Vehicle Edition>Bans (New)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-29-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98312947>TQWhat is your favorite vehicle?
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dead gamedead generallmao
>new cardmarket video of Pauper, Legacy and Vintage>Legacy is a shitpit>Pauper is slow and boring>Cut to Vintage>Lurrus vs Lurrus>Lurrus vs Lurrus>Lurrus vs Lurrus>Lurrus vs Lurrus>Lurrus vs Lurrusjfc
>>98329461Can MTG be saved at this point?
I still don't know the difference between all constructed non-Standard formats and at this point I'm afraid to askNames like Pioneer or Modern are unironically some of the least descriptive names they could've chosen, at least Pauper is obvious
>>98329948>I still don't know the difference between all constructed non-Standard formats and at this point I'm afraid to askDon't. Game's shit, it won't mean anything and it's not like you're going to play any of them.
>>98329948Pioneer= Standard+Modern=Modern Horizons constructed block.Simple as.
>>98329963>Pioneer= Standard+It's basically just No Bans Standard at this point. 90% of every deck is just the Standard banlist plus Thoughtseize, Treasure Cruise and Fatal Push.
>>98329948Every format has its own banlist and stipulations, but at a super high level:Standard - All cards in standard-legal (core) sets in the past 3 years. Examples of non-standard-legal sets are Modern Masters or EDH preconstructed decks.Pioneer - All cards from core sets from Return to Ravnica block (2012) onwards. One format-defining ban is fetchlands, which provide too much consistency and colorfixing.Modern - All cards from core sets from 8th Edition (2003) onwards. It also includes some direct-to-modern sets such as Modern Horizons. Legacy - All cards from all sets. EDH precons, core sets, supplemental sets, doesn't matter. As long as it's not a deliberate joke card from an Un-set, it's here. There's also a few dozen cards banned for power level, most importantly the power nine; black lotus, ancestral recall, etc. Vintage - Everything is legal. Outside of ones that fundamentally break Magic, no card is banned. At worst, you're limited to a single copy in your deck.
>>98329912the future of "real" magic is likely people's shitbag custom sets (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, even in a vacuum), or a legally distinct game that, instead of trying to be "magic, but without mana screw :o woah dude epic" is literally just magic with different words and art
>>98329969>the future of "real" magic is likely people's shitbag custom setThere are two places you can still experience MTG in a playable state: Cube and Custom. That's it.
>>98329912PlayPremodernSaveMagic
>>98329991personally i'm not that big a fan of tempest-urza standard
>>98329969Magic compatible cards by a different company: Different frames and backs, different mana symbols, same format and templating. For the content:Community licensed custom setsArt has to be AI, it's cheaper and the company is going to need the money for the lawsuit.>>98329971I have so many custom cards that I could make an all custom cube, that's the endgame.
>>98330053>I have so many custom cards that I could make an all custom cube, that's the endgame.My custom set cube is great and just got an update, you should do it.
>>98329852Vintage is even worse than that, Lurrus is near unplayable because Car demands so many counterspells you have to bend over backwards to address it. Thus Countervine is playable again because Bowmasters is not being played and it puts a reasonable clock on the Car decks but sometimes it fails to get the countermagic or clock necessary to function and Car overruns it. Dredge is unplayable because it has a 20% winrate vs car.
>>98330081I suspect it was filmed immediately before Car was unleashed.
>>98329968Yeah stuff like Vintage or Legacy confuse me, because I know both are "all cards are allowed" with one having slightly lower power level, but I always mix them up since the names basically mean nothingWhile Modern and Pioneer are equally confusing since Modern is not... that modern anymore? You'd expect with a name like that, it'd be the "second most modern format" right behind Standard but nope Also, the arbitrary starting point of the two Ravnica blocks feels weird because you'd expect them to start with some important milestone core set instead (Xth edition, for example)
SEXOOOO SEXOOO SEXOOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOOOOOO FR I got this card and the rest of the secret lair cards yeterday
>>98330488Maybe you can stop fucking ritualposting about it then.
>>98330488too bad you have sexproof now
>>98330488You know what's next
>>98330488Are you ok?
I cast this post >>98330488 paying its Overload cost and I change each instance of "witch" with "cat"Your go
>>98330488Cum tribute the card, anon.
>>98330488post it
Quick questionWould you a Kyoshi Warrior?
not Magic the Gathering
>>98331218It literally says wizards of the coast right on the card right under Viacom. Lmao.
>>98331218hate to be the one to tell you this, but.....
say no to UB, even good onegood one UB is the gateway UByou give them an inch, they will take the format
>>98331268>say no to UB, even good oneFailure at premise.There is no good UB.
>>98331272>>98331268>good one UB is the gateway UBwhich is funny because the actual first UB was total dogshit
>>98331268Half of Standard sets going forward from here on out are already UB, a bit too late for that don't you think?
>>98331308>Half of Standard sets going forward from here on out are already UB, a bit too late for that don't you think?Half?60% this year. 100% next year.STAR TREK WILL SAVE MAGIC.
just started playing this with my 6 year old son and he's picked it up really quickly. i have only played a handful of games before and I'm just using final fantasy starter decks. how should i expand my collection? boosters or is there a better option?
>>98331320>just started playing this with my 6 year old sonWhat did he do to deserve such a profane punishment?
Imagine saying you will not consoom UB when more than half this year product has been UB. With Hobbit and Trek around the corner LMFAO
>>98331320Anyway, on a more serious note, MTG is a sick and dying game run by greedy, amoral psychopaths. My recommendation is not to get your kid invested in it, keep the starter decks as a casual game to play like any other board game.Get your kid interested in something valuable, that will uplift his spirit, not something that will demand his eternal soul in exchange for cardboard, then declare he still hasn't given enough after. Preferably, some good hobbies to enrich his expressive, mental and physical lives. Something that you love and can share your genuine love for is best, not a game you just picked up.
I liked final fantasy it was a good draft set and they should make more good draft sets of any flavor.
>>98331320Foundations Jumpstart boosters, you can shuffle 2 and have a small deck to play with, there are 46 different themed 20-card boosters, lots of possibilities, the Foundations set is supposed to be a more simple/foundational Magic thing, good for people starting
>>98331344>I liked final fantasy it was a good draft set
>>98331344EoE was also a good draft set
>>98331339
man I hate zoomer touristsno, FIN and EOE were not good draft sets.There has not been a good draft set since RoE.
>>98331344Final Fantasy was the only "acceptable" UB til date and is still atrocious to see Vivi or Sephirot alongside Liliana or Jace, so imagine when Bilbo Baggins or how the playerbase actually feels playing Dr. Doom or Hulk.
>>98331355>SpacecraftThe "EoE only exists to manufacture consent for the Star Trek UB" schizos proven right....
>>98331327i bought the starter pack and tried it out with him and he really liked it and asks me to play a lot. i don't force him or anything, just a casual game instead of videogames all time. odin has a you win the game if you hit the opponent move and he blocked it with an instant and he loved that.
>>98331341yeah this post comes across a little dramatic, but in all seriousness I agree. if I had a son I don't think I would want him getting into magic unless I somehow knew that all he was going to do was like, make cubes and Jumpstart decks for his middle school friends to play with.on the other hand he'd be immune to UB marketing since all of the crossovers wotc gets appeal exclusively to millennials and older lol.
>>98331368Always was true. Not some elaborated conspiracy theory but they literally made EoE as a test for Star Trek.
>>98331367What if you equip patrick star with thors hammer though.
>>98331370>i bought the starter pack and tried it out with him and he really liked it and asks me to play a lot. i don't force him or anything,Raise your kid right, mate. Guiding your child toward things that are spiritually enriching, and away from the immediate gratification of "he liked it", is a serious duty you should take up.Not to rain on your kid having fun, and your goal to dodge video games is fine. Why dodge vidyaslop with paperslop though? Same shit, different medium. Play is great, but so is guidance. Good parenting is more than just eternal fun-seeking.
>>98331361unc is so hipster he didn't even like 3x ISD
>>98331361Hows summer vacation going lil bro? You just want to be a contrarian its widely known that final fantasy was a great draft set.
>>98331409>its widely known that final fantasy was a great draft set.People with zero taste saying something is good is an indication that thing was, in fact, not good.
>>98331379Wish they hadnt cucked the power level of every eoe card except the damn oroboid. Justice for my planets
>>98331418Its fine that you dont like final fantasy but youre just wrong. The set mechanics were very good for draft it was insanely fun. I dont care if they make a hatsune miku set as long as draft is fun.
>>98331435>Its fine that you dont like final fantasy but youre just wrong. The set mechanics were very good for draft it was insanely fun.It was linear and generic, had zero friction within its gameplay and posed no challenges. It was plagued by 65%+ winrate bonus sheet bombs and forcing Wx was the only good option.The format.Was.Fucking.Shit.
>>98331409the only thing I didn't like about it was the mega bomb bonus sheet, fuck losing to an Atraxa or a turn 2 smugglers copter in draft lol>>98331442wu was good but not so good that you could force white in an actual pod
>>98331442Youre bad at draft i dont think i ever drafted white even once.
>>98331463>Points out actual problems.>"REEE UR JUST BAD!!!"Why is it that tasteless retards like yourself are so predictable? It's like you're all reading off the same script.
>>98331465It just seems like you dont know what you are talking about is all. Ill admit the bonus sheet was bad but i dont recall ever having a problem with anything but ragavan. I drafted the set like 40 times dude.
>>98331515>I drafted the set like 40 times dude.Name one interesting decision you had to make during any game.
>>98331520Uhhh i dunno black mages rod probably
>>98331189why not Koishi?
>>98329461>One of the teams is bugs that become vehicles>Some of the other vehicles clearly resemble bugs>This is the only vehicle that is technically a bugThey couldn't do a single goddamn thing right with this set, could they?
>>98331940Kek. I like skysovereign
>>98331442>Forcing Wx was the only good option Tell me you didn't play the format without telling me you didn't play the format.
I feel nothing for UB.
>>98332286What do they eat
>>98331320Sounds comfy. I vaguely agree with the suggestions not to send him down the path of unrestraint cardboard consoomer autism, but it's still a nice hobby and a good way to spend time together, much better that than most other things he might end up doing.They've started releasing prebuilt standard decks this year that are reasonably good to play against each other and cost about $20 each. I'd recommend picking those up, maybe adjusting the weaker ones a little to get them on par with the others, and that way you'll have a few decently robust decks to play against each other. The jumpstart/starter kit decks tend to get a bit unsatisfying before long, they don't synergise all that well and you end up relying on topdecks every game, something with a bit more consistency and power tends to be more rewarding.Don't go for boosters, they'll give you a scattershot assortment of mostly useless cards and you'll be teaching your son to get hooked on overpriced dopamine hits. Just buy singles if you want to expand your collection, or prebuilt decks with reasonably good cards that synergise well with each other.
>>98332494Souls probably.
>>98332286This guy has a cool alt art
>>98332563that's neat
>>98332578Looks like goatse head
Ahoy /tg/, this may be a retarded question. Is there a good resource to print / order proxies of classic MTG cards?My friend is an indie filmmaker and wants to include some Magic in a few shots. Ive scoured Etsy and a few other sites but havent found a good source. Also, legality wise… Is it? I assume selling fake cards is a no-no but buying / using them is whatever
>>98332874https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1104867472This guy speaks English well and does cheap proxies. You have to supply the card images yourself if you specifically want original prints, otherwise you give him the names and he sends you random ones. If his listings are down you may need to contact him, he sometimes takes them down if he's not operating currently but last I checked he's active on Taobao. Keep in mind that he does blank backs and you have to pay a little extra if you want the normal cardback printed. MPC is also an option but is too convoluted and expensive for your use case.Depending on budget you could also try ordering from Bootlegmage (if you're in the US), or Usea, Ron or BL. Noone cares about legality for this stuff unless you're importing and selling wholesale quantities. If you don't specifically need P9 etc you can just buy cheap bulk that noone wants.
>>98332874>>98332897Fuck the Chinese. Find a print shop next to you, instead. You can get pngs of cards from scryfall.
>>98331368How angry would you be if Star Trek doesn't have Spacecrafts or planets because it was made before EOE.
>>98332936NTA but this is going to look laughably fake.
>>98332874Nigga why buy chink fakes (about 2 bucks each since people use them to proxy 50 bucks cards) when you could just find cheap bulk cards at a LGS?
>>98332951No it won't. Unless you want to fake the holo as well.
I have returned to Arena out of boredom and haven't really played since FF and Edge of Eternity, standard looks very bad so I figured I'd try out Brawl. Tell me WHY that shitty Alchemy stuff that ruined Historic is allowed in Brawl? Standard Brawl is kind of bland but is there really no way to just dodge Alchemy now besides Standard, Pioneer, and Standard Brawl?
>>98332993>Tell me WHY that shitty Alchemy stuff that ruined Historic is allowed in Brawl?because before timeless, historic was the "play all of your cards in the client" format and by the time timeless came out we already had years worth of alchemy cards from which casuals built decks around, so removing alchemy cards from historic wasn't even a consideration since it would result in rugpulling a bunch of casuals who did not know any better>Standard Brawl is kind of bland but is there really no way to just dodge Alchemy now besides Standard, Pioneer, and Standard Brawl?pretty much, it's no coincidence that pioneer is the most played bo3 format in the client, the bo1 casuals stick to historic brawl and standard, all the paper players flock to pioneer to dodge rotation and alchemy cards
>professor pulls out an ink eyes statue in his latest videobased based BASED
>>98333044I love that statue, I'm so glad I was able to get one
>>98331159Next thread.
>>98332874>Is there a good resource to print / order proxies of classic MTG cards?Acetone wipe the front face of basic lands. Pre-M15 is best, as they changed inks in M15 and it's harder to wipe thereafter.Print your cards on transparency paper and apply them with clear silicone glue or superglue.
>>98332966Just shut up when real people are talking next time, ok? You clearly have zero standards.
>>98332897>still buying fakes from AliExpress like it's 2012Nigger, you can just buy them on Etsy and shit nowadays. Underground Sea is literally based in California today. Ever since WotC legally declared all proxies should be legal outside of literal sanctioned events nobody in the world should have ever cared to hide these listings again.
>>98333429You're a nigger buying chinkshit.
>>98333466You're a LITERAL nigger advocating for people to play with pieces of A4 copy paper stolen from the library instead of genuine cardstock. Holograms optional, pffft.
>>98333479>of A4 copy paper stolen from the library instead of genuine cardstock.You are a buffoon. You fucking imbecile. You never been to a proper print shop. You think they are printing with inkjets. You don't know what paper gms means. You idiot. Fuck you.
>>98331361Please explain how Final Fantasy wasn't a good draft set.
>>98333489it wasn't fun
>>98333492Counterpoint: it was
does anyone make plastic MTG proxies?
>>98333509I print out art of the card and glue it on a basic whenever i proxy something.
>>98333509>From the moment I understood the weakness of carboard, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of resin. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Polymer.
TQ
>>98333509My custom Fallout deck was made on that stuff, it feels nice. Feels nice just having a reason not to use sleeves anymore for once, I miss those days. But uhh yeah, oogah boogah Chinaman get out or something.
>>98329912saw mtg:marvel on sale at the local gas station*sigh*
I'm trying to figure out some cards to buy up as Star Trek speculation. Any changeling or stun counter support worth looking at? I could maybe see some phasing too.
>>98333550Were there spikes in cards for Spiderman and TMNT? Because Star Trek will be the same level of flop, if not worse.
Thread QuestionThis bad boy won me so many drafts.
only 6 months to go bros, standard is finally going to be free from these broken sets
>Standard will be free from Magic
>Star trek is mtgJesus fucking christ. I can't wait for captain picard to fucking smash an elf with his loxodon warhammer. Or some klingons to pilot a fucking clown car straight at the enemy planeswalker's face.
>>98333616>All these retarded ass shit, broken as fuck garbage sets all at once.The designers legit just don't give a fuck about the game lmao.inb4>"We're extending Standard another year!"
>>98333489I literally already did.>>98331442Reminder that the opposite of rose-tinted glasses is zoomer brainrot.
>>98333642What if they make him his own type and it's literally just Q? Q type cards cannot be removed from the battlefield?
>>98333638Picard will be the new center of the tier 0 Fantasticar vintage deck chuddie and there's nothing you can do about it
>>98333616Only 3 more years until Star Trek rotates, but next year's My Little Pony set will around until 2030
>>98333616call me when avatar rotates
>>98333509mpc has a plastic option
>>98333616>WOE>LCI>MKM>OTJliterally nothing other than black's 2 cmc instant removal is leaving with those, and lmao @ anyone trying to play black in current year (I am one of them)sure a few of the annoying broken bullshit cards in izzet masturbation leave with bloomburrow, but jeskai lessons is already better than pure izzet and loses nothingwhite aggro loses sheltered by ghosts, so GW cub piles will be a bit worse into other creature decks but that's about it for duskmourne
>>98333657They'll make him an avatar.
>>98333526cardboard is resistant to most chemicals.>>98333548dark times
>>98333942It's absolutely shredding my UW control.No More Lies, Three Steps, Get Lost, and Restless.It's going to need a lot in upcoming sets to have any chance of being able to rebuild.
why are commander players such downies? >think two are playing legacy because its legacy night and say hi>its 2 commantards playing a 1v1>ask if they have trades>actually feel insulted when I lay down my mat and they ask if I want to play>one guy is playing iron man and the other spongebob>guy has actual my little pony cards>what the fuck is wrong with this game man>"yeah I dont play legacy because its a solved format and its too expensive to make new decks"why are they like this
>>98334201>one guy is playing iron man and the other spongebobExcuse me, sorry? I think you meant to say "Both guys are playing Magic: The Gathering."
>>98334201>yeah I dont play legacy because its a solved formatFACTS
>"Check out this awesome new Balloon Man combo deck in Standard!!!!">Look inside>It's Talent + Boomerang slop.>Never even uses the combo.Every fucking time.
>>98333616>The final goal is magic sets becoming less than UB garbageCant wait, surely constructed becoming Cummander officially will be great.
>>98333044Unironically based.
AHHHHHHHH EVERY FUCKING DECK IN STANDARD IS JUST THE SAME DECK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>98335012Stop playing arena. It is rigged and they match you with the same type of deck (if you don't pay you get your worst matchup)
>>98333485No, you
>>98333688Can't wait! /)
>>98333688>Only 3 more years until Star Trek rotates,
>>98335252It will be a new golden age of magic for those three years. Star Trek will save Magic. Lol.
>>98335279Shuttle Craft to Enterprise!Shuttle Craft to Enterprise!Star Trek: Universes Beyond is approaching the shuttle bay! Choo choo!
>>98335279It's been a long road...
>>98335313GETTING FROM THERE TO HERE
Star Trek Will Save Magic(STWSM)
>>98335279>Playing Klingons, Aang, Spider-Ham, Palantir, Iron Man and Leo's technique in Standard all at the same timeWhere things gone so wrong?
>>98335359>PalantirI, too, can't wait for WotC's inevitable "Real World Heroes of Business and Paragons of Virtue" set!
>>98335363when you let edhsissies get all the control over your game, femboi.
>>98335359>Where things gone so wrong?When nobody decided on doing a WWE Universes Beyond.
>>98335436This but MLB UB, that will surely target the right audience.
>he has a problem with Star Trek when it's just EoE2 (EoE was one of the best sets in years)
I really think the 5 year rotation for Foundations was awesome for Standard. Llanowar elves being in half of all games for 5 years is a vast improvement. We should extend rotation for all UB sets to five years too, so we can all enjoy our favorite anime characters like Badgermole Cub and Namor the Sub-Mariner even longer!
>>98335359By forgetting to mention final fantasy you actually answered your own question. High fantasy UB works, everything else does not.They should be doing shit like monster hunter, diablo, or elder scrolls instead.I don't think most people even remember than D&D is UB either, because obviously as another high fantasy wizards IP it fits like a glove.
>>98335567Begone, shill.
>>98335567Yeah but the problem is they are not doing that nor seem to be the main focus of UB we have Marvel sets prepared till 2030 and who knows who other shitty boomer IPs that don't fit Magic at all they will use in 2027....
>>98335436>>98335455Did anyone ever play the card game they made it was actually pretty fun.
>>98335359when they failed to do a dbz set. i need to cast goku or a kamehameha.
>>98329948I want a format that is a combination of all the standard blocks. Decks would need to be legal in any standard in historyI think that would be really interesting and allow for a lot more varied decks
>>98335693>I think that would be really interesting and allow for a lot more varied decksIt would be Vivi Cauldron packing extra countermagic vs Jar.
I want a format without UB.
>>98335704Woah there, buddy, that's a tall ask.
>>98335594D&D already had mtg planes as rulebooks and stuff, so it was barely even a crossover because mtg already exists in the D&D univers.
>>98335696Lets fuckin find out once it's a format
>>98335714I said begone. Viral marketing is cringe, dude.
>>98335718We don't have to find out, it's pretty obvious what decks would shitstomp everything else.Let me guess, you think Siege Rhino could compete with Disciple of the Vault?
>>98335696Let me be clear, a deck has to be legal in a standard block, no decks would get new cards from other blocks>>98335721For one thing, I don't work for wotc, but even if I did, what these posts would be is native marketing, not viral. Read a book you fucking retard.
>>98335704There's quite a few of them. Premodern. Modern 2015. Pure Pioneer. Planar Standard.
>>98335727>For one thing, I don't work for wotc, but even if I did, what these posts would be is native marketing, not viral. Read a book you fucking retard.
>>98335726Yeh, I think it might, and maybe cards from that block that weren't used much would make it into a sideboard to counter whatever is meta
>>98335733>Yeh, I think it might,>Yeah, I think it (siege rhino) might (beat disciple)lmao okie dokie there bud
>>98335736idk so ban disciple, I just wanted to play my old standard decks again, I can just concede against people playing busted decks. If they need the win that mad they can have it, I just want to play
>>98335742>idk so ban disciple, I just wanted to play my old standard decks againTall ask. Best I can do is more UB slop.
>>98335746What is your comment adding to this conversation?
>>98335749Fantasticar.
>>98335516EoE was created specifically to broaden MTGs setting spectrum so star trek (and eventually star wars) wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb (they still do)
>>98335660I mean we already have the Genki-dama
>>98336028Yeah, because Magic didn't already establish that it's a soup of random fiction tropes after Kamigawa, Ravnica, New Capenna, Innistrad, Kaladesh, Ixalan...
>>98336316yep, yep all those planes known for their heavy scifi vibes and galactic aesthetic...
PlayPremodern
>>98333616This will be the last year where standard is majority in universe sets.
>>98336316>KamigawaFantasy - Japan>RavnicaFantasy - Huge Magic Renaissance City>New CapennaFantasy - Angels and demons and mobsters >InnistradFantasy - Gothic Vampires and Werewolves >KaladeshFantasy - indian mythology steampunk>IxalanFantasy - mesoamericans+dinosaurs vs conquistador vampires
>>98334183oh those sets leaving absolutely fuck over people not rigidly playing tier 1 meta decksso many of the fun decks I have just poof out of existence. but they barely qualify as jankbut in terms of making the game better? you WILL play against cum-soaked izzet lessons that shits out jeskai rev on 5, you WILL play against GX cub shitting out 50 mana on turn 3 and swinging for 500 on turn 4. that entire year has been power crept so hard it might as well have rotated already
>>98337221I mean talent is in blb
>>98337435what if I told you that jeskai lessons and spellementals are better than all the izzet lists that run talentunironically, banning talent would push people to play the stronger decks. its kind of insane that the absolutely degenerate talent+boomerang loops aren't good enough anymore
>>98336460
>>98336485There will be a time when UB is just the norm. People will look back on UW as a relic of the past. Rosewater said they won't do that so it's basically confirmation they will.
>>98337551If he'd said they will would it be confirmation that they won't?
>>98337558Yes, he is a pathological liar.
>>98329852>Pauper is slowI forgot turn 3 wins are "slow", now
>>98331368>unironically calling them schizosFuck you have low IQ you fucking faggot.Not every suspicion makes someone "schizo". Words have no meaning to you.
>>98336991Kaladesh didn't even have any Indian Mythology.
>>98337821Definitely had the aesthetics.
>>98337924Only the extra arms.
>>98337946Lots of elephants too.
>>98337967That's not mythological that's just real life.
>>98335516>xe liked the they/themby setlol
>>98335567>FF is le approved UB!Can't believe you're still trying to push this narrative. FF is pure undiluted slop and you only like it because it's Japanese. I'll bet dollars to donuts you like Neon Dynasty too.
>>98338010Why are you like this?
What will be the absolute red line for you anons? Real world Historical UB? My Little Pony legal in all formats UB? Maybe some TV show like the Office legal UB?
>>98338187I don't think there's any UB theme that would make me stop playing since I'm here mainly for the gameplay, but I guess if they ruined all formats with UB Companions 2.0 I would most likely take a break until they fixed it
>>98338187Why do they keep making so much MLP shit? I wouldn't be shocked to see a full MLP set next year
>>98337967elephants hate jeets and have higher iq than themthey're allowed
>>98338261Hasbro owns it.
>>98338187They’ve already passed the red line for me. I played paper Dandan a month ago and play my custom cubes in forge. I buy secret lairs if I like the cards but that’s pretty much the extent of my interest in the game.
>>98337605>Magic is a game in flux.This is the cope of a bad designer. Good designers know their vision and hold to it, able to identify which parts of their project ought not change.Constant second-guessing, finagling and micro-alterations is a signal of someone who lacks confidence. Mark should not be in the position he is in today, he is a failure and bad at design.
>>98338187I'm in the process of selling most of my collection right now. There wasn't really a red line that made me do it. I'm just not having fun playing anymore. I'm not sure if that's because of the nonstop release of new sets, making the focus of the game be UB instead of actual planes or something else.
>>98338199>>98338413This. When i saw this shit, i thought "yeah, this game isn't for me anymore and will only get worse" and oh boi, how right i was, now i'm here just to see the show from the barrier.
>>98338187>Real world historical UBthey already have that
>>98338533ftfy
>>98338542HONK HONK! OUT OF THE WAY PEASANTS!
>>98338553DOOT DOOTIT'S FANTASTIC!!
>>98338553>"Damn Reed, you really built a fantastic car!"
Owari da.
>>98338553I would literally slap the designers of this shit
>>98336991>>Ravnica>Fantasy - Huge Magic Renaissance CityRemember when Ravnica, literal Balkan word, was based on Slavc shit, with architecture based on Prague, rusalkas and other local fantasy creatures and multiple names being "Szczjrk"
>>98336991>Ravnica>Fantasy - Huge Magic Renaissance City>Renaissancebaka
Why does he wear the mask?
>>98338702Because he is a big boi
Look at this thread. This game is absolutely dead. I'm so glad I dropped everything and went all in on Premodern.
>>98338831>Look at this thread. This game is absolutely dead.Turns out it is actually fun to beat a dead horse.
>>98338836All the fun is gone. It's rather depressing to be honest. People here aren't even in denial anymore. They have become bitter and resentful. You can sense that they are losing something that they hold dear is sllipping away from them and there is nothing they can do.
I keep seeing Maro say how the new sets are huge successes and shit but I hardly see anyone playing Standard events where I live. Who is buying all this product?
>>98338889>Who is buying all this product?Stores. WotC doesn't know what hapens later down the retail chain
>>98338843
>>98338896sorry, meant for >>98338889
>>98338843>All the fun is gone. It's rather depressing to be honest. People here aren't even in denial anymore. They have become bitter and resentful. You can sense that they are losing something that they hold dear is sllipping away from them and there is nothing they can do.Yes. It's present across every aspect of the miserable modern monoculture. Film, TTRPGs, literature, music, visual arts, architecture. All things have been degrading, since the World Wars. It's just that, what we once had was so great, it's taken this long for people to notice the fall. It took this long for things to get genuinely bad, rather than simply worsening.What is happening now is the beginning of a new Renaissance. As people realize more that the modern chaff has no value, what is left when we shed it (Aurthurian legend, Celtic Folklore, Greek and Roman epic, Tolkien, Gothic architecture, Baroque music, etc.) will be just as strong as it always was.It had to happen. The decline of MTG is just a symptom. A hilarious, pathetic circus of a symptom. Watching things like MTG die, and learning to laugh at the fools behind it, hurling themselves toward hell, is great for the spirit.
>>98338831This but with Arena.
>>98338889Magic has largely moved to the Pokemon model of selling cardboard exclusively to collectors. The difference being that Pokemon has the decency to print power at low rarities so top tier meta decks are only like $80~ for the few people that actually play the game.
100% of the time you use Thoughtseize and see a Thoughtseize, you take the Thoughtseize no matter what else is in their hand.What a mistake of a card.
>>98333550this comes to mind, although it's only edh playable
>>98333550If it has spacecraft (but not shit this time) as a key mechanic then duskmourne survivors are likely to synergise very nicely with them
Station > crew
>>98339188Star Trek Will Save Magic
>>98338889potemkin
>>98339198
>>98339235is it bad that I mentally did the command grab?
>>98338831>went all in on PremodernAnd how is that going?
>>98339261Pretty great. I have almost twenty decks now. I already ordered cards for more decks. There's a place where they organize a small torunament every week. It's a healthy format with a suprising variety.
>>98339270Based, post pics
>>98338889NEBRASKA BOOM, BOZO!
>>98339291Some other time.
>>98338477Imagine being that artist.>Yes! I finally get to draw a magic card, I wonder what cool card they assigned to me
>>98339416>I finally get to draw a magic cardI think David Alvarez started getting commissions for MTG sometime around ONE.
>>98339430It was a joke and not meant to be taken literally. Thank you for understanding humor.
>>98338889>Who is buying all this product?Nobody. He is lying.
>>98339524
>>98339556
>>98339556>"by GMV"GMV is price-adjusted. This is "Which product made the most money" not "which product sold the best".
>>98339563Yeah and what do you think Hasbro cares about the most?
>>98339567Is does not equal ought.
>>98339571No, but saying nobody buys the product is silly.
>>98339580It's accurate.
>>98339599It clearly is not.
>>98339604Source?
>>98339607Tcgplayer.
>>98339620Trustworthy news source, not schizo microblog.
>>98339623No the point that this guy>>98339524Which is probably you, uses tcgplayer as a source to prove the opposite. One fucking snapshot.Also it's the stores that buy the product.
>>98329912Yes, find a local group that plays planar standard. Its absolutely awesome experience. Same for edh/dc my local group simply agreeed not to play any ub cards. One guy collects it but just dont play them against us.Standard is actually quite cheap that way, drafting is mostly sos, tarkir which have been amazing, we still got plenty of boxes to last for the next year to play even if the retards at hasbro keep pushing slop again.And just we are rude towards ub players at this point. We are not playing at any lgs just in an inn or rented space where others play 40k. One time a dude came in since we are regulars who play standard format and asked if he could join us, we asked do you have any ub cards in your deck? Yeah then dont. Next week he brought in a dragon deck and was fine to play against.
>>98339696that's impossible
>>98339696There's no way.
>3 weeks untill hobbit shit>2.5 months until evil gay harry potter land>3.5 months until a worse EoEWhat are you looking forward to
>>98339864>What are you looking forward toDeath.
>>98338477>>98338553>>98338702Custom cards belong on reddit. We’re discussing Magic here.
This joke doesn't work anymore.
>It's unironically having to run only basics in every 2c deck and risk mana screws because it is a higher overall winrate than eating Sunspine Lynx lava axesoh boy I love numagic
If WoTC beheaded their existing leadership, cancelled all UB sets and contracts, then released a tightly designed set centered around an original plane with 90s style artwork, blood, gore, partial nudity, and no post-2010s cringe, would that be enough?Would you come back?
>>98339696He kinda looks like my City of Heroes character
>>98339904>City of Heroes
>>98339696I'm guessing there is some dumb combo to make him a permanent copy instead of end of turn
>>98339904>>98339913>He kinda looks like my City of Heroes characterWell damn, I didn't know /mtg/ was so cultured.
>>98339556https://seller.tcgplayer.com/blog/top-selling-sealed-products-june-2026This article is just saying that MSH collector boxes did the biggest sales numbers of any TCG product during the specific period of June 1 to June 30. Magic products are almost always in the #1 slot the month they release. That doesn't mean that MSH sold better than EoE or ECL. Obviously those sets didn't have huge sales numbers in the June 1 - June 30 2026 period considering they were 5 and 10 months old, respectively. >>98339620https://seller.tcgplayer.com/blog/top-selling-magic-the-gathering-sets-right-now-03-11-2026And this is just saying that TMT was the best selling magic set in the specific period Feb 4 - March 5. Again, that doesn't contradict the notion that it sold worse than any other set.
>>98338889>>98338894not even stores, distributors who then sell to stores, who in turn try to sell to actual players (or scalpers)wotc is like 5 layers removed from whether anyone actually buys the cards to play with or even collect. thats why spiderman is the best selling set of all time despite it selling so poorly the costco bundles were cheaper than just buying the packs individually. distributors bought shitloads (all wotc cares about) but the stores that bought from the distributors couldn't move spiderman at all because no real humans wanted it
it would be so funny to see this reprinted in reality fractured only to for it to see 0 play in standard/pioneer
>>98340109It probably wouldn't even see play in draft lmfao
>>98340119I'm pretty sure the -1 would be good in a lot of uw tempo decks and those have been great in a lot of recent sets.it sure ain't no TDM Elspeth, though.
>Screaming Nemesis is still legal in Pioneer.
>>98339923Copy fantasticar and make 32 power of tokens
>>98339874The custom card general keeps dying we already agreed we post them here.
>>98340179they need to print swords to plowshares into pioneerwhere's pioneer horizons when you need it
playpremodern
>>98339874>Custom cards belong on reddit.unless you use AI to create art for themthose fuckers hate that
>>98340511But you guys told me it was a blue wankfest and that aggro was non-viable...
>>98339261Nearly every premodern card I bought like 4 years ago has at least 5x'd in price, the only one I can think of that didn't was Recurring Nightmare and it's pretty much the same price as I paid, maybe a bit more.
>>98340622Goblins are fine.
Goodness gracious, lady, please, stop screaming!
>>98340669>she's hysterical, shap her!
>>98340661I don't want to play goblins...
>>98340071The way I see it, the main people eating the costs here are the small stores because they're basically obligated to. The big retailers have the power to dial back their inventory if they're not seeing the sell-through. But the small stores are often operating on slim margins, so there has to be a point where they just can't take it anymore. Plus a lot of them have been closing down over the years.How long does this go on?
>>98340669>for the rest of the gameNice Alchemy card, paperbrosOG Lorwyn block would have never, back then cards had soul.....
I can't believe I was going to make a joke card called "Priority Boarding" and this nigger fucking FAGGOT set Unfinity already made a card with that name.God. I could fucking vomit.
>>98341154What would your card do?
>>98341222I re-named it
>>98341225Now I'm not sure, but does a non-creature vehicle still have the ability "flying"? Or is it like the power and toughness where that text is only relevant while it's a creature?
Make fucking Power Rangers set, then make fucking Masters of Universe set.HASBRO FUCKING OWN THE LICENSE, goddammed retards of the coastI would buy those before I touch Marvel shit.
>>98341255it's not relevant to any effects I can think of but it's literally on the card and is an ability so I think it works even if the vehicle isn't crewed.>>98341284wotc will officially rename voltron decks to megazord decks
>>98341293Yeah I'm genuinely unsure, I think it's a subsection of the rules space where they just deliberately haven't explored it, both because it's fiddly and ambiguous and also that 'Vehicle' is already such a narrow subsection of the card space that there's no need for something that only works on a few of them like a Plummet or Doom Blade.
>>98341255Based on Arena yes.
>>98341284>The yellow ranger is turned into an Indian woman>the black ranger is turned into an Asian man>The pink ranger is turned into a black woman>the white ranger is turned into a black manNo thanks
>>98341441Red Ranger is a black womanPink Ranger is the sole white.
I been takin dabs all day and i just thought man you guys really do complain a lot and fuck you. Go play magic or some other game and quit being a raging nignog fuckin homos.
>>98341472Nah, the red ranger would be a trannie
>>98340109He's better than hero of dominaria thoughever
>>98341624very untruetucking any type of nonland permanent is much better than bouncing a creature, t5f also lets you hold up 2 mana counters while replacing himself the same turn he comes down
>>98341524This is 4chan bruh
the only fun magic formats to ever exist are draft, cube, sealed and kitchen table. everything else is rampant with try hard netdecking
>>98341689what about judge tower
>>98341441>>98341472At least check your sources, lorelets. The yellow ranger would be trans. It was male in the original Japanese series and female in the US adaptation.
>>98341701implying wotc cares about the lore of other properties (see black aragorn and black riders of rohan)
>>98341689This is an unpopular opinion but I've had a lot of fun with commander when it's not taken seriously. Just slap some shit together from your collection. Maybe that's just kitchen table magic.
>>98341524>Go play magicNo thanks. Even the new Star Wars tcg is better than UB-magic.Fire magic is shit either way. I did play a pre modern event last month.(Wish fags played more "historical" extended formats)>>98341689Even draft is netdecking on arena (or on the sets were one archetype has more than 50% vs other archetypes)
>>98341789can you really netdeck in draft? you can try to force a color pair, but if you don't open/get passed the right cards it won't really work out.
>>98341835>If you look up a guide you're cheatingIt's this retarded mentality.
Ok guys, I already got 2 paupers: UW Glitters (yeah, yeah, I know) and UR delver. Yesterday finished the 3rd: WRG slivers. Sad things is, the pauper scene at my city is FULL, and I mean, FULL of cheaters. How do you deal with them when even the shopowner empowers them with classics like: "i didn't see nuffin'" and "today we're out of cameras"
>>98341899cheat back harder
>>98341912I thought that, but I don't know man, I really feel "wrong" by going this way... Also, I wanna make "big" in MTG so I must be good at spot cheating, not cheating itself..
>>98341835In arena there is a add on that tell what cards in your draft pack were part of winning draft decks (or something like that).I think it is called Arena companion or something like that. So you just pick the best card (more win ratio) then just go for recommended picks until the end of the draft, and then go with recommended deck.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTjSDtT0B3YOn forced drafts. There were formats that if you were the only retarded forcing an "archetype" you would have an easy time on either MTGO or MTG arena. (M21 you could easily farm wins by picking the 1 mana flying fae that can draw a card ETB if you control another)(1st pick and whenever you saw it)(could be wrong on the core set tho)(eldraine you could force the merfolk mill 4 and have easy wins)(Ikoria with cycling)(etc)
>>98341981I watch the drafting portion and then skipped to the end to see how he did. He went 3-3. Even said that the bot that was recommending cards was making bad selections. I don't think that video is really proving your point.
>>98342027I picked the first video on the search from a set that cards play well with synergy. And keep in mind that he is doing 0 decisions while "drafting", most people when they see there is a better color open would start drafting that color but the ai gives suggestions based on what you have drafted before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jopRBwjsBxc(foundations 7 wins)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMHHaLbFq8g(avatar , 3 3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnQOh7dDusA(final fantasy , 6-3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kWOc9oRWs0(nu strixhaven , 1-3)(multicolor first pick, doesn't change colors regardless of availability)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adn_e16sMkM(nu tarkir, 1-3)(multicolor 1st pick, same as before)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onNO24Zj-AU(nu eldraine, 4-3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4TtzSjM91I(nu dominatia , 7 wins)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbIynKePlDY(thunder junction, 5-3)(3 colors)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG2bkM38NEM(brotherswar, 4-3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CzQA8BXpI8(all will be one, 7 -1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQh27DH50d8(nu eldraine alchemy, not following the bot all the way, 1-3)(3 color deck, and a bit of arena bs)imho if you don't follow 100% the ai and actually take a few decisions for yourself (like 1st and 2nd pick) you can probably build a good deck by just following the ai on the optimal pick.
>They announce a Universes Within set>Reprint the desirable UB cards as in universe characters and artwork>Draftable setHow would you respond?
>>98342453Apathy.MTG is dead. Who cares.
>>98342453Well I'm not a fan of current card design regardless. There's a very small number of UB cards that I would even want to have UW versions of, and none that I've even thought are cool enough to bother proxying.
>>98342620kek wtf
As someone who has designed custom sets, I am really just shocked at how bad this game is in comparison to how trivial it is to make it not bad.You can literally just throw random vanilla creatures and basic spells into a format and the game works great. You actually have to put effort into making it as terrible as it is, as consistently as it has been.
>>98342154Draftsmith is really awful thougheverbeit, it's a good resource to get a grasp of a brand new format if you have 0 prep on it but it's generally really unreliable and doesn't really count as netdecking since you don't actually win with it.The comments and base score are also based on what some fat retards said and commented during spoiler season rather than after actual play, so they'll sometimes be very idealistic: "This set seems to have a lot of X, so a card that counters doing X will probably be very good!". Or abominations like picrel.I definitely used to rely on it a bunch when I was a newfaggerino, and it helped a bit to explain synergies I may have missed at a glance (such as Warp creatures being good with EoE ships) but it's far inferior to "just play what's open or force what you like"
>>98342748That's the issue though. It's simple enough to design a draft format. The trouble is when you try to simultaneously design a draft format, a standard format, eternal formats, EDH, and bait for the whales. The triangle of collectors, drafters, and constructed players was never easy to balance but they genuinely seem to have either given up or rushed the development pipeline to the point that anything other than an unbalanced slurry is impossible.
>>98342884>7 sets in one yearYeah they fucked up.
>>98342884>The trouble is when you try to simultaneously design a draft format, a standard format, eternal formats, The triangle of collectors, drafters, and constructed players was never easy to balancMTG had a design principle called the "Escher's Staircase", formulated in response to the balance apocalypse of Mirrodin, that kept basically every format balanced for actual decades straight. It is actually very easy to maintain: Keep each card within a set power budget. Do not put many high-budget cards of the same archetype into the same environment. Saying it's hard or impossible to balance MTG is just gaslighting. They literally figured out the system and it worked for decades.
>>98342919>kept basically every format balanced for actual decades straight*one decade at most
>>98342929It was more than 20 years with a single hiccup for Jace.
>>98342934anon, 20 years after mirrodin is 2023
>>98342943Yes, and?
>>98342947if you think energy and companion are okay then i do not trust your opinions on magic set design
>>98342948>if you think energy and companion are okay then i do not trust your opinions on magic set design16 years. 2 decades. Same difference.
>>98342919You have nostalgia glasses. Mirrodin was when things started their inevitable downhill trajectory.
>>98343041>You have nostalgia glasses. Mirrodin was when things started their inevitable downhill trajectory.>"YOU have nostalgia glasses">"Actually, it was better BEFORE when you say it got good!"You are dumb.
If I Erode my own indestructible creature, I get to find a land, right? Like what happens with Wildfire on the artifact dual lands.
>>98343087>If I Erode my own indestructible creature, I get to find a land, right?Yep.
>>98343090Nice, might come in handy.
>>98343043No, I am objectively correct.
Return to New Capenna
Return to New York block:War of YonkersEscape from HarlemAftermath: the Leotardo legacy
>>98343289This goes great in my GG Allin commander deck!
Jurassic Park Standard UB when?
>>98343326Sam Neill just died btw
>>98343289What's the correct order for the New York Block Constructed? The old convention of newest first? Marvel, then TMNT, and last Spiderman
>>98343403what does order have to do with block constructed?
>>98343406I meant draft. Fuck me.
>>98343289Pizza Hut UB when?
>>98330488i got cucked so tell me anons, whats the best site to proxy it that almost looks like the real thing?
for real, how many times can Maro pump and dump UB at stores by going "this is going to be the next LoTR trust me bro"
>>98343326I wish this was printed in standard
You have been given the task of saving MtG by Mark Rosewater and Wizards of the Coast. What is the first thing that you foot help complete this task?
>>98343959Shoot WotC, Mark Roseater and Hasbro directives
>>98343959Separate MTG and EDH completely. MTG cards are not legal in EDH and vice versa.There. Most of MTG problems gone.
>Necro vs RebelsI didn't know I could have nightmare flashbacks to two things at the same time. Very cool.
>>98342871>doesn't really count as netdecking since you don't actually win with it.ntsabut are you implying that everyone who netdeck get good results?The schizo has a point that draftsmith is indeed a bit of netdecking if the guy is actively using it to take decisions during draft. Not being as retarded as the youtuber or anon but if someone uses it to get most of the picks after the 5th or 6th the deck will probably be more consistent (overall) than a new player trying to get signals focusing too much on a rare/mythic.I mean, those type of players would do alot worse irl than they do in arena mostly because deck consistency (and being able to disclose what cards are good in the format).
I HATE REBELS SO FUCKING MUCH AND I HATE BEING REMINDED HOW MUCH I HATE REBELS FUCK YOU GOLDFISH
>"get heemed by Vivi cauldron" simulator
>>98344228Look at this boomer. Doesn't he know that drawing cards is FUN and infinite value is FUN and playing Chess with 16 Queens is FUN!?
>>98344228Nev's Disk staring at Parralax Wave with both players approaching both stabilizing and securing lethal was one of the coolest board states I have seen in a long while.Don't get me wrong, Magic was shit back then, but it's crazy how even in the shittest of the shit old eras you still get confounding game states that actually require you to navigate them accurately.
>>98344228Why are both of them such faggot corposlaves?
>>98344343Because it pays the bills.
>>98344343They made the classic mistake of turning their passion into a job
>>98344228Watching how incredible the gameplay is with these absolute fucking state shitter garbage old fogey boomer decks is a hilarious humiliation ritual on the current game.
New thread>>98344674>>98344674>>98344674
>>98342919LARP.This was never true and if you read the article or even played the fucking game at the time you would know there were multiple important qualifiers>This ONLY applied to Standard because it didn't retroactively erase strong cards from previous sets>It was entirely about making creatures not unplayably shit while instants/sorceries shat out value to the point there were decks running 1 copy of Morphling as their only creatureBy this metric, they are still using the balance philosophy because Standard is not currently looking like Urza's Saga with sorceries that draw 7 and untap 5 lands. It's just that he stopped talking about it when the majority of players intake the game through Coomander and trying to discuss this would only make him look retarded because that shithole "format" still has Sol Ring legal.
