Fantasy Egypt is usually good for a couple of sessions in tabletop RPGs but not for a full campaign. And yet the real Ancient Egypt was a civ lasting 3,000 years. Why doesn't it work in games?
I really wish I wasn't an ADHD-brained retard and could run solo games, I really want to run a lewd Egypt game but playing with others would be a big no no
They work better as far away enemies and an exotic realm to occasional visit to plunder their ruins. Their society is too rigid to do much with it, to allow heroes to change things. There are only so many pyramids and tombs you can scavenge.And Egyptologist will barge into this thread and try to prove me wrong, but I will only occasionally open this to look at brown bittches.
Relatively little happened, out of those 3000 years there are just three or four noteworthy eras>unification of upper and lower Egypt>religion switch to Atenism and back>Alexander the Great conquest of Egypt>Egypto-Roman interactions leading to eventual downfall
>>98321419>I only know of this society from memes and porn, so that's all it's good forYou really can't run a game of political intrigue to assassinate Cambyses to try and liberate Egypt?Or a game of military adventure in Asia? How about a game of enduring the end if the world as the bronze age collapse happens and its climax is an epic battle with the sea peoples? Not even a chariot racing sports campaign?Or go fucking apeshit and do children's card games but with magic instead of holograms.
>>98321451also the era of Ten Plagues (though it would be a bit of a railroad, considering many people know how it goes and ends)>>98321458>a game of political intriguethat's rarely ever a good idea, regardless of any further context>military adventure in Asia? nothing specifically Egyptian about that>enduring the end if the world as the bronze age collapse happens and its climax is an epic battle with the sea peoples? this might work, and there's lots of room for imagination since there's no established consensus how exactly it happened>a chariot racing sports campaign?more of a Rome thing, Egyptians saw chariots primarily as tools of war
>>98321451Wow, I wasn't expecting 3 dicks in the full image of that.
>>98321424I'd run it for you if you allowed me to add in a fantasy Hellenistic Greece civilization that is close by and has a good and respectable population of male and female centaurs, minotaurs, fauns, and satyrs.
>>98321482Disappointed?At least you were smart enough to find out on your own.
>>98321487I'll think about it, is there a way to contact you without doxing either of us?
>>98321419It's one of those places where there's not much in between towns, not much within, and not much politically. Like England had vast forests in between towns, there could be bandit camps or little caves or magical secret villages, and the monarchy was also built on smaller local politics with lords and dukes and sheriffs.That and we look at Egypt from a Eurocentric mind and don't think that they're as interesting as us.
>>98321419Traditional games?
>>98321537Unfortunately, no, everything I have is linked to something with my name in it. I realize now I shouldn't have offered, even in jest. I apologize for that, anon, truly.
>>98321539Fair point, but you have just sparked an image in my mind of fantasy analogues to all the wildlife they lived alongside. Youngsters learning how to maybe not piss off river trolls (hippos). Juvenile green dragons for Nile crocs, as the not-Nile is an ancient nursery delta?
>>98321419I'm not normally one to complain about the spinal problems T&A art but her hips are straight up 90 degrees from her torso here.
>>98321539>not much in between towns, not much within, and not much politicallyshould be very relatable for American audience
>>98321451>>98321482Anubian bodyguards should NOT be allowed.
>>98321594Sounds like someone needs to be dragged down the temple dungeon and thoroughly disciplined.
People usually just go into desert adventures and spooky tombs when it comes to Egypt, and those are played out pretty quickly.
>>98321419>Akhen, the Land of the Sun>Akhen is a land defined by a single geographic feature. Named the Nefer, it is both the longest and widest river in the Ecumene, if not the world. Sourced from lakes and mountains far to the East, the Nefer pours itself across the desert before spilling out into the Selene. When the Nefer floods, it leaves behind a rich black soil - the most fertile in the world - which has allowed the Nefer Delta and surrounding floodplains to flush green with life in defiance of the luminous north and south deserts.>This wealth has been sought after by every people who looked upon it. The natives of this land, who call themselves Khemites after the soil they thrive upon, once built mighty states upon the Nefer which flourished long before Kerameikos and Kadesh organized into tribes. These nations coalesced into a single empire which gave the land her name; Akhen. For thousands of years, Akhen developed a civilization that spread across the Eastern Selene, and made her mark upon every land and people that saw the great ships of the Lands of Nefer.>Alas, those days of empire are long gone. Akhen was conquered many centuries ago by Kadesh, and soon Kerameikos sought their own claim of the land. Akhen became the jewel by which any Imperial dream might shine, and the Khemites became nothing more than pawns in these vicious games. The land was rich, but her wealth was no longer for the natives to enjoy.[Post 1/2]
>>98321863>Akhen gold fuels half the states upon the Selene. Akhen grain feeds the people of Bucephalon. Akhen girls are famed for their shapeliness and allure, prized slaves for those with the coin to claim them. The lands of Akhen were no longer governed by their own people, and were now the field by which foreign Empires reaped and profited. Control of Akhen was one of the primary goals of the Wyrding War, and the Kadeshahr and Nicomedian Empire spilled blood over a dozen battlefields for the Land of the Khemites.>With the war's end, Akhen remains in Nicomedian hands as an Exarchate. The cosmopolitanism of the port city of Phaeron, named after a title that has not been said for almost a thousand years, rivals that of Bucephalon and Galamethe. The lands hold an allure that captures all who look upon it, but if there is anything the lands truly hold, it is a plea to be free. The Khemite rankle beneath their Imperial yoke - however gilded it may be - and yearn one day for deliverance so that they might one day truly claim control of their destiny.I wrote my Fantasy Egypt to be Egypt under the Byzantines, a subjugated people that have not known freedom for centuries. [Post 2/2]
>>98321451Bronze Age collapse not worth discussing?
>>98321419Im currently running a fantasy egypt game, actually going pretty well, set in a sort of weirdo mix of the middle kingdom period up to the late period[SPOILER] Its an ERP Fetish game based on my degen art, but as an history&worldbuilding autist the setting is pretty good enough that im thinking of cleaning off the degeneracy and also run it as a normal game [/SPOILER]Having had to study that stuff for a year or so makes it easier to put some pulp fantasy shit on top while making the world interesting enough to explore. Basically my suggestion would be to do not give it a single theme like >>98321675 said, and treat it like every other setting that has more going on
>>98321863>>98321866Kind of interesting, so you took the Ptolemaics and made them Byzantines? I could see how that would be fun. Is the Khemite religion suppressed?
>>98321874>Its an ERP Fetish game based on my degen artYou can't say this and not post the art.
>>98321867Discussing it, sure. But not a good foundation for a game, because the theme of society crumbling under pressure of aggressive migrants coming across the Mediterranean just can't be done tastefully. Not in this century.>>98321874post you're art
>>98321419supporting reasoning?
>>98321884The Khemitic religion is extinct, existing only in cultural artifacts like secret names and deep reverence for the Nefer. This is not Ptolemaic Egypt, that hasn't existed in-setting for over a thousand years. The emphasis I placed on Akhen is that, like Egypt in the 7th century, it exists solely as an exploited province and people whose wealth is not their own, extracted and fought over by Imperialist powers that in ancient days once feared Akhen. Exploitation and objectification are huge themes with the region, where Akhen girls are stereotyped as shapely sluts and the men presented as handsome layabouts.The main villain of the setting is the so-called "Twice-Dead King," a Phaeron of the ancient days who was the first (and greatest) soul to rip himself free from the afterlife after hearing the cries of his people. His goal is nothing less than to destabilize the Nicomedian Empire and Kadeshahr such that they are powerless for his return to uplift the Khemite people and give them independence. Which will not work. Explicitly. A huge theme of the campaign is that the past can only influence the present, not change it. What is dead is dead. You can't keep your eyes behind you when you're moving forward. Respect the past, honor it and take wisdom from it, but what is gone is gone. Every region in the setting has little nuggets of that theme.
>>98321419>Fantasy Egypt is usually good for a couple of sessions in tabletop RPGs but not for a full campaign. And yet the real Ancient Egypt was a civ lasting 3,000 years. Why doesn't it work in games?It only works for short stints because the average GM/player has only a very superficial understanding of ancient egypt, and rapidly burns through their limited knowledge of egyptian "mythology" (aka, egypt tropes gleaned from pop culture) and then doesn't have anything else to draw on so it runs out of steam.
>>98321889>>98321905Sure but be warned its /d/ tier shit vore https://imgur.com/a/qf0qejz the last pic is made by one of the players Its a "once in a bluemoon we get a game going" type of deal, so its more of a series of one shots with the same character than a proper campaign. The setting is p easy: Most of the continent was in "green sahara" mode, with said jungle being your average fantasy hell jungle full of demons and other horrible things, at least until something happening thousands of years ago desertified most of it leaving only the fertile river lands and a surviving (still huge) hell jungle to the south near where not-nile is born. As said its an anachronistic mix of all periods of egypt, but the main difference is that its not as centralized of a kingdom due to the dangerous "adventure friendly" lands separating the various cities, so there is a costant push and pull for influence between the royal family and the various temple cults that administer the city's ecomony and the like. The party is 3 players, two are playing temple guards, which are stereotypical super soldier huge ladies that serve their specific temples interest (crocodile temple guard is a barbarian, temple guard is a rogue) and one rich nepo baby greek elf wizard thats there to "study" like all rich greeks liked to do back in the day taking a few gap years in egypt
>>98322087>anon deliversNeat, and while I don't share this particular... interest, I'll say it's pretty on-theme there.
>>98322128Thats sort of the main excuse for it, basically its some ancient ritual that the humans living in the hell jungle used to get the powers of the main fertility deity of the river to defend themselves and their people witht he whole /d/ stuff being a side effect. And with the millennia it was adapted in the newer cults, but generally means if they kill someone that way they dont go to the afterlife right away, and they take their souls with them from life all the way to the afterlife, helping them skipping the judgement since they have been already "purified" by them
>>98322087I don’t like your fetish but you’re pretty good at drawing.I want to get back into ttrpgs and draw characters. How long have you drawn so I can get an estimation on how fast I can speedrun getting good at art? Is drawing fetish art fun? Warrior women with fit bodies is a staple of every one of my settings and they all are strong with abs.
>>98321419Why doesn't fantasy Egypt work for a full campaign? Surely you have plenty of practical experience on the topic to make this claim. Tell us, what has happened in the many games you've run in fantasy Egypt that led you to conclude that it doesn't work for a full campaign?
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>>98321451>egyptian themed femboy with animal earsSEEEEXXXXXOOOOOOO
>>98322263oh, it's those women
>>98322281too bad most of his art can't be posted without some serious cropping
>>98322254its the usual everyone will tell you man, just draw.You wanna get better? Just draw, some people become god tier in a short time, others like me take it slowly and casuallyYou want to know if drawing fetish art is fun? Try draw it, get a lot of gymbro girl refs and draw some characters and have fun with it, if it looks like shit well guess what, it will always look shit to you unless you have the ego the size of a house, theres gonna be others that will like your doodles anyways just because it strikes their chords anyways
>>98321419I mix it with Mesoamerica and Cambodia in my setting to get a pyramid-building culture that approaches the death cult aspect from a few different angles.
>>98322087>Sure but be warned its /d/ tier shit [Spoiler]That's my magical realm, god I wish I had players that shared an interest.
>>98321451You also forgot to mention the millennia-long tradition of pharaoh inbreeding with their sisters to copy the gods and keep power within their royal families, resulting in them being deformed freaks
>>98321424ERP with solid rules is the only reason I’m excited for the potential of LLMs and deepfakes. Imagine playing sexoooo D&D with five hot MILFs
>>98322569>god I wish I had players that shared an interest.Ever tried looking in places were the weirdos who like your specific taste congregates? I found mine by sharing art in servers and the like. then again it is hard to find people (for example if i wanted more people up to run the game more reliably)
>>98321419I got a setting I was working on but eventually stopped writing for it mostly cause I got bogged down by work responsibilities.The setting was called Dunes of Jihzar and took place primarily on the massive desert continent known as Jihzar. Named after the Sun God who made the continent specifically to be his temple, wherever you walk he always watches.I briefly ran a one-shot where the players were a group exploring a recently discovered half buried tomb belonging to an ancient empire. Also had a system called Kin which essentially was just some fluff about where exactly you'd be from, example people who are Kin of Dantioch hail from lands that are owned by the Kingdom of Dantioch which was established by the warrior king of the same name.
After reading this thread, yeah no shit you can't game in ancient Egypt if you refuse to actually play in ancient Egypt.
>>98321419It does work in games. You would know this if you played any.
>>98323170Dunes of Jizzer?
>>98321419actual Egyptians were too chuddy, hated both tricky semites and vile kushites
>>98321419The gods didn't go on crazy adventures like the Asgard and Olympian pantheons, most of their conflicts were between each other.
>>98323200This is extremely chad like behaviour
>>98321419What are some other historical civilizations that are underutilized as TTRPG settings?
>>98322583It was both worse and not as bad as you make it sound. It usually wasn't sisters but step-sisters (pharaoh had many wives and two of his children would rarely ever have the same mother) but sometimes also father-daughter and rarely son-mother unions.And it wasn't continuous inbreeding, but separate dynasties that inbred within their generations but weren't blood related to each other when power passed to high priest or general.Tutankhamun was inbred pretty bad, and he's arguably the most famous pharaoh, so it gets generalised.
>>98321915>Which will not work. ExplicitlyWhy not? Sounds like he ain't so dead.
>>98321419>good for a couple of sessions Says who?
sex with brown Fate women
>>98324541The Fate System does not accommodate characters with the Aspect of simply Brown and Woman, you need at least one more descriptive attribute or motivation such as “a Brown Women who is the physical manifestation of a superlative AI, or a Brown Woman who is a horrible mother “
>>98324638She's, uh, kinda pale for an egyptian
>>98323798take your pick anon
>>98321591Are you retarded? America is full of things perfect for adventures>spooky forests>spectacular natural landmarks>hostile natives>insular, isolated towns>pit stops and outposts>cryptids both dangerous and just odd>a famous trade route with towns full of oddities to explore, that can be showcased both in its prime and as a dilapidated shell of its former self after the world progressed beyond itI know yuros love to seethe about America and there's plenty to criticize there, but at least don't be as retarded and ignorant as you claim Americans are about it
>>98321419>Why doesn't it work in games?In the end, the average person can't really conjure to mind even a simulacrum of life in ancient Egypt the way they can for vaguely medieval Europe.
>>98323200>ywn be shrunk and forced into a femboy pharaoh’s sandals
>>98323116>Ever tried looking in places were the weirdos who like your specific taste congregates?I could do that, but I'm mortally afraid of my voice being recognised
I think the journey through Duat would make a sweet game in itself, but apparently I'm a weirdo.
broooswhat if the Book of Exodus and the Expulsion of the Hyksos are describing the same set of events but from the opposite perspectives?
>>98324591>a Brown Woman who is a horrible motherRedundant effects don't stack tho
