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Collage Anon Edition

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>Current Collage Theme
Heavy

>Previous Thread:
>>98324487

>Thread Question:
How’s your collage submission going?

>Bonus Question to gauge interest:
If a pastebin were made for /yourdudes/ and homebrews would you like to contribute?
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/mydudes/ are cooler than /yourdudes/
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>TQ
Perhaps once I conquer the depression demon and paint them all.
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I like orks :D
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>>98327722
These ladz better be getting a battleline detachment.
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Built my first Tau Broadside and what a nice kit. Simple to put together but detailed and large enough to totally hold up. The XV8's are nice but you can feel those are older kits when you have both either side of a Farsight or Shadowsun model.
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Need to do some airbrushing with a transparent color and I can either buy contrast paint or ink. Which way should I go?
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Yup, that's me. The guy who plays IG, Agents, and SoB. The three worst books in the game at the moment. I thought that if I collected three armies, there was no way they could all be bad at the same time...jokes on me...
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Warbikes are gone from the online store
Are they getting replaced too?
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NO retards allowed in this thread
Do NOT post retarded posts
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>>98327771
that's what you get for being a dirty imperiumfag
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>>98327771
Agents isn't a real army, so yeah the jokes on you.
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>>98327756
They will both work, just go with whatever color it is that you need.
Inks will probably be cheaper and more vibrant if they have the color you want.
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>>98327771
Hey Alex, are you still coming to my place in September for some games?
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>>98327778
Far too late
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Guard players, are you guys okay?
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>>98327833
Guard players reacting like this just reminds me that they're obnoxious IRL too.
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>>98327710
>If a pastebin were made for /yourdudes/ and homebrews would you like to contribute?
Possibly


>How’s your collage submission going?
what's the theme this month, I missed last months despite wanting to join
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>>98327833
to be fair, if what he’s saying is true, and they’re citing lists that you can’t play officially, then it’s completely valid to dog on them, especially when they’re charging money for their expertise.
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>>98327840
>what’s the theme
from now on it’ll be in the OP above previous thread.
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>>98327771
Everybody knows you go Imperial/Chaos/Xenos/Repeat. This is on you, buddy.
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>>98327833
If Guard is bad I'm playing Orks.
If Orks is bad I play Genestealers.
If all are bad I play orks.
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>>98327778
uhhhh…
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>>98327837
I give them a pass for shitting on e-celebs.
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>>98327833
Lmao @ the fucking entitlement. They do realize that GW is going to be making monthly balance passes for at least the next quarter, right? Acting all aggrieved over a metagame tier list that might only last 3 more weeks is beyond childish. And the title is just so cringe, you can tell these mods felt like they were writing a United Nations press release or something.
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>>98327861
Yeah, that's fair enough.
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>>98327868
but GW is going to be basing the game around the opinions of professionals like AOW. e-celebs are half the games played on BCP, which is where the stats GW is going to balance the game come from.
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>>98327868
>noooo, you can’t expect muh heckin’ e-celebs to put effort into their content. the balance patch is in 2 more weeks!
I personally don’t care about a bad tier list, but defending shitty content creators only because the people shitting on them are redditors is grim.
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WIP Ostromandeus
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>>98327891
very cool. my chino recaster has this guy and was thinking about picking him up.
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If you do bad work your business should suffer. The tier list was trash based on bad data, their customers and sponsors (and GW who just featured them) should hear about it.
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>>98327710
>TQ
>Collage
Any tips on how to paint Eldar vehicles. (Also what is an underutulised Colour scheme for DEldar?)
>Bonus
Ehh I guess But I try not to get to Sunken in the autistic writing of /mydudes/ lore. Especially when I don't have the models. I would need Models to reflect the fluff.
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>>98327888
I'm not defending AOW. Missing points values in a list you're offering your viewers is an amateur flub that should be beneath people who make their living off content. What I'm saying is that their mistake is basically inconsequential and not the hassle of getting so mad over. YouTubers fuck up. Move on without pitching a fit.
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>>98327771
I can understand guard, but agents and sisters already have so much overlap already, why didn’t you at least go for marines or something?
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>>98327852
oh nice, that's a good place for it.
>heavy
Guess i'll just keep working on my vespid, need to get them done for my current army anyways.
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>>98327916
its more than the points to be fair. most of their takes are from the PoV of Nemo who is basically the best player in the world, and only from a professional teams based event situation in nearly only guard vs guard mirrors.
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>>98327916
It takes 30 seconds to pitch a fit. People do it for fun. Stop being so precious and enjoy the pile on.
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>>98327833
people generally play humans because they want a power fantasy.
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>>98327710
>tq
Not really keen on what model I have would work as a collage submission.
I was thinking of one of those old metal cadians with the plasma or melta guns as they’re heavy weapons but not as heavy as heavy weapons team weapons and metal is heavier than plastic.
>bonus tq
Maybe I’m not sure but it might be a fun collaborative project.
I do ponder how truly screwed I would be if I upload my warhammer 40k models to social media for archival purposes like deviant art or xwit/sky.
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>>98327771
i actually hate playing my army when its OP. cheapens the victory, I don't play to win, I play to out fox my opponent. Low powered armies are the best since clearly any victory is purely on my skill as a commander.
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>>98327710
>TQ
Not sure if I'll have the time to paint an entry but if I manage I'll be doing a Kataphron servitor.
>bonus TQ
I'm not creative enough to come up with my own fluff, I mostly focus on painting since that's what I enjoy the most.
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>>98327833
Guard player here. I keep my expectations lower than a social media prankster’s dignity so I’ll be happy, surprised, and content with whatever positive thing I get.

Anyways I’m planning on getting some wga halfling snipers to be ratling proxies. I doubt they’ll be in the rules but if they are I’ll be happy if they aren’t they’re just going to be there to be shelf eye candy for myself.
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I haven't played since 9th.
I play Admech, but have about 1k points of Chaos.(2nd edition 2k army)

Is it worth getting back in for 11th edition or am I still fucked?
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>>98327977
robots are pretty solid for admech atm from what I've seen, and I think 11th is decent enough. not the best that 40k has ever been, but not the worst.
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>>98327977
11th is better than 10th but still not great
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>>98327948
This is why I hope that people calm down about the Librarians detachment.
I don't think the Librarian + Sternguard brick is this insane thing that needs to be gutted, but now I see so many lists with it.
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>>98327833
>>98327858
Guard can just switch to Traitor Guard or Genestealer Brood Brothers, what's the problem?
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>>98328017
>Traitor Guard
Anon are you from another reality where Lost and the Damned still gets support?
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>>98327922
VEPIDS
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>>98328017
>traitor guard
that still exists? what?
Did we go back in time a decade and I didn't notice?
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>>98328019
You can just play legends, or buy some CSM models like the Forgefriend and proxy your cadians as Traitor Guard and commissar and ogryns as Traitor Enforcer+Chaos Ogryn.
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>>98328027
Is a lot of it in Legends?
Does it have an army rule?
Or are you saying to play as CSM with a bunch of Legends stuff?
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>>98328024
Traitor guard will be put out soon to spite the plastic damned wargames atlantic put out.
My source is the crust around my ass so you know you can trust.
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>>98327833
>nazi larpers seething because of an e-influencer making a tier list
LOL
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>traitor guard kill team gets announced
>it's Cadians with some spikes hotglued on
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>>98328043
That would be very funny.
I hope you're right, Cassandra.
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>>98328049
don't forget greenstuff'd bandanas
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Whats your thoughts on the Tau at this point?
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>>98327791
hmm I'm not sure if pthalo blue green shade is an exact match for talassar blue, but I guess I can try it.
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>>98328064
They're strong but probably going to get reamed by points increases in the next update.
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>>98328064
I like em
I don't own em
But I like em
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>>98328055
We don't talk about michael burry in these threads
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>>98328064
I feel like Tau are trying to be too many things. Mechs, alien collective, competent modern war fighters with hover tanks and drones. Just lacks a solid core feeling imo.
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>>98328049
>>98328057
>kill team blood pact
>ELITE unit for your traitor guard subfaction
>cadians+spikes

>>98328064
needs some cadians in tau armour for gue'vesa kill team
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>>98328049
already happened
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What is the actual point of torturing people in these things, instead of just using regular pilots like paragon warsuits?
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>>98327857
I want to get a Chaos army, but I hate space marines and knights, and daemons seem very wonky.
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>>98328064
best faction in the setting after mine, nids, and orks
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>>98328087
Big Flagellant.
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>>98328087
They just exist to cause havoc before the real forces move in.
Also to torture heretics and sisters who fucked up big time.
It's a win-win
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>>98328087
the pain feeds the machine spirit and makes it fight better.
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>>98328086
They don't look that much like cadians. Blackstone fortress traitors looked better though.
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>>98328087
SoB armies are meant to be instruments of war as much as they are tools of propaganda, indoctrination and intimidation towards imperial citizens
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I dislike how Votann are all:
>We have purpose-built weapons for war
>We have jury-rigged repurposed mining equipment
>We have ancestral primitive axes
Pick a lane and stay in it, like every other faction.
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I'm going to be haunted by the fact that I forgot the subject line when I tried to make a new thread for the first time in five years.
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>>98328109
Votann are terrible and we should all just pretend they don't exist, like Games Workshop does.
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>>98328101
You're blind, nigga
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>>98328109
I mean, that makes them closer to humans than anything.
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>>98328109
those are different units, anon, it's like being mad at tau for having kroots
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>>98328118
They're not exactly the same, they're as similar as a TRAITOR guardsman should be.
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played my first game of 4th against a buddy's old Daemonhunters army
fluffed it as the imperium bureaucracy accidentally dispatching the wrong inquisitor to a Tyranid outbreak
There was a lot of posturing going on but I tried to play it as if the nids had only dealt with militia at first so they were probing the Grey Knights.
After a terminator died to a barbed strangler, I just charged in with a Carnifex but a force weapon felled it before it could swing.
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>>98328137
Termagants swarmed a dreadnought who struggled to dispatch the horde even as they uselessly claws at its plating (he failed to wound any gaunts for 3 combats) while the nearby strike squad was devoured by a hive tyrant.
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>>98327710
Put me in the college
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>>98328087
Sisters are basically Imperium Dark Eldar. The pain purifying their souls is their entire purpose.
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>>98328116
you're just jelly that you don't have sweet shades
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>>98328142
Some storm troopers started blasting away at the gaunts but were quickly pinned by two warrior broods and wiped. The tyrant similarly took down the inquisitor's retinue with a devourer before swooping down and crushing the inquisitor himself.
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>>98328129
cmon now
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are you able to attach a leader, a support and a warboss to 20 man boyz bricks in 11e?
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>>98328155
Rerouting, the terminators try to unstick the dreadnought from the quagmire of gaunts he found himself in and a few casts of HOLOCAUST quickly burn away the masses but not before the the sea of claws pulled down the last squad member, leaving only the captain alive.
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Has anyone done a Penitent Host SoB army, focusing on mortifiers and repentia? I like the idea, but I'm sensing it might actually be trash.
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>>98328157
Wowee its a man in armour
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>>98328180
they're closer than nucadians are. Not saying much but there you have it.
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>>98328187
They look more like nucadians than old cadians IMO.
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>>98328157
traitors are skinnier
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>>98328101
>>98328086
GW has all these cool traitor guard models over the last 10-15 years but then never did anything with them.

Traitor guard detachment including tanks and sentinels would be so easy.

>>98328087
REPENT NIGGA REPENT
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>>98328093
Then I guess Chaos just isn't in the stars for you. Is there no unit you love where you could start?
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>>98328150
ironic, this is the vibe all votann should have to recapture that "dwarfs but in space" feel.
>what do you mean those are just sunglasses
I can't explain, it's just a feeling.
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>>98328093
>>98328212
tide of cultists and traitors and mutants perhaps?
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>>98328093
>I want to get a Chaos army, but I hate space marines and knights, and daemons seem very wonky.
Play 1000 Tzaangors.
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Guard bros, how're you holding up?
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>>98328233
>>98328093
Ironically this is viable you can just be like
>mutalith vortex beasts
>tzaangors with guns
>shaman
>exalted tzaangors
And wallah
Because besides the leader units like exalted sorcerors, the thousand sons only have two marine datasheets (or 4 if you count vehicles like the predator) so you don't even really need them.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98328093
Fuck it, you can make a traitor guard army right now with CSM. You have most of the datasheets you need without even dipping into legends.
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>>98328192
Granted, but they're also more like old cadians than nucadians are.
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>>98328163
no
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>>98327710
>TQ
would this count for the collage ?
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>chaos androids mentioned as being a thing
>this is the only thing from blackstone that isn't 'back' besides the urkels
soon
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>>98328306
back of her model
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>>98328255
incidentally, blackstone having 4 urkels made sense at the time when you could take four of these guys in a Court
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>>98328307
That's a friendly loyalist. You can tell by the aquila.
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>>98328307
Never happening.
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>>98328307
anon
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>>98328307
They also don't sell the crusader on his own, I believe. Would grab him and the robot if I could.
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>>98327833

Im doing fine. I was playing non-meta anyone so very little of what I have got hit with the nerf, and I didnt run more than 1-2 of any datasheet so points having step-up didnt hurt me.

Current plan is to build some artillery since I think guard artillery is way overlooked with the indirect "nerf".


Heavy mortars are 95 points and can can still be pretty efficient at killing MEQ's while also screening out my backfield/holding my home objective.

>inb4 they need orders support.

Not a problem. It used to be that Guants ghosts rarely gave out orders because I had them teleporting around the backfield doing objective shit away from the rest of my army.

But now with the new recon troops, I juat drop a radio beacon by my artillery and have the ghosts give them orders.
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>>98328307
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Is it the case that any given Waaagh will have all of the ork clans in it? Or do waaaghs just have one clan, like "This is a Blood Axe waaagh, we're gonna go kill some humans, Bad Moons can go fuck themselves?"
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>>98328321
Luv me robutz
Luv me ancestors
Luv me core
Simple as.
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Who the fuck cares what "competitive" players think anyway?
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>>98328306
>>98328308
she looks like what I pick from my nose. delicious.
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>>98328336
the clans emerge naturally from ork psychology right? I think a large enough waaagh would have participation from all of them in their relevant specialties
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>>98328336
It's rare to see depictions of waaaghs with a single clan, waaaghs are pretty big ordeals so they attract all sorts of warbands under the magnetic influence of whichever warboss launched it
but it is possible for the warboss' own warband to be large enough to be enough for a waaagh, just unlikely to stay so for long
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>>98328347
How could they emerge naturally from Ork psychology when one of them is explicitly a response to fighting humans? Although you'd think there would also be a wannabe Eldar clan at this point as well.
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>collage theme is Heavy
I wonder if I can participate with an Achilles Ridgerunner, got a 2nd one that's primed & magnetized but I've yet to paint anything. It's the only thing left to paint aside from 5 Jackals.
Also GSC finally got its army rule errata'd. I already played two games with it as is but amazing how GW play testers can miss something as fundamental as an army rule of an entire faction.
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>>98328365
it just works
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>>98328341

Some of the most fun is beating a comp player with a meme list because they have no idea how to fight a list it (they only studied that placed top in recent event).
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>>98328306
>>98328308
very uhhh... abstract I guess?
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>>98328321
>>98328339
Dark Mech is mentioned as using ancient and forbidden things that were sealed, Votann stuff is just stc patterns.
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>>98328401
stc patterns can be ancient and forbidden, such as coming from the daot and involving AI
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>>98328409
This. Phosphex had an STC that some loser destroyed because he felt it was too scary. Then got executed via phosphex.
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>>98328409
>be DAoT engineer
>create a new smart watch that has a small AI that can help you organize your schedule
>fast forward 15,000-20,000 years
>look down from heaven to see what's going on, only to see your descendants are calling a glorified Clippy a fucking demon
>tfw
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>>98328376
themes for the collage are usually pretty subjective. if its "heavy" for your army then I think it would be fine.
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>>98328429
Yea sure but then clippy gets corrupted by the warp and takes over the network to blow up the ship's weapons and laugh while his daemon friends eat the crew's faces.
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What is the actual connection between the Ecclestiary and the Sisters? I know Sisters are their army, but like, is any given order just waiting for instructions from the Inquisition to start purging stuff, are they operating on their own and then occasionally interact with the Inquisition and they only kind of are subordinate, or what?
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>>98328440
>Yea sure but then clippy gets corrupted by the warp
That never happens.
>but vashtorr
Nulore mary sue faggot. That's lore rape on par with female custodes, aka not canon and never will be canon.
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>>98328426
>dark mech phosphex daemons
>phosphex except it's literally living fire because a daemon possessed it
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>>98328376
>>98328433
Do we have the collage so far, or is it only revealed when it's complete?
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>>98328429
I'm already calling glorified clippies demonic right now
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>>98328444
>in reality it's just a distortion cannon combined with a phosphex flamer
>the distortion cannon opens a warp rift and summons a daemon
>the phosphex flamer lights it on fire
>the daemon panics from being on fire and runs around
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>>98328409
Okay but the thing is Votann stuff is new, Darkmech stuff is like "we found these robots in the underbelly of mars and then we put daemons in them and now they're men of iron but also daemons- I call it 'daemonbot'"
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>>98328433
It's a light vehicle with T7 so I doubt it fits the theme, but can be equipped with a "Heavy" Mining Laser. I just need an excuse to paint it, I haven't been painting anything in months. Just did that Benefictus kitbash to enable 20 neophytes that I painted earlier this year. I can now run 70 neophytes with a Primus, Iconward & Benefictus, though fielding that many models is really a hassle.
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>>98328450
They are just retarded parrots who trawl through given information and regurgitates it to you. They are arguably shittier and stupider than fucking Clippy from 30 years ago.
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>>98328454
that's funnier but too creative for gw.
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>>98328365
blood axe psychology is based on intelligence, which results in accepting new concepts, and using them to your advantage, and also patience which allows them to use drawn out battle plans that have a big pay off and sneaking around, when running and yelling WAAAGH would get them in a fight much faster. The reason they like to dress as humans is just because they’re so common and varied that it allows them to have far more experience in how humans operate. if a blood axe were raised in tau space, they would no doubt be using drones, and hiring on “xenos” mercenaries to bolster his warband.
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>>98328443
>nulore
First and Only - Dan Abnett, 1999
STC corrupted by Chaos to produce Chaos aligned Men of Iron.
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>>98328460
>retarded parrots who trawl through given information and regurgitates it to you
exactly, demons
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>>98328463
>Dan Abnett slop
Not canon.
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>>98328479
>goal post moving
I accept your concession. Have a good day.
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>>98328441
I'm pretty sure the orders are like the Space Marine chapters if they actually had a chain of command and not just a charter. At least that's what I figure seeing how often they do random shit because it makes sense to them. But the galaxy is big and there's no way for any central authority to coordinate an army across the whole thing, so...
The Order of the Emperor's Golden Codpiece, whose abbey is right outside the Ecclesiarchy's main office, probably doesn't get to take a shit without a high priest's permission. The Order of the Thing We Found In My Backyard, whose abbey is on a planet that was discovered in M40, has to alert the Ecclesiarchy before they do something that gets them all killed so they can be removed from the roster, but they aren't expected to wait for a response.
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>>98328489
Still not canon.
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>TQ
>Looks at theme
>"Heavy"
But we already did big guns and big sticks recently. Can 40kg stop being into gigantism for once?
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>>98328441
It's complicated and also secret and hasn't really been elaborated on
I need to find the sources and its 11pm and im going to bed so im not going to do that, but the inquisition and the 6 sisters who met the emperor had a meeting in secret and made a deal and theres never really been any explanation of what it was
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>>98328516
sorry dude, I need BIGGER!
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>>98327833
I love the suck.
t. Guardfag
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>>98328017
>Traitor Guard or Genestealer Brood Brothers
I do love me some genestealers. Looking at it now 30x Purestrains with a Patriarch and 30x Atalan Jackals is 1000pts dead on. The mining aesthetic even works for a Krieg guard army. My boys just dug a trench too deep woke up some nasties and now they're all turning purple.
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>finally come up with a scheme for /myguys/
>someone else already did it
it's tiresome
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>>98328636
I have 10 Genestealers and want to get 10 more but them being monopose is killing it. The only thing you can change is the Ymgarl tentacle heads. Having 2x5 Purestrains is so viable that it's insane value.
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>>98328652
what’s the color scheme?
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>Genestealer cults sometimes not dying after victory is lore that was added later
I'll never understand why this wasn't in from the factions inception.
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>>98328668
Red and black
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>>98328677
Not dying how? Tyranids failing to arrive? Random Cultists surviving to take their purestrain babies away to start the cycle anew?
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>>98328683
bruh
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>>98328677
How does that work? The hive ship just so happens to think the rockgrinders hazard stripes are too sweet to mush down into tyranagoo?
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>>98328702
it was actually black and red
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>>98328707
Daring today, aren't we?
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>>98328652
there's only so many good combinations of colors anon.
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>>98328697
>>98328705
No the lore blurb of formerly Imperial ships being seen beta orbiting Hive Ships without hostility
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>>98328054
Why does this get posted in every thread?
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>>98328719
That's just the intergalactic version of this.
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>>98328652
>>98328683
if you care about uniqueness, primary colors are a complete no go, and so is green because of military stuff
you need to go
>purple with armies that aren’t “fancy” or “royal” like orks, imperial guard, and death guard
>brown with armies that are “fancy” and “royal” like thousand sons, necrons and adepta soritas
>orange is free real estate because no one except a votann subfaction uses it lol.
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>>98328652
Go green and purple
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Le ecks dee XD I like orks :DDD XD ECKS DEEEEEE
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>>98328726
No they are friends like the old petco logo
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>>98328736
exactly, ain’t no one fucking with the piccolo scheme.
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>>98328753
Americanized game, bitch.
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I like gene stealer cults too much to like orks
But fuck me gsc are too hard to paint
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>>98328777
Depends if you just ignore all of the details like me
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>>98328777
that’s all well and good.
however, maybe consider that maybe gork and mork are one four armed being…
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>>98328777
>I like gene stealer cults too much to like orks

I don't follow.
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>>98328777
You can do it
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>>98328828
they look a little sunburned
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>>98328831
Gamecolor Tan for skin, lighter skintones are a bitch to work with + too many heads to paint. They got tanned working in the mines.
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>>98328668
Orange and teal
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are they worth the upgrade for my boy? or is he better off on his own
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12th edition when?
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>>98328962
2 weeks
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>i like the models I like and don't care about waacing
>wtf my army sucks after not caring about making a strong army AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Why are guard players like this?
>muh internal balance
Has never existed, will never exist.
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another update on Ostromandeus
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>>98328981
incorrect. the dumbfucks are only looking at guard from the perspective of top teams players, which has VERY little in common with normal 40k.
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>>98327710
>yourdudes
>Basilisk: Nod Artillery
>Storm Chimera(Autocannon): Nod Light Tank(Bradley Fighting Vehicle) <<1995 Nod CGI cutscenes made the light tank the badley fighting vehicle for both tank and transport
>Hydra Flak: Nod Light Tank (alternate)
>Salamander Scout Vehicle (lighter tank alternate)
>Hellhound: Nod Flame Tank(Armored Fuel Transport)
>Tauros Venator: Nod Buggy
>Tauros Assault: Nod Recon Bike
>Manticore: Nod SSM Launcher
>Deathstrike: Nod Mobile Nuke(SCUD)
>Tarantula Turrets: Nod Turret
>Immobile Manticore: SAM Site
>Cadian Troops: Original (1995 era) Troops
>Catachan Troops: Red (Middle era) Troops
>Kreig Troops: Black (Late era) Troops
>Aquila Lander: Nod Chinook
>Unknown: The F22 Raptor in one cutscene
>Long Las: Commando
>Grenade Launcher: Missile Trooper
>Lasgun: Minigunner(Original name, lul)
>Flamer: Flamethrower
>Everyone has grenades like IRL, idk why "GDI had a grenadier"

Troops would be storm troopers from Mantic Games IIRC. Vehicles would be 3D printed. I'm just a pussy to start the project. I only recognize 1995 C&C, because both sides killed villages in the campaign just like IRL Nato+USA/Enemies (recent event topics belong in >>>/pol/ )
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I feel like a goofy goober for wanting to get into 40k now with Guard considering the nerfs, but should I just not give a fuck?
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>>98328981
>Guard players have units that are like a lot of other codexes elite units
>Guard players refuse to use these units like the other armies use their similar units
>Somehow it's because guard players think they're special and give them "Roles" like they're roleplaying an actual commander
<<<Many such cases
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>>98329006
nowhere to go but up! seriously though its one of the biggest factions with the most support and there is no way it will stay as bad as it currently is.
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>selling individual guys on ebay
>just take a pic of the box and list it
>it's one that shows the quantity and listed as singles anyway
>some guy sends me a butthurt message complaining that I took a picture of the whole box of guys
???? I literally put all the information you need to make a decision about buying one thing. Do people not have the ability to read and just click on pics before they realize what they're looking at. Stupid cunt.
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>>98329012
Well that's good to know, thanks :D
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>>98329014
Probably a jeet trying to scam ebay money out of you.
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>>98329014
What??? :skullemoji::skullemoji::skullemoji:
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>don't want to spend 240 bucks on an armagay box or whatever
>what if I buy landspeeder separate
>60 bucks
It is literally easier for me to buy the entire armagay box, keep the landspeeder and sell EVERYTHING separately to make back the money than it is to buy a single landspeeder.
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>>98329011
>i wanna play the underdog faction
>but i only want to play the underdog factions if its top tier


You dont deserve to play with guardsmen
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>>98329028
meant for
>>98329006
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>>98329024
The prices people are trying to sell individual units from the box for are ridiculous. I was thinking of picking up one or two models just to paint but for those prices lol no.
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>>98329006
Learn how to magnetize your vehicles options. You'll buy fewer vehicles this way.

Vanquishers and Demolishers can wipe out twice the number of vehicles similar stuff costs. A vanquisher can almost 1hit a land raider or two hit a defiler.

Infantry spam for guard is still superior than most mobbing armies out there. Only because you can pack 18 10-man battleline units which is the meta size right now. Blast gets fucked off and your units die so fast in melee the enemy gets caught out afterwards to be rapid fired on.

Your best melee unit is never good enough. A similar cost shooting unit will do better. You're better of getting Agents of the Imperium deathwatch marines instead for melee deterrent. (They're undercosted for the role!)
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>>98329014
Add text to the image.
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>>98329006
This is the best time to buy a value box with vehicles unless they release another one next year.

But also do you really need a value box? Just get some tonka trucks and shit on the floor of the lgs if they deny your right to have little green army men proxied as cadians.
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>>98329043
That makes it findable. He wants to remain anonymous.
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>>98329030
>>98329028
I never said I would only play them if they were top tier (something you'd know if you have a reading comprehension above a 5th grade level). But sure, I should've mentioned they'd be my first army and that losing all the time would get frustrating, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt!
>>98329038
>Learn how to magnetize your vehicles options. You'll buy fewer vehicles this way.
Makes sense, I was just gonna buy 3 of every russ variant I'd ever want cuz I like the idea of owning a billion russes
>Vanquishers and Demolishers can wipe out twice the number of vehicles similar stuff costs. A vanquisher can almost 1hit a land raider or two hit a defiler.
The Vanq is my favorite variant of the russ, so this is good news
>which is the meta size right now
Wouldn't 20 man krieger squads be best? Since they can bring back dead guys?
>Your best melee unit is never good enough
Damn here I was thinking that 6 bullgryns would be an amazing idea lol
>>98329064
>This is the best time to buy a value box with vehicles unless they release another one next year.
Like the platoon battleforce they're currently selling? Or the armageddon battallion? Cheapest I've found the latter for was nearly 360
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>>98328168
And how good are Arco-flagellants?
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If anyone with models wants to join the /40kg/ server here's the discord link. We have a bunch of veteran painters willing to help anyone just starting out in 12th!

It's almost at 60 members and has being going on for about 7ish months! Here's the link:

https://discord.gg/NkpCn7SZm
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>>98329081
>Cheapest I've found the latter for was nearly 360
kek scalpers
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>>98329099
Yeah it might be #joever
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>>98329098
What's with the lazy falseflag lmao
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>>98329098
what's happening here
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>>98329104
see >>98329103
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>>98329098
>You know what, might as well check it out, how bad could it b-
>Hunny Bunny Princess has invited you to join
nvm
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>>98329081
>Like the platoon battleforce they're currently selling? Or the armageddon battallion? Cheapest I've found the latter for was nearly 360
NTA but what country do you live in? If you are in the US, Warpfire Minis has the Platoon box set for 15% off MSRP. There was a great box with 2 rogal dorn tanks in it a year or two ago but I think you're out of luck finding that for a reasonable price.
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>>98329117
>If you are in the US, Warpfire Minis has the Platoon box set for 15% off MSRP.
Ayyye thanks!
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>>98329131
No sweat man. Keep in mind, it's a preorder so they are at the mercy of GW's stocking decisions. Warpfire is good for secondhand minis too. You'll often see NIB/NOS stuff show up there for even better discounts if it came from someone else, as well as painted minis if you don't mind stripping them. I have more minis than I'll ever paint but I still check them once in a while because sometimes some cool oddities show up in their secondhand listings.
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>>98329103
idk what about having a 40kg server is a false flag ?

>>98329104
i need to readjust the invite banner...its kinda hard on mobile

>>98329112
ur the one missing out my friend, it's a cool server with most of the thread regulars....
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>>98329173
What would a necron even be doing/want/how did he get to Earth?
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>>98329173
>fake user count
>faggot behavior
>samefagging with a banner not present anywhere in the server
>samefagging again inventing a fake user who created the invite
>samefagging yet AGAIN with this post
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>>98329181
trazyn the infinite steals shit and puts it in his stasis museum
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>>98329181
Trazyn goes where he pleases and pinches what he squeezes.
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>>98329159
>>98329131
shockingly cheap (relative to warhammer being overpriced) compared to all the cunt sc*lpers and what they're trying to sell it for.
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>>98327710
>TQ
Yes, I've seen so many one off /mydudes/ posts around that it's sad not being able to go back and read them in a catalogued way.
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I sometimes see people claim that IG tanks, despite looking like shit, are technologically superior to anything on modern Earth, and are actually super armored and speedy and have amazing controls by comparison. Is there anything to actually back this up? Because they sure look like shitty WWII garbage.
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>>98329219
They're comparing the ig tanks to Russian and Swedish tanks.
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>>98329219
they are slow and derpy but make up for it with fancy magic armor materials and weapons
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>>98328736
Unironically, dark green and deep purple have great color harmony while still producing thematic contrast (tactical and utilitarian vs showy and ornate). Did my SoB that way, the fact their armor has purple robes but their guns are green is so fitting for who they're supposed to be.
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>>98329219
>technologically superior

the hull lascannon would easily kill pretty much any modern MBT for what thats worth.
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I just cooked up a really cool kitbash, but YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
You'll have to wait for the collage to have an appropriate theme
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>>98329255
what theme
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>>98329219
/k/ had a thread about how warhammer tanks have shittier armour than an abrams but can survive and shrug off mortars and their explanation was that it was nerds in the 80s using reference books instead of military experts.
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I don't mind my faction having below 50% win rate, in fact I like not playing the good factions, but sob showed a 35% for this first round of events. That's a bit much. Maybe we can meet in the middle in the mid 40's or so? I don't mind being the underdog, but let's be reasonable. Perhaps just some light points buffs, or something minor like slightly buffing some of the detachments or something.

I think most of the people complaining about balance issues don't necessarily expect some magical christmasland where every book is perfectly 50% win rate, there's always going to be leaders and always going to be a few that lag behind, but a few factions are getting crushed at the moment. A few factions are significantly behind the rest, not just a little bit behind. The game is very unbalanced at the moment. It' ok to complain if there's a valid reason.
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>>98329260
whatever is close 'nuff
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>>98329271
yeah… no. I don’t trust you.
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why do imperials keep telling xenos to cum?
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Just read through the Fourth Tyrannic War lore.
Hive Fleet Leviathan's latest and largest push into the galaxy is comprised of three tendrils, converging toward the Basitor subsector as they push toward Terra.
Each of the three tendrils is made up of millions of bioships, and their spread covers light-years. MILLIONS!

This means the ships of Imperial fleets fighting against this Tyranid invasion would be outnumbered by hundreds of thousands of bioships of all sizes and forms. Many bioship types are capable of vomiting Tyranid swarms to overrun planets.
How can Leviathan be realistically stopped if its numbers are this fuckhuge?
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>>98329006
By the time you've finished making your army, who knows what the balance could be. Shouldn't plan around that
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I tried to buy something from that shifty site I mentioned yesterday, I used a $20 prepaid debit card like an anon suggested and didn't use my IRL contact info, but after checkout it "declined" the card, lol. I'll check and see if the card still has a balance on it tomorrow.
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>>98329297
Fair enough, thanks
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>>98329293
Simple, if the plot demands they be stopped, they will.
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Besides new models, what do you think it would take to improve the popularity of relatively niche factions like AdMech, GSC, DE, GK, and Sisters? Is it more rules, lore, or price that keeps people from collecting them?
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>>98329293
You fail to consider that the hive mind is fucking retarded sometimes and has been known to waste massive resources to invade empty desert planets out of spite.
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Are Imperial forces as willing to strike temporary alliances with Necrons as they are Eldar and Tau?
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>>98329351
Yes but the question is whether or not the Necrons are going to strike an alliance with the cockroaches that the humans are to them.
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>>98329098
why even use this anymore? the appeal of it was to the escape the mutant, but now he’s been arrested for CP charges this discord is completely obsolete.
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>>98329336
in my game/group server that one is just called 'politics'
>>98329351
depends on the situation - it'd have to be pretty bad for the necrons to even consider that and now just burn the humans out first so they're fighting a weaker foe.
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>>98327771
>Yup, that's me. The guy who plays IG, Agents, and SoB
wtf, are you me anon?
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>>98329365
>in my game/group server that one is just called 'politics'
Kek
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>>98329336
most of the time its just another off-topic channel lmao. today it was:
>some people play the game like assholes
>into rules talk etc

>>98329365
some of the /40kg/ chuds do use it to rant about minorities
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>>98329098
>just starting out in 12th!
any of you who got punked should have seen this and known better
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I want my jungle fighting regiment to be named something fun and thematic. Leaning towards [something something] Vipers since snakes can be painted with detail on banners and more simply on vehicles. But maybe like Cyber Vipers or Fire Vipers or something to make it less generic.

Or I just ditch that idea and call the regiment something else. What says 40kg on a decent donut steel jungle fighting regiment?
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>>98329386
Mud Vipers
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>>98329386
Nigsteel Vipers
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>>98329386
Brush Walkers
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>>98329386
Viper Battalion Alpha-20
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>>98329333
Admech, Sisters, and GSC are too hard to paint. GK hasn't had an update in forever and look tiny compared to modern marines. DE also need to just have their entire line refreshed. Dunno what to do for Black Templars. Knights are Knights. Imperial Agents isn't a real army. Dunno what to do for Deathwatch.
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>>98329333
Skitarii rangers/vangard are hard to paint. They need to be elite so you don't need too many of them, they shouldn't be a mass filler trash unit.
The original release model range was fairly good but a bit small.
The one significant update admech got had a much worse art style and mainly unappealing minis.
Any bone admech has got since has mostly sucked.

Needs more robots, too few automata.
I'm not sure they've ever really had rules that are actually that fun to play either their codexes are far more tame than they should be. (In terms of being interesting, not balance.)
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>>98329293
bioships means everything the tyranids have that's space-faring, including their bio-torpedos and bio-boats and bio-dinghies. Tyranids are very hard to stop in fleet actions, but a much more realistic chance of winning than in a ground defense without navel superiority.
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>>98329333
Admech, GSC and Sisters have the unholy combo of being high model count, expensive (money wise), and hard to paint which means only people that absolutely love them will try to play them
Grey knights and Deldar just need some new models, they were pretty popular back when they were new and competitive
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>>98329333
As a more new sisters player I'd buy more models if the prices weren't so high
The current combat patrol box also is a little worse than the previous one
I love their theme and lore though, and it's the only reason why I bought em
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Life on chaos controlled worlds, chaos socities should be explored more.
Pic of a chaos controlled stone mine
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>>98329386
Veronika's Vipers
Greenhell Vipers, as in from a planet/region called Greenhell
Dusk Vipers
Jackfang Vipers
Viper Company, 5th [yourdudes] Regiment. Could use both snakes and the letter V as a motif, or have some kind of correlation between the V for Vipers and the roman numeral for 5.
Viper Strike Unit
Or get a little nonsensical with it like the Roaring Vipers
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>>98329386
Vic's Vipers
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When choosing a new army, do you purposefully try to choose something with a different playstyle? Do you go out of your way to choose different coloration?
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marine variants are not real armies
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When making Tau /yourguys/, are they just supposed to be a miscellaneous army in the greater Tau Empire? Like, space marines and Sisters and IG all have different groups within the whole that have totally different goals and methods and paint schemes, but Tau seem way more unified outside of Farsight.
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>>98328143
Nice.
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>>98329452
All of them are just variations of "being worked to death is the best thing you can hope for." It would just be pages and pages of "Here is Tzeentch worshippers fuck your soul in the ass."
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>>98329479
If I recall correctly septs have a decent amount of diversity between them, but we're talking SoB Orders/ Craftworld levels of diversity
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>>98329479
the fact that farsight enclaves exist basically gives you carte blanche to make up your own offshoot or isolated tau faction that can have whatever weird traits you want
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>>98329386
Khaki Vipers

>>98329414
I don't know what metric this is, but since it puts Custodes and Votann above Sororitas, I'm scared to find out.

>>98329450
It's a pain in the ass that Paragons are a must-take but also look like shit. That said, Sisters aren't actually that expensive as far as prices go when compared to other armies, I'm sure someone could whip up a spreadsheet comparing 11e points costs to msrp to say who's really the cheapest, but Sisters are generally 1:1.75 or 1:2 dollars-to-points, which is on the nicer end of 40k armies. Space Marines are all over the place, Tau are more like 1:1.5, and Necrons have some truly incredible pricing per-points, like flayed ones being LESS than 1:1 (their average is doubtless fucked up by C'Tan shards all being 1:2.5 or better... the Deceiver is like 1:6).
SoB just feel expensive because they're all light infantry or light vehicles, so even though retributors and battle sisters are both $65 for 100 points or more, you feel like you're getting ripped off after buying the same characters but one comes in a set of half as many because their guns are bigger.
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>>98329503
Number of games logged into the official app per army in 2025.
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>>98329363
>but now he’s been arrested for CP charges
QRD?
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>>98329504
>Necrons are the second most popular army by nearly 6k games
>SoB below Custodes and Votann
>Orks below Tau
>Dark Angels most popular Space Marines subfaction
>People actually did AT LEAST 600 games of Imperial Agents
I think it's fair to say I don't understand people who play this game

>>98329511
Guessing he was watching CP
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>>98329530
I'm at least 28 of the Agents games alone myself.
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>>98329482
>All of them are just variations of "being worked to death is the best thing you can hope for."
That's the imperium as well though. And there's whole stable chaos cilivsations that become small interstellar empires that send professinal armies to wage war on the Imperium. Like how the norscans were a stable soceity despite being chaos worshipping in fantasy
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>>98328256
NTA, but is it just 3 Traitor squads, Enforcers, and some tanks?
What other Traitor units exist outside of Legends?
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>>98329450
The current sisters combat patrol is better than the old one in every way except grams of plastic per dollar. What's actually in the box is much more useful.
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>>98329551
>Getting Arco-Flagellants, a unit no one wants or uses, instead of the Castigator, a unit that is sometimes used
Nah
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>>98329511
I fear anon may be lying on the internet again. If the mutant got picked up for being a pedo, I'm not sure who here would even be aware of it.
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I have a question why are guard players so angry right now?

They had their cavalry and ogryn buffed, good detachments to roleplay and somehow are so up their pants that they can't bring the same list over and over.

I don't get it, had to deal with 4 people that played different army compositions all upset they didn't buff their particular favorite unit each, to be frank their complaining felt extremely childish this time around.

Has this happened to anyone else? Seriously the only happy guy was the krieg kid with a bunch of horses some infantry and 2 heavy teams just having fun like a normal person.
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Someone explain to me why Black Templars get so many Nazis. I know why IG does, its shit looks like WWII.
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>>98329596
because neo-nazis fetishize the crusades
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Would you play dark wolves?

>>98329596
Deus vult crusader larp. Awoos get their fair share too, thanks to the nordic symbolism/vikang larp.
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>>98329511
He pirated cyberpunk 2077, bragged about it, and got pinched for it. It's not actually CSEM related.
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>>98329596
historically the "black templars" were the teutonic order aka proto-prussians aka proto-nazis
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>>98329503
>SoB just feel expensive because they're all light infantry or light vehicles
Hit the nail on the head there anon
Also they look like they're heading downhill this edition, but that's how it goes I suppose?
>>98329551
The upside is they arent monoposed like in the last box, but I feel like a rhino helps more than 5 sacs or arco-fags
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>>98328118
Not a single element on their gear looks Cadian you retard. Even if we ignore all the spikes, chainmail, and pelts:

Different helmets
Different chest armor
different leg armor
different gloves
different rifle pattern
different flamer
different laspistols
different shoulder armor
different gas mask style

They are not cadian at all.
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Has anyone played a Combat Patrol game in 11th? Buddy of mine is nearly done assembling a DA CP and I'd like to run a game, but I can't find any info bar the meager shit on the app. At this point I'm gonna just use the current core rules and the 10th edition missions/stat lines/secondaries.
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>>98329479
I started a Tau army, gonna be a Farsight deal but with a paint scheme for each system in the Enclaves bc I get bored with just doing one.
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How bad of an idea is it to base my CSM army on 2 land raiders each carrying a Terminator squad with a character, with 20 legionaries and some Havocs/Raiders/Chosen backing them up?
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What are crimes that get a Sister knocked down to Repentia?
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>>98329687
depends on how competive your friends are
but even if you lose you'll be losing in style
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>>98327872
This. Tau got left in the doghouse for a big chunk of 9th edition pre-codex because Siegler kept winning with Forgeworld drone bullshit.
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>>98328725
Because baerats are the second most retarded holo fanbase after chumbuds.
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>>98328736
That's the tau army I painted back in 3rd edition. Can't post any pics of my old models without getting "thanks doc".
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>>98329596
The Teutonic Order was used as propaganda art by the Prussians and then the Nazis for invading Poland. The entire justification for lebensraum was land ceded to the Teutons during a war in the 13th century.

There's many knightly orders associated with the Crusades, but Teutons specifically are associated with German nationalism.
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>>98329024
The landspeeder is going to be in all of the starter sets aside from the Introductory Set. So price should go down.
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>>98329758
Thats true, and lets not forget the Freikorps who also heavily used the teutonic knights as inspiration and justification. But 19th/20th century german nationalism is completely meaningless to modern right wing people outside of germany.
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I'm finishing up putting the basecoat on my thousand sons and boy it feels good to go all in on a new faction while my old go-to faction is mired in ruling bullshit and point nerfs
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>>98329530
Necrons were the enemy starter box army in 9th edition and are dirt simple to paint.
SoB are hard to paint and have had a bad go of it ever since their one good detachment got nerfed, so people aren't bringing them to competitive tournaments.
Tau were busted due to Twin Lance so a lot of WaaCfags hopped on the army.
A lot of "Dark Angels" players were regular space marines players declaring Dark Angels as a subfaction to get access to a couple detachments or add The Lion to their army.
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>>98329530
>>98329779
isn't it also because necrons are conssitently broken and op and GW doesn't seem to care you can literally bring 5 C'tan to a battle (and even encourages it for some reason with the pantheon of woe detachment)?
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>>98329758
Tru. Regardless of political association, it is a cool aesthetic
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Are xenos worth it this edition? Not interested in Nids/CSG, though. I do wonder why.
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>>98329704
Becoming a repentia is "voluntary". Becoming a mortifier is when they're convicted of crimes.
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>>98329780
That too.
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>>98327833
>they sell coaching
Holy shit! Every time I think I've the dumbest shit in the /tg/ sphere, 40gay proves me wrong (building and painting not withstanding).
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>>98329602
the warband of traitors who fought with horus and then disappeared into the eye only to emerge to raid space wolf outposts or the other warband of traitors?
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I sincerely hope that 3rd edition of Kill Team doesn't end with another "one team vs NPOs" box set. I want a vs box with terrain that uses interesting new terrain rules, maybe hazards or a hybrid enclosed/open layout
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>>98327833
Go back
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>>98329734
Go back to your containment board.
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>>98327833
Not a guardfag, but while they're being fucking babies (as usual honestly - guard and tau players are two sides of the same retarded coin in terms of insufferable faggotry), they're right in that they absolutely got fucked with the new edition and probably shouldn't be considered A tier on any listing just from one guy who happened to do well with them in one event. A teams event where the guy was specifically matched mostly into other guard players for an easier win, by the way. That being said this is one of those things where I wish both sides could lose.
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>>98329780
Yeah, Necrons have been either good or broken for the entirety of 10th and will probably stay that way into 11th unless GW either hard nerfs C'tan into the dirt or puts a limit on how many they can take in a list.
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>>98329632
imagine the lightness when they finally get Frateris Militia back
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>>98327833
Just a few months they had a chimpout about steel legion to the point GW actually responded and now this collective meltdown about some contentslop tierlist?
What the fuck is it with guardfags in particular?
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>>98327833
27% win rate says no
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>>98329530
I like robots :)
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>>98329859
The steel legion meltdown was justified because yarrick without steel legion is like warhammer 40k without Xenos and chaos.
And quite frankly I think the art of war deserves to get shat on by normies because they’re just grifting the tournament scene. I’m just surprised it took so long.
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>>98329602
>dark wolves
If I did I'd make a small dark wolves force and a small 13th cie force
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>>98329943
yarrick is a commissar, commissars don't belong to a regiment, they get temporarily attached to them, and he had already worked with other regiments and was already disentangled from the steel legion by the time we had to see him again

the steel legion was absolutely not justified, the 2 faggots who like the steel legion should just paint krieg khaki and be done with the whining
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>>98329966
nta but you're really gonna make your hate for guards everyone's problem, aren't you?
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>>98329943
>>98329966
>yarrick
How about Armageddon without Armageddon Steel Legion? Like making a campaign and box set about Mars and not including anything Admech related.
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>>98329984
>How about Armageddon without Armageddon Steel Legion?
You can have your Armageddon Steel Legion by painting krieg models in a different scheme.
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>>98329990
They were so based for this.
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>>98329990
This made guardfags unironically seethe because SL have slightly rounder helmets and slightly shorter coats and shit.
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>>98329990
>NOOOOO THE STILL LEGION IS DIFFERENT!
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>>98329943
>art of war deserves to get shat on by normies because they’re just grifting the tournament scene.
They actually get results is the thing and GW seems to listen to them.
I unironically blame them for eldar getting nerfed to the ground despite being within GW's own stated accepted winrate of 55-45. Lennon got shat on in GW's world championship thing last year by who is probably the best player in the world right now, and was constantly ragging on how eldar are uninteractive, bad for the game and shit.
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First time building an army since 8th edition and I have no idea what I'm doing
What's good for sisters?
I have everything but the nundams
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>>98329859
>What the fuck is it with guardfags in particular?
They have an inferiority complex they mask with a superiority complex.
>actually I'm better than you because I play the normal human army in this space fantasy game
>actually my army should be better because realistically this tactic is the one that would win battles (the tactic is standing in the deployment zone's parking lot of artillery)
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>>98330022
Sacresants on the side of models you might actually like and Nundams led by Vahl if you actually want to kill anything big. Castigators and Immolators too.
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>>98329990
Kek, I remember that.
It's even funnier when I posted an image like this, before GW made that guide, people got really, really butthurt over it.
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>>98329530
Necrons were 9E starter.
Nids were 10E starter.
8E was Death Guard.

IG have never been in a starter. We are the real 2nd Faction.
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>>98330033
By that logic marines aren't the first faction because their popularity is artificially inflated by being in every starter set ever.
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>>98329511
He was active on reddit one week ago so I doubt that.
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>>98329363
Its become fairly comfy now that spergouts of the femcel admin are mostly contained in off topic channels. A good chunk of modelposters is there and its pretty much free of shitposting.
Real talk though what the fuck happened to the mutant? With how obsessed he was about this place theres no way he just decided to leave overnight and even a rangeban wouldn't help since he was clearly using vpns to evade
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>>98330003
What army would Chris Chan play if he got into 40k? And what would his homebrew be?
I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten into 40k yet given that autism is a big thing for 40k.
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>>98330037
GUARD IS NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!
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>>98330044
>What army would Chris Chan play if he got into 40k?
Obviously Space Wolves. How is this even a question.
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>>98329984
Fair enough that’s pretty good. I’m tired this morning.
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Do we have a road map for 11e codex releases?
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>>98330044
Some flavor of homebrew marines, probably with Sonichu or Magichan as their heraldry.
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>>98329943
>And quite frankly I think the art of war deserves to get shat on by normies because they’re just grifting the tournament scene
Every competitive youtube channel is, in all fairness. Doesn't make AOW any better but they're just one of a few dozen groups all doing the same thing.
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>kill team is so dead even the general wont stay up anymore
Damn
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>>98330096
How is KT these days? I feel like there was tons of hype around it again last year and it just kind of disappeared. Are Exodites not getting people interested in it again?
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>>98330096
why isn't it /gsg/ with all the other totally-not-dead gw spinoffs
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>>98329793
They can't make new KT terrain as the chinese sweatshop is busy painting the 40k sets.
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>Space Marines vs Orks
>Space Marines vs Tyranids
>Space Marines vs Necrons
We need to go back to Space Marines vs Chaos, the conflict that's always been at the heart of Warhammer 40,000.
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>>98330102
That's also dead.
>>98330099
In person people seem interested with it still, it has a big community here locally and the 4 local LGSs all have players.
I just never see it talked about here anymore
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Don't take the bait
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>>98330073
custodes are one of the first codex because they have to add the plastic HH models to the book
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>>98329785
Wrong.
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>>98329793
>I sincerely hope that 3rd edition of Kill Team doesn't end with another "one team vs NPOs" box set.

Huh, they already showed the Eldar vs Ork NPOs box.
Terrain will included in the next editions starter box again.
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>>98329990
>by painting krieg models in a different scheme.

Looks like shit, and literally nothing like Steel Legion. Painting Cadians with rebreathers in Steel Legion colours looks more like Steel Legion.. but this is autistic nitpicking in the end. because GW clearly showed they simply do not give a shit at all and they did neither of both, and instead gave us standard paintjob green cadians on Armageddon.
They couldn't even be bothered to give the new vehicles an armageddon-style paintjob.
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>>98330147
What plastic 30k units of theirs don't already have rules for 40k?
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>>98330188
none of them has rules in the codex
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ultralesbian had another bpd meltdown in the 'cord today
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>>98330240
Sounds gay
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>>98330240
Who the fuck cares about your cord
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>>98329854
So light you might as well make an army full of them
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>guardfags when they don't have 20 separate model lines for each of the glubb shitto regiments
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>>98330099
Nta but the local GW Shop where i am hosts KT games and even offers tutorial games for noobs
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>>98329503
>That said, Sisters aren't actually that expensive as far as prices go when compared to other armies
Doesn't help that they've wanted multiple large units of Sacresants for the last edition.
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>>98330287
>chaosfags when the year of chaos only has one new chaos army for 40k and one new chaos god
>whined so much they got constant releases for two years after
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>>98330240
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>>98330307
Not even a chaos guy, but they kind of actually are the most neglected super faction in general. Like xenos get constant new releases spread out over their wide variety of armies even though most of them don't really count themselves as a super faction. Chaos Knights and Chaos Demons are both just left to languish eternally. All of the cult legions besides Death Guard are kind of in a shitty half-finished state where they still have to mooch off of codex CSM.
CSM is treated really well which is one faction out of six.
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>>98330287
>orkfags when October isn't wall to wall ork/ork/orruk releases
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>>98327771
Are you this gigachad?
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>>98327771
Guard are SSS Tier though according to (F)Arts of War
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>>98330013
>Lennon got shat on in GW's world championship thing last year by who is probably the best player in the world right now, and was constantly ragging on how eldar are uninteractive, bad for the game and shit.
And he was right.
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Why does every army have to be able to cater to the retards?
Why can't armies be allowed to have a high skill ceiling that punishes the bad players?
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>>98330370
>guardfags so mad the trannie council of reddit had to issue an official statement condemning this vile affront
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>>98330357
I'm convinced gw decided to release orks before marines in the wave after the starter box so that orks won't be coming out in orktober
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>>98330380
You think Imperial Guard should be that army... and not like... Eldar or Imperial Agents?
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>>98330384
>coaching services
>for a fucking plastic toy soldier board game
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>>98330380
>Why can't armies be allowed to have a high skill ceiling that punishes the bad players?
T3 kino - eldar, deldar, sisters, GSC
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>>98330380
because 40k is not a game of skills
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>>98330385
orkfags will still have a meltdown about it
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>>98330395
Nah, I think they're pretty happy.
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>>98330393
then why are you losing all your games with imperial guard?
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>>98330398
We'll see how happy they are come Orktober
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>>98330393
Guardfag mentality
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>>98330380
deldar and sob are already the high skill armies, and gsc can be too. anything that demands the player actually need to know target priority and the ratios of how their units will match up against every other unit in the game. you're the one making decisions and if they're wrong you immediately lose.
the low skill army is obviously marines, who stat check the opponent with undercosted gravis armor and special characters.
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>>98330386
I don't imperial guard should be an army
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>>98330398
no, he’s right. I still want an ork release for orktober and I will bitch and moan over them not getting one.
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>>98330415
Sure you will, guardfag.
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>>98330287
>marinepigs when every glup shitto chapter/legion/warband doesn't get its own named characters, chapter specific unit range, and codex.
>or
>marinepigs when they don't get their equal attention cake.
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assuming they're rigging the armageddon campaign to have it end in a tie there's a fair chance they're doing this to give orks new detachments and to give SMs new detachments as an equal attention cake
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>>98330307
>>98330357
>>98330439
Dawww, look at the cute lil' guardfag, flailing around.
Try as you might, no one bitches as much as guardfags.
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>>98330454
>they bitch the most... because I say so!
Not how this works, kiddo
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>>98330454
I don't play guard, retard. orkfags, chaosfags, guardfags, and marinefags like you are the whiniest bitches in this hobby.
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>>98330454
>anon forgets about everything to do with primaris
>anon forgets about the blood angels bitching
>anon
>anon forgets about the 11th edition starter sets being ultramarines bitching
>anon forgets
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>>98330457
I don't say so, there's a ton of evidence, even posted itt. But I suppose feigned ignorance is the only defense mechanism you have left.
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>>98330466
>tons of evidence
>two pieces
anon, marinefags are still bitching about primaris and at one point there was a throoder who’d constantly post “Primaris is King” all the time because of the bitching.
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>>98330466
Evidence of Aeldari, Marine and Ork meltdowns you mean. But continue the nonense of le evul guard players.
What probably has your shit in a twist is that unlike when dark eldari fags screech for glup shitto units to come in plastic, GW actually listened to the guard community, acknowledged their mistake, apologized and showed they would do better. That's what is killing you. They will never do that for your army.
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What if the Sisters of Battle had cavalry?
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>>98330475
Terrible. Almost as bad as Terminator Sisters. Stop posting your wretched ideas.
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>>98327736
the XV8 is straight up out of scale with the rest of the modern battlesuits, they're so small that pilots literally could not fit inside them.

eagerly awaiting the rumored xv8 refresh
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>>98330478
My ideas are sound.
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>>98330384
Pushing plastic minis on the table is serious business.
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>>98330483
they are the proper size. unlike that commander model who is like 3 times the height of a marine. the upscaling of miniatures is getting out of hand.
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>>98330510
If you won't stand up for yourself now then you never will.
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>>98327771
In my experience sob do well enough with new sacresanct detachment and multiple sacresanct units. 11th edition boosts fast melee infantry that can safely sit in hiding and then jump and kill something and toe into terrain post combat.
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>If you won't stand up for yourself now then you never will.
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>>98330287
>buy guard, chud-kun, it let's you collect and play various human regiments from all across imperium
>on a second thought, nah, fuck you
>stop crying, you big baby, here's a new cadian unit for you armageddon campaign
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>>98330537
>it let's you collect and play various human regiments
When did they ever market guard this way? In the 90s?
Ever since I started playing in mid 7th it was just cadians.
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>>98330384
>coaching services for a wargame that changes every few years
Would this get much worse if gw decided warhammer editions should be as long as say the 5e edition was from release to 5.5e?
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>>98330386
I play agents, there is no army more gimped than it than maybe GSC when their army rule doesn't work at all and even that got fixed relatively fast.

The reason I play agents it's because it is a bunch of little shits that force you to focus on fundamentals or lose really fucking hard. Their neglect is downright comical and part of the appeal and faction identity at this point.
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>>98330521
Yes they do well but they overcosted them at the same time they introduced those detachments, especially if you want to make a full scares ant army to make the most out of your rule.
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>>98330537
Just buy some proxies at this point my guy.
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>>98330541
Since 8th when we got individual rules for Krieg, Cadians, Catachan units
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>>98330551
I'm not even a guardfag but I'm annoyed I can't take some last chancers or penal regiments in agents.
They are fucking made for kill team and yet nothing.
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>>98330511
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>>98330500
Yeah, sound shit.
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>>98330483
just because he's not going to be comfortable inside of it it doesn't mean he can't fit
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>>98330573
Those poor lil earth caste niggas have probably had to peel at least one or two dead fire castes outta those things after they got mulched by something ridiculous like a chaos knight chainsword or a stompa blasting it.
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>>98330573
>>98330511
even their very first codex cover shows the crisis suits as being huge enough to reasonably fit a pilot

the more i hear people bitching about scale creep the more it just starts to ring the same as old good new bad nonsense
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>>98330474
>bitching about eldar out of nowhere
put on a trip already so people can filter your shit
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>>98330583
that's in line with the size of the model though
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>>98330446
The ork codex is coming out first so they have less need for new detachments to be released early.
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>>98330407
>>98330391
DEldar will never be a starter box faction again because they're one of the hardest factions in the game to play and that's not what they want to be introducing people to the game with.
Same true for GSC, sadly.
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>>98330474
Guard players aren't evil, just delusional. Like believing that GW suddenly up and decided to make models because people shat themselves in the comments on a painting tutorial.
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>>98330600
>implying gameplay matters when a new edition writes new rules and adds new units
They could make a starter set of marines vs genestealers where the aliens are the most unga bunga side to ever play and there would be zero problems with it.

The only 3 requirements starter factions need to follow are that they must be evil fodder, they must be somewhat easy/forgiving to paint, and they must come with at least one horde unit to bump the number of models in the box because marines must be in numerical inferiority.
Dark eldar can get away with most of these except the latter because it doesn't suit them, unless we go with some wretched homunculi creations, while the genecults follow all the requirements except the one where they must be easy to paint, because their actual kits have lots of parts and decorations and human faces can be overwhelming for newcomers, which can be solved for what concerns the starter set contents if the models they introduce are simpler and the faces are either mostly alien or mostly masked.

The factions that can never be in a starter aside from imperial factions other than marines, are tau and eldar because they are not bad enough guys.
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>>98330608
>nobody gives a fuck about guard, no they aren't going to make your glup shitto regiments into plastic
>actually it was always GW's plan to make your glup shitto regiment into plastic, so the community backlash wasn't necessary
which one is it, you balding cock sucking faggot?
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>>98330591
>model shows earth cast is waist height
>painting shows fire warrirors and kroot are knee height

you need to get your eyes checked
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>>98330628
Nta, but GW isn't going to give waves of models comparable to the cadians and kriegers to regiments other than catachans. Regiments like the attilans and steel legion get a token unit and then are put aside, neither them or vostroyans or mordian or valhallan or tallarn or whatever else will get the premium treatment of the triad that's getting established with krieg, cadia and catachan.
You'll sooner see salamanders, raven guards, iron hands and white scars turned into fully independent codexes with their own units and returned primarchs than see the steel legion exist as anything other than a kill team.
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>>98330634
The painting has the suit fucking flying, retard.
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>>98330628
I never said the first. It's pretty obvious GW was planning on a Steel Legion refresh to coincide with the 11th edition Militarum codex.
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Locking in the arm pose for this Space Furry Invictor. I like this model honestly.
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>>98330536
I look like this and say this
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>Lizardman soliders of all sorts of shapes and sizes
>Along with willowly waif like babes
40k could never be so based I fear
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>>98330672
furry bait
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>>98330647
gib white scars codex
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Call me a noob secondary tourist, but what would happen if GW just tried to break the mould by not doing space Marines in a starter box for once? Armageddon could have been a perfect time to launch a refresh of steel legion vs orks, people would probably be super hyped and not be left with a mixed reviews about yet more pritrannies in new poses. Am I wrong?
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>>98330654
its just lifting off the hill retard, its still at the same elevation as them retard

god your fucking retarded retard
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>>98330677
Aren't they called scalies?
Anyway on lizardmen in 40k I think it would be more interesting if they were a total inverse of how they are in fantasy. Instead of being the biological robots of the old ones working for the greater good as an amoral force. They should just be evil, raiders and slavers who perform human sacrifice to the chaos gods
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>>98330696
>Aren't they called scalies?
I'm not degenerate enough to know the specifics of that divide in the community.
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>>98330695
it's flying, it's not touching the hill
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>>98330691
>not doing space Marines in a starter box for once?
Lose of the sale boost of marinefags that buy everything with a marine in it.
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>>98330691
space marine players/collectors are 90% of your game base
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>>98330691
I'm more baffled that they didn't do Exodites vs refreshed Katachan instead of some orks that were clogging the warehouse.
Would've been the best Kill Team box of all time.
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>>98330696
And I somehow forgot that sacrifice was already a big part of fantasy lizardmen with the rats. Due to their aztec/south america inspitation. I guess them doing this to humans would be cool, ut I think GW wouldn't want a clearly aztec/incan/mayan coded race be clear bad guys and would instead change them to be deracinated/decultured cultists of some sort. Probably generic lovecraftian cultist types
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>>98330704
no obviously its just lifting off from the hill, not meaningfully above it, as if it were just on the hill with them

that said, retard, and this is the really funny part so pay attention, if it were flying, perspective would then go to mean that the battlesuit would be EVEN LARGER when brought into the foreground with them proper, as the further back or up it is from them, the foreground characters, the smaller it appears.

so if i took your stupid fucking argument on its position in the painting it would reinforce my own point that battlesuits are fucking huge even more as the infantry would barely come up past its ankle the less foreshortened it gets in perspective

so pick your poison. you can be wrong one way or wrong another but either way you're wrong
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>>98330691
>but what would happen if GW just tried to break the mould by not doing space Marines in a starter box for once?
People wouldn't buy it. As annoying as it is that marines hog the spotlight and most of the model releases for the game, they quite literally keep the lights on for GW as a company.
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>>98330696
>chaos
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>>98330647
10 years ago you were here screeching that Krieg would never get plastics. Instead of making more arrogant declarations of what is or isn't coming with a jewish smirk on your face, you can be humble and be silent.
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>>98330717
>flying a meter above the ground means its perspective would make it twice the size of the actual model!
can you rotate a cow in your mind?
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>>98329990
>wrong gun
>wrong coat
>wrong boots
>wrong gloves
>pauldrons
>big backpack
if people can complain that primaris look like shit because of small tacticool details then I can complain that painting kriegoids as steel legion looks like shit because of small ww1-core details
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>>98330723
>10 years ago you were here screeching that Krieg would never get plastics
No, I wasn't, you schizo.
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>>98330691
marinefags are a very predictable consumer base in that they’ll buy any marine release no matter how bad it is. any other faction will gladly let something flop if it’s bad or simply not their taste, so its far better to stick to marines than risk a box outright flopping.
>steel legion vs orks
I don’t mind steel legion/Imperial Guard unlike SOME anons here, but that would be a horrible idea. starter boxes should be representatives of the entire faction not a niche subfaction.
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Wait, Tau are strong in 11E?
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>>98330726
You can join the retards in the corner of irrelevant gripes, yes.
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>>98330720
I would love for their to be an evil force in the galaxy that isn't related to chaos.
Spcae Marines that fall into/create a cult worshipping the C'tan, or someother alien thing could be cool. Or something else totally new But this is GW writing so it all goes back to chaos, chaos which is 4 very specific god with their daemonic minions take the very same forms every time
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>>98330380
high skill ceiling armies punish stores dumb enough to stock that faction.

>>98330543
people pay for coaching services because they don't get many opportunities to play a week and you will often play the same couple guys from your FLGS. It's easier to just spend a little bit of cash and get better on your own time - if you can afford 40k prices you can afford a coach over discord.
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>>98330735
>extremely underpriced; crisis suit team cheaper than a guardsman squad
>riptides not hit with the rising points until you hit the 3rd one (should have been after your first)
>armywide on demand +1 to hit/ignore cover with guiding/markerlights
etc etc
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>>98330733
>starter boxes should be representatives of the entire faction not a niche subfaction
they wouldn't be a niche subfaction
all that each regiment needs in terms of unique models is infantry squad, command squad, heavy weapon squad, since all vehicles and auxiliaries are interchangeable
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>>98330742
>Spcae Marines that
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>>98330742
>would love for their to be an evil force in the galaxy that isn't related to chaos.
what is orks, necrons, tyranids and deldar
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>>98330712
Lizardmen sacrifice humans just fine.
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>>98330726
>>wrong gun
>>wrong coat
>>wrong boots
>>wrong gloves
>>pauldrons
>>big backpack
So you'll complain about the new steel legion too.
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>>98330764
correct
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>>98330745
>extremely underpriced
Oh
>crisis suit team cheaper than a guardsman squad
Ooh... it's 3 models vs 10, but still
>riptides not hit with the rising points until you hit the 3rd one (should have been after your first)
Booo
>armywide on demand +1 to hit/ignore cover with guiding/markerlights
Eh I'm okay with those. Like what else could the Tau faction rule be?
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>>98330755
kek, good point though. I guess Imperial gaurd or just humans that worship C'tan. Maybe even aliens, but then you're stepping on the toes of the Tau and their xeno mercs. Then again that's not really their focus crisis suits are so I guess there could be room for a true multi alien faction.
>>98330757
Yeah but like in the context of evil lizardmen raiders who rape and pillage and perform mass human sacrifice it wouldn't make sense for them to work for the orks, necrons, nids. Maybe at a stretch they could be deldar aligned.
Perhaps they could work for a mummified desiccated husk of an old one. Like lord kroak from fantasy but you know bigger but actually properly dead and they're just a lizard cargo cult. Or is it actually dead OOOoooooo spooky
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>>98330767
Then you're not worth listening to, in gw's eyes.
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>>98330764
Where do you think you are?
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>>98330179
>>98330726
At a certain point you have to give up the fight and just enjoy the fact that you're getting new HD plastic models at all.

it might not be 100% correct but it's like 10x the range support that ASL has EVER gotten in the past.
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i should buy a supremacy armour
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>>98330784
Buy some soap for your ass instead! It stinks!
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>>98330725
>he's onto his third excuse now

lolololol
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>>98330745
I was really surprised at all the points cuts Tau got in the MFM. I hope Riptides get nerfed on points soon. I collect Tau but hate that sculpt, smaller suits and hover tanks are much cooler.
>armywide on demand +1 to hit/ignore cover with guiding/markerlights
This should stay. Tau are supposed to be *the* shooty army, but they are actually beaten in volume and strength by a lot of others. It makes sense for them to carve out the niche of being more accurate if their guns aren't impressive on their own.
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>>98330784
Yes you should, but buy a recast. FW is such a scam and casters frequently have better quality at a much lower price.
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>>98330764
>>98330771
NTA but I am usually happy with "close enough" from companies, especially in cases like this where only a tiny amount of shaving and kitbashing is needed to achieve my desired result. I might even get Steel Legion if the end result is good enough.

When a company promises me red and gives me blue, I am pissed off. When a company promises me red and gives me orange that looks red if you squint, I can deal.

But I can also understand and sympathise when people aren't happy with being promised red and being given orange.
I'm not sure why you feel the need to defend megabirriondorrarcorporation
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>>98330795
Sit down lil nigger, he owned you LOL
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>>98330795
You're the one crawling on glass because you want the armor to be bigger than it actually always was.
You missed the fact it's not level with the troops you were comparing them to and then crying about how perspective would arbitrarily and conveniently match your wishes, despite there not being such a dramatic perspective at play there.
You need to accept that crisis suits are meant to be the size they are, and that pilot fits in its claustrophobic insides just fine.
If you want larger suits then be smarter and ask for xv9 instead.
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>>98330743
I can’t afford either that’s why I ordered a printer.
:(
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>>98330742
>I would love for their to be an evil force in the galaxy that isn't related to chaos.
>Like Space Marines who worship the other evil gods
GW does evil, but occasionally /tg/ will shit something out that reminds you it's for the best.
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Does anyone have examples of daemonettes kitbashed with sisters of battle heads/bits? I feel like that could be a good mix to make them "prettier".
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>>98330819
>GW does evil, but occasionally /tg/ will shit something out that reminds you it's for the best.
Is this some AI that got lost in the sauce this sentence makes no sense
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>>98330672
Nipples
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>>98330764
I like these guys. I do think they should be their own thing.
I do understand why the changes were made because for Krieg and their stahlhelms the argument could be made that they’re ww1 stuff, but modern steel legion with paratrooper stahlhelms wouldn’t fly in this messed up era as much as I’d prefer the paratrooper helmets.

I do think the shoulderpads were necessary because decal application.
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>>98330770
>but then you're stepping on the toes of the Tau and their xeno mercs
tau are good guys and their aliens follow their aesthetics, either by being noble savages or similarly tame sci fi races.

aesthetically evil alien races warrant either an independent book of alien raiders or to be spread between dark eldar, chaos, radical inquisitors, or nid agents if gw ever decides to do something with the zoats.
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>>98330829
>this sentence makes no sense
Doesn't it? It essentially says GW is the lesser evil compared to fanfiction.
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>>98330819
>but occasionally /tg/ will shit something out that reminds you it's for the best.
Such as?
What has been some good 40k homebrew that has come about that isn’t jokes?
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>>98330834
>tau Xenos mercs
That reminds me of the stargrave plastics. They’ve got alien heads but they are all humanoid because the bodies are human for the human heads.
Will the stargrave heads work on tau bodies?
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>>98330726
>then I can complain
And everyone else will rightfully call you a faggot.
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>>98330770
It's not a stretch for evil alien reptiles to work for the evil empire of galactic harvesters who frequently employ alien mercenaries.
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>>98330834
Yeah evil xenos races working with deldar like this would be cool
>>98330839
Many suggested factions, the flesh algomations suggested a few threads ago. The mars atttack little green men idea for a new grot faction. A general xeno merc codex
Some suggestions for how to expand chaos, dark mech and the forge of souls. Lots of good ideas get thrown around in this general
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>>98330833
original steel legion had a mix of regular helms and literal stahlhelms
they could go to all round helms and different combos of rebreather and goggles on the heads to differentiate them from krieg more
I don't like the pauldrons because they are mech infantry so they should be carrying minimal kit for easy embark / disembark
catachans don't have tacked on pauldrons
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>>98330843
I don't think it will look good to have the body, legs and arms be recognisably tau and just a different alien head.
It works with a more human-like body because we have decades of anthropocentric rubber-forehead aliens, but the same suspension of disbelief doesn't work on tau as the basis.

If I were to recommend you something to spice up tau units to include alien auxilia, I'd tell you to grab starfinder minis.
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>>98330858
>Throw a Sslyth in with your Incubi
>Throw a Rakgol in with your Wracks
>Throw a Khrave in with your Scourges
>Throw a Loxatl in with your Khymerae
You could easily just proxy them and fluff them as alien mercs integrated in with a larger army or something
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>>98330743
Do you pay someone to fuck your wife as well so you can learn how to do it better?
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>>98330818
hell yeah brother, this is all just plastic army men at the end of the day.

>>98330806
NTA but I don't really sympathize, nobody was promised anything and this whole issue can be handwaived away with a sentence in a codex saying that SL soldiers have begun to adopt Krieg pattern equipment.
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>>98330858
>the most racist group of friends in the galaxy

>the most tolerant group of friends in the galaxy
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>>98330862
>catachans don't have tacked on pauldrons
not yet
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>>98330881
They can have muscles large enough for the decals to be applied as tattoos on their skin.
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>>98330876
It's the only way to get good for the greater good
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>>98330875
Ain't exactly easy to get good minis for them.
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>>98330880
>The Dark Eldar were co’tau: anti-tau. Their existence was based entirely on selfishness and the misery of others, both physical and emotional. They were the absolute opposite of the Greater Good, and they had to be stopped.
>They had to be destroyed.

Aun Shi talking about Dark Eldar. Never going to not have “The Greater Bad” in my head now.
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>necrons cosmic precision stratagem
>3" deep strike but cant charge
>got nerfed to 6" in 10th balance dataslate
>balance dataslate no longer exists
>only change to the strat in the necrons faction pack is that you cant use it on monsterd

am I missing something here? can I deep strike a monolith 3" away again now?
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convince me not to paint desert storm themed guard
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>>98330887
That's a she-eldar.

Which opens a question, is getting cucked by a woman more or less shameful than being cucked by a man?
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>>98330880
Dark Eldar viewing all other life in the galaxy as beneath them, living off their suffering and pain while also leaving them a whole section of their own hidden city (a shit section down in the lower sections but still) is still one of the best and most beleivable aspects about them. I do wonder how that alien mercenaty quarter of Commorragh actually gets no alien mercs in. Dark Eldar would have to guide them there no?
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>>98330876
no? that's a silly comparison. This game has a crazy skill ceiling and requires a some serious financial and time investments if you are want to interact at all with the competitive side of the hobby.
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>>98330893
Not the greater bad. The Greatest Bad
That's is a good line though, didn't know the term co'tau before.
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>>98330901

I would rather headbutt a railroad spike than handpaint camo onto a horde army but for KT it sounds fun.
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is the monolith now a pile of shit?

>units teleported via the eternity gate ability make an ingress move
>ingress move states you must be deployed 8" away from all other enemy units

?
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>>98330893
I like the tau considering the dark eldar their opposites because I headcanon the tau as being made by the dark eldar as cattle.
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>>98328143
wait a minute that flag...
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>>98330825
no one?
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>>98330939
I've never seen anyone do that
>>98330932
I love it when mky cattle have plasma rifles as standard equipment, mechs and interstellar space ships to fight me off. You'd deldar cattle speices would be once intelligent races that were forcibly devolved into animals in behavour and incapable of higher thinking
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>>98330825
just use bitch elves
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>>98330901
Do it.
Though the camo is going to be really time-consuming to do decently on full squads.
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>>98330944
>I love it when mky cattle have plasma rifles as standard equipment, mechs and interstellar space ships to fight me off.
Why, yes, they gotta have some mordant to them otherwise they wouldn't grow at a galactic scale to feed such a large city, or be easy prey to anyone other than yours truly.

Feeding on mindless beasts may as well be walking the path of the vegan on a daycareworld.
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>>98330902
Women can't actually have sex with each other, so it's impossible for them to cuck.
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>>98328143
this will never get old desu.
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>>98330858
so are dark eldar like "Dude this snake is as amoral and sadistic as me... he truly gets it... C'mon man, join the court." or what
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>>98328143
I'm so glad that fucking piece of shit finally stopped posting here, my god
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>>98330961
It sounds like you're avoiding the question by hiding behind semantics.
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>>98330974
Yeah, actually.
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>>98330954
>grow at a galactic scale to feed such a large city, or be easy prey to anyone other than yours truly.
You know I didn't think about it like that. Tau tech no matter how good it is will always be inferior to dark eldar one who have the best in setting. And they've solved death so no one really dies when fighting the tau, no one that isn't vatborn anyway.
I really like the idea of letting the Tau grow just to feed their city. Tau imperalism , which the tau do for their benefit is actually just feeding their galatic civlisational predator. Its a really neat idea actually
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>>98330901
every tan paint I'm using is kind of garbage. the gw ones (steel legion drab, andri dust) are that awful mix of thick and translucent, and TTC sandstone is so watery I can't blend or do clean lines for shit.
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Finally stripping a bunch of minis today so I can repaint them.
Today, I'll strip them all. Tomorrow, I'll hit them all with my base primer. The day after, I'll block in details. The day after that, it's an oil wash on everything. Then, basing.
Will it look amazing? No. Will it be fine at play distance and get me to stop waffling about not wanting to play because everything is in different stages of painting and different techniques? Yes.
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>>98331039
grow up, go outside, and have sex.
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>>98330974
Dark Eldar know the most untrustworthy thing in the universe is another Dark Eldar. So a treacherous venomous snake that also enjoys suffering seems positively trustworthy by comparison as their bodyguards.
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>>98331000
that's a super cute interaction. Hope the sneks come back
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>>98331001
The Dark Eldar secretly supporting the Imperium and helping keep the emperor alive via a service contract with the High Lords of Terra just so they can keep harvesting humans is also a funny little nod to this kind of behavior
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>>98331057
>grow up
Can’t, economy didn’t let me
>go outside
Can’t, I’ll die from a heat stroke, can’t even have a decent walk because the cities infrastructure is anti pedestrian
>have sex
I’ll get raped at my LGS with my eldar army, does that count
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>>98331057
>grow up
Already did. Also the economy is down the shitter and no one wants to hire.
>go outside
Already am as I am posting this.
>have sex
Life fucks me already, does that count?
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>>98331006
Army Painter Skeleton Bone and Vallejo Model Color Khaki have both worked pretty well for me.
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sheesh we getting a little doomer in here
Life is good boys remember that
Every day is a gift
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>>98331106
Everyday is poison, I agree.
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>>98331106
im doin pretty good, my order is out for delivery today
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>>98331069
Man that's another cool idea. I never thought about the dark eldar themselves wanting to help the Imperium via Golden Throne maintaince so they're main food source can last a little longer. I know in canon it was the admech(?) who somehow contacted them and the single haemoncoli that came tried to fuck them over immediately who then died.

But I like the idea of like a very competent team of haemoncoli and dark eldar, sneaking into Terra and the Golden Palace under orders from Vect himself to do urgent repairs without being detected by the custodians or palace staff slaves. And then they're detected by pilgrims who have snuck in over years crawling through sewers or something, lost most of their numbers. Then the dark eldar force them to actually meet the God Emperor fulfilling their only wish and then getting a mega boost from the sheer suffering that would inflict on the pilgrims cause the emperor is a super melted down nuclear core.
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neverdoom boys
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>>98331116
You fucker, you're the one that beat me to the stock.
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How do you deal damage as Death Guard? I always feel like my ranged and even melee isn't doing anything, despite having LoV or LoC with my termies. Plague Marines don't feel like they're doing much either. Is it all just vehicles?
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>>98331134
i wasnt even on the notification list, just got lucky. saw the scalping prices on ebay and said fuck that, went into the webstore and they were just back in stock.
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>>98331135
how are you equipping plague marines, who have access to 8+ special weapons, that they aren't dealing any damage?
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>>98331144
That makes me even angrier, you probably did this as I was getting home from work.
Enjoy them, you bastard.
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>>98330666
It's become a guilty pleasure for me. I have two because of the Raven Guard box but have yet to build them.
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>>98331152
Going either full melee or full ranged
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>>98331135
Just point and click. Death Guard are the "I have every special rule" army.
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>>98331209
whats all this we business? Im on the comeup
Also night lords are extremely based
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>>98331135
1x Plague Champion: Plasma gun, Power fist
2x Plague Marine w/ blight launcher
2x Plague Marine w/ plasma gun
4x Plague Marine w/ heavy plague weapon
1x whatever you want

I do this with an attached Biologus Putrifier and Malignant Plaguecaster. The whole unit is shitting out 5+ lethal/sustained and works for both shooting and melee. I've had these idiots spike an overwatch against The Lion and kill him.
The thing about Death Guard is that our most effective threat range is 18". We're not great at long range and not great if you focus only on melee. Many other armies are far more resilient than DG and other armies are better at debuffing so you have to find a balance. It feels bad that the whole playstyle GW wants for DG is simply outdone by other factions right now.
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there should be a breakaway tau pirate faction
have them led by a rogue ethereal
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>>98331229
DG are in such a weird place now that HW has kind of shifted their identity from durable and slow medium range threats to a debuffing army where being slow actively hinders their ability to do the debuffing thing outside of a few units. And then they nerfed their best debuff on top of that, so I don't even know what they want them to be anymore.
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>>98330858
If I had my way the Khrave would just take the place of Dark Eldar nearly 1:1. From even just the 1 piece of art we have you can tell the armor design is extremely adjacent to Dark Eldar so all their vehicles and what not would work just as well for them. I'd say that the pre-fall Eldar that didn't escape to the maiden worlds and craftworlds were completely succed by Slaanesh, leaving the remains of their depraved empire as graveyard worlds that a burgeoning alien civilization stumbled across and slid into repopulating, bumping up against the rest of the Eldar periodically.

Then I'd be split on two directions - do they figure out the webway and start actively antagonizing the Eldar, and/or does Slaanesh take notice of them adopting a lot of pre-fall Eldar civilization (especially the icky stuff) and reach out as a patron, giving us the chaos-alien faction the tabletop doesn't have representation for? I don't think the two can co-exist, if they can get into the webway easily enough and also actively worship Slaanesh then it is probably just GG for the Eldar. But I really like both ideas, them infesting the webway in a manner akin to how the Skaven use the tunnels of the Dwarf holds, maybe they even hold Commoragh, not realizing that aping the old eldar empire is probably spelling the doom of their race as well. Or the also bleakly appealing idea of them clearly knowing what Slaanesh can do to a civilization on a grand scale and still serving them regardless works well.
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>>98331242
I played against a friend with 1KSons recently and they're more durable and better at slinging debuff and can do it at better range. So I'm not sure what the thought process is when other factions do what they want DG to do much better. I want DG to go back to being incredibly durable and shitcan the contagion stuff entirely cuz they've never really gotten it right.
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>>98331135
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>>98331253
Das stoopid nigga
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>opponent at LGS is gushing about how much he likes his latest models
>don't want to be rude so i don't comment on the fact that he didn't scrape the mold lines before painting
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>>98331348
there's a world eater dude at my lgs and his models are pretty good but it's super obvious he used a plastic 3d printer because i can see the terracing and a few stray plastic hairs and it drives me insane
i want to tell him to buy a resin instead or give them a sanding or higher resolution stl or some shit but im scared he might spill his spaghetti and think i'm accusing him of piracy
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>>98331348
I have never scraped a mold line in my life, painted models you can't see them unless you're trying extremely hard.
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>>98331366
>unless you're trying extremely hard.
i'm autistic and i can laser hone on a model's details from across the table
it was specifically a krootox rampager where the mold line goes right down the middle of the face so it's really obvious when the shading collects on the line and makes it obvious
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>>98331348
>BLYAAAAATT!!!
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>>98331364
>think i'm accusing him of piracy
if the print layers are that obvious he probably doesn't care and just wants to play the game without paying a trillion dollars to GW
resin printers also make cancer fumes and setting up a fumehood or exhaust for it is a pain in the ass
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I didnt see a Kill Team general, but my LGS just called and said that my preorder of Nemesis Operatives came in today. So if you were waiting on it, check with your LGS
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>>98331366
>painted models you can't see them unless you're trying extremely hard.
That's incredibly wrong but you do you.
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>imperial agents arent a real army
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>>98331468
one guy took IA to a tournament and went 4-1
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Am I wrong or is it really stupidly hard to get individual models second-hand nowadays? I basically never see listings for single models on ebay anymore except for British listings with 9 million dollar shipping fees and that one guy who sells a random model out of a box in a baggy. Fuck, I just want three specific poxwalkers for a conversion.
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>>98331468
WERE NUMBA ONE WOOOOOOO
AGENTS META BABE WAKE UP ITS AGENTS META
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>>98331348
>cash in on his mistake later for (you)s
That has nothing to do with painting, you're an elitist faggot but at least you know how to hold your faggot tongue.
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>>98331495
You have to catch models in their hay day. Back during 8e it was not hard to get single poxwalkers.
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>>98331500
4chan (you)'s have gone through hyperinflation due to the lack of an IP counter so this was worthless
in fact, every reply to that post was myself samefagging
in fact, i even made your post calling me out
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Waacfag had a generational crash out and sold all his backlog kits dirt cheap to go all in on the konflict 47 meme so for £150 i got the following:
>Commander Farsight
>Broadside
>Riptide
>3 Crisis Suits
>Tau combat patrol
>Cadre Fireblade
>unit of pathfinders
>Tau 10th codex

Is that solid for 1000pts. I've been told a unit of stealth suits and a second box of crisis suits would cover my bases but i dont know whats what in 11th.
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>>98331495
Which poxwalkers?
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>>98331527
Alright, ask yourself this. Do you care about being fucked in melee? If no, just buy whatever is the meta shooty units. If yes, grab some Kroot and/or the Twin Lance.
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>>98331597
>grab
>twin lance

good luck. shits been out of stock since .0001 seconds after it released and is currently being scalped to hell for 3x retail on secondary markets
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Why is Abaddon so fucking lame? I want to like the black legion and chaos marines in general, but they're just so pathetic. I don't know why chaos is hyped as the most dangerous threat in 40k when they can't get a single real dubski.
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>>98331607
I suppose you could grab a recast but those aren’t necessarily always good quality.
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OH BOY I SURE DO LOVE IT WHEN MY ARMY BECOMES A USELESS PILE OF SHIT DUE TO UNNECCESSARY RULES CHANGES THATS SO FUN I LOVE HAVING 1300PTS OF MODELS BE DOGSHIT
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>>98331609
>Why is Abaddon so fucking lame?
Because you've never touched a woman.
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>>98331622
cope nigga
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>>98331609
it's kind of funny because other big bads like Vect and Ghazzy still have aura despite not taking over the whole galaxy but Abbadon has zero aura
I guess it's because chaos is so edgy and self serious
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>>98331609
because 40k bas been infected with the cancer of chaos marine apologism
and because abaddon has no cool helmet
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>>98331627
No, I agree with all your undoubtedly well thought out points, but the only way to fix it is for you to have sex with a woman. Games Workshop is watching and waiting for you to do so.
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>>98331609
Because GW writers are not smart enough to pull off the 200 IQ villain properly and he ends up being boring, shallow and irrelevant.
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>>98331609
>bro just 1 more crusade bro trust me bro this time we win bro please just 1 more crusade
who even signs up for these black crusades
might as well do literally anything else
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>>98331621
If you buy models based on rules, this is your own fault.
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>>98331629
Vect Aura has been nerfed substantially this edition
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Q&A starting now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rvuS7Jq4YE
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Old school anons, I want to do my librarians and apothecaries like this instead of fully blue / white. I was wondering if Chaplains were also done like this back in the day?
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>>98328777
weakness
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>>98331555
Guy with gun, guy in straight jacket, guy with axe from EtB version
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>>98331609
Because chaos is essentially eternal
Gods and all that
So abaddon has no sense of urgency to get shit done
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>>98331366
hard disagree, they stand out super obvious to me. granted some are worse than others, but it always strikes me as lazy as it adds like 5% total work to model prep. You already have your model out and a hobby knife nearby just scrape/sand them a bit it really takes like 0 extra work for a ton of reward

maybe im just poisoned by the internet making fun of mold lines for 20 years
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>>98330905
>I do wonder how that alien mercenaty quarter of Commorragh actually gets no alien mercs in. Dark Eldar would have to guide them there no?
Rogue Trader cRPG has this explained. Leftover, discarded slaves walk around and form gangs to survive. That way poorer Deldar can hunt even in Commorragh. There are even gangs composed of Deldar and alien mercs. Sslyth Malice is in charge of one and has Deldar as his helpers.
Hell, you can depose Malice and take over the gang and you have even such low ranking Deldar in your gang. And best thing is you can have help them escape and they join your crew once you are back in realspace kek
So this is probably how Sec Maegra happened, a lot of captured slaves formed their own gangs, keep being reinforced by new slaves and breed in there as well.
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>>98331366
Same, I just don’t care enough fill gaps or deal with mold lines
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>>98329984
>Like making a campaign and box set about Mars and not including anything Admech related.
Heresy 2.0 did this
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An Imperial Inquisitor puts a gun to your head and says the following:

>Paint this squad of minis in 1 hour to battle ready condition or you die.

Could you do it?



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