos?
>>98291891Where do you think you are retard? Did you get confused by the op?
I fucking hate gay ass warcry and the faggot ass people who play it, every six months one of the three rotating retards who play it in my area crash out in the discord (last one threw a fit that people play AoS with me despite my terrain not being painted) and everytime some expresses interest in spearhead and asks me questions he steps in and goes YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN PLAY WARCRY FOR WAY CHEAPER THAN A SPEARHEAD BOX YOU SHOULD PLAY WARCRY WE HANG OUT AT (insert local board game shop where no one else plays) which scares the person away
>>98292064Sorry that happened to you sis but try not to take out your frustration with this one retard on every Warcry enjoyer. It's a nice ruleset.
>>98292084Nah the games are too quick it is not a nice ruleset it is simplistic slop
>>98292064Im glad you finally said it. I’m tired of Warcry „people” shitting up these threads and every single GW stream for the past 4 years.
Silence Warcry tranny, the BB and MESBG chads are talking, don't lump your tranny game in with us
>>98291821Some shitty female character.
>>98291821Isn't Hamilcar based on a unit that no longer exists for some reason.Actually, why the fuck don't lord castellans exist anymore.
If the Maulbeast miniatures are replacing the Mournfang miniatures, that means the new rhino-hippo model we haven't seen yet would be replacing the Rhinox models, right?
>>98292729it looks like its meant to be the new stonehorn equivalent
>>98292745I don't think so; despite their age, the Stonehorn and Thundertusk miniatures still look good. They might need the occasional touch-up, but I don't believe they'll be replaced—at least not until the 6th edition, when Destruction takes center stage again.
>>98292729I don't think it replaces anything, given it's primerly meant to be a named character
>>98292771i dont think any of the ogre plastics had aged much at all, they all looked good, but the fact of the matter is it seems GW is intent on cutting any and all ties with warhammer fantasies ogre kits, they've replaced everything. new hunters, new troops, new beasts, mournfang were perfectly servicable and they replaced them all the same, gnoblars appear to be completely erased from the game and lore to the point where you dont even see any companion gnoblar base decorations like what used to come in the old infantry kits. i think its a 100% refresh, i dont think any pre-aos stuff is sticking around and i'd be very surprised if that wasnt the case. its not about looks good or doesnt look good, its about the corporate mandated game system IP divorce going on behind the scenes
>>98290553>TQdefinitely going to get some for my maggotkin to give a little variety to the sloven knights and rotswordsi've also been considering using the new marauders in place of pestigors as a proxy but im not 100% sure on that one yet
New gnashtooth costs 230. What warcroll could justify that cost? I was hoping for a copy of SoG version but it's either overpriced or a monster
>>98291756I believe they look the best in green and snowy blue, otherwise they need patterns (tiger, leopard seal, orca)
>>98292812in the stream they already confirmed the stonehorn/thundertusk is sticking aroundthe real question is whether the cannon/catapult does
>>98292812Personally I'd have been happy with the old kits just getting upscaled to match their in-lore size. Supposed to be like 10 feet tall and just as wide - so the new sizes look nice, but the new details are just a bonus to me. Glad they didn't reinvent the wheel too far.
>>98293052That being said, it seems that Ogroid SoG was given a slight upgrade and his price rose by 60 points.
>>98293052I think the prices aren’t correct for some of the new scrolls because thaumaturge also went up 90 points from his last soggy scroll and he’s basically the same.
>>98292812I will stand on the hill that old mournfangs are by far probably the shittiest looking mounts from fb thus far and that’s including doom fire warlocks. Everything about the models look un-natural and not in a good fantasy way. Also ogres in general kinda looked weird by being so 2d looking, though I guess the iron blaster is still a really good kit despite it all.
>>98292729The Glutthorn is a regular rhino replacement
>>98293114
>>98293052230 is like sludgeraker/vulcha level points. it better be damn good for that muchbut yeah like >>98293073said its probably an errorhell, i called them out in an email to the aosFAQ hotline about how for seraphon the regular stegadon was MORE expensive than the hero stegadon and they just forgot to drop the regular versions points in that one patch where every other seraphon monster went down like 30 pts, and lo and behold after another month or two of waiting they got around to fixing their mistake and lowered it. i swear to god age of sigmars dev team must be like 2 guys in a closet having to share a single typewriter. the lack of proofreading and QC in this game is nuts. i mean shit remember all the army of renown errors to the point where they were just straight up non functional
never trust rumoursloppa
>>98293166why? that was accurate
>>98292812They just gave the thundertusks SoA scrolls, they're staying for now. I think the ironblaster kit is too.
Fingers crossed for Gravelords
>>98293169are you blind?
>>98293184Are you retarded?
>>98293183Someone redpill me on Vordhai's lore
>>98293166Anon...?
>>98293197He wants off Mister Bones' Wild Ride.
>>98293184What's your problem here? that the guy didn't leak an unblurred photo?
Speaking of blurry pics, there's still this one right? Is this the rumoured cannon unit?
>>98293272Its gotta be I think. Could also just be carrying a barrel donkey kong style.
>>98293272the female maneater special character, yes, otherwise there's no cannon unit
>>98293272>>98293282The maneater special character is supposed to have the artyllery piece built into her side, like a prosthetic, not be carrying it around
>>98293285I don't think that's correct
when are we supposed to see the "rest" of the ogor range anyways. I can hardly wait.
>>98293189that wasn't what the rumourfag posted - he posted the far right don't believe these bozos
>>98293285Her left arm is the cannon, the right arm is resting on a strapped pot that holds the ammunition
>>98293302with the hunters shown on monday we might expect more reveals on the following mondays, either every monday or every 2 mondays, I'm assuming the latter as that may create enough space between this reveal and the release of the armybox>hunters >>special >>big kit
>>98293285could be an UW thing, maybe not leadbelchers but a mini butcher carrying a cauldron of slop
>>98292706Yeah, but he becomes a Knight-Questor, so he'd probably just be played as that
>>98292011anyone?
>>98292706Veritants are almost the same thing
>>98293321I can't help you
>>98293346>>98293346>>98293321>>98292011nvm its on scribd
>>98293307yes, which absolutely turned out to be an actual modelwhat the fuck are you complaining about?
>>98293317I think hamilcar will return in 5th because recent references state a similarity to Sigmar, so he may be the figurehead of a faction of SCE after Sigmar has died. >Hamilcar barbarian heroes of justice >Astreia + Ionus seeking a cure >Vandus leading crazed schizo order warriors of chaos seeking to gain Sigmars favour from beyond the grave through the destruction of chaos
>Slaanesh heroes turn into wizards if beaten half to deathProbably won't be super useful but it's pretty cool.
>>98291886MESBG is the game that almost killed GW. The company was on a steady, sustainable path of growth in both its customer base, its revenues, and its profit margin all the way from the management buyout to the acquisition of the LotR license, and then everything went to shit; they got such a huge influx of custom due to the movies and associated marketing like the partwork magazine that it created a bubble, but Kirby was too shortsighted to hedge against that bubble bursting so when it inevitably did shortly after the movies stopped being the focus of the monoculture, it left them with fanbases for their existing games that had shrunk from neglect and a LotR fanbase reduced to just the nerds who would have bought a LotR wargame whether there were movies or not. All of the shitty decisions GW made in the oughts and tens can be traced back to Kirby desperately trying to salvage the headline figures for investor reports by burning the company's accumulated customer goodwill with costcutting and enshittification. The company bounced back only because of a combination of Rowntree's reforms and the pandemic.If they'd never have done MESBG, the company would likely have carried on just as it was without having to go through all the cost cutting, store closures, game cullings, deviantart phases, and other associated fumblings. WHFB would still be around, AoS wouldn't exist, 40K wouldn't be riddled with Primaris and Primarchs. We live in the bad timeline, Tolkienfananon.
>>98293444That's dumb, you're dumb, gw is not making a random writer's oc the figurehead of their posterboy faction.
>>98293509Anon, all characters are some random writer's OCs
>>98293501>gw games were neglected because gw was focusing on lotrthat's one weird delusion to have, alright
>>98293501MESGB is better than all other GW games, so its good it happened as it did.
>>98293501But AoS is based so we are living in the better timeline
>>98293509Anon, that's what they've been doing for years? Callis and Toll were basically the mascots for 4th edition and plastered over the core book, introductory promotional material, etc Flaming retard tourist holy shit
>>98293510miniature designers and lead fluff writers =/= freelancing randos for blacked library
>>98293519gw invented callis & toll it's not some random guys OC
>>98293526>it's not some random guys OCGuess who invented them. Not GW. but a guy.
>>98293522exactly that's like expecting gotrek to lead fyreslayers or drekki flynt ko
>>98293519Callis and Toll aren't figureheads or mascots of anything.Don't compare their use as introductory povs for >achtchually this irrelevant character will be basically sigmar now!
>>98293531Neither of them is leading those factions, anon.
>>98293529yeah but gav thorpe or someone not josh reynolds or nick horth >umm actually noah nguyen is actually responsible for AoS not the team that made it!
>>98293529Tbf Nick Horth is a senior Warhammer Studio writer whereas David Guymer is a freelancer
>>98293537yes they're irrelevant ocs
>>98293451>Slaanesh heroes turn into wizardsWhat no pussy does to a motherfucker
>>98293535I didn't say he'd be Sigmar, I listed him amongst Ionus, Astreia, and Vandus as subfaction leaders which btw he already is as a Stormhost head? Fucking tourist shut up.
>>98293559>castellant>questor>stormhost headyou keep vomiting one retarded shit after another
>he thinks some black library slop oc will get a model and serve as a leading figure in faction peak retardation
new bingo just dropped >thinking black library is relevant
>>98293576He's not a leading figure in the faction, he doesn't even have the kit fully to himself.
>ENTER THE NEW FACE OF SYLVANETH with that being said I would like a limited time model of Maesa.
>>98293599nta but Vandus' model technically isn't even his, that doesn't really matter
>>98293666that's why he's getting a new one like khul
>>98293108Hmm a Mexican with the correct opinion?Broken clocks and all that
did boc get its battletome before ogroid theridons became a thing in aos? If so what was the deal with minotarus and theridons? Did they have any dynamics going on between the two?
>>98293678>Did they have any dynamics going on between the two?Ogorids have nothing to do with beastmen, but look kinda similar leadign to them beign mistaken for one. This annoys them, because they have IQ of 105 while minotaurs have 45.Imagin if someoen threw a bannana at you thinking you're a chimp
>>98293674That'd be niceI have "his" old model and it's pretty cool too
>>98293604I fully expect him to be released for TOW under a new name while we get some new Kurnothi BL character
>>98293697Wood elves don’t wear mail retard.
>>98293666>>98293694Not sure what you mean, officially the Celestant on Dracoth is supposed to be assembled from the normal Dracoth kit, everyone just uses Vandus because he is much cooler.Unless you are referring to the fact that Celestant on dracoth from the starter is retroactively called Vandus the same as with Ionus and the Lord relictor from that box
>>98293697In a sort of roundabout way he already has been. Maesa was a nomad prince, whose generic model was just a recycled Araloth which had come out for wood elves like a year before AoS happened.Now that tow's back his model is back to being sold out araloth.Same thing happened to belegar becoming a warden king, but unfortunately for him his model is still sold as a generic king for tow
>>98293692I do not know what the first battletome says (which was developed later than WHQ) but Silver Tower presents them without much explanation and says they lead hordes of Tzaangors. We know the models predate the fluff by years for AoS and Silver Tower being a part of the 1e first wave suggests it could've been either way but leans towards them being part of Beastmen. They minotaurs in a maze (Silver Tower labyrinth).
>>98293701based retard
>>98293718This looks like something out of slaanesh
>>98293678goroans hate being mistaken for minotaurs or ogres.
>>98293722secondary
>>98293707Wait you've got a point, his model is indeed just sold as vandus on the store. Was that always the case? I got the thunderstrike brotherhood box (which is just a repackaged mighty battles) and the model is referred to as a lord celestant on dracoth there
>>98293730Now this Looks like something like talisman
>>98293739Cope all you want. They can just change it to scalemail but mail perfectly fits oldhammer aesthetics which they have celebrated with a bunch of new kits
>>98293738The characters came after. Khul is technically just some bozo too
>>98293749>oldhammer aestheticsAre we talking about Aos or Tow here?
>>98293763Alright yeah that makes sense
What’s the point of AoS in 2026? I know years ago there was no Fantasy so AoS had a legit use case but now Fantasy is back so it seems like AoS is a redundant setting and game. I know the obvious answer is the gameplay differences, which are significant. But AoS is basically just fantasy 40k gameplay wise. If you want the same gameplay 40k exists and is much better balanced and taken care of anyways. I think AoS had a good run, but it’s time to let it move on in peace imo.
>>98293707Vandus and Khul both had generic version using the same monopose model
>>98293791We have to have The Last Whimper first
It's up.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ed5uvcl0/scourge-of-aqshy-free-rules-for-the-forces-of-death/
>98293791>98293832Is there a new total war dlc or something?
>>98293845>Is there a new total war dlc or something?Yep. Uncanny how predictable they are, huh?
>>98293841Never dead seems interesting although I’m not sure how practical it is
>>98293841BCR should've been in day 1 ffs
>>98293877They're just not very subtle is the thing
So if I'm reading OBR rules right right, I can spend as many Discipline points as I want to give that many units +1 to Wound every Fight phase?
>>98293791aos wasn't made because fantasy wasn't around, fantasy was removed because aos was madethe point of aos was to reinvent gw's fantasy flagship game without what they considered the baggage that was keeping it down compared to 40k>the world is too small and simple for developments, new things, or for players to leave their marks so they made a larger sandbox setting instead of a earth-like world with a fixed status quo>the ranges had many old models and people don't get into the game because they didn't want to buy that many of the old core modelsso they made the army building way more free in what you could focus on, and removed or updated many of the old miniatures >some of the factions are way too generic and aren't as iconic and recognisably branded as 40k ones areso they removed the historical/traditional inspirations to focus on new weirder and proprietary concepts and designs >there aren't space marinesso they made stormcastsregardless of whether you see these as issues, they are in gw's eyes, and they are today as they were 10 years agothe difference is that now there's an added nostalgic value to the removed models, as well as extra notoriety from the licensed games, for gw to consider reselling the old models and stuff for the old setting, and that it now has to face new problems that this new aos setting development >the realms are too large and vague in people's eyes, enough to make them feel like nothing mattersso they're removing all the parts of the realms that don't matter and condensing the ones they're actually using into a more conventional, but still as dynamic, world>the age of sigmar ranges have to coexist with the old world ranges nowso they're updating the last of the old models and separating the looks between the two as they can, splitting focus>stormcasts don't sell as much as space marines and get flak for their cleanliness so they're trying to make them closer to what people respond to, that is grimdark
>>98293958>>the ranges had many old models and people don't get into the game because they didn't want to buy that many of the old core models>so they made the army building way more free in what you could focus on, and removed or updated many of the old miniaturesIn the years leading up to AoS most factions had their core units refreshed (with some obvious exceptions like tomb kings and their shitty skeletons), this really wasn't as big of a problem as people sometimes make it out to be. Whfb got constant releases. If anything, the issue was more that older players already had a full army and had no interest in buying another 40 spearmanni with ever so slight visual upgrades over the last iteration (if they even were upgrades, see empire state troops).Overall I think outside of rank and flank just being less popular in general I don't think gw HAD to go for quite so drastic a break with whfb as AoS, but on the other hand given the absolutely dire state of whfb at the time (and arguably the company itself too) I kinda get it.
>>98293987>In the years leading up to AoS most factions had their core units refreshed (with some obvious exceptionsthere were more exceptions than refreshed core units: high elves, tomb kings, bretonnians, the empire, dwarfs, orcs & goblins, lizardmen, chaos warriors... they ALL had painfully outdated models sitting at the core of their armies, some of those are still a problem now, and the updates that they got received boos specifically because gw was focusing on new units instead of fixing the two problems at the core of it all: army building was unsatisfying if not outright punitive to new players and anyone wanting to field the cool stuff of their faction, the models you were forced to buy were old and ugly.aos didn't manage to become successful because it broke out of the rank n flank gameplay, but because it removed the limits of army building so if there were models you didn't like you were no longer forced to get them, and if you didn't want hundreds of basic footsoldiers you could instead make a list around cavalry or monsters. that's what worked, not the fact the models stood on rounds in uneven blobs.
AoS became redundant because the rules are now an annoying clusterfuck with 20 pages of errata, which defies the original purpose.
>>98294022>wanting to field the cool stuff of their faction, the models you were forced to buy were old and ugly.Unless you were an empirefaggot and saw a Demigryph. Literally no reason to not like that model on an aesthetic or lore basis but you can bet they did
>>98294032Bold of you to ever assume GW has the ability to not do that in a game designed to sell models or would be crazy enough to think that themselves
Who's the biggest jobber in AoS?
>>98294066They managed to do it in second and even third edition.
>>98294060To be fair towards the end you had some weird designs like the oddly sleek gyrocopter (which stands out even next to kharadron), but you also had people whining about shit like irondrakes so whatever.>>98294074Any stormcast, or any immortal character for that matter. Guaranteed jobbery if you're immortal, see also orion gettiny btfo by random unnamed beastmen in tow.
>>98294074Kragnos is a failure all around
>>98293841I would say that these rules are more interesting than SoG but FeC warscrolls look boring
>>98294074Give me a named demon other than Belakor that achieved anything
Why do people say Lumineth are so hard to paint? Just prime them white and that's like 90% of the work.
>>98294099kairos breached the lizardmen cities in the great catastrophe
>>98294111Because white paint is hard to give volume to and the remaining 10% of the model is full of thin trims that will take hours.
>>98294111I almost made a very long, angry post about a particular person. But I deleted it.Lots of people who play AoS can't paint models for shit and aren't interested in learning how to paint properly. They understand "put contrast paint on it" and that's the whole thing.
>>98294111They’re harder to assemble than they are to paint. They can be tedious to paint because of overlapping details or placement of them, but tedious does not equal difficulty. And LRL doesn’t have nearly the amount of trinkets and “gubbins” people think they do.>>98294120They don’t have to be white. And Lumineths trim is so simply shaped and well defined, it’s one of the easiest trims to paint. I don’t do the trim on my armor but I do paint the robe/greatcoat trim.
>>982941114cucks have fat hands that struggle to hold a brush
>>98294146I'd love to see them
>>98294114Just say no anon instead of bringing up stuff unrelated to the topic
>>98294150I need to get another full army pic once I finish my Riverblades and Lyrior/VLROLC.
>>98294184>those diceI kneel
>>98294184beautiful stuff, anon, very clean
>>98294189They feel so good to roll, dude.>>98294191Thank you.
>>98294184Always nice seeing your guys, theyre lovely. I think you and that seraphon anon are the best painters in this thread
>>98294246Seraphon anon is great, I think the spite revenant posted earlier is also his.By the way crocodile git anon are you still here? Always liked seeing that guy's stuff but he stopped posting a few months ago, wondered what happened.
They can't write a decent zombie dragon scroll for soulblight to save their life lmao.Why is it not 400+ points with damage 5 and damage 2 attacks? The fucking thing is on a 160mm base. Literally a scroll for vengorian lord just below it where he hits more accurately.Sincerely believe there's some autism at play where they want the profile for it's attacks to be the same vhordrai's mount. Meanwhile they have zero problems letting every army returning models back from the dead.
>>98294280they have actually gotten worse at writing monsters over time
>>98294280People say that gw makes their new models op on purpose but more often than not I feel like it's the opposite for AoS.
>>98294280>Sincerely believe there's some autism at play where they want the profile for it's attacks to be the same vhordrai's mount.why would it be different?
Lovely Lumineth Ladies...
>>98294340fuck off back to /40kg/
OBR changes are actually decent and seemingly an acknowledgement they fucked up on the book. Unfortunately, the loss of the drillmaster's battle formation is gonna suck for non pony lists.
>>98293738They made him named after bringing the multipart kit of Dracoth guard with all the options
Question to people who buy modern gw models. How do you feel about seams like that which are in the middle of a model? >>98290600As a proonter I think I've just realized now that gaps like that would drive me crazy and so would filling them up
>>98294451All you have to do is make a notch in the peg of an ETB model so that the air has a place to go
>TOW models in the OPIs it over?
>>98294397
>>98294451You only really get those on etb models in my experience, which I don't really buy.>>98294459Worse, there's tow posters in this very thread
>>98294459tow models are aos models and aos models are tow modelsunless the models in question are stormcasts, kharadrons, or idoneth
>>98294482>tow models are aos models and aos models are tow modelsThey wanted to divide us, but eventually we realised we were all gay.
>>98294459Feeling better now?
>>98294510I reached the same conclusion when I checked 3D printing.
>>98294280Theyre pretty retarded overall in 4th edition. I'd fire everyone on AoS team and start from scratch bwith people who understand you can make a popular game with easy to get into system that has depth to master it.
>>98294482>unless the models in question are stormcastsYou would think so wouldn't you
>>98294619its T9A, it probably has an armylist for them
>>98294624Using em as ogres iirc
Stormcast make for better chaos warrior material than any iteration of chaos warriors do.
>>98294714Poor ionus lost his side hustle as a chaos lord on dragon
>>98294563No I'm scared
>>98294724He still gets to fuck the conehead khorne bitch
>>98294619the actions of a retard aren't going to change what I think
>>98294714Speaking of chaos stormcast, what's Eternus up to these days?
>>98294854He got featured in that one cartoon with black talon. Thats all I can recall.
>>98294854Playing baseball with Belakor
>>98288630 Clearly the next thing GA Destruction needs is a SoB cavalry unit
>>98294922Kragnos
>>98294922>it's a megagargant giving a mancrusher a piggyback ride
>>98294619Stormcast Renegades when?
I could have sworn this model had something lore wise that connected it to ogres, anyways the nu ogor range looks like it wouldn’t look out of place if it had this thing in it.
>>98295075That's one of the weird forge world monsters that don't fit anywher?
>>98295086Yeah dread maw or something like that.
>>98295075Not at all but I do remember seeing ogre conversions for it. They were just GA Destruction and Gutbusters didn't have a battletome so it was common enough to see Ogre players use them I guess? I always ran a Merwyrm with my Greenskinz tbhon. I'd run them + Hags and Fellwater Troggoths + Greenskinz I remember seeing an ogre standing atop one with chains posted a lot?
>>98294465Tell me this isn't a real video
>>98295112
>>98294465Maybe I am asking questions I don't want to know the answer to but "manosphere"? Is gooning political?>>98295112Man it's a shame forgeworld basically just became gw's old world and horus heresy wing instead of making novelty models. I wonder what kind of bullshit they would've made for aos. I think that (aside from unfinished whfb projects) we only really ever got the khorne dragon.
>>98295150Khorne was a WHF thing, the sequel to Tamurkhan. We only got Stormcast heads for AoS iirc
>>98295154erm, the sculptor himself said it was a strictly AOS model!
>>98295166Shart too for sure
>>98295154>he already forgot the retardedly huge khoregorath
>>98295188>khoregorathThat's an edited chorf thing.I'm obviously counting WHF as something started for WHF
>>98295196This looks nothing like a Chorf model
>>98295154>>98295166I think trish carden mentioned in a post somewhere that she sculpted the whole thing in 2017 or so, plus I think the next book was going to be tzeentch instead of khorne.Though it's entirely possible of course that there was some concept art or whatever lying around. I guess somebody could always just ask trish directly.>>98295187Honestly quite surprised they didn't give this guy a shoutout somewhere in the new chorf tome
>>98295219this does have more visual cues with 1e blades of khorne with all the skull pimples.
>>98295075I think WFRP connected them to Khuresh Snakemen
>>98295219Tourist please
>>98295238
>>98295244That looks more like a Maw Krusha than whatever the guy above is
>>98295244
>>98295246shut up newfag
>>98295246Nta but the face and pose is lifted directly from the kdaai, as you can clearly see >>98295238Though the arm blade thingies are obviously different in the final design the concept also clearly originates with the kdaai
That's it, I'm getting more OBRWhat units are fun to use right now?
>>98295248Why is the arm brown?
>>98295221Yeah it was at the 2016 open day if not earlier and unreleased until 2018, but it only seems to be the rider and his seat that changed since then.Their next campaign supplement was the Black Fire Pass one some people got to read a prototype of. I think that's where all the Orc and Dwarf stuff came from? It's a shame WHF was dying by then and people only cared to document the 40k side of open days really.
>>98294922In old Warhammer rules, giants rode mammoths
>We never got mini Maw Krushas as a unit bastards
>>98295419You can have one right now, not flying though https://johan_g.artstation.com/projects/3dWL9D
>>98295431>johan grenier holy based
I really wish they’d get it over with already and reboot the setting now instead of waiting for next year. Let’s jump into The Last World and start learning about it instead of wasting time on a setting we know is getting executed behind the barn
>>98295495nothing we're learning now is getting invalidated in the jump
>>98295495Did you run out of ChatGPT tokens to palet swap the ugly warriors?
>>98295495new thing good old thing bad
>>98295495Even just the rumor of TLW being so prevalent instantly put a damper on my plans to write out /dudes/ lore because I like my stuff to be able to fit into the setting as neatly as possible with minimal hand waving for their existence.
>>98295495They're focusing on Aqshy since that's going to be a majority of what's left.Shyish, Hysh, and Ulgu are all getting removed wholesale with no replacement areas in the new world map.Ghyran and Ghur will each have decently sized chunks to form new Jungles and Badlands.Chamon will have a minor area to accomodate the Duardin factions.Azyr and Eightpoints will remain as quasi-separate realms. These will be the nebulous 'heavenly' and 'daemonic' planes, respectively
>>98295540We know shyish hysh and ulgu and every other realms except for azyr is still thereStop talking nonsense. There's like 5 paragraphs of stuff we know and somehow you still managed to go against it with your larp
How's the new Scourge of Aqshy rules compared to the Ghyran ones? And what's stopping GW from just making these sorts of Realm rules for all of them at once?
>>98295526AoS was so open you could do whatever
>People really believe TLW is happeningIt makes zero sense and would not solve anything. It's not happening.
>>98295580They’d be better if they didn’t focus on the fury dice. Aside from that it introduces some interesting ideas but fails to deliver imo.
>>98295585And that being taken way too far is the reason we got “X from Chamon”‘40K conversions. I want my stuff to be believable within the setting. Not to mention AoS being so open is cope for the writers hand waving away fundamental aspects of worldbuilding.
>>98295588>all rumours from this source are correct >but this one absolutely cannot be
>>98295588Do we have to go over this every time
>>98295606Where are my cavemen ogors
>>98295608>>98295606how does TLW make any sense. Fantasy was the original world. AoS is the world split apart. Where do you go from there? World back together? Then AoS is irrelevant and a bump in the road. Plus Fantasy still exists as a game with TOW.Combine some of the worlds? So you still end up with more split worlds - solves zero problems, adds nothing to the setting, doesn't allow GW to do anything new and nobody will care.
>>98295610
>>98295620The single most prevalent complaint about AoS is the setting not being tangible enough. This is GW trying to fix it.
>>98295642These cavemen look like a dutiful knight in flesh eater courts
>>98295647The various realms are what make AoS unique and interesting. Merge them back and it's just forgettable generic shit. Besides, the amount of people who really don't like it is miniscule and "fixing" it won't bring anybody new.
>>98295647Those grogtards with a decade-long grudge are sure to bend the knee once Aqshy becomes Wissenland, but on Fire.
>>98295620This isn’t something people will want to hear. But it’s safe to assume that the Last World is them admitting to the AoS lore/setting being a mistake. You will see direct references to the Mortals Realms in 1st and maybe 2nd edition. And then after that the Last World will reference it less and less until it’s fully retconned that the Last World is just the continuation of the World of Legend and that Chaos did win the End Times but the world wasn’t destroyed just shattered into the Last World. AoS as a setting has failed to capture the imagination of a wider audience. Despite being around for over a decade, outside the AoS fanbase there are no lore nerds, YouTubers, video gamers, rpgs, cosplayers or other movements centered around AoS. Even fantasy has all these communities, let alone the juggernaut of 40k. So AoS is turning into the Last World to make it more like Fantasy as a setting, so they can appeal to a wider audience. It’s a money thing and nothing else.
>>98295672Keep the larp in the discord channel kitten
>>98295610Tbf that was always just people taking a "reject to modernity" comment too seriously
>>98295672introducing TLW won't solve anything. 40k will continue to mog and dominate everything in the miniature / wargame space, and especially among GW products. Do they really think that anything new will change that? And even if they don't think it can surpass 40k, it will never reach beyond what AoS has because it will just further piss off that fanbase.
>>98295620>how does TLW make any sense.GW understands that even after 10 years the reputation of aos is tainted and people either don't want or cannot wrap their heads around the realms.The initial sandbox approach has not been fruitful, also in how gw itself and its writers approach writing because they gravitated towards centralising everything that happens in the same locations anyway.The larger scope when it comes to gods and divine beings has also not found its mark, gw's writers and gw's fans are more or less already primed and trained for a different level of demigods of the likes of primarchs rather than full on gods.The last world is shifting the aim from what they may have wished to do to what they actually and realistically can handle and make to be handled by their sheep fans.It's dumb, and from the point of view of someone who doesn't have an irrational distaste for aos it appears pointless, but gw wants this shit to be eaten by their 40k whales too, so if the opinion coming from them is that stormcasts are lamer than marines because they are immortal so there are no stakes, it doesn't matter it that's actually true and neither does any logical argument about how no marine ever fucking dies anyway either, gw simply answers by removing stormcasts' immortality because they don't care about correcting people, they only care about getting their money.
TLW is typical GW overcorrection.>Fantasy starts dying>GW speeds up the process to make AoS>AoS launches in a shit state because they rushed everything, leading to low popularity>GW no longer cared about Fantasy so they let people make video games about them>The video games get big years later, giving Fantasy more (percieved) popularity>GW eventually notices this, decides to make TOW to try and capitalize on it>Despite AoS having recovered and now beginning to expand, executives scream that it needs to be more like Fantasy to bank off the percieved popularity>Enter TLW, to make AoS more like Fantasy while fucking up all the progress that had been made
>>98295672>1st and 2nd editionNot what tlw is retard.
>Making Aos into one map is making it more like fantasy People breathe oxygen in Aos, are they making the setting more like final fantasy?
>>98295743>are they making the setting more like final fantasy?If only.
AoS is changing because The Witcher, BG3, etc made money in licensing and AoS hasn't. GW made record breaking profits from Space Marine 2 so there must be a pressure to capture that for AoS. Plus, the original team is gone by now so it's expected that a change would occur?
>>98295672>And then after that the Last World will reference it less and less until it’s fully retconned that the Last World is just the continuation of the World of Legendnah, I believe the age of sigmar we know will stay very much canonical, just turned into the new age of myth, so references to it will be nebulous factoids like stuff referencing the end times and the old world are nowbut from a certain point of view it easy to imagine the end times and mortal realms as being lumped together as one transitional event between the old world and the last world
>>98295658I'm sure you know better than james, why not offer them a consultation?
>>98295784It is possible that the desire for a unified map was born from a plan to push it for a total war game, once the 40k one has ran its course.But it's a very superficial thought because we already have maps they could use and have armies go from one to another with portals anyway.
>>98295784If 40k is the metric of success, then nothing they do outside of that is worth pursuing. Nothing they do will make AoS or any other setting they shit out come anywhere near 40k.
>>98295784>AoS is changing because The Witcher, BG3, etc made money in licensingThats... fucking retarded. Sapkowski sold the rights to witcher ages ago, and noone outside of eastern europe gave a shit about first two games. And BG is 1 - already existing franchise, 2 - is from the DnD setting which literally noone gives a shit about, probably even less than AoS, because atleast people who engage with AoS care about it
>>98295811Why would that be a requirement for a fucking videogame? The realms being far larger than planets is a massive strength, you could have a random campaign generator where you fight in one of the 8 different realms every time, not just try to conquer the same lands with dozens of different lords.
>>98295811I think it's a more general pressure to imitate success. AoS is quite unique as a pitch but they're had no success with it, whereas 40k just made bank, has legitimate shows in the works, etc. If BG3 made so much money for Hasbro, someone must be asking why GW can't have even a tenth of that?
>>98295785I think TOW will become the HH to the Last Worlds 40k over time. I don’t think this will happen right away. I think it’ll be gradual, especially at the start it’ll be a Mortal Realms first type deal. But over time I see it shifting more into a HH/40k relationship with AoS as a setting fading further into the background until disappearing.
>>98295823>>98295824so true aos has only had licensing duds and they know how much engagement they get from warhammer plus but that's no reason to upend the setting gw are a company of gamers for gamers not profit seeking
>>98295824good procedural generation takes too much effort
>>98295839Yeah I think the biggest thing people need to understand is that GW doesn’t give a fuck about 40k, Fantasy, AoS or any other setting. They are all a means to profit for them and nothing else. They care about them as much as they can make from them. They’d throw 40k and space marines into the fucking trash tomorrow and never mention them again if they thought they could make more money by doing so.
AoS has literally already had mega hit gamesThey already have space marine 2 money AAA RTS on every system and in every store
>>98295827Does GW licensing work on royalties?
>>98295858>They had to give AoS license to people who make Zoo management simulatorsGrim to be honest, the models were really good tho, Kruleboyz parts of the story were genuinely nice outside of "generic fantasy game story"
>>98295870it's hilarious that they had to come out to shareholders and say they'd never do something like that again
>>98295876I assume you mean the video game guys here?
>>98295876That might have been the AoS IP’s lowest moment. Maybe ever.
>>98295859Yes. Space Marine 2 royalties was almost 10% of their record breaking profits that year.
>>98295883Yeah, they're stuck making management games forever I guess. One experiment and it's the biggest flop, 40m under expected profits or something
>>98295911They hit a peak of a little over 1500 players on steam. It was beyond a flop. Skaventide was a smashing success in comparison.
>>98295658I mean the realms being realms (as in the sort of pseudo-planets that they are) isn't something they do a whole lot with. It's more the themed region thing that will (presumably) stay the same given the realms just become continents instead.Though actually, is the tlw world supposed to be a sphere or a flat plane?
>>98295925It’s supposed to be a smashed up reworked fantasy map iirc
>>98295917AoS proper makes more profits every year, Skaventide was the best selling starter
>>98295940The idea is I think to have the realms be the new continents arranged in such a way that they mirror those of the old world. Hysh = ulthuan etc. I'm more interested in how the cosmology will work since up until now that's of course been heavily based on the realms gimmick. Like will we get a new sun? And again, flat plane or sphere. Flat plane makes the most sense I guess.
>>98295983I think we'll see both with the main regions being defined by the realms prolific areas and something like the warp for the realms themselves, where magic is drawn from and the gods reside within.
TOWChad and TWGOD here with divine wisdom: TLW just sounds like the foundation for an eventual AoS TW. Bonus points if they reverse it so Order invades through the polar gates.You all may now bow.
>>98296011Realmstone could be gathered from expeditions there which would explain Dawnbringers remaining
>>98295983spheresun is ignaxthe stars are fragments of broken azyrthe leftover parts of the realms that didn't assemble into the last world form empty planets and planetoids and asteroids in this new solar system
>>98296014>reverse it so Order invades through the polar gates.Thats already what happend/ is happening
>>98296014I don't know why the realms would even be a problem in a hypothetical tw:aos They would've just set that shit in aqshy/ghur/ghyran as always anyway.
>>98296021>sun is ignax
>>98295958Yeah we’ve all seen the selling fast memes. Them literally giving them away to anyone and everyone at Adepticon.
>>98296021>>98296036Ignax is free
>>98296041Do you belive that GW is interested in Starter boxes selling out at any point? Because by that logic Armageddon is a failure, which one cannot belive if they are of sound mind
>>98296041>memes it's actually illegal to lie in shareholder reports. The same reports cite expectations not being met for AoS licensing, but that profit records are broken every year for the game itself What a retard. If shitposting could warp reality like that you wouldn't be such a fucking loser kek
>>98296046Skaventide wasn’t a starter box it was a launch box. Like Armageddon or Leviathan. The starter sets that are meant to be evergreen come later down the line.
>>98296036If you'd told me this was AI I would have believed you.
>he thinks spamming selling fast means AoS sells less Secondary trannies are wild man
>>98296044it's getting chained again, its first capture was a test run because sigmar was already planning to use it as a sun in his eventual remaking of the world
>>98296026Yes but now we will retvrn to Mallus and reconquer the memberberry provinces and unite the realms (of huymenids and dwargen or w/e aos terms are).>>98296030Too nebulous. >B-BUTNope, I have spoken and GW wants MY money so they're going to listen to me.
>>98296056I remember an investors report from like 2013 or 2014 (chapterhouse times) that was like "2013 (or 2014) was a succesful year for games workshop, unless you consider making money as a succes", it was funny as fuck.
>>98296041>give them away for free>when you had to pay to get in >not even understanding that skaventide/spearhead itself caused multiple vanguard/spearhead boxes to sell out once the game caught wind which caused the overall system to generate sales even outside of the box set
>>98296062AI stuff looks nothing like this tho
>if I post about TOW again that'll mean AoS sales go down sisters! let's band together and kill AoS!
>>98296081NTA but if TLW rumour turns out to be true this won’t age well with TOW outliving AoS
>>98296107AoS won't die you git I just explained it. You(as in, me)'re getting Total War: Age of Sigmar - The Last War. GW is Mordheimening together a cohesive flashpoint for war game shenanigans.
>>98296117Screencap this post if you like. I am positive that 10 years down the line The Last World will have 0 references or official ties to AoS. They aren’t drastically changing the setting because it’s popular or it works anon. They are changing it because they think changing it will make it popular and profitable beyond what it is today. If they wanted to rehab the image of AoS they wouldn’t blow up the setting and start over in a setting reminiscent of 6th edition grimderp fantasy.
>>98296125>screencapYou aren’t that special dude.
>>98296125>screencappedYou are my special anon, and I will remember this.
>>98296125But they're not blowing up the setting
>>98296145>But they’re not blowing up the setting
>>98296162But they're not.There's not even any named characters dying (somehow). This is on par with whatever happened between 7th and 8th edition of 40k.
>>98296169>the mortal realms being removed and replaced by a single planet is equivalent to slightly larger space marines
>>98296185Did you miss the 8th edition 40k blowing up cadia and dividing imperium in two?
>>98296188No, it was an epic experience only possible in the Grim Darkest of Warhammer 40,000.
>>98296188slightly larger space marines were clearly more traumatic to anon than those
>>98296185They're not being "removed and replaced by", they're getting merged. "The last word" is still the realms.8th edition and its 'slightly larger marines' also permanently altered one of 40k's core themes of stagnation and decay, which is arguably of bigger consequence than the realms being replaced, even if that was actually the case.
>>98296225>Theyre not being “ removed and replaced “ they’re being merged You should like a yankee propagandist trying to sell the north winning the civil war to southern civilians
>>98296269What kind of schizo de-railing is this (get it? de-railing, because the south was a piss poor unindustrialized shithole)
>>98296269Why should I like that
>>98296275Hehe>>98296282SOUND LIEK OK FRIGG OFF YOU KNOW WHAT I WANTED TO SAY
>>98293501AoS is based and the minis don't look like they fallen asleep diagonally to fit bases two sizes too small, Primaris are ZILLION times better than chimpanzee armed trash squatting pose squatborn with proportions of 5 year old, and FB was brought back as TOW which pretty much flopped despite tons of money wasted by GW on it. Cathay is OK, I guess, but the rest of range is TRASH, AoS warriors mog spiky bretonnia with barely any chaos markings on their armor/weapons GW just shat out so hard it's not even funny...
whats the point of aks new terrain stuff? This somehow makes the basing bits that gw puts out look more attractive.
>>98296346actually nvm just realized they have scroll bits, this is a gold mine for me now.
>>98296332>as TOW which pretty much flopped despite tons of money wasted by GW on itCome on now anon let's not be retarded. Tow by all accounts is doing better than expected, at least at launch. I do think the nostalgiabucks have started running out and that's why they're pivoting to new releases.But tow probably cost them very little. All the r&d has already been done, all the armies already have a bunch of units, all the moulds were already there. As a product it seems very efficient.Though again, all of this is predicated on the willingness of old dudes to buy sculpts from 1993 because of nostalgia, and that market is only so big, and will only buy so many minis. You need modern sculpts to capture the total war zoomers.
>>98296346Got a link to them?
>>98293514>MESGB is better than all other GW gamesIf true, it's because GW doesn't ever touch it and dumb it down every 3 years.
>>98296353https://ak-interactive.com/product-category/ak-basing-bits/Its resin shit so you're actually just better off going to etsy in all like-hood.
Why isn't AoS more popular? Why do we constantly get picked on by TOW gods and 40k chuddies? We have better models and a better game.
>>98296349I expect TOW will have significant model refreshes across most if not all of the currently supported armies within 5 years. I don't imagine there will be many old models left by then and the ones that are old will probably be from around 8th ed of Fantasy. Then we get TWO fantasy settings with good models.
>>98296378keep this kinda behavior in /v/ >>98296380right and HH will finally release upgrade sprues for the marine legions.
>>98296380Good for them, the fact that GW still sells shit like this is insane
>>98296349The last generations of shortmarines was genuinely good even by today's standrds, kinda a shame they didnt finish the full refresh with those before primarisation
>>98296390I dont think the high elf models matter when they all have pinheads so they should take their time with that faction in particular.
Do you guys think Alarielle will get a model refresh soon? Her model is really ugly at least by modern standards and the stance on the bug is awkward as hell. Doesn't really match the rest of the sylvaneth aesthetic.
>>98296416shes fine. I think you might be kinda blind if you think she genuinely doesn't fit with the rest of the factions aesthetic as well.
>>98296423>Walking Trees>Tree spirits / wisps / Ghosts>Kurnothi>Random elf lady out of nowhere
>>98296380That sounds a tad too optimistic. It's been 11 years of aos and we're still replacing kits from whfb. To be fair, the first 5 or so of those years were more focuses on bringing out new armies than refreshing old ones, but still.
>>98296430>tree spirits of ELVES>Kurnothi with ELVES>said elf lady is half tree herself>Not even gonna mention all the bug riders
>>98296416Yeah that's not happening anytime soon anon.I think if any of the god models are getting a refresh first it'll be nagash, though that too is probably a ways away.
I do hope Nagash gets a new model where hes reincarnated as a human, with arkhan as his bodyguard or whatever. Kinda like what teclis has going on.
>>98296433True, but I think the difference is that AOS had to make every army from scratch, even if it was recycling a lot of older models. Every army in TOW has fully fleshed out armies and the only thing they have to do is refresh old stuff with the exception of Cathay. And eventually Kislev. Maybe.So I think that will make them move faster. I think that at a minimum we'll get a large scale refresh of TOW armies like Chaos just got at least once per year.
>>98296500bless your heart for not understanding how gw operates.
>>98296378I know this is bait, but AoS is where GW lets their modelers off the leash. Which is why there's an abnormally high amount of standout pieces, it's a LOT easier for someone skilled at their craft to make something great when they actually fucking enjoy themselves doing so.
I really need them to show off the big rhino model so I can know whether im gonna go with mawseekers or bcr.
>>98296572the big rhino is not bcr coded
I love living in Har Kuron.
>>98296378>>98296081Really not a fan of how this thread has just turned into inverted /wfg/
>>98297249Becayse here wfb retards beg us to buy (their) gw models instead of shilling 3d printing?
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>>98295811>once the 40k one has ran its courseSo a decade from now? Kek
>>98296125So Warhammer Fantasy was dying and had low sales?
>>98296399That's not last generation, that's 6th ed starter, kiddo. And if you're blind and don't see how this trashit literally has proportions of 5 years old (1:4 head to height ratio instead 1:7-8 adult males and primaris have), chimpanzee arms, and tons of other proportions problems (like hips of porn star with impossibly wide leg gap for male, or missing half the spine between pelvis and rib cage) you should go to eye doctor. Primaris inner companions mog this trash ANY day ending with -y...
>>98290600Pretty good for your first time. I'm not great myself but I'd say that they aren't necessarily over shaded so much as under highlighted
