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Work in Progress, Weeb Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI

>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM

>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c

>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk

>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI

>How to Paint with Tremors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g

>Airbrush Priming and Thinning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8

>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny

>Previous Thread:
>>98311470
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Gay, bring back the collage.
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>>98326389
Not OP, but why not bake it yourself then, you stupid faggot?
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>>98326342
I love this one. Nice bake
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>>98326392
nta, I just wait for the guy that usually does it, I wonder where he's been?
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>>98326348
I try not to wonder too much about that. Ideally some kid would get them and they'd just be some cool toys to him.
>>98326358
But total mon-keigh death works too.
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>>98326397
Probably getting some well deserved relaxation
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>>98326397
seeing >>98326389 and >>98326392 he might have jumped off a cliff
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>>98326389
we were already on page 10 and baker-sama didn't seem to be around so I did an emergency bake, suck my dick nigga
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Anyone have any ideals for this Tabard? Working on old tactical to proxy as Karskin, but nothing comes to mind to blend this in well with the rest of the squad.
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>>98326389
You don't deserve the collage.
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>>98326471
You can just leave it plain in similar colour to what you already have. Or add some unit markings or something that could have personal value for him.
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>>98326342
Casual big boobers.
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>>98326471
>Anyone have any ideals for this Tabard?
Off white colour with unit insignia
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Almost done with my Stalkers
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>>98327466
That's a sweet ass color scheme anon. I've built the mounted skellies out of my kit but I'll probably get another one for Stalkers at some point.
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>>98327479
Thanks anon, always enjoyed your work as well. Extremely clean.
I have like 6 snakes in total I have yet to paint up completely. I decided to do 3 as Necropolis Knighs and 3 as just Snakes.
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>>98327509
Hey thanks, I'm happy to hear that. Yeah doing 3 knights and 3 snakes sounds fun. Also I've just realised looking at your background - you're the anon with Astral Claws aren't you? I like those a lot as well
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Frankensteining better arms onto these monks using sprues I found in the garbage at a swap meet lol
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Any suggestions for a Dark Angels terminator librarian kitbash? I need a head but I don't like the stock one and I think a hood would look kinda dumb under the psychic hood thing.
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>>98327622
Yep, Tomb Kings, Astral Claws and Alpha Legion.
Appreciated!
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>>98326471
Mud flap girl.
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Can anyone identify the oil paint here? I want an oil wash for doing faces.

I'm leaning towards either quinacridone red or permanent carmine as the closest match.
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>>98328096
I'd wager alizarin crimson. It's one of the most commonly availible and used colors, especialy for artist grade paints.
Don't use it though; it's not lightfast at all. Quinacrodone red will serve just as well.
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>>98328096
Outside of mini painting, people actually mix their paints, so who the hell knows.
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>>98328473
wtf why?
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>>98328481
Because they're not painting uniform armies and because oil paint doesn't dry in two seconds.
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I have a problem.
I build two tanks, one has olive color the other has tan color.
I want to keep the color as a base because they already look good, I want to add to it, not start from zero.
But I need to prime them and I only have black primer.
1) Can I just say fuck it, not prime, just color and varnish with vase and speed paint? (Because I will touch it a lot it needs varnish)
2) Can you recommend a clear varnish, if such a thing exists (I never saw it in any shop). 9/10 times I want to keep the original color as my base.
Thank you.
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>>98328497
>slop
fuck off
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>>98328499
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>>98328258
It also takes for fucking ever to dry and will strongly tint whatever mixes into it. Main reasons why I don't use it.
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>>98328497
Sorry, I did not mean to ask for a clear varnish, but a clean primer. Varnish being clear is always the case.
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finished the Ushabti
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>>98328542
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>>98328497
>ai slop tank looks better than the Dorn
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>>98328497
You can go unprimed, many people did so for years a couple decades ago, because GW didn't explain priming to us as kids. The paint will be a bit more fragile though, so if you're planning to do a lot of playing you better put a strong varnish on it.
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I'm looking for an old guide for painting the old far harad minis from MESBG. I cannot find screenshots, or the pdf anywhere. Does anyone know where can I find it?
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>>98328258
Thanks, I'll give quinacridone red a try.

>>98328473
This was on a mini painting video for the record:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1a2djIBnXA
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>>98328497
>>98328506
retarded faggot
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>>98328602
>This was on a mini painting video for the record:
An outlier. Regardless, it could be any mix of paints.
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>>98328497
You can coat with a layer of varnish, then paint onto that. It works a bit better than paint on bare plastic. Ak ultramatte is a pretty good varnish. You can apply it unthinned with a brush, guide it to keep ot from pooling too much. If you want more satin, thin it a bit with contrast medium (half and half is good).
Would like to request that you don't post generated images here, though, it kind of harshes the vibe.
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>>98328096
Alizarin crimson hue, it's very transparent, reduce with a good amount of odorless mineral spirits or alcohol as a thinner or the finish will be glossy
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>overcooked myself on caffeine and nicotine
>actually too jittery to paint
Argh! That said, I'm starting to actually like the colors on these skeletons. First models in nearly a year, and I approached them with a contrast paint for the base bones followed by white highlights. Then I tried to use this purple airbrush fluo as a "tint" on the orange sections to give them a gradient effect, that didn't work obviously but I don't know if I actually hate the visible brush strokes on the bottom half of the shields, they might actually look kind of cool in the final product after I paste the shield bosses on? At any rate I think that I do like the high contrast on the bones, especially combined with the bright orange. My next step is to add gold details to the unit leaders and finish their detail work to punch them all up. Do the banner. And dress up the dull metal bits over the whole unit with, I think, rust/verdigris effects paints. Opinions welcomed.
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>>98328506
Based
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>>98329079
quiet down mohindur
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>>98328983
Replace caffeine with Hot Dark Chocolate Coco(from coffee) or Lemon Tea(black tea drinker). Both have health benefits that directly affect what was damaged. It's like chewing gum for smokers to quit smoking.

You could try a detox method where you drink water(nothing else) and have long strain fats (butter/ghee/beef fats/lard/real olive oil) for a month. Eat normally, but if you get fats (no bread/etc) make sure they're those fats.

Caffeine destroys the fat lining around nerves (brain/nerve endings) to cause misfires and shaking. If it's not to the permanent damage stage then you can reverse it.

>mine cannot be reversed :(
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>>98328497
That creepy looking dude, goobertown or whatever that creature is called, made a video stress testing minis painted with primer and minis painted without primer. He put them in a box and rattled the minis against each other for a while and stuff like that.

The difference between primed and not primed was virtually non existent iirc.
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>>98329135
if primer doesn't make a difference why do they waste money putting it on cars?
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>>98329168
they don't paint shadows on cars and they look just fine without it
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>>98329168
adhesion during the painting process, same reason you use it for minis
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>>98329176
I don't think they paint shadows on model cars either but that's neither here nor there. primer clearly makes a difference as many people have encountered when trying to strip second hand miniatures.
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Hey fellas, I’m worried about rubbing the base coat off this guy while I work with him, do you think I should varnish now and again when he’s done, or wear gloves or what?
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Just the base left to go
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>>98329238
Both would be a good idea, especially if you plan on working with oils/enamels on top of acrylics.
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>>98329238
varnishing at certain stages is a good idea especially with larger models, gives you a checkpoint essentially
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>>98326342
Anons
my local LGS recently ran a painting competition, and i feel cheated by the judging.

For your viewing pleasure, and lacking a photo of my actual finished entry, here is a collage of the winners.
Categories are
Top 3
Best Basing
Best Colourscheme
Best Glowup
One entry had 2 winners selected, as it was a double entry.
Painting comp was randomly assigned model from the Sisters Penitent Crusade Host box, cost £10 for entry.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd prize was £50, £20, and £10 store credit.

Guess away on the order of awards, and when i get my model back, i will post it, and you tell me if i got fucked or not.
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The chimera is finished! I got a spinner too, but the file size is too large to upload
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>>98329259
i forgot to attach the image because i am a FUCKING IDIOT
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>>98329259
Woah no wonder you got smoked. Not even close, baby.
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And the wings! I think they came out well with an orange and yellow spotted base, finished with purple washes
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>>98329168
Obviously a car goes through so much more physical and chemical stress than what that youtuber put some miniatures through for a bit, or what miniatures go through in general.
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>>98329238
you should wear gloves when you're painting so you don't get greasy fingerprints on your work. if paint is rubbing off just from picking it up it means there is a problem with your surface prep and you should stop listening to all the fucking retards itt who tell you it doesn't make a difference.
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>>98329269
good local painting contest.
Top 3 : Tank, Engine, Stack of Heads
Best Basing: Chess Board
Best Scheme: Middle with the chaos marine head
Best Glow-up: Neon base / Lightning Whip
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>>98329269
>Top 3
Top middle, bottom left, pink gimp mask
>Best Basing
Chess board
>Best Colourscheme
Chess board
>Best Glowup
Tank
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>>98329250
>>98329251
I’ll give it a shot, thanks
>>98329287
It’s not rubbing off, but I’m worried it will as I typically put my tanks on bases and have something to hold. Better safe than sorry is my stance
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>>98329340
if your paint application is properly done you won't have to worry about it rubbing off. a clear midcoat will provide solvent resistance, which can be useful for things like decals and washes, but it won't affect paint adhesion. it literally can't because adhesion is about what's under the paint, not what's on top of it. don't fall for disinfo.
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>>98329269
it looks like craftsperg could compete with these
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>>98329409
>it literally can't because adhesion is about what's under the paint, not what's on top of it.
you're an idiot who's clearly not very experienced with inks and other fragile paints
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>>98329454
and you have never painted a tool or something meant to be used outside. paint comes off because it isn't stuck to the thing under it. that's how it works. if your paint is rubbing off it's because your surface prep was fucked. putting more layers on top isn't going to unfuck it and it won't stop the paint from coming off.

imagine you are painting the handle of a screwdriver or something. as a joke you coat it with wax before you spray your paint. of course the paint is going to be fucked and fall off. it doesn't matter if you spray an entire can of clear on top of it, the base layer is what's fucked and after using it a few times it's all going to be flaking off.
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>>98329509
>>>98329454 (You)
>and you have never painted a tool or something meant to be used outside.
Yeah, fucking so what?
I paint little plastic men, this is my wheelhouse. Don't bring your fucking screwdrivers into this, noone here is painting screwdrivers.
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Paint rubs off from handling or rough brushes or when the surface isn't prepped or and this is huge, when the paint hasn't had time to harden staying slightly sticky, we think acrylic dries gast but it still must cure hardening with oxygen exposure, if we thin our paints or use extenders that cure time must increase or if we add extra medium because adhesion is either less from thinning or extending or the medium needs more exposure because it's simply thicker. Paint works best at the thickness designers made to with just enough water to get it to flow.so we have to be careful when we modify it. Now some surfaces will peel more easily, these are smooth surfaces usually, texture grabs paint better, but also round surfaces like the head and hands and feet which we handle a lot. So it's a good idea to use holders for the model or paint those areas last. Another pro tip, sweaty hands make models peel worse, so wash hands before handling and dry well, some people wear gloves for that reason alone, but that gets hot making more sweat in the long run, but while airbrusing it's ideal, some colors will peel worse than others, these are the smooth fine pigments, usually solid colors and white, colors with more grit like indian red will have good adhesion. Also wash your models with a very soft toothbrush and soapy water rinsing well before painting. Large flat areas should be very lightly etched by sanding with ultrafine sandpaper like 1000 to 6000 grit, just enough to microscratch the surface or use special resin primer which has better adhesion. Varnish between layers helps but only if the Varnish is given full day to harden, enamel varnishes protect better than polyurethane, poly better than acrylic only, but even matte acrylic varnish like coat darms sells works very well if watered down and washed over the figure dried for a day. Hope that helps.
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I ain't reading all that do I need primer or not?
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>>98329543
Or and as far as varnishes go, testirs dull coate is the classic varnish choice but has to be thinned if bottled, it can be used in airbrush if respirator outside, but i think they also have a canned version for quick applications, amd the bottles if thinned can be brushed applied but you want a soft brush you don't mind ruining because thinner is hard on hairs, but i just use acrylic and polyurethane acrylic varnishes for minis, dull coate is better for larger busts you might be doing with enamel or oils
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>>98329522
just because you aren't handling your toys enough for them to show wear doesn't change the physical mechanics of how paint works. if you want to claim that you can be lazy and get away with it that's one thing, but don't fucking lie about how it is to people who don't know better.
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>>98329558
Always prime bro, wash model with soapy water and super soft toothbrush and rinse well, air dry entirely, prime with very light passes with a good primer, light gray or black works best as primer but white primer is okay too, resin primer works better than regular primer but stinks moar.
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>>98329558
yea, it prevents wear during the painting process, before you apply your varnish
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>>98329570
For starters, noone is telling people they SHOULDN'T use primer, that would be retarded. You just lack reading comprehension.
None of us are lying, this shit has been tested.
The truth of the matter is that the varnish we use is great at protecting the paints we use, so much so that varnished models both with and without primer show little difference in wear after prolonged handling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QprguyGPE50
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>>98328542
>>98328545
neat
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How long do you let airbrush primer cure before painting it?
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>>98329694
The bottle should say, if it's something like Vallejo then ~12 hours.
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>>98329592
>this shit has been tested
yes and everyone except for miniature painting retards understands that a top coat won't fix faulty surface prep. people who paint important real life shit understand it. people who paint model cars understand it. people who paint robot models understand it. only you and your jewtubers think you know better.
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>>98329776
>people who paint model cars understand it. people who paint robot models understand it
This makes you seem like even more of a tard.
I've met a number of people in /gpg/ that don't use primer for their projects, because the lacquers they use actually chemically bond to the plastic on their own and are opaque enough to cover the colour of the plastic, one guy even posted a video of himself spraying white lacquer over a dark plastic spoon to demonstrate why he doesn't bother with primer.
You're not considering the differences between different kinds of paint (hobby acrylics, lacquers and enamels are all different, and different again from any of the paints used to paint "important real life shit"), OR the differences between ABS plastic, PS plastic, different resins, different metals, woods, etc. It ALL depends.
The long and short of it is that primed plastic models WITH VARNISH are only marginally more durable that unprimed plastic models WITH VARNISH.
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>>98329807
you don't use primer with cerakote either. that's not the point. the point is that if you do your surface prep correctly and follow your product's application instructions you shouldn't have to worry about the paint coming off, and if for whatever reason it is then putting a top coat over it isn't going to fix the problem. get it through your head. if paint is falling off the issue is between the paint and the surface. putting more layers on top doesn't fix the problem.
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>>98329844
>it isn't going to fix the problem. get it through your head
What you need to get through your head is that there ISN'T a problem once you've varnished.
Paint DOES NOT FLAKE OFF ANY FASTER if you only have varnish and no primer.
Most of the flaking on plastic models comes from friction on the paint, which is greatly reduced by a layer of varnish.
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>>98329844
>you don't use primer with cerakote either. that's not the point
You're the one that brought up mecha modelling and other kinds of painting. You obviously lack a deeper knowledge of the things you're bringing up as examples.
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>>98329844
That's not really true, paint is porous and will absorb a varnish binding the current layer into a cohesive unit and the varnish will penetrate the current layer sinking down into the previous layer binding the current layer to the substrate. Not as well as proper procedures will do of course, but sufficiently. Remember we're dealing with a 3d object with a lot of texture and surface area from which a shell can form. That's what shellac is after all, a fixative made of bug parts which form a shell and primitive varnish is shellac based. Flaking isn't usually from bad surface but from a flexible plastic cracking the paint after delamination. Because varnish creates a shell and stiffens the model it's fairly effective at preventing cracking and delamination unless the plastic is especially flexible and the varnish especially hard. Citadel doesn't even really recommend priming in their basic process because they hold your hand and suggest the right kind of base layer paints which are opaque and toothy and have a finish suitable for use as a brush on primer. These paints are labeled base. I still prime my models but for their type of plastic it's not necessary if using a base paint first.
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>>98329135
>creepy looking dude
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progressing nicely
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>>98329977
Ooh, nice
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>>98329853
you still don't understand at all. flaking and rubbing off is caused by poor adhesion between the paint and the part. putting stuff on top of the paint doesn't affect this at all, because it's on top of the paint. a top coat can protect the paint from scratches, but it won't stop it from pulling off.

>>98329865
what the hell is it with you people and using wood finish for your plastic models? I've literally never heard of putting shellac on top of paint.
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>>98330030
>what the hell is it with you people and using wood finish for your plastic models?
This is an indication you don't hang out around scale modellers, they use all kinds of shit on their models. Pledge floor wax is extremely popular for a reason, I can totally imagine them using shellac.
Most acrylic primers do not create a chemical bond with the part they're applied to, it's purely mechanical. Other kinds of primers DO create chemical bonds, but most acrylic primers are an exception. You seem to understand gist of the stuff you're parroting, but none of the specifics, and certainly none of the exceptions.
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>>98330043
pledge/future was just clear acrylic so it made sense using it as a cheap finish. shellac isn't even a good finish for wood.

you still aren't understanding that if you have poor adhesion between the paint and the plastic nothing else you do to it other than stripping it and starting over is going to fix it. it doesn't matter if it's because the part was too smooth or if it was covered in oil or if it's because you were using a paint that specifically requires a primer and you forgot it. no, actually I think you do understand it and are just arguing to be contrarian at this point.
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>>98330043
>This is an indication you don't hang out around scale modellers
nta, but this is not very usefull when scale modeling is meant for display and not as game pieces, they using fucking pencils for highlights, that would last half an afternoon on a space marine
they are not always looking for the most durable finish of anything
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>>98330069
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>>98330069
yeah, wip brains
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>>98330074
>>98330069
we just endlessly bicker about minutiae that doesn't even affect how any of us actually paint, and I wouldn't have it any other way
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>go from 40k to model kits
>see this, i have to individually attach trakcks
im not build for this bruh
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>>98330097
>pretending this is hard
People make pirate ships out of match sticks, this comes with an instruction booklet.
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Can we talk for a second about 'pro' painters selling shit?
Like, in what fucking world is someone willing to pay almost 300€ for this shit?
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>>98330105
>>98330069
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>>98330105
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>>98330101
>People make pirate ships out of match sticks
ok but i am not autistic, ship model makers are genuinely insane.
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>>98330105
It looks super fucking cool in my opinion, but 300€ for a miniature paintjob is extremely retarded.
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>>98330105
If I saw that posted here, or in a game at the flgs, I would say that looks rad as fuck, but you can't justify a pricetag like that.
Painting obviously takes a very long time, but you should be able to paint to this level a lot faster than the pricetag implies.
>>98330113
This is just shocking. It has obvious contrast/wash staining for god's sake.
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>>98330105
15€ an hour, 20 hours of work? Maybe I'm off, but it seems like an okay rate.
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>>98330129
>Painting obviously takes a very long time
Lets be real here, that paintjob can be done in a single 4-hour session.
So much of the mini is strait up left primer black, some highlights, osl, and minimal layering
For god sakes I painted this (picrel) in...idk, 2 hours?
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>>98330105
>the base isnt even fully integrated, just glued on top and painted
These 'pro' painters need to be shot in the head.
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>>98330146
>Lets be real here, that paintjob can be done in a single 4-hour session.
Yeah defo. A good painter should easily be able to do this in 4-6 hours depending on their pace.
I assume it took the "pro painter" around 6-8 hours to paint this, and they're charging 35-45 euros per hour of work, plus the cost of the mini, bits and paint.
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>>98330105
A guy on reddit offered me $250 for one of my minis. I think some people just have a lot of money and can't be bothered to learn to paint themselves.
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>>98330180
Can you post a pic of it? I'm curious now.
I assume you sold it to him, I would have.
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Man if thats the 'pro painted' level I really need to star selling my minis.
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>>98330187
Sure. Its not even that good, he just liked it for some reason. I was considering selling it but decided not to in the end.
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>>98330203
I mean, it's pretty clean with no obvious mistakes, that must be like finding a unicorn for the average Reddit painter.
To be honest, just based on the other prices we've seen in this thread, you could've charged much more than he asked lol.
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Taking applications now, starting at $20/hour (this takes me roughly 4 hours)
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>>98330105
>Can we talk for a second about 'pro' painters selling shit?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
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>>98330069
Is it just me, or did the thread get a lot worse and dumber over the past few months?
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Side hustle culture was a mistake.
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>>98330228
It's because I started posting, sorry.
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>>98330228
It's summer.
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>>98330097
>individual track sections
Yeah, 40K would never do something like that
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>>98330097
>not even workable tracks
You haven't seen nothing yet.
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>>98329259
>1st, 2nd, and 3rd prize was £50, £20, and £10 store credit.
Le mao. You need to place top 3 to get store credit? Fuck you nigga.
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>>98330212
I mean, there's a lot of really good stuff on reddit, as much as I hate to admit it. Funniest thing is I think my more recent stuff is a lot better than that Starpriest yet that was the only time anyone ever asked
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>>98330097
>Tamiya Tiger
Nice
I sure as fuck hope you are not gluing these wheels before painting them.
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>>98329269
not gonna lie most of those look bad, the tank has seamlines that can fit a fist, no drilled barrels and the girl on top looks unpainted
best one i'd say is middle top, but the yellow base rim and the orc heads breaks it, second probably the robot thing
the checkerboard base is nice but the model is a low effort paintjob

best base is the pink one isn't it?

>inb4 post your models (again)
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>>98330347
Yes, they all look like shit. Then again, they are all probably painted by a friend of the judge. Such is the way of the LGS.
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>>98329269
These are all hot steaming garbage, holy fuck.
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>>98330221
I was convinced this one was a joke, but they have a website and a portfolio and everything holy shit
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>>98330428
look up painted armies on ebay anon, it's eye opening. There's an admittedly very nicely painted harlequin army listed at $20,000
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Memories... my first sculpt
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>>98330447
>$20000
holy fucking shit
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>>98330447
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>>98326342
Pretty much done with the Judiciar kitbash. Was fun trying out fiery effects
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>>98330473
Excellent stuff as always, BT anon. Looks proper spooky.
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>>98330470
this genuinely upset me
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>/wip/ - screeching at ebay deals
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>>98330507
>t. ebay ai goth woman
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Should I strip and repaint this guy i've had since I was in HS? Or just get a recast one to paint instead? Procrastinating doing my Lion

>>98330473
incredible anon, really well done!
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>>98330620
only you can answer that question, does it have emotional value to you?, do you want to keep it as a memento from another time? or you can just live with taking some photos and striping it
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>>98330620
Don't strip him.
You must never forget who you are, and where you came from.
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The base finally arrived so locking in this guy's arm pose.
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>>98330470
if he were using the same girl in every pic that might be a genius tactic
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>>98330652
He's obviously trying to, but slop still can't into consistency.
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>>98330458
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>>98330620
I mean it depends.
If you have lots of minis from that time, sure go ahead, but if not I would keep it as a reminder of my youth and to see how far I've come.
I have stripped several minis from 20+ years ago, but for example I would absofuckinlutely never strip my first unit.
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>>98330682
>>98330637
>>98330635
It's the last model I have from back then, so I guess I'll keep him
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>>98330097
tracks/wheels are always the most tedious on tanks, that's a simple one, and tamiya so prob fits perfectly, stay away from shit like miniart if this annoys you
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>>98330620
I love this model so much
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>>98330489
Appreciated

>>98330620
Thanks and whatever you end up choosing, do post the result here
I really like that sculpt and I wish the latest iteration of the terminator chaplain actually looked as good as that one.
The helm especially is significantly worse.

>>98330753
Looks great
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Is brush soap at all applicable to synthetic brushes? Does it even make sense?
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>>98330772
Doesn't make sense to my brain tbdesu.
Soap and conditioner soak into the natural hairs, so it won't work the same way for synthetics bristles, which aren't porous in the same way.
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>>98330772
Only if you want to form the bristles for storage. Otherwise no.
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>>98330347
Did you also notice the tank is painted with contrast and lacks any real shading?
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>>98329269
>not a painted eye in sight
ffs
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>>98329425
/wip/ is an unusual ecosystem, it seems like we have an unusually high proportion of skilled painters when compared to most other spaces online or in person.
I actually wonder if craft-kun's mid-level painting would actually be considered quite good at most local events.
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>craft-kun
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>>98330849
>>98329425
why the fuck do you retards talk about that cretin unprompted
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>>98330861
Because it's craftsperg just huffing his own farts while attempting to be sneaky.
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>>98330856
He posts often enough that it feels unwieldy to call him "sperg" every time.
It also somehow feels more degrading, in a way.
>>98330861
Like it or not, he's an important character in this thread.
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>>98330871
>he's an important character in this thread
No craftsperg, you are absolutely not. You're a mentally ill faggot unqualified to give anyone advice because you're a painfully mediocre painter yourelf.
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>>98330870
ahh, fortunately I'm not the sperg
you can tell because my camera isn't nearly grainy enough
>>98330886
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>>98330849
>we have an unusually high proportion of skilled painters when compared to most other spaces online or in person
no we do not
you are confusing wargaming spaces with painting spaces
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>>98330844
I hope it never falls over on the table because that fucker is going to EXPLODE
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>>98330452
Love this guy, n I'm glad he's in the face collage
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>>98330907
We're in a mini painting thread, did you seriously assume he was talking about traditional painters?
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>>98330907
Nah, places like instagram and reddit have wayyyy more new painters compared to experienced ones, here we have somewhat of a balance.
What other painting spaces have higher percentages of skilled painters than here? I assume there's a couple, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. Hard mode: no private 'cords.
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...
I like craftsperg painting style.

There's something old-school and very befitting to miniatures in the more muted and somewhat pastel like tones.
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the least obvious samefaggery.
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>>98330772
i'm not sure. i ordered some brush soap with my last batch of synthetics and i'm using it religiously to see if it helps maintain them. what i'm finding is that no matter what the tip of the brush still curls which is incredibly annoying because i am militant about not getting any paint in the ferule and cleaning the brush after every use and yet it curls. the brush soap does help to clean it and form it back into a better tip at the end of each session but once the soap washes out of the brush the tip still wants to curl. is this just what synthetics do no matter what?
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>>98330963
very subtle LMAO
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>>98330963
Now this is craftsperg. Not a samefag though because I'm the guy that posted the bret.
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>>98330925
why the fuck did you think I was talking about trad painting and not mini painting
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>>98330963
>muted and somewhat pastel like tones
he clumsily slaps garish colours on coomer minis. what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>98330809
honestly, looks like it's painted with floor mopping water
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>>98330992
because it's him trying to make the thread about himself, don't take the bait
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>>98329269
I'm a noob and I'm confident that I could mog all of these
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Any Eldar friends that paint Ulthwe got some tips to share?
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>>98330995
Wrong timezone though?
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>>98329269
That store should start selling airbrushes.
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>>98330969
>>98330977
>>98330995

I'm not him. I care not for his tirades, nor for the people that have an aneurysm anytime he posts his minis
I just like that particular style of painting.
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Why is he so based?
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>>98331115
you tell me
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>>98331115
I have no idea how I didn't stumble upon him earlier
I was just trying to figure out the difference between acrylic medium and flow improver and someone linked his vid to me and suddenly I discover that he has fucking tons of material covering every single topic. Immensely more helpful than any other channel I've seen, yet he never showed up in my feed naturally.
Is it just because he doesn't play the youtube game of stupid faces in thumbnails and all-caps titles or what?
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>>98331113
>lazily slopped baseocats
>style of painting
again, you're not very subtle
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>>98331155
I discovered him only because I use Brave browser and have toggled the option to remove all thumbnails from youtube.

It is insane how different of an experience it is once you remove all the things designed to manipulate your and steal your attention
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>>98331115
He is kinda like AK. His goods (advice) might not be THE ultimately best one out there, but it's good, solid, dependable, and it just werks.

>>98331155
>Is it just because he doesn't play the youtube game of stupid faces in thumbnails and all-caps titles or what?
Obviously.
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>>98331160
NTA but why should we have to be subtle? Some of us actually like cratspergs work, if you don't like seeing that it is liked, gtfo.
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>>98331174
>NTA
lel
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Stop engaging with him. Let him do his little solo circlejerk, stop giving any (you)s.
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>Watching a tutorial
>Following a guide (like 'eavy metal)
>Always have multuiple edge highlight colors on top of one another
>The end result is you can't see any but the last one

Why do so many "high-end" painters overcomplicate this stuff? I see this a lot with edge highlights but also with other things like basecoats and shading - putting in colors that you can't see at all at the end. It's one thing if it's thinned to a glaze / layer consistency where it's transparent but when you're just basing or edge highlighting, the paint is relatively thick and not transparent at all.
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>>98331180
(You)s aren't updoots my friendly predditor!
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>>98328497
KYS sl0p f@g
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>>98331185
>Always have multuiple edge highlight colors on top of one another
>The end result is you can't see any but the last one
Then they're doing it wrong. The earlier ones should be wider so they remain visible and form a gradient.
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>>98331273
Don't reply to the sperg.
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>samefags
>gets caught
>starts lashing out in a melty
Classic.
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I got pretty lazy with these guys but they're done.
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>zenithal highlight and/or coloured undercoat
>followed by fully opaque basecoats

At this point I'm not sure if most hobby videos are made by literal retards or al generated, because this shit is mental.
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>>98331363
That's great, but what about taking that back to /40kg/, I'm sure they will care.
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>>98330105
this wasn't advertised as pro, but a whole "beloved" SoB army(not even half of them painted) on sale with a prize winning(!) model in it, pic rel
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>>98331363
>>98331185

acryllics are not 100% opaque, the undercoat will always come through. If you looked at it without it, you would see a difference.
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I am asking once again
>>98330069
>>98330069
>>98330069
>>98330069
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>>98330473
sick
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>>98331390
requesting permission to rename the general into /sip/ - shitposts in progress
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>>98331401
I for one would not mind if you made that general and moved over to posting there.
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>>98328497
Pretty good AI shitpost tbqh
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Reaper bones actually has some rly kino models
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Built some skirmish dudes.

Yes, I‘m squeezing every last drop out of the skulls box.
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finished the bases might do a couple more minor details but feels pretty much done
snow bases feel difficult to make good
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>>98331340
How small are they next to the plastic ones?
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Got three 'nettes ready to test schemes on.
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made a librarian out of bits I had
the only thing I regret is not realizing how thick the chest emblem was before I glued it on
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>>98331691
Very nice. 30k or 40k?
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>>98331571
that box doesn't need to be squeezed, it can last you a lifetime if you don't forcibly burn through it.
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>>98331705
It does for me, I ran out of human ones a while ago.

I like a good skull.
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>>98331667
Pretty small.
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>>98331698
40k for a badab campaign after taking like a yearlong break
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>>98331730
Ah, jeez.
Guess I'll do some bits hunting to make all of my warlocks look a bit more unique then.
I play Ulthwe and want to run at least 8 of them.
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Anybody else paints at work?

I've been doing so for a month or so and it's really nice squeezing in a clean 5+ hours of painting a week in addition to whatever I can manage at home in the evenings/weekends.
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>>98331810
Call me weird, but I work at work.
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>>98331810
Anyone who does this is a product of nepotism, people who actually earn their pay would get fired for this.
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>>98331886
slave mentality
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>>98331743
Trying to fill a seer council list is ass. They desperately need a new warlock conclave box.
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This isn't directly miniature painting, but it got algorithm'd at me today and some people might find it informative for better understanding of NMM and how metallic reflections work in a way that I haven't really directly seen before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3bkGPobpTw
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>>98331921
Yeah, $60 for two Warlocks is bonkers.
If it was $60 for four Warlocks, I'd complain a bit less.
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>>98331848
>>98331886

Anons please, obviously it's during my lunch and breaks.
As much as I like painting miniatures, I'd still like to keep my job.
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>>98330343
Oh damn, I was about to.
Not a big fan of painting bits while they're still on the sprue. I wanted to assemble and then paint like always.
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>>98331898
No, that would be the belief that one should work or one is worthless.
What you are doing is different, you are agreeing to work a set period of hours per day for an agreed upon wage.
That has nothing to do with wether or not you think your employment makes you valuable or not.
What you are doing is theft, you agreed to the deal and now you're taking the employers money to fuck a dog instead of working.
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>>98330447
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is going to buy it. Those people live in la la land. Lile those boomers trying to sell old shit for 90% of the original price when they should be glad if they get like 20% or brides selling their 1000€ dresses for 900€, because it's "as good as new".
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These guys are finished now. I think they could be better but I have more models to paint and I don't think I am going to learn much agonizing over them. Need to crack on.
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>>98331947
Get some wooden skewers/sticks/toothpicks, attach the wheels. It's pain in the ass, but it's better than half-assing them once glued. Also, protip: use plastic cement to glue the tracks on, wait for a couple of minutes, and then remove them before it fully hardens. That way, they will keep shape and you can paint them freely. After you are done, you can just glue them for good.
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>>98331951
lmao I bet you're the kind of dumbass that runs around looking for more work during downtime believing someone will appreciate the extra effort. You think like a slave, cope and seethe
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>>98331951
but he said he's doing it on his break (which makes sense with the 5 hours per week).
How is that wage theft?
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>>98331951
peak goyim
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>>98331810
almost exclusively paint at work these days.
I work from home.
i also paint on my lunch breaks and in the 2+ hours of meetings im in daily to just say "yes" when asked if we can do it
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>>98331967
classic pots. classic paint job. they look great. next ones will be even better, you right
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>>98331810
Not yet, but I think I might start.
it might be a good idea to get through the first few stages of painting.
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A wip of my corsair
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>>98332154
Thanks! I am quite pleased with how this guy is coming along. I have spent quite a lot of time on his skin, and the back stripe I managed to square away almost by accident. I think he's the best I ever painted. Not sure what to do about that weapon though.
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This guy has been a great opportunity to practice painting gems. Blending oils is ridiculously fun lol
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WIP of the first marine of my Armageddon box
Finally settled on a scheme and style for them

>>98331728
absolutely cool
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>>98332019
Trog iq, if you have a job do the work you lazy reptillian monkey.
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i tried GSW's filthy dirt patina
it sorta works, wish they had a darker brown tho
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>>98331986
>>98332019
No, if you agree to a job, you do the fucking job
>>98331989
Look at the timing, he replied while I was still writing.
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>>98331951
They'll never let you eat at the jewish country club, shabbos
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>>98332487
Does it hurt to rub your two active neurons together?
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>>98331810
I considered it, but the environment and the vibes are just not ideal for me to be in the mood.
I work at low or zero traffic shifts at a reception.

I will now proceed to read two game system reviews I put away ealier and then fire up my Deus Ex playthrough on my laptop

>>98331951
But good job, anon, got many (You)s
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>>98332495
Not since they let me realize how fake and gay you are
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working on a goblin
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>>98332535
I thought goblins were all just sexy anime elves people painted green?
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>>98332549
they're whimsical yet horrible guys in my head
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>>98331062
The 1999 Eldar codex is really handy. It's in the /40kg/ torrent in their OP.
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Question for /wip
I'm painting up a dark elf fight in plate with two swords as a deep purple armor, and green cape. Does anyone have any suggestions for some oldhammer Blanche style armor decorations?
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>>98329268
Worst photo ever
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>>98332558
luv a pink schnoz on minis
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>>98330470
We have maree, who is at least a real human being (mostly)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/htq75RgNpkE

And apparently paints better than 90% of this thread.
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>>98332691
I like her voice but that shit is not better than 90% of this thread, you fucking simp
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>>98332393
Based skullbro
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>>98332691
>that
>small
yeah, women....
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>>98329269

Right Lads
Here is my entry, not my absolute best work but i feel i did pretty good.
as i was collecting it today i was told that my model made some of the placing of winners 'difficult'. Not reading into it too much makes me think the judges stared into the sun for an hour before judging. Reading into it, im inclined to believe the winners are big spenders at the store, but i might be schizophrenic.

>>98329320

To Answer questions about the Winners,
1st - Top Left
2nd - Top Middle
3rd - Top Right
Best Basing - 2 Bottom Left (double entry)
Best Colourscheme - Pink Base
Best Glowup - Bottom Right

>>98331100

They do, and Airbrush compressors
I would not trust these spastics with them
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>>98329269
Well, none of them are particularly good.

Top 3 (unordered)
>rhino
>bottom left
>top middle
best basing
>bottom, second from left
best colorscheme
>bottom left (ngl, I don't love any of them for this)
best glowup
>rhino
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>>98332823
Yours may be marginally cleaner than some of the others (it's hard to tell because of the pictures in the first post aren't as good as the ones for this mini)
But if you want my honest opinion you still need a bit more to make the model pop if you want to place in local comps with something like this. The base should be simple, but not 'just texture paste' simple. Chess board like that other anon said, or the one next to it. Not the bottom 3rd or top 2nd, despite the judges giving it to top 2nd that's too much imo. (also bottom 2nd should only have 1 of those skulls)

also, I think your color scheme is a bit too neutral. I don't hate the black and white, but I would recommend incorporating more of the red/burgundy throughout. Like instead of all the filigree on the sword, maybe the Inquisitor symbol or the straight sections are red. something like that.
As it is, that is like a respectable tabletop quality mini, but not quite at the level of what I'd want out of a competition piece. But like I said before, the others weren't that great either so you can probably beat them if you just had better composition next time.
Though based on the results you posted, the judges might be rewarding based on a bit of perceived effort and not the actual results, if that makes sense.
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>>98332823
Im gonna be honest with you, you're not that far off from a few of them. You not placing is a little silly but yours is more plain than theirs. So they likely basedjaked at colors and the tank for the freehand.
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>>98332823
I have to agree with the other anons, your scheme is too safe and lacks contrast plus the overly simple base brings the entire piece down. Even something as simple as painting the sword red would've helped a lot.
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>>98332823
boring
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>>98332379
entirely as a compliment, its got 90s action figure vibe. sick as hell
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>>98332823
Super basic stuff here, so what if you did it in white? And the basing is blander than oatmeal.
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>>98332952
>>98332913
Yeah, kinda regretted the white sword in the end but it is what it is, spent too long on the skin and started running out of time to get the model submitted and so the base suffered too.
I do think i should have gone with more for the base.
Was trying to really get through with technical skills, and got too bogged down in keeping the model simple with its colours.

And yeah i think it was partly judged on percieved effort, i got too schizo in my perceived slight.
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I tried out Pro Acryl Petroleum Brown and I didn't realize it has a really glossy finish. I thought it might be a good leather color, but it's thinner than other colors by pro acryl and it's glossy. It does look like you dunked it in crude oil though.
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>>98333032
Here is an example of what I would do. Still kind of phoning it in on the base, but even a little rock is something.
Basically, work on your highlights for round volumes, and outline where materials change in black. None of this is shading (other than the blacklining), it's just adding like 1 highlight pass to the skin, shirt, and sword handle.
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>>98333032
i think perceived effort is the wrong statement. its more going on excitement or visual interest.
All the others just are more interesting to look at.
its really nice to see you being self reflective, thats the right path here.
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>>98333067
NTA, I originally used the term perceived effort because of the glow up winner, and the big top middle base. Both, especially the lighting effect, are poorly executed and make the model look worse imo. I agree that visual interest is an issue with anon's model, but I don't think the models that did win solved it in effective ways either. Checkerboard is by far the best level of interest all around.
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>>98330030
Shellac is used as a varnish amd basecoat for oils and enamels regularly including for oils on canvas. All the old guys used stuff like that. It's what we had during the 80s before ral partha and citadel had varnishes and primers of their own. And we painted on lead usually, sometimes clay or wood or epoxies. Modern bitches are too particular, we just made shit and had fun.
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>>98332365
>multi wing corsair
This is cool
Now I want a dragonfly themed jetbike unit for exodites
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>>98330681
Hey I saw that lord of change before
It’s a cool model but I wouldn’t pay $1000 for it…
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>>98332387 >>98332365 >>98332379 >>98332393 >>98332461
Great job
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>>98332678
>>98332558
>>98332535
They cute
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>not tagged
it's over
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>>98333308
forgotten brother, i am with you
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>>98330681
one of my friends exclusively commissions from that guy (maybug) and the models look great in the ads but up close and in any game photos, they look like blobs with almost no definition with shoddy airbrush work
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>>98330105
This pic is ten years old. Not sure how it's aged or what the prices are now.
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>>98333352
I miss when all the "pro" painters just did mediocre airbrush jobs. Now everyone and their mum seems to own an airbrush, so these borderline scammers have gone back to just slopping paint on models and calling it a day.
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>>98333365
But... my mom doesn't own an airbrush
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>>98333352
I just googled them and apparently they pivoted into board games
guess the airbrush slop didn't pay well
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>>98332535
goongoblin has a penis in his hand.
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>>98333459
It might also just be a much more remunerative market with a much lower ceiling on what's considered a "payment worthy" paintjob.

Virtually all wargamers are also painters since painting miniatures is almost a requirement for playing games.

People who only fo boardgames are much less likely to even have paints, and are probably much more willing to pay for what they consider a luxury addition to their gaming experience.
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How would i go about painting dirty looking whiteish banners like this? Some watered down nuln oil wash?
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>>98330473
thats amazing. wheres the head from?
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>>98333533
Bone colors and brown washes
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>>98333533
>Some watered down nuln oil wash
That would be blacker than you picrel, maybe agraxearthshade mixed with some contrast medium.
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WiP of the boyz mob.
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>>98332823
the models are so ass looking that even the best paint job would be dragged down by them. gw didn't even try with nu repentia.

>>98333133
>It's what we had during the 80s
unless you're talking about the 1880s I'm absolutely positive that you had better clear coats available than fucking shellac
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>>98333413
You're right, she borrows mine.
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do you guys use decals or do you prefer to freehand?
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>>98333854
freehand
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>>98333854
Freehand or bust, I'll take low quality freehand over decals any day, I'd rather see you try.
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>>98333854
If you have decals of what you want to paint then put it on and paint over them as a template with more detail.
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Are golden high flow paints more or less transparent than inks? Can/should I use it over liquitex white ink?
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>>98333958
that's cheating.
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>>98333959
i mean instead of liquitex white ink
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>>98333959
They're the same thing. Transparency depends on the pigment.
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>>98334009
No
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>>98330681
Look at sold items. Not ended, but sold.
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"Finished" painting one of my kroot killteam dudes. I ordered some basing paste but its been late getting here for like a week so I just went ahead and painted him anyways.
I just need to varnish him but ill do that after I use the basing paste.
My friend told me to paint him like a native american so I tried doing some warpaint, but I think I could have done better.
I also fucked up the eyes because my hands are too shaky which I don't really know how to remedy.
Other than that I think it turned out alright.
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>>98332678
Cute porc
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>armageddon vanguard vets are all left hand melee
>actual cool weapons from hh are all right hand melee
why must they rat fuck me at every opportunity?
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>>98334450
I dunno ask /40kg/
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>>98328983
The desert shields are so cool. You say you wanted a gradient, but it reads like they have painted desert dunes on their shields and its awesome.
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>>98330221
>£10 material costs
Genuine scam. It costs nowhere that amount of "material costs" for 1 (one) miniature.
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>have a ton of water decals at home, I never used until now (can't tell you why)
>missus is still asleep so i got some time to myself
>decide hey you know what, how about i use them, im certain they could greatly improve the looks of my minis
>look up a tutorial on how to apply it on youtube, click on a random shorter video
>"first of all, we gotta get our supplies! so we're gonna need some rubbing alcohol, Mr. Mark softer (tm), Mr. Mark setter (tm)..."
great, more stuff to buy
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>>98334520
You don't need that stuff, but they do make your decals look better.
The only thing you really need is some gloss varnish, since you wanna make the surface smooth before you apply the decal.
Just go: Gloss -> Decal -> Your choice of topcoat.
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>>98334390
thanks; they were a lot of fun
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>>98333365
Can you blame them, if people buying it? If i had no job and just some unemployment benefits and i knew people would spend a few thousand on my minis, ofc i would start to sell minis on ebay.

Its doubtful that it works that well tho.
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Cape and armour progress so far on the Lion
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>>98334631
That's a sexy leather brown anon, great work. Can't wait to see it done.
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>apply decals
>want to put one exactly between two lines
>0.5mm too far left
>0.5mm too far right
>0.5mm too far left
>0.5mm too far right
>get a panic attack or some shit
Wtf
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>>98334548
>>98332678
whare are these guys from
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>>98334631
>drybrush
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>>98334746
otherworld miniatures pig face orcs. looks like that site closed but badger games still carries some.
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>>98334759
thanks
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After months of inactivity I went back.

I wanted to do a fast slapchop, buy it took a lot more time than planned. I didn't have a real Plan btw, just went in with 1 quick paint then I add annother. Looks too much monochrome and I still have to refine some stuff that looks horrible and detail, but well, almost tabletop ready.
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>>98334761
go forth and spread the good word of piggy orcs
oink!
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>>98331394
>>98333538
Thanks

Head is a 3rd party print, hood is made with greenstuff
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So after applying a wash do you go over the model again and apply some highlights?
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>>98334869
In most cases, yes.
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>>98334869
Yeah, the beginner's level formula GW used to push was: Basecoat -> Wash -> Highlight
It's still pretty reliable all things considered.
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>>98334869
you can also use a dilute wash, also known as a glaze, to unify gradients if you've been highlighting a bunch and want to tie everything together a bit more
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>>98334900
a diluted wash isn't a glaze

a glaze needs to have uniform albeit extremely weak, coverage

washes prioritize capillary action and the more you dilute them the more they will do so
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anything i spray through my airbrush smells fucking awful
i think there's mould growing inside it
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>>98335020
Congrats, you've just made a homemade plague spewer, your entire space is now coated in tiny mold spores. Papa Nurgle would be proud.
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NMM niggas mixing 8 different colors instead of just using GW Retributor Armor
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>>98335039
I only use 3, actually.
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>>98334943
dilute with glaze medium, checkmate :^)
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>>98334943
You can absolutely glaze with a wash, but only on larger, smooth surfaces (like capes). Most glazes should be thinned layer paints.
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>>98334900
That's called a filter, anon.
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>>98335173
NTA, that's still a glaze, just applied as a filter.
That's like saying, "that's not layering, that's freehand", it's both.
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Any oil barons itt?
How long do you let the oils cure before varnishing them? I've painted some minis, they are touch dry (i think) by now, but I've read that oils take months to fully cure after hardening, I'm worried that varnishing now might cause problems down the line as the paint is dry but probably not fully cured yet
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>>98335565
For fuck's sake, why do you think everyone uses acrylics?
put those minis somewhere they won't get dusty or touched for half a year and finish them when they're ready.
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>>98335565
>but I've read that oils take months to fully
Canvases with fuckload of them, yes. Artists often wait half a year+.

The amount of oils used on minis is minuscule compared to that. A couple of days is usually alright. A week is a safe bet.
You can cut down that time considerably by:
>1) removing the linseed oil before using them
Just let the paint rest on a piece of cardboard for couple of hours prior.
>2) Using drying accelerant/medium.
Use something like VMS Oil Expert instead of regular white spirit.
I use both, and oil washes can be safely varnished overnight, thiccer layers in ~2 days.

Also, higher quality artist grade = more oil, so these can take a bit longer. Dedicated hobby ones like Abteilung usually dries a bit faster.

>>98335605
Stop posting nonsense.
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>>98326342
Going to post afew WIPs of my orks.
This is my Custom wazzdakka, trying to make it resemble the 4e art.
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>>98335638
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is namefagging really necessary?
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I see nothing wrong with it
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>>98335654
Nice opinion anon, now post your models.

>>98335649
Converting a Battle wagon from a 1:34 tamiya tank.
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Don't bother replying, I already filtered your ass.
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>>98335703
Land raider for scale

>>98335716
Defeated male leaves, total model poster victory.
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>>98335732
ntab
>modelposter
fuck off back to 40kg and stay there, faggot
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>>98335638
>>98335649
>>98335703
>>98335732
You need to go back.
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>>98335755
Is in WIP and posts no WIPs, looks like you are in the wrong general.

>>98335732
Recently done looted wagon.
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>>98335769
Well, debating if i should call it finished. Might do more on the flames or stick a marine corpse as a trophy. But atleast "done" to my tabletop requirements.
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>>98335654
>>98335716
>>98335755
>>98335765
how about you kill yourself you double gorilla nigger, at least hes contributing to the thread with actual models unlike you who are just sperging

I swear to god, sometimes these 'anti spergs' are even worse than the people they critizice.
At least those post models, even if shitty.
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>>98335791
Amen bro.
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>>98335801
Snake bite warboss too.

Painting all my shit tomorrow.
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>>98335855
Last one for tonight, tomorrow i post painted models or i get mauled by lions.

Snakebite Nob taking his squig for a walk.
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this is going to sound retarded but where do you get sand for basing from?
I know you can buy leveling sand from the store but wouldn't it be too homogeneous?
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>>98335607
Thanks! Guess I'll wait a couple more days just to be on the safer side and then varnish
I have artist oils and let them dry on a cardboard prior to painting but I guess not long enough, I have accidentally grabbed the oil layer after like 5-6 days or so to prevent the mini from falling and still got some paint on my finger
I've ordered an accelerant for my future oil endeavors
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>>98335882
Imo, the best is taking a mix of normal clean beach sand and leveling sand. About a 2 parts beach sand to 3 parts leveling sand makes a decently flat, but still textured sand. The leveling sand makes it look like "to scale sand" for the models, with the beach sand acting as interest, kinda looking like small mounds/rocks in the mix of the sand.

Hope that helps give you afew ideas.
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>>98335900
I was afraid beach sand was going to be the answer, can't really justify driving 6 hours to grab a bucketful of sand
maybe I'll just mix in some finer aquarium substrate
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>>98335893
>I've ordered an accelerant for my future oil endeavors
It's awesome, can't recommend it enough. I'm using VMS, but I'm fairly certain AK makes their own, too. With VMS, you can also get it with specific finishes (glossy, matte, etc.) which is also handy.
Anyway, if you go too early, the worst that can happen is that the varnish layer will gets glossy in a couple of months.

And finally, chemically speaking, oil paints don't "dry", they oxidize. So you can speed up the process by adding air flow, like with a hair drier (with as little heat as possible) or a fan.
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>>98335925
Oof, yeah 6 hours is no good. The alternative is using aquarium sand, or you can take really soft calk pads and grind it down to really fine chunks. And that could work close enough.
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>>98335893
>>98335882
Most of the hobby brands (AK, Vallejo, VMS, etc.) also sell pre-made terrain/diorama mixes.
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>>98335950
that's what I use currently but this would be for some terrain and I'd rather not spend $15+ dollars for tiny tubs when mixing a big batch for the same price is an option
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>>98335969
If you are going to make a bunch of terrain, I would still recommend buying the terrain pastes solely for consistency between pieces.

But for your issue of nothing wanting to drive hours for sand, have you considered coffee grounds instead? You can grind them very fine, mixing in some you dont grind as fine so its not too homegenous
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>>98335876
Started painting the wagon.
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>>98334749
yes it is and it looks great
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almost all basecoats down on armageddon captain
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>>98334631
how did you make the leather texture?
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>>98336242
this sounds pretty promising
I've been using it as fertilizer so there's a container sitting in my kitchen
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>>98335900
Should I do something with the beach sand? Do I need to put it in the oven?
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>>98336254
at this point you must be doing it on purpose
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>>98336254
Edit. The. Photo. Before. Uploading.
This fixes orientation.
How many times do you need to have it explained? Write it on a sticky note and slap that shit onto your monitor.
I'm not going to even try giving you painting advice because you'll ignore that too.
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>>98336669
you forgot to mention dont make the image too small or overly hueg because op will have a hard time with the collage
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>>98336540
A soak in alcohol or a light bake in the oven would do. As theres all sorts of bugs and crap that live in the sand, so unless you like the idea of getting sand lice because of tour basing material... sterilize it.
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>>98336621
Yes, because i enjoy it.
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>>98336540
there is a possibility that you might get silverfish or sand lice etc like anon already pointed out
its not like they will escape your container but might as well oven the stuff because why not because you only lose 10 minutes of youre life
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Frens (:
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performed surgery on a dreadnought and magtetized his arms and finished few marines

>>98336989
i like the rogueldar so far
are you going with the dazzling bright green for the weapons
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>>98336989
Nice job
>>98337098
Great colors
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>>98329079
>>98328506
>Gets criticized
>wastes 8 gallons of water to flip you off
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Got the Custodian Terminators done. I tried some different things with these guys, I don't think it worked out. But that's the whole Combat Patrol finished.
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>>98337303
>Wastes 8 Gallons of water
Is that the grift now? "Da waater! You detroyin' da uurff!!"
You're aware water doesn't just magically disappear, right? The only people that spurg about A.I are HR, Managers, and other nobodies who it will inevitably replace.
Get a bucket, janitors will be more valuable then the over saturation of desk jockeys soon.
He's at least posting about models.
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>>98337356
And here's the entire Combat Patrol
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>>98337374
Shut the fuck up.
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12 more dwarfs almost done. I think by next weekend these should be done and possibly the next batch will be at a similar stage.
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>>98337442
CRAFTSPERG
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>>98329977
What the fuck that looks cool
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>>98332678
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I've never been much of a smoker or a drinker, but I heard recently that both can give you crazy jitters if you get into the habit.
Are there any in here that can comment on that? Do these habits make it harder to paint minis in any significant way?
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>>98337935
Maybe if you're a full blown physically dependent addict who hasn't had their fix in a while, but not from basic use.
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>>98337750
He does better with crafts paints than 90% of people here with hobby ones
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>>98331951
Imagine being this proud of being a slave
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>>98330620
I say keep it. To me it looks pretty good
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>>98330844
Pretty cool. Source?
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Any ideas for a base with a lot of verticality? I want something like a church or a monastery with a classic marble floor.

Problem is, my mini has a sword pointing downwards and it's too long even with a tactical rock. I need ~7.7 mm of height. I can't do stairs without making them ridiculously thick.
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>>98337750
Dude, out of curiosity, what made you think that, based on the picture I posted?

>>98337977
I think every general has its own boogayman. Here we have craftsperg; wfg has perryfaggot, aosG has the SoonPoster.

Funnily enough it's often other people that derail the thread more than the anon they're afraid of.
In any case, pic related is the most frustrating paint I own.
I love the colour but it has the absolute shittiest coverage of anything I've ever used. And it doesn't even dilute well, turning almost immediately into a runny mess.

The stage when I use it is always the most frustrating, requiring 3, 4, or even 5 passes to obtain a barely passable result.
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put some color on marines
how should I paint the plasma cannon casing if I wanted to do red coils?
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>>98337977
>>98338039
samefagging this hard
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>>98336483
drybrushing and some stippling/smearing
Could have done it cleaner but it worked well. I gave it a wash with warpaints Red Tone after to help blend it and give it the sheen
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New thread:

>>98338141
>>98338141
>>98338141
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>>98333533
Off-white bone, grey nixed in for shadows, splashes of yellow pchre for rustyness mixed with grey, umber for brown mixed with grey for brownish dirt, probably sponged on near the bottom
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>>98330105
Its pretty simple to understand anon. It takes many hours to paint one of those models, so someone trying to make a living off them who isnt willing to take poverty wages will charge accordingly. But as a buyer, most people don't put their hobby needs at the top of their budget, so what is a fair price is just way out of reasonable for us.

Its like that for everything in life though, a plumber charges like 250 dollars an hour. At the end of the day, thats why a lot of people end up learning to do shit themselves. Paying for other peoples time is fucking expensive.



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