Who let the dogs out? edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98329797 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>TQWhat's your favourite scene depicted in a miniature photo?
>TQI feel like Khadrons or OBR are cheating because GW does a good job at showcasing they're scale.
>>98338857Kharadron take to these type of pics really well
>>98338857Flesh Hounds are way bigger than i expected
>>98338905Those megagargants better watch the fuck out
>>98338857Massive battles like this one>>98338905Lol
>>98338875That one terrain piece has unmatched swagger
>>98339079Modern warcom is so low effort compared to the fun shit we used to get during 1st and 2nd edition
>>98339149If you told me they would give up the Sunday videos a couple years back I would never have believed you.
>>98339149You'd think with all those GPTs it woud be the easiest shit ever to make some dumb Buzzfeed nonsens like this
>>98339166Gpt subscription is too expensive for an indie company like gw, while interns are free.That, or the horus heresy team used up all the tokens on marine art
>>98339228>horus heresy team used up all the tokens on marine artLegendary fumble
>>98339263In a sense, we will always remain in the Gnarlwood.
>>98339263That rickety shit does not look like it should be handling the weight of armored Stormcasts
>>98339288Yeah? The wooden planks are your hangup? Not the giant flesh trees reaching several miles into the sky, filled with ruins and witch lights? Then consider this: its fantasy.
>>98339288I assume they audibly bend as they walk. Well 2 of them, 1 can levitate
Ogre box announced tonight?What else is on the menu? Some tow battlemarch boxes?
>>98339279I can't do it...we were so close to talaxis
>>98339390the two sides of gw don't share weeks of releases, it's either 40k+aos or tow+hh, they don't cross for some weird reason, only black library does
Misthavn Home
Can they make a new edition where the game doesn’t feel like a chore to play
>>98338857>tqI don't know if this counts but there was a pretty cool army showcase in the cogfort white dwarf, it was cos with two griffins and an absurd amount of cavaliers, like 30 or something. It was really cool.
>>98339590lol
>>98339390i would expect HH MK IV armour in a smaller box or Blood Bowl plastic kits before Battle March and WoC separate release.>>98339502That's not completely true, just two weeks ago they did a big HH release along with a bunch of 40k Battleforce boxes.So while it's a good rule of thumb to say GW doesn't release SDS stuff in the same week as Mainline games, they are exceptions.
I’ve started OBR, with the Mortisian elite box, but find myself, at a crossroads on what to further add. I’ve made this test list, but I’m unsure, if I should follow through with it.
>>98339149Everything feels low effort these days. I used to think Black Library’s problem was too many fucking books released and now I feel like we get one book every year
Ogors>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/p0r8elbp/sunday-preview-ogor-mawtribes-on-the-warpath/
>>98340064Character reveal tomorrow afternoon
>>98340067they say two reveals but I guess one of those will be for the 40k Armageddon stuff>>98339502This week's preview had the Legion Imperialis and a MESBG MTO, so I think GW is fine with having crossover weeks now
>>98340064>52 warscroll cardsExcuse me, 52? I've never actually bought the damn things but 52 seems like a LOT. Even if every unique scroll needs 2 cards, that's still 26 unique units in the book, which seems rather high.
whats the new spearhead for ogors
>>98339941iirc harvester isnt good unless you're spamming it.
>>98340083Isn't that including spearhead scrolls?I checked the faction pack and it has 37 of em, but a couple of those are indeed spearhead ones
>>98340198The army set contains a spearhead "and then some", which might just be referring to the book and stuff, but it might also mean one of the unit in the box is not part of the spearhead. Anyway, the army set contains:>1x tyrant>3x ironguts >5x gluttons>5x gluttons>2x shitbull cavalryPersonally I'm betting on one of the 5 man glutton units to be left behind in the army set, if at all.
>>98340227these models are so fucking bad, I don't get why people like them.
>>98340233What do you not like about em anon?Personally I was never really into ogres but they seem fine on the whole. Really like the ironguts, might grab three of those just to throw in a list as allies or something.
>>98340263they have no soul or personality.
>>98340287 oh so you have no complaints about them, got it.
>>98340206So maybe replace a crawler with another one?
>>98340287Well duh they're plastic.Oh wait are you talking about what you see in the mirror every morning?
>>98340263they have too much soul and personality.
>>98340287Well, could you be a bit more specific?
>>98340263Not him but I don't like their new style of armor (especially the nonsensically single-pieced helmets) and I really don't like how uniform the gutplates are
>>98340227So what do you anons like or dislike about them?Will you be buying the box or a spearhead later? How will you paint them?
>>98340344Ill probably buy the spearhead a couple of times when they come out, 2 bare minimum. Probably in the minority here but I love the maulbeasts, from the riders to the fallout dogs every detail is for me. I just hope I can like the big center piece thats being shown tomorrow, and that bcr isnt being warmer.
>>98340227They confirmed somewhere that the spearhead is this but with 5 less gluttons.
>>98340340Also something that just occurred to me:I don't like that they're going in a more serious, played-straight direction with the revamp. There are no silly little details like the bellower "musician", or the guy punching people with a bear trap, or the gnoblar lookout. It doesn't help that some of the goofier concepts like Leadbelchers and Maneaters seem to be going the way of the dodo.
>>98340340>and I really don't like how uniform the gutplates areHuh? Aren't those more diverse than ever? You used to only get three designs for all your Infantry and now there's a bunch of different motifs between the maw, guts, overlapping jagged edges, etc.Agreed on the helmets though not the biggest fan of tbose either.
>>98340340They look hammered as does the rest of the armor. It's not as nonsensical as it may appear at first glance.https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/312305I'll probably paint mine weathered bronze and make them vaguely bronze age med themed.
>>98340344>So what do you anons like or dislike about them?I like that they're just barely bigger than existing ogre models. I also dislike that they're barely bigger than existing ogre models, and this was mainly achieved by shrinking the heads. The gutplates being so uniform when the ornate maw looking one should be reserved for ironguts or tyrants to help them stand out is a smaller pet peeve. I am happy that they didn't invalidate enlargement conversions though.>Will you be buying the box or a spearhead later? How will you paint them?I won't buy the box, I have too many ogre models already and can play the spearhead force. Just need to convert some back banners for champs.
>>98340364Yeah. But that's the GW as a whole pretty much. Tryhard serious sport or something.
>>98340067Either that or the mounted tyrant
>>98340387It's the same kit, anon.
>>98340364After 10 years of people complaining that aos is too silly they're starting to for more serious designs lately. New ogres in particular are quite horrifying with their faces and trophies.Alternatively this could be explained by gw following the larger trends of fantasy, with fromsoft esque stuff now "in", while early aos and endtimes stuff was designed when warcraft was at its peak in terms of popularity.>leadbelchers and maneaters seem to be going the way of the dodoGoing by the new character it seems they've effectively been combined into the "gunpowder mercenary" thematic subfaction.>>98340387I think both, as it's supposedly a dual-build kit.
>>98340365>Aren't those more diverse than ever?I don't see what you mean. They all have the same design of a pounded metal center with a jagged maw around it and two thigh plates hanging off of it. The old gluttons kit had four styles: One very similar to the new one with a jagged maw shape, one with a maw made with separate fang-shaped pieces of metal scrap, one with a very crude face made out of scrap, and a more ornate one with a relief of that one red angry face you see on a lot of old greenskin and ogre models.
I would like to respectfully request any and all of the Ossiarch Bonereaper battletomes, if any Anon has them and can upload or link me to them, please. Much appreciated and have a great Sunday, Anons.
>>98340411If you go through all the new units there's quite a bit of variation, for example these guys all have different ornate motifs compared to the plain metal of the gluttons for example.
>>98340433That's true, but I was strictly speaking about gluttons there. I don't have any complaints about the mini-butchers and their alt build and think they're the best part of the revamp.
>>98340364gnoblars are kinda lame, by far the worst aspect of the faction for both fantasy and aos.
What has everyone accomplished hobby-wise this weekend?I tackled the early sculpting stages for a few more of my DoK. Once this current pile is done, I'll go back and start sanding and adding little details (nipples, armour bits, cloth - that sort of thing). >>98340433Is the design on the gut plates of the middle and right ones supposed to be a brain or intestines? Reads like brains to me, which seems a bit weird.
>>98340439I see, yes I see what you mean. It seems they've gone for lots of variation in all the specialized units, while keeping the basic glutton plate very uniform.>>98340457I means guts make more sense. It's also based on that one chinese gluttony motif that you see on a lot of Shang bronze vessels.
>>98340480>Shang bronze vesselsThat would be cool if they were more like that, but as they are, I don't think the line work matches up. I don't hate the gut plates, but I do think they're weaker than what they could be - save for one on the left, I'm a fan of the simple spiral design.
>>98340457>What has everyone accomplished hobby-wise this weekend?its still hot as fuck so not much can be done where im at rn. I am trying to sell some unseen to projects so i can make room for an extra army or two until then. hopefully by September I can back on a hobby streak.
>>98340563I think especially this guy has the design down. It's not exactly 1 to 1 to the chinese stuff, the ogres seem to incorporate intetstines mostly, but I think it's close enough that we can speak of a pretty likely inspiration. Especially since the chinese motifs are supposedly in reference to a gluttony demon, it would be one fucking crazy coincidence if the similarity was accidental.
>>98340610I say "this guy" and then forget the image
>>98340457Built 30 ardboys, 6 brute ragerz and tuskboss on maw grunta.
>>98340064Could you still reasonably make your ogres look at home in the cold tundra with these new models? Their new mounts look very badlands-y and it seems like it'd be pretty hard to match them up with the Mournfangs or Stonehorns.
>>98340598>its still hot as fuckI feel you. I've put priming and painting on the back burner, hence all the scraping, sanding, and sculpting.>>98340610I like the tattoos on the big guy with the plain bronze gut plate. If the other gut plates had designs more like that, I think I'd like them a lot more.>>98340614You doing sub-assembly, or are you one of those people who doesn't care about brush work in tight spaces?
>>98340344I don't gaf about the tome so I'll probably just get the spearhead when that comes out in a couple months.Some anon posted an ironguts edit with red skin like an oni a couple weeks back, looked sick as fuck and might try that. Wish I couls find the pic. Anyway, maybe I'll fluff it as a firebelly tribe? Maybe paint some of the skin scorchrd black too?>>98340675The tyrant has an alt build that makes him look more beastclaw-y. I think with the right paintjob it'll look fine. If you wanna go the extra mile you could sculpt fur rags on them too
>>98340457I'm nearly done with these "gallants".
>>98340782Are they on differently sized bases or does the different height create an illusion?
>>98340777I think the issue would be the mounts more than the ogres themselves. The new mounts don't look like they'd be in a cold environment at all.
>>98340945Yeah it's been talked about. Some anons have talked about sculpting some fur on those guys as well
>>98340858Just wildly bastardized. Looks like the cloth is highlighted with metallic also.
>>98340340>uniform the gutplates areGluttons had 3 unique Gutplates These guys have 5
>>98341280Pretty cool, defineitly more of a banner hero than banner command squad look
>>98341224>Looks like the cloth is highlighted with metallic also.Weird. Form the picture you can't realy tell it's metal and not lighter weathering
>>98340782please tell me this is 3d printed slop and not those plastic baron's war knights everyone recommends
>>98340263NTA but I think the generic unit ogres look pretty good to great. But the characters, the generic tyrant and the named leadbelcher woman have weird looking cartoony heads compared to the higher definition more detailed basic ogor heads that the rest have. It’s like the characters were sculpted by a different less talented artist. Really makes the whole range look a bit janky despite being brand new.
>>98341355I was so confused when I saw the battlesmith in the spearhead, I always assumed the guy was just straight up a normal vulkite berserker bannerbearerGreat conversion
>>98341421Conpiracy theory is that he was, but they took him out and spieced up the banner a bit to make him standalone
>>98341439That's the thing, his banner isn't anything impressive either
>>98341439I mean, 99% of Fyreslayers is from the first wave so the diversity of assets and designs was terrible. SCE had the same limited with Liberators, Liberator with bows, Liberators with wings, etc it's only in wave 2/3 on 1st edition that they actually diversified with different armour decorations in dracoths, vanguard chamber, etc
Saw a fem-Ironjaw with huge tits and the whole jaw-like armor gimick realy works better with cleavage
>>98341474I gotta goooooon
>>98341474I play(lol) IJ and I love that I’m immune to getting foids and darks; you keep that unholy abomination away
>>98341372I think the heads are Victrix fantasy knight heads
>>98339582Based
>Ogor Mawtribes pre order starts on July 18th and it hits the streets on August 1stSo when it hits the streets, is it ALL the models sold individually or the box itself? And am I gonna have to compete with scalpers or some shit to get it?
>>98342153Just the box itself sadly.
>>98342153Just the box. Full release will come about a month later. Spearhead might not release for another couple of months though.
I just finished painting the stormcast side of skaventide + Ionus and was wondering where to go next. Kinda of spoiled for choice seeing as Stormcast have a million models to pick from these days. I've never played a game or know anything about list building. Was thinking maybe the new gryph chargers or dragon riders for cavalry + the new gyphon centerpiece + tornus? Yndrasta?
>>98342262With AoS being squatted and rebooted next edition, I would honestly say that stormcast are not safe to expand into. Being the space marines of the setting, their range will be at highest risk of large swathes of squatting again as they reimagine what the poster boys should be in the last world. Much safer bet to expand the Skaven half of the box. Their range isn’t going anywhere in the reboot
>>98342524Go back to your TOW thread, retard.
>>98342524Stormcast will be like Space Marines where there is always lines being squatted. But like Space Marines, they're all easy enough to proxy as something else.I doubt anyone cares if you use Tactical squads, devastator squads etc as whatever the Primaries versions are and same goes for Stormcast. They're all very interchangeable
>>98339279
>>98341372Victrix knights. I used masking tape and hole punches for the rondels, vambraces and pauldrons.
>>98342153The box first, like how heldmiths were rolled out>am I gonna have to compete with scalpersHelsmith box sold out pretty quickly, but they did another run like a week later. I'd give your lgs a call beforehand if you wanna be sure, ogres are a middling popularity army but the new models seemed well received, and being so elite they're very easy to expand into. Of they don't produce enough it's very possible they might run into issues locally.
>>98342550>>98342566>responding to the bait larp post
How my hours until the rhino?
>>98342739You too, retard.
>>98342747like 10?
Are there any stories of tzeentch leading knights astray? For some reason I can see all 3 other of the gods fucking a knight up but for tzeentch I aint got nothing. At least not anything direct, I guess you could say they're involved in political disputes which involves lots of back stabbing but that feels kinda boring.
>>98342785Dawnbringers has a subplot where part of the Aqshy crusade gets deceived by Tzeentchian shapeshifter
>>98342646>I used masking tape and hole punches for the rondels, vambraces and pauldrons.I like it, anon.
>>98342794Is that why WD had DoT warscrolls for Freeguild stuff?
>>98342841I don't know. Do you have that WD scanned?
>>98342785>Freeguild Cavalier of the Dawnbringer Crusades do not inherit their position which is not bought by privilege or tax but by sheer skill and often personal tragedy. Some are simply elevated to their position by displaying a greater aptitude for warfare, the skill with blade and warhorse being the only requirement. But many are the sole survivors of a destroyed stronghold, having lost all friends and family they have salvaged the finest weapons and armor they could find before riding out on a warhorse seeking to vengeance.>salvaged the finest weapons and armor they could findTzeentch is all about cursed loot, greed, etc
>>98342785>>98342891I think another good example of chaotic cities of "sigmar" would be either native auxilias rebelling against their azyrite overlords, or azyrites going native. Since the tension between these peoples is mentioned a few times in the fluff.
>>98342849NTA, but i do.gofile.io/d/7TC8M6
>>98342841>>98342906Really cool. I don't think that dawnbringer is the reason for this AoR. Pyrofane Cult came before those books
>>98342747I think last time they showed it at around 4 bongtime or so, so I suppose around 6 hours?
Do you think the rumoured Cogforts yet to be released will be an upgrade of the basic kit like Brodd? I'm debating purchasing now, before any price hikes GW do, or waiting to get better value with the added sprue
>>98343150I feel like its gonna be a whole new kit. I just cant imagine the current kit being made more wizardy.
>>98343150The guy who rumoured it said it was a whole new kit.HOWEVER keep in mind the guy's rumours are self-admittedly a bit of a game of telephone. For example he heard tomb kings were getting new chariots, but it turns out that was the kavalos chariot for obr. Those kinda of mixups.
>>98343150from what it was said it seems it's a whole new kit
How do steelhelms look beside the WGA guard kit? I want to add a bit more character to my cities
Come on GW stop fucking around and get to work on delivering the good shit already.
>>98343265...what, rimeworms?
>>98343370For mawtribes, yes.
>>98343265>>98343370>>98343396I wouldn't complain about neutral monsters on the field, even if the rules are more than likely going to be bad due to GW being GW, just for sole reason that we'd get some nice models out of it.
>>98342891Fluff wise I was always curious who has the best Cav.I figured in terms of raw power it's either Fulminators or Varanguard, but they probably fight more like gladiators than a coordinated unit.In terms of an organized unit, the Kavalos sound like a terror on the battlefield. Always loved when they talked about how they would have mortek fall to the ground so they could run over them to flank someone on demand, an animation showcasing how ordered the ossiarchs would be amazing.
Crunchy stuffhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lvu56agm/eat-the-mortal-realms-with-new-ogor-mawtribes-rules/
>>98343447Aren't there kind of rules for something like that in one of the path to glory books? Or am I misremembering?>>98343509Seems like the main gimmick is that they "eat" an enemy unit they've fought at the end of the turn to give that specific unit a set of bonuses.
>>98338857I have an intense desire to make an all female army named The Glory Holes.
>>98343532No you don't.
>>98343532And what faction would it be?
>>98343507I can imagine that kavaloi would be really nasty. There are a lot of historical examples of horses getting skittish and not following through with a charge. I don't believe kavaloi would have that issue.
>>98343507Skullcrushers and blood knights are also a good shout.
>>98343509The fat lads look nice next to the gorgers.
>>98343509>Alternatively, arriving with a Bloodpelt Hunter and a unit of Hunters So they made him a BCR hero Makes you wonder what the 3rd/4th warscroll was about? Just trying to push people to buy Gutbusters before they refreshed everything?
>>98343595I wonder if gorgers will be part of the mawseekers subfaction
>>98343595I like how their fat rolls are spilling over the gut plate.
>>98343509Anyone who buys Stonehorns is a sucker
>>98343623Never liked the look of the BCR beasties in any case. Which is a shame because I really liked the BCR rules in the first three editions.
>>98343623Luckily I only bought the thundertusk!
>>98343608it's basically for granted
>>98343665
>Monday>No new modelWhat's going on??
>>98343779they revealed heil hitler weapons 20 mins agoin 40 mins they will show either the ogre rhino or some other ulgy marinein 100 mins they will show either the other ugly marine or the ogre rhino
>>98343779It's coming in a bit, they said at the end of the rules article
>>98343779they said they were showing off the rhino in the rules article, chillthere's two more timeslots left
>>98343509If that is the meat of their rules then they are ok. By the destruction standards they are top tier, even. But I wonder if they still have a rule for mortals on a charge
>>98343608They were always connected, they are featured together and they don't fit that well with normal gutbuster. I think that they will keep them together
>>98343868they were always connected to a subfaction that didn't exist a month ago?
>>98343924just because it wasn't a subfaction it doesn't mean it didn't have models, fluff or a themegorgers are connected to the mawpit, the mawpit is connected to the maw, the maw is connected to the butchers, it's not difficult
>>98343924They were always connected with the butchers so they ate connected with their faction
Howdyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gkzepeuo/revealed-morga-the-mighty-stomps-into-view/
there it is
>>98343969So that's all the new Ogors shown off then?
>>98343969terrible
>>98343969>generic tyrant buildNeat.
>>98343969>>98343970Pretty good, but looks rather small.
>>98343970>>98343976The rhino definetly need patters painted on to not look bland as fuck
>>98343969I like her shit-eating grin but the weapon is too short. Generic wins
>>98343969The mount is kind of shockingly ordinary looking. And the generic Tyrant looks better at first glance. Even Morda's weapon is...lame. The mighty Over-Tyrant feared by all carries a crude stone mace? At least her relaxed pose conveys...something.
Obsydian thorne guy btfo
>>98343970>>98343969>>98343976Not great, but more importantly, definitely makes me feel like The Last World pivot is real. These designs just feel out of place unless we really are going pseudo-TOW-y
>>98343970Honestly the weakest piece of the release.
>>98343969remarkably subdued, all things consideredAlso holy shit eavy metal showing off
>>98343970>>98343976Closed mouth looks better for the beast
>>98344014>Also holy shit eavy metal showing offYeh, good luck recreating thos patterns as a noob.Might end up with some fancy golden demons seeing how much of a blank canvas that thing is
>>98344014>subduedGoes for most of the heroes they showed off. But the non-hero units are great, no complaints from me there.
>>98344001>Not great, but more importantly, definitely makes me feel like The Last World pivot is real. These designs just feel out of place unless we really are going pseudo-TOW-yWhat does that have to do with anything?I do think tlw is happening to be clear, but I don't see the connection here
>>98343969This mace is ridiculously small
>>98344034It's not the size that metters, it's how you use it
>>98343969>>98343976>>98343970why is the base so fucking bland
>>98343969Even 12 years later, I cannot escape the Siege Rhino.
>>98344034I was going to say, cool mace design but does not work for a mounted character like this.The generic tyrant has a big fuckoff cleaver instead which works better imo.
>>98343969She should be fatter but I guess it would clash with having a generic build so it's cool. I wouldn't say that named heroes were all bad they are the weakest part of the reveal. Funny how that works>>98343962
>>98344032The design language is very subdued, almost as if it was made for TOW instead of AoS, which fits with the new setting being TOW-lite
>>98343976The rider looks like he's going fast, but the monster doens't look in a hurry.I expect lots of Maw-Grunta conversions for the generic option.The chill named character fits the rhino better
>>98344053Yeah, she is getting a cleaver
Were the other new ogors also this green decorated or is this only a thing here?
>>98344058I mean, eh? I don't think AoS is full balls to the wall whacky in terms of models all the time, nor was/is whfb/tow always super down to earth (when talking about models). The new tow chaos warriors are more "extra" than the AoS ones for example
>>98343969Looks small and quite subdued, especially for a named character and faction leader. This is just like the Leadbelcher. The Mawfags are evidently the main focus at GW because they're the only big Ogres and only named characters with some uniqueness. This just reads as a haphazard rushed attempt to contrive character out of a generic build likes it's the End Times to AoS 1e jump
>>98344034Holy fuck she's bland, her and the cannon lady both being named characters but somehow not standing out at all.
>>98343969>She's stronger than the other Ogres because she's a massive girlbossWOKE >She's stronger than the other Ogres because she's birthed a personal army BASED
>>98344081Retard don't take bait
>>98344097I give anons the benefit of the doubt
Definitely can see why they left her out of the reveal show...
Wasn't she supposed to be the AoS version of picrel's daughter? Fucking hell what a downgrade
>>98343969The entire ogor refresh just gives me middle earth vibes. I don’t hate it.
Reddit was the only named character they designed and proceeded to give names to alt builds of generic heroes
>>983388571 elf six dogs. I think I've read this manga.
>>98344116Is has the rounded retard texture of LotR trolls to a lot of things
>2016: I sure do hope Ogres get a named character that isn't just a battalion modifier for a generic kit >2026: Here's your generic kit with a Named warscroll
>>98344118The leadbelcher lady doesn't have an alt build. This lady is the only example of a named and generic character sharing a kit
>>98344128Still an upgrade over nothing
>>98343969>HerWhat woman is this supposed to attract to the hobby again?
>>98344133Mental short cut. Ledbelcher one looks like they started designign a generic kit and made unit champion a hero instead
>>98344096I like that. Mother of the thousand youngs**fat bastards
>>98344142Why do /tg/ users have this concrete belief that female models have to appeal to hypothetical female customers? Did they never grow out of the "I can't play as a girl character or I'll be GAY" mindset they had as children?
>>98344143Yeah that I see. Doesn't even look much like a hero, let alone a named one.I do actually like the design, but not really for a named character.
>>98344143I expect she was part of Warcry before they scrapped that. We would've gotten Leadbelchers alongside a Blackpowder themed Firebelly, she'd be like 1/5 models are a Blackpowder Fanatic whose devotion to Firepower leaves them injured: this model fires a crazed volley instead of a regular ogor blast
>>98343969I like the generic guy.The special character is kinda... Boring honestly. And that's normally not the case
Can we add Warcry to the bingo
>>98343969>No BCR build
>>98344161Then why add women if it's selling fine without them?
>>98344183Does it happen that often
Ahh, I don't know whether I should get the new ogres or not. On one hand I have a scheme in mind that makes me kinda excited.On the other hand do I need another army?What to do, anons, what to do?
>>98344171Eh, ogres already had a warcry warband. I don't think they've doubled up on any faction, except for StD obviously
>>98344196The new box is 265USD apparently which is a fucking nightmare price, I'd pass DESU
>>98344201I think every new army would be scheduled for one in the next batch, or is that just UW?
>>98344185Yeah that kinda blows.
>>98344196can't you just grab one model or one unit for the sake of painting instead of a whole army?
>>98343970I thought this was the generic build
>>98344191Every thread. I'm very annoyed by it.
>>98344237What, warcry discussion in general or specifically "this unit was supposed to be a warband!" ?
>>98343970>>98343976Nice to see another body option, but you'll need to recast the legs to use the leftovers on a Stonehorn or something. Same with the Raiders.
Are ogres saved?
>>98344161It’s their cope regarding females being added to previously all/mostly male units/armies, or in places they weren’t in before. They lie to themselves in that ‘it’s just a marketing ploy’ when the truth is just that current GW does not like its current fan base of chuds and wants them gone
>>98344241>Warcry is dead >This was for Warcry >When will we get Warcry news/faq/etc? It's definitely bingo material
>>98344250>HrothgornNot in
>>98344034The combination of the gimpy weapon and that pose/expression just makes her look like more of a politician than a fighter, honestly. Which is ironic, given that they're trying to pitch her as meaner and more straightforward than her father.
>>98344250I don't get why we had to lose gnoblars, leadbelchers, gnoblars and the other underworld band
>>98344250Looks like they went throygh global warming.Now wait for the non-snow colours of the Beastclaws they already showed off
>>98344265I thought he was mentioned as staying
>>98344274Poor guys lost gnoblars twice
>>98344250Yes
>>98344112Globb Glittermaw was pitched as a brilliant schemer and also big enough to wrestle giants for fun. His daughter...uh, has sass, a small weapon, and weaponized fertility.
>>98344250BCR are looking a little anemic and the new heroes are a little short on flair, but overall it's a good-looking model range.
>>98344128Still better than nothing, but yeah, Reddit Mod is somehow the best of the named characters. The chicks are just underwhelming looking.
>>98343970They should've committed to the hippo design instead of half-assing it with a rhino mix. Also the bald look makes them somewhat ill-fitting for beastclaw armies. I feel like they thought mournfang where a bit too beastclaw coded and wanted some new animals that could fit both gutbuster and beastclaw, but ended up making something that only fits gutbusters now.>>98344252yeah, AoS, noted chud fan-favourite
>>98344291>Bloodpelt >Hunters >Raiders >Tyrant "New" additions >Frostlord, Huskard, Beastriders They only needed a build for the Glutthorn and perhaps to throw the Ironblaster in, which they may do
>>98344183No but seriously, hear me out. Every unit and hero ever added to the game from now on was actually made for Warcry first. Literally all of them.
>>98344302I like the hippo, I just wish the lady riding it wasn't the equivalent of boiled chicken with no salt.
>>98344250I just wanna see how the iron blaster gets updated. It’s the only piece of arty I care for besides ghorgons. >>98344274Gnoblars suck. They had no personality to begin with and always felt out of place. Nurglings do their bit better. Lead belchers I’m so-so on them leaving.
>>98344250Good update overall, but the named characters are mostly misses, and a distinct lack of love for BCR.
>>98344302I think just throwing some sculpted fur on them works but the lizard dogs are hopeless
>>98344316>Hunters >Maulbeast Raiders >Tyrant
>>98344286to be fair, they're small and easy to miss
>>98344186What a stupid thing to ask. Why add anything if it's selling fine without them? Are you gonna ask this when any army gets anything?
>>98343990I'm becoming convinced that one of GW's sculpting team lives nearby and works remotely. I swear I've seen that face in 'Spoons at least once.
>>98344250I like the change in proportion, but they lost pretty much all of their bombastic appeal to me. (The concepts of) Leadbelchers and Maneaters were the main draw for me.
>>98344161who's buying the product because it has ogre women?
>>98344360No one, which is part of my point. I don't get why that is treated with such gravity when it's ultimately about as important as if, say, a model had a halberd instead of a glaive. If I were posting "why did they give that model a halberd instead of a glaive?" I'd look whiny and crazy, right?
>>98344355Needs open mouth to have any aura
>>98344360Anon, we're on the internet, and moreover in THIS hellhole. There are several people unzipping as we speak.
>>98344340Answer the question faggot.
>>98344374you'll find people who prefer a halberd instead of a glaive you'll never find anyone who will prefer an ogre woman to a normal ogre mini
>>98344269Well, she leaves that to her kids. Article just states that her father was more into pacting with other races while she prefers domination
>>98343969Wow, it looks fucking stupid just like every single Ogre beast of burden
>>98344377Because it's just a thing that they did. It doesn't mean anything. There's no gravity or importance to it. Again, your question of "Then why add [x] if it's selling fine without them?" can apply to basically anything. If they dropped a Skaven cavalry unit tomorrow, are you going to ask "Why add cavalry to Skaven if they sell fine without them"?
>>98343969>another obese womanwho woulda thunk
>>98343969>>98343970Who’s decision was it to strip Ogor of all their flavor and character. Every one of their character sculpts sucks ass. Like I am sorry but we aren’t pretending this uninspired mess is good right? This is worse than the Red the Maww with how low effort and boring it is. This would be bad for a generic character, for a named character? Wow, awful.
I do actually like her bra.
>>98344420It's odd because I think some of the toned down designs are fine for the foot ogors, but holy shit why are the named characters so bland.
>>98344302>yeah, AoS, noted chud fan-favouriteIt was birthed from spite towards the grog centered WHFB, and also they continue it to keep said chuds out. For good or ill though it seems to be working, so it’s been spreading to 40k. I can’t speak for TOW tho even though I prolly should pay more attention there
>>98344250Aren't whfb 8th ed kits like the stone bull/ice mammoth getting legended ?
>>98344420The characters are absolutely the worst part of this release. Unironically, iron guts middle dude and hunter champion have more aura than any of the characters shown so far.
>>98344265I think he is. Would be a real asshole move for gw to unlegends a unit, shove him into a spearhead, and then legends him again a year later.But he is going to be very weird. Different proportions, only dude with gnoblars, even his cat is technically unique now since they gave the new ones a different name.
>>98344434Those two are sticking around for now.
>>98344434No? Why would they? It’s not like those kits were sharing bodies with the other designs. Leadbelchers are understandable because they were using the old bull bodies so they had to pull it, same for gnoblars.
>>98344443>Would be a real asshole move for gw to unlegends a unit, shove him into a spearhead, and then legends him again a year later.Everything else in the spearhead is
>>98344428I think the foot Ogors mostly look great, the characters look awful for a variety of reasons. The cannon lady and generic tyrant have really badly done heads (compare them to the Gluttons who look amazing) and red and the rhino lady look beyond phoned in. No interesting flair or „ soul „ to be seen. Compare these named characters to the generic TOW chaos dragon characters and it looks like the Ogor designs didn’t give a fuck.
>>98344250>Kragnos sticking out like a sore thumb at the bottom
>>98344374>I don't get why that is treated with such gravity when it's ultimately about as important as if, say, a model had a halberd instead of a glaive.But halberds & glaives are two different weapons used by two different historic groups used to get two different visual presentations of an army.If a sword is a sword- why not give your military a random mix of swords? Give a handful sumurai swords, a handful gladii, & a handful templar swords? Because that would look like shit- a hodgepodge of random weapons with no unifying theme or presentation that makes your army look like a schizo collection of figures rather than a force from a specific region.Which is the underlying issue with randomly altering the genders of your soldiers- what the fuck are you trying to say? What historic group are you hearkening to in your presentation?With the og ogres it was clear they were intended as a Mongol horde, so to help with the presentation they were all male becausr historically a Mongol horde was 99.99% women. So adding women to their ranks is meant to do... what, exactly? Take away from & dilute their interesting historical reference?>inb4 I look crazyPic related
>>98344464Forgot pic. Here’s a generic character. Compare him to the rhino lady. Rhino lady was 100% phoned in as they say.
>>98344433>It was birthed from spite towards the grog centered WHFB, and also they continue it to keep said chuds out.No, it was birthed from the need to make money. GW is a company that deals in hundreds of millions of dollars annually, they don't make decisions out of "spite". This isn't trench crusade>>98344434They confirmed they are staying
>>98344464>generic TOW chaos dragon characters You mean the dude with the fucked up skirt? Not even when mounted he looks good.
I miss Rerolling Ones. Best AoS battle report channel and it just vanished.
>>98344473It's just FB seems to have more people who actually give a shit. AoS has always been inorganic, stillborn.
>>98344473>Compare him to the rhino lady. Cant do that because this looks like a mess. I genuinely can’t read anything about him on the mount. I guess the heads would be cool if the wings didn’t look so awful.
>>98344411>It doesn't mean anything.It does, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to add it. >If they dropped a Skaven cavalry unit tomorrow, are you going to ask "Why add cavalry to Skaven if they sell fine without them"?No, I'm going to ask 'what are they riding and how does that fit in with the lore concerning how skaven make their beasts?' Because it's already in the lore that skaven make weird shit all the time we haven't seen yet- Orgres meanwhile have never had it mentioned they have women in their fighting ranks.
I am going to shelve my Fyreslayers and Kharadron and build a Skyre focused Skaven army.
>>98344485Me when I’m fucking insane
>>98344485It’s a funny thing how fb isn’t tow then.
>>98344463Only leadbelchers and gnoblars are legendsed between the two spearheads. A unit getting a refresh =/= legends. Though putting the fucking gnoblars in there was a bit of a meme to begin with, and even more so now that they're gone.>>98344473I don't like this dragon. To be fair, it is very faithful to the original chaos dragon design, but I just don't like that design. Neither do I like the stormcast dragon. To this day the zombie dragon (both the old and new aos version) are the only gw dragons I like.
>>98344473but this model sucks. Scales look awful.
>>98344470>Take away from & dilute their interesting historical reference?I think it’s very disingenuous or counter productive to reduce Ogors interesting historical reference to them being a sausage fest because GW 40 years ago never considered women models
>>98344474If they don’t make decisions out of spite and only financials are considered, then tell me how well those femstodes are selling. Companies will absolutely make ideological or emotional or whatever decisions even if it hurts their bottom line (as evidenced by trench crusade as you pointed out), and James is not immune to this. That said I do recognize that financials were at least half responsible for AoS and should’ve said that initially
>>98344491>Orgres meanwhile have never had it mentioned they have women in their fighting ranks.Lorelet. Hell they were mentioned as being a thing even in whfrp.
>>98344473Honestly I am a fan of the more subdued minis, like we have with new ogres, and I am tired of the overdetailed/designed shit that you posted, and hated having to spend extra time shaving details off CoS models.
>>98344511>Nu loreGood one.
>>98344510I’d ask what is spiteful about women getting to die horrific deaths more often in 40k but I’d rather ask why you felt personally attacked by that? What is this post lmaoo
Hoping there's a wave 2
>>98344517You’re in the wrong general then. /grog/ is that way there for you :)
>>98344517>”X never happened”>”Yes it did”>”NO NO NO NOT LIKE THAT”This is my favorite kind of posts from /aosg/ you’d be surprised how often this happens
>>98344520This wave is basically a wave and a half. I don’t think even edition starter armies get this much stuff sometimes.
>>98344509>because GW 40 years ago never considered women models... do you think GW didn't have the technology to sculpt women models if they wanted to or something? If they wanted to make them, they could have- they obviously elected not to with a specific intent behind it.
>>98344528Did I say they were incapable or that they didn’t care too?
>>98344527Still I'd like something to replace the yhetees.
>>98344506The stormcast dragon (from 3ed ed) looks like something out of a pixar movie or a toy brand for 5 years old. You just know that the person involved in designing it has latent furry tendencies. The chaos dragon however is great, as is the zombie dragon from AoS as you said
>>98344524>”Yes it did”It's still derivative of the initial question I'm asking- why change any of this? What's the intent behind adding female ogres?
>>98344517>WHF lore huh?
>>98344529>that they didn’t care tooExactly- THEY DIDN'T CARE TO- there was specific intent behind deciding not to.
>>98344470Look man the doylist explanation is simply that they wanted women in the army. Gw wants to present itself as a modern, progressive company. This shit has been discussed to death.Now while acknowledging that the above is the true reason for female ogres, they also make perfect sense from a watsonian perspective. Ogres are nomadic, the whole tribe moves around consuming everything in its path. There's going to be women. They're also obviously not really sexually dimorphic, and even if they were, even a somewhat weaker ogre would still beat the shit out of just about anything. And as Morga here shows, they don't seem to have any issues with birth rate either. It makes a lot of sense to have female ogre warriors, even in universe.It's kind of like racially diverse CoS. We all know the real reason is just a mandate from above, but within the logic of the universe it also makes pefect sense.(Also new ogres are vaguely chinese not mongolian, not that it matters)
>>98344534>what is the intent of a company who’s entire purpose is selling models and making money doing changesIf you spend maybe 5 more minutes thinking about it you’d reach the answer but for some reason the correct answer makes you feel stupid so might as well conspiracypost
>>98344530I’d prefer it if they just became ice elementals desu >>98344534No it’s not, there were already explicit material of female ogres. Now stop the larp.
>>98344532>The stormcast dragon (from 3rd ed) looks like something out of a pixar movieThe stardrake from 1st ed looks like it comes from Yu Gi Oh (I mean it as a bad thing)
They've never explicitly stated Fyreslayers wear underwear so I firmly believe they don't and no nu-lore can persuade me otherwise
>>98344538Yeah it’s called being British man in the 80s
>>98344532Chaos dragon is objectively awful just on the basis it’s as big as it is before the actual detailing comes into play.
>>98344473This guy looks overdesigned and bad, though. If there's one thing I do like about the new Ogre characters it's that they don't feel the need to add pointless detail to every inch of the model.
>98344518Is this what goes for bait nowadays? For shame
>>98344532>You just know that the person involved in designing it has latent furry tendencies>he’s still trying to force this meme
>>98344520I don't see a second wave anytime soon, but adding Maneaters as an EoE or next edition drop seems like the obvious move.
>>98344562What meme ?
>>98344542>Gw wants to present itself as a modern, progressive company.And they're failing in that regard- adding ogre women won't attract a single woman on the planet because no woman alive is going to look at these and go 'she is LITERALLY me,' meaning they won't attract the progressive audience they're apparently advocating for and this whole thing is, like much of the stupid shit this company does, utterly retarded and not well thought out.
>>98344557>it’s bait when I post something retarded and someone asks for clarification God I love this general
>>98344570Why are you still pretending that the only reason to add female models is to appeal to women? Are you that retarded?
>>98344510>Companies will absolutely make ideological or emotionalThose two are very different. Also despite the memes aos 1.0 wasn't all that "woke". Stormcast, khorne, fyreslayers, tzeentch, ... the earlier AoS releases had no women.
>>98344296>Reddit Mod is somehow the best of the named charactersWhich one is Reddit Mod ? All of them looks like they fit the nickname
>>98344570>because no woman alive is going to look at these and go 'she is LITERALLY me,Is this how you buy your armies and models? I don’t think you’re actually this immature or stupid enough to think this is how people think when they see models they like or appeals to them
Did the price in GBP (the king's quids) leak yet?
>>98344581Fyreslayers were patriarchal and it was great.
>>98344581Female Stomrcasts were canon in the lore from the very start of AoSDespite the lack of models in 1st ed, everybody knew it was just a matter of time before they got some
>>98344580fine, I should mention trans men, too.
>>98344583The guy with the Pot.
>>98344590It was nothing we literally never saw it in practice in a book or novel or rpg beyond them being a literal sausage fest. Not once did their patriarch society come up in any form of detail or depth.
>>98344586no but i would guess it's going to be £155
>>98344570>adding ogre women won't attract a single woman on the planet because no woman alive is going to look at these and go 'she is LITERALLY meYou’d be surprised. My gf was excited when I told her about the rumors about the new lady characters, she’s into the whole “witch that will gobble you up” trope or something along those lines.
>>98344583The butcher guy on his potmobile. He's named "Redd the Maw", so it's an easy connection to make
>98344571It is when you can’t connect point a to point b, and then go on a personal attackBut I forget this place is Reddit lite now so I dunno why I bother anymore
>>98344603You're entirely wrong but it's true enough women were quickly inserted as a subversive element. By 2nd edition we got stories of Bael Grimnir's newborn daughter set to replace him and that change had to be accepted but the initial core of Runefathers and Sons was inherently based on patriarchal ideas and the whole faction awkward orientated around it - expansion from the patriarchal structure That's probably why they're getting refreshed unlike KO which was a sausagefest in models but fluff wasn't so restricted
>>98344568Or and underworlds band, but that would be a single guy so I don't know if that satisfie anyone
>>98344468>Thinking CHADnos would ever follow anyone's aesthetics but his own
>>98344517Nu lore for the Nu game, unfortunately
>>98344648Wouldn't surprise me if they just stole MESBG work because that system is getting shafted to fuck recently
>>98344664I'm sure next year will be a big year for MESBG due to the Hunt for Gollum film coming out
>>98344468Kragnos fits better in ogres than amongst any other army in destruction
>>98344001>>98344058>late whfb 8th ed/End Times models share the design language of 1st ed/early AoS>4th ed/late AoS share the same design language as TOW/TLWlike pottery
>>98344673They should make a kit that lets a man crusher ride him.
>>98344664Very different design philosophies anon, unless we're talking about the concept art stage but even then.Like that one schizo who keeps saying bret foot knights were designed for CoS.
>>98344676Tow? You mean the one that doesn’t have an aesthetic?
Maneaters will be a band of three, gunpowder focused, guns or rifles with 1/3 being able to switch his weapons for a cannon
What would >(you) give nuOgres in their potential second wave anon? Yes they just got their first one, but I feel like greed is very on theme.Let's assume that maneaters and leadbelchers are getting merged like with the firefirst lady. What else would you give them in 5th edition? Let's say around ~5 more kits.
>>98344690Grell will only stand out if she's the only Ogre to use a cannon on her own, they'll use pistols and rifles
>>98344684Depends which army we're talking aboutFor most armies, the only new models have been special characters so i'ts hard to have a definitive opinionThe only one tobhave received a whole line is Cathay which for me is rather underwhelmingThe bretonnians are all over the place with great characters but also these hideous foot knightsHowever, judging from the recent chaos warriors which are great, it appears their plan foe the future is to take inspiration from 5th ed whfb models and to update their looks which is a surprisingly a fresh idea and which I hope will also be the design for other remade armies
>>98344684I think he meant the classical dark/low fantasy look of whfb
>>98344717>dark/low fantasy look of whfbLOL
>>98344705>Greed LRL got two full army waves back to back pretty much, CoS isn't far behind tbf >Yetis >Huskard on foot >Braggoth >Thundertusk refresh - Hunter, Huskard, Tyrant>Rhinox riders, smaller than a Thundertusk but bigger than Maulbeasts (because they are the generic Beastrider options as the Thundertusk is hero only)
when will we get the first proper nigger faction? I'm tired of these half-assed attempts, give me zulus on dinosaurs
>>98344705Resculpt Stonehorn/ThundertuskGutseer Priest on footBeast handler with like 3/4 beasts. Maybe even just more of those cool new cats.And aforementioned Leadbelcher/Maneater kit.
>>98344717>low fantasy look of whfbDark? Sure, though not always. But whfb being low fantasy is the biggest meme ever.
>>98344705More high fantasy stuff with magic. You gotta give them the obligatory endless spells 1 spell for bcr 1 for maw seekers 1 generic oneFlame belly into a tundra wizard that can be ice/fire themed I know this sounds weird but transition the bcr big mounts into like, specters? If that’s toobretarded then wurms, they fit both types of tundras. Have the new updated iron blaster mount have the cannon shoot out of its mouth or something.
>>98344680To be fair to that guy, the foot knights really looks out of place and are really disliked by most TOW playersPersonnally, rather than CoS, I would have said they were designed around the End Times period and intended to be released around that time but they ended up being put aside and re used for the launch of TOW
>>98344731Tow will probably inch closer to it with Ind or establish just for you.
>>98344729>LRL got two full army waves back to back pretty muchThey did not. They had their launch split, which ended up working in GW’s favor with Covid happening. Then got a pity hero in both 3 and 4e. There is literally no way they would’ve designed the second half in the year between. They initially had the same amount of kits come out as HoH but less units. GW said from the beginning that they had designed a ton of kits for LRL’s launch.
>>98344741Eh, Specialist Games Studio just has very limited experience making plastic models. It shows even with Cathay, the models look alright but they're way the fuck fiddlier to put together than they should be.
>>98344705>New Ironblaster >Leadbelchers, dual build warscrolls with cannons or mortars for variety >Maneaters >Maneater hero, not named >Firebelly (themed around Underguts and cannons instead of Maui)
>>98344746you reckon they will make estalia into fantasy al-andalus? That would be interesting, but I'd rather have full on naked chocolate men in leopard pelts than moors
>>98344676I would like so much to be a fly on the wall in the GW suits' offices and meeting rooms in 2021/2022 when they suddenly decided "Urr durr, even though we spend half a decade trying to sell that shit we need to reverse course and return to grog core"I'm so curious to know who exactly floated first the idea of TLW and how it was received originally among corporate guys
>>98344749Everything is designed up to five years in advance, GW releases are held up by production logistics you mong. They probably had the moulds and everything it was just a matter of warehouse throughout logistics
>>98344759I don’t know, I always found humanity in fantasy to be lacking either way.
>>98344752GW has a single person who has rolled every model for the third party mould manufacturers. He's been doing it forever
>>98344759Yes we will probably have fantasy al-andalus for TOW but since they retconned the crusade as being against the tomb kings rather than arabyans (sorry, can't have evil brown invaders in a game for year 2027 !!) it will probably be all about peaceful trade, immigration, cultural enrichment and mixing with inly racist estalians opposing it
>>98344760>2021/2022 Too early, it was after the release of TOW when they saw the sales that they decided to set in motion TLW
>>98344778it still in the older rulebook, so i guess we will have to see if they changed that portion in the revised book
>>98344517That sort story is actually pretty good And in the end, Strong Ogre woman would have lost but a very BASED autistic (maybe, hard to tell with ogres) essentially let's the human dude interfere to help the woman ogre in a leadership challenge because he like guns and figures helping the humans will let him get better gunz
>>98344705>mawpet/rimewyrm as prayer invocation >yeti redesigned to be a giant-sized sloth troglodyte, with an alternative build to be a hero for BCR>belchers+eaters obligatory kit>everwinter shaman>ogre pit-fighter (generic hero with hooks and blades prosthetics)
>>98344491>Orgres meanwhile have never had it mentioned they have women in their fighting ranks.But despite their rambling advance these ogres weren’t beaten. Far from it. Although none of his hosts had told Florin exactly what their strategy was, he assumed that they’d devised one. After all, it was anticipation rather than anxiety that glittered in their eyes.Even the females seemed to be looking forward to the fight. Florin found himself watching one such specimen with a sort of horrified fascination. Despite the freezing climate she wore little more than the males, and her bare breasts sagged over her fattened midriff like empty saddlebags.The hulking monstrosity caught Florin looking at her. The smashed contours of her face remaining as blank as ever until, horribly, she gave him an obscene wink.(Wild Kingdom - 2004)Where you even born?
>>98344778>racist estalians opposing itand mousillon going for a bizarro reconquista that leaves estalia ruined and a staging ground for the vampire coast
>>98344473I like both.But I agree the special character is boring.I love the monster hippo though, I can't wait to get three of them
>>98344705Aside from maneater leadbelchers.- yhetees- bcr monster refresh 1: hungry, angry beast that's like living avalanche (so stonehorn)- bcr monster refresh 2: mistical beast that lives inside the snowstorm, less monsterous and more magical thundertusk- mawseeker fanatics, who ate their hands so they could only attack by biting. If their hands grow back then they can become a butcher- mawseeker buff chariot, just one ogor that gorged himself so much before the battle that he can't walk now, inspiring the troops
>>98344786>he thinks GW isn't above behaving like the Party in 1984 and changing lore in the midst of an ongoing edition
>>98344250Just get rid of the shitty BCR leftovers
>>98344802>Bretonnia and Estalia have always been at war with Nehekhara, Araby as always been our ally !!
>>98344760>>98344781>AoS kills Fantasy >Fantasy rises from the dead and kills AoS The cycle will repeat until the end of the Kali Yuga
>>98344802the araby crusade are to big a backstory thing for multiple groups in the setting to completely retcon
>>98344781They were going for a whfb lite look for models as early as 2021 and Broken RealmsTLW was probably already an idea in the back of their minds
>>98344817They've already retconned it in the War of Settra arcane journal
>>98344813>New miniature announcement>AoS thread is plagued with borderline illiterate retards shilling TOW, as usualIt's an eternal cycle all right.
>>98344760I'm still waiting on the feature length documentary detailing the end times and the creation of aos. Get in line buddy
Do we know if new butchers are wizards? I wish that they were retconed into priest with 2 prayer lores, one for bcr and one for mawseekers. Then we can branch into a firebelly underguts wizard hero
>>98344854The last ten of so years have sure been a wild ride for GW and its products
>>98344801Yhetees should be changed into a single model unit, somewhere between a CoS ogre and CoS gargant in height
>>98344861>you now realize that AoS was born the year Trump entered politics and will end the year he leave office for goodbros...
>>98344858The reveal article mentioned a bunch of their magic so I'd assume so. >>98344884Nice job, though you'd really need to give the glutthorn some fur if you were to go this route
>>98344884pretty cool, it shows how out of place the nu-mournfangs look.
>>98344901>it shows how out of place the nu-mournfangs look.Maybe I have a brain worm or something but I genuinely think they're fine.I have more issue with the cleavers that they reused from the old kit.
>>98344887Trump…he was the key to AoS all along…
>>98344899Damn, I like their cooperation with khorne so it clashes a bit
>>98344901>>98344884I don't know, they look fine to me, in this paint scheme and in the reveale one
>>98344884I like that color for the Rhippo a lot more.
>yet another monopose behemoth You'd think they would've learned how shit that looks after BCR Just put some extra legs in the fucking kit Jesus Christ
>>98343976I know most people are talking about the named build, but this dude is pretty generic for what is supposed to be a tyrant. He looks less elite than an irongut, just kind of looks like a normal glutton on a big animal.
>>98344910They are fine, mournfang were always ass.A lot of the hate of the new stuff is the poorfags who got into BCR because it was the cheapest army they could get from 1st edition through 3rd, and now they got their army LEGENDed, so they are bitchy
>>98345005I don't know, he is massive, got a big fuck-off sabre and upgrade helmet. The only bad thing to say about him is that his (and her) gutplate should be more ornated
>>98345034I like their refresh but there might be some bias since I was filtred by their tusks way back when
>>98345034many of which are incidentally from poland
>>98344542I think that the fundamental problem is that the inclusion just feels lazy. While, yes, you can loosely justify why the OMT or CoS have female ogres or non-European looking ethnicities in them, their inclusion doesn't actually add anything meaningful to those factions (or the other factions where similar things are present - like the KO or FS).I'd be fine with female ogres and browns CoS if GW actually did something interesting with them. CoS, as an easy example, would benefit massively from actually playing up the fact that they're present pretty much everywhere. CoS should have unique units and characters source from the different tribes/cultures/peoples they've come into contact with and incorporated into their patchwork empire. Same thing applies to OMT. It's like, okay, cool, they have fat women now, but it doesn't really tell us much and it's not particularly interesting as almost every other faction does the same shit. Why isn't their a fat ogre bitch character with rules designed around other ogres fighting to win her affections? Why isn't there a unit of fat ogre bitches who eat weaker ogre males and gain buffs? Why is there no fat orge bitch lunch lady that heals other ogres at the cost of gnoblars? All I'm asking is that GW gives them roles in the society, and that those roles and idiosyncrasies get reflected, to some degree on the tabletop. Just do DoK, but replace elf women with fat women or blacks.
>>98344470>4chan brainrot actually convincing people it's immersion *breaking* if a humanoid species isn't 100% male
>>98345081Just say your into vore dude. It’s ok bud. And not every army needs to cater to your fetish.
>>98345081>Why isn't their a fat ogre bitch character with rules designed around other ogres fighting to win her affections? Why isn't there a unit of fat ogre bitches who eat weaker ogre males and gain buffs? Why is there no fat orge bitch lunch lady that heals other ogres at the cost of gnoblars?Because these are all fucking awful ideas. Less is more.
>>98345081>CoS should have unique units and characters source from the different tribes/cultures/peoples they've come into contact with and incorporated into their patchwork empire.Which you will only get as a straight to legends White dwarf rules, for such is the ways of moderng gW> Why isn't their a fat ogre bitch character with rules designed around other ogres fighting to win her affections? Why isn't there a unit of fat ogre bitches who eat weaker ogre males and gain buffs?This has to be a shitpost
>>98345081The people who care no longer work at GW. They have been replaced by inexpensive recent English grads who’s heads are filled with DEI ideology who care nothing for anthropology or cultural studies past what their professor told them about minority struggles in the UK. They don’t have the talent to flesh out these fantasy societies like the GW of the past did, because in the past the people writing the lore were anthropology and history grads.
>it’s this guy AGAIN with his retarded argumentIt has to be autism, doesn’t it?
>>98345124It's half a shitpost, half serious. I would rather see any attempted - be it stupid, goofy, whatever - than the profoundly lazy bullshit GW is doing now. >>98345126It's just depressing since it seems like they're actively regressing - like with the dwarfs. More male dwarfs being born than female dwarfs was an interesting little thing that helped seperate the dwarfs from elves and humans. That didn't mean you could never have female dwarf units, mind you, you just had to think about their inclusion. They could have been themed around Valaya - priestesses, defenders of the home, or brewers -, which would help flesh out and reinforce dwarf culture. Of course, GW sorts nuked that possiblity by making the KO pseudo-atheists and FS totally one note.
>>98345081>Same thing applies to OMT. It's like, okay, cool, they have fat women now, but it doesn't really tell us much and it's not particularly interesting as almost every other faction does the same shitSure, but that's not really the fault of the mawtribes
love all these disingenuous fucks acting like they don't get just as mad when non white male characters get what they view as undue focus. Will say the female ogors and multiethnic cities of sigmar characters need more fleshing out and then turn around and sperg over everything they've done with Tahlia>we're not all the same personuh huh
>>98345229>Tahliawho?
>>98344470>If a sword is a sword- why not give your military a random mix of swords? Give a handful sumurai swords, a handful gladii, & a handful templar swords? Because that would look like shit- a hodgepodge of random weapons with no unifying theme or presentation that makes your army look like a schizo collection of figures rather than a force from a specific region.You mean like my skaven have? Yeah. And I think ogres are closer to an unruly mob like skaven or greenskins than a "historical army" like empire or bretonnia.
jesus christ
>>98344570>adding ogre women won't attract a single woman on the planetDidn't this discussion start from me calling you retarded for even presenting this false premise? That's not why they do it.
100% of their customer base used to be men, a good 20% of which has transitioned into trans women since the birth of slaanesh. This is for them.
>>98344609>witch that will gobble you upOr the kindly ogre grandmother or, with gutseers being introduced, the fates, all three concepts are perfect for named fem ogres. Instead we got a bland matriarch and a character who blew her hand off.We could've had a diorama of three gutseers gathered around a corpse performing divination on a pie plate instead of the awful butcher.
>>98344884Surprisingly not bad
>>98344570i'm progressive and i voted (with my wallet) for this!
>>98345334Yes, GW has always been a 100% male company with 100% male customers. I would know, I'm male and I love total war, ArchWarhammer, etc
>>98345376>posts trish carden>her sculpts were 99% monsters and men>this somehow refutes the original argumentyou're a woman alright
Have any of the pdfs for 4th edition for the Sylvaneth, DOK, COS and/or HOS battletomes been scanned yet?
>>98345404Nay.
>>98345395>>her sculpts were 99% monsters and menThat one percent was quite something though
>Morga is unquestionably the most powerful and influential ogor alive – so great, in fact, that the conclave of Butchers have named her the champion of the Gulping GodI'm assuming there'll be a power struggle between her and Redd then
>>98344979How many Behemoths have customizable legs?
>>98345462The power struggle is between him and maneaters and he is winning hard
>>98344872Why?
>>98344641At what point did GW ever do a write up or show how the Fyreslayers being patriarchal actually affected anything or how they interacted with the rest of the world or cultures? Or was it a characteristic that was so shallow and nondescript that changing it would be like saying actually Fyreslayers are deep orange not red, never red? Because hear you post it I missed a shit ton of books talking about those dumbass midgets culture can you show me them?
What's an AoS army that I don't need to double-up on buying boxes for units? I can just buy one (whether that's spearhead or an individual unit) and be good.
>>98345521Why not? As it stands yhetees are more like 3 scrawny monkeys, while one huge fuckoff ape fits the Yeti thing better
>>98345577Seraphon or stormcast I guess? Especially if you count starter boxes.Idk you're likely going to want to double up on some stuff eventually, especially with reinforced units being generally preferred.
>>98345560There are only like 9 novellas + the WD story + Grombrindal. Sounds like you haven't read anything, though.
>>98345627I guess they might overlap with gorgers. I want to say that we could get another gorger variant, like cursed tyrant or broken butcher but it could very well be a bcr-themed ape monster
>>98345729Or maybe we will get a joke ROR with varghulf courtier
>>98345727Yeah which ones are specifically about their culture and how it specifically fucks with them or aids them because they’re patriarchal. I read all those books anon I’m still waiting for you to support your claim. Half the fucking runefathers and sons could be replaced with women and it literally wouldn’t affect the story or how the dwarves act because being patriarchal was never intrinsic to them like being psychopathic crusading warrior monks was
>>98345742>Ashes of Grimnir >WD June 2019>Grombrindal >1st and 2nd edition battletome saying women were rare, kept in holds off the top of my head, idk man read a book? What're you even arguing about I told you this subversion came in 2e, it's in the text. They could've just acted like the nomenclature was misunderstood and Runequeens always existed but they did the opposite - staring that things are changing, that they will change, probably because they wrote a patriarchal army with a sausagefest model range. I welcome the change but you're just wrong to argue Runequeens were a thing from day 1 or whatever stupid shit you're doing, you spastic.
>>98344470>specific regionThis is Age of Sigmar, there are no specific regions and there are no discernible histories, cultures, or ethnicities, there are only nebulous "realms," and everyone in them is a retarded mutt in a horrifically bad WoW/D&D-ified approximation of European plate armour.
Any chance anyone has the Ogor book scanned? I know it’s unlikely before Saturday at the earliest, but I’m a freak
>>98345791But enough about foot knights
>>98345792Slim chance. We had Ogor leaks few months ago and after that there is silence. We don't know the general rules or the unit abilities
>>98345791why do you keep posting armand callis?
>>98345792Anon the preorder for the box set was announced yesterday. We don't even have scans of sylvaneth and DoK yet
>>98345791retarded secondary
>>98345577Why don't you want to buy duplicates of units? I would recommend playing spearhead or 1000p. Or maybe SoB
>>98345791>European plate armourJust say plate armour. Europe didn't exist and the distinction of regional developments is an important part of history? >muh medieval europe Says the Mexican living in America. Sure, bud, I'll definitely take what you have to say to heart.
>>98345878SoB is probably the most duplicate prone army in the entire game honestly. You have a grand total of two kits.
>>98345878I'm stealing from my local warhammer store and they only keep one of each on the shelf I know when the guy takes a lunch break next door
>>98345891They have only two kits but enough units to make ok army with no duplicates
>>98345891I have no clue if it is possible to make a good 2kp army white using every kit at maximum once
>>98345781I’m arguing that their patriarchy was about as important to a Fyreslayer model or culture in the lore as the color of their toenails. Compare the Daughters of Khaine to them if you really want to know what a gender skewed society should or would look like as opposed to being represented and shown in two fucking lines in a battletome . It inundated in every single aspect of this faction and their lore and their models not some gay ass cop out of uhhh this is why there’s zero female models and zero female mentions and if a female shows up good luck expecting her to amount to anything beside a line of text. GW had every opportunity to do with the DoK that they did with slayers and have continued to not do it because the slayers patriarchy and expression was shallow as fuck. It was an afterthought and that’s being generous. Anyone making note or caring about this change when GW has done fuck all with it is a retard
>>98345920Making a 2kp army is very possible. Making a good one however...The op did specify specifically one of each box. I guess you could get one of the battleforces for say, sylvaneth, and then supplement it with additional purchases. Alarielle and drycha are both very good right now, which leaves you with like 1150 points you need to cover with the battleforce.
>>98345976>It inundated in every single aspect of this faction and their lore and their modelsAs are Fyreslayers? You can't bypass the sausage fest and any mention of women is buffered with "wave 2 eventually but hold your horses". I do agree they should've just retconned it early on but the consistent regurgitation of looming progress probably read well next to their inaction so GW have chanced upon a rare respect for the established canon CoSfags weep to think of.
>>98346041you don't get it DoK are matriarchal and only have female models but that's different from FS being patriarchal and only having male models because
>>98346047Warcry
What the hell is going on in here?
>>98346041>the patriarchy is literally disappearing due to an unironic magical cataclysm and I ain't gonna explain shitholy fuck, I forgot how much some bits of the lore are downright retarded
>>98343969>race of fat fucks>female is the "most powerful and influential ogor alive" and champion of their god>not even that fat by ogre standards>potentially has to contend with the prophet of the gulping godGreasus is rolling in his fucking grave at the state of his kind.
>>98346457GW is really acclimating to the US after that warhammer world in DC announcement, huh?
Loon boss is like the one model I absolutely despised but I actually kinda like now that I’m really looking at him. Wish the weapon was better though.
>>98346513You could always take one of the UW goobers for proxy
I kinda want to see what a zoo would look like in the mortal realms thanks to the new tyrant.
Whos dick do I need to suck to get the hedonites battletome
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>>98338857anyone got the Hedonites book pdf please?
