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>how do I search for non-UB cards?
In the search bar in scryfall, type "-is:ub"

>Can I play UB cards even if I hate them?
Ideally no, but if you must, by try to proxy them, replacing the art and name with an existing in-universe character that fits the colors and abilities.

>TQ
What is a ruling you disagree with?
Norn here says she triggers off a source dealing damage but it's been ruled she actually triggers off of a permanent or player being dealt damage, so it can trigger multiple times off the same damage source.
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Sorry I would have bumped the last one but jannies get me bans cos they ain’t got no friends
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>>98325299
>she actually triggers off of a permanent or player being dealt damage, so it can trigger multiple times off the same damage source.
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>>98325691
Yeah, like Earthquake would trigger her for each of her controller's creatures dealt damage, and her controller, rather than the one spell dealing damage in its one instance of dealing damage.
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>>98325691
>>98325707
From scryfall "Elesh Norn’s triggered ability will trigger separately for each permanent dealt damage by a source an opponent controls, plus once if you’re dealt damage by that source. For example, if an opponent casts a spell that deals damage to you and two creatures you control, Elesh Norn’s ability will trigger three times. Each of those abilities will cause that opponent to lose 2 life unless they pay {1}. (2023-04-14)"
Which is very stupid because it's worded in a way that the source dealing damage is what it's triggering off of, not the permanent or player being damaged.
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>>98325299
man I REALLY like the serialized arts of these praetors
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>FLGS is starting weekly block limited from block cubes the store made
>first night is Mirrodin block

They're asking $20 entry, though. 40 people have signed up already so maybe my hesitation goes against the grain.
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>>98326845
20 for a CUBE night what the hecky?
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>>98326845
20 buck is draft where you keep the cardw. 20 bucks for cube where you get nothing is wild. 5 bucks, sure.
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>>98325956
I only have the ink splatter foils. I wonder why they did different art for serialized so rarely
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>>98325956
That’s how they getcha
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>>98325299
>>TQ
I hate the fact that Neera only works on the first spell she sees you cast each turn. Even though it's a "may" ability, it only "triggers" once per turn, so once you have cast a spell while she is on the board he ability is done whether you use it or not.
I don't think that's how it's intended to work and it would be better with flexibility
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>>98328378
thankfully it's universes beyond so we don't play such things in the first place
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>>98328490
WotC IP is not and cannot be UB, nor was D&D ever marketed as a UB set. It's too hot to entertain your shitposting so I politely request that you just kill yourself, thanks
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>>98328613
All wotc IP is hasbro IP so if dnd isnt UB then transformers sure isnt too right?
>too hot
Fucking europoors kekw enjoy not being allowed air conditioning
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>>98328643
>All wotc IP is hasbro IP
Correct. But this does not mean "all hasbro IP is WotC IP"
You're not even trying, again just kill yourself
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>>98327099
They say if you top2, you keep the cards and the others are recycled into a duplicate cube for successive events all day. They're up to 60 now.

Said they wanted to do a new block every week and have the cards up to RTR. A big time collector passed in the community and he left it all to the shop, they said they had to add very few cards to make the whole thing a complete history from 2005whatever to 2013whatever.
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>>98328646
Hasbro owns wotc itself so to say they have some kind of ip apart from hasbro is absurd, just as it is absurd that you'll die first from no air conditioning
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>>98328654
Your hesitation to honor some dead whale is clearly what's going on here
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>>98328655
>Hasbro owns wotc itself so to say they have some kind of ip apart from hasbro is absurd
It is literally how corporations and intellectual property work
If you are my employee and I give you a company car, that company car does not also belong to every other employee unless I want it to which I don't

Kill yourself.
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Odds of there being some sort of monoblack Avacyn in Reality Shift? I got into MTG recently and holy what a baddie that angel is

Then I find out she's mega ultra dead and no more future versions, despair
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>>98328679
>Odds of there being some sort of monoblack Avacyn in Reality Shift? I got into MTG recently and holy what a baddie that angel is
How would anyone know, friend?
Unfortunately as much as I like the idea of Hexhaven, it looks like a large portion of RF is going to be filled with Hexhaven cards rather than colorshifting characters. There's some room I guess for a colorshifted character to be a lecturer at Hexhaven I guess, but we just don't know
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>>98328643
Wotc and srcyfall don't consider it UB, but you do you.
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>>98328679
I really doubt it bwcause Avacyn's an Innistrad lass and there has been absolutely no reference to innistrad since March of the Machines, and even then it was just a battle and one legendary creature. Before that it was a few years prior but I don't think any overarching story really happened, certainly nothing that involves the current story.
Alas anything is possible with omenpaths and whatnot.
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>>98328906
doesn't show up when I search with -is:ub like OP says so you are lying
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>>98329941
Yes, it does.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28type%3Acreature+type%3Alegendary%29+color%3DUR+%28game%3Apaper%29+prefer%3Abest+-is%3Aub&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
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>>98328676
so... wotc doesn't own any ip of their own just like i don't own the company car, concession accepted
also aren't you dead already from having no ac? europoor KEK
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>>98330226
no optimus in there, even if I add W
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>>98330261
No, I was talking about the forgotten realms cards. They are not considered UB. Of course transformers is.
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>>98332127
idk how wotc has announced they consider dnd non-UB but outside of an unofficial card database doing that, what's the difference?
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>>98332528
WotC owns the IP, I guess. They consider it within the planes of magic, I guess.
Or someone fucked up, I guess, not sure. I don't know why else scryfall would specifically have them as not UB.
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>>98332528
Just looked it up, and yeah, UB is just any IP wotc doesn't own, third parties, basically.
So either the characters are canon within the same universe behind the scenes, or something not being UB doesn't automatically make it in-universe.
Regardless it's not UB and this is an anti-UB thread, so it's still on-topic.
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>>98332528
Here's Mark Rosewater stating it's not UB.
markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/798044255617794048/are-the-dd-sets-considered-universes-beyond-they
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>>98332590
this jew LOVES playing the technicality card
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>>98332590
>has a completely different magic system to all the planes of MtG
>to the point that the MtG expansions for D&D make no attempt or even gesture at the concept of mana bonds
>b-but its not UB honest
I’m sure he doesn’t count Transformers or MLP as UB either, it’s an inhouse brand after all.
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>>98332683
I didn't know wotc owned mlp or transformers
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How did Gideon die again? His sthick is becoming an indestructible creature...

>>98332909
WotC is owned by Hasbro
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>>98333583
Right, but that doesn't make Hasbro IP WotC's, that just makes WotC IP Hasbro's.
Also he sacrificed himself to break lilliana's contract with nico bolas? Something like that.
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>>98333583
he took on the death clause from Liliana's cobtract
he can do that apparently
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luv me moits
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>>98336085
>5 mana in monowhite
Never gonna cast it
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Best monowhite commander
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hi i havent played since 2009. wheres tournament packs? fat packs??
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>>98340177
lol lmao
fatpacks were fatphobic (not kidding) and are now called bundles and have less stuff
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>>98336085
What are moits?
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>getting notifications to pre-order Reality Fracture already
>legit don't even know if The Halfling set is even out yet or not

>>98340852
He's saying "mites" in a silly accent
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>>98341324
>>legit don't even know if The Halfling set is even out yet or not
Its not, and collector booster boxe preorders are already sold out despite being sold for like 50% over the price of a Strixhaven collector box.
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>>98341662
I hate the fat redditors that make up the majority of this game's playerbase
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>>98341677
That bald fucker Richard Garfield didn't consider the internet when making the game. Fat Redditors are just a consequence.
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When do they usually reveal next year's sets?
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>>98342419
later this week I think, spoilers for hobbit and reality fracture too
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>>98342433
I am ready for the announcement
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I'm so bored
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I feel like everything is designed to piss me off these days
surely it can't be that malicious right?
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My friend is in a work, asked me try to get festival in a box. Sold out in 25 minutes. Good job wotc.

Sometimes i wish there would be somebody more greedy az wotc so they would do the math and eventually figure out that if they print tripple the amount people still buy they entire stock and they make tripple amount of money as well
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no no, you see, it's FUNNY to piss customers off with low stock!
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>We'll also share more information on the future of Magic, including Reality Fracture and our Magic Multiverse sets arriving in 2027.
multiverse eh
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Wizards, the community has waited long enough. Give us sex with Jin-Gitaxias already. I know some of you are on here.
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>>98346305
Jin exclusively jerks off to his anime body pillows.
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>>98346286
Planeswalkers in UB, mark my words
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>>98346305
we are not putting gay gitaxias in the OP
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no thanks
urabrask, on the other hand...
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Preview season getting increasingly depressing and seeing obese balding nerds slurping it up every time
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Did any one else NOPE out of edge of eternities? The space shit was too much for me. I know thats not saying a lot after a detective and cowboy hat set... but something about space was just like nah fuck that. Is there any in universe sets that you guys purposely don't use? I guess this is mostly a commander question. Thank god for commander.
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>>98352537
There aren't any sets I avoid using cards from, but there are tons are cards from certains sets I avoid: Neon Dynasty, Capenna, Aetherdrift, Karlov Manor, Thunder Junction, and Duskmorne. Just anything that breaks the fastasy aesthetic too much, really.
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>>98352633
Sorry, yes, edge of eternities as well. I forget it even exists despite you just talking about it.
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>>98352537
>Did any one else NOPE out of edge of eternities?
No I actually liked it way more than I thought I would
>The space shit was too much for me.
The spacecraft and the robots crossed a line for me, but I just don't play them. I've said it a few times ITT but there's nothing inherently wrong with fantasy in space. If they'd made the ship more like Spelljammer and ships were either made of wood or organic creatures, I'd be much more relaxed about it.
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Fallen vs Serra Angel?
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>>98353067
*kiss*
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>>98335105
I mean, is there a reason that wouldn't be possible? I don't really remember the details, but it was basically "obey or die, you get eternal life and beauty", isn't it? When she didn't obey the contract holder (Bolas, at that time), she died, but Gideon stepped in and effectively said "yo babe, lets make a deal that I can die in your stead" and it hadn't even occurred to Lilliana that it might be possible to transfer the death clause because she couldn't imagine anyone being so selfless.
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>>98353990
oh no! will she start aging now? look what those bastards did to my young perky japanese wife!
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>>98353990
I imagine she would have tried to seduce or coerce someone into taking the fallout for her if it were possible
Pretty shitty demon contract if you can just leave someone else holding the bag
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>>98335105
It's a good card too
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https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/822230167992844288/hi-mark-stop-lying-to-players-by-saying-we-have-a
yall 7% of the player population
yall a minority and not the kind that gets painted on Aragorn
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>>98357499
The lies that corpo shills will weave just to please their investors are insane.
The recent investors call, they spun core players trying to vote with their wallets by not buying UB and buying more in-universe as proof that UBpiggies actually stick around and boost in-universe sales- which anyone who's actually played with them knows isn't true.
I have never seen a UBpiggy play an in-universe pre-release or limited, or even Standard. They get in, get their slop precon, and buy singles to modify it.

WotC has said for years it is completely incapable of tracking what its players are doing, especially in Commander because they're convinced a huge chunk of the playerbase plays without registering for events or even in some cases without attending an LGS.
So for them to suddenly come out and claim to have an exact number for how much of the playerbase does or does not support the rape of the game is so laughably false it doesn't even warrant refutation



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