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>>98314185High quality version: https://imgchest.com/p/pg73a5rxgyrPlease put in allsync.
Actual tabletop games that use CYOA style character creation like traveller?
>Need to throw away hours of work on a cyoa because I thought of a better idea for some choicestiresome...
>>98314185Vermillion Blood ScalesHand of HeavensRising Dragon TechniqueIdea is to super enhance my body and thus my telekinesis, and just stall until I'm strong enough to crush my opponent..
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>>98314449Best build for the Steam CYOA here
Space Marine Kino > Metaslop > Fagslop
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>>98314319I lost motivation to finish my build after 2 planets because the cyoa is too easy.>Empire:The Echelons>Ship:Rotary-nol v8 (Drone Dispersal, Imperial Propaganda Broadcasting)>Commanders:Maev, Rosie O'Madden, Dhanya Udayan, EkoPlanets visited in order:>Mi-Ki 2B:Government Actions: Sign Treaties of CooperationConstructions: Cultural Exchange, Dyson Sphere, Psychic DrainProvisions: 2Happiness: 0Favor: 88>Phamilia Prime:Government Actions: Sign Treaties of CooperationConstructions: Cultural Exchange, Virtual Reality Chambers, Opulent Arcologies, Industrial Mining Operations, Sharecropping Initiative, Megafactories, Dyson Sphere, Psychic Drain, Free Modern Healthcare SystemProvisions: 20Happiness: 0Favor: 190
>>98314185Vermilion Blood Scales Hand of Heavens Crushing Weight of the mountain Pretty fun for a one off but terrible balance
Post Danmachi
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>>98314955>>98314956>ai slop Bad Wodan Also be my captain
OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
>>98314685Eldar>Mon-keigh Marines
Wodan can I base my build after you
Post cyoas with creative superpowers
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Wodan post After the FallI want to ride your oily pipe
Land Transformation seems like a subtle trap option, because it takes away from DE that could go into minions, you lose out on subtlety when you're expanding your corruption, you get the most benefit when you're on the defensive, and it costs -2 that could go towards other, much more useful tools of conquest. At the same time, it is impossible not to take. Raping the earth to reflect your image has a coolness that's difficult not to appreciate, and let's you observe your conquests spreading as you go about them. Despite the cost and drawbacks, to me, it is a must-buy. What is your preferred aesthetic for it?
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>>98315092Is it not embarrassing to shill your own shit this hard?
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>>98315111I'm not Tok
>>98315098Metal. Really go hard on that industrial look. Jagged metal spikes everywhere, chains holding down trees. The "Im evil nigga" look.
>>98314185Post Shogun Showdown. Finally got my build done.
>>98315123https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/image/9jLVoB0cFSsIuP4YBB0ITA/lol sure
I wish you could take multiple allies. Really harem max.Though I guess there's theoretically nothing stopping you from taking three nemesis and two allies.
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>>98315168>Rulership:Warlord: Strength of Self>Seat of Power:Land of Fire>Beast Clan:The Tiger >Advisors:Madame Orochi (The Pale Alchemist)Yonyou Akumayami (Red Horned Heroine)Carmilla Barthony (Fencer of Red)Gobbla Weylandottir (Flame Haired ForgeMaiden)>Army-Those Few Strong and TrueSlayer Saint (Spear) (x1)Slayer Saint (Bow) (x1)Samurai x1 (600) (Madame Orochi)Ashigaru x5 (19,500) (Madame Orochi)>Other Shogun:Nemesis: Ming Gui (Slow and Steady Dominance), Jin Huangjin (The Halcyon King) Ally: Sum Yung Gai1/2
>>98315050of course>>98315095>Wodan post After the FallAhh a man of taste
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>>983152072/2Plan: So I had some more sensible ideas, but I wanted to make my wish fulfillment Shōnen build. Plan is to be the ultimate badass who is at the head of a small force of other badasses. So of course, Warlord: Strength of Self for me, Yonyou Akumayami for strategy and to make my army unbreakable, Madame Orochi to make use all superhuman and immortal (she is basically mandatory for any build IMO), Gobbla Weylandottir combined with the land of fire so we can all be outfitted in masterwork enchanted gear (combined I am hoping we can scale it up enough to outfit the army with at least moderate enchanted gear and the inner circle with legendary gear), Carmilla Barthony to make us all more fierce (both personally in matters of the sword and her army level power, also didn’t have to buy a sword slayer saint), allied with Sum Yung Gai since he is a mega baddass and while I know protagonists are loath to share their techniques I have enough to offer him that he might trade a few of them. Force is a Small army of well-equipped elite supersolders supplemented heavily by the Tiger Clan. Plan here is obviously to reasonably be able to summon Tai Lung both personally and with seconds (hence Sum Yung Gai). Bit of a wild card but I am also hoping I can keep Mao Guai neutral or even friendly by successfully impressing her as per the request in her letter. Almost went with the “living goddess” as attrition is a weakness of this build, and she has good synergy with several other things but I am not confident in being able to control her.
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>>98315224Haven't you people done enough?
>>98315224WOOOOOOORM WHOOOOOOOORE
>>98315219>pour magic liquid into ear >magic “fairy” comes out your noseNO!That is NOT how the ear works… Also where does the “fairy” even go when it’s not in use? Up your bum?
>>98315245A better question would be how many can a brain handle at once? How many fairies is too many fairies?
>>98315224I never fully got through the update but my original plan for it was to just permanently stop time to do whatever I want
>>98315265I cant post the rest coz the image chest tankista made has pages >8mb and im not converting/compressing all of those at 2am. Good night guys, here is the link:https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n8wvvm4n>>98315245I think its nanobots that connect with your brain and just enter through the ear canal. Never thought much about it though as i went all in on deadelisms.
Reminder that the death and immortality cyoa contest is set to end July 14th, We are down to the last 8 days!If you are planning on participating please hold off on posting yours until the 11th.I (Voidsoul) have already completed mine and will hold this compact, as I think if everything releases at the same time it will be more exciting for the thread.Everyone else who finishes theirs may join the Compact and I will list them when I make this post every thread, if you reply to this saying yours is done.One Anonymous user has joined the compact.This is also a general call to see how many people are planning on submitting for the contest. If you don't want me to win, try at least a little bit, as mine is aggressively mid.Night Rider is mostly done, and will join the compact. Best of luck!Kot poster is considering making one. I hope it has cats!An anonymous user #2 is also considering making one.Wodan has stated he hasn't made one. But he has not said he won't. I hope he does, for what it's worth.Thank you for your attention, and always remember that life is truly the greatest Choose Your Own Adventure game.
>>98315285Okay but I don’t think the nano bots literally drill into your ear drum or anything since that would be agonizing
>>98315216For living Godess I feel like if you publicly enter a relationship with her and have children she'd preach that you're her "divine consort" or something
>>98315335I mean, It says that some people who try to use it get "Brainfire" and die so it has to interact with it in some way. Maybe they are just so small as to pass through harmlessly or it might be as agonizing as you suspect.
>>98315265Thank you, the Sakura has pleased, and will deliver you all a delicious sushi dinner.
>>98315337Maybe anon. Making other characters waifus seems to be the meta lol.
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>>98315136Excellent taste. I'm torn between some variety of fetid swamp or psychedelic ice jungle, but am still hashing it out.
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>>98315831>Items:Quantum Cell, Skin Plating (Hyper Sensors), Neural Interface, Psychokinesis, Reality Warp, Phasewalk Drug, Xeno-Species Database, Xeno-Archeology Database, Tactical VisorSpecialized in long, low danger and short, high danger excursions.>Worlds:Zombie, Alien, Machine, Demon
>>98314185I learn none of them and wait to dietoo much work
>>98315098Consider this. Less effort defending means more effort conquering and keeping what you take.
>>98315163What do you think is better for a silver tongued devil, take land of stars with Mao Guai and Khulutun as nemesis and Inazuma as ally or take land of thunder to throw Inazuma to the land of earth and only take one nemesis ?Inazuma's naruto ninjas are one of the most threatening thing about the rival in my opinion, alternatively stay in stars, hope thunder's bane will get in her way enough and take a single nemesis, maybe Inazuma even.
>>98316167I generally think Land of Stars is a death wish so the second one.
>>98315163Can Lady Lian summon from your beast clan too ? If yes it make her combo with the Rabbit even better.>>98316172Normally I would agree but I think a silver tongued devil should be able to get the loyalty of most if not all non-rival with some time, and Lady Lian's divination is invaluable by itself, her support against the treacherous is eally good too.Lian with Inazuma sounds like a disaster waiting to happer though.A few strong and true for your army with manipulator style should be enough to counter the land of thunder bane, keep Inazuka's ninja busy in the land of earth and Ming Gui in the land of stars where a manipulator's strength can hit at her weakness.I think I will go with land of thunder, no need to make dealing with the land of stars' bane take too much of my time, and the treachery might really be beacuse of a curse and unsolvable.
>>98316239Good thoughts, although to clarify I think Land of Stars is a bad choice because it borders 5 of the 6 other Shoguns, not the Bane.
>>98315098>FormConqueror-warlord(human)>RacesHumansDark ElvesGoblinoidsBeasts*Beastmen*Fae*Automatons*>TraitsHorde ModeMiasmaConfederationScryingAdaptabilityHonor Guard(Beastmen)Promotion>DebuffsContentiousLustful MinionsAttack! Attack>UnitsPeon(goblinoids)Fodder(Beasts)Skirmisher(goblinoids)Raiders(goblinoids)Berserker(beastmen)Brute(automaton)(mostly to carry stuff around)Mount(beasts)Heavy Infantry(human)Rampager(beastman)Artillerist(automaton)Standard-bearer(human)Centurion(human)Concubine(all races)Monstrous Mount(Beasts)(Like manticores and such)Anti-Paladins(Human)Praetorian(Dark Elf)Magus(fae)My plan is simple, a rampaging horde goes to town on the the Citadel
>>98315163to answer the anon from last thread, I saw the author confirmed on Reddit that Lian will change her motivation from love to hate for being rejected if you don't take her as your advisor.
>>98316310Well shit.
>>98316310Tetsuuu! You got- you gotta kill my sister, man, you gotta do it, dude, make it look like an accident or something She is a weird incescual creep, dude, its gotta be done, gotta be done
>>98316260That's true too, I was just thinking that if I take Mao Guai as a nemesis, she likely get a lot of her food by trading with the land of fire, and the supply line from fire to thunder would be relatively easy for shinobi to mess with. It's her or Khukulun, who's horses will have a hard time with the geography of the land of thunder but the hawk would without doubt find out any ambushes, and I truly don't want Ming Gui focusing on me so not taking her as a nemesis.
>>98316329I don't think Ming Gui is a bad nemesis though. Yea she is strong and smart but she is surrounded on all sides by opportunists. In practice this means she will never fully commit militarily as this would leave her vulnerable from the flanks.
Does anyone have that cyoa where you get a space bounty hunter gf? I remember that the waifus were all pre-built and you picked one or two.
>>98316310>>98316328This is a bit silly but now I kinda feel bad for her. It really wasn't that I was truly rejecting her, but the advisor slots are by far the most precious resource in the CYOA (honestly a lot of the benefits of certain advisors should be in a separate section).
>>98316386Same, I might end up taking her because I feel sorry (I still didn't decide on the fourth, was considering the necromancer), I just fear she will notice and still feel insulted.
>>98315163Im kinda annoyed there isnt a page showing which advisor goes to which Shogun if you don't pick them
>>98316386Its sad but she has gone crazy, gotta do what you gotta do, or capture her and try to get her to calm down
>>98316047A succinct point. They also improve construction traits, so if you're clever about it, it really pays for itself. The only real drawbacks are the -2 cost and loss of visual diversity in your empire, though I suppose the former's worth it and the latter can be sidestepped through having a more flexible transformation than just covering everything in meat.>>98316285I think this might be the first Overlord as human build I've seen. Good on you man.
>>98316386Well she kinda is the best advisor as she has two abilities for the price of one, both assassination protection and army divination which is probably one of the most powerful abilities one can have as it gives you far superior Intel than anyone else, you can prevent ambushed, predict bluffs or diversions, anticipate invasions beforehand by seeing concentrations of troops, attack weak points where troop numbers are low. It's probably one of the more powerful military abilities. And she has a relatively mild drawback as long as you can keep it secret.
>>98316461But what if you aren't into incest or have eyes for another?
>>98316429I assume equal distribution so you wouldn't just gimp one shogun by taking all of their advisors. Since there are 14 advisors left over and 7 rivals left they each get 2 advisors.
>>98316463such is the price one has to pay, it's pretty simmilar to the centaur girl you have to fuck her in weird rituals even if your not a furry.There isn't really anything preventing you from having eyes for another like Lian even literally says go get a lover so it looks less suspicious.
>>98316429Yea I suspect they go to the one where they would be strongest, like the pirate will go to land of water.
>>98316375But as a manipulator the best way to fight her can be done without having her stabbing you while hopping the rivals will deal with her before you're dead, I think it'd more likely that the rivals will try to have you her Ming Gui kille each other.The nemesis is really more about when to deal with one of the rival since you are fighting all of them, and being in an active war with Ming Gui before each of the rival start fighting her too sounds like a terrible idea to me
>>98316471I assume there are other advisors though, just like how we don't have a full selection of beast clans. Still there are several advisors that I specifically worry about falling into the wrong hands (although Lady Lian is a league of her own that way).
>>98316481The author answered to one who made an hypothetic list as a good one, but that it isn't certain they will always go to their meta-choice, the best possible, as circumstances might impede them.
>>98316490Well there most likely are more advisors so that every warlord gets at least 4, maybe Yung gai gets less advisors because who wants to walk around with a murderhobo.
>>98316482Bro she isn't going to leave her territory undefended, which means most of her army is committed at all times. If she is a nemesis she will have some of her force dedicated to fighting you but it won't be worse than any other nemesis. The scenario in which the two of you wear each other down and then the others sweep in is exactly what she will be trying to avoid. She won't attack even if she could win if she thinks the losses would be too severe and leave her vulnerable to her other rivals. It doesn't really matter what your spec is as long as your army is strong enough that beating it would incure significant casualties.
>>98316500It says he has two waifu advisors, I suspect they weren't choices we could make.
>>98316500His wives are his advisors
>>98316513>>98316514he also has Fatty Wang
>>98316510I am likely putting too much weight on the distinction between nemesis and rival, you start at war with your nemesis but we could stop warring to focus on something else if it's in our best interests.
>>98316375but her bloodline is literally built for this strategy. Here is the description"Holding firm when times are hard and pouncing upon opportunities without leaving themselves vulnerable."
>>98316310Welp, she's gotta die thenPoison grandma, do your thingAlso it's funny to imagine this in a multiplayer contextWe all have an incestous sister who we either appease or displease enough for her to side with our rivals.This makes us all find common ground and work towards the betterment of all the lands as a whole
>>98316549Look a nemesis will definitely try and get you if they can, but they aren't captain ahab who would do so to the point of ruin. Ming Gui will commit significant resources to beating you if she is a nemesis but being a Strategic Supremacy Shogun in the Land of Stars IMO indicates that she will be very concerned about any action that would leave her vulnerable. The Oni Queen would imo be more likely to behave the way you are imagining as a nemesis because she is a warmongering Tactical Brilliance Shogun with a much more defensible territory that borders fewer rivals.
>>98316533The most dangerous advisorLike the dragon contract, he is unavailable to us.
>>98316565Pouncing is a surgical strike when your enemies pants are down, not a drawn out conflict. I suppose it may come down to exactly what abilities the turtle clan have but come on it's the turtle clan it is going to be more defensive than offensive. To be clear she is 100% a serious threat but not more than other rivals even though she sounds better. She IS better but that's what it takes to hold down the Land of Stars.
>>98315163>MethodAdministrator-Architect of Legacy>Seat of PowerLand of Earth>Beast ClanBoar Clan>AdvisorsJoniYonyouTetsuChing>Force-Warlord's Legion4x Ashigaru2x Samurai2x Shugoki2x Nobushi3x Yumi2x Engineers1x Grand Cannon2x War Vessels>Rival ShogunKyojo(nemesis)Ming Gui(Ally)Khulutun(non-aggression pact, thanks Joni!)Jin(nemesis)Plan:I am taking the easy street, grabbing a page from the Turtle Clan book I will slowly build up infrastructure of Lands of Earth with a corp of engineers and my own architectural genius, with Lands of Stars and Winds not being a problem I will focus on Lands of Fire while Ching should be able to keep Kyojo's sea raiders at bay, and hopefully Tetsu can kill that crazy womanHalchyon King's rabble is unlikely to be able to stand against my fortifications and alliance with Land of Stars should make economy robust enough to keep his meddling from being crippling, boar cavalry and Nobushi patrols should be able to deal with raiders. But my ultimate goal is marrying Ming Gui and having Joni slowly convince Khulu that we ain't that bad, he seems like a cool dude, it should work out, and once Water and Fire are pacified, Lands of Thunder and Steel should be simple enough to deal with, even if through protracted campaigns but hey, that's what turtle wife's armies are for!
>>98316573Maybe she can be dealt with like a divorced parents kid, you fuck her on weekends, I deal with her during the holidays, anon there has mondays, tuesdays and wednesdays
>>98316633Actually maybe I should replace one Yumi unit with shinobis
>>98316592Specifically for drawn out conflict she is probably the best warlord. Her strategy is literally "Slow and Steady Dominance". What she is bad at is doing a risky gambles. Which I am personally not sure if is a great strategy to do anyways. Like individually she is the strongest warlord, like her main weakness is she is so strong the other warlord will probably team up to take her down.
>>98315163>Method of RulershipManipulator - Silver Tongued Devil>Seat of PowerLand of Thunder>Beast ClanThe Rabbit>AdvisorsMadame Orochi, Miko Kyonyu, Nakai Silk-Spinner, Lady Lian>Force Composition - Those Few Strong And TrueSamurai, Shugoki*2 (1000 to Orochi), Death-Weave Stalkers, Yumi Archers (500 to Orochi), Engineers, Monks of the Heavenly Body, Shinobi (10 to Orochi), Slayer Saint*2 (Kanabo & Yumi)>Rival Shogun - NemesisKhulutunThe beast-blooded shinobi along with some Shugoki and Yumi archers will stay close to me for protection, not sending many to Orochi since my army is already small, might send more latter, I need more soldier anyway. Slayer Saint to boost the Shugoku, Yumi Archers and Samurai.Use Silver Tongued Devil to make the Land of Thunder more militant.Khulutun's horses will be slowed down by the land and the hawks shot down by Yumi, use the Land of Wind's Boon to spread Miko Kyonyu's faith inside.Against Mao Guai, my eastern neighbor, use Lian's divination and use the rabbit to send the info to Shinobi and Nakai Silk-Spinner in her land to mess with her supply line and destroy her granaries, try to impair relationship between her and the Land of Fire and Land of Earth.For Ming Gui just send letters to the other Rivals and their vassals bordering the Land of Stars.Since I took the Land of Lightning, Lady Inazuma end up in the Land of Earth where her small army should be very busy trying to deal with the raid, I'm sure I can talk Kyojo and Jin to focus on Earth, and maybe help them with star seer's chart of Earth.Try to steal the work of Gobbla and Kugutsu once I learned about them.
>>98316723>risky gamblesWhich is what I have been saying about her not over committing. When I said drawn out in my last comment I should clarify that I meant a massive troop expenditure that could lead to attrition over time. Her slow and steady dominance is her nibbling a bit of territory from someone and fortifying it, and then nibbling some more, over and over until you have lost a quarter of your territory. People who go land of Earth have to be extra careful of that from all of their rivals.
>>98316769but overcomiting would be kinda bad for any warlord because well your leaving yourself exposed to other rivals. Like its just a final fuck you if I am going down than I am taking you with me its not a viable long term strategy.
Okay but how do you deal with that crazy Kyojo chick? Try to match her navy and blockade the islands/sink that giant ship?
>>98315098Land Transformation is only good if you're using to get as many resources as possible for your empire. It could actually save your elitist build if you plan on using mortals for everything. Imagine how big your empire could be if farmers could easily gain a great bounty from the earth. Then most of the population can do other things, like go to war and breed constantly. That's how you can make hive cities. Swarm the whole world in a great tide of mortals, while your elites take care of the heavy hitters.
>>98316795Yes but it is extra bad for her because she is in the land of stars. As a comparison Oni Queen could reasonably commit a greater percentage of her army to an offence secure that the bastion eternal will hold and that at most only two rivals could attack it while her offense focuses on the third. Land of Stars is open and bordered by 5 rivals so her army is going to be securing things more than most and of course this is her spec as a literal turtle.
>>98316454>I think this might be the first Overlord as human build I've seen:(https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#96130108
>>98316817Conquest or defense? For defense just fortify your coast and don't let troops land, for conquest you gotta out navy her. Indirect attacks could be really effective too, the criminal guy could really exploit the land of water bane, and her insanity could be exploited in different ways.
Demon Slayer cyoa when? I want a sassy pet crow that talks back to me.
>>98316769but if you're in the land of earth it's very difficult to counter this strategy, as it's difficult to control all your territory
>>98316847Is there a map or something? Like all these lands are super damn vague, don't you also technically boarder all of them since you essentially boarder every rival? Since they can be selected as a nemesis
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Generic slayer of demons CYOA when?I want empty the hells of demonic scum.
>>98316886Yea it's right here>>98315163 under seats of power. I actually missed it too but an anon made an image build that used the map to show his alliances a thread or two ago. It seriously changed my builds and yea all this pontificating is based on this map. I don't want to overthink things like being landlocked but this map seriously changes things and in particular I don't think the land of stars is a very good territory.
>>98316886The map is top left of the Seat of Power section on the first page, and you can only take a rival next to you as nemesis, so Stars cannot take Water, Water can only take Wind and/or Earth etc.
>>98316878Yea land of Earth basically has to accept some early losses imo
>>98316905Give me a couple of months anon.
>>98316910Ohh.. there is a map that really changes up the dynamics of things as it allows one to consider which warlords are likely to clash with one another.
>>98316888very cook tok, thanks for sharing with us
>>98316239>Can Lady Lian summon from your beast clan too ? Only one person can be the summoner of a beast clan at the same time.So only you can summon your beast clan, not lady Lian. This also stops the "breeding maxing".Imagine if that worked, had kids, brainwashed them and made them summon the Worm/tiger lord in a suicide way.
>>98317046Centipede* Lord can be infinitely summoned if you have regeneration (at least two way I found to get it).
>>98315200Wonder what other shoguns beast clans doWhat sorts of horrors does Shark Clan summon? Does Ming Gui get giant turtles to carry cannons and stuff? Can I beat the shit out a deer clan summoned thing?
>>98317066It says more summonings would eat your arms and so.I don't know if it assumes you dont regenerate the damage of the first summon or if the summon grows more costly with each use. As it starts as the easiest summon by far. While other summons are a "this country is going to have to wait for years to recover from this" or "this may make us all poor" or "this may make us all go hungry and families starving" or "I may have to fight the same lord I summoned to the death or"I risk getting raped by a fucking hyena"While the Centipede** Lord is "damn, this is annoying and gross af but I will 100% survive"
>>98317083Just use the Rabbit clan to kill the summoners before they have the chance to ever field their lord.
>>98317099>>98317066You can get that with the snake or rabbit clan too. You just have to be willing to make the sacrifice.
>>98317083>What sorts of horrors does Shark Clan summon?the Shark lord is probably an extreme despiction of a megalodon at the same level of the kraken>Does Ming Gui get giant turtles to carry cannons and stuff?probably>Can I beat the shit out a deer clan summoned thing?the lord? probably not unless you picked the combat option that makes you maybe able to fight the tiger lord and win.Even the bunny lord is a hax fighter a human can't win against. The Deer lord is probably a giant deer with giant horns that can fight beings like the boar lord.The war summons? you should win against several if you picked the combat path
>>98317066Sure the hyena lord can also be indefinitely summoned as long as you survive getting raped by her. It's more of a question of sanity will you remain sane enough getting yourself eaten from the inside by thousands of centipedes again and again as they continuously nible upon your regenerating flesh.
>>98317111>megalodon at the same level of the krakenIsnt the kraken said to be the strongest of all lords if in water?
>>98317083Just shoot a canon at it and the beast lord shall flee
>>98315265I'm gonna be honest, I never really read OR back when it first came out, I just stopped reading the general when it popped up to dominate the discussion, and then I learned that the general split because of it. But... That's it? It's a decent CYOA, a bit meta, and it focuses on tank's points autism a lot, but overall, not too bad of a read. I'll probably make a build someday. But... Really? We ruined the general over this? What the hell was so compelling over the CYOA that people went insane? The waifus? The metanarrative? (This isn't bait, I'm genuinely curious and I skipped out on the general threads just before the split so I legitimately don't know.)
>>98317128Sure but making a child only takes 9 months and you can have multiple wife thats not that expensive and this is fantasy china so there are prob at least 100 mil people in the earth kingdom so the snake is almost free.
>>98317136Maybe but if Gui has giant turtles, I see no reason not to ally with her so I can request to ride one
>>98317140people love lore
>>98317130Its said to be the largest and arguably the strongest. The largest is undisputed, the text says it clearly and it makes sense."Arguably the strongest" is... arguably false. Is one of the strongest surely, as it can fight other rival lords even on land. But the Dragon is clearly the strongest. The whole clan is just the Dragon Lord, who was never wounded nor defeated. The Dragon is clearly portrayed as the strongest beast lord.In water its probably the strongest but I would say its a case of Hyena vs Tiger. I think the Tiger is stronger but not to the point he can always overpower the Hyena and win.Shark Lord is probably somewhat weaker but still on the level of the kraken and can win
>>98317140The worldbuilding it pretty much has the best worldbuilding of all cyoas. Make a compelling enough world and the players will be entrapped in it for days on end.
>>98317145>Sure but making a child only takes 9 months and you can have multiple wife thats not that expensiveIF you are talking about the Rabbit lord, it asks a "cherished heir". You can't just go into breeding machine mode. Its a loss that will affect you emotionally. You have to cherish the kid
>>98317140You only skimmed the tip of the iceberg. Those who had read everything are enlightened.https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl
>>98317145>so the snake is almost free.the snake is like Lady Orochi. A great power with great sacrifices that may make people go against you.The text of the right of the serpent lord has peasants complaining about it and wondering if the shogun has been infected by the cruelty of the snakes.Its meant to be a "okay, I can't abuse this or my people will kill me" its the one summon whose risk is rebellion
>>98317140It has an almost unlimited depth
>>98317195Good lord there's more than 19 pages (already an insane length for a CYOA). I'll give it a look but damn.
>>98317215The stuff in the imgchest beyond the CYOA is mostly just hidden lore stuff people found on their own by digging around in the google drive folder - secret races, historical maps, the timeline, and so on.Nothing will come close in how everything is interconnected and how cool it is too see the greater picture forming when you piece things together on your own.
>>98317140>What the hell was so compelling over the CYOA that people went insane?People's egos, as ever, ruin everything on the Earth.The desire to be seen, to be praised and worshiped, to leave a pathetic legacy. We hate namefags for a reason, a reason the unwashed masses forget every day.
>>98317227Gotta say, the charts in the imgchest you shared are really helpful to understanding the shape of things beyond "I want to kill 0^0 for mouthing off at me constantly". I realize that I was just mostly skimming through the options of the base CYOA, well, as a CYOA, rather than reading it like a book, but still, good to have it packaged and... well, not up front, but available for purview.
>>98315098I don't think I could see myself taking it, unless there were twice as many points for traits. As far as aesthetic for it, it would be filled with unnatural shadows, and extensive plant growth that if you look closely most plants aren't connected to the ground but fade into shadows. Many of the plants would be shaped from metals, crystals, or other unexpected materials.
>>98316982Thanks, anon. I do my best to make every image build I make really cool, and it is really cool of you to acknowledge that.
>>98317295well from the meta level it makes sense why "I want to kill 0^0 for mouthing off at me constantly" is the idea on the surface level. The whole system was made by the elder gods to use you as a narrative tool against Charlie. Is there a better puppet than just using the ignorant masses that just accept the narrative spoon fed to them as fact.
>>98317197I feel like there are ways around this. People rebel because they are scared that they or their loved ones might be next. If you remove this fear you can keep most people on your side. By saying that an ethnic/religiouse minority is evil, greedy, lesser, not human, working for the enemy or whatever you can keep your population content coz they dont have to fear anything and the people you are sacrificing "deserve it".
>>98317361Imagine being the Elder Gods and watching anon ignore the entire usurper situation to zero-in on resurrecting the lichyard
>>98317361Well there's that, but also, I'm not generally a fan of characters that treat the world they exist in like a Paradox mapgame, no matter their motivations or ultimate character.
>>98317368>YMRD: Joke's on you, I'm into that shit
>>98317361>Is there a better puppet than just using the ignorant masses that just accept the narrative spoon fed to them as fact.Woah cool, Tank predicted mcyoaggers
>>98317376To the elder gods it pretty much is a paradox mapgame, they had ended and reset the world at least 3 times already.I am not sure if anything is even an actual threat to them considering how much more powerful they are than everyone else. Like they are most likely limiting themselves for the plot.At least from what I gauged from some of the answers Tank gave.
>>98317368JNPL would probably be disappointed because she is anti-undeathYMRD well she would probably like it that your pursuing some obscure worldbuilding stuff of hersSRTR will be probably be okay with it as long as you are entertaining and fuck some shit up. Considering that a lot of people probably won't like the lichyard coming back there will be enough conflict to entertain her.
I'm so tired of outer reincarnation...
>>98317465My apologies anon, if it makes you feel better, I was back in the og threads going insane with everyone else over the spam and thread monopolization too, I was just curious about a bit of general culture that I missed.
>>98317465Good. I'll continue posting it.
>>98315831Is this complete? I was sure it was just a WIP.
I had dream about a Super Hero CYOA with elemental/caster powers only. At first I snubbed it, but then I went back and played it, and it was actually fun.
>>98317751Most likely, it works as a self contained cyoa and your definitely not getting an updated considering this thing is over 7 years old
>>98317776https://imgchest.com/p/9ryd5l9w4kzLeviathan is basically a caster if you think about it.
>>98317957It's probably just because no one else really takes it and I like being a special snowflake, but Mercury has grown on me a lot.
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>>98316817Lure her into a trap, even if she knows its a trap she's too bloodlusted to give a shit and walk right to it. Then, board the ship and, stay with me now, do your best to capture her (how do you do this? Idk). Then, you want to chop her up into nine pieces, and place each piece into a jar. That should remove her as a threat until you figure out a way to convince her to join your side. Then, capture the boat to turn it into the flagship of your fleet.
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>>98318340>pump and dumping authorAre anons that shameless?
>>98318368Yes. Why do you think no one cares about Italics anymore?
>>98318213Daily reminder that Ultimate God has a monotheistic IE Ultimate god and you're not her, never will be her, and no amount of powerscaler brainrot will prove this wrong.
>>98318390But we're all still waiting for redux and psy?>what about the new onesWhat about them?
>>98313104was haning around tg for years by then, slowly single cyoa threads appeared that were spun more tg than the buttons and pills on b, then it became a general one day
>>98318573It's not very good at its own premise in general.
>>98318573Only if you ignore all the text explaining how limited Skai is.
>>98318574>redux You mean the actual release of Magi Case instead of the alpha early access version?
>>98318624>powerscaler brainrotDiscarded.
Has a power in an cyoa ever confused you? Or you thought it wasn’t explained thoroughly enough? Pic related. Can I even use my powers through the portal? How else did the first Itima rein in the other Blessed? Are the portals visible to others?
>>98318825itima balls
>>98318732powerscale these nuts in your mouth
>>98318825Probably left ambiguous. If you can use your powers through the portal then you are probably an unbeatable bastard who just has to scry to kill.
>>98318825Wasn’t there only one single person who chose to be Itima?
>>98318879The no sex thing is a serious bummer. Even as an anon who loves Golem type choices I don't want to give that up.
>>98318892It’s the most powerful stone at a great cost, indeed.
>>98318892My mistake Itima is the eternity in a small room choice
>>98318901You get to be god for one day every hundred years, yes.
Delayed gratification cyoa:An unknown entity beyond time has chosen you at random for a test of wisdomOf your ability to calculate delayed gratificationYou will receive the what you choose in a single lump sum after the sum of the days you have elected to wait is overThe gift will be delivered through an arbitrary magical means of your choosing that does not impart any meaningful additional valueIf you are dead by that time, that sucks.All options may be chosen multiple timesThe gifts available are:A days worth of canned food : A dayA friend : 1 week10% increase in strength (Additive) : 1 month1 million dollars (Adjusted for inflation): 1year1 year without aging : 1year+5 iq : 3 yearsYour waifu : 5 yearsFlight : 4 yearsMinor elemental power : 10 yearsMinor psychic power : 12 years1 year of immortality : 10 yearsDivine right to rule a country of your choice : 25 years(Divine right is not enforced, but is recognized instinctively by all priests and the particularly devout of any religion)A full and detailed explanation of any one question under 100 words: 30 yearsAlternately, you may choose an extremely good sandwich and 200 dollars right now
>>98319047>1 year without aging : 1year>1 year of immortality : 10 years
>>98319047Canned food is pretty good, but I can't sustain myself on canned food alone.Strength is good, but not that valuable in modern world. Being supernaturally super strong wouldn't help if you can just be blown up by a tank or a drone.Million dollars is also great, but it also carries risk, and to be honest there's not that much I want to buy anyway, so money isn't that important to me.If 1 year without aging allows me to queue more years with the ageless years counting as waiting for the next year, then it's the top pick - infinite immortality. But I will err on the side of caution and assume that there's a cooldown of an aging year in between each, so the option is simply doubling my lifespan. I don't really care.IQ is not worth the wait.My waifu is a great pick if the waifu comes with supernatural powers, otherwise the wait is kind of too big. Still tempting, though.Flight is worthless, and so are minor powers.I presume that 1 year of immortality means 1 year of invincibility - which is worthless, especially given the colossal wait.Divine right is pointless when any country worth ruling is mostly secular.Question is stupid if I have to wait for 30 years - and maybe the answer to what I am curious about will already be found by then, anyway.Therefore, my choice is...>The power of friendship!There are 52 weeks in a year.In 25 years, that's 1300 friends.I choose 1300 friends. That's a lot better than divine right to rule. And at least a few of these friends would have to be both female and willing to upgrade their status to wife, making the choice superior to waifu.
>>9831904712x extra strenbth2 million dollarsWork out for three years (to maximize the benefit of the 2.2x power boost), then end up as a fairly rich and strong dude who can do whatever he wants
>>983190471 million dollars.Probably won't even make it to end of the year honestly.
>>98319047My waifu is a god, so I'll take her.
>>98319157Surely you can hold out for a million?
>>983190475 million dollars (on a hedge fund) and my Waifu (do I get to choose from anime or is it subconscious?). Having enough money and love is probably all I need in life, a decade of wait is well worth it.Some comments:>10% increase in strength (Additive) : 1 monthYou can become the strongest person alive easily with a few years.>+5 iq : 3 yearsEvery decade puts you a standard deviation over where you started. 145 is genius, 3 or 4 decades turns you into one of the smartest people alive if you're average.>Flight : 4 yearsNeeded the superpower of breathing rarefied air if you want to fly high.>Divine right to rule a country of your choice : 25 years100% chance of becoming the pope if you choose the Vatican, high chance of election on religious countries as you get campaigning power.
>>98319255Not if I became homeless. Tis a fate worse than death.
This is so fascinatinghttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrxAMoEujZsuf8JjIRNKceTF1AJ7JGl9k
>>98319346I honestly don't understand the appeal of lore video essays.
>>98319533Learning is fun
>>98319066They only start after the timer endsImmortality also includes immunity to physical damage>>98319124This is a one time deal, and a year without aging doesn't de-age you, so you can't meaningfully chain itThe waifu has no meaningful supernatural abilities>And at least a few of these friends would have to be both female and willing to upgrade their status to wife, making the choice superior to waifu.Yes but none of them are (Her)>>98319321I did actually think about the vatican thingIt's legalThe waifu actually chooses you.Build ratings:>>98319124A-Makes meaningful use of opportunities presented and is economical with their choices. The entity would be proudAlthough I would have to wonder if there are any diminishing returns in getting everything only after you are over 50>>98319154BWorks within the limits of things they like>>98319157BIf you need to live you need to live>>98319233DTest of wisdom failed.>>98319321AA perfect balance of delayed gratification
CYOAs for this feel?
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>>98308694>posts reddit cyoa>reddit meta cyoa>doesn't even finish posting itwhy do this?
>>98319811No Gift is pretending.
>>98319827>metafags are reddit and can't committypical
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>>98319827He realized his mistake.
>>98319832>cyoa about being a living magic system>miscellaneous perks instead of designing a magic system
>>98319830True all of them are enslaved puppets.
>>98319868>this cope again
>>98319747Outer Reincarnatio via Fiert.>>98319867Apparently you're cannibalizing the one attached to the meta, not creating your own.
WHERE IS GIL ;____;
>>98319830What about Christine?
>>98319897Playing Exalted Conquest.
>>98319875Coping for what?It's a fact.
>>98319897In my rape dungeon, recovering from the last rape.
>>98319945So everyone loving you in cyoas are sexdolls? Retard.
>>98319875I mean, they ARE created from the ground up for the executive purpose of being your 10/10 personalized waifus. In some way we can even liken them to a free product, since everyone who got the Entropist package is getting them for free like company fruit baskets.
>>98319960No, but beings created in universe specifically to be sex dolls are sex dolls.
>>98319982They're created to be your wives/commanders and bring forth stronger hybrids for the descendants perks. Go play it again retard.
>>98319992That just makes them versatile, multi-purpose sex dolls.>>98319902It will release one day, most likely years from now.
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>>98320015>versatile, multi-purpose sex dollsSome would say this is the ultimate form of waifus. Can't leave you, consider you more important than itself, noted fetishes to project yourself onto, a powerset that compliments yours so she can be a tool, etc.
>>98320039I always liked Tau; they're a cool addition to the setting
>>98319992Can they not be your lovers/comrades?Also >Created to birth eugenics maxed armiesNot helping your case bro.
>>98315163>ShogunLord of RevelsWarlord - Strength of SelfLand of WaterThe Hyena Clan>AdvisorsMadame OrochiDubo DadandeChing ShihYoku>Forces - A Swarm of LocustsSlayer Saint x5 (Cannoneer, Rocketeer, Poisoner, Spear, Kunai)War Vessels x5 (250*, 5000*)Grand Cannons x2 (80)Dragonfire Rockets x2 (80)Engineers x2 (1600)Shinobi x2 (200)Peasant Militia x7 (70000)>RivalsKhulutunSum Yung Gai>AlliesKyojo the CruelWarcrimes and Crime go together so well. The Peasant Militia will be all hyena hybridized by Orochi as our main land forces. The sea will be our main drug exporting and human trafficking route, able to bombard coastal cities down if they resist before sending in the revelers to torment the locals for resisting and forcibly addicting them to our drugs anyway. The huge amount of people we can rotate through will serve to expedite Orochi's research. The Saint Slayers will help round out the army specialties and instill a little discipline into the army. Will tag team Khulutun with Kyoji before turning on each other in a great showdown. If possible, I will recruit her as an advisor, if not, Orochi research fodder. Sum Yung Gai will realize that wuxia is no match for opium just like the Boxers.
>>98320074>Can they not be your lovers/comrades?You can avoid picking them, but that's be retarded. Imagine refusing people that can be the best friend, the trusted second, the best friend and the loyal comrade at the same time.>Created to birth eugenics maxed armiesStop crying about strategies that works;
>>98320081I'm not crying about strategy or saying you should not pick them I'm just honest admitting they are brainwashed sex dolls at the end of the day.
>>98320112Is it really brainwashing if they're like that from the start?
>>98319960Yes anon, the fake "people" made from magic to be magically obedient fuckpets are - by definition- sexdolls. The gifts arent real people, theyre golems programmed to be how they are (unconditionally obedient, love you above all else, etc). >>98320115Its not brainwashing because theyre fundamentally not people, they dont have free will. Theyre robots designed to suck your dick.
>>98320206>Theyre robots designed to suck your dickAnd that's why they're superior to 3DPD
>>98320210Thats great, you like the sexdolls, they remain sexdolls. Theyre puppets, not people.
>>98320206damn they're just like anons
>>98320224Anons are obedient sexdolls?
>>98320112We get it, bro. You watched a stupid movie that just came out and now you feel light you need to post opinions that nobody cares about but you Don't you have anyone else to pay attention to you? Or are you going to make this a regular thing in the fucking CYOA thread?
>>98320227Have you seen the build lists?
>>98320037>gue'vesa fire blade (pulse rifle)I am perfectly capable of defending myself, thank you. But I shall not relinquish the opportunity to show my dominance by presenting these ornaments of flesh. They must be the most attractive ones.>earth caste technicians>false tech priests>demiurge kindredHrmm? Yes yes, we will practice diplomacy. But for now we must secure a dig site. Very, very important. It is utterly vital to the greater. Yes greater good thats what I said. Anyways, report to the earth caste for cybernetic augments. Yes they are Tau made. After that, I want you to work with the false priests. We are going to install these devices in the human populace. No I am not going to tell you what they do. It is for the greater will, good. I meant good.>structural analyzer>holographic projector deviceI have taken this device to further analyze structural integrity. I do not want any of the technology we discover to be damaged in any conceivable way. Where is my projector? On my person obviously. Remarkably easy to modify. And, to anonymously procure, might I add. What did I mean by this, im not going to tell you. Thats for you to find out, later.>vehicleI possess a vehicle already. No you may not see it.>The BoreExcellent. A starting point for our mining operations.>more databanks>containmentIf you must lnow I have made quite a hobby of inquiring of the nature of flesh in these universe. It fascinates me, how life evolves and the mechanisms ot takes. Like humans, for instance. Male, and female...practically two species themselves wouldn't you agree?>what?What?>integrate with guilds>infrastructure repair>archaeotech searchIt's VITAL for the digsite to be undisturbed. Any guilds which possesses the ability dig deeper is to be brought to our fold. Any disrepair to this WRETCHED place is to be remedied at ONCE.>fractured rebels>thorough survey>last sighting of "an'on" after the holographic projector on his waist was shot by a rebel sniper
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>>98320271>Engineers get to do everything everyone else can do and moreWhat did the author mean by this?
>>98320229I haven't watched obsession yet.I'm also working on a CYOA where you can brainwash waifus to love you, it is an interesting concept.
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>>98320271>Location:The Halls of Power>Modification:Path of the Psion>Specialties:Slider>Boons:Map, Security CodesUse the map to determine the locations with the most valuable resources.>Contacts:Mad Scientists, Analysis AISell the map, security codes, and eventual loot to the scientists in exchange for augmentations, particularly mental ones.>Hostile Native:Great BeastJust teleport away.
>>98320411>a CYOA where you can brainwash waifus to love youjust make a """"""""""""true"""""""""""""" love perk
>>98320337Chemist chads are the true wizards, but, like all science, you’re not guaranteed to become a certified badass. What if you just want to discover the best way to jerk off? Focusing all your resources and attention on just that?
>>98320503>Species:Cecalian>Powers:Camouflage, Regeneration, Sleek, Armored, Predator, Mega-Fauna>Sea Magic:Aquis, Ocean's Soul>Equipment:Armor 1, Melee 4>Companions:Talora, Maggie, NerissaThe princesses accompanying me makes their cities' allegiance practically in the bag already. Maggie's intel can be used as a bargaining chip.
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>>98321103>History:Medusa>Race:Type: EldritchModifiers: The Greatest Irony of All…, Strange Biology, Fragment of Yore, Typhon, Ancient Blood, The Heritage of a New Age>Life Events:A Path Unwritten, Oneiros Apprentice, Knowledge beyond Aeons, The Wretched Bloodline>Oneiros:Intensity: The River FlowsSize: The BalanceExpansion: Super-ChargeCharacteristic: ShiftingInfluence: AwarenessMain Path: GreenOneiros Weaving Grade: Hypnos MonarchPerks: Spell Casting 2.5, Destruction, Will of the Red, The Weakest Link, Into the Throes of Passion, Protection, The Heaviest Link, Understanding, The Furthest Link, Enjoyment, Shapeshifting Link, Duty, The Anchor Point, One Percent, The Strongest LinkPath Specializations: Red Path Weaver, The Red Mage, The What Weaver? (Spell Casting, The Weakest Link)>Perks:The Thing from the Stars (Reality Warping), True Sorcery, Detachment, The Absolute, Eyes of Laplace>Fortune:Unique Oneiros Technology, The One True Grimoire, The Necronomicon, Elven Technology>Scenery:Six Ominous Stars, Catastrophes Sympathizer
>>98321105qrd on what this is?I must've missed when it released.
>>98321016>Artemis>Yohualticetl>Cu ChulainnMax level Speed + Reflexes makes these guys the most dangerous.
>>98321112meant for >>98321103
>>98321112It's a cyoa made by an author called cityanon who is usually only in mcyoag. Not sure if it has ever been posted in cyoag except now, but it was released in 2024 https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91793317/#91802238.
>>98321105*Adding Knowledgeable 1 and True Monster 3 to the build.The latter is a matter of course with Catastrophes Sympathizer.
>>98306677I've grabbed the imgchest link and will add it in the upcoming update.
>>98314319Grabbed that one too, to add to the next update.
>>98321103https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91813025/#91822357There's apparently a v1.2. From a short skim, I saw that it has some not insignificant changes to points.
>>98315163What happens if I beat a nemesis? Do I get the advantages of their land?
>>98315163What's with all the obscure franchiseslop lately?Are we fucking jumpchain now? yuck.
>>98319047I choose the sandwich and 200 dollars, but I pick this option 10^180 times, instantly destroying the world in a torrent of sandwiches and money.
>>98321437The entity responds:"Oh, I hadn't thought about that"And promptly explodesYou won the game anon!
>>98319047Million a year for 3 years, 5 for the waifu, another 3 for the million, and use the rest of my life for the 30 year option and ask the entity exactly how to garunatee humanity can be prosperous and not die in some sort of scarcity or climate based apocalypse and how can my children complete it by themselves.
>>98315163Is Tiger Clan the biggest trap option? Unless you want to go full nah, I'd win, he always threatens lethality when summoned, and the circumstances in which you would summon him require you to be facing multiple other beast lords since you are literally at the point where you can take one on yourself if that was the issue. And in such a case, even assuming you win, you are greatly exerted and still have to deal with why you summoned him in the first place. The same applies to the mid tier summons for your soldiers too.
>>98321764>You will receive the what you choose in a single lump sum after the sum of the days you have elected to wait is over
>>98321802I don't think you need to win the duel, just send someone strong enough to put up a good fight.Why would you send a random soldier against the war summon, send someone that could duel the Lung if you have one instead.If you take Strength of Self, you could go somewhere by yourself and summon a bunch of Heavy Claw Infantry when needed.
>>98321810Okay?
>>98321892Yeah but there's always a chance of getting maimed. You're gonna have to fight a dozen ish tiger warriors to get an infantry size worth a damn. Just a couple of squads means they're gonna get separated and mobbed to death.So are you gonna risk having grievous injuries before a campaign? Keep in mind, even if you don't plan on fighting, injuries mean you can't focus on strategy or diplomacy as well as you would injured.
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>>98322011>>98321892>>98321802WAIT WAIT I JUST HAD AN IDEAWe send Yoku to fight an infinite number of tiger warriors and just drown out enemies with our superior infantry!
>>98322022I honestly don't knowIs there something else going on right now?Is matterkike dead?Is everyone working on OC for the contest?
>>98322011Multiple healing options are available and you can use a second if need be. Tiger is kinda gimmicky but it fills a key option for a strength of self build. Octopus is the worst clan imo because the Lord has the worst price.
>>98322031Yea using seconds can scale it up nicely. My build >>98315207 took Sum Yung Gai because he could second against Lung himself.
>>98321802Summoning Lung is less likely to be reactive IMO. He is an offensive summon for a true warmonger who seeks a force multiplier for themselves or their worthy second. I.E he is going to be summoned first in most Lord contest.
>>98322031Mostly an issue of convincing Yoku the lazy dragon would be too damn anoid to fight constantly so while you could get a sizable army there are limits to it. Then there is also the risk of her getting injured from constant fighting.
>>98321403>ReunificationMust be another Dido plot...
>>98321403>franchise>obscure indie gameDo you have the tism?
>>98321337I mean... if you beat a nemesis it means you beat him... you killed and conquered his terrain. If you have enough people you can occupy the land.If you can do it effciently enough to get the advantages of their land... yes?
>>98322209Everything not original is franchiseslop.
>>98322155I mean, just pick the sweet talker archetype, and fuck her into compliance.Plus, she's a dragon! She wouldn't have trouble with the rank and file, just Lung.
>>98321802I have a better question, other than Wukong probably giving you good advice, why the hell would you make contract with the monke clan? Their warriors don't seem all that useful, and fruit juice can't be THAT good of an export item
Beast clans ranking.-FHyena. Bad summoning method, like, imagine summoning a fucking hyena you have to dance like a retard. Their utility is meh, their war is good and not too costly, their beast lord is fucking stupid. "Satisfy me" is the most vague thing, you could do everything in your power to satisfy it and it could be not enough and she rapes you anyway.-E Tiger. Bad by paradox design. Summoning method? not bad. Utility? good. War? good but you need to fight the squadron leader. So summoning them basically makes your enemy and you fight them, totally not usable 2 of the 3 paths. Beast lord? the same but worse, now you have to win against a Beast Lord, something you may very well fail to do. Now you need the conquering path and 1 specific specialization to have just the opportunity to win, and even then, why dont just fight yourself if you are going to fight the Tiger lord anwyay? at least against the war option you just fight the squadron leader so you can summon more than 1 and fight 1, but in this case you fight 1 and summon 1.-DOctopus. Summoning method? easy and simple. Utility? very useful as it increases your economy. War? very good and the payment is not only not too bad but also made easier with their utility. Beast Lord? A win button in water and a strong beast lord in land, but the payment is too much. It doesnt matter who, you will pay with whoever you care the most, which could be someone important or not for the war, but in anyway it will do emotional damage. Even the biggest psychopaths are not safe as it will just kill you. Also, too much focuses in water.-C Monkey. Summoning method? not the worst not the best. Utility? good enough. War? bad, suffers from the tiger problem of fucking you up. Beast lord? the saving grace. Free advice, cost? either too much (being 5 years under a rock basically means you lose the war) or reduced if he likes you or you do it because you must, this last part is what makes it better.
>>98321113They could solo an entire team without breaking a sweat. The last page just straight up ruined the CYOA.
>>98322292>not taking a Slayer Saint with the Giant Boulder specialization to learn fromngmi
>>98322313>Slayer Saint>Saint SlayerSoon, right bros?
>>98322289It is a pacifist spec. Sending the war monkeys to sabotage a rivals territory instead of actual units could be extremely effective, the alcohol has great diplomatic value, Wukongs advice essentially gives you an extra advisor, and his price is payable as a last resort if you are attacked (and if you truly needed him the price goes down).
>>98322292>why dont just fight yourself if you are going to fight the Tiger lord anwyay?Two badasses are better than one
>>98322292>BBoars. Summoning method? not good, having to use your own blood and cooking, wasting time, but I imagine you can basically use a drop. It still makes you lose time with the cooking. Utility? Incredible, except for battle it grants stronger horses to move around. War? incredibly good, and while their cost can become a problem if you abuse them, if you use them sparingly they are not a problem. Beast lord? only possible to do if you are in the Land of Earth, your canonical land. So in canon the beast lord is costly but usable, everywhere else is a suicide.>ASerpent. Summoning method? good. Utility, not incredible but useful, specially in a farming country like the Land of Earth. War? useful as an assassination method and 1 life of a dangerous enemy vs 1 life of an useless criminal of your land or low production no family man is worth. Beast lord? One of the easiest to use, given the size of the peasant militia you could summon him dozens of times in the Land of Earth. So whats the problem and why is not higher? because it makes your country go against you, you are sacrificing them and they know it. Its a game of pushing your country's anger before they kill you and thats a dangerous game.>SCentipede. Summoning method? Like the boars but better as you dont cook. Utility? Gross but useful. War? Incredibly useful AND incredibly cheap. Cattle, prisioners from war, criminals, all can be used so you dont hurt your useful population and its a 1 body cost. The Beast lord even if gross can be survived 1 time 100%, the question is if further uses makes it less likely to survive even if you healed, or if you can heal fully from that. But you have a guranteed trump card while other beast lords are in some cases a suicide.
>Get a new router put in from my ISP>internet connectivity issuesWhy can't they just leave me alone...
>>98322359>SSRabbit. Summoning method? The best one, incredibly easy and quick. Utility? Incredible, information is key. War? absolutely incredible and maybe the possible best use if used with intelligence, position is key, you can turn a chase into a pincer attack, you can escape basically any fight, can do surprise attacks, assassinations etc... and their cost is a secret, unless you have a 0 intel policy you are bound to find a lot of secrets about a lot of people, and they don't even do anything with those secrets just keep them for themselves. Beast lord? One of the best, it kills a whole city of the enemy, its main drawback is other beast lords survive this and then become a problem. Being the weakest beast lord against another beast lord. Their cost? high, its a cherised heir after all, but the good part is the kid doesn't die, it goes to the moon to do who knows what but I doubt its malicious, so fathers can justify their actions somewhat to themselves>SSSFoxes. Summoning method? Bad but manageable. In theory these summons are a family treasure basically, and you have been trained all your life to be the heir of the clan, so given this summoning method at least you should be good with 1 instrument, its still not a good one but far from the worstUtility? Useful in all paths of conquering, diplomatic aid is needed always in a war, even if your strategy is to conquer everything through force unless you are goku and can win against the rest of the world alone, you will need allies.War? This is the best part. Illusion is op, as information is key in a war. Appearing to be weak when you are strong, and appearing to be strong when you are weak is a key part in wars, their ability makes this possible and easy. But the best part is that unlike the rest of summons, they dont disappear after a while, they are employed. They stay in the world and work for you, so as long as you do the festival once a month and protect their shrines, you get a new incredibly units
>>98322404The beast lord, the fox lord is incredibly useful. Basically the best Beast Lord against another beats lord (except maybe the rabbit, her unique counter). You are almost never using her on her own, but if the enemy summons their beast lord, you can turn that summon into a double trouble, first by making it fight their own side, so you dont have to fight their beast lord anymore but they do. And second because they still have to pay for it.The Fox Lord is the best beast lord summon because is the absolute counter of other beast lords and used right it means you win a war. The payment is harsh to be honest, it invites problems, possible for the adminstration path but very crippling with the other 2. But how much you get out of it makes it worth. So its the best clan because their War is one of the best and Beast lord is the best of their classes, while having low requirements and War specially being a long term investment.
Danmachi? Pretty please??
>>98322429The monthly festivals are gonna fuck your economy good thoImagine all your citizens getting piss drunk during a war period
>>98322458Tell me the best familia to join and maybe I’ll post it and make a build for it. Maybe.
>>98322429You forgot the best part. She is a waifu.
>>98322460Its once a month and as foxes are clearly japanese based, those are japanese festivals. They are not festivals were people become piss drunk, but wear kimonos, masks, see fireworks etc... not like festivals in poland where people's objective is to become unconscious.Festivals if done right are also not a bad thing for economy, they favor trade and boost moral.They could be taken advantage by enemies, yes, but they are still one of the cheapest prices for War summons and if you take into account those foxes are your workers and not one time summons, they become top 1-2 cheapest summon depending on how much you value the secrets of the rabbit war summon
>>98322460Plus nothing's stopping your enemies from attacking you during this very public festival. Or, you know, infiltrating it since its easy to access.
>>98322496Sadly, I didnt take that into account because to fuck her you need to pay her summoning cost without the fighting benefit. And unless you are 100% sure you are dying and not winning the war, you are not going to do that.Maybe if you win the war and become the absolute shogun you could someday do that 9 days party with her, but no in any other situation
>>98322476Freya >= Loki > Ganesha > Hathor = Ishtar > Hermes >= Apollo
>>98322518She will fuck you normally though (read last paragraph), you only have to pay for the 9 day tantric bliss version.
>>98322476Custom
>>98322548hehe bubbles owo
>>98322540I took that as her tempting you to pay the cost for the 9 days sex party. Teasing you to make a bad decision. If she fucks you normally cool
>>98322563Yea it isn't 100% clear. I take it as her wanting to party in the mortal world but it could be that she is angling for her cost to be paid.
>>98322497They are japanese inspired but I think its a stretch to day they're japanese festivals>an absolute parade of luxuries open to all and easily accessedWhich sounds like it would include lots of alcohol. Plus the fox spirits are going to be in the festival disguised, and who knows what kind of shit they'll do.
>>98322563>Teasing you to make a bad decision.What better way to do that than a small taste?
>>98322586So all in all it sounds like Fox is the official master of coin spec, like tiger is the master of self spec.
>>98320411'sup husanon
>>98320411>CYOA where you can brainwash waifus to love youIsn't that just every waifu cyoa?
>>98320206>theyre golems programmed to be how they are (unconditionally obedient>gift explictly said to have their own wishes, goals and being capable of not obeyinglarper.>>98320074>Can they not be your lovers/comrades?They can not be your lovers.They will always be comrades, asking that is like asking if a summoned skeleton can backstabd you
>>98322460the festivals are localized to the shrine cities so its not like its fucking over your whole economy, and you can technically reduce the cost by shoving a ton of shrines into the same city
>>98322702>>gift explictly said to have their own wishes, goals and being capable of not obeyingAre they capable of not loving you?
>>98322708Yes
>>98322715Larper.
>>98322718>Can't readNow I understand. Was the gift hater always someone that didn't read the cyoa?
>>98322723>claims the gifts can choose to not love you>says others didnt read the cyoalmao
>>98322732Larper, go read the sections beyond gifts, maybe you will find the answer if you read.Its clear you only wanted to hate on entropist, read the gifts part and ignored the rest. Gifts not loving you has been a thing since 2.0
>>98322747NTA, but isn't this inconsistent writing? Like if they are described work in one way and then its contradicted in another session how can you trust anything written in that section? Maybe they can be mind controlled or soul manipulated, maybe they will want to be with another man.
>>98322785>Maybe they can be mind controlled or soul manipulated, maybe they will want to be with another man.Anon people have enough insecurities, don't strengthen them
>>98322747lmao
>>98322799If we reverse the scenario and Anon is the one devoted via divine mandate, would he still play the CYOA?
>>98322785>NTA, but isn't this inconsistent writing? Nope. If you read it. Its not that cyoa contradicts itself, it opens another option.> Like if they are described work in one way and then its contradicted in another session how can you trust anything written in that section? Again, why talk about something you didn't read? Why is there so many larpers here? I don't talk about Outer Reincarnation because I didn't read it, its simple.To make it clear for you and the other guy. In 2.0 there was an option introduced where Gifts don't love and are very well capable of outright hating you depending on your behaviour. Even before that they have their own personalities, goals and capable of disobeying. Alta is outright stated to be very disobedient, Ebon needs to be constantly watched or will do whatever she wants against your will, Falista will literally fight you if try to harm a kid of yours.They are far from mindless obedient sex dolls and with options within the cyoa they can just be pals or hate your guts.I lost any will to talk about this anymore tho, you admitted you didn't read it and the other guy even if he doesn't admit it, its painfuly obvious. Why the fuck does people larp like the other guy? I will never understand
>>98322799>even if you mistreat and neglect them, they can never stop loving you and you will always be the most important persojn to themIts literally there explicitlyYou can put the gifts into a blender and theyll still love you above everyone else.
>>98322799All this time and you can't read.
>>98322718There's a drawback to make them not love you, and EA said that they can go cold if you neglect and/or abuse them. It's just an insanely threshold as they are wired to love you. Reaching it is possible if you're retarded or sadistic, and they'd never reach it on their own, but it is there. Much like how it's possible to get a sufficiently intelligent sexbot to avoid you out of self-preservation.
>>98322810>In 2.0 there was an option introduced where Gifts don't love and are very well capable of outright hating you depending on your behaviourYes, one of the drawbacks. In other words: not default behavior, but an induced change. >>98322816>"well if you take an optional drawback which alters their behavior then theyre different! Which means that saying theyre one way is wrong because you can change it via downsides which are not normally present!"This is frankly an entirely expected response from someone trying to defend entropist.
>>98322816NTA but I'm not sure that's a good counter argument? It proves the "love brainwashing" is the default state, since it needs active tempering via drawback to stop it, and ALSO that the whole "Gifts can not love you bro trust me" is just another layer of brainwashing technically.
>>98322822>There's a drawback to make them not love youWhich is irrelevant."theyre not golems made to suck your dick, if you take this drawback they dont love you (because they were made wrong or something"!"
>Gifts are lauded as the most in-depth waifus ever made>flashforward>muh sexdollsWhat happened?
>>98322816ugh... aren't you proving their point? Like this is a drawback you need to specifically take to no longer enable the default love geas.It even says "Are they truly gifts anymore?" implying that gifts by nature are madly in love sex slaves and if they no longer have this trait they aren't recognized as fully as true gifts.
>>98322836People who arent retarded hoodweebs bothered reading the cyoa
>>98322816wait so they can love other people if you give them this drawback?
>>98322836The people that hyped it up as the BEST THING EVAH are long gone and people had months/years to construct a personal opinion beyond "The MP was good and my Blessing was fun and thematic".Besides I still believe that "the most in-depth waifus ever made" are from Hearts Adrift, not the JJK adjacent cyoa.
>>98322824>Yes, one of the drawbacks. In other words: not default behavior, but an induced change.Default or not, its doesn't matter. Its there. >This is frankly an entirely expected response from someone trying to defend entropist.You talk about drawbacks like they can't be used. They are as much of an option as everything else. The difference between it loving being the default, and not loving a drawback. And not loving being the default and loving a perk is none.> It proves the "love brainwashing" is the default stateFirst, there is no "love brainwashing". Brainwashing by definition needs to change the mind of someone by brainwashing. They exist that way.Would you say the loyalty of an ant towards its hive is "loyalty brainwashing"?The gifts will either exist loving you or will exist not loving you. At no point they will change their mind about it, no brainwashing, it just defines their nature. Not different from making a summon loyal.Entropist is the only cyoa where people complain about something every other cyoa with waifus has. Hypocrisy
>>98322851>Hearts AdriftBold way to say Skyline Fistfight.
>>98322836The people obsessed with True Love from OR got a new thing to focus their hatred on. They go from popular cyoa to popular cyoa with the same complain.The popular phase of a cyoa is the real opinion of the people, when it passes, only the most pure 4chan retards stay and finally can spit their poison without opposition because everyone else moved.Its the same reason why after the end of all popular cyoa there is always a wave of hatred.
>>98322497>those are japanese festivals. They are not festivals were people become piss drunkWrong, the point of almost any holiday or festival is for people to get piss drunk. This is true everywhere, including japan
>>98322856>Urban ScuffleIt's the semi-direct sequel, so same package.>>98322862>The popular phase of a cyoa is the real opinion of the peopleNot necessarily true - recency bias is a thing, and it's hard to be objective in the heat of a multiplayer.
>>98322851>Hearts AdriftThat cyoa is genuinely a shitshow. Possibly the worst cyoa system with deterministic choices. If we don't count one pagers. Maybe in a visual novel it would work better. As a cyoa? uh... and the waifus are generic af with 1 personality trait. To each their own I guess, but you are not better than Tok's idea of a 'waifu'.
>>98322879Hm...I did experience it like the old cyoa books, so perhaps. What's your favorite example of waifus done right?
>>98322852>You talk about drawbacks like they can't be used.I talk about them like theyre not the default, which they arent, which makes them irrelevant to the discussion of the nature of things.If the "lonely" state was the default for gifts, and you had to pay for an option that makes them mind controlled sexdolls? Then that would change things. This does not.>And not loving being the default and loving a perk is none.Wrong. The default is "the thing as it is", with options changing it from what it is normally to something is. The default is all that matters, not every possible hypothetical.>First, there is no "love brainwashing".Correct, there is no brainwashing because the gifts arent people. Theyre constructs made to suck your dick. Sexdolls who exist to please you, with no "true nature" to be overwritten to reach that state. >Entropist is the only cyoa where people complain about something every other cyoa with waifus has.Literally* no other cyoa goes out of its way to explain that the waifus are sexdolls lacking in free will who are incapable of not loving you no matter your actions or choices towards them. Only entropist does that. Because entropist is made by insecure losers for insecure losers. If you take a waifu from whatever cyoa you want, and decide to shove hot metal rods up her ass, she will resent you and hate you for it. A gift will not, because a gift is not a person with free will but simply a golem made to please you.
>>98322876>Not necessarily true - recency bias is a thing, and it's hard to be objective in the heat of a multiplayer.Recency bias is a thing but is in that phase when most people are giving their opinion. It shows what people think of it.Its for sure a way better time than when a cyoa ends. This place is not a good one for that type. You can speak about a cyoa from 5 years ago that the general loved and suddently you receive two messages that it sucked, why? because the people that stay here is a very limited one with their own biases. Not unlike asking 4 people their political opinions and thinking the rest of the planet thinks like them. The same happens in reverse. Suddently cyoas that were hated will be spoken like a legend because its one fan talks about it years after and their opinion is the one that stays.Its the moment when the biggest amount of people give their opinion about something when it matters, not when everyone stops talking about except the minority waiting to have the opportunity to be loud.
>>98322852>every other cyoa with waifus hasno you retard, "the waifu loves you" is not the same as "the waifu is forced by her fundamental nature to love you no matter what, she is incapable of existing any other way because she is made with magic to be your fuckpet and birthing sow, you will always be the thing she loves most no matter what"
>>98322900Still, there must be a phase besides "It just released, best cyoa ever" and "That old thing is shit? Always has been." Probably right after the excitement cools down and we're re-reading it with everything fresh in our minds but without the eventual resentment/worship that crystallize later.
>>98322852>Entropist is the only cyoa where people complain about something every other cyoa with waifus has.Find one cyoa where the waifus are like that.
>>98322895> is made by insecure losers for insecure losers.nta but... where do you think you are? you are part of the most insecure group of people. Don't act like you dont belong to it. You are insecure in your insecurity, how cute.All this talk about gifts just reads like you are ragebaiting, so I ignored it, but I hope you dont think whatever you are saying without including you in the lot
>>98315265Patron Goddess: JNPLSex: FemalePerks: NoneDeath: BukiMother: Senamotis Sarmata (Lesser Yus)Father: Marsaget Sarmat (Cherv)Race: SouthlanderLanguages (Polyglot): Everman, Palatiner, Old Northern, Spriggan, EntramithraicLocation: New New York, The ExarchateInborn Gifts: Royal Claim, Noble Inclination, Intelligence, Wisdom, Ethereal Beauty, Bitter Sickness, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, All-Glimpse, Icon of IconsMentors: The Keter (Yat-Yee), Jisilbert (Tsy)Companions: Blazkho (Arsak, Upunth) (Zelo), Izbor (Her'v'), Evdokia (Myslete), Omega (Ot), Zenia, NilmatrixEncounters: On Sick Leave (The Keter), A Daring Rescue (Jisilbert), Upward Spiral (Blazkho), A Calm and a Storm (Izbor), Breaking and Entering (Evdokia) (NNY & Orthrung), Remember About Death (Omega), Shadow of God (Nilmatrix)Sentence: Lesser Yus Yat-Yee Her’v Tsy Ot Zelo Buki Cherv Youth: Magical Training, Leadership Training, Power Testing, TheologyQuest: Ameno>Finally completed the build. I decided to stop waffling about trying to find the hidden traps and tricks in the CYOA and just make this character mantle godhood through Belief (or something like it), or die trying. The idea is that she tries to pull off something similar to what 0^0 did, just from the exact opposite direction.
>>98322916OR has a perk about the characters being puppets destined to love you. Any cyoa where you are already married or dating someone strips them from their agency to choose start dating you, as fate made them do so. Any cyoa where a choices makes a character love you or guarantee they will. OR was self conscious but still did it.The only way for this to not happen is not having that option in the cyoa.
>>98322917>where do you think you are?A place that does not - for the most part - feel the need to explain that you cannot fuck up so badly your anime sexdoll hates you (like entropist does). Which makes the projection fall a bit flat on your end. There is a difference between escapism and wish fulfillment, which cyoag fundamentally is - and which all RPGs essentially are - and the things going on with that particular cyoa.
>>98322852Many people complain about Entropist's waifus because it's one the few cyoas where the waifu's eternal, unconditional love is explicit rather than implicit.
>>98322944During OR True Love discourse some people said it was like saying they couldn't score without divine intervention. Perhaps it's the same kind of annoyance?
>>98322907You must hate summoners cyoas that force your summons to obey you.A lot of cyoas making the "the waifus loves you" are making fate strip them away from their choice. Is it freedom if fate manipulated by someone else guarantees your choices? What is the difference between raping them and manipulating fate brainwash them with loving you?The few cyoas without this are shat on with "no waifus no read" make up your mind.
>>98322953>The few cyoas without this are shat on with "no waifus no read" make up your mind.NTA but cyoag will always has contradictory opinions due to not being a hive mind.
>>98322942>Okay, okay, I am escaping my reality. Okay, okay, I am doing wishfulfillment, and okay, I am insecure. But it has to be in a certain way because otherwise I feel too selfconscious and realize what I am this whole time but I am trying to lie myself about itSo I was right, insecure in your insecurity. Hope it gets better bro
>>98322937>OR has a perk about the characters being puppets destined to love youA cyoa where the setting largely revolves around grand cycles of narrative and fate ruling over characters? Where thats arguably the main overarching conflict of the setting? Where one of the choices is your fated death that you cant escape?also>has a perkSo even there its not the default>Any cyoa where you are already married or dating someone strips them from their agency to choose start dating youYou are very stupid. Cyoa characters are not real, they are created narrative entities, they never had "real" agency. This is not the same as them explicitly not having agency within the fictional world.Any cyoa which begins "in media res" has simply had the characters make choices which lead to that point. Your wife in this hypothetical cyoa where you began married is not some construct incapable of not loving you, but simply a character that made choices that lead to the point where she is your wife. Were you to start raping her or fucking the maid she would divorce you and take the kids. >Any cyoa where a choices makes a character love youHas no relation to what entropist did. Or do you not understand what exactly it is that entropist did?
>>98322963>A cyoa where...Yes. Explain to me the "themes and such" like a coping chainsawman fan but it doesn't change its fate brainwashing>So even there its not the default>literally the default if you pick the dead goddess with the best power to defeat the big villainAnd even then, you keep saying "default" like it matters, the cyoa even spells it outright for you in that "True Love" is brainwashing. Charlotte mogging you once more.>blah blah my narrative blah blah themes blah blah and such
>>98322953>You must hate summoners cyoas that force your summons to obey you.Im glad you concede the point. If you compare gifts to fucking summoned skeleton puppets or whatever. Although arguably your generic summon has more agency, because while they are bound by whatever magic keeps them obedient they can often try and work against it and try and break free. >A lot of cyoas making the "the waifus loves you" are making fate strip them away from their choiceName one. Name one CYOA where the waifu can do nothing but unconditionally love you. The waifu in waifu cyoa implicitly loves you, thats its narrative role, it does so - within the context of the cyoa - of its own choice.
>>98322977>ou keep saying "default" like it mattersBecause of course it does you retard.
>>98322959Not yet.Also it's adorable that when given absolute power and boundless possibilities, what we're arguing about it whether or not love is genuine.
>>98322879>Polaris is not better than Tok's idea of a 'waifu'Meet me outside you fucker
>>98322962>actually its the people who dont need to have an everythingproof shield immunitydog in their adventures that are more insecure!lel
>>98322953>are making fate strip them away from their choice"a situation where the waifu loves you" is not the same as "a situation where the waifu is forced to love you".A cyoa where youre the bestest mech pilot ever and some girl likes you for it does not make it so that "fate forced her to", it simply presents a situation where she does. Fate is not a thing that exists in most cyoa.
>>98322996Maybe it's a token resistance to the perk BECAUSE you don't want to admit you need it?
>>98322979Gifts this whole time has been "Superior minions ++". At the end of the day they are minions. Its not conceding any point, this has been obvious all this time.>because while they are bound by whatever magic keeps them obedient they can often try and work against it and try and break free.? this doesn't happen. Unless you are talking about X summoner powers. Minions in entropist are simply loyal as an ant is loyal to the ant queen, there is no magic constantly making them loyal, they are created loyal by instict. Think of it like Royal Guards and Meruem.>Name one. Name one CYOA where the waifu can do nothing but unconditionally love you.Any cyoa that manipulates fate for them to love you and/or grants supernatural beauty/charisma. "True Love" is mocked by OR itself.
>>98322984Is it part of your themes and such? Keep expaling them to me please. Its so interesting, so many themes and such>>98323017I am talking about cyoa where fate literally dictates it. Like "pick a waifu that will end up loving you" "pick a wife/partner" One thing is the ones that leave it open, another thing is the deterministic ones.
>>98322985Love is the final destination of wish fulfillment. Money, power, friendship, immortality, they're all middle men for you to love the existence you're leading.
>>98323021>Its not conceding any point,Except it is, because this whole thing started with some anon pointing out that theyre sexdolls and you having a meltie over it>Minions in entropistYea, no shit minions in ENTROPIST are. Entropist is unrepresentatively insecure in its writing (in basically every way you can take that). Your generic summoned demon or whatever on the other hand? Very different story.>and/or grants supernatural beauty/charisma"being attractive and someone people choose to like is the same as mind controlling them to love you"
>>98323028>"pick a wife/partner"Well which is it? Is it "fate will force them to love you" or is it "pick a waifu"? Or are you so stupid you think theyre the same thing?
>>98323020I think you may be right. Insecurity within insecurity may make you think you are less insecure while it consumes you
>>98315163I must free these people from the shackles of being chineseI must teach them honor and freedom. A vision of what the world could beTo break the cycle of war directly and rise above the earthBuild:MethodAdministrator (Architect of legacy)>To shape the world>Bridges create trade, the trade provides need and the need creates architects>It's a matter of being the first mover. Of setting things in a groove they can't soon be knocked out of>There too must be calamity, to weed the people of vice. >My designs will carve out dynasties long after I am goneSeat of power:Land of steel>EVERY MAN A KING AND EVERY HILL A KINGDOM>The task of feeding the nation is more possible then one might believe >with some long term planning and and strict agricultural controls it should be posisble to move soil, divert streams and carve flat ground into the rock>Naturally this will be done in silence, in central territories, as to ensure no meddling>There are actually quite a few interesting systems for moving water that are possible with ancient technologies>The end goal is to have every small area be independantly feed and independently controlledBeast clan:Rabbit>We don't really need more warriors, and infinite free unblockable messengers are actually an extreme benefit. It makes a spy network trivial to set up and equally trivial to centralise>The cost of the lord is too high to be used intentionally, but still can be paid if needed>It is pretty easy to imagine a series of fortifications that make portals invaluable, and nothing says they cannot be used for spycraft
>>98323028>I am talking about cyoa where fate literally dictates it>"pick a wife/partner"
>>98323041Advisors:Madame orochi>The price is not that high, and the benefits are great>And greater still are the improvements yet to comeLady lian>Would>Also, I am speccing in spycraft so this will be importantTetsu Okamiyama>Best option by far for spycraft, and his drawback is manegable if he can keep his word in regards to secrecy>I need him to train similarly loyal individuals that might be made into superhumansKugutsu Ayatsuri>The notes can be kept for future generations. As long as she trains a successor things will be goodForce composition:The warlord's legion (18)>They are for holding territory. They must be loyal and diciplined, but plentifulShinobi (x10)[1,000]>The battle is won before it is foughtEngineers x1 [800]>Set traps. Dig trenches. Build walls.>We know the where and when of the battle, so these will be invaluableCogwork Colossi x1 (Free) [50]>Seige equipment>And the occasional shock and aweYumi archers x2 [7,000]Shugoki x2 [6,000]Ashigaru x3 [19,500]Rival shogun:Nemesis: Lady inazuma>War between the people with the best military and the ones with the worst was inevitable, and she is likely to try to use my sister against me>Should be a pretty quick conquest/correction>As for the land of fire and of stars, both of them seem fairly weak to spycraft, so I'll just have said spys slowly build up a larger and larger base of traitors unwittingly loyal to my cause and wait until either I need to or it's opportune to attack them>Sabotage key defensive structures, convert or replace key figures and then invade with speed and efficiency>This is the method of invasion that destroys the least of the wealth of the kingdom you conquer, and is therefore the best
>>98323041erm we're kinda talking there
>>98323054YesCarry on
I feel like there should be more personal skills and abilities in the Shogun cyoa. As it stands I’m just your typical physically weak summoner.
>>98323031>Except it is, because this whole thing started with some anon pointing out that theyre sexdolls and you having a meltie over itOne thing is to call them minions+ and another sexdolls. They will always be minions+, they will not always fuck you. So the description is wrong and simplky made to ragebait, I took the bait knowing it, you should be thankful.>Yea, no shit minions in ENTROPIST are. Entropist is unrepresentatively insecure in its writing (in basically every way you can take that). Your generic summoned demon or whatever on the other hand? Very different story.Then why the fuck were you talking about magic making them loyal but they trying to break free and such? Its weird af. Its like we are talking about LotR's elves and you talking about "but elves have the magic power to destroy cities in frieren I don't understand why they allied themselves with humans"You didn't talk about other works just said "your generic summons">"being attractive and someone people choose to like is the same as mind controlling them to love you"one thing is to be beautiful and/or charismatic and another thing is being supernaturally beautiful and/or charismatic. The latter is usually a power of femme fatales in works of fictions slaving men against their will. A core part of consent and being free is being able to choose, if they are so supernaturally beautiful and/or charismatic that there is no universe where you pick another choice, its not longer a choice but the illusion of it.
>>98323046>Lady Lian>WouldIncest is forbidden in these lands.>Madame Orochi>Not would>Kugutsu Ayatsuri>Not wouldBad choice of words.>>98323041>picyou look kinda ill
>>98323080>Incest is forbidden in these lands.We both have access to teleportation and private serving staff. No one is going to find out>Bad choice of wordsIf they came on to me I would consider it but they are colleagues and beloved subordinates before they are women>you look kinda illThe price of ambition
>>98321103>RaceHuman>Race ModifiersOneiros Potential>Life EventsA Path UnwrittenWealthyInherited Legacy>Combat Speciality: TrickeryThe Green FoolMathematical MindA fake still is a kind of truthInnovation is the name of the gameCombat Speciality 3Everchanging NatureSeven Branched Blade>OneirosThe River FlowsThe BalanceRechargeFantasyShiftingBeast Of Origin>PathGreen>GradeMage>General Oneiros EnhancementSpell Casting>GreenThe Fable of the Green Fool>PerksTrue SorceryA Kingdom 2Adaptable 3Knowledgeable 3The Absolute>FortuneUnique GrimoireThe One True GrimoireThe NecronomiconChronoplasma>ScenarioA New FateIdea is to largely ignore Oneiros and just use my tons of mental perks to become ungodly good at sorcery and using the Necronomicon and Chronoplasma.
>>98323067>they will not always fuck youThey are literally incapable of not always loving you and fucking you. >Then why the fuck were you talking about magic making them loyal but they trying to break free and suchBecause we were talking about "summons" in general rather than "entropist minions">its not longer a choiceOf course its still a choice, its just an obvious one. Its like saying "you are mind controlled into picking the cake at a baking contest because the other participants presented rotten feces."a choice" does not necessitate a viable alternative, it simply requires the ability to pick a different option if you wanted to. You could always choose to take $5 instead of $5,000,000,000. You wouldnt, but you could.
>>98322919>Sentence: Lesser Yus Yat-Yee Her’v Tsy Ot Zelo Buki Cherv This is quite difficult to interpret without context for when it is being said, and to whom, and to what purpose, but given the blurb about ascension through faith I would assume it reads:I am not noble, and far from the great divine whom I proudly serve???Fun to interpret though
Kill demons. Behead demons. Roundhouse kick a demon into the concrete. Slam dunk a schemer imp into the trashcan. Crucify filthy fiends. Defecate in a demon's food. Launch demons into the sun. Stir fry demons in a wok. Toss demons into active volcanoes. Urinate into a demon's gas tank. Judo throw demons into a wood chipper. Twist demons' heads off. Report demons to the IRS. Karate chop demons in half. Curb stomp pregnant succubi. Trap demons in quicksand. Crush demons in the trash compactor. Liquefy demons in a vat of holy water. Cleanse demons. Dissect demons. Exterminate demons in the gas chamber. Stomp demon skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate demons in the oven. Lobotomize demons. Mandatory abortions for demons. Grind cambion hellspawn in the garbage disposal. Drown demons in fried chicken grease. Vaporize demons with holy light. Kick demons down the stairs. Feed demons to alligators. Slice demons with a katana.
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cyoa with waifus you absolutely shouldn't pick?
>>98323298Lady Orochi
>>98323304Is this the laziest cyoa ever?
>>98323313No, there are many more. This one predates gAyI and has a whole paragraph of text.
>>98323313>has a title>has handrawn waifu>has more than three lines of textNot even close.
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>>98322785You mean like the entire cyoa and every WOG post?
>>98322862>after the most of the redditors left, anons could finally have a real discussion about the cyoaYes
I'm running out of ideas for waifus.Do you guys have character ideas for waifus in a sword and sorcery style setting where they are magic users enslaved to more powerful god-kings?
>>98323063Yea, you have to take strength of self to have any personal abilities and it is vague as hell. I would prefer a separation between leadership style and an independent section to build a personal combat style like mage, or archer or of course warrior. I feel like in a setting like this they shouldn't be mutually exclusive and the opportunity cost of picking strength of self is quite high.
>>98323308Bait, she is the mandatory immortality option and turns people into supersoldiers. She is downright unbalanced and a perfect example of how badly structured immortality options kill build diversity.
>>98323430Hmm...>puppetmaster with a frail constitution and separation anxiety, trying to hide her inferiority complex towards the god-king behind rickety golems>inferno witch that loves destruction but feels that other people don't see her softer side or respect her beyond her powers>nervous teleportation wizardess that recently discovered how make portals, and is keeping it secret so she isn't made redundant>fun-loving shapeshifter, recently morose because the god-king recently forbid her to take on the body she likes the most>demon summoning witch that is legitimately insane, to the extent of unnerving her own minions, but puts on a front of being innocent and forced into using her powersThere are a few ideas.
>>98323469>mandatory>CHOOSE your own adventureSomething doesn't add up.
>>98323430She is a paladin/cleric type personality with you as the deity she fervently worships. High Priestess of fertility who considers having your children a scared duty. Leader of a cult of beautiful woman who you also get to impregnate.
>>98323484Mandatory is a strong word, perhaps "tax" would be a better word. Still basically every build takes her for a very good reason.
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>>98323430Vore waifu (her enemies not you)
>>98323430Your own ancient witch grandmother
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>>98323515>(her enemies not you):(
>>98323430Innocent and kind hyper feminine waifu that tames the savage beast that is (You).
>>98323599Kek
>>98323611And by (You) I mean the player that is anon.
>>98323611>savage beast that is (You).But I'm not that
>>98323938>savage beast that is (You).>But I'm not that
>>98323588You have a fetish
>>98324075I mean I do enjoy some kino brainwashing from time to time, but only certain kinds.I thought it would be funny for anons to be confronted with an in universe true love kind of effect and how waifus would react knowing it exists and they are likely going to be under its influence.It's a bit meta in that sense.
>>98324180No, I mean more broadly. Whenever someone posts about how in their WIP theres actually some outrageous maledom chances are its you. >in my WIP men treat women like cattle and breed them for magic powers>in my WIP men are the chosen ones and women are meant to serve them>in my WIP you brainwash women into loving you etc
>>98324314Has he finished any of these?Where are they?
>>98324349>Has he finished any of these?no
>>98324314True true it's because I can't be too specific and exaggerating its contents is more fun.A fun bit is that another anon from here was the one to come up with the idea of setting up breeding camps once I explained the magic system.It reminded me of an ttrpg(exalted) where there was people who had that same though experiment and the devs ended up changing how the power system of the game functioned just to avoid it being viable.But that's cowardly imo if anons want to be evil let them be so.>>98324349It's one WIP, I'm still working on it.
>>98324389How many words of text so far?How many images chosen?
>>98324396I have to check but I have several docs for different sections + background lore.I don't like having one huge doc.And I have most characters I will use for the art selected.
>>98324389>the devs ended up changing how the power system of the game functioned just to avoid it being viable.Too bad erratas like that are powerless in the face of a DM and their Magical Realm
>>98324606True thus why I think it was a meaningless change at best and something that weakens the identity of the game at worst, ttrpgs are all about customization and catering to the people you play with if you don't like something you can change it at your table.
>>98315265I remember writefaging a lot for this. Good times.
>>98321909>they return to the only things that can't be entirely automated>farm worklmfaaoooooo
>>98324883People still farm, its just you need less people and most of them are just overseeing machines that till and plant crops now to make sure they don't just fuck itself or someone else up or go off the property.
