Renaissance Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98312413>Thread Question:What do you think of the FAQ? How does it impact your army/armies?
>TQI'm a Bretonnian infantry + basic cav autist, so I welcome the nerf to faggot peggers.
>TQseems alright, but outside of the viletide and Nuln Outrider nerf, there really isn't anything that stands out,Chopping off some points from chaff infantry like high elf spearman and archers or even some monsters like the cockatrice, doesn't make these units viable for sweaty comp play or even impact smaller games outside of being able to afford more stuff
>TQWarriors are better but are still going to fucking die in all likelihood before doing anything Ditto for war dancers Monstrous infantry continues to suck balls Demon prince is some how more garbage Have to rebase my dragon (only thing I didn’t seek yet from my collection of chaos warriors) Dryads are strong(er) I feel nothing overall for the faq. I guess greenskins are gonna be scarier for me to fight, beastmen are probably getting nerfed so they can be souped into warriors.
>>98319769I don't know if Chaos Warriors are good now, but they'll certainly feel better to run, and I like that daemonic mounts are actually usable now that they can counter-charge. Dwarves are probably still a bit 'eh', and I think Ogre Kingdoms are now paying the most per Ogre in the whole game for less good Ogres, so that sucks.
>>98319769>What do you think of the FAQ? It's alright.>How does it impact your army/armies?I play lizards. I have to rely on third parties to fix my army.
>>98319769>tqAs an orc player I am pretty happy. Fanatics got nerfed a bit but who cares only fags max out on fanatics and they will still do damage the turn they are launched. Orcs becoming more viable is mint.
>>98319803Furious Charge is maybe the most stupid rule they could have given chaos warriors/chosen warriors because infantry don't charge in this game. And if you just need a unit to stand and take hits Marauders are cheaper.Being able to run Chosen Knights in 3s and Chimera buffs might be interesting.
>>98319821They don’t charge because prior to giving a bunch of units furious charge you’d still get more attacks coming back at you most of the time…furious charge directly incentivizes the units that have it to charge
>>98319846Except not all infantry units have FC, and generally you also don't charge because infantry outside of MC are slow as fuck in this game. They should have just let everyone fight in 2 ranks as a core rules change. This is patching a patch.
>>98319821>warriors because infantry don't charge in this game.This is literally the reason they did that. To give certain infantry units a reason to charge.WoC also have several tools to help infantry get that charge, like battle hunger and the whip of +d3 movement. So you can now have 4A greatsword chosen on the charge.
>>98319855>Except not all infantry units have FCYes, because the goal wasnt to increase the offense of state troops and peasants, but "aggressive infantry" which SHOULD be rewarded for charging (like chaos warriors and gors)
>Reduce min unit size on some unitsForeshadowing new kits with one less in the box?Shrinkflation in muh James workslop?
>>98319887Could be for battle march as well
>TQI don't play TOW and have no interest in it, so I had no idea there even was a FAQ/update.It doesn't affect me in the slightest; but if it makes the game better I'm happy for the players that play it.If it makes the game worse to the point that a some people might abandon the game, I'm happy for the players that will benefit from the influx of used miniatures being sold on the secondary market that will lower prices.If it makes the game worse but people still play it without enjoying it then I question why people stick with a game they don't like. (But we all know the answer to that)
been a long while since i finished some orcs and posted in here (yes i know the bases aren't done but the rest is finished). very excited to start my empire gunline + artillery army but i should finish my pride and joy orcs first.
>>98319906>(But we all know the answer to that)sunk cost fallacy?
Feels good not being poor.
>>98319887No way they are doing 3 man KOTR kits relax
>>98319906You don’t own any fantasy models so who cares about your opinion
>>98319769>TQFanatics are a major part of my night gobbo force. They got nerfed, but it's fine and they're probably still strong. Trolls got a bunch of love which I'm very excited about.
>>98319925are trolls worth a damn to a mostly orc player now? might get some, i want some monsters for my army
>>98319769>What do you think of the FAQ? How does it impact your army/armies?The wood elf buffs are banging, I'm beginning to hope they get a box set with a new Branchwraith, new dryads, wardancers and treekin considering those all got buffed.
>>98319924I own more models than the year you were born in.The ones currently painted will, alone, outnumber what you'll ever be able to put on a gaming table.
>>98319924get shit on lmao
>>98319958These look immensely gay
>>98319909Love it anon. That blacklining is very old school and my dwarf would be honoured to demolish them in combat
I would like to put some life back into this general and have a good old fashion painting challenge like we always used to have back in the good ol days of /tg/. If you guys are willing to participate, we will be having the challenge for the month of August, so you have the rest of July to aquire whatever models or supplies you need. I have put together this quick poll so you guys can vote on which type of models we would like to paint, and after that's done I can create another poll so we can decide on the theme! The rules will be simply, >get a model or unit that matches the theme of the challenge >you have the entire month of August to complete it >post you completed project here, at the end of the month we will vote for the winner! >no prize, just glory and personal pride >winner won't be who has the strictly best painting technique, but who a combination of painting, adherence to theme, overall effort and SOVL, etc. Please vote!!!! https://strawpoll.com/X3nkP5mE5gEhttps://strawpoll.com/X3nkP5mE5gEhttps://strawpoll.com/X3nkP5mE5gE
>>98319806Lizards lowkey got a sneaky buff- since they fixed all the pegasus models to have front face arc only instead of 360 vision, Ripperdactyls are now the best flying cavalry in the game maintaining their 360 charge range and will stay that way because there's no chance in hell they'll touch a legacy unit
>>98319909Anon please, stop tempting me to start an Orks and Goblins army!
>>98319919Give it a rest.
Vampires Counts uptdate when?
>>98319999Warhawks also didn't get the 90° arc rule
>To this end, units such as Chaos Warriors, Gors, Orc Boyz, Empire Greatswords, and Dwarf Slayers, to name but a few, have gained Furious Charge. The extra attacks a unit with Furious Charge gains when charging the foe, or when pursuing an enemy that has Fallen Back in Good Order, encourages units that should be aggressive to act more appropriately on the tabletop, off-setting the defensive nature of other infantry units.ORCS ORCS ORCS ORCS ORCS
>>98319940I'm not a competetive player really, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think they've gone from rubbish to usable if you like them. I was bringing trolls anyway, and I will continue to do it. I don't know if they're actually going to be in any competetive lists. Who knows, maybe troll horde is quite good now.
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>>98320109fair enough, i'm not interested in comp either but i was told trolls were totally useless and to avoid. glad to hear, might pick some up soon then
>>98320109>>98320164I think trolls were at their height in usability when failing a stupid roll made them move straight forward, counting as a charge if they touched an enemy. Stupid is far too big of a negative right now. If stupid acted more like Drunk, it would probably be ok. Where a stupid unit can't do all the magic stuff, but its movement becomes d3+x where X would be its normal movement if you get a 3. Then it's fine, at least they dont just bumblefuck stand around.
>>98319984Thank you anon, I have voted and plan to participate
Are beastmen meta or good? I thought they were neglected by GW
>>98319984I have voted for infantry. I'm already working on something, this would be a good excuse to stick with it.
>>98320242Both, at least until literally this morning. I think they will still be good, but they might not be meta any more. Their primary cheese got a nerf, but they gained a lot of other power in a completely different play style.
>>98320248I voted terrain, it's something everyone could use more of
>>98319785360 LoS shouldn't exist period.>>98319769>I can't mindlessly throw my pegknights into the enemy and be able to charge back at everythingHow tragic...stubborn men at arms is really cool though and I might try out errantry crusade with pilgrims now.
TK box when
Tounging the space between the dew claws and hoof on the beastwoman who I suffered horrific defeat to.
>>98320336True, and making+painting terrain is more fun than painting models.But I figured way more people are able to paint models rather than build something. Similarly, if it's infantry then everyone, no matter their collection, can take part.
>>98320509What would prevent someone from making terrain? You can make terrain with some garbage and cheap craft paint
>>98319925>Trolls got a bunch of love which I'm very excited about.They didn't really fix them. They have better leadership now so it's only 50/50 they they do nothing if not babysat which is still painful just less painful. I don't know why they nerfed Stupid. It's not like stupid units like trolls and cold ones were performing too well. The point reduction is nice. But even if you were running 12+ trolls like me, it's only 24 points, which is like one extra mediocre magic item. I'm still going to play them in Troll Horde, but the toughness buff to Giants is way better then the troll tweak.
>>98320522You're probably right, and the problem with trolls goes deeper than just numbers. But I'm still happy the numbers are better. At the end of the day I just love trolls and I'm going to play them even if they're the worst unit in the game.
>>98320512You can, I can, many can.But both you and I know that (too) many people are really put off by craft building terrain.
>>98320553Effort? How dare you.
>>98320553That's a nice little shack. You gotta work on that lawn care though!
lore question. how do tomb kings view order of light wizards from the empire? do they have any respect for them or just view them as larpers who wear their clothes?
>>98320604That's a very old picture. The stable is now complete and in storage somewhere. My dad re did the garden at his place and is now a lush forest of clover and grass.Pic related is a coal deposit from around the same time (2014ish I think)
>>98320622I don't think they view or see them at all since they're all lacking eyes
>>98319984Wtf no love for cavalry??
>>98320814Some armies don't have cavalry (like mine).
Looking over the Cockatrice cause of the cost change. If I take both poison and vomit, does the vomit gain poison? I don't think so but just checking.
Explain the changes of regen for me.I've seen multiple interpretations
>>98320409>460 LoS shouldnt exist period Completely agree. I know I'm in the minority in this, but I care about having some more or less realistic simulation on the tabletop. I hate stuff like that which seems unrealistic in the context of a formation on the battlefield
>>98320892It would because>Unless otherwise stated, a model with this special rule may use it when making both shooting and combat attacks.
>>98320898Multi-wound hits cap out at the models left over wounds. Those extra wounds are dropped off. Then the regen saves are done for all wounds. In the event of a challenge where the model died, an attack that passes the armor and ward save deals 1 wound, but regen can't be used since it has 0 wounds left.Example 1. Troll takes 3 hits from a multi wound 2 weapon. First hit deals two wounds, two saves, lets say he fails both. second hit deals two wounds, but troll only has 1 left, so only 1 regen save is attempted and this time he passes. 3rd hit deals two wounds, but troll only has 1 left, so only 1 regen save is attempted.Example 2. Troll takes cannon hit to face, taking 6 wounds. Troll only has 3 total wounds, so 3 of the wounds from the cannon are dropped, 3 regen rolls are made.Example 3. Enemy unit on the charge deals 8 wounds to undead unit. 8 different models are dealt 1 wound each, each model makes a regen save. This has implications for fighting back since regen units stay in base to base not stepping up.This is what I've seen so far at least.>>98320931Breath weapons don't roll to hit.
>>98320898Enemy lands 5 wounds.Troll has 3 wounds total.Troll only rolls regent on the 3 wounds.Since regen is rolled for lost wounds, you can't lose wounds you don't have
Sincer heads, shoulders and weapons are all swappable between Chaos Knights and Chaos Warriors does that increase the odds of God specific sprues being made?
>>98320937>>98320941so its mostly only relevant against multiple wound attacks? thats how I would also interpret it.so 10 wounds from 10 different enemy models cant be shrugged by just making one succesful regensave but you have to roll all of them, yes?
>>98320912>Muh realism Are you unable to turn your neck, you absolute mongoloid?
How does terrain work in this game? What kinds and sizes of terrain do I need/want?>t. noob
Beastmen should have gotten the refresh before chaos warriors did. New ungors, new Minotaurs, and a jabber style would be cooler than stinky nostalgia bait.
>>98321014but nobody cares about beastmen though
>>98321009>terrainNot allowed.
>>98321021stubby dwarf fingers typed this post
>>98320974Yeah, basically.
>>98321021slit your wrists perrynigger
>>98321009There are lots of different kinds of terrain, each with different rules. Check out the core rulebook, it has an entire section about terrain. If you want to get down and dirty immediately, I'd say you should make 2 hills, a fence, a building, a pond/swamp/bog, a mysterious ruin, and 2 forests to start.Note that you don't need all this terrain to play the game, but this should cover all your bases.
>>98319769Nerfs to pegasus. Slight points reduction to knights and ic knights. Furious charge on greatswords and free company militia. Think relative to other armies, they are losers.
>>98321041
Actually did renegade crowns get any buffs
>>98321050>shitposting from the hobby desk Based
>I want cheap minis but I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER buy a 3d printerthere is no reason to proxy off scale shit in 2000 + 20 + 6
>>98321079>off scale shitYou know you can scale the models however you like right? Every printing software on the planet has a scale setting
>>98321065No I don't think so.
>>98320641>wood
>>98321065Free Company picked up FC, thats it.
I've thought that running units of chaos spawn of slaanesh could be fun. They've got strike first and stomps. Random movement is a significant drawback, but it also means enemies can't react to them. What do you think?
>>98319855I'm not the biggest fan of the blanket FC upgrade, but I can appreciate what they've tried to do:>Except not all infantry units have FCYes, because they are trying to keep 'defensive' infantry defensive, and encourage 'aggressive' infantry to be more aggressive. Works nice fluff-wise too imo.>generally you also don't charge because infantry outside of MC are slow as fuck in this gameI think the FC patch was specifically designed to stop the 'mexican standoffs' that arose after the 1.5 FAQ, where two opposing infantry blocks would stand 5" apart from each other because neither wanted to charge.>>98319769>What do you think of the FAQ?Overall I think it's decent. Sensible changes with clear reasons. I do like that they're thinking of solutions to game issues other than simply changing points values. Bit concerned that patches patching patches could lead us to rules bloat, just at a slower pace than the mainline games. But not an issue just yet imo.>How does it impact your army/armies?Love that I can send my trolls off on their own now instead of being babied by the general, they're some of my favourite units in the game so I'm excited about getting to use them more.Goblins at I3 feels a little off, they've never been that way before, and especially since their supposedly more cunning siblings the night goblins are I3. Would have happily kept them at 2.Fine with the changes to fanatics and trollhide trousers, maybe the nobhead tourney players will stop giving them a bad name now.Giant at T7 is lovely, another unit I really like that has been made a bit more viable.
>>98321168He's saying that printing makes the >BUT MUH CHEAPargument in favour of off-scale historical plastics irrelevant, you dumb cunt.
>>98319887>>98319892I reckon it's going to be 3-man KOTR units in battle march boxes or whatever, yeah. Plenty of 40k boxes contain just 3 models now. Hope I'm wrong!
>>98321308Why would you get fewer models for Knights of the realm then you do Chaos Knights?
>>98321324Because fuck you that's why.
>>98321324you can't make the world's smallest lance formation with 4 knights, but with 3 you can
>>98321009The main types of terrain you always want are the hills, the forests and the impassable ones (rocks/buildings). The average size for terrain is usually between 4 to 8 inches at its widest point.A normal table would have around 6 pieces of terrain. The basic pack you want would be 2 hills and 2 forests and 2 whatever you want.I would advise you to separate the forest into a footprint piece and removable trees that go on it.Hills should have very very soft slopes so that blocks of infantry can be sit partially on it without falling.That's the gist of things but there's also objectives, towers, baggage train etc etc.https://tow.whfb.app/battlefield-terrain
>>98319769>What do you think of the FAQ?Watching a real life friend seethe for hours about how his 4 royal heralds can no longer play "Get down mr. president!" on rotation has been pretty entertaining
>>98321570Why would he write such a list? What is wrong with him?
>>98320242Wild Herd was an S tier army until the FAQ. That strat is gone but they got buffed otherwise. Definitely not neglected
>>98321570You’re friend sounds like a real tabletop jerk.
Should there be concerns of infantry now fighting double ranks like in 8th? I feel that may inadvertandly lead to one of the contributing factors why 8th went down.
>>98321755Infantry were already fighting in 2 ranks since the 1.5 FAQ, anon. They only did that when they were charged, though. Now, a couple units can specifically get +1 attacks when they charge.I would not say that supporting attacks was what made 8th a controversial edition. Step up making initiative a largely worthless stat, steadfast/horde encouraging, if not outright demanding, that you bring units of 40+ infantry, horrendous inter-army balance (corrected years down the line by fan comp, not that anyone who still complains about 8th would know or care), the Purple Sun of Xereus/very specific magic spells being utterly disgusting and game-breaking (which only happened because a counter to enormous blocks of infantry was now necessary, thanks steadfast/horde), batshit insane business decisions made by the gaping butthole of a CEO GW had at the time, sure. But infantry getting supporting attacks, thereby allowing infantry as a whole to be viable and fun to use relative to 6th and 7th? No.
>>98319769>TQ>Chaos warriors are now actually using chaos armorIt's not full plate but i'll take it.
>>98321781Reassuring, thanks anon. Guess 8th had more complications than i thought.
>>98321781I think people who weren't around have no how fucked the 8th ed rules were.
>>98319769>TQAs a Beastmen player, I feel like the further nerfs to Viletide and Hagtree Fetish are me being punished for other people’s spamming. I generally only run level 1-2 wizards, and only one per list, so Viletide was never super oppressive in my groups games (half the time I’d only get if off once, if at all). It was kinda the only thing Beastmen had that was effective against heavy armored units.I am happy about furious charge though, and the Cockatrice getting cheaper. So it is what it is.
>>98321895Spells that draw a line from the caster no longer need a target now too, so that’s also a buff for beasts
Viletide is still good
>>98319769Someone was asking 'why metal minis' in the previous chat, and working on the Manticore I might have a reason- the pewter gives you a really nice texture from the casting to drybrush on, as opposed to smooth plastic.Also someone give me a fancy idea for how to base this guy cause I got nothing (preferably swamp/jungle related to tie in with my lizardmen so I can do dioramas of my armies fighting)
>>98321943I really like the feel of metal minis in the hand. But I’ll be honest. I’ve only ever done infantry sized metals because I’ve never done pinning and doing it kind of scares me. Also I need to learn to varnish because some of my minis have already chipped. For those reasons I prefer plastic, but I still like metal too don’t get me wrong. The only material I don’t like is r*sin
>>98321755It's helped keep cavalry spam lists in check well enough- getting attacks with two ranks gives you a chance to do SOME damage to the charger rather than just die and autolose combat
>>98321954>I’ve never done pinning and doing it kind of scares meThe trick is to make your holes a little oversized to your pins rather than a snug fit so you have some wiggle room to work with in case your holes aren't perfectly aligned
Are Wardancers good now?
I finally ordered a sky lantern. If I build it with a magistrate do I want it with crane guns or ironhails/bombs?Plan to get one of each eventually but not sure which to give to a magistrate.
>>98321975If they get into combat sure Will they get into combat? Haha.
>>98321984>If I build it with a magistrate do I want it with crane guns or ironhails/bombs?just try out both. just because you built them in one way, doesnt mean you cant play them with the other loadout. doubt your opponents can tell the difference anyway.
>>98321990Sure but it matters to me from a hobbying perspective. Maybe I can magnetize the magistrate though.
I hope you guys are ready for the dryad, treekin and wardancer refresh because I sure am. Although I genuinely really like the current tree kin design along with the wardancers.
>>98321995there are two characters in the box btw. one strategist and one magistrate.
>>98322002I don’t care for the most boring flavor of elves that there can be. Hell the games better the less players there are for them.
>>98322014>I don’t care for the most boring flavor of elves that there can be.High elves?
>>98320044Warhawks don't got the toad & furious charge tho, so Rippers are king
>>98322002I take it back I confused wardancers for waystalkers. I think the wardancers could use a refresh but I still like the tree kin quite a lot
>>98322019You're both shit compared to Druchii, but High Elves got Wood Elves beat because cooler dragons, merwyrms, & teclis
>>98322040>Druchiinot a real faction
>>98322014Wood elves are actually the most flavorful of all the flavors. Does any other elf faction have pedophilic elves that rape tiny tree spirits?
>>98322050Well now I’m not gonna be able to look at this model the same again, the limp staff isn’t helping either.
>>98322044They've been referred to as Druchii for like 2 decades, fake grog
>>98322057no, I mean they are not a real faction in TOW, regardless of their name.
>>98322057For me it's the fact everyone and the "official" pronunciation seems to be "drookie", I just can't take that shit seriously, especially when the person is supposed to be talking about rapemurder Elves and also that's the wrong way to pronounce ii.At least if it were pronounce "droo-chai" with the emphasis on the first syllable it would sound vaguely Elf-ish.
>>98319958oh my god, the kinder surprise donkey.Are you also going to use those to make baggage train models?
>>98322050I'm sure dark elves do that too
Should I paint my Cathay half or my Chaos Warriors half first?
>>98322064>I mean they are not a real faction in TOWDo you seriously not remember what happened when you tried to pull this shit last time James?
Dooki
>>98322095stop liking evil women
>>98322095I miss this style of artpost. It reminds me of 2000's era /tg/ where there was still a sense of humor and creativity here. Everyone liked Warhammer but understood it wasn't to be taken too seriously.
>>98322119Self-inserters gonna self-insert.
>>98322130>self-insertersWhy do people spam this whenever warhammer elf x human art is posted? Can't an anon like elf x human art without cooming to it or projecting into it?
>>98322137that's never happened before
I think the new chaos warriors have converted me. I'll buy the battle march box
>>98322137Unironically noldorfag has copycats born out of the weird faux puritan nonsense that has infected 4chan.
>>98322137>Can't an anon like elf x human art without cooming to it or projecting into it?Anon, they're naked bdsm elves who literally have orgies as rituals of power- it's not even the writer's barely disguised fetish, it's the writer's openly paraded fetish. Other elves are fine but you can't not have coomerism involved with witch elves because they have coomerism ingrained into their character.
>>98321975No. They'll be good when they'll learn how to dance with great weapons. Until then they're just S3 little Timmies.
>>98322123It's a drawfag from the total war thread on /vg/
>>98322152Every time an AoStranny is redeemed back into the light, another Stormcast gets angel Alzheimer's and fucks xer dog or whatever.What was the 'lore' of that freak again? It was a literal green-haired dyke cut tranny mage who has been raped so hard by constantly losing fights and dying that he only feels joy giving his hecking doggo belly scritches or some such gay shit, I'm not even exaggerating here.
>>98322090You should alternate to keep it fresh.
>>98322177I know the image you're talking about, it's from the rpg I think.At this point more /wfg/ and /twg/ anons know about it than AoS players.
>>98322190AoS 'players' don't actually play AoS so that tracks
>>98322005Ah yeah. Might as well run those as either option then. No one would be able to tell.
Hmm do I start Wood Elves, Dwarfs or Cathay hmmm.
In battle march, say 600 points, what is the best way to combat a cathay balloon? Do i just ignore it and kill everything else?
>>98322223Cathay. Wood Elves get updated within the year, dorfs are only worth it for getting classic Slayers while you still can
>>98322206I feel like AoS has to have by far the highest ratio of players/fans of gw's major systems just by virtue of having basically no secondaries. Unless you mean the ratio of players vs hobby only guys.
>>98322238The thing holding me back from dwarfs is the multiple generations of sculpts for different kits. I like all the sculpts in the wood elf battalion though. Which is what I would start with. Maybe with Cathay I wait a little and see if there’s people trying to offload half of that starter box maybe
>>98320974No its fucked.Unit of 5 zombies gets charged and suffers 10 wounds.You divy that up and all 5 zombies die, excess disappears.5 zombies roll regens and 2 survive.
>>98322244>basically no secondariesThere is literally nothing there to be a secondary fan of, so again, that tracks.>players vs hobby only guysThis is what I mean, yes. People paint the models and maybe play Spearhead once or twice and that's about it. Only game of AoS I've ever actually seen played in person was at Warhammer World, and it was a game of Spearhead with like 20 models on the table kek
>>98322257If they suffer wounds from the same source it works as you described. If it’s from different sources it doesn’t because you’re rolling each source of damage individually (each enemy unit). Idk why people are confused seems straightforward to me
>Based intern leaked all the Battle March rules on Warhammer CommunityExcellent use of free will.
>>98322287Hold a moment... that knight is a FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOID
>>98319984its going to be infantry, huh? am i disqualified if i have a few minis already painted in a unit? does the unit need to be started in august? i have my empire guys that i neglect but - challenge would motivate me. or do i just start a new unit???
>>98322287I thought the rules were intended to be free on the site
>>98322287>>98322304Insolent little trollop... playing at knighthood, making a mockery of chivalry... give her to the peasants for correction, they have need of camp whores.
>>98320937Your examples of how its 'supposed to work' are right, though they absolutely infuriate me and are retarded rulings, because now one wound models with a regen have WILDLY IMPROVED odds of surviving multi-wound attacks which is just flat bad.If a skeleton with a 6+ regen takes a 2 damage attack and has to make 2 regen saves (the way it SHOULD BE) he has like a 3% chance of survival- but because one damage 'falls off' he has a 17% chance of living instead. Fucking RIDICULOUS how much more durable that makes regen models.
>>98322206They don't play Soulbound, which is where the image originates fromFantasy players do sometimes play WFRP
>>98322326I think anon meant the companion rules, which were taken down by GW yesterday.
Almost done
>>98322352I'm buying the box anyways, but it's nice to have a preview of the rules. The random events are absolute sovl
>>98322326>>98322352Yes, the compendium rules weren’t meant to be online. I put them in the OP, some kind anon uploaded them to mega.
>>98319984>>98322306ohh theres going to be a theme theme after i see
>>98322368Nicee, can we get a close up of this guy from front
>>98322368HASHUT! NAGGRUND! HASHUT! NAGGRUND!DAL DAMMAZ! DAL DAMMAAAAAAZ!
>>98322352Fantastical magic items such as>A padded hauberk>An iron-rimmed shield
>>98322374He's not painted. The champ, the standard bearer and the horns are left basically.I'm glad the unit turned okay for the very little amount of effort put into it.
>>98322387Based classic chorf. My hand weapon+shield and blunderbuss units are going to be in that style.
>>98322388yeah it wierd when magic items in WFRP are more magical then WFB/TOW items even if it is sometimes pocket sand Though TOWRPG does also have Wierdstone as an item, which is also in the Battle March companion item selection
>>98322276Highly regional in my experience. Where I used to live nobody played aos while tow had a good scene. Now I moved, and it's impossible to find a tow game while there's regular aos ones practically every day. Which really blows because I play both
>>98322414Move to Europe there’s always a tow scene here in every city
>>98322434Even in Eindhoven?
One day there's going to be plastic questing and grail knights. There's also going to be a grail knight guardian on foot hero and he's going to have the most obnoxious rules.
>>98322177This is a really weird post to make when someone just said that they like the chaos warrior models
>>98322477I was welcoming him with a joke and then asked if anyone knew the specifics of the thing I was referencing. Go cry elsewhere sperg
>>98322468>There's also going to be a grail knight guardian on foot heroSo a paladin then?
>>98322388I actually like when magic items look really mundane
>>98322507Not him but I like a middle ground. Distinct but not too flashy. Like this Orc Warbosses axe is clearly a looted dwarf axe, but its not WoW level. First time I recognised it after all these years.
>>98322467There’s only two things I can’t stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures, and the Dutch
What are we painting on the banner?
So weird that the most iconic part of Warhammer Fantasy (that's unique to fantasy) is only supported through legacy.
>>98322696A sad looking Orc.
>>98322696Symbol of Nurgle judging by the cover scheme
>>98322696Astragoth zoolahoo
>>98322699I think you fucked up with not posting an image, but you're correct. SKAVEN ARE SO ICONIC I DON'T NEED TO SEE ONE TO ANY TO KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM.
>>98322704>>98322696Put a giant maggot in the eye, some moss on the skulls, carve some guts into the leader, so some minor mutations on some of the line infantry and ally them in with a Chaos Daemon (Nurgle) detachment.
>>98322696
>>98322674You and me buddy, you and me. Nevertheless, I'm stuck here for the foreseeable future so I wouldn't mind being able to play the game locally.
>>98322741did really just draw hashut's ass?
>>98322699The most iconic part of fantasy that's unique to fantasy is dwarf slayers, m8.
>>98322699In a meta sense, it's sort of nice that it's rare to face Skaven, as that's how it was in the narrative at this point in the timeline. But people will continue to use dying tranny game Night Goblin and Skaven sculpts for TOW like they have been for the last few years, and I'm sure GW knows that when looking at their sales figures.
>>98322745Dat is ruig, maatje.
>>98322696bara chorf
>>98322745>Lives an hour away from the capitalAnd this fucker doesn't even have to devote his full focus on not killing people while getting thereEuropeans are fucking retarded! The British invented the motorized land vehicle ONLY for the people of their own continent to refuse to use it!
>>98322795>the people of their own continentthe people have used it happily until the jews started to influence the weather with their evil sorcery
>>98322756Always fucking hated the Skaven. They have these wonder weapons that either backfire and kill themselves or cut through your guys with no saves. Every player who likes them is an asshole weird incel and/or cheater because normal people don't enjoy playing that kind of army. I hope they never come back.
>>98322795I find Randstad repulsive, it's a subregion-sized slums that I refuse to visit if not forced by external factors. I wish northern Limburg was more attractive career-wise. It's a beautiful place that I love to visit frequently but I don't see myself finding a better job there. Unfortunately commuting to mine current workplace would take over 3 hours in total every day.
>>98322705I went with the reverse one. I'm lazy so that's as far as I'm willing to take it but thanks for suggestion.
>>98322814throwing stones from a glass house, dwarf fag
>>98322434But doctor... I AM in europe...
>>98322814Yeah, this guy got Doomwheeled deep and hard.
>>98322897Astragoth is proud of you, young dawi-zharr
>>98322814I didn't mind thier game play, but the players are furries and faggots. And the fluff is so cringe. "there's an epic conspiracy to hide the truth! but also Skaven are an existential threat with tunnels that reach everywhere!" At least cathay fags have the excuse of yellow fever. "Haha epic-cool double-repeat say-talking meme! What if warpstone dildos?!Hahaha!" Shit was annoying a decade ago, and it hasn't gotten funnier.
>>98322904not anymore nigelbrexit means brexit
>>98322972You're projecting your hatred of furfags hard, edgelord. From a lore perspective skaven fluff is great and is the only thing in the entirety of whf that comes off as an original idea (evil ratmen living in the sewers with whacky steampunk contraptions.) There's also a fun campiness to them that if you don't pick up on you're one of those faggots who has a stick up his and deviantart tier descriptions of his chaos lord (I'll say it again- edgelord.)
>>98323145>edgelordlol furfaggot spotted. He's right about the playerbase and skavens are forever a reddit faggot race because of them. And so are the beastmen while we're at it.
>>98319958lol the guy picked a fight with the blue and green dwarf anon. always love seeing your minis, dont think ive seen them alltogether.
>>98323145Naw. The whole of Skaven lore is retarded "holds up spork" their Tumblr slop. If you want camp, half the factions from dark elves to chaos to o&g are camp. If you want random, goblins do that without being nearly so cringy. >original ideaNone of it is original it's just rat memes and knock off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shit.
>>98319769Did WF ever have Gnomes? What form did they take & how long did they last?
>>98322699>>98322707Warhammer Fantasy is EMPIRE, VAMPIRE COUNTS, and SKAVEN!! With guest appearance from Fimir rapists
>>98323193Yes in the very first editions. WFRP 4th edition's Rough Nights & Hard Days supplement and later Blood Bowl brought them back, but the battle game hasn't mentioned them.
I want one single ushabtiBut then I realized if people are selling singles for like 28 bucks on ebat, would it be smarter to buy third party 3 ushabti for 75 dollars and then sell the other two instead of buying used? And still I have no ushabti.
>>98323174Oi, beastbros are cool. Ease off
>>98323211The Battle Wizard model has a gnome model, and there is a symbol were mirrormore located on the TOW map
Anybody ever floated the idea of repurposing Stormcast Eternals into the WHFB setting as, like, paladins of Solkan? Their designs work surprisingly well for it, you'd just need to replace the (rare) hammer iconography with swords. A bunch of them even have the sun-halo crowns.
>>98323230No one with an IQ over 80.
>>98323184>and knock off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shitSkaven have been around since BEFORE Ninja Turtles made it big, newfag
>>98323229Neat, I hadn't noticed that. So I guess they're pretty much canonically around now, just not talked about. Though even in the lore they have they're supposedly very rare and elusive, so this sort of vague existence suits them fine tonally.
>>98323230Funny you should say that. I was thinking of converting a Stormcast as the base model for a Wight King for my Lahmian VC project... and my idea was actually that he would be a former Solkanite crusader that they'd slain/dominated. I really liked the Solkan stuff in that C7 WFRP supplement where they talked about religions.
>>98323230
>>98323245Rat ninjas definitely came after.
>>98323243Okay, let me rephrase. If I wanted to make a "Warriors of Law" army devoted to Solkan, is there any reason for them not to use Stormcast as the base models?(I don't even know why I'm asking, the answer is just gonna be ">sigmarines")
>>98323230Hmm, you're kinda retarded
>>98323300You're right, they're sigmarine trash and don't fit in the setting.
>>98323296>Buh this subfaction is ninja turtles!Cool, that subfaction isn't the core identity of the skaven I was talking about by any means, you retarded faggot
>>98323307
>>98323174>He's right about the playerbase and skavens are forever a reddit faggot race because of them. And so are the beastmen while we're at it.Nah, I've seen old guard skaven & beastmen players put out some of the best looking paintjobs & model conversions I've ever seen- I will always hold them a tier above no game niggerfaggots like yourself and the other anon whose only interaction with the game is ceaselessly whining about how everything is a tranny or reddit.
>>98323174You have no models nor do you play fantasy.
>>98323321Doesn't look very Tilean to me.
>>98323230the models are too big and too branded, you'd do better by using chaos warriors and replacing the heads with stormcasts'
>>98323358>>98323361>outed faggots seething
>>98323307Another Solkan reference from an older piece of artwork
>>98323365Are you going to show a timestamped fantasy model or continue to show us that you have no models?
>>98323319It is core to Skaven identity, but so are inventions and mutations and mutagen er warpstone. All of which came later. At the start they were just ratmen, a generic dnd mook. All of which is to say the fluff isn't just shitty, it's derivative.
>>98323372I've literally just posted my chorfs. Only faggots are obsessed with >muh no modelsWhat's your next cope going to be?
>>98323358I have never seen a skaven player paint their minis, let alone do cool conversions.
Might as well consider renegade crowns as a legacy list for fucks sake. I can already see my shit getting squatted in the eventual 2.0 edition.
>>98323307>>98323371Looks like your better starting with some Roman minis and adding a few fantasy gribblies.
>>98323363Aren't the wocks getting a size upgrade with the new boxset, though?
>>98323390They are which makes his observations kinda dumb. The new chaos marines are on par with most csm models.
>>98323378>>98323378>It is core to Skaven identity, but so are inventions and mutations and mutagen er warpstone. Nope. All that was covered in one of their first appearances, lorelet.
>>98323230even the generic paladins from mantic are better for that
>>98323380Surely you can post them again then? With a timestamp confirming you are the same spitter of vitriol
>>98323390No.
>>98323396Seethe more furfag
>>98323397Oh wow I didn’t think helmets could look dumber than what the Bretonian knights on foot or high elves could have.
>>98323383Because you've never left your basement, anon, much less played an actual game
>>98323396>All that was covered in one of their first appearances, lorelet.It was not. But feel free to post some references.
>>98323402Are you hateful because you are stunted and tiny? Or are you stunted and tiny because you are hateful?
>>98323389Yeah, Solkanites look more like Roman mystery cultists than Stormcast
>>98323399lol you're pathetic
>>98323412Thought so, I see you manlet
>>98323390>>98323392I don't think you understand how big stormcasts are the new warriors aren't significantly taller than the aos warriors
>>983234081st ed bestiary notes skyre's engineers & clan moulder warpers my dude.
>>98323417stormcasts are effectively primaris marine sized while normal warriors are firstborn sized, this is not even by accident, gw wants the good guys to be oversized
>>98323417Okay yeah that's illustrative, thanks.Also: what the fuck why are they so big
What's the Korea of wfb?
>>98323428Easier to paint >>98323429Just consider them as goblins
>>98322814>t.
>>98323428GW wanted the primaris marine audience.
>>98323390No, they're not. What made you think they would?
>>98323429Khosun.They have zero lore outside of the name on a map.
>>98323421Not a page number>1st ed bestiary notesAlso published in 2005. Lmao try again.
>>98323429apparently, the "lands of khosun" northeast of cathayprobably lots of chaos marauders and hobgoblins for the most part, and of course we can't miss an elven colony
>>98323443Stormcast predate Primaris.
>>98323445They already look better than shit they
>>98323413I didn't even move them btw, I think they saw your gay ass posts and just reacted on their own.I knew chorfs were based.
>>98323456the primaris marine audience already existed
>>98323458Alright I concede the point
>>98323444Precedent, I guess. Fuckers always seem to get bigger with every revision.
>>98323457That's not warham art.
>>98323457Cathay looks great you’re genuinely historically illiterate and have no taste if you dislike them aesthetically. Lore wise sure but their aesthetics are great
>>98323446No retard, the bestiary from THE 1ST ED WFRP book. Way to out yourself as a newfag who has no clue what he's talking about though- your response embarrasses you more than I ever could
>>98323471I wish the jade warriors' foreskins were as tight as the jade lancers'
>>98323458heh
>>98323471>aesthetics are greatThe look of the non-fantasy stuff is totally okay. All the giant missions look like shit.
>>98323470Makes sense I guess >>98323471They look like shit and out of place in any fantasy setting let alone warhammer of all places. I don’t care how historically “accurate” it is (and it’s not, it’s got the British warping all over it that makes it even worse) and are just blobs of the most boring shit to have graced my eyes.
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>>98323481Still not a page number. If you're going to make shit up you can at least provide a real reference faggot. I'm not sure when whatever you're referencing dropped, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't before 1984.
>>98323495226
>>98323385I just realized empire has better synergy with mercs than crowns do. I really am gonna get my nuts kicked in again.
>>98323245no, they haven't, splinter is from '84, skave come a few years laterit's kinda silly to think ninja rats weren't a direct reference
>>98323495Or Secret of Nimh 1982/1971Or Redwall 1986Why do Skaven fags insist that Skaven are original when everything about their modern depiction is stolen just like everything else in WHFB?
>>98323495And btw lorelet retard, there isn't even A CHANCE gw knew even the Ninja Turtles comic existed until the early 90s or whenever the tv show caught on because the og comics weren't EVEN SOLD in the UK because of their uptight censorship crap at the time. But you wouldn't known that because you're talking out your ass ofc.
>>98323526Ninja rats weren't even a part of the og lore- that probably came later (and probably had ninja turtle influence sure, but that's beside the point.)
>>98323529Lol sure kidTell us more about the OC Donut Steel.
Master Splinter invented RatsActually rats predate humans, and in fact human ancestors all through out the time of the dinosaurs were a rodentmorph.
>>98323510Incredibly sovlfvl screenshot
>>9832352980s nerds into dnd and fantasy weren't as clueless about the outside world as you think they would be, jes goodwin in particular has shown, and expressed, a liking of anime before they made it big in the uk too, let alone american publications
>>98323527Where were the 6 ft tall rats in redwall & nimh fighting humans, I forget?
>>98323486I think I know what you mean. The balloon I agree and don’t like, mostly because it’s too big. The longma I am neutral on. I LOVE the sentinel. Which is funny because I hated the Sentinel in TWW the most because of its magical glowing bullshit. The actual miniature is fantastic. Shame it’s pretty bad in game
>>98323541>Master Splinter invented Ratsninja ratsyesMTG perfected them
>>98323526You don't get it. NO ONE made a connection between lab rats and mad science before Skaven! They're so epic and original. You don't get it.
My favorite ninja trope, the atomic bomb and the green laser
>>98323547I dont know how you can like the statue when its bigger than a bone grinder giant. I have additional comments to say but I am a certified cathay hater and im sure they will fall on deaf ears.
>>98323545Yes. >6 ft tall Lmao ratlet please
Skaven are less ninja than Naruto Shippuden
>>98323538I didn't say ratmen weren't an original concept- I said the way GW had them originally in the lore more or less is>>98323544>He knew about anime so the ratmen MUST'VE been a reference to Splinter This is the same setting where you have dinosaurs named after transformers- if Splinter was an inspiration for clan eshin they would've been directed named ninjas rather than assassins right out the game and probably would've had a named chatacter called Lord Skinner or something equally on the nose.
>>98323547nta, but I absolutely hate how big the balloon and sentinel areif cathay was developed like a normal Warhammer army the sentinel would have a single pilot and be roughly equivalent to a gyrocopter, while the sentinel would be the size of a normal giant (if not start out as an elite infantry unit that gets redesigned into a monstrous infantry unit around 6th or 8th ed, all so you can have an actual unit of terracotta soldiers)
Mole men were a pretty big trope since pretty much forever (40s?).I remember seeing plenty of black & white movie posters or very old comics about mole men living underground building shit and being up to no good.
>>98323577Are you genuinely trying to argue that eshin skaven weren't ninjas now?
>>98323564>>98323583The sentinel being huge is justified imo because it’s literally just an animate statue. The balloon is simply too big, and to think there an even bigger Sky Junk that hasn’t come to tabletop yet
>>98323584As a scifi trope for a future/modern day setting absolutely, but when have you ever seen it integrated into a fantasy setting or story?
>>98323584No but those aren't rats you see. No human being is capable of changing one rodent for another rodent.You can only take a zoopromorphic ninja, remove the ninja and the fact that he is actually a man who is rat like (and one of a kind), to make a race of anthropromorphic rats who are about as far from stealthy as possible, and then make some of them ninja's several years after the fact.
>>98323593They were never referred to a a ninjas in their initial mentioning, only as assassins. YOU'RE welcome to provide a source that says otherwise though, faggot
>>98323584>>98323607Oh and of course you have to change the fact that the zoopomorphic man was the second strongest warrior in his multiverse, and the anthropomorphic race of ratmen is literally the weakest race to own a faction on the tabletop.
>>98323604I do not understand how that justifies anything but enjoy the toys I guess.
>>98323607>actually a man who is ratThey literally copied this bit to later with Skaven 's origin and the dreaded 13th. Or were-rats where were a thing in DnD for a very long time.
>>98323606I doubt that's relevant, especially when skaven are so scifi themselves.I don't think skaven are the worst case of plagia, obviously that'd be the dwarfs, the orcs or the elves, but they're also a pretty common trope imo.
>>98323613>This clan is just a clan, not a ninja clan>And yes they were trained in Martial arts in the east by ninjas >And yes they use throwing stars>But they are NOT NINJAS!Lmao
>>98323613Holy shit you are! Unbelievable.
>>98323636Ok... but where's your source stating they were ninjas that trained in martial arts & used throwing stars to begin with, rather than just assassins?
>>98323526TNMT didn't show up in the UK until 1990
>>98323627They’re carved to stand alongside the Grand Bastion right? Would look weird if they weren’t huge
>>98323712So? Skaven didn't get an army book until 93
>>98323741the great bastion is way taller than the sentinels
>>98323747but he they first appeared in 86 and they were already doing the gutter runner stuff in WFRP books before 1990
>>98323604I feel like it's the opposite. A hot air balloon should be huge, the basket is too big though. Sentinels ought be way smaller. Bonegrinders are rarer than hens teeth. Mass produced mobile statues bigger than ogres shouldn't be a thing. Giant sized ones should be "once a century the winds of magic blow strong enough" sort of thing.
>>98323627>but enjoy the toys I guess.where do you think you are
You know what's funny is through all this fake grogs' whining about skaven, I didn't see a single model posted....
The edict has gone out: RUN THE DRAGON BLOODED RASCALS OUT OF CATHAY, STRIP THE JADE DEMON DOGS OF THEIR CLOTHINGIn the West a god became man and now in the East the second tail of the Twin Tailed comet, the brother of Sigmar has arrived to cleanse Cathay of the demon dragonst. Bei Chai Heavenly Kingdom 2278 I.C. (after Sigmar)
>>98323471Based sinophile.
>>98323805>Continues to not post models>>98323811Based.
>>98323847>unbased contrast slop he bought directly from GW I thought the point was to establish you WEREN'T a fake grog?
>>98323881NTA but no models? Or can you not reach the camera you manlet bitch
>>98323847Cute gobbos. I just assembled some bosses and river trolls. Got a couple of shamans with broken staffs as well, going to have to do some sculpting. Hopefully we'll have a dry day soon so I can get these guys primed.
>>98323881Where are your models?I don't normally buy GW, but I try to support the FLGS when I'm there. >>98323928>Cute gobbos.Thanks. It was mostly an exercise in speed painting. I'm totally okay with how they turned out for 21 models in under 6 hours. I'm waiting unto I get the other 80+ goblins done before basing.
>>98323847>>98323928not part of the argument but I'm painting this bowshabti
>>98323945And I'm painting this mounted chaos lord.Still in the very early stages, but I don't like this model. Not one bit. Maybe that's just because I don't enjoy painting cavalry, but something about it bothers me. At least once it's done I'll be one step closer to owning every 5th edition chaos model.
>>98323945Looks slick af. The gold especially. Where's the paint from?
>>98323942I've posted plenty in this and the past few threads and don't feel the need to add more because that's besides the point- I'm not the newfag retard mindfucked by the internet culture war trying to out a faction everyone who's been in this game for ages likes to see.
>>98324015>You should post models, but I won't because reasons K. >>98324015>I'm not the newfag retard mindfucked by the internet culture war trying to out a faction everyone who's been in this game for ages likes to see.I'm not sure what you're even saying here.
trying to get into scratch built terrain with the final goal being a cardboard Fantasy house. going for a basic ass hedge.do you think i can just cover this scouring pad in moss and call it a cedar hedge??
>>98324028>I'm not sure what you're even saying hereThen you're probably not the original anon I was arguing with so I care even less now
>>98324034Yes, such a method features in the "Making Wargames Terrain" Citadel book.
>>98324009Thanks anon. That gold so far is just TTC Dragon's Gold(basically Retributor Armor equivalent) shaded with a dark brown wash. It honestly only looks good because of the lighting. If you're interested in the finished result with highlights and all that I posted the 2 finished ones in the previous thread >>98314975
>>98323408Ate you the same fag that argued chaos warriors were a post-3rd edition thing?at least you sound just as obtuse.
>>98324089That's sorta true though.
>>98324081Your work is killer anon
>>98323811>gets eaten by miao yingpathetic
>>98323770Cathay sentinels are not mass produced. Each one was handcrafted by the dragon emperor.
>>98324149>Gets eaten by kung powSee how stupid you sound?
>>98324153>Hand crafted by the emperor Emperor Temu maybe
>8.1 in 12 hours
>>98324149>She doesn't realise she's getting slimed out by the demon slaying swordLmao t. Human worshipping society
>>98324219>does nothingHuh
>>98324214I beg your pardon, anon?
>>98324236TWW3 stuff i think
So if TK and WE are going to be the next big thing, and they get some updated minis, which ones do you think they will be?
>>98324373Wardancers, Dryads, Treekin and the Branchwraith
>>98324373basic bitch skeletons and horsemen
>>98322171*S4
>>98324095Nope, Chaos Warriors had a miniature line before even Warhammer was a thing. They're yet another thing GW "borrowed" from Moorcock, DnD and Runequest.
>>98324385If they are replacing the horses kit, that also means they have to replace the chariot kit as well
>>98319887They increased the min size of dragon ogres which is annoying because I only have one of the models and it's actually thematic only having one in an army but WAACfags ruined it for everyone else.
>>98322370Where are they? Can't find em in either the gofile or the mega.
>>98323263I'm pretty sure they only became elusive in the WFRP lore after Magnus did the colleges of magic thing and then especially when they were mostly killed by Grom the Paunch, neither of which has happened yet.
>>98324599In the OP >Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4
>>98324615Ah shit I'm retarded thank you
Is Ungor archer spam something that will be seen as cheesy and unsporting for ToW? I like the models and the idea of a bunch of chaff with bows.Thinking of 3x10 or 6x10 of them.
>>98324625No? Why would it.
>>98324373Wood elves? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say:TreesingerGlade GuardGlade RidersTree KinWardancersI think that both makes sense from a set perspective and from a "what desperately needs updating" perspective. It would also fit the 4 different units quota that these boxes have. At least I hope its this, I could see them not doing the glade guard/riders but god those models are looking very dated now.Tomb kings its gotta be a refresh of all the old skeletons, so that would mean:Skeleton warriorsSkeleton archersSkeleton horsemenSkeleton chariotsMaybe the liche priest dual kit that was released a lil while back? That or a new plastic tomb kingI could see the horsemen being dual kits but the warriors/archers feels unlikely, modern posing of archers makes it very hard to do dual kits.
>>98324625They consistently punch up for their cost. I run 2 min size in ambush for this reason. Or a 15 unit in ambush if not playing wild herd. They force the enemy to respond to them at minimum meaning they get to short range very easily and the skirmish keeps them relatively safe.
>>98324480Oh. I get you. Honestly I think that early fluff was better when chaos warriors were "hero level" bad guys leading undead, orcs out effect other minions they could find to fuck things up. Turning them into generic evil foot soldiers is kinda lame.
>>98324369Why would anyone play that shit though
>>98324705Because it's fun
>>98324712no, its not.
Why do they even bother calling it a FAQ if it's straight up rules changes?
>>98324736What, you don't like Fixes and Adjustments Quarterly?
Did marauders or berserkers get furious charge
Instead of making them a point cheaper, just fucking give Empire Knights full plate already.
