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Surprise tarellian ambush Edition

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>>98293911

>Thread question:
You can pick one (1) of the units in your faction to get removed and memoryholed, which one do you pick?
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Yay new thread hahahaha yayyyy!’
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>>98299232
Dude bussy lmao?
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>>98299228
>TQ

Orks... nothing? I don't even hate the kill rig, even if the model is fairly shit it's just an excuse to build something cool that sort of fits the stat block.

Tyranids, I delete the Swarmlord, more for the lore than the model.

GSC I delete uhhh probably the Locus? I like the concept, I hate the model.

AdMech I delete the Archeopter. Really wish it could be the Castellans but the Archeopter is worse.
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>>98299228
>You can pick one (1) of the units in your faction to get removed and memoryholed, which one do you pick?
The desolation squad, just move those stupid goofy guns into the Orks
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>>98299228
>You can pick one (1) of the units in your faction to get removed and memoryholed, which one do you pick?
I want better Slayers. I don't like the part where they wear pants, especially long pants. Shorts or briefs size maximum. Make them something more grimdark like newly gestated clones who were seconds into their lives when sent out.
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>>98299222
Not really since things like GSC have like 2 players and usually end with higher winrate.
GSC are the perfect example as to why winrates are a shit measurement.
Since the guy play GSC at tournament level requires a way higher skill to play them than the guy playing for example marines. Since each mistake will not result in a couple of dead models, but entire parts of your army dead.
Also GSC require a lot more models than other armies, so there is another filter to the player base.
As a result the average GSC tournament player will win more often than the average marine player.
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>tarellians in the OP
>gay month is over
time to post aliens
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>>98299228
>You can pick one (1) of the units in your faction to get removed and memoryholed, which one do you pick?
>cheat pick
Graves on Foot
>srs bsns pick
Cadian Recon, these are not the Deathworld Vets I was looking for
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>>98299250
B-But muh dawi slayers that have pants!!! But I agree that less armor. They're miners thus it's understandable they have tech but removing them and replacing can change lore.
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>>98299256
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>>98299222
>it is
No it's not, because if it was it wouldn't be so out of wack all the time
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>>98299256
me on top
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>>98299250
They just had to overload on tubes
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>>98299228
>Surprise tarellian ambush Edition
Thinkin bout going into debt buying a bunch of Sigmar Sauruses and kitbashing them with Votann to make a Tarellian proxy army for Votann.
Planning to try a proof of concept making a squad of Beastmen for my CSM army out of hearthkyn and saurus models later this year to see how it looks. Like they're a warband brought along by The Enforcer in my Masters of the Maelstrom.
>TQ
Heldrake
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>>98299256
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Do you like Niggorks?
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>>98299266
For it to not be out of wack would require GW to pay close attention to the winrates, have a well-thought out framework for how to interpret them, and react quickly and competently with targeted nerfs and buffs to equalize armies
They dont do that so
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>>98299250
This. Votann should embrace Destiny.
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/twg/ tourist from /vg/ here, are any of you excited/scared/something else for tw40k? Signed up for the open beta?
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>>98299228
>TQ
Paragon Warsuits. I hate how the entire fucking army is warped around their auto inclusion. You're actively gimping yourself if you don't run those fucking ugly ass baby carriers.
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>>98299273
I like the part where the green mary sue inexplicably decided to settle them in a resource-less wasteland because past retcons said it was alike their home, instead of an actual good place to live.
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>>98299273
No
black-brown-red skinned orks only work when they're chaosfag mutants, and that's the worst kind of ork you could have because chaos is lame.
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>>98299266
StarCraft 2 has this same issue. They keep trying to balance the game with winrates.
And the difference in skills between the guy playing a couple of matches at the end of the day vs the guy playing as his job is simply to wide.
Even basic things like marine stutter step (basically making the unit that need to stop to shoot, no longer doing that due to your control of said unit) is a skill that take some time to developed and its not part of the basic commands units have in the game.
So when balance are made taking into account things like stutter step just mess up the entire thing. Since the guy playing casually now has been balanced like he some how knows and does stutter step regularly.
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>>98299277
not me at least
why ask here anyways
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>>98299277
Occasional /twg/ here that hasn't been there in like a year, I am not. Not just because I think it looks bad and unsuited to both TW and 40k, but because
>CONSOLE
>R
>T
>S
My best hopes are they focus on PC exclusively and the console versions are a corporate mandated afterthought, or it turns out to be Halo Wars 3 in a 40k skin. In other words, another CA style of RTS which isn't Total War just so it's at least decent or recognizable.
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>>98299274
And somehow we're then supposed to think an army is strong because of how everyone plays them? All levels of competence, all types of lists, bundled together in disproportionate quantities?

Tell me; how do you know it's a good metric in the first place?
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>>98299277
I was excited for fantasy, I'm not for 40k, it won't have the same following and it will crash and burn because ca is a different company today than it was years ago and because they decided to make 40k for consoles and that will backfire on them.
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>>98299285
Stutter step is a pretty bad example since its literally just alternating between right clicking and a-moving lol
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Ork philosophy gotta be the funniest thing to think aboutt in 40k because two Ork philosophers would start to argue that Squigs worship gork over mork or vice versa, only to settle things by asking a squig who do they worship, gork or mork? and then the squig just eats them instead of giving an answer.
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>>98299290
It's the only metric they have and such pretend it is a good one.
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>>98299295
What sort of antics would Diorkgenes need to get up to in order to be a worthy Ork equivalent to the human counterpart?
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>>98299266
>>98299274
>>98299285
As an occasional fighting game player, I'd add that balancing based on win-rates also doesn't account for when a player discovers some exploit or a low tier character becomes high due to players learning new tactics or how to play them right. Win rates aren't just skewed by playerbase but also then-knowledge. And it's clearly way worse for a tabletop game because buying, painting, and making a whole army is way more difficult and costly than buying a video game or at best the DLC for a character. Thus it's way harder for someone to transition to discovering it, which means if someone discovers an exploit or trick then it's not as easy as painless as everyone choosing the a new army on a game menu screen.
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>>98299290
My initial post did contain the phrase “general idea”
If, in theory, GSC were topping the charts, we could interpret that with the knowledge that GSC is a relatively difficult army, meaning that a low level player couldnt necessarily pick it up and have fantastical results just because of a high tournament winrate
If on the other hand Death Guard had a massively high, we would know that they are a relatively simple army to pilot, and if their tournament winrate is very high, that most likely means that they are simply overtuned
Thats why I said “general idea” and said that GW would need “a well thought out framework for how to interpret” the winrates
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>>98299295
>because two Ork philosophers would start to argue that Squigs worship gork over mork or vice versa
no, they wouldn't
squigs are squigs
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>>98299294
Reason why I mention it. It puts the balance so out of wack, because you are expected to do this when in the game you are just given the move or move stop and then shoot commands.
Stutter step is basically a commonly know exploit of the game mechanics and for some fucking reason instead of adding the mechanic as a basic one. They are balancing the game around people knowing and actually doing it properly
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>>98299304
That doesnt really happen in modern fighting games
Modern fighting games are heavily homogenized by system mechanics
You’re talking about oldhead shit like MvC2’s Juggernaut bug
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>>98299302
>behold! a humie
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>>98299245
>Swarmlord
>defies FTL travel paradoxes despite being a void in the warp
>muh mental connection enabling impossible physics that break the setting wide open
i can look past even the ridiculous "thousands of men die reloading a ship cannon" stuff in 1st and 2nd ed but this is just retarded
not to mention its so autonomous as to defeat the entire purpose of the faction
good pick anon
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>>98299310
Its not really an exploit though, every ranged unit can do it and its basically common sense that if you have time between shooting cooldown, you can use it to reposition the unit in the meanwhile
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>>98299262
That is SO hot
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>>98299315
Are you dense?
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>>98299320
No
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>>98299312
Melee still had changes in the past. Also, Twelve in Third Strike very recently had Gillstolemyride destroy people at tournaments including Chun-Lis and Yuns. There's also at the start of editions much like when a game just came out or right after a patch.
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>>98299307
Yeah but your theory would be full of assumptions that we know aren't true, like equal demographics, player types and skill levels.
It is extremely flawed and is mostly blind spots, hence why I don't understand why it matters outside of
>my faction wins more lol
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>>98299312
That's because modern fighting games suck. It's not just autocombos and other training wheel shit, the devs focus more on making flashy effects for Twitch or YouTube clips than core gameplay. This comes at the cost of fundamental gameplay.

Thankfully 40k will never get some flashy anime beyblade or build fighters thing or else GW will entirely focus on making flashy CG effects to wow audiences. The game would be worse than ever.
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>>98299327
Thirds strike is oldhead shit lol
A Hugo also won a major evo side tourney within the past year or 2
Its a game with a small community where skill still matters more than tier lists
Getting off topic a bit here though
I get what you’re saying but bugs are relatively rare exceptions to things like a tier list and they rarely make a dogshit character top tier, they just make a dogshit character useful for 1 niche thing
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>>98299302
He would literally duct tape 10 different shootas in front of a flashgit and go "behold, a snazzgun"
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>>98299335
The only assumption would be tournament skill level but that doesnt make the metric entirely useless
It still provides a general idea of how strong an army is when piloted properly by competent players
There is still some nuance involved that does require some amount of interpretation but that doesnt make the entire metric useless
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>>98299337
Essentially correct yeah I would agree
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I am now sad because I can't drink tea with boxing gloves on. I can't grip the tea cup right.
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>>98299340
>tournament skill level
i think the whole point if a tournament is that some people are better than others
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got inspired by the warboss kitbashes the last couple threads to make some modifications to my own warboss. do you think this powerklaw is low enough, or should I saw off more, so the klaw takes the entire forearm?
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>>98299354
Looks perfect where it is anon.
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>>98299307
Still useless.
Because unless you are testing the same army as in same list over and over again. You will end with fuck up results.
Like for example picture related. The only reason that combo was so strong is because the average 40k player in tournament just copy past list and have no idea what they are doing.
You could fuck up the mind rape combo by simply killing any of its component (it could not be done before turn two at the best of times) or just block with another unit.
The nerf it got really fuck it up, since outside the stacking combo the power on it self was meh
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>>98299282
Garrosh did nothing wrong.
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>>98299314
The nid hivemind is not a void in the warp, it is a shadow. The extreme amount of warp energy from the hivemind disrupts everything else warp related in the vicinity.
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>>98299350
But you are balancing an entire game on the results of some very dedicated people. And that skill does not translate well for the general population that plays.
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>>98299361
You dont have to like the winrate metric or tier lists or whatever but calling it useless is sloppy stubborn thinking
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>>98299354
I'd maybe bring it down to where there's just a little bit of the cuff of his arm bracer visible, about a quarter of the way to the elbow from where it is now.
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>want to buy some speeders for my midhammer marines
>they're either $100+ brand new or $60 for a piece of shit painted one
gonna go postal
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>>98299377
I should've bought a bunch when they were like $25 for a painted one. I never thought they'd bring it back though
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>>98299365
Thats an issue as well right
Pursuing competitive balance can sometimes feel shitty for non-competitive players
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>>98299282
We're complaining about WC3 being retcon now? God forbid the savage, unwelcome people settle in a savage, unwanted land.
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>>98299365
The skill levels of people entering tournaments still vary widely. You get some factions that are spammed by weekend warriors who have never even tried the latest balance update before this weekend and just want to get some games in right alongside semi-professionals who have literally been refining their list for months before the tournament. This is one of the reasons that win rate as a metric is fucking worthless because it does not account for average player skill level disparity between factions.
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>>98299365
I mean yeah, that's why I don't understand why competitive winrates matter in the slightest for us or the game's health.

I've seen enough esport to know it's fucking retarded
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>>98299228
>TQ
Barbgaunts
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>>98299388
Yeah fighting game tier lists are fucking useless too lol
Just because an easy to pilot character accounts for 45% of tournament entrants and just because 7/8 players in the top 8 are playing that character and just because grand finals was a mirror match of that character doesnt mean that character is actually good
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>>98299389
I think GW knows that win rates are not the only thing to judge what needs fixing by. Take dakka dakka orks for example. Even at their height they weren't actually winning that many tournaments and their win rates still were only slightly better than average. They were just overwhelmingly the way that most ork players were playing and it was creating a degenerate play style that people were creating a lot of buzz about how frustrated they were by and how unfun it was making the game so it got emergency nerfed after the second tournament weekend it was legal.
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I don't get why you guys think 40k is a game of skills
armies don't get weird win ratios because they have better players playing at the tournaments, they get weird win ratios because they have dumb op rules
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>>98299398
its just one guy who doesnt want to admit that winrates have amy value whatsoever
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>>98299398
and yet you still get the odd admech/death watch/imperial agents player who goes 5-0, damn idiot
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>>98299393
The Ryu effect in action. Almost never a good character but 50% of the playerbase uses him and he makes it to podium consistently by numbers alone so he eats nerf after nerf after nerf. Meanwhile Akuma and Ken will be right there and almost strictly better mechanically.
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>>98299350
Not quite. In casual games, the world's best players and guys who are still painting their first army are facing off against each other. At a tournament, it's safe to assume that every player is at least familiar with their own army to a reasonable level. Sure, there's definitely some warping from when a few high-powered players prefer the same B-list army and boost the winrate because they're good, but the numbers would be fucked up even more if John Nuhammer tripping over his own feet was in the stats too.

>>98299278
Not the Arco-Flagellants, the "Repentias at home (but just as expensive lmao)" unit?
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>>98299403
Look, just because Folger takes Imperial Agents to victory does not make them a good Army. He's literally one of the best players in the world and could win with almost any faction if he chose to and he only did that on a bet.
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>>98299403
it's almost as if you don't make statistics from outliers!
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>>98299408
Bro what are you talking about ryu hasnt made it to podium lmao and he is the best shoto right now
There was one player who used ryu as a backup alt in top 8 at evo japan but thats it
This is the 40k thread though we’re getting off topic
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>>98299397
I think GW only shows winrates because people are tribalistic about this shit. It's like football/soccer.

>>98299409
>At a tournament, it's safe to assume that every player is at least familiar with their own army to a reasonable level.
Why would we assume that? Is there a skill check at the door?
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>pilot
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>>98299417
It's like that one guy who only plays Drukhari and bumps their winrate up by 5% every weekend he plays because there's only a handful of people who play the faction anymore.
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>>98299377
They're 4 dollars actually
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/landspeeders-with-talon-of-the-raven-master-of-the-books-meta?__cf_chl_f_tk=lcHW5PwoB2HJkEu_PGl2w0fmhVCGLKEGNvCVCPZ3VjQ-1783097904-1.0.1.1-ngkOrxomn94KhcqPfbjfsVYk7G9LyXtzDg5EBLcEKeA
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>>98299426
that's shit that doesn't happen
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>>98299423
When was the last time GW actually showed their own win rates? I don't think they've had an article about it since like 9th Edition. Maybe one early in 10th edition just to show that they "fixed the balance" or something
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>>98299365
This. I've seen games altogether which get ruined because of disproportionate influence of competitive players. Including FPS.
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>>98299432
I don't know but I don't trust GW balancing anyway. Especially when they fail to retain good game designers by putting them into managerial roles when they want to be, you know, designing games?
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>>98299262
AvP 2?
>>98299354
Looks fine
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GW balancing is deliberately bad so you buy plastic
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>>98299432
GW cooks their reported numbers anyway. They're always suspiciously closer to 50-50 across the board than any other 3rd party outlet seems to calculate. Likely they don't remove mirror matches from their data or something other stupid.
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>>98299427
I do not like the look of 3d printed stuff when they're trying to carbon copy existing things and fail
the models hit uncanny valley for me
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>>98299302
>Bigtoe states what separates orks from ‘umies and the like is being green and strong, and then states being green and strong is what makes orks better than everyone else because Gork and Mork are greenest and strongest, and Gork and Mork are better than everyone else.
>Diorkgenes then paints a ‘umie slave bigger than Bigtoe green, and gets the slave to beat up Bigtoe while he’s speaking announcing to the crowd “Look, I found an ork better than Bigtoe!”

>Diorkgenes is bare naked, getting into fights with stray dogs and squigs using his bare hands, and getting scratches all over
>Some nobs see him fighting and heckle him, claiming he’s weak for struggling against dogs and squigs to which Diorkgenes replies that the fights with them are better and more fulfilling than any fight done with dakka and choppas

>Ghaz has heard of Diorkgenes, and although he believes Diorkgenes to be mad, he admires his intelligence.
>Ghaz hears that Diorkgenes is currently residing in the same ork town Ghaz is staying in for the time being, and he seeks him out
>Ghaz finds Diorkgenes sunbathing, and invites him to his tent, offering anything Ghaz can think of
>After Diorkgenes refuses everything offered (gear, dakka, good fights, ect.) Ghaz simply offers him food
>Diorkgenes accepts the offer of food, and asks that he provide it by getting out of the way of the sun.
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>>98299423
If you can look at what it means to actually join a tournament, the costs and the travel and the time, and not think "oh, this is for serious people who give a shit, if I'm going to join I should try to be good at the game so I'm not wasting everyone's weekend (including mine)" then the problem is that you have a humiliation fetish, and I hate to tell you but the amount of people like that is not statistically significant.
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>>98299470
Again I’m gonna bring up fighting games
People go to these torunaments all the time just for fun dude
Like there are people who are mediocre who will go just to play the game, see how far they can get, meet some people who also play the game, drink and hang out
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>>98299470
You're making a lot of assumptions about competitive players based on how you'd approach it.

Again, what are you basing your statements on? Experience or conjecture?
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>>98299364
>it's not a void, it's a shadow that's different because i eat worms
fuck off midwit
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>>98299489
Worms do be yummy af tho ngl
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>>98299489
nta but a void is absence of space, shadow is absence of light.

A black hole is not a void, it's dense mass but it absorbs light, for a similar thing.
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>>98299493
slow day?
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>>98299409
Nah the arcos have a niche as miracle dice bait and the models are at least better than the Warsuits.
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>>98299277
I'm signed up for the beta but it's probably going to be 3-4 years before my favorite faction gets added if they go by popularity + ease of adding (aka asset reuse)
>year 1 will likely be generic CSM and ad mech
>year 2 will probably be necrons, the 4 monogod CSM, and tyranids, maybe tau
>year 3 will be votann, drukhari, and whatever minor factions I can't think of right now
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>>98299493
Early bird niggas be like
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>>98299499
a void is an absence of matter
in the context of the warp, neither makes any sense in terms of physics definitions and both serve the same narrative function
again, fuck off midwits. shouldn't you be busy going "ohhhhhh maaaan" while you fuck up your fourth glue job of the day?
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>>98299489
>that's different
it is different because you're implying it's an emptyness while a shadow is cast by something
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>>98299510
>seething wormcel
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>>98299314
>>defies FTL travel paradoxes
no, it doesn't
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>>98299367
>>98299444
thanks guys, I chose to shave off just a little more to make it nice, and flush, and it looks really nice. I also cut off the hose, so now its just an empty tank.
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Got a box of Tac Marines still in foil for a few bucks today. Should I crack it for my Firstborn army or keep it sealed?
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>>98299511
a difference without distinction in the context of a non-physical space that the hivemind supervenes on
midwit shit

>>98299522
>no, it doesn't
yes, it does
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>>98299034
>>98299039
>>98299043
Thanks anons!
>multiple hobbies
Vidya is probably the most common second hobby after miniature painting for the warhammer 40k crowd but after vidya what are the usual other hobbies miniature painters engage in?

I’m thinking about getting into digital drawing so furries can finance me to pay Russians to buy and scan and clean said scans of warhammer 40k and 40k adjacent minis I want archived as stls.
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>>98299543
MtG is a natural hobby for any other TG hobby since it can be played in any agreed upon format between longer form games.

But most fa/tg/uys I know are starting to turn on it for the UB stuff and relentless commercialization.

I think 2D art is a cool hobby to pick up if you have money for a tablet or drawing pad, uses a lot of the same skills as model painting.
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I like orks :D
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>>98299543
>>98299551
That said, I just read that you plan to take commissions. Be warned this is extremely soul-sucking and involves pretending to be happy about daily messages from absolute freaks that would recoil even from 4chan's light. Doing art outside of a studio is essentially escorting for the first five years unless you're an exceptional talent.
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>>98299551
2d art sounds fun to be honest.
I think the lad who drew female primarchs also does a lot of miniature painting. He is very good at both and I’m jealous. I think the ability to 2d draw and being a “serviceable” miniature painter gives extra points in being above the usual 40k fan artists.
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>>98299474
>>98299481
Admittingly, I've never been to a 40k tournament specifically, but I have been to tournaments for other activities. Whatever game it was about, people who fucked around one afternoon a month did not care enough about it to drop a few hundred bucks for the ability to get up early and spend all day immersed in it. It was rare for someone like that to show up and they never had a good time when they did because this was when people let their WAACfag side show in full and noobs got eaten alive. Am I saying everyone there was a lifer master-grade pro? No, it was still mostly hobbyists who played between workdays, but it was hobbyists who took it at least a little seriously and often had done a bit extra for this specific event, and that made a lot of difference in the average skill level compared to your local pickups.
If WH40K tournaments don't follow a similar dynamic, I will eat my fucking hat.
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>>98299534
Which edition is it from?
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>>98299424
I thought the same thing. Metagame knowledge systemization is a curse worse than the one imparted by the fruit of Eden. By 3026, every field will just be a couple tool-assisted autists sitting in a lab and millions of drooling retards bragging about how good they are at piloting.
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Do you think if you act Orky enough the orks would find it funny to keep you around and not kill you
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>>98299603
that's the logic behind diggaz, yes
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>>98299586
7e I think - the blue box with a kino logo.
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>>98299603
they'll krump you for not being a good slave that works itself to death and becomes squig food after all his value is spent
on the other hand, if you're a human baby then they'll get all sentimental and raise you to be an ork in a summer blockbuster coming-of-age film that's fun for the whole family
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>>98299612
Eh that can be opened without much regret
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>>98299603
there’s an entire rulebook supplement based around this concept.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98299568
Fair enough.
Are you speaking from experience having made warhammer 40k fanart and then decided on commissions?
I think I might get pulled into a lot of drama because I’ve been using an old Roblox username when I was in warhammer 40k roleplay groups for it. Before then I was in world war German groups due to wanting to play bad guys so others could be the heroes they wanted to be. If that gets dug up without context I’ll be in for a lot of online shitkicking with warhammer 40k social media regular autism thrown in.

It doesn’t help that astra militarum is my main 40k army. But I think I was born to be one as I wanted humans to win in the first avatar movie I saw when I think I was 10 years old so the groundwork was set for me to be a proper 40k imperial guard fan.
>change username
My autism forbids it because it takes me back to a better time even if the name is cringey.
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Singling out a Warp Spider™ out of the squad to shade his asscrack with a big brushful of Agrax Earthshade™ so the entire Aspect Shrine™ knows he can't wipe his ass.
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>>98299630
in short, yes
also username rotation is very healthy and i highly suggest getting used to it unless you're trying to build a brand - in 2026 the internet is full of weird mentally ill stalkers with technical ability that run niche sites and capture your info to save and reference if you ever cross them - also speaking form experience here
so much youthful energy in this post
i'm sorry for what the world is going to do to you
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>>98299629
my fat ass thought those tits were naked from the thumbnail
>>98299626
>still no digga units in orkz yet
I remain... squatted....
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>>98299228
On my knees do I beg to the emperor for an anon who doesn't need his Thousand Sons codex code to pass onto me so I may scan it in the app.
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>>98299476
Noticed blades immediately as the first thing kek
Didn't see rest of a Lictor though
cool
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>>98299543
I know people who do digital drawing for that space. The furry art market dried up after the coof. For all the jokes about "suspiciously wealthy furries", the big spenders were actually affording it via cheap credit that doesn't exist anymore. At least you aren't doing what my stupid ass did and getting into 3d art.
That said, your past chuuni bullshit won't matter unless you get big, which is at least a few years away, more likely "never".

>>98299640
I hate to tell you but he wants to be able to play his army next month when we're 12 balance patches in the future.
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>>98299228

I want a playable Tarellisn army.

But I don't trust modern GW to do it justice.

So I'd have to convert models and play using Orks instead.
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Damn, crimson fists look good.
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>>98299638
>world is going to do to you
A lot of the bad things are because of my idiocy. I feared being cringe and wanted to just set pursuits aside as I just wanted my education and degree as top priority because upbringing.
Worst thing it did was dry up my creativity to come up with a new user/brand name.
>>98299668
>furry well dried up
How? What fandom do I gotta appeal to will allow me to finance my plastic warhammer 40k crack now?
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Newbie here, starting to build and paint my 1st army. Found out for tourney purposes you actually have to paint/add shit to your bases.

What is the bare minimum you can do, to not be penalized 10 points? I was thinking I'd just draw the faction symbol on the base, is that good enough?
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There's never been a good space marine recolor
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>>98299603
aside from diggas, in the old lore, freebooters and blood axes would be completely alright with working with humans as long as they weren’t (openly) part of the Imperium. the idea being that human adventurers taken from non-imperial worlds are a blank slate, and the random loaded human adventurer who’s totally not an imperial glowie (wink, wink) giving them lots of teef to defend imperial worlds is cool.
>>98299639
sadly, it appears they’ve slowly been removing ork-‘umie relations, its been a slow decline.
>yeah, the imperium often interacts with some orks to use as a buffer between them and the rest of the orks, and they often have glowies on the field with orks acting as advisors
>yeah, the orks can be alright with humans as long as they’re openly gork and mork worshippers
>yeah, orks can cooperate with humans for very short periods
>yeah, orks only interact with CSM as allies of convenience
>no, any ork-‘umie relations at all are exceedingly rare, and must be through long distance coordination rather than face to face interactions lest the ork go into a retard rage
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>>98299689
PVA glue and sand.
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>>98299639
Why would Diggas appear in the greater galaxy alongside Orks when they're limited to a single planet? Like not, "they never leave their planet", but "They are specifically a thing on Angelis/Gorkamorka only". It's like asking for Necromunda gangs to be added to Agents of the Imperium.
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>>98299638
I forgot to ask.
What got you into drama over drawing? How did you pull out of it?
Was it over a verboten warhammer 40k opinion?
And lastly how old were you when you started learning to draw then digital draw? I gotta learn to draw to communicate to stl sculptors what I want models like weapons to look like for my 40k conversions when I can’t find the warhammer bits I’m looking for.
Or to use as reference for when I give up and decide to learn blender.
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>>98299696
>nta but
>beach sands too powdery
>bird sands that made it to Canada too large
This is an opportunity to create pre-mixed sand batches for basing the minis though.
What’s a good ratio of coarse sand to fine sand in say a plastic sandwich box?
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>>98299709
Why do Space Marine chapters appear all over the Galaxy when they mostly only recruit from one planet?
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>>98299721
This is about the dumbest false equivalence you could have come up with.
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>>98299721
They receive distress calls through the warp, and have a bunch of sowrn oaths and obligations and shit.
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>>98299729
it's really not, there's no real excuse for Astartes to run around the entire galaxy when they all have very specific domains they're sworn to protect, they just do because it's more cool if they do
Hence, it's more cool if Diggas show up in more palces than just Gorkamorka
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>>98299510
>in the context of the warp, neither makes any sense
The tyranid interference blocks/absorbs the "light".
>glue
Sniffed it all yesterday
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>>98299711
Most of the e-drama that follows people comes from broken friendships. You confide in an trust the judgments of others and get into a clique or a way of life that generates a lot of friction. Eventually people break up and all of the things you said or did in good faith are now recharacterized by people who have black-and-white thinking issues combined with a lack of earnest insight into moral failures and from there it really depends on how good you are at reputation management. If you play your cards close to your vest and stay true to your values, you'll probably be fine. Most importantly, never trust an e-girl with anything.

I started drawing when I was like 12, moved to digital at 18. Never became good, I can do rough mockups that don't provoke ridicule, but I'm never happy with any final products. A lot of my commentary on the sales side comes from knowing other people who are more prolific in niche fetishes and sell a lot of content, then complain to me about what's involved.

As far as communicating across disciplines, you'd be surprised how many people are receptive to pencil sketches on paper. Most people who can assemble models are probably broadly competent enough to express the geometry of their ideas that way.
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>>98299689
Goblin Green + Flock.
Embrace tradition.
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>>98299675
>CF look good
Always have

Fuck I hate these modeled in effects, feels childish and cartoony. It's not really a problem of their presence, because I like dioramas with some effects, but it's the way it's done. Very generic and flashy.
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>>98299754
Pyw
Im curious
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>>98299681
The issue isn't one of fandom, it's one of economics. As in, "we've been in an effective recession for the last five years" (all market growth since 2021 has been AI investing), and this is affecting how people spend their money. Whatever works now would have worked better in the late 2010's. Basically the only viable strategy for new people these days is to get some specialized technical or artistic skill that the average Brazilian favelamonkey has trouble replicating. I leave it up to you to find one. There was also the option to pick up a second language and go to the second world to either find customers or rare skills, but a certain monkey president fucked that route up too and now they're in even more dire straights than we are.
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>>98299709
I don’t think its logistically possible for diggas specifically (though nu-lore makes plenty of retarded leaps anyway), but surely with orks so prominent around the galaxy, there’d be plenty of human cults dedicated to gork and mork, and orks who would humor them just as well. there’s also human mercenaries who would work alongside orks tolerant enough to take them.
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>>98299751
ah yes, the """light"""
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>>98299763
no, sorry about your slow day but i can smell you a mile away. you give off a particular psychic residue.
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>>98299754
>broken friendships
I felt that. Had to leave a group and a lot of no context stuff and good intentions of tough love will be misinterpreted.
They did get a lot of taste about my autistic fixation with 40k.
I think the group just grew incompatible. But I could be the asshole the whole time I’ll never know to be honest. Remember my words have a bias.

>started drawing at 12.
>got into digital at 18
Well I’m ten years late to the digital drawing party then. No better time like the present to draw some warhammer 40k fanart and get eaten alive by the social side of fan art consuming warhammer 40k secondaries.

What do you mean by playing my cards right? Just do nothing and say nothing or feign ignorance? I don’t like lying to be honest. Little lies get out of hand fast and I’ve been a chronic liar and it’s a habit I gotta break.
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>>98299675
The overly smooth gradients of airbrushing always look like fucking garbage. Reminds me of amateurish graphic design.
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>Bike Meta for Dark Angels
Is it just me, or is the shit you can pull running around the map with rapid fire plasma kind of the shit?
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>>98299783
>I actually like when my gradients are shitty and uneven
Lmao
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>>98299781
Was just curious? You dont have to just wanted to see since you said you were decent
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>>98299709
>>98299748
>orks decide to take diggas off gorkamorka in ships
>diggas spread the good news to human slaves everywhere they go
>soon “diggaism” spreads across the galaxy and more humans start painting themselves green to fight for the orks
bam, problem solved.
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>>98299689
Basing is super easy, it looks intimidating at first but if you want to do the bare minimum you can just slather on some texture paste, apply a drybrush on top when it's dry, and glue on a few tufts and call it done. If you want to get even simpler buy some 3d printed bases and just glue those on your bases if you haven't attached your minis already
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>>98299748
>it's really not, there's no real excuse for Astartes to run around the entire galaxy when they all have very specific domains they're sworn to protect

You are being disingenuous as fuck and I'm not going to engage you.

>>98299773
Thank you for at least attempting to justify pseudo-Diggas instead of running to the most moronic false equivalence possible. I still think it's a stretch, I acknowledge such cases certainly exist but I doubt they persist amongst the greater Ork population in sufficient numbers to justify tabletop representation (but please let's bring back Gorkamorka so we can have new models for it anyways).
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>>98299787
Nice strawman retard.
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>>98299754
The fact that you treat "not liking the final product" as a problem tells me you didn't actually get that far in, because once you get good you realize that never actually goes away and you just learn to live with it... or give up.
So I guess in that sense you quit while you were ahead.
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>>98299794
>NOOOO THE GRADIENT IS TOO SMOOTH I’M GOING INSAAAANE
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>>98299779
Yeah, light, you know, like energy?
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>>98299788
I said I could produce rough mockups that don't produce immediate ridicule; I don't think of that as decent, but if you really must I'll scrub one down and post it in whatever general is up when I get my tablet back.
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>>98299799
It looks ugly as fuck, you have to have no artistic eye or aesthetic taste at all to think that's good.
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>>98299788
Maybe he has a schizo stalker who might know he uses this place.
There’s a reason why 40k model posting is kind of going out. Because of schizo stalkers.
I did have a lad recognize my models irl at the lgs. He said he saw my models online before and having never posted my 40k anywhere but here it stun locked me and I lost my spaghetti and sputtered out a “t-thanks.”
Luckily he didn’t have malicious intents.
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>>98299629
Grey Knights too, may they get some Getter Guts!
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>>98299796
You're right in that - like I said -I'm a hobbyist, but not for that reason. It's weird to think perfectionism is something that only lives in art, as though I wouldn't encounter that problem elsewhere and learn the same lesson.

Whatever unmet desire for competition this is coming from will have to be answered elsewhere though, I don't really care if you're better or worse than me at drawing.
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>>98299754
This. 100% this.
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>>98299540
There is a distinction: the tyranids are not blanks, they're powerful psykers whose own psychic screaming drowns out everything around them.
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>>98299812
>THE GRADIENT IS TOO SMOOTH!!! I-IT JUST LOOKS LIKE SHIT OK?
rumao
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>>98299816
Fuck off.
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>>98299814
Bingo bango bongo. The internet is fucked, needs an enema to clean out the failed normies who think they're e-cops.
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>>98299787
He's actually right tho
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>>98299655
it's the perfect horror sequence
>wow, cool jungle
>wait that's a talon
>wait that's a hidden lictor
>OH SHIT HE'S NOT HIDDEN
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>>98299814
>There’s a reason why 40k model posting is kind of going out. Because of schizo stalkers.
>I did have a lad recognize my models irl at the lgs. He said he saw my models online before and having never posted my 40k anywhere but here it stun locked me and I lost my spaghetti and sputtered out a “t-thanks.”
This is exactly why I keep telling people we need to shut down the subversive trash that demands you post models in the midst of an argument. All you're doing is opening yourself up to getting hounded by schizos. Posting models is fine in a disconnected post not attached to any other discussion, no argument reply chain, just "hey look what I made", but if some fag is being hostile and you beat them in an argument they will try to get you to post models so they can stalk or dox you.
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>>98299476
EXTREMELY fucking cool
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>>98299808
Nah I mean if youre not comfortable with it its all good anon I was genuinely just curious about your work, I like art
If you care to, please do, if not its all good
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>>98299476
AYO YT BOI GIMME DATS TOY
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>>98299848
I'll scrub and randomly post some sketches sometime in the next few generals without context. Best I can do.
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>>98299814
I mean, I wouldn’t even give a fuck
I would just be like “oh you go on 40kg too? Lol”
I don’t personally have any reason to care
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>>98299837
I just randomly came to this general for the first time in like 6 months and this is the exact same thing that was going on when I left. Lmao.
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>>98299837
>Doxx you
Honestly a pretty benign outcome. The smart ones stay quiet and surreptitiously email your employers from burners with a dossier of your greatest hits. Good luck getting out of that without ruining your life trying to explain it to people.
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>>98299837
You dont have to post models upon request lol you can ignore retards or even fuck with them for the lulz
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>>98299314
>>defies FTL travel paradoxes
all factions in 40k have FTL travel and communication, if they don't the setting gets ridiculous in the non-entertaining way
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>>98299871
Employers dont open external emails, especially not ones with attachments
Its part of basic cybersecurity
This narrative of schizos in a toy general having the capacity to get you fired ruin your life is retarded
I could literally post my supervisors internal email address right now and none of you would be able to contact them in any meaningful way
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On the topic of modelposting, where's the latest collage?
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>>98299882
im unemployed btw
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what the fuck is terrain foot prints? did they change terrain?
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>>98299882
This is retarded. Almost every company has an HR department that a person can easily access via phone or email, a monitored info email address, LinkedIn exists, mom & pop stores exist, starting a conversation under false pretenses whether its vending services or applying for jobs, etc.
You have no theory of mind and think everyone is in your exact circumstance and then shit it out all over the boards. Stop.
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>tq
god i hate this fucking thing
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>>98299228
>Thread question:
tactical squad
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>>98299912
It's weird there's people who unironically think this dogshit is good and looks good.
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>>98299912
so did whoever designed it based on its extendo-dick
come to think of it being a technical designer at GW is probably pure pain, imagine the suits they have to listen to all day
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>>98299882
>trust me anon it is perfectly okay for you to provide me with information I could use to make you lose your job, your employer won't open the email, it's just a made up narrative
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>Go into local GW for the core rules booklet
>Just shooting the shit with the manager and some grogs all painting their new orks i go "you ever notice theres no word bearer models in 40k at all and nobody ever talks about it?"
>Manager stops painting his ork boss, squints at the chaos section across the room and goes "....huh".
>Grogs follow suit.

I get Thousand Sons have sorcery on lockdown and in general Black Legion exists for undivided stuff but considering what a big range they have in Horus Heresy it is a little weird they just don't seem to exist right now in 40k like the Legion of the Damned or Hrud right?
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>>98299881
almost all of it relies on warp magic that explicitly doesn't care about nonlocality or some other kind of spacetime folding to achieve either near-FTL or exact speed of light iirc, was this retconned?
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>>98299912
I unironically love this model and don't understand the hate. AdMech is supposed to be weird.

The dogs suck because they're all rounded and shit but this guy is kinda cool.
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>>98299822
that's still not what a shadow is, nor is a blank called a void
so we get metaphorical, and at that layer the distinction disappears
no way you pitch this comes down to anything other than semantic preference
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>>98299929
i like weird admech, but theres so much more creative shit you can do with a sniper then gluing stilts to someone
even just slapping it onto the chicken legs wouldve been better
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>>98299926
That's because much of the generic Chaos stuff painted as Black Legion is really intended for Word Bearers, you just need to paint them differently. It's like the difference between Ultramarines and Imperial Fists is whether you used blue or yellow, the vanilla models ARE their look.
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>>98299919
It's audacious in its (((them)))ery, the leaks made them so brazen.
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>>98299934
>nor is a blank called a void
yes, it is, in a sisters of silence novel
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>>98299909
>dude this guy posted his plastic toys and he said the n word see look heres a shitty picture that looks maybe slightly like him
On an anonymous imageboard in the era of AI you can just deny it and be fine lol
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>>98299939
Thats kind of a shame when HH stuff has them appear in crimson regular space marine Mk3 or whatever but with diablo ass looking runes carved into them. After we got the chaos pirates a few months back it would be cool if they are the next chaos expansion and expanded on that one sorcerous detachement everyone runs them as for the RP.
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>>98299934
Man you're not even good at your own choice of autistic fixation.
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>>98299942
so it sounds like terms for these things are fungible after all
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>>98299929
Agreed he's fun and weird.
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>>98299952
Personally I would like if we got more upgrade sprues for all subfactions, yeah, but Word Bearers are probably bottom of the priority list since they just don't need as much beyond a paintjob to differentiate them. Meanwhile you have Iron Warriors who mostly use different armour and needed that upgrade sprue, and Night Lords who even moreso use very bespoke armour with batwing helms and shit and so they got that whole Kill Team sprue.

Granted, if GW decides they're going to release a Daemon Primarch Perturabo model, then Lorgar probably isn't far behind since he would be the only remaining one not to get a model, and that would probably come with at least an upgrade sprue and maybe another named character or unit or something.
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>>98299928
all factions including tau and tyranids and necrons have faster than light travel, and tyranids specifically use space magic for ftl communication.
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I'm not getting myself mired in this autistic argument about FTL warp magic shit but I just want to say the Swarmlord has always been fucking retarded nonsense lore that most long-time Tyranid players despised from its very first appearance in 5th edition.
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lol NERDS
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>>98299964
>so it sounds like terms for these things are fungible after all
not for tyranids, they're not blanks or voids
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>>98299969
>T'au
>FTL
god what happened to this setting since last i looked
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>>98299912
This is what all Western models look like to an import model builder.
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>>98299980
meant for >>98299969
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>>98299984
because you said so, got it
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>>98299985
Tau always had FTL even in 3rd edition, anon, it's just the weakest and slowest relative to Warp and Webway travel. If they didn't they couldn't even be part of the setting at all.
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>>98299967
>GW when they realise they could have just sold transfers of cult runes to put on regular space marine armor 8 editions ago.
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This entire game is so fucking gay now. What the fuck happened to blast weapons actually using the blast template. BOOO GAY.

"But you see, it is now baked into the number of shots... and for every 5 models that unit" BOO YOU FUCKING GAY SHITS.

Why does everything have to be shit nowadays. Even 40k has to be gay shit.
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>>98299985
Nothing, you were just never paying attention to it in the first place.
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>>98299982
>discord raid
Alright, back to painting models. Enjoy ruining the space.
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>>98299912
this shit ass but id sooner obliterate electro priests so we can retry getting an actually good looking cult mech tech priest infantry unit
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>>98299994
Shitters got too salty about Plague Marines.
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>>98299994
You know what was gay? Being pushed to autistically spaghetti out your units to avoid blasts.
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>>98299985
Tau's whole thing is rapidly advancing technology
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>>98299994
Yeah modern editions are soulless as fuck. I only stick around here to discuss lore and models, I don't play with the new rules.
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>>98299990
>>98299996
The ZFR came before the Ether Drive and was near-light you triple niggers.
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I will be honest with you guys, 11E is enjoyable. With all the 10E content usable in 11E with almost no tweaks, it's finally fun. If we only had PPM and wargear cost, I would call it a good wargame in general, not just by GW low standards.
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>>98299980
Pathetic ass post lmao
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Did a few test models for my Orks, spent ~1 hour on each one. How do they look?
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>>98300007
Glad you’re enjoying it anon
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>>98299988
Because nothing ever called them voids, or described them as such, or compared them to blanks.
You cannot take the fact blanks get compared to warp voids as vindication for whatever dumb headcanon you have for tyranids.
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>>98300000
Checked and extremely redpilled
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I want a Necron Flayer HQ unit and rules in WD like we got for Destroyers and i am not only asking, i am demanding.
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wet palette keeps getting moldy
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>>98300009
pipe down lil bro nobody asked
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>>98299675
Discount Ultrachads
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>>98299889
>>98298990
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>>98300006
And tau already had nicassar and kroot ships with FTL warp travel.
The problem here is not that you don't know shit, it's that you don't pay any fucking attention.
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>>98299994
>Crying because he can't finger his blast hole in front of men any more
>Calls other gay
LOL
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>>98300003
Except that's actually what real military forces do, they move in dispersed formations to lessen the threat of grenades and artillery causing more than 1 casualty at a time.

>>98300010
Not too bad, I would add some yellow staining to the teeth, they look a little too pearly white for Orks, and go a bit easier on the Nuln Oil or whatever dark wash you're using in the future, but these will look good in a big mob together.
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>>98300013
>headcanon
Using an equivalent metaphorical descriptor for an imaginary phenomenon isn't a headcanon. Spend some time playing games and you might know what words like headcanon actually mean.
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>>98299980
this nigga got a thesaurus
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>>98300028
that's not what 40k forces do. And even real world armies definitely don't do it like was being done in game.
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>>98299980
>>98299974
Oh shit nigger are you trying to roleplay as the decalfaggot or is it coming natural to sperg out like this for you?
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>>98300032
nta but what word in that short paragraph threw you?
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>>98299994
>I can't employee abstract thinking and need to put a small plate down on top of people's models.
Very woman-like, you must be a proud tranny.
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I'm gonna do my Blue Archive dailies and when I get back you fucking autists better have moved on from arguing about this useless shit.
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>>98300007
If only list-building was even more annoying and min/maxed lol
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>>98300025
>FTL WARP travel
>WARP
you might want to pay attention to the conversation you're participating in before insulting anyone else, even ignoring that you're now appealing to their vassals
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>>98300018
stop licking your brush
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>>98300044
Hey man no need to be so negative about everything
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>>98300000
Holy checked.

>>98300003
Go play a fucking video game.

>>98300001
I understand that when you are a large company and you have HR departments filled with women and browns it is hard to create things of value, and it is easier to change the rules in order to change the meta, but they could at least preserve some things that were functional.

HOW DOES A BLAST NOT BLAST?!

>>98300005
When did this cancer start. Last edition I played was 7.

>>98300027
Its only gay if women are involved. It is perfectly straight to finger your blasthole infront of other appropriately aged men so long as everyone is enjoying the hole fingering.
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>>98300057
heh yeah sure dude, I’ll be sure to tell my mom all about that! Pfft
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>>98300010
i like the checkering on the pauldron, i mean it could be a little cleaner but it looks orky without being messy

not sure the brown in the knuckles works for me tho
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Bring back points per model then reduce capacity of every transport back to how they were before characters became bolt-ons. Also allow everything to have unlimited squad sizes. Sell a ton of infantry battleforce boxes and then buff blast weapons.
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>>98300061
your mom won't care whereas my mommy loves me and would get me a special model of my choice for my internet victory
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>>98300030
But it's not equivalent, that's why it's headcanon.

But let's make a step back: what problem do you have with the swarmlord exactly?
>he's all over the place in the galaxy
the hive mind digests it in one place and respawns it in another, if it's not actually spawning more than one so he can be on different planets at once
>but he's one consciousness
through the hive mind, yes
>but you can't move info faster than light
through the hive mind, yes, you can, because it's warp space magic

if your stance is that tyranids are "voids" so they can't do the above warp communication, then that's your wrong headcanon about them
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I haven't played a game all edition.
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>>98300048
>you might want to pay attention to the conversation you're participating in
ironic, because noone but you in this one post made the conversation only about non-warp ftl travel, retard
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>>98300087
Man how do you go more than a week without a game?
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>>98300077
I see now the error of my ways. I understand the Tyranids do use the Warp, and I will call it a shadow from now on.
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>>98300091
My army got absolutely buttfucked by changes (I can't fit two rogal dorns in my list no mo)
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The name?
Heh…
>V O I D S H A D O W
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So i ended up with two units of thousands sons, a sorcerer hq, a unbuilt kit of scarab occult marines and a unit of beastmen bird whatevers. What else should i get, outside a rhino, for some low points entry level TS games?
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>>98300090
>>98299928
>and it was, literally, retconned
Exhausting.
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>>98300000
witnessed
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>>98300098
>What should I get
MVB
>-for ez babby games
Tzaangor enlightened with bows and sekhetar robots
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>>98300104
Anon, the conversation starts here >>98299985 where anon thought tau had no FTL at all

and the tau own skimmer drives and wormhole drive or whatever they're called are ALSO warp bullshit
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>>98300120
>peanutcel seething
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>>98300122
No, that's just a post you're arbitrarily starting the conversation at. The reply chain continues all the way up to the other post I quoted. Don't be a disingenuous faggot.
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>>98300111
>just insult me like a normal person.
you're not a normal person, why would I?
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>>98300132
Much better, I couldn't even smell this post.
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>>98300132
>>98300134
Can you faggots get a room jesus christ
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>>98300130
>that's just a post you're arbitrarily starting the conversation at. The reply chain
anon, this is the reply chain
>>98299969
>>98299985 >>98299990
>>98300006
>>98300025
>>98300048
you sperged out about whether tau ftl is warp or not while the posts you were replying to were correcting an anon who thought tau had NO ftl at all.

fucking pay attention next time retard
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>>98299228
>TQ
Custodes: Orion Assault ship. $500+ for a resin dropship is atrocious.
Necrons: Tesseract vault. Flimsy piece of shit, hard to transport, hard to use in a game.
Chaos Knights: Porphyrion. 700 points, resin, no real practical usage.
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>>98300099
What happened to that retard, anyway?
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>>98300152
... All you did was add one post and arbitrarily cut it off just before the post you don't want to include as part of the discussion, even though the first post here is replying directly to it. Exhausting but at least I can just write this off. Nobody wants to talk about this, not even me. Write your last word or whatever and free me from this weird bit.
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jaghatai khan being a primarch is like if there was a primarch named billy Hitler
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>>98300159
He got raped to death by a pack of feral alligators
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>>98299980
>>98300057
>>98300111
permanent means permanent
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Do you guys undershade/underpaint your non-HQ infantry? I''m thinking just a quick flick of a thinned dark brown, so I don't see why I shouldn't airbrush that on everything.
>>98300168
>and paint his hellblasters
Well that's not happening anytime soon.
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>>98300159
he switched his swag up and now he’s an amateur rapper in the underground houston scene
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>>98300167
I arbitrarily cut it off before the conversation switched to being about the conversation itself rather than tau FTL.

Tell me why you replied this >>98300006 if not because you didn't understand that the posts were correcting anon's >>98299985 idea that tau had no ftl at all, regardless of your own autistic gripes over whether they're warp or not

pay attention
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>>98300201
yes yes here's your (you)
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>>98300201
Sounds like something an AI bot would say
Post your squishy organic humanoid asshole to prove this isnt an AI slop post
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Um that’s kind of weird?
It’s been over two minutes and that guy still hasn’t posted his asshole
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>>98300174
Yeah, and Wilhelm Hitler sounds exactly like a Primarch name
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So i bought that third party Rhino upgrade kit to make my Emperors Children Wagon dank as FUCK but i have hit a crossroads lads.

I painted my dudes as black and electric pink with silver trim with a purple glaze, druichi if you nasty, but my dark passenger is telling me to paint the trim shit on the rhino gold. Is that gonna look to conflicting?
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I'm bored of this episode. Go back to the one where you complain about Eldar all the time and stuff.
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>>98300226
The only real complaints I have about the eldar are no new deldar models and that eldar women aren't having sex with me often enough.
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>>98300235
well, they aren't.
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>>98300207
>>98300219
Im not trying to dozz myself
What if somebody here recognizes my asshole and e-mails it to my employer?
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How should they expand the GSC range? and in what way should this spite eldar players specifically?
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Current Tau look bland, with no fix in sight. They very much look like they'll need to wait for next edition to be interesting omg
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KNEEL BEFORE YOUR NEW IP
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>>98300240
>How should they expand the GSC range?
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>>98300240
sexy GSC with mutant elf ears who don't wear helmets or bulky armor because it interferes with their pheremones
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>>98300240
remake the range so its actually easy to fucking paint.
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So i havent touched Tau since 3rd edition when Necrons stole my edgy teen interest over my weeb gunpla interest. Is the red farsight stuff still an option? and are there any of the current tau multi kit boxes doing the rounds worth getting to start them in particular?
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>>98300246
If I were to find a magic lamp my first wish would be for everyone who owns a funk pop to shit and piss blood until they die
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Say cheese!!!
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>>98300293
they don't have cheese in the grim darkness of the far future, the main farm animal is a reptile
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Does the Imperium have programmers? Like people writing applications and software engineers and whatnot.
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>>98300320
admech datasmiths
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>>98300320
Technically but they are more copypasting specific codes drilled into them like an ai chatbot since creating new code is haram in a setting where you can imbue a machine with a soul.
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>>98300317
grox can be milked though, so there probably is reptile cheese. Also, I'm sure SOMETHING in the imperium can be milked. Earth rats and birds made it into space with the human diaspora, surely some cattle of some kind made it too. Goats are EXTREMELY hardy and can survive all over the place.
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So now they have been around a minute what are peoples thoughts on Votann as an army? i like the idea of "mining corps so old that health and safety signage is 'the ancient runes' for them" but from what i've seen on the tabletop it looks like it gets very very monotone.
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>>98300320
nah it's all just vibecoders
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>>98300334
>grox can be milked though
only the males
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>>98300341
inb4 schizo reply
But I have always been on the verge of buying 1000 points but they're just not fucking dwarfy enough. I don't mind the lore but the fucking mars rover transports THAT CAN'T RVEN FUCKING TRANSPORT ANYTHING USEFUL put me off. Also their army rule is too much paperwork imo.
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Can Primarchs be milked?
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>>98299720
I've posted about it before but 'propagation sand' is perfect. It's designed to grow cacti in. Good mix of small and large grain sizes with some tiny pebbles thrown in. I think they call it sharp sand in burger land. Just look for whatever you grow a cactus in that'll do it
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>>98300374
Eurotards are so fucking stupid it blows my mind sometimes
Its called ‘freedom sand’ dipshit
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>>98300370
lets keep trying, maybe it will work eventually
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>>98300018
I make mine out of disposable stuff. Cheese tray and baking paper. Never clean it, just throw it away when it gets funky and spend 2 mins making another.
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You guys working on anything?
I'm doing some older sisters and some penitent engine bases
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Guys my model base is slightly tacky (painted dark grey) will it ever dry I was painting while it was humid the uk is europes arm pit. And i never thinned my paints for said rim of the base
Got my first ten orks painted
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>>98300387
Call me a E*ropean again and I'll cross the Pacific to slap the quadruple whopper right out of your hand mate.
I'll tip over your mobility scooter
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>>98300417
Yeah of course it will dry, it just takes time.
I have been painting all day in the UK
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>>98300421
lmaooo everyone point and laugh, he's not even from a country looool look at this fucking idiot
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>>98300410
Got my traitor guard proxies finally primed up. Won't have time to work on them til the weekend's over but I need to grab some more paints anyway.
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>>98300423
These are my boys fella
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>>98300435
close enough
welcome back garlemald
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>>98300410
Should be able to finish off my lychguard this weekend, I'm hoping
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>>98300436
Why is the photo quality bad fml
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>>98299228
Well boys here is my first ever hobby
miniature. Took probably 7 hours total. Had to go with a classic boy in blue. Edge highlighting is hard :(
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>>98300449
It's good for a beginner, you didn't make any major fuckups which is a good result for a first model, well done.
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>>98300449
Weathering and chipping is better and easier to do I'd go for that
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>>98300460
thank you anon

>>98300464
I will look into this. I have about 50 hobby painting figures queued up in my youtube playlist for various techniques and advice.
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>>98300059
>When did this cancer start. Last edition I played was 7.
8th was made to cater to retards and tourneyfags, they removed all immersive game mechanics like blasts and scatter, vehicle armour facings, fire arcs. And just to add insult to injury this is the same edition where they released a shitty looking but overpowered space marine hovertank that had like 12 guns pointing in small fixed arcs in literally all four fucking directions and you could now shoot them all at the same target as if the tank was spinning in place like a fucking beyblade. Absolutely horrendous retardation. 10th doubled down with another pass at "streamlining" (read: gutting and blandifying) rules even further, and as one of the only people I've ever known to have played all 10 editions up to that point it was the worst one ever made hands down.
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>>98300341
i'd like them more if they'd leaned harder into the senility of the AI cores and the particularities that come with it
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>>98300341
I like em. Didn't at first on their reveal but the models grew on me, especially once I started seeing them painted up in anything that isn't the atrocious boxart scheme GW picked for them. They could use more beards 100% but I really dig their fluff and they're fun to play on the table, even if their army rule is a bit of a chore to remember/track down.
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>>98300436
spooky
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>>98300472
>vehicle armour facings, fire arcs
>Immersive
lol
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Brokeboy at our locals was once against selling kits from their shamepile thats like 20 years deep. I got a Commander Farsight, Broadside and xv-88 kits for £42. Where do i go from here tauniggas?
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>>98300341
GW tried to dodge the space dwarf look. Problem is, that's what they are, and you can't get away from it. At the core they're dwarves in space and always will be. So trying to dodge that aesthetic was a mistake, you can't get away from it so now it's just conspicuously missing, and the aesthetic feels undercooked.

I like the votann. That new character with the nid cloak is very cool also.
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>>98300539
Not a taufag but some infantry probably wouldn't hurt.
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>>98300539
>Broadside and xv-88 kits
Huh? Regardless you want two or three ripdtides and somewhere in the region of 9 boxes of Crisis suits.
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>>98300537
Yes, shitposter.
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>>98300553
Wrong. Those shit rules are totally immersion breaking.
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>>98300566
You must immerse yourself in shit then
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>>98300541
Honestly i think leaning more into the mining corpo shit would make them stand out as a dark age of technology left over. They are ai driven mining vessels left alone so long the corpo became a religion and cultural identity.
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>>98300566
You're obviously just shitposting but entertain me, explain how.
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>>98300550
Broadside and 3 XV8 suits rather.
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This month's collage theme is Heavy, what's heavier than terminator armor?
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>>98300589
>what's heavier than terminator armor?
Centurion armor!
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>>98300575
No, I just have a three digit IQ.

>>98300578
Vehicles can rotate, the same as infantry, cavalry, or big monsters. Why should they be arbitrarily frozen at the end of their move?
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>>98300605
cuz theyre big vehicles it takes time for them to rotate
Might even require a 3 point turn in certain situations
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>>98300605
They're not frozen, you can change their position during that move. But when firing they cannot spin so rapidly all their weapons facing different directions can target the same unit that's fucking retarded and you are retarded.
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>>98300577
Yeah mining corp stuff is both dwarfy and futuristic so that works. I'd make it more industrial. Maybe do something with runic corporate logos.
You're never going to make a squat without people saying 'that's a dwarf'. It's built in. So I don't hate the NASA punk stuff in isolation but it doesn't really fit the inescapable dwarfyness of squats. Too clean.
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>>98300605
You claim to have a 3 digit IQ but you can't rotate a land raider in your head
Curious
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>>98300615
>cuz theyre big vehicles
Some are, some are not. Even big vehicles can rotate quickly. Nothing else in the game is assumed to be frozen in place like a statue.

>>98300621
>They're not frozen, you can change their position during that move.
But you still assume they're frozen at the end of the move, which is not the same for any other unit type.
>But when firing they cannot spin so rapidly all their weapons facing different directions can target the same unit
Why the fuck not? Does the shooting phase last half a second or something?
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>>98300636
Why not beyblade spin kek
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>>98300636
>Does the shooting phase last half a second or something?
Yes retard, the entire game is like 2 minutes
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>>98300636
>Does the shooting phase last half a second or something?
It lasts 1-2 trigger pulls, so literally yeah.
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>>98300639
Tanks can typically turn in a matter of seconds.

>>98300645
>>98300651
Give me a full time breakdown of the game.
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>>98300654
im nta you were arguing with but the idea of a tank with mounted guns pointed in all 4 directions moving forward while spinning around like crazy so each gunner gets shots in every couple seconds is really funny imagery so I can see why anon thinks its retarded and immersion breaking
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>>98300654
>soldiers can move 6" (12 meters) in a movement phase or sprint up to twice that
>can shoot fully automatic weapons for a single burst or two
Are you not realizing how fast everything is happening in the game universe and how short these phases are
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>>98300663
That's a retarded way to imagine it, so you probably have the same IQ as the guy I'm arguing with.

>>98300664
>>soldiers can move 6" (12 meters) in a movement phase
How long does that take them? Does that mean a pistol has the effective range of 24 meters?
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>>98300678
I mean thats whats happening so lol
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>>98300683
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>>98300683
>>98300688
LOL

PORN

GET IT?

LMAO
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>>98300683
while I do appreciate a fat ass don't you feel a bit silly posting this?
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>>98300704
Nigga sees a womans big shiny ass wearing a little g-string and immediately thinks of porn
Totally brainbroken
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>>98300683
>>98300688
>the proportions on that ass
she must have microwaved it.
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Is the new edition any good? I'm thinking of starting an army now that I have a dedicated hobby room set up. One of my friends keeps trying to convince to buy some titans and play titanicus with him and he's nearly sold me on the idea.
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>>98300678
>How long does that take them?
Seconds, obviously. And the shooting phase is even shorter.
>pistol effective range 24 meters
Yeah, just like real combat conditions. The range you can hit targets at when out at a firing range has absolutely fucking nothing to do with actual war. The combat stress, fatigue, tunnel vision, smoke and dust, deafening explosions, targets moving and hugging cover, makes small arms fire utterly ineffective outside of point-blank range except to suppress. 40k abstracts out all the long range suppressive fire and just assumes everyone is doing it all the time and you only roll dice for point blank kill shots.
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>>98300589
When would you need a combi-needler combination
The Escher gang leader has the same weapon.
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>>98300737
>Seconds, obviously.
How many?
>And the shooting phase is even shorter.
How many seconds?
>Yeah, just like real combat conditions.
Haha, okay. And so the range on an earthshaker cannon is 480m?
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>>98300731
Never played it but from what I hear Titanicus is one of the few genuinely good feeling game systems GW has made in the last 20 years so if you have someone to play with I'd maybe do that. I'd have tried it ages ago if it weren't exclusively HH themed.
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>>98300764
How many seconds do you think it is anon?
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>>98300773
I have no clue, I always thought the game was to abstract to pin things down in that matter, so that's why I'm asking you.
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>>98300782
im not the anon you were talking to
idk probably like a few seconds
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>>98300789
Doesn't matter, really, you've chosen to take his position.
>idk probably like a few seconds
Be more specific. How many seconds? All phases if you please.
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>>98300799
nuhuh i just asked what you think
thats too many things you asked
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This is Kantor Blue, right?
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>>98300812
Yes
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>>98300812
looks like it.
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>>98300799
NTA or the other A. It is 4.86 seconds exactly, as revealed to me in a dream.
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>>98300817
>>98300818
Alright, what about this one?
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Not finished yet of course, but I'm stuck on what paints I need for this vox operator's backpack.
Leather for the straps I know, but then for that pack on the bottom, what color? and then what parts are metal?
Anyone got a good reference pic? I can't find one on google.
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>>98300819
Which phase is that?
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>>98300731
Just play Titanicus instead honestly. Much better game.
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>>98300824
bottom left has the model from the side, but as a rule of thumb for packs, it’s best to go for the strap color, or whatever color you’ve used for other parts of the mode like tan or green.
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Blood Angels and Necrons are bes frens forever, this is canon and can never be undone.
Necron players, please check in on your BAngel friends and make sure theyr'e okay with GW's SMUrf faggotry
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>>98300847
Okay, I'll give it a shot with green.
Thank you Anon!
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>>98300824
>>98300852
wait, I just realized on the warhammer website you can look at their kit, and get a 360 view instead, so you can get a better idea. try that out.
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>>98300374
>propagation sand
Still here, anon? Got link to specifics pics so I know the texture?
I just want a batch I can dunk and move to the next one as I have some horde armies. Admittedly mixing my own batch may have consequences like me messing up and having to start over and suddenly I’ve run through my batch and gotta get more sand repeat ad nauseum.
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>>98300824
Up to you, but I'd go with a dark camo green on the bottom rectangular bit, could be a canvas covering/satchel holder for the vox body that the straps attach to. With brown leather for the satchel breaking it up. Then do steel for the middle and top sections with the controls. Give the controls different colours, like red/light green buttons or whatever.

But there's no real right answer, do what you think makes sense or looks good.
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>>98300449
>his first paint is a smurf
OH NONONONONONO GLUP SHITTO SISTERS WHY DIDNT HE PICK A 3% PLAY RATE ARMY AS HIS FIRST
it looks fine btw, edge highlighting and blending is an acquired skill
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>>98300764
>How many?
How many seconds do you think it takes a grown man to run 12 meters or so, anon? It's fucking 2-3 seconds tops.
>And so the range on an earthshaker cannon is 480m?
If you want to get a direct hit on a moving target with it and not just be adding an extra crater to an empty place on the map miles away, yes.

This stuff isn't even complicated to understand and the old rulebooks spelled it out for you, you're just an autistic newfag. Shut up and listen to people who know better.
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>>98300875
hes sealioning anon you dont have to argue with him lol
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>1000sons consistently in #2-#3 highest WR spot
I thought this was the melee edition or are the robots really that good?
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>>98300863
This is what the sand looks like, I got a big bag of it that'll last a lifetime for only a couple of bucks at the hardware store. I brush a layer of mod podge (PVA works too) on the base with a cheap flat/square brush. Wait a day, then do another very thin layer of mod podge over the top to seal it.
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>>98300880
That was my last reply anyway I just wanted to leave his ass flattened beyond recovery.
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>>98300886
Thousand sons have 3 big wins recently
>one of the best detachments
>robots from last year
>channel the warp making almost every spell cast a crit
Watching 40k in 40 minutes and seeing mubin throw the game by not playing thousand sons right or misinterpreting the rules makes me want to kms
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>>98300410
And bases on
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>>98300898
>he watches 40k in 40 minutes
what do you think of the new thousand sons player?
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Sup/tg/ hoping to pick your brains gonna start some Sisters, was thinking a scheme like pic rel for them, thoughts?
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>>98300863
>>98300888
The result, pre painting. I did all my old models at once, it's quick enough to get through a horde army. Typically for a new model I'll do it before priming. I also got a tupperware tub and poured some in there, it's much easier to work with that than the big bag, which you can just keep around for refills.
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>>98300912
I love the new sisters post 7th edition but I wish we got the big giant mommy angel the size of a house instead of just celestine.

Also I'm terrified to paint my celestine and do a bad job.
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>>98300912
I like the red robes, not a fan of the flat green on sisters but if you made it more like metallic copper verdigris and turned the yellow trim into copper it might be cool imo.
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>>98300886
>>98300898
10x scarab occult terminators is probably the best or second best unit in the game right now per point cost
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>>98300917
>but I wish we got the big giant mommy angel the size of a house instead of just celestine
Kinda cringe.

Also nu-repentia ruined them.
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>>98300917
You could probably get that one Celestine statue from kill-team that's like four times her size and paint it as a giant glowing proxy unit.
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>>98300912
I like the left
gives me sallyfag vibes
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>>98300912
Based sisters enjoyer
I think the white and green will look better on a mini than the red robes.I think it will come out a bit too Christmasy
Do a test mini in each scheme though, see what works.
Soulstorm is also where I fell in love with sisters and where I picked my order (argent shroud), they were a bitch to collect while still metal lmao
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>>98300936
That's some other random anon taking the piss and mocking you because you already got destroyed and no one gives a shit about arguing seriously with a retard like you any longer.
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>>98300928
trvke
really hope SoB never get a big marvel character
our centerpiece should be a big battle cathedral tank or something if we must have one
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>>98300931
I HAVE IT, I just havent worked out a base for it yet. I'm not going to do it as a statue, I'm going to paint the skin bronze like its living metal / imperial demon. I have a homebrew datasheet based on the CSM Daemon Prince w/ wings. She's going to just be that stats wise.

The problem is the feet are molded into the skull pile, so I havent come up with a good way to resculpt it or incorporate the skulls into a corkboard rock pile. Its like... the flowing cloth degenerates into a solid fucking chunk of plastic and stops reading as cloth.
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>>98300835
The sleeping phase. It wasn't a daydream, idiot.
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>>98300938
>a bit too Christmasy
Anon, haven't you ever heard the song?
Dashing through the snow,
Hunting heretics to slay,
O'er fields we go,
Purging all the way.

Oh, Bolter shells, flamer smells,
Purging all the way,
Oh what fun it is to kill,
Some heretics this day.
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>>98300873
at least wait until someone says that before breaking into hysterics.
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>>98300939
This might be hard to grasp for you, but we're not talking, we're communicating via text.

>>98300940
Where did this supposed destruction happen? Was it after nobody could argue for retarded vehicle facing rules?
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>>98300848
in the 7th or 8th ally chart didnt blood angels have necrons on their ally chart? lol
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>>98300944
>our centerpiece should be a big battle cathedral tank or something if we must have one
That would be neat actually, but the procession of Saint Katherine or whatever it's called is also a really good centerpiece they have already
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>>98300955
Love the statue, it's a beautiful terrain piece.
You could always just cut the cloth off above the skulls with a hobby saw, have that flush against the base of whatever she will be on?
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Sisters of Battle should have their tits bulging a little more in the armour. Not a lot. Not like cartoonish porn caricature shit. Just tasteful curvature more than they currently have. Just a bit of tit bulge. All women in 40k should be objectified.
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>>98300986
Got any studies to back that up?
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>>98300970
It's a lovely kit, but my gripe with that one is it's a bit of a diorama more than anything.
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>>98300992
IP grabber, do not click
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>>98301004
Prove it
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Autistic commitment to the bit long past the point of it being funny, versus autistic commitment to respond seriously without acknowledging they are obviously being trolled. Who breaks first?
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Stop replying to him holy shit.
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Orks
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I’m convinced he’s responding to himself at this point
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>>98301012
Like
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>>98300975
I assume that was meant for my post >>98300950

Yea, I just havent figured out where to cut yet and its been on my shelf for a few months so its kind of on the back burner.


I was thinking of doing pic rel, building up a cork base that the chonky part can slot into, then decorate it with skulls and fallen bricks / statuary. Maybe a broken column at an angle to break up the silhouette. That was I dont have to adress that large flat part cutting the bottom of the cloth would cause. I have hodge podge and gravel to fill in the gaps.

Its just a bit of work for me because Ive never done a built up cork base before.
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>>98301017
I
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How much do Orks like fighting you?
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>>98301019
:D
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orkchads saving the thread from the dreaded cock-kisser anon
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>>98300898
Try being a Thousand Sons and Admech fan. Shit for Battle reports and the few that exist are retards throwing games.
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>>98301030
>Fears replying directly
COWARD
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SPESS ORG :D
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>>98301049
Oh man those are adorable
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How do people paint so quickly? I think i spent 4-5 hours today doing small cloth details on only 3 models.
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>>98301057
The more you do it the faster you get. It takes years of consistent painting to become naturally quick.
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>>98300898
Mubin bought sekhetar robots and in their debut game didn't use them for the reason you use them (free overwatches) lmao
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>>98301026
Ork players hate playing against me because historically those games are basically free for my factions.
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>>98301018
Yeah sorry, it was 12:30 am here.
cork should be easy to work with, just make sure you pin it in with some wire
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>>98301088
>make sure to pin it
Good idea, Ill do some googling on that. I have the hand drills but Ive never actually pinned anything before because most of my models havent needed it between sisters and agents
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>the world eater and ork player in the LGS play against each other
>"THE NAILS ARE BITING"
>"WAAAGH"
>they start trashing the place
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Guys, I am 0-4 with disruption so far in 11th. I think this disposition might be trash.
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>>98301107
>death guard player walks in
yeah you can fill in the rest
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>>98301092
It's super easy to do with a hand drill and a paperclip if it's just a couple.
I imagine you would need to pin through to the base to keep it secure. Either by having it go all the way through the cork or the cork being adounf it
I bought one of the cheapo little electric hand drills because I have had to pin all 100+ sisters as I use custom bases
I look forward to seeing your sisters
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>>98300410
Painting up an updated emperors champion after a year and half.

>>98301057
Currently at 7 hours with this lad, It helps a lot when you know the exact paint you need to achieve something.
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>>98301133
Looking a bit too blue honestly lad
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>>98301057
Usually takes me a month per box. I figure I already have enough for a 2k game so I can afford to take my time with the rest and make something nice.
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>>98301130
any suggestions on a cheapo little electric hand drill? I was thinking of picking up a Dremel kit desu, my dad had one as a kid and it was super useful for a variety of things
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>>98301130
what drill bits do you use?
I was constantly snapping the set I had so I bought a dozen of them and now more than 8 of the set is missing the one bit that's for pinning
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Are the allegations true? That she.. You know...
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>>98301204
Don't fuck xenos, you heathen.
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>>98301204
Yes. I'm afraid she friendzoned the Visarch.
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>>98300968
8thed didn't have an ally chart and necrons could ally with anyone, 7th ed all of the imperium factions were under the umbrella of "imperium of man" and were "come the apocalypse" ally rating, and in 6th necrons were desperate allies with all of the imperial codexes because GW wanted to sell more kits.
If you don't know something keep your mouth shut.
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>>98301245
He phrased it in the form of a question he wasnt speaking authoritatively about it no need to be so harsh
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Updated chaos bikers when?
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>>98301204
Yeah, she was good at being a Succubus in Commoragh and everybody knows why
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>>98301204
Bobby still make Illiyan Nastase wear the bodysuit and wig and pretend to be her in bed
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>>98300824
Here's my finished dood. How'd I do?
>>98300857
>>98300869
>>98300847
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>>98300242
>no fix for tau yet
> new edition is single-digit weeks old
Jfc take your vyvanse and wait for the second codex of 25 to come out before spazposting
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>>98301346
Neato
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I know they've established black space marines in every chapter; have there ever been black eldar?
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>>98301381
Theres no black space marines
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>>98301279
I thought they were saving multi-part blueberry outriders to reveal at the same time as Chaos Bikers, but now that hope has been dashed. I would imagine we get them with the codex, now. Probably around Christmas or early next year.
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>>98301386
>he doesn't know about the niggarines
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>>98301413
There arent any
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>>98300261
Farsight's still in the game, only real rules interaction is no Ethereals for you when he's on the field. Also no transfers for you unless you want Viorla sept. The current edition combat patrol is pretty much all units you'd use in an army so it's no filler even though the pricing isn't the best points/$-wise. If you can find a Farsight Cadre battleforce that'd be great too, but good luck finding one at a decent price.
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>>98301413
They're tanned Argentinians.
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>>98301381
We call them “dark” eldar
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>>98301386
celestial lions
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>>98301429
???
What about them?
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For the anons looking into Tau, I would hold off. They are rumored to be getting a refresh alongside their codex, which is also rumored to be one of the early ones of the edition.

I would stick to stuff that’s unlikely to get replaced, unless you’re fine with using the current models.
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>>98301425
NTA but the price for the Farsight Cadre box is increasing on a daily basis. Grabbed one for under $300 - $269 to be precise and it was the cheapest I could find on Ebay, sadly. Days prior it was $240USD.
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>>98299240
Horus Horussy
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>>98299228
I'm running a desert raider themed GSC army, mostly using Ash Waste Nomads from Necromunda for my Neophytes. Are there any models out there that might make good converted/proxy aberrants or abominants with more of a sand-people vibe? There's shit tons of stuff available for Ogryn, but those guys are way too big.
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>>98301007
The greater autist, obviously. Here, not even a janny can socially maneuver his way around superior autism. As evidenced by my continued presence, my beloved peanut gallery.
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Would it make sense for deathwatch to use backpack banners?
I've been using tactical squads and leftover deathwatch veteran bits to make new squads and I think it would look sick but would they look good?
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>>98299228
Hey guys, Collageanon here. Sorry about the collage being a few days late, I've been extremely busy the last few days traveling.
Anyway here is the collage! Very nice stuff as usual. Great work getting stuff done despite the summer heat.
Heavy won the vote this time. A very broad theme. Could be a big vehicle, armored dude, a dreadnought or even a guy with particularly huge weapon, as usual it's up to you.
Feel free to add any thoughts and suggestions.
Thanks for participating!
Until next time!
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>>98301434
Yeah I somehow copped one at 250 maplebux two weeks ago, some LGS in assfuck nowhere Quebec was running a promo. Jimmies rustled bc I'm hearing rumours that broadsides/crisis suits are gonna get refreshed but that's what I get for fomo purchasing
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>>98301568
Glad you grabbed a box as well, Anon. I personally will use miniatures even if they are "old". Still running assorted stuff from 2e+, green rod Necron warriors, old CSM, a full GK army of metal and plastic, 5e Deldar. The classic Crisis suits are gorgeous and well made so having them is no loss, imo.
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>>98300873
I actually don't really plan on playing Smurfmarines, I just know that they're a good starting point because I do eventually plan on playing some form of SM/CSM, and the blue color scheme is apparently a bit more forgiving.
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just blew cash on death guard in case anyone was wondering which faction is getting the next refresh
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>>98300410
Finished my company colours.
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>>98301568
A good model at a good price is a good model at a good price, no matter how old it is.

Unless it's so old that it's not rules-legal anymore. Then you might have some extra steps.
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Why are Necrons so annoying? I hear they've always been OP, why is that? Why wouldn't they balance them and only make them stronger over time
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>>98301579
>>98301599
No I love the models, current broadsides are one of my favourites across the game's range. It's mostly because I'm now sitting on 3 sets of **unassembled** crisis suits and a couple broadsides, so if there's a refresh I can't financially justify getting more.
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>>98301643
I dont think theyre OP
Theyre just annoying because of Reanimation Protocol
Its pretty heavily based on the results of the dice, but if you get unlucky they just keep fucking coming back lol
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>>98301666
Makes sense, but just build what you have and bad goes to worse add a second base to the Crisis suits to up their height and base width.
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>>98300410
I’m fucking with finding out how to make a diggaboy. this is my test scheme, and because he can’t get any face paint thanks to the cowl, I’m going to put his klan colors on the main armor, and have the cowl/cloak be the same green as the ork skin. do you think he would fit in with a group of orks? I also decided to try out painting the ork skin halved, and its way easier than I thought which I’m happy about.
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>>98300435
kino proxy
>>98300904
kino flames
>>98301133
kino scratches
>>98301594
kino banner
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Are Noise Marines worth taking in CSM? Not in a WAAC sense but more of a "does this unit do something fun or of interest that Havocs don't" way
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>>98301496
maybe some of the star wars tabletop game has some good sand people. sand people are a big thing in that setting because of the desert planet. I hate star wars but there might be some good models in there.
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How do you sandbag chaos knights? Double melee despoiler feels into bm territory.
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>>98301419
that's because their primarch was the second. His name was D'stygian Ebonarius.
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>>98301771
Less range and damage output than heavy bolter havocs. 1" more movement and a leadership debuff. Almost certainly worse, but not very meaningfully.
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>>98301783
Delamarcus Dequandanequious, fallen Champion of Khorne with an aura that inflicts fatigue on his enemies
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Bump
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>>98300410
Hive Tyrant in progress
Wish I subassembled the wings too but I had to putty them in
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Nightmare Hunt or Dread Talons + Murdertalon Raiders?
I know they both suck, I just think Night Lords are cool.
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>>98301875
>Hive Tyrant in progress
Why?
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>>98301892
what do you mean, why?
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Can other races fire Ork weaponry?
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>Yo listen up here's a story about a little guy who lives in a blue world
>And all day and all night everything he sees is just blue
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>>98300410
kinda chilling after finishing(?) the thunderhawk. will be starting a new saturnine dreadknight kitbash soon, hopefully with a more dynamic pose.
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IM BLUE BADEEDOOBADEEDAA
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>>98301912
bro what the fuck did you put this together with like a soldering iron or something? Lol
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>>98301959
Post your models then
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I have Grey Knights lore questions. Answer them.
>1. Their primarch is the Emperor, right? So why did the Emperor need the primarches at all, if he could just use himself?
>2. Do the Grey Knights follow the Codex Astartes in any capacity? Do they have more than 1000 knights?
>3. Do they ever not wear grey steel? For if you wanted to paint them a different color in your army.
>4. Do they ever have successor chapters?
>5. Where do they get their recruits?
>6. Do they always murder regular Imperial troops/civilians who just saw daemons while fighting them, to minimize threat of corruption, once the daemons are dealt with? Assuming circumstances allowing them to, of course
>7. Other space marines believe they're just a myth or a codex-noncompliant chapter, right?
>8. Who in the Imperium actually knows exactly what they are and what they do? Who is their theoretical superior with the theoretical authority to rein them in?
>9. If they're so secretive, where are they getting their fancy gear?
>10. They only give a shit about psykers and daemons, right? So they're not going to ever waste their time killing, for instance, Tau or Necrons?
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>>98301994
Honestly with the amount of questions to you're asking you should just read their codexes.
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>>98301994
1: wrong
2: no, no
3: no
4: no
5: the Imperium
6: no
7: no
8: the high lords, the inquisition. The high lords, the inquisition
9: secret
10: they will if there's a reason to. (You) can justify anything.
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>>98301994
>>1. Their primarch is the Emperor, right? So why did the Emperor need the primarches at all, if he could just use himself?
they say this but we don't know, probably not, probably started from Magnus' geneseed and then took the cooler librarians of each chapter
>>2. Do the Grey Knights follow the Codex Astartes in any capacity? Do they have more than 1000 knights?
No, they're above it. We don't know how many there re.
>>3. Do they ever not wear grey steel? For if you wanted to paint them a different color in your army.
They can have "alternative heraldry"
>>4. Do they ever have successor chapters?
No they're not a chapter per se, they're an Inquisitorial ordo millitant
>>5. Where do they get their recruits?
A mix of stealing Scouts of other chapters and just grabbing random psykers that seem strong.
>>6. Do they always murder regular Imperial troops/civilians who just saw daemons while fighting them, to minimize threat of corruption, once the daemons are dealt with? Assuming circumstances allowing them to, of course
Not anymore now that it's impractical. Pre-cicatrix yes
>>7. Other space marines believe they're just a myth or a codex-noncompliant chapter, right?
Depends
>>8. Who in the Imperium actually knows exactly what they are and what they do? Who is their theoretical superior with the theoretical authority to rein them in?
The Inquisition, see 4.
>>9. If they're so secretive, where are they getting their fancy gear?
The Inquisition
>>10. They only give a shit about psykers and daemons, right? So they're not going to ever waste their time killing, for instance, Tau or Necrons?
If they happen to be in the way, they do. Sometimes a Necron or a T'au might have possession (heh) of a psychic or daemonic relic
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>>98301994
the answer to each of your questions is either "No" or "the inquisition".
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>>98301994
>kinda, probably maybe.
>no, currently they have less than 500 according to the 10th codex, but the 8th brotherhood (trainees) is swelling to replenish.
>some small groups within brotherhoods wear different colors but even then its more like a colored arm or quest badge.
>no
>they either yoink psyker aspirants from other chapters before implantation or get the best of the best from the black ships if the sisters detect someone useful there
>some chapters, first founding and other important ones, might know about them, but to most its only rumors
>high lords, but maybe not even all of them. some parts of the ordo malleus but not all of it. their only direct superior is the emperor, and in theory right now gorillaman as imperial regent. no the inquisition does NOT order them, they can make requests.
>gear is either made on their private forgeworld of deimos or shipped directly from mars using repeatedly mindwiped servitors to keep the martians from knowing anything.
>/yourdudes/ can fight anything they want. the futuresight of the knights might say they need to clear out X xenos to prevent Y disaster in the future, maybe.
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>>98301558
which one is your favourite, anons?
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>>98302099
The two Wazdakkas are both pretty good.
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>>98302099
Like always it's hard to pick a favourite since all the submissions have something that makes them special whether it be the great colouring used, cool dioramas/conversions, or just general soulfulness.
Except that top right ashen circle marine, it's unfinished and shouldn't be there, but I really appreciate collage anon for including it :')
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>>98301558
So, I should just post a model I have that is a "heavy" unit?
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Shining spears are heavy cavalry, so they count as “heavy”, right? It’s kind of a stretch but I was going to paint them anyways
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>>98302129
you have one month to paint a heavy model or unit. what "heavy" means is entirely up to you
the model can have been built or primed whenever, but you must have painted the model this month
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whats the best unit to attach the visarch to? incubi?

i fucking love this model. gimme a whole squad of these engraved armor fur collar knight looking guys
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>>98301994
Holy shit nigger just pick up a codex and read
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>>98298437
I like "Miguel Iglesias" who most know for his Darktide art, but he makes a lot of stuff for GW in general
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>>98302143
i wouldnt personally consider them heavy. if you have dark reapers or a wraithlord to paint i think thats a better fit for heavy, but frankly eldar are short on heavy options anyways and its more important that you just paint and post literally anything than fussing over the particulars of categorical accuracy for a no stakes for fun monthly painting challenge
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>>98302152
I just happen to be working on walkers right now, I'll submit one later.
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>>98302198
hows the new war walker kit to build? i dont have those ones yet
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>>98302099
Probably GKanon's Thunderhawk just for having the balls to do one in a month.
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>Xeno Mercenaries Codex
>Kroot leave Tau Codex for it
>Tau and Dark Eldar in particular can take mercs from it without any issues
>Tarellian Kill Team is also part of it
>Sslyth and other Deldar Xenos, except for like Medusae also end up in it
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>>98302260
Which ever army has the highest population of femboys.
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Who's dick do I need to suck to get Combat Patrol missions on the app
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>>98302260
Craftworld Eldar
Red Scorpions

Guard is for commies
Black Templars for judeochristian conservatists
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>>98302289
>judeochristian
We just call it Christian again these days.
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>>98302259
If this means there are statted gue'vesa and we get more actual client races in the codex, I'm happy.
also more detachments pls
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>>98302293
Imperial Agents expansion when
Making Inquisition or Rogue Trader army should be so cool
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>>98302289
>Craftworld Eldar
Biel-Tan specifically

Also all Sisters of Battle.
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>>98302289
>Guard is for commies
Which is the same thing as a nazi, the way they genocide is by creating mutts.
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>>98301204
No, that's what makes the meme even funnier, she barely interacted with gulliman
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>>98301279
Soon enough, along doom rider
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>>98302260
Better you don't know, go back
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>>98302300
>Rogue Trader army
I'd nut if they had a rule that let you soup in units from basically anyone but nids.
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I’m just need to do the tactical rock on this IF. Somebody said I should do a grey rock with moss. Unfortunately I don’t have any moss effect products and I glued the feet onto the rock like a retard so I can’t dry brush the inner parts.

The shield says Terra Vult like one of the old forge world decals. The shin says Dorn though it looks like it says Porn if you look at it too much.

I couldn’t find a good enough shield decal so I had to settle for the black fist.
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>thinking about kitbashing together some aberrants
>find plenty of suitable bodies online
>don't know how or where to source properly big arms
Can aberrants only do well in kitbashing when using their bodies and swapping out one or both arms? All I'm seeing on Google are aberrants with big mechanical claw hands and necromunda guys with genestealer arms that look more like Acolytes
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>>98302172
>i fucking love this model. gimme a whole squad of these engraved armor fur collar knight looking guys
Nu-Corsairs follow his design language quite closely and can all be built with swords, although only a handful have fur collars.
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>>98302300
I know it's impractical, technically not fluffy and frankly retarded, but gimme an Arbites expansion so I can field a full army of cops, riot squads and dogs so I can be an obnoxious faggot screaming "I AM THE LAW" at the table.
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>>98302260
guard
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NEW:

>>98302504
>>98302504
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>>98301890
Nightmare Hunt is just an upgraded Dread Talons
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>>98301204
F-f-futa?!



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