A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games."Count Dooku, a second B2 variant has hit the CIS roster." Edition>Adepticon roadmaps:https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/>Surprise Rocket B2 on 9/11https://store.asmodee.com/products/star-wars-legion-b2-super-rocket-battle-droidsPrevious: >>98289008Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBX-Wing/Armada/Legion/Shatterpoint:>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-transmissions/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/Latest Edge news:>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/Unlimited links:>https://starwarsunlimited.com/articles/>https://swudb.com/>https://karabast.netTQ: What kind of sick tricks have you/your party/your units pulled using jetpacks?Have you ever killed a jetpack-wearing jobber in a sufficiently spectacular and/or explosive fashion?
>>98343679>2nd edition didn't strike me as overbearing when I read it, what did they add to bloat it?scribd.com/document/370077678/Differences-Between-WEG-d6-Editions-2017-03-16Fragmented skills into highly specific sub-skills and added formal "Specializations". Players now had to track hyper-specific skills like Space Transports Repair or separate types of firearm mechanics. This forced players to micromanage narrow character sheets rather than relying on heroic, overarching archetypes. Character Points: CPs served a dual purpose: players could spend them to advance skills or burn them mid-game to add extra dice to crucial rolls (similar to Force Points, but on a smaller scale). This created choice paralysis, as hoarding points for progression conflicted with spending them for immediate survivalMandated that one die in every single pool must be a designated Wild Die. Rolling a 6 meant the die exploded (allowing you to roll again for higher totals), but rolling a 1 triggered a critical complication or subtracted your highest die. Many players felt this added unnecessary math, slowed down the resolution of simple tasks, and caused slapstick failures that ruined the heroic tone of Star Wars. For comparison, Mini Six kept the wild die, but only the exploding part when getting a 6, and ditched the blotching from getting a 1.Drastically multiplied the number of Force powers. To activate complex abilities, players often had to roll combinations of all three Force attributes (Control, Sense, and Alter) sequentially or simultaneously. This mechanical hurdle meant that playing a Jedi routinely brought the fast-paced game to a screeching halt while looking up rules, charts, and casting sequences.
>>98346003Also, 2e attempted to act as a strict physics and tactical simulator. It introduced comprehensive shifting rules for scale differences (e.g., a human trooper attacking a capital ship). By the time Revised and Expanded rolled around, scale adjustments required adding or subtracting massive quantities of dice to rolls, giving birth to the term "buckets of dice" where a simple resolution required rolling and totaling dozens of physical d6s.
>>98346016Open D6 clarifies you should never actually roll 30D. It's 5D+75. I think scale works better as a flat value anyway. I really need to get around to Dorking Hyperspace D6> t. D6 nerd
>>98346003>>98346016A little more historical context for all this to make sense, and to know from where this D6 lineage's DNA comes from. When WEG got Star Wars license, they weren't totally commited into doing actual TTRPGs, since they were more a wargame publishing company. It was thanks to Greg Costikyan that they switches more towards TTRPGs, Costikyan whom designed Toon, (the grandfather of Fudge and Fate), and who designed also Paranoia, one of WEG's firsts TRPG bestsellers, etc, through his contacts WEG was able to strike a deal with Chaosium, yes, that Chaosium, to design what became the Ghostbusters TTRPG. Since WEG owned the Ghostbusters D6 system, Costikyan, Dough Kaufman (and others) got the job of re-tailoring it for their newly acquired license, Star Wars. But Costikyan left and it was Bill Slavicsek who took the wheel and did the subsequent first Sourcebooks, giving some coherence for most of the lore that eventually became the EU/legends.So the thesis is that this sort of game was designed to be cinematic, not simulationist, tailored for fun, not crunch. I even know people who refer to WEG's Ghostbursters system as the most elegant streamlined design ever, and certainly it is good for what it is. These are 80s blockbuster movies.WEG's SW 2e (blue vader book) got out some time later, but with many flaws, that's why they made the revised edition later (millenial falcon cover). With time there were more streamlined evolutions to the system, like HyperspaceD6, and Mini Six's Imperium in Revolt. Not counting the multiple house rules shared by the community at places like Rancor Pit and D6 Holocron, google+ etc. For example, my favorite force simplification is the one called "Simplified Force Rules" but the document says "Revised Force Powers", and it focus only on the force powers displayed in the movies.
>>98346048>Open D6That's the thing, you said it, Open D6, Not WEG's 2e R, that clarification didn't exist back then through all those long years where 2nd edition and 2nd-revised were the only thing around.OpenD6, specially OpenD6 Space is what was going to be WEG's Star Wars 3rd edition (not to be confused with the shooting womp rats 3rd edition) if they would had not lose the licensing deal. Even Mini Six also uses this as an optional rule (and nobody reads or use those, despite fixing lots of the troubles). There are multiple tweakings to this rule, my favorite and more accurate is adding +7 for every pair of dice we are not going to roll from the huge ass pool. (instead of just +3 per dice)>t. D6 nerd too.
>>98346110I like static values (including flattened dice) being slightly weaker than rolls. It means the active party has the advantage. Admittedly, M6 characters *really* need to use cover and concealment in firefights.
it's kinda funny that talzin does more for ventress than her literal own son
>>98346211>I like static valuesYeah, static values are way better, and body points (hp) too.>Admittedly, M6 characters *really* need to use cover and concealment in firefights.Yup, that too, I like Breachworld's cover additions to the usual cover table, with the smoke/fog and light/dark, PICREL.
Oh hey, got here before the call to action to post minis. So post minis and terrain, anons
>>98346899Sorry, Anon. I was asleep when the new bread was made.But yes, you all should be posting minis and playing tabletop games
>>98347131Love the little house
>>98346003>>98346016thanks, great summary. I did notice the specializations when I read the rules and didn't get the point of them. Are they just extremely narrow skills? I expected it would give a bonus dice or something at character creation for the trouble, but doesn't seem like it>>98346084cool, I've also heard people claim that ghostbusters is a great game. I have a few of WEGs actual wargames too like imperium romanum II. They of course also made both a star wars miniature game and a starfighter game decades before legion and X-wing which is fun
>>98347421It was a fun board. The game was a total massacre, with my droids tabling the mandos at the start of turn 4. We played breakthrough.
>>98347498>thanks,yw!>I did notice the specializationsYeah, they are not exactly well done in SW2e, they come as taxing. They are narrow skills, and depending on how hardcore RAW you'll enforce them, you'll have to penalize your players when they try to do something they have not specialization at. I see stuff like that as WEG's effort to make the ruleset feel crunchier, less for kids? It was a bad move. I haven't read Gallant Knight games' D6 sytem: Second edition yet. I wonder how they tried to evolve this rule. But If needed I would go with the Mini Six way of doing them, combat skills don't have specializations.If I'm playing in a high trust table, I let them use their skills in a more liberal way, kind of like Fate aspects, but if I'm playing with munchkins I let them have specializations and quasi skills in the style of Mini Six.Another possible issue you'll encounter, If you are going to run this with a certain kind of table, you'll run into issues when having Jedi PCs, depending on their personalities I'd advice you to house rule, I let them have 'Force' as an attribute, without giving them extra attribute dice at char creation, then each skill pip upgrade could cost x3-5 instead of 1. Skills under Force could be the trad 3 force WEG categories, Control, Sense, Alter. Or try the quasi-skill thing, you'll see what fits best. If you let them have those RAW you'll have unstoppable demi-gods in no time, and the non-force-sensitive players will feel left behind (a Finn & Poe situation? lol)>They of course also made both a star wars miniature game and a starfighter game decades before legion and X-wing which is funI've read those ones are a better option to switch to if your spaceship battle is a big one, not the usual one-on-one.
>X-wing doesn't exist anymore>ships are pretty pricy>conversion kits are scalped to hellI'm still baffled. Why did they do it?
>>98347730>? It was a bad move.Oh, and I forgot to say, all that and more is why I don't play 2nd ed RAW. It ends being a house rules hodgepodge of 1ed(Revised)Classic Adventures, OpenD6 Space, HyperspaceD6, and Mini Six, (an Rancor Pit stuff, lol) It is quite interesting how after a certain amount of crunch was reached in the 2000s, the design tendency in the late years was to streamline the D6 systems, tuning balance, and the effort to make it play faster.I know lots of peeps get and swear on REUP, But I don't know how much of that is just collectors collecting and being completionists, it is a laudable effort, but a 500+ pages book isn't exactly the best to use at the table. So I consider REUP not an effort in design and depuration, but in amalgamation.
>>98347750Could you 3d print those? I read that there keep making better and better printers, more resolution.
>>98347759yes that's possible. Not every ship has good files, but many of them do. The major advantage of 3D-printing is that you can actually make every ship 1/270 scale. Major disadvantage is that it's a lot more work than the pre-painted models.
>>98347771I recently bought and painted some 3d printed Aggressors, and I am very pleased with the results
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>>98345762afternoon, SW is so comfy and I will enjoy it till I diealso a part two of the kotor movie is coming outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KTq7U3K7J0
>>98349260kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icMTIkDPXsc
So in the scene where Luke switches off his targeting computer and uses the Force, the mission control knows that he turned it off.This means there's some sort of a wireless communication between the computer on board of the X-wing and the computer all the way on Yavin IV.What are, like, the limitations of such wireless communication? The Death Star plans were a physical object that needed to be transported by hand.
>>98351163Presumably upload speed. It's not that they needed to be uploaded per se, more that they would be intercepted before the upload would be fruitful.
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>>98351359Also, the DS trench run occurs in the Yavin system, relatively close to Yavin IV (DS was in orbit of the same gas giant the moon orbits), whereas the plans needed to be transported from one system to another. Star Wars does have FTL communications technology (we see it in the films), but depending on the limitations it might not have been possible to safely transmit the plans. Like if you need a transceiver keyed to a specific receiver, there would have been a risk that if the Empire captured the transceiver they could use it to trace the location of the hidden Rebel base.
>>98353892Good call. Espionage OPSEC and ECM in an active space battle have very different needs.
>>98347318>A Muun got fat enough to be mistaken for a tall pale human in hopes of thriving under the Empire dies of health complications>Tragedy of Darth Plageuis The Wide
>>98357548That's a pretty funny character concept>Duros pretending speaking with a chink accent to get work at the Trade Federation>Iridonian Zabrak getting black tattoos toget in on the action at Dathomir Femdom BDSM breeding pits>Pureblood Sith getting her tendrils removed surgically and pretending to be a Zeltron for her whole life to avoid Jedi>Jawa somehow gets on a ship off Tattoine, gets lost, integrate into Ugnaught society but everyone thinks he has some kind of horrible eye disease>skinny Trandoshan or Barabel nerd LARPing as some other reptilian species to avoid the whole killcount-measuring cultureSky is the limit.
Has anything ever come of this guy?
So why would you need to powerwash the inside of that Mos Eisley Cantina?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZrBtBon04
>>98358825Man, disney star wars is so lame and gay
>>98358825He was introduced as a skeleton. Anything with him is just building towards that.
>>98346016>giving birth to the term "buckets of dice" where a simple resolution required rolling and totaling dozens of physical d6sIf you are actually rolling out the dice for some dude's 20D blaster accuracy against the 20D star destroyer hull then I don't know what to tell you.
Not to come across as cringy or edgy, because I know the blaster is such a strong invention, but are there any planets or societies that still hold swords in high regard? I'm essentially looking for the civilization equivalent of Teras Kasi or the Echani, but with swords. I'm looking for a group of people that train with swords so much that someone with a blaster could confront them, and the sword master could come out on top. Would my only option be the Teras Kasi or the Echani?
>>98362154My oc donut steel mando comes from a clan where for a battle to be truly honorable, you must bloody your blade. It is a custom originating from the mandalorian crusades, where they would duel jedi often. Thus the focus on swordmastery.
>>98362222I guess Mando is an option, but then I would feel very Donut Steel from Clan Eat'mor.
>>98357796I think Neimoidians and Duros are just the same species, different culture.
>>98362154Force and Destiny has Weik, it's basically a feudal world.
>>98346003TL;DR>I am a teeny-tiny baby-brained mongo retardo who just wants to make pew pew noises while pretending to be Han Solo, all this thinky-think stuff is BO-RING and what, they actually expect me to make choices and stuff? L-l-laaaaame.Goddamn you're an incredible twat.
>>98362324Technically they should probably be considered subspecies. Neimodeans are descended from Duros colonists from the early days of space exploration before modern hyperdrives. They were isolated from the rest of the Duros population long enough to genetically diverge from them and develop their own distinctive traits.They're still similar enough in appearance that after the Clone Wars gave the Neimodeans such a bad name a lot of them started to claim they were baseline Duros when interacting with other species.
>>98357796Reminds me of that Twi'lek guy from Aurra Sing comic who turned himself into a human woman
>remembering the Pantoran Assembly Old-Republican faction mostly objects to the Empire because Pantoran should be the ones taking the lead in civilizing the Outer Rim over the barrel of a blaster, and not some faggot from Seswenna
>>98365395Reminder: senate commandos are glorified mall cops. They are jobbers, having failed every single time they appear in the clone wars.Still, she cute
>>98365458Yeah but they look cool.
>>98365458>its actually Pantoran Assembly security ‘commandos’ and Sujimis sector anti-piracy forces larping (and waging minor bush wars) with clone war surplus they were supposed to scrap
>>98358904YOUR LAME AND GAY
>>98367210Chill, Mickey.
>>98367191Only good thing about season 3 is Paz's last stand
anyone played this game? https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/370913/star-wars-the-clone-warsHow close is it to pandemic? I almost want to get it for the miniatures but pandemic as a game never clicked for me
>>98368103No.
>>98358825Yeah he dies drunk and alone in a bookKinda based in a way
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I have fucked up royally. I cannot hold the brush still to save my life. What the fuck do I do. I'm never gonna be able to paint a fucking army. Holy shit. I just spent hundreds of fucking dollars to prepare for this shit, and it's all wasted. I paint like fucking shit.
>>98379836...Just take some white paint and go over the parts you accidentally hit with black? Paint isn't permanent anon, and you don't just slap one coat on everything and say you're done.>I'm never gonna be able to paint a fucking armyYou can, you just gotta find a process that works for you. Some people like to dedicate multiple weekends to doing big batches where you hash out each step, whereas some people just fully do 1 model every day or so and slowly build up their army. Figure out what works best for your brain and habits and do thatDon't doomer anon, you've got it
>>98377417Damn, a lot of people are making use of those Lightyear toys.
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The best era for rpgs is pre-prequels but only just barely. The galaxy is practically anarchic and almost anything goes.
>>98347771god the naboo fighters are just so sleek lookingpeople complain about the prequels a lot but a liked the clean and unboxy aesthetic so much
>>98358875>a single x-wingwhat a rip offand there's no way in hell two droids are power washing an entire star destroyer, even a small one
>>98362154i'm sure hunting cultures like the rodians, trandoshans and even gands have a traditional weapon methodology they still practice. though probably only gammoreans would regularly resort to a sword
>>98362154Adumar.
>>98379836You will get better, anon, try doing as the other anon saidThere is nothing wrong with being a beginner :)>stormtrooperNot wanting to paint white was part of the reason why I went with an entirely different scheme for my Empire. Could be worth considering if you keep struggling with the canon palette.
>>98346899this is my first ever army i've painted i'm rather proud of it actually
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>>98382741rebels definitely came out looking better than my imps, the camo and the basing came out really nice
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>>98382749Nice. Love the old starter set. What kind of list were you thinking of running in recon?
>>98382797i honestly have no idea i'm still figuring it out, Legion is the first wargame I'm seriously delving into. Right now I'm in the "I want all the characters and vehicles i think are cool regardless of stats" phase.
>>98362154The Echani
>>98382812That's how to do it. Get what's cool so you'll paint them.
>tfw just watched the Odyssey after having not have read it since high school Now I need the story of an Echani General trying to get home from Malachor V after serving under Revan.
>>98387041Why would you pay to watch that dogshit?
>>98387280What's wrong with it? I thought it was a cool movie, and Matt Damon was bad ass and Anne Hathaway was hot. And I didn't pay technically, I bought a movie pass because I wanted to see Spiderman too.
>>98387352Its a fantasy movie made by Christopher Nolan, an autistic materialist who despises fantasy and rips it out of whatever source material he's given. He did the same thing with his Batman movies but what he did with the Odyssey was even more insane because you can't take the esoteric and divine out of a story where the gods regularly waltz in and out and hand gifts/advice to the protagonist.To keep with the thread theme, might as well have gone to watch a remake of A New Hope where Obi Wan is just a madman in the desert and the Force doesn't exist.
>>98387371Anon, I guess you haven't seen the movie, but the movie seemed very esoteric and divine to me. There was a lot missing from the actual story, but then the movie probably would've been 4 hours instead of 3. You should catch a camrip of the movie if you haven't already.It's getting off topic though, so I won't bring it up anymore. As far as the thread theme, it's more like A New Hope, but Obi-Wan is more of the main character and he's haunted by Clone Wars up until he meets Vader. Luke would be B plot.
>>98387399I did see the camrip.Athena isn't even real and she's the only one who shows up. Half of Odysseus' encounters are glossed over and its own internal characterization is busted because it tries to paint Odysseus as a man who solely wants to save his crew when its him that decided to sail southward in the first place instead of Poseidon screwing him over.I could see someone giving a 5/10 but calling it a great movie is retarded. Especially with the shit dialogue.
>>98387352Racists are mad because in the scenes taking place during the Trojan war Helen is played by an African-Mexican actress instead of a blonde blue-eyed Aryan.I think it's obvious that the film isn't even going for historical accuracy, but with whatever the director thought looked cool. Considering the original story is a myth, I don't really have a big issue with taking stylistical liberties. Even ancient Greek art depiction the Iliad and Odyssey were historically inaccurate, since they depicted the characters wearing contemporary hoplite armor and not authentic pre-bronze age collapse styles of armor.
>>98387415Oh how I Iong for the authenticity of a Scandinavian Helen.
>>98387540Beware, there is a weirdo theory the Iliad and the Odysseys takes place in the Baltic during the Nordic Bronze Age.An idea, while highly gameable, sits in the stupid source pile.
>>98387572I remember that. IIRC it was started by an Italian engineer with no background in history and based purely on the fact that there's a Finnish town called Toijala, which sounds fairly close to the Finnish spelling of Troy (Troija).
How would the Odyssey even work in the confines of Star Wars, from a tabletop perspective? Would all the advice from the gods have to be the Force? Is there a reasonable explanation for a trip from one planet to another to take 10 years despite Hyperspace travel existing? Would the "Odysseus" character need to be force sensitive to even get insight from "the Gods" (the Force)?
>>98387352If it didn't have nolan's name attached nobody would have gone to see it, it's dogshit that looks like a fanfilm of warhammer and insults the source story at every step
comfy
>>98345762what would you wanna do in. the SW universe? I feel like I would be a bouncer or some ship worker on a pirate vessel or just some body guard to a mid level merchant
>>98389839protagonist force user that goes on wild, larger than life adventures across the galaxy, explores various planets, assembles a loyal team, gets a smoking hot waifu-love interest and kicks the ass of a menagerie of low, mid and larger scale villains
>>98389839merc/hunter fucking around during the clone warsbasically free reign to make infinite credits if you're not trash at what you do
>>98389839star fighter piloti don't care if TIE fighters are made of paper mache and dreams I would 100% go straight to the imperial flight academy as soon as I could
>>98387853More like a hyperspace jump goes wrong and dumps the ship in the wrong system, then blows up.It takes years to crawl across the weirdo places listening to vague hunches to get home.
>>98389839Desu, these new Legion artworks are pretty baller.
>>98387853>>98392672>Old Republic Era/Pre-Republic Era>Jedi Master Odie Seius traveling with his crew of Jedi Knights, after a war against the Sith>during the War, a Sith Temple was so well fortified that they couldn't assault it>Master Seius comes up with a plan, to fake a mass fall to the Dark Side>Jedi duel amongst themselves outside the Temple walls, provoking the Sith outside>once the Temple gates are open, the Jedi rush in and the Sith are slaughtered >Master Seius realizes that this plan pushed his Knights extremely close to the Dark Side, by breaking the Jedi Code>after taking hold of the fortress, Master Seius and his band of near-fallen Knights leave back to their temple>in a bad twist of fate, their hyperspace jump goes wrong>they land on an unknown planet, and injure a shepherd >the shepherd was actually the son of The Son>hyperdrive gets fixed, but The Son launches them into a series of [The Clone Wars: Mortis Arc] like events that shake and shatter the crews faith in the Jedi CodeHow did I do?
>>98389839i'd probably nerd out trying to learn about every species i could find
So are we expecting any Star Wars news from SDCC?
>>98393951I'm honestly not sure, did the Legion release schedule mention if/where they might show anything?Shaterpoint, maybe? But I don't know anything about that, I'm here for TTRPGs and starfighters. Both are dead.
>>98393904being an anthropologist who explores the galaxy would be cool
>>98345762Imagine being a low ranking officer on a comfy star destroyer in the outer rim doing a patrol route.....kinda needhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqiun9_qN8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V4dbqRuHw4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swZXhKLWY8k
>>98346899Vehicles are so much more fun to paint than troops it's not even a contest.
>>98397576looks great anon, how did you get the mud on the basing to look wet?
>>98397666Rinox hide, mortation grime wash over that, a bit of ak wet mud splatter and finally a satin varish over all over.Sweet Rebels too, jungle/forest/swamp themes for minis are my favourite.
>>98397576I love that roughed up pewter. I've got the truck painted up but the ship is still on deck to paint.
>>98397576Nice :]It's cool to see that the /swg/ legion community seems to be growing.
Recently picked up the Separatist starter set for Legion, along with a box of Commando Droids. Any recommendations for fun units? Was looking into Magnaguards and the custom Super Tacticals.
does the empire maintain some sort of representation on planets were they have troops/ships but were the planet already had a civilian government when they were part of the republic? Or do they just install a governor and call it a day? What would that representation be called? Especially before the senate is abolished, since having a senator implies that person is representing their local government?
>>98399253Custom super tacts are spectacular. I'd also look into getting Aqua droids and a spider droid.
>>98399500COMPNOR and their departments would be the functionaries of the empire.
Damn. I guess it’s clear why they aren’t showing anything related to zero company. Every single thing they’ve said about it is disappointing. >not going to be a full xcom experience in the Star Wars universe: will be mobile game tier slop for 60 dollars.Only positive was the forced main character is customizable, but given the sound of everything else, it’s just going to be a reskin.Never tried canceling a pre order before.Can’t believe I had hopium.At least the cutscenes this game seems to be a vessel for might be good looking on YouTube shorts haha.
>>98400922Don't buy pre-orders in 2026. Should have learned that years ago.
>new novel detailing Luke training Leia, + a trip to CoruscantYay!
>>98345762>barriss comes back after 11 years>draws no special reaction from the grand inquisitor, who was at her trial, or vader, who lost ahsoka because of her>quickly dumped an interesting inquisitor arc and seemingly plot armored through a lightsaberBravo Filoni
>>98401906>Disney shitting up the next bit of SWI can't wait for Luke to sit in a corner while Leia does everything with her New Friend who happens to be the usual Non-White Lesbian Girlboss.
>>98402088>draws no special reaction from the grand inquisitor, who was at her trial, or vader, who lost ahsoka because of herShe clearly is not Barriss, her face is totally different.Thys just took some random green girl and put her there.
>>98401262I never do. They got me. Only time I’ve bit the hype for a game since jr high.The fact the rpg system seemed to be getting ported AND everyone was saying “x-com star wars” fooled me. How could that not be great? How could I not support it?Why have a aaa company like EA make mobile game stapled to cutscenes? In current year???Unironically told myself>triple a rts Star Wars in current year ooooooo!!!!!!Duped into a money laundering scheme where the sales I mean buyers lol won’t matter. >150 planets !!!11!!>actually only 12 maps>50 hours of campaign for average playerAverage lobotomite who buys Star Wars games in current year lol. Playing a mobile game on your pc. Fucking bugmen market.
>>98402088This is New Republic propaganda. We all know that Barriss actually became Seventh Sister.
>>98402088>>quickly dumped an interesting inquisitor arc and seemingly plot armored through a lightsaberI mean it's the second law of Filoni's storytelling
>>98400922you might be a retard if you think it's anything like a mobile game
>>98402088>draws no special reaction from the grand inquisitor, who was at her trial, or vader, who lost ahsoka because of herTo be fair, that's the entire point of Disney's Inquisitors. You have no name, you are just a number. You are cannonfodder who will die doing the piddling crap that Vader can't be bothered with. And if you get any funny idea's about "Gaining Power" or anything like that, you die sooner.This is why i hated Kenobi, they had an interesting new idea for Inquisitors, one that makes a lot more sense than Legends (Because, for some reason, in Legends, the guy who refuses to have anyone that can rival his power, constantly surrounds himself with hyper-competant, powerhungry madmen.) And they couldn't even keep THAT consistency. Black Inquisitor should have just been a number. That's it.
>>98401906sorry, 'beth', you faggoty tranny, lez been, 750 lb whamalo, but we already covered that arc in real star wars.
>>98388886DAILY REMINDER that anything after the shitneywars buyout is star wars. make your own thread for shitneywars
is NOT star wars.*FUCK Disney.
>>98362154The Tapani and their light foils!
>>98399524Picked up the Super Tacts and some Magnaguard today, going to get a Spider a bit later on.Nos to decide on what to do with the Magnas.
>>98402925>no gameplay footage >all footage is cutscenes>publisher confirm everything in game is just box text, pngs, and skin swaps stapled to a nothing burger “plot focused game”>will not be Star Wars xcom, mass effect, or bulders gatelol. sorry to tell you this but you’re fagtarded. the game is png collector #6 gorillion just “for pc” instead of mobile.
>>98406863Trying WAY too hard /v/ermin
I want to make a Rodian edge of empire character but I'm not sure if I should try to make him not appeal to the usual stereotype of Rodians or just go all in and be the most stereotypical bounty hunter jobber a Rodian could possibly be
I love her so much bros
>>98407385not star wars. retarded fake and ghey.
>>98407392didn't ask for your subhuman opinion
>>98400922That's genuinely tragic. That game seemed very promising.>>98407385She is pretty cool, all things considered.
>>98407398lol. strong words from a fucking disney dihorrhea eater.
>>98407411uh oh subhuman sperg melty
>>98407138Play a lady rodian and see if/how that makes even the stereotype feel fresher
>>98407437you need to space your shitposts apart, you're not supposed to be getting mad when you post bait, you're trying to make OTHER people mad
>>98403430>Because, for some reason, in Legends, the guy who refuses to have anyone that can rival his power, constantly surrounds himself with hyper-competant, powerhungry madmen.Yeah, as much as i love Jerec and all of them, they all seemed a little too competant for the "I found an apprentice who was actually stronger than me, so i literally trapped him in a suit that nerfs him to fuck so he won't overthrow me" guy. Then again, maybe, just like the Prequel trilogy, someone made a bunch of shitty storytelling decisions and then, later on, someone came around and framed it in an actually good way to make people like it. Don't get me wrong, i like the cannonfodder Inquisitors, makes perfect sense from the Sith mentality. "I only need 1 apprentice, so every other force user is either a rival or a chess piece to be sacrificed for my gain." But a lot of the Disney stuff that actually works seems to fall into 1 of 2 catagories:1) Lifted straight from Legends and given a new coat of paint2) Someone made something shit and then someone far more competent found a way to make that shit work.
>>98407385>Disney
>>98407385mando was not bad, the grogu stuff dragged on for too much. The jack black and lizzo episode was actually fun and reminded me of a 70s star wars comic
Star wars :)
>>98412550Imagine being an officer on a star destroyer far off on the border of the unknown regions
>>98413810occasionally not that alone...
Just bought the CIS starter pack for Legion, what else should I buy to add to it? Trying to start and I am a fan of Grievous
Choose your clanker, star wars man
>>98414070Or zomb
>>98414019Magnaguards are an obvious pick to pair with Grievous.Super Tactical Droids (either customizable or Kalani) can help him control his army more easily. STD are easy to include and can make any CIS army better.After that I'd just take what you like most.Sun Fac is cheap as fuck and can also be added to most armies really easily.If you want more melee power a unit of BX droids with Asajj is fast and can fuck up most things.Spider Droids are very flexible: they can be short-range flamethrowers to mess up infantry, more expensive long range ion artillery to disable vehicles and droids, or just use the basic laser cannon.Also it's a boring answer but I always advise people to try a starter game to figure out what they like. Do you enjoy Dekas, B1s or B2s and want to spam more of them?Do you feel you'd enjoy a faster unit like Wheelbikes or STAPs?Would you rather have a big expensive tank like the Snail or AAT?Do you want more melee dudes with Grievous, like Magnas and BXs?That's the kind of thing you only get a feel for after playing.
>>98414070Team A: prybaby and pathfinder scout ahead. Team 2: cudgel and Watts sweep the decks.
how did the nihil manage to be a threat to the republic at its peak
>>98415735They were a badly thought out plot point by bad writers for a forced 'era' that nobody cared about
>>98415735They are the equivalent of Native Americans and terrorists at the same time.The Sioux never threatened DC but did defeat scattered and isolated US (or Canadian if we are talking about the Métis and the Red River Rebellion) army units.Islamic terrorists either did terror-causing but limited strikes on civilians/lightly defended military facilities or get rolled by a half-way trained and motivated force like the Kurds.
In both cases they are a persistence annoyance that requires sending military forces cautiously into unknown and far away territory.
>>98416022>that nobody cared abouteverybody constantly sucks off the old republic and the eras between it and the fall of the republic
>>98416307>everybody constantly sucks off the old republicOK, maybe I'm not everybody. I don't really mind (Ko)ToR, but it's all just way too obviously done to be !not OT, instead of being its own thing.> the eras between it and the fall of the republicthere is basically a great blank, so I think they wanted to fill that?Anyway, what they did was badly thought out, incoherent, and not well supported.Instead fo cool High Adventure with Jedi Space Monk-Wizards in Space, we got some random books that more or less flopped.No games, no videogames, I think tehy tried a comic. No cartoons, no movies, and teh TV series that they sorta-kinda placed in that era was the doomed-by-horrible-writing Acolyte.The entire High Republic thing hd a plot that was worse than the original ToR plot, and that was a fucking 2010 MMORPG aimed at 'beating' World of Warcraft.
Visually, would Chinese Wushu or Japanese Iaijutsu/Kendo swordfighting be the most aesthetically pleasing combat to watch between two lightsaber combatants? >inb4 hemafags
>>98416381>The entire High Republic thing hd a plot that was worse than the original ToR plot, and that was a fucking 2010 MMORPG aimed at 'beating' World of Warcraft.I don't think the original TOR plot (the class campaigns) are particularly bad. They're clearly designed to give you the "class fantasy" of playing as a Jedi knight, a Sith lord, a bounty hunter, etc. and for the most part do that. It makes them fairly generic since they more or less have to let you go through iconic plot points that you'd associate with each class (surprise, surprise, as a Sith you'll have to eventually kill your master and take his place!), but they mostly pull those plots off well enough.
>>98416736Well yes, that was my point. ToR had a good plot, but it's still a 15 year old MMORPG.And what Disney did for High Republic was worse. They didn't think they needed good writers, they didn't think they should get feedback for their proposed designs and stories, they just fucked it up and doubled down on failures instead of correcting course.
>>98416381They tried a video game but they hired david fucking cage to do it and he's getting the shit sued out of him for being an amateur pervert so hopefully it'll never see the light of day
>>98416733>inb4 HEMAfagsyou had to put this in because you knew it was the right answer and you're a seething weeb
anybody here tried that regiments ttg?
>We need to go to Tython!Old Republic glazing never stops, it's insane
>>98417725I don't know what's worse, blatant Old Republic glazing just to try to get EUbros to pog, or that it's taking place in a Sequel novel.
>>98417725Isn't Tython more from the Dawn of the Jedi comics, which take place before the Republic? It appears as the Jedi starter planet in SWTOR, but otherwise doesn't really have a presence in the Republic era.
>>98415630Decent strat. Send the utility and survivalist ahead to shape the battlefield for Cudgel to disintegrate everyone with Watts powering his main.>>98414070Choosing droids. Pit Bros and Prybaby rigging a funnel to herd the zombies into a narrow avenue of fire for Stormer and Cudgel to kill anything that shuffles forward. Easy mode.
Name a worse EU jedi character than bastila shanI'll wait
>>98418153Satele ShanShe's a lesser Bastila
>>98418153What's wrong with Bastila?
>>98418153Mace Windu
>>98418153Vrook Lamar, and I don't care that Ed Asner voiced him. His dogmatic view of the Jedi and the Code led to the near destruction of the Jedi Order, save for the Exile and her followers. Even Mace Windu has better characterization.>>98420574Wrong. Vrook is Mace, but taken to a way higher degree. At least Mace is cool.
>>98418053It's literally the starter planet for the two Jedi classes in TORtanic. Satele Shan rediscovers it after the Jedi Temple gets fucked by the returned Sith Empire and moves the order there to hide like sissies.
>>98421179That still means it's relevance in the (Old) Republic era boils down to starting location of two classes in an MMO, and (lore-wise) the place the Jedi order stayed at while the temple on Coruscant was being rebuilt. Meanwhile the Dawn of the Jedi is an entire comic series taking place on Tython explaining the origins of the Jedi, which was at one point supposed to have a Disney+ series adaption under development (though it's been a long time anything's been mentioned of it so it might have been canceled). So the odds are that references to Tython in a novel are intended as Dawn of the Jedi glazing (possibly to tie in with the series if it's still being worked on, or was at the time of writing), rather than TOR glazing.
>>98420602Vrook is the Jedi. He's not an aberration or a counterfactual, he is what the order will always ossify to, because the Jedi Order a hierarchy that embeds itself into the imperial core of the ruling government. The Jedi are janissaries. They're also the feds. They were always going to be possessive of their power, of wielding it, and being afraid of losing it. That's why Yoda starts the Clone Wars with Geonosis.
>>98422207Let's be honest, Vrook never would've launched a rescue mission for Obi-Wan and Anakin, and he definitely would've been vehemently against using any army. I wouldn't conflate Yoda's choice with Vrook's actions or ideals.
>>98416052If the Lakota or the Comanche had numbered in the hundreds of thousands instead of just in the thousands in the 1800s, they would have prevented the westward expansion from leaving the wooded areas of the eastern US. But the Plains also didn’t have the ability to support that many people living their lifestyle., so it was never actually a threat.
>>98414269Very very late, but thank you
>>98387540tbf it's no longer the bronze age and fair-haired meds are hard to find.
>>98407385
hmmmm
>>98425340truly one of the best pics out therealmost makes me dizzy
>>98425355I'm sure she failed to repopulate Mandalore again.
>Players spend 3 sessions fighting through ancient sith subterranean tunnels to outflank their warlord enemy>After a grueling fight, losing a PC and half their first wave of troopers they make it to the heart of the enemy base>Immediately tard out, split into four teams with no clear goal or direction>Decide to attack the base head on after some minor sabatoge>Are currently figuring out how to bail without losing more peoplePlayers are funny, sometimes they outsmart me and sometimes they just brute force it and hope it works out
>>98362222>Blonde plait Uohh
>>98422207>t. Karen Traviss
>>98430118Subtext is hard for you, anon. I understand
>>98418153Waru.
>>98389971
>>98345762Attention all citizens of the republic!Your territory is now back within it's rightful place under the auspices and dominion of the DnD Empire!>>98430053
>>98416381Original KOTOR was fineBut yeah it's clear the further it went the more it just became "wanna play Star Wars but with no consequences whatsoever because none of the actual film characters are here but their equivalents are?"
>>98389839>kicking a solid metal door which slides open#Justconscriptthings
>>98417725Tython already showed up in the new EU, I think in a Doctor Aphra comic so this is hardly a new thing
>>98434081You don't have to go digging. They casually visit Tython in the Mandalorian.
I've been looking at the commanders and operatives of each faction for Legion and it seems like a misstep to not have Palpatine as a commander for Empire or maybe a CIS variant
>>98435069>PalpatineAnon, I....Palpatine was in the game, but LFL asked AMG to remove him. They apparently did not like the idea of creamy sheev running around the battlefield, zapping rebels on random, shitty planets
>>98434469ill be honest i forgot about that mostly because it was just a rocky hill in the show and not a big forest biome it is in TOR
>>98435342Removed 11 days before his ass was in Fortnite. AMG ain't got that Epic money
>>98435342Which is a load of bullshit since disney themselves put out a novel where palp and vader alongside some royal guards get black hawk downed on ryloth.They even just put out a novel last year where palp assigned some royal guards to follow/spy on vader so removing royal guards also makes no sense.
>>98403430>>98408086In Jerec's case, wasn't the point that he wasn't actually somebody who could rival vader or palpatine? The only reason he's a threat is because he's going up against a guy who just found out he can use the force and picked up a lightsaber for the first time. If Luke heard about what he was up to, he would have been taken care of long before he ever got near the valley of the jedi.
>>98439111Jerec was a pretty high ranking inquisitor even before the Empire fell. Only thing that kept him from being out in the field kicking ass is that his specialisation was sith artifacts and interrogation.
>>98425340Mandoloreans aren't filthy whores.Yet more noncanon Disney hatefiction.
>>98434081There is no 'new eu'. Everything after shidney buyout is noncanon, disneywars is NOT Star Wars. Never will be.
Recently picked up Imperial Assault, looks like a lot of fun, despite being out of print. Anyone else have experience with the game, thoughts on it and it's expansions? I've been slowly picking them up too as I find them at not outrageous prices.Also is there anything glaringly overpowered I should be aware of to avoid? My friends and are going to be pretty casual with this, but I'd like to avoid something broken ruining our fun.
>>98445059>larper can't even spell properlyback to >>>/v/ with you
>>98445214Mandolorean is the correct spelling.Mandolorian is retard spelling.
>>98445942ESL and retarded, what a shock!
>>98445942It's Mandalorian even in the old EU comics and books you fucking larper lmao
>>98445971>>98445997Because editors and proofreaders are retarded.
>>98446169Nope! It's always been mandalorian, mandolorean is a misspelling you fucking larper
>>98446169First mention of them in anything other than concept art, spelling in concept art was the same btw
>>98446237>Boba tired of fighting other people's battles>becomes bounty hunterIs he stupid?
>>98451020a character can only be as smart as their writerand unfortunately for boba he was fleshed out by 80s marvel writers
>>98451020well maybe bounty hunting looked easy and ike a good way to make money after a full-blown galaxy wide warand the Sheevster probably did't pay very well
>Trying to make a Slicer for FFG>"Maybe a Neimoidian would be an interesting pick for the species">Read up on them since don't actually know much about them>Every possible scrap of info on them just details them as being a greedy, virus carrying, scheming, cowardly, awful, no good, worthless bastard race that most people were happy to see get genocided>Literally not a SINGLE redeeming factor to them other than 'they're intelligent'Jesus some species really cop a bad rep.
>>98451020I suppose as a bounty hunter he can usually just choose his target from people who have bounties posted on them and do things his own way, instead of being part of a chain of command and taking orders from up high.
>>98452748>Neimoidians are what happened when Duros decided to get a containment planet for the worst members of their speciesThey are basically a cross between chink bugmen and aussie shitposters, no wonder the whole galaxy hates them.
>>98452748All the non-asshole Neimodeans just pretend to be Duros cause it's easier than having to explain to everyone you're not like that asshat Gunray guy.
>>98452896>Can just use my normal aussie voice and it won't be out of characterBrilliant>>98452929The idea of introducing myself at the start of a campaign as a Duros and then potentially at any time being outed as a Neimodean if my character manages to cave into their bad habits or bumps into an actual Duros like pic related sounds equal parts hilarious and kind of interesting
>>98451020That's fighting for money
>>98345762Question for those who know: was Saxton the creator of the Venator/Acclamator/etc naming convention following the work of Geoffrey Mandel?
So did people even bother watching that Anime?
>>98461072I made a thread in /a/ about it and it's still up. I liked it. It was a lot better than I thought.
>>98379836Brace your brush hand with your fingers on the mini, instead of floating your hand. This will help steady you. Also try adjusting where you hold the brush
>>98461072Honestly, them choosing a completely agnostic timeperiod with no connection to anything else in the Star Wars Universe gives it a lot of Old Republic vibes... But in kinda a good way. I'm not saying i'm a fan, just... I don't hate this. Then again, i'm only 2 episodes in.
Play Legion and other tabletop gamesPost minis
>>98463121Uh, tabletop games? Hello?
>>98465686Cool brown Dooku.I wish I had time to play Legion but summer is always tough for painting or getting games in.
I want to get into Star Wars Unlimited. Is grabbing both Secrets of Power decks a good idea? Will they make for a balanced intro experience and a base for future competitive decks?
The best/ideal SW work that we could have at the moment would involve>Sam Witwer providing the lore, story and "feel"/soul of SW>Gilroy providing the writing, cinematography and directionChange my mind. You know I'm right.
>>98462378The very first episode shows a destroyed Corusant and wrecked Clone Wars-era ships, so it's clearly meant to be post that, maybe in a Gundam AU kinda way were a lot of them are meant to have UC Gundam in the distant past but don't really focus on that at all
>>98466388What i meant was more a case of "Wherever we are in the timeline, we've never been here before" So, we're not going to see any familiar faces. Maybe a few namedrops of characters, possibly someone in a holocron. Much like in Old Republic with Jolee talking about his adventures with Nomi Sunrider. But realistically, i doubt they have the rights to any of those characters, so probably not. Point is, I'm happy to see the galaxy in a new light. Coruscant is fucked, implying the Republic is either gone or relocated, i'm curious to see how the Galaxy got to this. Although i also doubt we are going to get that story.
>>98465889they are a lot better than starter decks for some games. I like those decks and they'll give you real games against casual LGS caliber decks. If you plan on playing at an LGS, they might be a little weaker than other choices, but if you want to just learn the game or play at home, they're great.
>>98466388I heard it was 1000 years after the movie. The ship you mentioned did resemble a lucrehulk but differed; probably intended to be by the same manufacturer.It seems to be a Star Wars era of warring states where trade alliances and warlords have divided up the galaxy and fight for control. All the unrecognizable species make me think more of Wild Space and the Unknown Regions have been colonized. I think I saw two Twi'leks, that was all that was from old lore other than humans unless the space elves and dwarves were supposed to be something in particular. It would be nice to get a setting guide but I won't hold my breath.
>>98461072Not a fan of the introduced lore, huge fan of the animation. Thankfully it's not canon.
>>98463121Didn't use much scenery in our last game, players were wrapping up one mission and recovering from it. Might have some more photos after this weekend.
>>98467938i could see it getting one in D&D Star wars next year.The inclusion of Star Wars elves and dwarfs in the show makes that very easy
>>98466223Just give Gilroy the same team and have him recreate more old WW2 movies in star wars
>>98466223sam definitely has the passion and knowledge to be trustable in a higher position
Do you think the new WoTC Rpg will reinvigorate this board... even if it's only to bitch about their portrayal of the setting?
>>98471571No, this is a dead site. It's me and maybe two other anons even caring enough to take pictures of games they play.
>try finally playing KOTOR>realize that I genuinely dislike class-based RPG systems
>>98474081You hate peak?
>>98474337Let me put it like this. Especially for CRPGs, class-based systems and character building is disruptive to immersion and gameplay. You go into the game inherently distrusting it, and usually you end up locked out of something unknowingly. And so, once burned, you fall to the madness. It becomes about researching more than playing. And that opens the door to minmaxing or actively trying to avoid minmaxing.And yeah, the entire genre is built on it. You pick a class, progress to an end-point, and you're thus gated from doing anything else based on initial choices. I'm a fan of the idea of "Here's the world, explore." and "You have skills? Exhibit them." and "You want skills? Work for them."
>>98474359I don't see a problem with what you said, but I'm definitely more of a "I guess I'll just try that next playthrough" person. It also helps that I've been playing Kotor 1 and 2 since release.
>>98474359>i want unlimited power fantasykek, what a worthless zoomer faggot
>>98474607I like having versatility rather than being pigeon-holed and stuck where things get boring and my interest wanders.
>>98474668Yeah, you're just admitting you're a worthless zoomer who wants unlimited power fantasy.Get used to disappointment, faggot.
>>98474673>take the stat block the game recommends for a ranged build>can't hit enemies and as such can't proceed through the gameOh, I ask for so much.
>>98476192Probably a skill issue desuMany people have done the same. Maybe your fortune is just poor
>>98476212NTA, but a game that can rape you with RNG is not typically described as good. Fun maybe, like a MMO or MOBA, but not good.
>>98476219(you)
>>98476219Sounds like a (you) problem
>>98452395>he was fleshed out by 80s marvel writersSo, kino.
>>98474393NTA, but I'm not a fan of the Saga system KOTOR 1 and 2 uses, which is basically just DnD mechanics forced to fit into SW. KTOR 1 also has the issue where the optimal way to play is to not level at all until you complete the Taris section, which is pretty long and not designed to be beaten at level 1, because once you get off Taris and gain a Jedi class any levels put into your starting class are effectively wasted.
>>98477618It's not actually an issue though because playing "optimally" to that degree is not necessary to play and enjoy the game. A first time player coming to it unspoiled won't feel cheated because even a character who wrings every last point of XP out of Taris and spends it all before becoming a Jedi still gets an adequate version of the power fantasy.Literally the only people who care are rabid autists who chuck a full blown melty at the thought of not minmaxing every single aspect of their character, a mentality that makes even less sense in the context of a single player CRPG than it does anywhere else it festers.
I miss Andor. I could've watched ten straight seasons of comfy ISB investigations and roundtable meetings, the story wouldn't even have to progress beyond that.I'm actually mad I can't watch those scenes for the first time again.
>>98477618>>98477699It gets better, though. Because jedi are handled via D&D wizard rules. And so not only does the multiclass thing relegate the starting class to, at best, 3 levels to get the second free feat set, but it also means that certain choices are just better. If you want to enjoy the game the most, arguably you don't even do the jedi shit. Because the most versatile play style is just running as Soldier. And the game also uses D&D wizard rules for Jedi. So if you've invested into using armor at all, good luck with that because you can't use (certain) force powers when wearing armor.
>>98477889I loved those scenes, too.I'd like to see a character like Syril Karn who is the victim of some rebel terrorism and joins the Empire believing it the best way to maintain law and order and working their way up the ranks of the ISB, justifying the awful things they see as part of insuring the greater good before growing disillusioned with the reality of the Empire.They never defect, they are killed by their superiors at the ISB while on mission and their death is used as a justification for even more oppression and evil.
>>98477618>because once you get off Taris and gain a Jedi class any levels put into your starting class are effectively wastedI believe this is technically wrong. For example, with Scoundrel, you get the bonus feat "Scoundrels Luck" which provides a permanent +4 to Def at lvl7, and Sneak Attack which gives +4 - 24 dmg, in addition to more Skill points, which favors a 7 Scoundrel/13 Consular build. That also goes the same for Scout, which gets free Implant feats and Uncanny Dodge for a permanent Dex bonus at lvl7. With Soldier, while yes, you would lose out on maximum number of FP and a couple of Force Power by lvl20, I'm pretty sure Soldier still has the highest Feat progression of all of the classes, so it wouldn't be so bad to go level Soldier a bit before Guardian if you want to play a melee build.
KOTOR is, by far, one of the most overrated games of all time. Good lord. I now remember why I never finished it.
>>98479510I'm sorry you have bad taste. Revan is definitely overrated though.
>>98479510(You) had to be there.
>>98479654KOTOR is so flaky with things like chance to hit that the early game is just me throwing grenades at everyone and everything.
>>98479510It is a good game... But everything everyone says is good in it, the sequel does better. Hell, everything that everyone mentions about why they love Revan is always the stuff that the sequel established for him.
>>98477889Correctpilled
Has anyone tried Regiments? I thought about trying to use Future War Commander for the Clone Wars but I just found Regiments while looking for 6 mm models.
>>98480333What a beautiful duang.
>>98479059That'd probably require some kind of Alliance viewpoint, like some kind of slicer/sabotage team that acts as the 'terrorists' the ISB hunts.
>>98483439Yeah, and in order to keep the audience accepting of the ISB, they'd need to be full on Saw Gerrera types who are indifferent to the collateral damage they cause in their crusade against the Empire. Not Saw himself but imitators who are even more erratic.
>>98481213chew
do any of the legion clone boxes come with the dc15a other than the arc trooper box? I wanna use some for mando kitbashes
>>98484248Marksmen have them?
>mando box sold so well they're doing a second run of itwe can't stop winning vode
>>98485314Oh so they do, thanks anonI was just looking on amazon and it seems like they don't have those in stock which is why I could only find the arc troopers, glad there's a slightly more economical option
Redpill me on the Star Wars FFG rpg anons. From what I've read and seen, it leans more on narrative then mechanical gameplay and allows for more cinematic storytelling in your games. I imagine this will require an even more crafty and flexible GM than usual.How does it compare to other SW games like Saga or the WEG one?
>>98486412I liked FFG, but yes, its rules tend to be very soft and fluffy compared to the hard number crunchy-ness of WEG.Saga is if you really liked D&D3.5 and want a clunky Star Wars skin stretched over it.There's also SW5e if you've only ever played 5e and want a clunky Star Wars skin stretched over it.But back to FFG, I do really like its Soak system, so damage never gets too insane. The special dice can be hard to get and knowing what to roll can take some time to get down. But it's not an FFG game if it doesn't have bespoke dice. And since it's a dice pool, you roll the dice and have two different axes of success. There's the basic Success/Failure axis symbols. Having more Successes than failures means you succeed at what you're rolling for. Excess Success symbols can boost what you're doing, like adding additional damage during attacks. Then there's the Advantage/Threat axis, which can boost what you're doing if you get more Advantages than Threats and a certain number will let you crit an attack. Or you can succeed but have something bad happen due to more threats, like your gun jams or the power cell runs out and you have to spend an action next turn fixing that. Nothing dramatically good or bad until you roll the yellow/red dice and get a Triumph (critical success) or Despair (critical failure). There's a chart showing what can happen, but your GM can make something up on the spot to fit the situation.Its rules as written are meant to be theater of the mind, but I do actually recommend doing some homebrewing and working out the distance bands in feet/meters so you can put down a grid map and use minis for combat. I did a short campaign of it with no map for combat and the GM just rolled to see which player the enemies shot at. Which didn't feel very realistic and felt bad when the enemies kept shooting the diplomacy-focused dude in light armor instead of the big droid that was built to take a hit.
>>98487168Also, I highly recommend everyone sit down for a proper session 0. There are a TON of talent trees to choose from and a lot of them have talents that are very niche in their use, so be sure to have a discussion with the GM if, for example, going down this talent tree that makes you good at hacking is actually going to come into play in the campaign.A lot of the books are out of print, but the links in the OP should have them all there for download.
>>98486412I'm having a hard time going back to a d20 system after this. It's got a good rhythm and I'm liking the skill trees as classes
watched a couple videos of the new zero company gameplay and character customizationhas me super excited, still won't preorder, need to hear from day1 players if they manage to fuck it up
Had an interesting thought today. I was listening to a youtube video about how Obi Wan is basically the one Jedi who Sith don't get/think of as a risk and that's what fucks up all their plans.Because his power is his discipline and his humility, he's a guy willing to spend 25 years living in a hole in the wall in the middle of the desert, wasting the best years of his life because someone needs to keep an eye on Luke, and because he doesn't grasp for power, martial prowess or have any great ambitions they don't really see the significance of him, ect, ect.Which got me thinking about pic related and a Jedi's relationship with The Force, since it seems that the whole 'Complete submission' aspect is often viewed as being entirely passive and disinterested in the world, when in reality it seems that yielding to the inevitable cruelties of life without resentment or hatred, but still doing what you can to serve others and help them is what gave Obi-Wan strength and brought down the Sith in the end.Basically what I'm trying to say is I hate to admit it but those crazy Fujoshi who are always posting 'Obi-Wan is a powerbottom' shit on pinterest/tumblr might be tapping into some deeper understanding than I like to give them credit for.
This is a thing now...Written by Kevin Smith...
>>98491277>those designs>”now”One hundred percent this got written and inked within the first year of the buyout and has been sitting as a IN CASE OF BRAND IMPLOSION BREAK GLASS since.
>>98491513I'm not sure Smith was doing comic work a decade ago; it's only something he recently got back to.
>>98414070Wouldn't the virus spread simply by being in contact the Vector?In death troopers the exploration squad didn't find a single zombie but they still all got sick and died.
>>98469573>>98463121>>98465686One of the things stopping me from getting into Star Wars games is that it's gonna be all rebels vs empire and the factions themselves don't have a lot of units. Is this true?
>>98491848NoLegion has CIS and republic as well, and smaller factions for shadow collective, and now one for purely mandaloriansand as far as model ranges CIS for example has geonosians and multiple variants of b2s, magnaguard, aquadroids, crab droids, BXs, and the standard b1s and droidekas, multiple vehicles and leaders including customizable tactical droids, pretty much the only factions with smaller model ranges are shadow collective and mandos
>>98490920>tldr garbage>tumblr fagslopPowerful bumpniggery
>>98491620He did the batman/green hornet crossover in 14
>>98469573Ended up being all downtime and drama as they recovered and attempted to make contact with a planetary resistance force. Relations were strained as they left, so I'll have to conspire for them to work together again.
>>98491962Need to bring back dudposting
Star Wars RPG-heads, I need some help. I'm a solo RPG player and I'm looking for tables and oracles that are well suited to Star Wars. Anyone able to help? Many thanks. Goodnight.
>pushing through KOTOR>Sith Governor fight>win via just having T3-M4 spam flamethrowerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x9jQ9YJcuY
>>98491277How embarassing. Crossover "art" is inherently bad, even more so when you combine two of the sloppiest franchises ever
>>98491277Marvel superhero universe is the sloppiest of comic slop.
>>98491277I hate capeshit so much it's unreal, and I feel I need to articulate the true extent of my distaste. >nothing ever happensMost capeshit is eternally stagnant, everything reverting to the same, somewhat idealized version of modern reality at the end of each story. Nobody truly dies, as that could decrease merchandising value. >status quo propagandaThe only people who want to change anything are the villains. The heroes are entirely the tools of the status quo, always fighting to prevent anything from changing. Even if institutions are portrayed as bad, those that want to change them are always worse. In this framing, neoliberalism is the best system possible, and the heroes are its champions. The heroes are entirely reactionary, with no of their own.>lack of a coherent magic systemWhen everyone has their own unique thing, there really is no rhyme or reason to the wider world. This also often goes with a complete lack of any regard to creating a believable setting with concrete rules and believable technology. (Why is someone who looks exactly like a human able to just fly through space? Why do so many "aliens" look exactly like humans?)>Marvel millenial writingCapeshit stories are the originators of this insufferable, irony poisoned writing style. Stories that are afraid of sincerity cannot have genuine stakes.>Great man theory propagandaCapeshit genre seems entirely subservient to it, which I feel pushes a bad message. Only the "specials" can do anything, while the normal people only exist to be victimized or rescued (conveniently while having all of their property wrecked).>Multiverse slopAlmost all capeshit seems to follow the multiverse convention nowadays. Once again, multiverses devalue the established world. If there is an infinite amount of worlds and versions of you, nothing ever matters. Add to that that most capeshit is too cowardly to fully commit to the concept, adding an "original timeline" that "actually matters".
>>98494889I suppose if I had to sum it up, capeshit is almost always entirely meaningless. It exists so good little consoomers can basedface over two toys smashing into each other, while being propagandized that nothing needs to change, that good little sheep don't need to do anything, just wait for the hero to save you.It really says it all that the moat beloved superhero is a billionaire whose entire philosophy is preventing him from changing anything.
>>98494889Great man theory is 100% correct, however.
>>98495404>great man theory exists >but only enough to show that (you) will never be one
>>98479059>>98477889I would love to watch a show about that, feel like there plenty of room to explore all sorts of stories within the ISB, could follow an agent or a small team as they must navigate themselves around the top dogs within the ISB and the Empire, while dealing with rebel threats, could be as >>98483863 said it would need to be someone who is deranged who willing to carry out mass genocides to kill a single imperial commander like lobbing a meteorite into a planet's capital because they just want to make sure hes dead and justifys it by declaring it was a empire loving planet so they were all enemies to the rebellionAnd other plots ranging from dealing with dick-waving contests between other imperial departments to moffs at each other's throats to maybe something silly as a Chiss conspiracy plot because someone saw a imagine Palpatine with Thrawn and declares he is in bed with aliens and the Empire must know as he floods the holonet with this with this rubbish. Again, I feel like there is a lot of room to go into all sorts of stories and plots with these groups without affecting the main plot of SW that much
>>98479059>Procedural investigation show in the shadow of the empire and its corruption.Sounds fun
>>98496281I fucking hate pictures like that, makes the Empire look like the most generic sci fi military faction possibleNot every Imperial has to have some evil scar or look, why the fuck do people not make Imperial officials look like traditional British military officers like they do in the OT instead of their Warhammer 40k shitty fanfic replacement characters
>next Warframe update is absolute Star Wars thematically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygOo9VediOg
>can make your hawks a cute togruta girlzero company goty confirmed
Does anyone know if Hyperspace D6 is better than the West End RPG? I know it's a supposedly streamlined and "improved" hack, but I've never played it. Any info would be appreciated.
>>98497632If you are going to use SWd6, use SWd6 REUP. It's a fanversion that modernizes it and makes it more intuitive.https://d6db.com/library/star-wars-rpg-revised-expanded-updated
>>98497798Ohh neat, thank you anon
>>98494889>Even if institutions are portrayed as bad, those that want to change them are always worse. In this framing, neoliberalism is the best system possible, and the heroes are its champions. The heroes are entirely reactionary, with no of their own.That's truth in fiction, you seething commie.
>>98497632If you want something with the crunch level between 2E REUP and Hyperspace D6, try 1e REUP, also known as SW Classic adventures, it uses some of the fixes from 2e, incorporating them into 1e. Check PICREL for a comparison.scribd.com/document/319977887/Star-Wars-Classic-Adventuresd6db.com/library/classic-adventures
>>98497632I had never tried Hyperspace D6 out of being very skeptic about their use of skills as only a +bonus, it breaks lots of previous compatibility among all D6 system stats and change the maths behaviour of the system. Even more extreme versions of the system like Micropend6 don't break this compatibility at the core level, Mini Six don't break this either. I guess the author did that to avoid having huge dice pools, but breaks compatibility with content across all the D6 system ecosystem, and I don't mind huge dice pools. Also he mentions Star Wars D6 Rules Essentials as an inspiration, you can check that one too for a very tacit (houseruled/homebrewed) version of the SW D6 rules.I guess I should not be so prejudiced about hyperspace d6, but the only way to know is to have the system widely playtested, I guess I could join their discord, I've heard the big 3.0 version is going to come out sooner or later.
