Previous: >>98328874Beloved Format Culture Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's your favorite part of Rhystic Study?
>>98338471>What's your favorite part of Rhystic Study?I run a hand size punishment deck
>TQ: What's your favorite part of Rhystic Study?you mean parts, surelyoh, where do i start?>forever the shame of the RC that it slipped by them unnoticed>will forever be legal because wotc needs it to sell collector boosters>forever a talking point for people to unban X card from the banlist because none of them other for contract from below are stronger than rhystic>the only thing keeping cedh not 100% turbo meta, but at the same time drags the game because la-dee-da cedh can't accept that draws should be losses because doing so exposes its inherently gambling nature (seat order, etc) and cedh can't have that>exposes the hypocrisy of casuals that they hate stapleslop but can't stand being at the b2 table and can't let go of GCs thus they keep playing at B3+ where rhystic is legal and they get stomped
>>98338512Actually in bracket 2 rhystic study is fair because people only play 1 or 2 spells a turn, so you won't draw much. Also the cards you draw won't be very powerful so it's fine.
>TQThat if it ever gets banned it will probably be the death of the format. People are just that bad.
>>98338512>exposes the hypocrisy of casuals that they hate stapleslop but can't stand being at the b2 table and can't let go of GCs thus they keep playing at B3+ where rhystic is legal and they get stompedyeah bro I hate stapleslop, glad they put them all on the GC list so our b2 games could be heckin wholesomeANYWAY...>turn 1 bloodstained mire into volcanic island>sol ring arcane signet
>>98338575yep exactly as sheldon intended, cry more
I won a game tonight. Catacylsm is a good card.Did you win anon?
>>98338592I didn't get to play because everyone wanted to watch UFC instead. At least I finished my Dr.Eggman deck yesterday
>>98337652>Hey wouldn't you all rather make 100% of the profits and have our own multibillion dollar franchise instead of begging other companies to let us rent their IPs?Of course this would all be irrelevant since UB is not the fundamental problem with Magic, and to actually make Magic a viable brand not reliant on squeezing dry a half million sunk cost captured millenial manchild paypiggies you'd basically have to reboot the entire game from top to bottom which is never ever going to happen.
>>98338695she cute
>>98338695rebooting the lore to make it for chuds is easy, just fire all the trannies in renton wa
>>98338732>have to erase the multiverse shit and keep the setting to one planet/plane>have to erase 99% of the "legendaries" and completely remove the concept of planeswalkers>have to completely rework the color pie, both mechanically and lore wise, possibly introducing a whole new color to help balance>have to slaughter sacred cows by giving each color access to fundamental game mechanics like efficient draw and ability to remove any card type>have to rollback DEI art >have to stop pushing more than a set a quarter>have to kill the investards with consistent reprints to destroy the ponzi scheme of a secondary market that is pushing new blood away from the gameAnd all of that is just basic shit to start with. There's a LOT that would have to be fixed to draw people back into a purely In House Magic the Gathering. None of it will ever be done.
>>98338820>have to rollback DEI art and DEI storytellingthat's all that's needed, mtg's golden age (1993-2003) and silver age (2003-2012) were decent to good times
>>98338820>None of it will ever be done.Good
>>98338820>have to erase the multiverse shit and keep the setting to one planet/planethe multiverse isn't necessarily bad by itself, but the current implementation really sucks. how i would do it>less planes, more developed>no theme park planes that are just x culture. those can all be different regions in the same world, you don't need a whole different plane to have fantasy japan>planes that just can't be part of the same world because of some fundamental trait or because reality just works differently can work (like the abyss where demons come from). even here similar planes can be merged (something like duskmourne can be part of the abyss for example)>beings capable of traveling freely between planes are incredibly rare. but travel between two specific planes can exist, though it's not easy (hard to reach portals, unstable portals, powerful and difficult magic required, the stars need to be right, it's one-way only etc...)
>>98338820>have to slaughter sacred cows by giving each color access to fundamental game mechanics like efficient draw and ability to remove any card typeWhat's funny about this is people like this are only ever talking about black, red, and white. NOBODY wants green to get a board wipe or removal that isn't reliant on creatures. Nobody WANTS blue to get better answers to stuff that slips through the counter spell net. Just say what you mean nigga. You have a mono red deck and you cry like a weak little bitch when someone resolves Authority of the Consuls on turn 1, we know you don't have to hide it.
repostan my q from last thread:>>98338274>>98338282>>98338311
>>98338869to be very honest every color should've had access to everything shaped by that color>black: destroy target enchantment lose life>island: destroy target enchantment but its owner draws cards or you return an island to hand idk
>>98338891There is no reason for this to happen. If you want access to more tools simply play more colors it is not hard and within the design of the game to do so.>b-b-buh red can't kill enchantments I can't play my favorite mono red scrimbloMono color players should not be coddled so hard it overrides design philosophy. Just admit you have a pet black/red/white deck that gets dogwalked every time you pull it out.
>>98338882Yes it works
>>98338919I personally think red should be removed from the game
>>98338919>Mono color players should not be coddled so hard it overrides design philosophy.Similarly mono's design philosophy should not be gimped so hard just because of whiny casuals>print multiplayer-appropriate thoughtseize cards wotc stop being pussies
>>98338919>gee, Black, how come you get to destroy target enchantment?
>>98338951and mind rot too, please :)
>>98338977>>98338919and I forgot my pic...
>>98338951>print multiplayer-appropriate thoughtseize cards wotc stop being pussiesThat has nothing to do with mono color identity or black getting tools not within it's color pie, that could exist it just doesn't and would be used by a lot more than just mono black decks. I've wanted a version of pic related that only does 1 damage to any target for enrage triggers for awhile now but somehow wotc has avoided printing the effect despite being well within red's color pie to get it. Sometimes life just ain't fair like that.
>>98338951Feel like those haven't been printed because it's such a hassle to resolve. You'd need to stop and think on what the best card is to rip for 3 people when you use it.
>>98339003I personally want a small Aether Flash. half price but zaps for 1.Yes, I hate token players.
I'm pretty new but I think Commander damage is kind of stupid>encourages fast commanders instead of big meaty guys when this is supposed to be a slower game compared to Standard>invalidates Lifegain as a mechanic since you can't heal it and stabilize which, again, stops high cost decks from really showing up>you have to keep track of not just one health bar but 4>21 damage feels kind of random a number rather than a nice even 20I dunno, just don't care for it myself so far. Maybe I'll "get" it with more time
>>98338919While true is is pretty gay that mono blue has like none of those issues mono red or white have
>>98339343wait til this guy hears about infect. xe's gonna flip
>>98339343>21 damage feels kind of random a number rather than a nice even 203 hits with the elder dragon makes 21 damage.
>>98339343commander damage is actually what justifies playing big meaty guys as fast (really what you mean are low manacost) commanders are just value engineswhat casuals miss though is that while it's not a good enough mechanic to center your deck around as a primary plan (only a few cards like light-paws are actually worth it), it is a good enough backup plan
Anyone pledged to the RKF kickstarter? I forgot to do so, but it seems like there are still some late pledges available.
>>98338820>Adding a new color when they already can't balance red for two formats at once
>>98339003>Sometimes life just ain't fair like that.weird that you'd hate black killing enchantments then, that's as fair as it can be, as currently each color has trouble with one permanent type>white can't efficiently kill creatures/can kill them but with some drawback>blue has trouble dealing with creatures permanently, countering a creature isn't as easy as it looks especially when counterspells are so time-sensitive>black can't handle artifacts (it would have a better shot at them if it had edh-tier thoughtseize effects)>red can't handle enchantments beyond chaos warp effects>green is still bad at dealing with creatures
>>98338695>>98338732If you ever tried actually writing a story you know that it's way harder than most people think. It is very easy to poke holes in a story someone else wrote and state where it could improved. It's much harder to create said story in the first place.Plus this would be an extraordinarily hard argument to make after having 30 years to develop the story, having undergone multiple soft reboots and retcons, and in that whole time not producing a single hit.Oh yeah and remember that on top of this the story needs to align with the product design so don't think about making your protagonist develop as a character because he needs to be in status quo forever and developing him would mean changing his colors.
>>98339627product design also needs to change, world-hopping every year is just not good IP management as characters are what sells not vistas, which also means writing good characters that are worth being invested on
>>98338820>have to slaughter sacred cows by giving each color access to fundamental game mechanics like efficient draw and ability to remove any card typeThis already exists>B-But it's not as goodYes, that's the point. The colors good at something do it better than other colors. Of course if you want a future where simic has Reanimate, Swords to Plowshares, and Seething Song you're free to think that, but you'd kill the game turning even more decks in homogenous sludge.
>>98338951mf will design this as his custom card for gimmick night then wonder why everyone called him retarded and told him he couldn't play
>>98339645>Similarly mono's design philosophy should not be gimped so hard just because of whiny casualsi'm not saying it should be an easily recurrable creature, but concession accepted
>>98339659Post your Tinybones and/or Tergrid decks to prove you're not nogames.
>>98339670funny how you're whining about those two when the custom card you posted exiles and doesn't work with either
The fix to color pie shit interacting poorly with color identity is unironically changing the hybrid mana rule and printing more hybrid cards.>Current R&DHmm we have this really shitty card that's mostly (color), but is also kinda (other color), I guess since it's mostly (color) we should give it to (color) so that way more EDH decks can run it.>Proposed R&DHmm we have this really shitty card that's mostly (color), but is also kinda (other color), I guess we can make it hybrid because it could fit both.Wow suddenly people aren't forgetting white gets extra combats because all the cards kept going to red.
>>98339677Nogames alarm. Back to Tranny Mage YT comment section you go.
>>98338471>TQI dunno a few weeks back I was able to sell a heavily played one for $80 because some guy at my LGS desperately had to have a copy which was sweet. Paid for a good chunk of my newest deck.
>>98339687>casual being uppity againi bet you hate baral too lol
>>98339689Little Timmy at the LGS whining when you hit him with 5 mana Cancel plays more games than you. Consequently his opinion matters more (although not by much) because he actually plays the game.
>>98339694>i engage with the hobby more in a way that favors me so my opinion matters more!so whales rule the game and thus UB and collector boosters and fomo forever, got it buddy boy haha
>>98339698Yes. If you don't play the game you don't get to be an armchair designer. Glad we could sort this out.
>>98339699>Rudy from Alpha Investments whining that you criticize his business practices buys more cards than you. Consequently his opinion matters more (although not by much) because he actually funds the game.Yes. If you're a proxyfag you don't get to have hot takes. Glad we could sort this out too.
>>98339708Nogames post, opinion discarded.
>>98339711yeah that's right buddy boy you better run lmao
>>98339712I accept your concession.
>>98339715but enough about you thinking exile works with tinybones and tergrid haha you da real nogames nigga
>>983397200 decks posted0 games played7 times BTFO by Gavin himself
>>98339721gavin can't even ban discard like he did mld, imagine a fag having more balls than (You)
>cascade/bullshit of the top till you hit typal>non-lego clones in Ux+>do the thing...twice!anything else or specific for you that while, sometimes barely, manageable makes you roll your eyes
>>98339737i just want to say that if you lack sleep but if you still want to play magic, watching players fiddle with counters and triggers is a good sleeping aid
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
What are some good deck ideas for "you just won the last game decisively, now you want to play the shittiest deck possible to give the other players a chance to win".
>>98339827I love him but he can be kind of a shitter at least how I built him. The main point is that he's not as fast as some of my other decks
>>98339827I just start saccing and recurring the worst artifact creatures you have ever seen.
>>98339827Mine for that is a lifegain deck. You CAN make lifegain into an okay strategy with the right cards, but you can just as easily avoid those cards. And not having black in your deck makes that way fucking easier too.
>>98339725I see more discard cards on the GC list than MLD.
so I'm realizing I'm catching alot of heat from my playgroup because I know the rules. These are mid 40s/30s and they've been playing magic for a long, long time.>guy casts incarnation technique, and he's butthurt at me, gives an opponent a renanimation>opponents boromir comes out first>jund combo butthurt player gets etali and ryona>tell him that all of the spells he casts gets countered because of boromir>gets pissy at me for some reason>guy tutors out dark depths and cheats it with vesuva>inform him that he has to put dark depths in the graveyard before any triggers with vesuva/copy resolve>ass hurt>guy is looping the one ring with airbending and recurring cyc rift>I keep casting the metamorph and copying one ring, also getting protection>opponent has protection from everything>swing at him>have an argument over what protection does, and attacks aren't stopped>kill him via damage can't be prevented>have to explain that APNAP about how triggers and stack work, and that your triggers resolve last, and have to declare targets first. >guy casts a burn spell targeting me despite not being involved in the interaction as he loses
>>98338869>green>boardwipe
>>98339962MLD cards like armageddon (cards that regularly destroy, exile, and bounce other lands, keep lands tapped, or change what mana is produced by four or more lands per player without replacing them, gavin's words not mine) are banned in b3 below and they are a lot more of them out there than the entire gc list just saying
>>98340003>they've been playing magic for a long, long time.>at their kitchen table not at the LGS playing competitivelythat's your answer right there
>>98339827Lifegain pillowfort no wincon
>>98339827Try to do something that's abnormal or more difficult than usual in Commander, for example I have a Grandeur deck and so need one copy of a legendary creature on my board and another in my hand.
>>98339682Or just make it both colors and not hybrid. Designing for commander is retarded.
>>98340151>Designing for commander is retardedand yet casuals want wotc to design cards that fit for commander, that's why so many theft cards have 'you may pay mana as if it's mana of any color', hybrid just triggers people's autism while having to suck it up about nick fury being a 1 mana 5color "because sheldon"
>>98340151They wouldn't have to do weird cut-outs for Commander if hybrid mana didn't have a weird paradoxical effect in Commander.In every other format in the game, hybrid mana is easier to include into a deck. Only in commander does hybrid mana make a card more exclusive.
>>98338592>cataclysm in this heapvs. actual bracket 4s this deck would get eaten alive
>>98340161>buh-buh other shitty design decisions exist!Right, I hate those too.
>>98340161Oh, no, how unfortunate that the commander exclusive deckbuilding restriction would exclusively restrict commander decks. Such a shame.
>>98340175>yeah those other things exist that disprove my argument and that color identity has always been a meme alongside gender identity>but wotc should totally listen to my autism even though it's in their best interest both monetarily and game design wise to allow hybrid
I finally printed proper proxies of my paper proxies of UB cards (and the ugly ass modern horizons lady).
>>98340182where were your pitchforks again when sen triplets got to produce broccoli
>>98340186Sorry, >>98340175 was meant for >>98340159.
>>98340197I joined in 2018, so it was before my time. I like the idea of not being able to produce many of colors outside your color identity.
>>98340224it's silly to demand that wotc not allow hybrid but at the same time not demand to have them revert back all those changes from years past, if anything all wotc has to do is keep pushing hybrid so that players want them in mono and your cause falls anyway, this isn't the hill to die on
>>98338471TQ: Last week I had Rhystic out like t2 or 3 and this one opponent who used to be a competitive player I guess kept not paying the 1. Hmmm??Then he ended up doing a Jeska’s Will netting 18 mana for him. Bring back mana burn (this was supposed to be bracket 4 but he played a cEDH deck and the other 2 dudes only had b3 so it wasn’t a well matched table)But Rhystic + Jeska is a pretty insane combination
>>98340244>don't pay rhystic if you're about to win>if you're not winning yet pay the {1}easy
>>98340250Sir, a third copy of Rhystic has hit the field.
>>98340224>Joined in 2018Where's that one anon that called this several threads ago?>Player that joined post-FIRE has no idea what they're talking about
>>98340273casuals always want to say their hot takes it's nothing new
>>98340151>Instead of making the card more available because the effect could fit in either color, they should make it less available by forcing you to run bothGenuinely retarded take that could only come from someone that never played any other card game or format.
>>98340239>it's silly to demand something not change while not demanding something that has been the case for a decade to change backNo.
>>98340282>the game has interesting deck building restrictions unique to the format>but anyways fuck those, let's make it like every other formatGo play canadian highlander.
>>98340284>precedent? haha what's that...lol
>>98340294>Interesting>Warps game around how many colors the commander has, ironically making decks MORE homogenous
>>98340175It's not an "other shitty design decision"; it's the SAME FUCKING DESIGN DECISION that just MAGICALLY behaves differently in Commander because, apparently, Commander players didn't spend enough time playing with those little shape-boxes when they were three.
>>98340294This hasn't been true since they printed Cromat and 5c Hermit Druid instantly became the best deck in the format.
>>98340310>restrictions make the game more homogenousOh, I see. You're playing with net-decking retards that don't actually enjoy the art of deckbuilding. My mistake.
>>98340298>there is a precedent that the format has changed in specific circumstances, so now it must change more!No.
>>98340324post your snowflake deck NOW
>>98340324>If I just pretend the problem doesn't exist, it goes awayThanks for admitting that more colors is so strong it overrides nearly anything interesting a commander can do.
>>98340313>it magically behave differently in a format that has an interesting deckbuilding restriction unique to the formatWoah, crazy
>>98340329actually yesdenying pro-hybrid while at the same time letting sen triplet players get away scot-free simply amounts to you saying "because i said so"
>>98340317>best deckOh, I see. You don't actually play commander.
>>98340336He's a newbie that never played the game when Sen Triplets was a menace to the point the change actually did matter significantly. All he knows now is precon commanders that are setup+payoff so he can turn his brain off the moment it resolves, which is likely how he comes up with these takes.
Teysa looks like a hooker
>>98340330I don't know what that means, but here are my decks.
>>98340341Go ahead anon, I want you to tell me which deck ended up replacing 5c Hermit Druid as top contender. I'll give you a hint, it's a card currently on the banlist, and that deck was in turn succeeded by a deck that sounds similar to "glue barn".Notice how they all have something in common.
>>98340333If you're not smart enough to understand a problem it's better for everyone involved if you don't opine.
>>98340350my eyes stopped at ghalta, wow can't wait to see the cookie cutter decklist!
>>98340336I wasn't around to argue against that, but would have at the time if I was. More restrictions is better. I still argue that extort shouldn't be legal unless you have white and black.
>>98340359You shouldn't talk about shit when you're clearly uninformed about it and know nothing about the actual nature of the format while LARPing like you know what makes it unique.
>>98340352I can assure you it's unique cause it was all just cards from my collection when I first started. Just green dude with high power:cost ratio
>>98340358You could have just looked at Dune-Brood (illegal deck) or 5c gates to get the conclusion he's a LARPer. The fact he thinks -black actually gives a deck identity says everything.
>>98340352I assume you mean golos cause I know my friend said golos was banned so he couldn't play it anymore. I told him to just keep playing it cause it was a fun deck. I don't know what you're on about beyond that. Again, the idea that these is a best deck in a casual format is retarded.
>>98340368Weird that you're flexing being shit at the game, but okay.
>>98340376>Knows nothing about history of the format>Keeps talking about history of the format
>>98340376even casual single player mobile gacha games have meta strats, how much more a pvp game that plays like poker at the top level (cedh)? you're coping real hard
>>98340366You don't need to be a genius to understand that rules unique to a format make that format unique, and removing those rules makes the format less unique. How about we remove the rest of the restrictions while we're at it, just make it 40-card with a commander, any of them, doesn't matter.
>>98340374>nooo not the illegal nephilim decklmao i bet you think it's just a pile of goodstuff 4-color
>>98340376>>98340384Cedh tards need a containment thread
>>98340389We should restrict the card pool to only basic lands, since by your logic, all restrictions make the format more unique and therefore better.I can also give dumb hyperbolic examples.
>>98340381>if you don't rigorously follow online meta and discussion about the format instead of playing it with your friends, you can't have an opinionlmao
>>98340396Yes anon I'm sure you're really creative which is why you needed a 4c commander for this super innovative idea that totally isn't just you wanting to be a snowflake that doesn't run Saskia.
>>98340403I'm not arguing for more restrictions, I'm arguing the current ones should stay. You are aruging for change towards homogeny.
>>98340409>he literally cannot envision a 4 color deck that isn't just goodstuffMy lord, this general is cooked.
>>98340405>Knows nothing about the game>Doesn't know how rules changed over time>Doesn't know how rules impacted game>Doesn't know how cards impacted game>Doesn't even know how game looks outside his imagined idea of it>Still tries to give his retarded takes on 4chan
>>98340412Your argument only holds true if color identity remains a strong restriction, and from the decks that you yourself have posted, that is untrue and directly supports the argument against you that the game has warped in favor of commanders that ignore color identity as much as possible.
>>98340417I'm waiting for you to post your super innovative creation, anon. It must be really spicy if you need to break the rules that you defend so valiantly for it.
>It's not influencing design, bros. We'd never give extra colors to a commander just to make it better in EDH.
>>98340377>the deck is shit because uhhh it just is, okay?!It works well enough and is pretty fun. It's an early deck, though, either the second or third I made, so it's certainly uncomplicated.
>>98340442You made the best deck in 2001 EDH? Damn I guess literally everyone playing at the time plus everyone playing preEDH today was just wrong.
>>98340401doesn't even have to be cedh, reminder that the ultimate goal of brackets is to make it easy for the lgs to host events, i 100% assure you there are meta strats for b2 and b3
>Survivor main arguing against hybrid mana change again
>>98340432What imagined rules would I even be breaking? It's a landfall deck that focuses mostly on deserts. Outside of basics, it's all deserts, because he's Dune-brood nephilim.
>>98340472>he's called DUNE>so DESERTS!holy big brain
>>98340472Yes anon super clever. You really impressed us all with your amazing deckbuilding skills putting lands in a 4c deck.Now let the adults get back to talking about the game.
https://archidekt.com/decks/24298032/parnesse_en_bergsuppose to be on the slower side with some politics (if I give away a copy of paradigm, they get paradigm forever too)
>>98340495>>98340491>"It's obviously a 4c goodstuff pile! You're breaking your own rules with a commander that just has more colors because you want the best cards!">No>"lmao you don't know how to deck build"I really thought the UB piggies were the biggest cancer in this general, but holy cow, the cedh crowd is just awful.
>>98340447So the cedh of each bracket. It's still competitive edh regardless on it's it's bracket 2 or 5, and the sweaties here all all over it. Why is it so hard for you guys to make decks for fun?
>>98340446Wrong about what? It's just cards I owned at the time and ghalta. How is that the best deck? I have permating mass in there cause he's a fun guy.
IT'S TIME TO RUMBLE BITCH SHOW ME (YOU)R STRONGEST CREATURE
>>98340491He's a monster that pukes out sand people, so yes, deserts. I'm sorry there isn't enough goodstuff in it for you.
>>98340472>Uses illegal commander>"I'm not breaking any rules. Anyway please please PLEASE take me seriously when I say what the rules should be"
>>98340537Ghalta was released in 2018 retard. I don't know why you're insisting you somehow knew what a deck looked like in 2001 when Cromat released.
>>98340548If you've lived through this format, you know the nephilim are generally accepted as commanders.>buh then why not any creature this is the rules! You're breaking the rules!Oh no, not one of my 33 decks. However will I survive knowing a 33rd of my decks has a commander that people generally accept as a commander but isn't technically a commander.If someone refuses to play against it, guess what? I just play a different deck. But no one does, cause that's retarded.
>>98340523Nobody will ever take you seriously given that you get mocked every time you open your mouth in this general.
>>98340557>you made the best deck in 2001 edhWhat is this supposed to mean then? Cause I have no clue. I have no cromat deck.
>>98340572If you've lived through this format, you know hybrid mana is generally accepted as either color.>buh then why not any card of any color this is the rules! You're breaking the rules!
>>98340573Not usually, I've been here for years. Just right now cause I'm surrounded by cedh cancer. Right time of the day, I guess.
>>98340572>33 decks>Plays none of themSounds about right for someone posting on /edhg/
>>98340580>Everyone better than me is cEDH
>>98340575Well that's just a lie, though.
>>98340572>Breaks rules to accommodate his deck (4c landfall lmao)>TAKE. ME. SERIOUSLY!! I KNOW WHAT THE RULES SHOULD BE!!!
>>98340589>When I LARP it's based and epic>But when my LARP example is used against me it's a lie!!!
>>98340581I've played all of them many times. I haven't played in a while due to illness, though. Last I played in person was back in march. The least played one is my bre deck, only once cause I made it at the beginning of march, and my most played is probably Sephara or Halpar just cause they're the oldest ones, not that they look much like when I first made them.
>>98340588>betterAt what? I build my decks for fun and interest, you build your decks to win at any cost. You are playing competitively, I am just playing.
>>98340599>when you tell the truth it's truthful, but when I lie it's a lieYeah, that's how that works.
>>98340572Do you not see how comically hard it weakens you argument to say hybrid mana can't happen because restrictions are good, only for your actual decks to contain fucking 4c landfall (i.e. the archetype that basically doesn't need any color but green) and therefore stand to directly benefit from fucking over people actually impacted by color identity?
>>98340608Yeah mental illness.
>>98340616>My LARP is a truth bomb but people that actually play the game are liars
>>98340612>I build my decks to be hecking unique and interesting>Cookie cutter decks>Oh but dude the lands in my landfall deck for my landfall commander sometimes enter tapped so it's super uniqueYou can't even be a Timmy correctly. Pitiful.
>>98340617>no but one of your decks has 4 colors so you don't understand how awful and victimizing deck building restrictions reaply are!I have built 33 decks, my dude, and brewed hundreds more. I am well aware of the limitations of the restrictions. There are lots of decks I simply do not build because they do not work within the framing of the format? But guess what? I don't cry and piss and moan that the format should be changed to accomedate me, I just build a different deck.
>>98340608>Hasn't played in 3 years>Still LARPsSurvivor main, right?
>>98340612>4c landfall is interestingI'm sorry you're retarded
>>98340627>Brewed hundreds of decks>They all turn out cookie cutter shit>Plays none of themLMAOOOOOOOOOOO
>>98340627You're a pretty shit brewer if you make "hundreds" of decks and one of them that makes the cut is 4c landfall.
>>98340612I don't understand how you think it takes a cEDH player to point out that there's clearly advantages to a middle ground between a card that can only be run in one color VS a card that can be run in any color. All this does is indicate you've never played any other formats or games, and are operating based on your vague assumptions of what they're like.
>>98340624I'm sorry, what's cookie cutter here?And no, the lands are deserts, tapped or otherwise, and the ramp and lots of other cards in the deck are picked with that in mind.
>>98340628>3 yearsI don't know what survivor is. I played online a few weeks back and before that back in march, as said.
>>98340653>The lands are deserts! That makes it unique!>Deck is still 4c landfall>Commander is landfall>0 players surprised when your deck is landfall after seeing commanderSnore.
>>98340638>>98340630Why? What's wrong with my desert deck? It's fun. You know fun, right?
>>98340667>Dude my decks are super unique and interesting and I'm the grand arbiter of fun>Plays landfall>Needs 4 colors for fucking landfall
>>98340667Zero self-awareness post. Blud actually escaped DBD Twitter.
>>98338471>tqthat is is another example of wotc just shitting on the word 'white' because of agenda b.s.
>>98340649I know what they are in other formats, I understand the intension behind their design. We are not discussing other formats, and the intension doesn't matter because they are in color indentity terms, both colors, which is the only thing this format looks at.
>>98340698>Admits to LARPing
>>98340664>lands are deserts so no fetches>ramp is all desert or nonbasic ramp>landfall deck is indeed a landfall deck>commander doesn't have a landfall ability>this thread was full of people thinking the deck was just 4-color goodstuff>the first time I played the deck, before playing when I pulled out the deck, one of the other players said "oh, so you're just using it for color identity", and then I explained what the deck was and did and he thought it was neatYall need to actually find a playgroup that can tolerate you so you can play with real people in the real world that actually enjoy playing the game for the fun of it.
>>98340698>We are not discussing other formats.That's not only a narrow-minded approach, but you're applying it in a way that's outright stupid. Because when confronted with the real positive design space it created, you're just saying that's not what EDH is, then when people point out the problems that EDH's rules are causing (large bias towards giving commanders more colors to completely bypass the rule), you just say people pointing this out are cEDH and also try to ignore them.Meanwhile your whole argument is "Well it makes the format more unique to not have hybrid cards". Which other anons have rightly pointed out is a faulty premise because the format has been dominated by 4c and 5c decks for a long time.
>>98340702What's the larp? I play commander, I play limited, and on the rare occation I'll play other formats like pauper and pioneer.
>>98340717>I run ramp in my landfall deck and my commander wants me to have lots of lands>Oh but watch out, I have a lot of nonbasics in this 4c deck!
Is there a card that does this?>if a creature would enter, and it wasn’t cast, or it was cast without spending mana less than its casting cost, exile it
>>98340717>Yall need to actually find a playgroup that can tolerate youironically you're the only one here being intolerant over hybrid (aka other people's fun), everyone else wants it so other people can do more with their mono
Personally I love whenever an autist starts dropping the most retarded take imaginable in the thread because it makes choosing the next low-quality bait TQ super easy.
>>98340728The best I can do from the top of my head is Containment Priest.
>>98340718No, I'm not saying that people pointing that out are cedh. I'm saying the people that think wotc needs to consider the cedh crowd at every level people they think people simply cannot help themselves from building meta decks are cedh cancer. It's a thief thinking everyone steals. That is all nogames reasonings.>the format has been dominated by 4 and 5 colors decks!What do you mean by dominated? Cause that sounds awfully like cedh language. In my playgroup and outaiders that have joined our games occationally, I've seen only a handful of 4 and 5 color decks. I have two, my friend has one, one guy that occationally plays with us has two. That's about it.>but the heckin edhrec stats!They track online deck construction. That is simply not reflective of the reality of real world play patterns.
>>98340728Containment Priest for the first half. Along with Mistcaller and Hallowed Moonlight. Second half doesn't really exist because it instantly turns group hug effects into "Players can't cast creature spells."Soulless Jailer and Weathered Runestone are a bit similar to what you might want.
>>98340730Just play canadian highlander
>1v1 commander>60 card singleton deck>Commander must be printed at uncommon or lower>Uses the bans from every format at once.
>>98340760>yes color identity has been changed so many times now but goddamnit if i can't have my autism over broccoli in a mono fire deck then get out of MY format so inclusive!
>>98340673>needs 4 colorsWhat do you mena needs? The commander is 4 colors, that's why the deck is four colors. Do you think I took a 3 color deck and said "oooo but I need this other color too"? Cause that's just not reality.
>>98340768Brawl but with a wierd banlist?
>>98340778Who is trying to be inclusive here? Certainly not me.
>>98340778Again, that argument holds no water for me because I don't like the changes that have been made either.
>>98340750For the sake of argument, I'll entertain the idea that both cEDH tournament stats and EDHrec are totally inaccurate and don't align at all with real people who play the game (despite them both representing wildly different player demographics with tremendous sample sizes and drawing the same conclusion).Why do you think WotC keeps printing 5c commanders, especially when they have abilities that clearly exist for no reason other than improving their color identity? If there was not demand for this type of card, they clearly wouldn't be printed, and obviously most of these cards aren't very desirable for anything else so you can't really attribute this to any other format or being a desirable 99 card. They're clearly doing something to merit being put in the set despite being atrocious in constructed 1v1, detrimental to limited, and outright unplayable in the 99 of most EDH decks. From there you can make the inference that these are being designed as commanders and nothing else, which leaves the implication trivial that there's people that want these cards to use them as a commander and the demand is significant enough that WotC allocates product space to them despite the card being detrimental everywhere else.From there, the conclusion can be made that color identity is currently in an eroded state where a considerable volume of players are ignoring it entirely, which is why your argument against hybrid mana comes off as someone that doesn't actually understand the implications behind hybrid mana.
>>98340788well where's your fighting spirit over those injustices? you're just going to let them be? how convenient it's almost like you don't actually believe what you say in principle and only do what's easy enough to feed your autism
>>98340789Don't bother. He's a LARPer that thinks the anecdotes in his head are more useful statistics than literally any possible form of data gathering.
>>98340806Honestly that's the impression I got when he reflexively also tried to dismiss EDHrec before it was even brought up, but I wanted to play along because I think it's a bit interesting to see how many ways the same conclusion can be arrived at, while anon's argument is basically "Um, people actually want to be handicapped for no reason."
>>98340789They know commander is a popular format and it the starting point for most players, so they are trying to make cards that are easy for thise bew players for the format that is the most popular. The solution is simple: 5 color commanders that cost less than wubrg. This way they can be cast easily, bit still have all 5 colors in the deck. Why is having all 5 colors in the deck important? Because new players sturggle with basic ideas like deckbuilding restrictions. They want all the goodstuff they can find in the deck they own and they what it now!So this isn't about the existing playerbase, this is about catering to the "potential" playerbase. Same reason they started making more UB cards. Same reason they are putting out 7 sets a year. Same reason they have dozens of precons each year.This isn't about commander players or the format how is was, this is about attracting lowest common denominator potential customers.>but then it doesn't matter since color identity means nothing anymore anywaysThrowing the baby out with the bathwater.
>>98340798What am I suppose to do? The fight is already over. The change has already been made before my time even.
>Boronko’s Modern LifeEnchantment Creature Saga - DevilBBR∞ - You lose life equal to the number of lore counters on this permanent, and draw a cardIf a permanent would be copied or spell would be copied, it copies this permanent instead and becomes a saga in addition to its other types then loses all types and other abilities not on this card.“The endless grind of process of bureaucracy can itself become a weapon”
>>98340806Again, what am I larping? I play the game and have with relative consistancy for eight years. I have 33 decks, all of which I play-- actually that's not true, I don't play 3 of them because they are too oppressive, but I can't bring myself to disassemble them. Nevertheless, I don't see how any of this is a larp.
>>98340809Deck restrictions are fun, yes. If they don't want the deck restrictions, they should play something else. Maybe a new format without them.
>>98340840"Play something else" is your weakest argument because by that logic no format can ever evolve.>Busted card that should be banned?Play something else
>>98340829>what am i supposed to do?look at color identity the same way as gender identity in that it is hilariously flimsy and not worth dying for, just look at how wotc can bypass it by just putting random mana pips in the text box lol
>>98340824Slippery slope fallacy and conjecture. Adjusting hybrid to work correctly is not the same as eliminating color identity. Nor can you verify that these cards exclusively pander to new players when the argument against you is that 5c is the most dominant way to play at the top level of experience. This is further supported by how 5c decks are uniquely more unforgiving to construct due to their more intensive manabases and aggressive need for fixing (half the decks shown will need multiple colors to even cast their commander). Even if we take your conjecture (only new players use these cards, and there's enough of them that WotC is pandering only to them) as fact, it now creates the implication that there are new players (and therefore, players) that use these 5c commanders, and therefore, a sizable player demographic is already ignoring the rules that you say are a core part of the format's identity.
>>98340868Again, just because bad things have happened does not mean I'm not going to keep saying more bad things shouldn't happen.My ideal world is going back to the original rules (outside of the only 1 basic land of each type rule), and banning all color pie breaks.
>>98340572Sounds like you should just play something else if you want to use Dune-Brood as your commander.
>>98340877>at the top levelCedh trash in where it goes
>>98340894>Ban pie breaks (according to retardanon)I can't wait to see if anon can figure out if this is a pie break and he'll have to take it out of his 4c landfall.
>>98340889Yes, however I asked my playgroup and they are happy with it. Maybe you guys should jist run hybrid cards and see if your group is happy with it?
>>98340899Begging the question.
>>98340902You should try another game. EDH is clearly too hard for you to understand.
holy fuck that got deleted?someone is REALLY having a meltdown
I'm thinking about building a Sliver Hivelord deck that takes advantage of its indestructible effect to cast lots of wrath sorceries and make them one-sided.I'm not sure how many wrath spells I should run though. The deck will have many engines that can grab slivers from the top cards of the library but it doesn't have draw engines for general cards. I'm thinking about 8 wraths. Is it too many or too few?
>>98340900I don't have it in there, anon.Sidenote, this deck is now on removal. I should really be running more. I should probably pur phyrexian purge in there, but I have to see how much lifegain I have.
>>983409107 is fine, 7 in 99 card is 4 in 60 card
>>98340899Taking your own argument at face value (these cards only appeal to novice players), then they are, in fact, cards played in your target demographic (players that are inexperienced and have no desire to improve). Once again undermining your argument that color identity is a major distinguishing factor.
>>98340910If you have enough draw it's fine. If you have too little draw, it's not enough.
>>98340915*light on removal
>>98340915*buzzer sounds*Oh, sorry anon! "Destroy target permanent" is actually in green's color pie!
>>98340928Forgot pic
>>98338919>play wubrg slop Fuck off
>>98340900They don't onpy appeal to novice players. I'm sure some will appeal to cedh players too because they want fewer restrictions. I am experianced and I have improved considerably and continue to try to, but that's at making plays with the cards I have, and making decks that fuction better while still being fun and interesting, not at deckbuilding away from fun and towards what's "best".And your supposed "undermining" is literally just calling me a novice. That's not an argument.
>>98340949This was meant for >>98340919
>>98340947But that's literally what you're arguing for.
>>98338919I'm fully content with this idea. Don't stop at Pongify. Give blue Swords to Plowshares, Burgeoning, Reanimate, and Rite of Flame. After all, this is what color identity is for.
Won a commander 4v4 match at my LGS today against a guy who bought 4 Power Booster Boxes (that's 15 Power Boosters per box) with my Cloud, Ex Soldier + Gift Bundle Cards. Needless to say he was mad at the end of the last 2 matches.
>>98340910I'd be careful with the play from top of deck thing. I play a lot of fetches and topdeck fuckery in my Falco Spara deck to make sure I don't get locked off of topdeck spells by a rogue land. Slivers have good access to tribal card draw and benefit off of coastal piracy type effects because of how aggressive they are. Enduring Curiosity, Toski, and the Sliver that does coastal piracy are the best ones.
>>98340908Someone needs to buy the anti-GBolas jannietroll some ac to cool off them off. Would help with the melties.
>be random guy who only played one (1) match against me and another friend>oh hi guys hmmm what deck should I use? Hmm I want to go easy on you because it seems like you'rw running newbie cards? Okay I will use a voltron deck>proceed to get raped, last damage done by my unblockable commander>hahaha guys I was just using my shittiest deck okay bye got to watch my tv showsWhat the fuck do you call this mental illness?
>>98340989Autism+ego. I've had nerds wordlessly scoop and leave games after they got beat even though nobody else at the table was being sweaty.
>>98340949So then let's recap:>We are assuming EDHrec is inaccurate>We are assuming cEDH tournament stats do not reflect anything real>We are assuming these 5c cards are only targeted at novice players and have incidental cEDH appealSo now our remaining demographic of people playing "real" EDH are moderately experienced, but not experts. These are players that ostensibly do not care about how a commander might be restricted by color identity, and only care if they can build a fun deck. This is countered by the design article on Archelos where they explicitly gave it black, expanding its color identity in a way that didn't correlate with its effect, for this exact player demographic.So yes, I will call you ignorant. Because that's what you're being. Even your own decks reflect this where none of them actually challenge you to do something unorthodox for its given colors, like an innovative deck would. Conveniently, this aligns with what I suspect your follow-up would be, where you claim any challenging/niche effects like monoW extra combats or monoU burn are just pie breaks and don't count, because it would be aligned with your routine habit of narrowing the scope (No true Scotsman, ad hoc rescue) when your claims are falsified.
>>98340992He made my matches feel outright bad and tryhard, even though I was literally playing for fun. Absolute disgust. I shit talk him after he left with 0 remorse and will say so to his face next time if I see him, he's like that because nobody calls him out for it , 100% sure of it.
>>98340995>people playing "real" EDH are moderately experienced, but not experts. These are players that ostensibly do not care about how a commander might be restricted by color identity, and only care if they can build a fun deck.Correct. Everyone not doing it this was is either very new/incredibly casual, or cedh-tuned.>>this is counter by an article about a designer expanding a color identoty of a cardThe designers making a choice does not in fact counter that at all, no. The fact is that most players play for fun and are happy with deckbuilding restrictions that are inherant to the format.>your own decks aren't doing this unorthadox for the colors they areWhy would they? What does that have anything to do with my argument? Yes, I don't like color breaks, how is that against my argument? You're pointing out things I dislike as arguments against me, as if they somehow justify more things I dislike happening? It's nonsense.
SOUL OVERLOAD
>>98341025Do you have any statistical evidence supporting your claim that "most" players enjoy this? Because literally any attempt at data gathering says, at best, opinions are evenly divided with slight favoring towards changing the rule.
>>98340989Sore loser. A lot of nerds who play this game can't deal with getting their ass kicked. They're usually insufferable winners too.
>>98341038No, because the only stats that are taken are from competitive events and the internet as a whole, neither of which are representative of the average commander player.>lmao no statsYeah, I don't care. Despite what you may say, I will indeed believe my supposidly lying eyes as I actually play regularly and have played regularly for the better part of a decade.
>>98341057So you're making these claims without even bothering to do the bare minimum like ask the other players in your playgroup?
>>98341057>get shown proof from the mothership itself that there's a slight favoring of the change>I will indeed believe my supposedly lying eyesyou truly are too disabled to make any hot takes especially for someone so 'casual', surely if ever the hybrid change goes through you'll just rule zero it away just like you being able to play with nephilim riiiight
Thinking of building out one of the Spiders (dont crucify me)How do Spider Gwen, Gwenom, and Carnage do in b3? Gwenom seems pretty nuts being Bolas Citadel in the command zone
>>98341065Where did I say that? I talk with them all the time, and occationally like me they will say something like "aw, I wish this guy had x it its color identity", but then like an adult we just say oh well and move on. If you mean specifically on hybrid mana, everyone I've talked to agrees that adding it would ruin the feel of the format, that color restrictions are part of what makes the format what it is. We talk about deck building and card interactions all the time.
>>98341069>random uncited screenshot>proofGive me a demographic breakdown of the poll, where ilt was taken, when it was taken, etc.
why the fuck did they make this so strong, damnthere's like one other permanent shroud aura in the game with flash and it doesn't give flying either
>>98341078Except you haven't actually gathered any of this supposed information into one place, and your claim that "everyone" supports it is self-evidently contradicted by the fact people are disagreeing with you in this thread.>No but those don't count so we can discard those resultsThis is also what we call "bad data practice" and is exactly how confirmation bias occurs. Which, quite fittingly, is how people arrive at conclusions that don't align with reality.Hold yourself to your own data standards. Otherwise I'll just anecdotally say my LGS is bigger and more casualer than yours and 100% of the players there support hybrid mana so you lose.
>>98341069>hey, I have this nephilim as my commander, that cool?vs>hey is anyone using off-color hybrid mana cards? Cause I don't want you playing those>literally every gameYeah, not equivalent at all.
>>98341112>Need to ask to play Nephilim before every game>Need to ask to not play with hybrid before every gameThese are the same thing.
>>98341088>Give me a demographic breakdown of the poll, where ilt was taken, when it was taken, etc.let me guess you can't believe the top 3 selling sets of all time are UB too
>>98339627>making your protagonist develop as a character because he needs to be in status quo forever and developing him would mean changing his colors.This is about the only thing magic does constantly though. It's rarely completely replacing colors but status quo is not something wotc is scared of fucking with
>>98341070gwenom is adnaus from the cz with extra steps, get a cedh list and port it over to b3
>>98341110But I didn't say that everyone holds that opinion, that was never my clain, that would be retarded. I didn't say everyone, I said everyone I've talked to. That's obvious not entirely representative, and I never said it was. It is more representative than bad data though, yes.
>>98341130>But I didn't say that everyone holds that opinion>>98341078>everyone I've talked to agrees that adding it would ruin the feel of the formatAgain, you claim this phantom data exists, yet you refuse to even aggregate it and risk it even slightly contradicting your claims.
>>98341130well everyone i've ever talked to said hybrid's ok so if wotc ever pushes it through you're not going to cry right? because you don't see pro-hybrid people having a melty now do you
>>98341121>I need everyone to not build their deck in a specific way every single game regardless of what deck I usevs>I need everyone to be okay with me playing one of my 33 decks when I play it, which is rarely because I have so many decksNot the same, no. Not is what you're asking of other players nor in frequency.
>>98339827Find a mono color commander with a silly gimmick and keep it mid power. Preferably something fun for you to play and juuust strong enough you can shoot your shot at anyone acting shit over the first game
>>98341139you never answered if you're just going to rule zero away hybrid change if ever wotc approves it down the line, don't run away now
>>98341139and yet you just spent over 4 hours arguing about exactly that, wanting everyone else that plays the format to coddle (You).
>>98341122Oh course I can, that's just a fact, nothing behind it. They are solid sales numbers. A poll is not sales numbers. If you wanted to use sales numbers to say that every sale is a player and therefore completely representative of the playerbase, that I would take issue with because of outside factors like scalping.
>>98341136What are you one about? These quotes aren't contradictory. Everyone I have talked to in real life agreed. I did not claim anywhere that that anecdotal evidence is directly representative of the whole of edh players. I do believe, however, that it is MORE represenrative than the bad data you've pointed to.
>>98341092because you'll buy it!
Might get a 2nd job just to buy more Final Fantasy cards...
>>98341162Moving the goalposts. First it's everyone you talked to, now it's only people you talked to in real life.For your data to be "more representative" that means it would have to hold true over a larger sample size than existing data. Of course you're free to try this, but so far all you've done is insist it's totally real while relying solely on a personal anecdote. You're not even willing to just go up to 3 people and ask "What do you think of the hybrid mana change?" and do the bare minimum amount of empirical data gathering, likely because it would entail getting off your ass and doing work to support your claim.
>>98341151>>98341162>my anecdotes are more reliable than wotc telling us what the breakdown is>btw i believe maro when he says UB sells but not gavin when he tells us the breakdown of opinions on hybrid!you really are too autistic for this lmao i 100% believe you're going to cry if ever hybrid pushes through
>>98341162>Sample size: 4 from one specific location is more representative than sample size: 9 million across the entire planetThere is not a single institution on the planet that would accept this premise.
>>98341137I do absolutely see pro-hybrid people having a melty. That's why we're talking about it at all, because you guys are having a melty about it. If you weren't there would be nothing to discuss because there would continue to be no change towards it as there hasn't been.If wotc made the change I would be upset and rightly so. If your local group genuinepy says that, and let's be honest, they don't, if they even exist, then I would completely understand you beliving it was a common belief.
My wife Thalia
>>98341144No, I wouldn't, because it would be a huge pain in the ass as I was functionally explaining.
>>98341190Damn lots of conviction from anon here.
>>98341186>Gets assblasted for 4 hours>"Actually, you're mad!"
>>98341145No, that would be you wanting to change the format to suit you.
>>98341186you're outnumbered at least 3 to 1 and you think we're having a melty? if anything we're humoring you lol
>>98341165I won't but if i had a voltron-ish kinda deck in white I'd be really really tempted...
>>98341092Because auras in general aren't worth the space in a deck due to them being a bad card type. Even though Brilliant Wings is better than most it still sees almost no use. Why would I ever use it over mother of runes?
>>98341181Unironically yes, but it's more like 20.
>>98341212idk, mom doesn't have haste or flash or give evasion so i feel like it has some advantages
>>98341188Your wife, Gitrog's dinner.
>>98341088https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026From here we can reverse engineer a minimum sample size of 48 with a breakdown as follows:(Very positive)1299810(Very negative)To win, all you have to do is poll 48 people with a 1-5 scale with stronger negative opinion than stated. If that's too hard for you, then that's a concession you recognize your findings will not align with your hypothesis.Remember to hold yourself to your own stated publication standards when gathering data! It would be embarrassing if you did something stupid like present only the important part of a study instead of giving demographic breakdowns!
>>98341181>low tier failurelmao
>>98341213Did you actually ask all 20 people individually, or did you ask a maximum of 3 in the middle of a game and assume all 20 agree? Those are very different things.
>>98341238Group discussions in and out of play as well as a few individual ones.
>>98341249Cool! Did you actually record any of this to prove it happened?
>>98341188Why does your wife have a penis?
>>98341253>>98341231LmaoYou guys are wild. I'm off. Good luck with yourselves.
>>98341259>Asked to do bare minimum>LeavesWow, really convinced me.
>>98341259yeah that's right you better run haha
>>98341188She's frog poop, bro.
>>98341223>>98341323I feel like you guys made that up
>>98341323WOTC...They get me
>>98341339His new card eats the rider. Thalia rode him in MOM. Thalia is not there when he appears in OTJ. Not rocket science to figure out what happened.
>>98341339it's plausible that someone from wotc put thalia and gitrog together to appease vorefags, i wouldn't put it past those trannies in renton wa
>>98341354You seem obsessed desu
>>98340374>crying about nephilim in 2000+26 the year of our lord and savior
>>98341358>hey it's possible they did this>you're obsessed???
>>98341256Cause penises are more fun. I would 100% have a dickgirl wife if she could still get pregnant.
>>98341461based as fuck
Well, at least they can't touch Bolas now, right? He was a beacon of masculinity and they locked him up with Ugin so they can't change his character anymore.
>>98341339>official lore states Gitrog is only partnered with Thalia out of convenience and could eat her at any time >since then a Gitrog card without Thalia has been released >zero mention of Thalia anywhereThey're called reasonable conclusions anon
>>98341479You're not gonna believe this...
UB proxies of UB cards
Theft tickets where you steal your opponent's commanders and give them shitty stats
>>98340691Best I can do.-Maro
Coming back to MTG after 4 years away. I play UB reanimator with Taigam, it uses blue spells to cycle through your deck and discard creature cards to the graveyard and black spells to reanimate them.My deck is in a weird spot where it is too interactive and consistent for bracket 2 but also too slow for bracket 3. Are there faster commanders now to replace Taigam? I want to keep the play style as it is but I want to make it faster. I'm searching through scryfall for cards I want printed in the last 4 years but I would also appreciate some advice to swap my commander.
>>98341554I would 100% run this if it wasn't 8 bucks.
>>98341568I'd run it if it was 3 mana. at 5, its not worth it.
What are your thoughts on the World Shaper precon?I typically play precons only because I'm weirdo, and I want this to serve as my "strong" precon.
>>98341564It won't be a straight swap since you need to add atrifacts but Golbez definitely fits
>>98341614Very strong with hearthhull in the command zone but it will look the same as every other hearthhull deck
>>98338592>Did you win anon??Yes. Blech is such a stupid commander.
>>98341564You should stay with bracket 2. It's much more fun. Maybe switch to Scion of Halaster with one of these?
>>98341614I got it specifically to keep as the stock precon list. It plays well enough as is that I don't feel bad about not upgrading it with fetches and the other go-to staples.
I really hate building decks that can't really be goldfished.
Post Decks?
>>98341814Based.I'd post my Eggman but I need to take a new picture. Marvel set seriously changed him.
>>98341614>I typically play preconsGet the fuck out of my format you secondary faggot
Any commander over 3 mana is unplayable if the deck relies on the commander
>>98341830Get fucked sweaty nerd. I play precons for the option select:>I lose: of course I lost, I was only playing a precon>I win: wow, you lost to a precon?It's basically like playing Dan from Street Fighter.
>>98341854are you sure about that
>>98341513Yeah.
>>98341891What is the partner?
>>98341975anything you want to be quite honest though for each color these seem to be the best:mono white: far travelerblack: agent of the iron throneblue: candlekeep sagered: street urchingreen: master chef?
tfw we will never get another bunch of Backgrounds printed because a bunch of asshurt faggots are now trying to ineffectually protest every UB release
>>98342013Commander Legends: Battle for Ivalice
THIS THREAD NEEDS A HERO>>98342144>>98342144>>98342144
>>98341479Fuck I want artifact back. Please gaben
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