>>OverviewWe are going to construct some mechs. This is a stand alone thread for mech construction challenges. Each scenario given will have 4 days to submit an entry. You may submit more than once (like we could tell anyhow) but each must be on its own post.The bids will then be compiled and voted on by Anons in the thread to determine who gets the contract. Voters should consider the mech's cost, effectiveness in the desired role, and the fluffiness of the sales pitch and description.>>RulesYear, tech base, and tech level to be used for the mech will be specified in the scenario, and should be followed.Positive quirks must equal or be exceeded by negative quirks, with no more than 6 quirks total.>>FormatingMech pitches should be formatted as follows:Chassis ModelRoleWeightQuirksBattle Value at a 4/5 pilotDry Cost in C-BillsSales pitch and In setting fluff.>> Voting categories We will have a few. Often they will be1: Favorite design2: Most innovative design 3: Best Narrative 4: Meth babyWe may include a 5th “best fits the requirements” for some challenges.A top 5 of the most votes will also be listed >>Previous thread >>98263505>> The first scenario will be posted after the OP with a deadline date and time.
>>Challenge fourThe year is 2848 and the Clans have conquered the Star League in exile and claimed the home worlds. Eighteen of the clans remain, each expanding and coming into its own in the 16 years since the Ilkhan’ death. New technology has arisen, more advanced than even the height of the star league. Your clan looks at its outdated machines and sees a need to upgrade.>>Requirements:Make a clan IIC version of a mech produced before the civil war in 2766. It can be made by any of the 18 clans. It will be made using standard rules for the era.Do not use existing IIC mechs. The following mechs are off limitClint IICCommando IICWolverine IIC Griffin IIC, Guillotine IICHighlander IICHunchback IIC, Jenner IICLocust IIC, Marauder IIC, Orion IICPhoenix Hawk IIC, Rifleman IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC, Stinger IICThunderbolt IICUrbanMech IICWarhammer IIC, Wyvern IICOther than that, the requirements are open. Size, BV, cost, role are all open. Just pick a classic mech to bring to Clan glory!Narrative fluff is appreciated and will be counted as a vote.
>>98347171Wait, are we supposed to set the model year to 2848 or 2766? The first part is talking like we're in the Golden Century and we're only 6 years from the Omnimech being fully invented and when different Clans are starting to invent and hold onto specific instances of Clantech, but the latter implies we're designing before the reclamation of the Pentagon Worlds.
>>98347546We're in 2848 with most of the fun stuff that gets brought to the Inner Sphere in 200 years besides Omnis, building an upgrade of a Mech we brought with us on the Exodus.
>>98347171Wasp IICScout25tEasy to Maintain, Improved Communications, Cramped Cockpit, Non-Standard PartsBV 735441, 750 KE (2, 208, 750 C-Bills)Re: Wasp Production Candidate SA041After examining the prototype Valkyrie we obtained from the Sea Foxes, we have successfully adopted its capabilities into our updated Wasp, just as we have with those of the Stinger. The communications suite that design features has been refined and integrated into the Wasp with only a minor loss in cockpit size, though the few facilities that have been allocated to its manufacture will limit replacements. We anticipate this being a minor issue during reconnaissance so long as contact is minimized. As our MechWarriors have limited their demands to an additional launcher being mounted instead of the mandated TAG designator - as well as the typical insistence on double heat sinks - no further modifications are likely to be ordered barring the promotion of a new Logistics Adjutant. As such, we will be finalizing this configuration and begin production of the demonstration units as soon as possible.I offer my rede that the demonstration will be ready for Khan Truscott's arrival next month, and he will be assured of the new Wasp's suitability against Clan Mongoose.Alexis Ninov
>>98347171Hey, question: is it explicitly only models with IIC refits that are disqualified or are all IS 'mechs that got refitted, re-made and/or re-hashed by the Clans at some point off limits even if they're not explicitly IICs? For example, I was going to do a Mercury IIC because it wasn't on your list but Sarna says that Clan Wolverine made a Mercury II and that Clan Coyote used both the Mercury and Mercury II as the basis for the Coyotl. Same question for 'mechs like the Galahad and Crab as they were the base designs for the Glass Spider and Night Chanter respectively and the Wasp also has a Wasp C from the Dark Ages.
>>98347171What about designs that are IIC of certain mechs in all but name? Great Wyrm for the Dragon and Supernova for the King Crab?
>>98347171Crab IICSkirmisher60 TonsQuirks: Easy to Maintain315413,312,000 "C-Bills"The Crab battlemech was an exceptional design that even some Keshik forces are known to make use of the CRB-27sl now, but we have been significantly held back from how few were able to be produced before the great Alexander Kerensky brought down the despicable usurper.With much of its use limited primarily by a lack of production rather than quality issues, we have revisted this design and saw a number of things that could be improved even upon the CRB-27sl variant owing to developments in technology we have experienced.A slight increase in size to Heavy Battlemech standards and an upgrade to an Endo-Steel structure has allowed for an additional 1.5 tons of armor for a total of 10.5 to reach the maximum that this tonnage can support for this Ferro-Fibrous type, and an increase from 14 to 18 Double Heat Sinks.This increased heat dissipation has allowed for us to upgrade the Large Pulse Lasers to be Extended Range Particle Projector Cannons for enhanced range and damage, the upgrade of a standard Medium Laser to an Extended Range Medium Laser, and the installation of a Small Pulse Laser for infantry management and further damage to be inflicted at the range of the older Medium Laser. The Medium Pulse Laser has been retained but at modern enhanced specifications. None of this has come at the cost of mobility, and that has even been enhanced owing to the implementation of a Myomer Accelerator Signal Circuitry system.While this comes with some additional costs of manufacture, this has produced a 'Mech that we project can outfight combatants significantly greater in tonnage than itself and it shall be an excellent addition to the touman of Clan Burrock as a result.
>>98347163Wait a second when did the Thug get breasts?
>>98348033They're based on those weird, conical rocket pods Kunio Okawara was obsessed with back in the 80s.
>>98348117Specifically, while the Thug isn't directly based on anything from Dougram, its missile launchers are pretty obviously lifted from the Bushman's "cheeks".
>>98347171i dont know shit about clans so bear with me>Chassis Model Bansh-IIC>Rolesniper>Weight90 tonnes>Quirksrugged (1)>Battle Value at a 4/5 pilot2763>Dry Cost in C-Bills11,187,960>Sales pitch and In setting fluffWhat better way to win honor than to prove clan superiority by salvaging one of the sphere's greatest failures? what better way to show pride than making a really fast assault mech?The bansh-IIC began in 2848 as a simple refit to clantech components, but leaked data for prototype AMS and ECM suites led to political meddling, a dramatic design pivot and budget overrun. stripping the weapons from the arms allowed for a 5T saving in structural components, acceptable as the whole thing was being replaced with endosteel regardless. This permitted a smaller engine to produce the same speed, even with the original (now ferrofibrous) 15t of armour. finally, three C-ER PPCs were mounted in each torso.This machine would be just as affordable, mobile, long ranged and defensive as its predecessor, but rather than trading blows with 'mechs half it's size, it's electric scream would freeze the hearts of any foolish enough to believe a garrison 'mech would be second rate
>>98348117To be fair, they're pretty cool looking.
Just a quick update on suggestions from previous threadSomething with the clans3051C3 company/command mechUltralights, quadvess and LamsIIC golden age mech - current one being doneBetter Raven 3L contestAge of war heavy or assaultIS OmniIlkhan era clan designPolice mech - was suggestion for Republic eraLAMs, Quadvees, and Protomechs Nebula CaliforniaI'd personally like to suggest a militia mech challenge though wouldn't want to do it till a few of these out the way. Know the Urbanmech challenge kind of covered this but would like to see a bit more freedom here. Maybe a 2mill dry cost budget?
>>98348117>>98348127
>>98348331Militiamech might be best to be run like this IIC challenge where you need to take an existing Industrialmech, and build a new weaponized variant. Maybe with some restriction where the Crit Slots for before and after need to be within a certain margin, or your design has a max cost of 25-50% higher than the base model?
>>98348423And maybe you need to be able to shove them out the back of a Planetlifter for rapid pllanetary defense deployment
>>98348117Whatever the intention it makes it look like the Thug has a nice firm pair of jugs.
I really like Wiges. Wish we had more.
>>98347546The tech for your new design is 2848. However the design it's based off must be no newer than2766. That's the stuff they took with them.>>98347681>>98347685Gonna say only actual IICs we have stats for are off limit. There were 18 clans, maybe someone else was working on their own Crab IIC before omnis.
>>98347171Chassis: Charger IICRole: ScoutWeight: 45 tonsQuirks: Easy to Maintain Barrel Fists (LA) Bad ReputationBV: 1,073Dry Cost: 4,049,633 C-billsThe idea why any Clan would believe a mech such as the long derided Charger could have any role in a modern touman would remain a mystery if it were not for the experiences of Clan Hell's Horses during Operation Klondike. During the conquest of the Purgatory Peninsula Clan Hell's Horses found that in their combined arms approach to warfare their mechs would be prioritised by opposing forces while their infantry and vehicles were often ignored. This gave both the Clans scientists and warriors an idea, a fast response mech designed to draw fire from the enemy yet be also fast enough to make targeting it an issue. Taking the design schematics of the Charger and shaving off 35 tons of weight, the Hell's Horses were able to upgrade the speed significantly while retaining the protection levels and firepower of the original. Finally as an added bonus no advanced weight saving materials are used this design nor are double heatsinks making the final Charger IIC extraordinarily easy to repair.Unfortunately Clan Hell's Horses forgot to account for one thing, this design would be fighting fellow Clans not the rag tag forces of the long defeated Pentagon Powers. In several trials several warriors refused to sully their honor by engaging one in combat, disgusted at the perceived unworthy foe and asking they pick another mech instead. The final nail on the coffin for the design was when a Jade Falcon warrior finally did accept a batchall but choose to engage it with a vintage Hussar. Despite the age of the Hussar it was able to destroy the Charger IIC without even suffering a scratch as its superior speed and range of its old Newhart laser meant it could always keep its foe from ever reaching weapons range. As an added insult the Falcon did not claim any isorla from the battle and the design was left to be quietly forgotten.
>>98349252>IIC>Significantly heavier or lighter than originalAbsolute kinography, Phoenix Hawk IIC is best IIC for this reason. Personally I would have kepted the same speed, maxed armor and covered it with medium and large pulse lasers. Still like the fact that you'd completely change the weight class.
>>98347171Catapult IICMissile Boat40 tonsQuirks: No arms, Easy to Maintainbv: 1687C-bills: 3,545,267>Fluff/sales pitch:Created by Clan Star Adder Scientists who recognized the usefulness of a fire support battlemech. The overall design was lightened to 40 tons without a loss in effectiveness, the design uses endo steel but not ferro-fibrous to keep costs down. It has 4 jump jets to allow for moving through rough terrain while 11 double heatsinks keep it cool. Two of the medium lasers were dropped and the remaining two were replaced with ER version with the Clan LRM's lack of minimum range compensating for the loss of two medium lasers though the freed up weight allowed for 2 more tons of LRM ammo. Khan Truscott has greenlighted further field testing.-Star Colonel Frederick Irons of Clan Star Adder
>>98347171Chassis: Excalibur IICRole: SniperWeight: 70 tonsQuirks: Improved Targeting (Long), Exposed Actuators, Bad Reputation, Vestigial Hands (Right)BV: 2,178Dry Cost: 16,340,287 C-billsIIC 2Role: SniperBV: 2,470Dry Cost: 16,658,187 C-billsOn the surface the Excalibur IIC could be mistaken as a simple upgrade of the existing Excalibur, indeed it strikes a visual similarity and the weapon systems are identical to the original. This would however be false as most of the changes come from internal adjustments over external leaving little parts that can be shared. Designed by Clan Mongoose to complement their raiding forces, the Excalibur IIC has a rather generous ammunition supply allowing it to fight for extended periods of time. The lighter weight of Clan weapons allowed the designers to max out the armor of the chassis although the placement has left certain actuators exposed which would have became a problem if this design lived to face Elementals. Lastly the tracking computer has seen refinement which gives it an added edge in ranged combat. The end result was a formidable design infamous among Mongoose rivals who already found their tactics dezgra who did not look forward to facing it as an opponent.When Clan Wolf dared ask the question why the they had not followed their example with their refurbished Excaliburs and make them very cool running the Mongoose response was to call them as quoted by council logs, "a bunch of dezgra pussies!" This did however seem to touch a nerve and a second version with double heatsinks soon appeared with a far more deadly energy focused loadout. Despite being a powerful design and giving the Mongooses several victories, neither variant survived their absorption by the Smoke Jaguars as that Clan choose to scrap them all rather than retain them out of what they called honor, others called hubris.
>>98349535I was thinking of including a Charger IIC 2 that was legit using recycled Phoenix Hawk engines because of the Phoenix Hawk IIC existing and as a way to save the design but I thought against it. Thought it would be more entertaining to make something on the surface would actually appear to be a bright idea and fix the concept of the Charger 1A1 but then utterly fail for a complete new set of reasons that designers did not take into account so they gave up completely.
>>98347171Torn between these four options Assassin IIC, Pillager IIC, Exterminator IIC, Sentinel IIC. Would have included Charger IIC but I think the most fun take might have been done.
>>98347171Chassis: Stalker IICRole: JuggernautWeight: 80 tonsQuirks: Combat Computer, No/Minimal ArmsBV: 2,476Dry Cost: 8,767,800 C-billsWhen Khan Mitchell Loris of Clan Mongoose was first asked to explain his hatred for the snake Clans in front of the Grand Council he responded by unzipping his pants and threatening to kill everyone in the room then himself while dangling his penis in a clockwise direction. The confused admiration he received quietly closed the matter. Later Mongoose Khans would not inherit his political abilities and when Mongoose warriors slaughter Star Adder colonists on Marshall, sowing the seeds of their eventual downfall, it was at the cockpits of the Stalker IIC.Essentially a heavily refurbished Stalker in all but name, thanks to the weight savings of Clan weaponry the Stalker IIC is able to exceed the armor protection and cooling capacity of the original while shaving 5 tons of weight. Armed with a formidable weapons array linked to a combat computer that helps manage the pilots load allowing them to become experts at gunning down civilian castes. Very few opponents can survive a direct engagement with this mech without significant damage.
>>98349903Don't think there should be anything stopping anons submitting their own competing takes. Only issue I see is when it comes to votes how to easily determine which is which.
>>98349953OP here. My suggestion is if another person as best you to your mech choice ass a A after the IIC, such as Assassin IIC-A or Assassin IIC-B if more than one person has one.
>>98350024Lol, it should be "bet you to" and 'Add an A there"
>>98350024>>98349953Fair enough, I just respect what he did to the Charger, it takes balls to completely overhaul a mech down to halving the chassis weight and still making it a steaming pile of dogshit mechanically.
>>98347171Meth Baby Time!Rampage IICRole: Lunatic85 tonsQuirks: Bad Reputation, Improved Targeting (long)BV: 3.29423.472.513 C-Bills wetKhan Phillip Drummond,as per to your instructions, the scientist and technician castes have collaborated on overhauling many venerable Star League chassis in service with Clan Nova Cat.Following our shared vision, Master Technician Legit and myself, Senior Scientist Totally, have dared to reach beyond the legacy of the Great Father. This report is both our recommendation, and our testimony to our shame and obsession.Taking inspiration from your own history, Khan, we aspire to rip the Rampage from cursed Amaris' heritage, like you yourself denied him your service. May in time all his tools be reforged to serve the Great Father's design.Based on a captured RMP-4G built in 2750, and enhanced by analysis of the 2767 model 5G, our suggested Rampage IIC invests heavily into speed, protection, and overwhelming yet precise firepower.A massive 340 Extralight Engine of improved design, enhanced by a MASC-system, allows the warrior to maintain their chosen distance. The maximally efficient amount of standard plate protects the Endo Steel frame of this 85 ton behemoth.Accurate twin ERPPCs split between the heart of the 'mech and the right arm provide long-range firepower on par with the venerable Awesome, while 16 double heat sinks keep the Rampage IIC cooler. Should an opponent decide to close the range, five modern Medium Pulse Lasers and two precise Streak SRM6 launchers you yourself refined with one ton of reloads each will make short work of their mangled machines. And should infantry participate in the trial, two Small Pulse Lasers make for an efficient and above all precise solution, unlike the Flamer favored by the rotten Rim Worlds Republic. An ECM, Active Probe, and Searchlight will allow the warrior the greatest discretion and clarity in their encounters.The shame is ours. Judgement is yours.Seyla.
>>98347171Chassis: Hornet IICRole: ScoutWeight: 20 tonsQuirks: Narrow/Low Profile, No/Minimal Arms, Cramped Cockpit, Hard to pilotBV: 428Dry Cost: 6,475,200 C-billsCreated in response to accusations that Clan Burrock appeared to be developing ties with the growing Dark Caste during the Golden Century, the Burrock Khan of the era rebutted that they were in fact studying a way to expose the undesirables to the benefit for all Clans and quickly showed a crudely drawn diagrams based off what appeared of what many considered a rather lackluster design, the Hornet.Designed to act as a spotting unit the Hornet IIC had a troubled development. Unarmed but not meant to engage in combat it was meant to locate encampments and deploy a beacon that would alert nearby forces before they would have a chance to escape. The first issue was when running at the full speed of 324kph aiming the NARC launcher became an impossible task for the pilot due to issues with the launcher becoming lose, however this was resolved by a rather unorthodox solution. Due to the rushed development one prototype had its NARC fitted facing rear and it was unnoticed till the test pilot reported that the NARC was not only firing backwards but firing steady. All future prototypes would take advantage of this accidental discovery. The second and unresolved issue was due to the large engine cockpit space was sparse and left controls hard to reach.The end result was a design which on paper seemed an ideal spotting unit for Clan forces hunting down the ever illusive bandits but in practice even with the NARC launcher issues resolved pilots would fail to tag their targets as they would be concentrating heavily on trying to retain control of the machine resulting in several instances of some confused bandits seeing a two legged blur zip through their camp and disappear into the distance to a faint sound of screaming. Nobody though at least could accuse the Burrocks of not making an attempt however.
>>98350233Thank you. I was thinking how could I make something that any other force outside the Clans could actually make use of but would fail 100% because its the Clans.
>>98347171Chassis: Pillager IICRole: JuggernautWeight: 100 tonsQuirks: Battle FistsBV: 3291Cost: 22,978,000 C-billsCreator: Clan Star AdderLore:Created during the Golden Century the Pillager IIC was an attempt to create a breakthrough mech and a direct challenge to the Stone Rhino, sitting in the same weight class and with the same mobility but with an overall heavier and longer-ranged armament. Clan Star Adder deployed them to lethal effect against other clans, its size, protection, range, and lethality drawing fire away from more mobile elements of the clan's touman.While the Pillager IIC would rapidly disseminate through the clans, its frequent deployments resulting in it ending up captured as isorla it would decline in relevance with the development of omnimechs and particularly larger assault omnimechs developed in the 31st century. The mechs would generally be relegated to solahma and provisional units left to rot as they were replaced by easier to maintain and cheaper mechs, the 100 ton beast being redundant for hunting pirates and small skirmishes, often being bid away first.However, the Pillager IIC would see a revival during the Wars of Reaving. The desperate conflict with other clans and The Society forced countless Pillager IICs back into frontline combat, and regardless of the age of the mech two gauss rifle rounds and two PPC blasts are devastating. With the absorbtion of Clan Burrock many of the old and even newly built Pillager IICs were sent to clusters manned by former Burrock Warriors.Capabilites:Maxed armor, 3/5/3 movement, two gauss rifles with tons of ammo, two clan ER PPCs, and heat neutral. Hit you in the face with a sledgehammer before you can react.
>>98347163For future challenge ideas, superheavies could be fun, or just literally have an anon commission something specific "I want a heavy striker mech that will be hard to put down for good and can stay in the fight for a long time without resupply during campaigns, at least 5/8/0 or 4/6/4 movement."
Dragoon IICSniper60 tonsQuirks: Easy to Maintain, Modular Weapon (ER PPC, LB-X AC/5), Bad Reputation, Non-Standard Parts, Obsolete (2848)BV: 21992, 410, 560 KE (12, 052, 800 C-Bills)It seems our prudence in keeping discussion of Kain to physical documents has been justified. The Sea Foxes have approached us regarding our experiments with the Mercury, without seeming to realize the true nature of our "experimental Rifleman." As they have volunteered their assistance in further developing the universal mount concept and there is nothing more to learn from this abomination, all traces of the project are to be repurposed or destroyed immediately. Fortunately, we had indeed modified a Rifleman to confirm our findings, and have adjusted its exterior to match Kain's should there have been any lapses in security. This dezgra experiment shall be reduced to slag and forgotten without any learning of the truth behind it.If nothing else, we have learned much from Kain. Most of it in how to incorrectly implement this technology. The entire gunpod must be detached and replaced with another, then the gyro and tarcomp set to the appropriate preset and recalibrated. This swift reconfiguration would be enough to justify further development if not for the downsides. Because we have been unable to implement a universal ammunition feed, the magazine must be included with the arm module instead of safely within the torso. The arms themselves can only have a variance of a few tons between themselves, otherwise the systems are unable to compensate. Mounting an assembly with a lower arm and hand was successful, until the recoil from the Autocannon ripped it from the connection after only four slugs. Most of all, these pods have little tolerance for modification. Should compatible weapons become scarce during a campaign, Kain would be reduced to its secondary laser cluster. Each of these flaws will need to be addressed in our next iteration.
>>98350722Small modification, apparently I used a normal XL engine. No practical difference, but should have an extra empty crit slot in each side torso with 3374 BV.
Chassis: Flea IICRole: Skirmisher[uncertain]Weight: 20 tonsQuirks:Narrow/Low Profile, No Ejection SystemBV: 768Dry Cost: 2,821,440 C-bills/[HISTORICAL CONVERSION DATA NOT AVAILABLE]Creator: Clan Jade FalconClan Name: KestrelCreated by Clan Jade Falcon as an experimental refit of the venerable FLE-4, the Flea IIC has come to represent an insight into the ethos of Jade Falcon during the early Golden Century [ca. 2830-2930]. A blistering top speed of 194kph (with MASC enabled) and a narrow profile ensured that the pilots of the Flea IIC would be among the first to close on an enemy at close range while also being extremely difficult for enemy 'mechs to out-maneuver or target, which has been considered by analysts to represent a shrewd psychological warfare tactic - as engaging in melee combat or moving out of range of an opponent's weapons is considered to be a dishonorable act [dezgra] among the Clans, it has been proposed that the true role of the Flea IIC was to bait an opponent into those acts. Such conduct on the part of their opponent would give Clan Jade Falcon social leverage after the combat no matter the ultimate outcome while losing in the absence of dishonorable acts still reflected positively on the bravery of the Jade Falcon warrior who chose to pilot such a 'mech and a victory against against anything outweighing and underestimating the Flea IIC would bring extra honor to the Clan and the mechwarrior. Mounting a scant 3.5 tons of ferro-fibrous armor and a 180 XL engine the Flea IIC is unusually vulnerable for a Clan battlemech even with its endo-steel frame, but the six torso-mounted small pulse lasers cooled by ten double heat sinks give it a respectable and indefinite punch in close engagements. The small production numbers and disproportionate usage (anecdotal) of these 'mechs by Jade Falcon sohlama and disgraced pilots for ritual combat combined with the lack of an ejection system seemingly lends credence to the theories mentioned above.
>>98347171Chassis: Goliath IICRole: Missile BoatWeight: 80tQuirks:+Multi-Track-Exposed ActuatorsBV2: 2743Cost: 11,172,000 c-billsCreator: Goliath Scorpion"I met a seeker from an antique landwho said: four vast and burden'd legs of steelstand in the desert. Near them, on the sandHalf sunk in shattered glazing lies, vids showna blistered lip, and sneer of cold of commandTell that its warrior well those passions readWhich yet survive, stamped on these lifeless thingsThe hand that mocked them and the heart that fedAnd on the combat log these words appear'I am Goliath, mech of mechs:Look upon my work ye surat and despair!'Nothing beside remains. Round the decayOf that colossal wreck, boundless and bareThe lone and level sands stretch far away."-A poetic account of the Khan's vision that led to the Goliath Scorpions building this mech as a totem of their namesake
>>98350722>>98350964Kinda reminds me of a IIC'd Devastator
>>98347171Charger IIC80 TonsQuirks: Barrel Fists (LA), Improved Communications, Bad Reputation (Clan)BV2: 2608C-Bills: 23,934,320From Clan Wolf comes a monstrosity in experimental design, built on the back of the hubris of the inner sphere as a show of the superiority of the technology of the Star League in exile.Conceived as an experiment on improving a classically maligned mech through modern technology, the Charger IIC was built to be as close to the original design as possible, while using new technology to replace its original parts. Equipped with a TAG, Active Probe and ECM suite, the mech is meant to properly fulfil the Charger's original concept as a 'Heavy Scout". Armed with 5 Medium Pulse Lasers as its primary armament, backed up by a triplet of LRM 5's (which are based on common 'upgrade' packages seen on Chargers back in the inner sphere), the mech still maintains the original speed of the Charger, while improving them with 5 jump jets. An AMS system is also included.Conceived and presented as nothing more than a show of the technological superiority of Clans, and as something of an unabashed joke by Clan Wolf, detractors of the clan still took the chance to claim that the Charger IIC was a mark of how close Clan Wolf was to the inner sphere, and that the mechs position as a joke as nothing more than an attempt to mask this. Trials of Grievance ensued.The mech, for what its worth, was seen as decent at its intended role. The maintaining of the originals Barrel Fist was seen as something of an anachronism by pilots for a proper clan design, no matter that the original Charger had it, while tech's working on the mech had some words to say about the chassis itself, as the mech still used IS grade Endosteel and Double Heat Sinks in its engine - Clan Wolf wasn't going to waste modern materials on a joke!I Love AMS! I Love AMS! I Love AMS!
>>98351787>fucked up the rhyme scheme award
>>98347171Awesome IICSniper80 TonsNo Quirks1776 BV8,532,570 C-BillsThe Scientist Caste of Clan Blood Spirit almost balked at the directive to improve the venerable Awesome. A truly timeless design, the AWS-8Q was perhaps the most ruthlessly optimized BattleMech not only of its era, but FOR its era. A simple upgrade to modern materials would leave it vastly under-tonnage with little armor to add. The addition of a fourth PPC and heat sinks would over-strain the chassis, and use of Endo Steel to compensate would consume too much volume for the heat sinks to fit. True to the Way of the Clans, the solution was simple and obvious in hindsight: make it faster.That the Awesome IIC presented to Khan Boques so closely resembled the AWS-8Q is testament to the brilliance of its original designers. A Clan-grade chassis, a minor revision in its CT armor balance, and modern weapons supported by Double Heat Sinks. The most dramatic changes only appeared in motion, where its upgraded engine provided additional maneuverability while retaining its modest evasive potential, and the Awesome's iconic 3-3-2 firing bracket became a devastating 3-3-3-3-2 pattern, further enhanced by the new ERPPC design.While a phenomenal display of early Golden Century engineering, the Awesome IIC would not be long for fame, as the rise of the OmniMech brought the Executioner and Kingfisher, both capable of replicating the AWS-8Q package, and much more besides. With no clans having successfully trialed for the production rights, the Awesome IIC soon became relegated to second-line Blood Spirit units, where its legendary durability left whatever remained of it after a battle unfit to be returned to service even if claimed as isorla. With production halted, the Awesome IIC was effectively extinct by the time of REVIVAL, and only three models are recorded as having given battle during the Annihilation of Clan Blood Spirit during the Reaving, where they were comprehensively destroyed.
>>98348442>Whatever the intention it makes it look like the Thug has a nice firm pair of jugs.OPPAI MISSILE!!!
>>98352214Stats correction, since I must have tweaked something late in development.>2496 BV>8,791,050 C-Bills
>>98348508A combat vehicle challenge could be interesting but I'd want to see what happens with core rules before I'd want to do one myself.
>>98352901Amphibious mech for an island/swamp world?
>>98353594If treads on mechs weren't useless could be fun otherwise think it would be kind of limited on what would be useful here.
>>98354114UMUs and an environment so hot it gives heat penalties could make it interesting.
I've got a good one. Dedicated Solaris mech. Open enough to be almost anything, any tech, and can allow for some fun or hilarious designs.
>>98354251Yeah but uwus designs are very one note. Pretty much using all energy and torps. Omnis really cover this anyway?>>98355002I feel with the way some anons have been designing mechs this wouldn't make a spot of difference?
>>98355027A full spread of gimmicky crackheads could be fun.
>>98355027Eh, potentially, could have weight classes and include pilots for extra stuff. I personally wouldn't mind breaking out Max Knight my 4/2 Solaris pilot.
>>98355027I was thinking more like the A-6 in Muv Luv, something that is supposed to emerge from the water to secure the beachhead for follow-on landing waves, not act like a mech shaped submarine.
When does the IIC challenge actually end?
>>98347171Kyudo IICMissile Boat45 tonsEasy to Pilot, Exposed ActuatorsBV 1,7314,426,270 C-billsKyudo IIC 2 (2850+)SniperBV 1,9464,775,720 C-billsDeveloped originally by Clan Goliath Scorpion, the Kyudo IIC was created due to a pressing need for a new training mech that better fit the doctrine of Clan warriors which was also equipped with modern weaponry. Finding the old Terran Hegemony Kyudo design ideal and requiring very little in terms of modifications, Goliath Scorpion scientists went to work and found that thanks to the weight savings Clan weapons offered they were able to produce it without the need for endo-steel or ferro-fibrous armor allowing them to build numbers of them rather easily. They were also able to enhance the firepower by exchanging the laser for a PPC. The additional benefit of not having to use bulky weight saving materials is that they were able to expand the room inside the cockpit allowing for what many would call a rumble seat, giving plenty of room for an instructor to provide assistance in what was already considered an easy to pilot design.The Kyudo IIC would eventually fade into obscurity with the advent of the omnimech and battle armor, the latter posing a significant threat due to the exposed actuators and having an armament not ideally suited to fighting them thus new trainer designs took its place. Despite this eventual obsolescence the Kyudo IIC had a brief stint of infamy as through some unscrupulous means Clan Mongoose were able to produce a significant batch of upgraded versions of their own that no Clan could figure out just how it was performing such accurate shots with its PPC until one was salvaged from the field and it was discovered to be one of the first designs ever to be fitted with what would go on to be called the targeting computer. Very few of this model remains as many Clans were understandably eager to get their hands on this variant for study.
>>98355103The idea of including pilots could be fun, especially with people focusing more on lore and background.
I was gonna do Flashman IIC but after poking around there is nothing interesting to do with it, that shit just swaps over and gets even better. Even if you keep it pretty budget and don't even go endo/ferro it's fucking ridiculously good, can even add jump jets.There's literally no reason to do anything but a straight up gear swap unless you're using weight savings to jam in more heat sinks and go all pulse for an utter monster, or swap in PPCs for the Large Lasers, with added heat sinks.Literally too optimal to be worth bothering with.
>>98357182Flashman is a perfect being, much like the Hunchback and Awesome.
>>98357182It's a shame it's fluffed as such C* mechs, because I honestly like the Flashman and Black Knight more than a lot of Introtech heavies, and not just because they're optimized energy zombies.
>>98357240>>98357192I started thinking a bit more and honestly the best thing I could do with the Flashman IIC is a fucking what the hell type Dark Age concept, which doesn't work for this challenge, but as a derivation of a simple clan optimisation.Like a Clan optimisation pass it's easy to say why they didn't go with: doesn't fit their mode of warfare, it's built for sustained combat, cavalry mech operations, that's far too fucking sensible. That's Clan Wolverine or Star Adder shit. So it'd be churned out and forgotten or not changed for like two centuries or so.And then once you get to the 3100s do something like this would happen.
>>98358432Do you want to look up if Plasma Cannons need ammo just like the Rifles, or do you take my word that they do?
>>98358432I think some IIC ideas really won't be viable till Dark Age. There's surprisingly little variation in 2848 you can do for Clans unless you go into early Clan model stuff?
>>98359218just drop a heat sink and the ER smalls for some it's fine, it's just spitballin' shit
>>98347171Enforcer IICSkirmisher45 TonsQuirks: Barrel Fist (LA/RA) Fast Reload (LBX10) Improved Cooling Jacket (LBX10)BV 14734,534,513 C-BillsAfter some Davion defectors joined Aleksandr Kerensky on his exodus and brought their Enforcers, themselves newly introduced mechs, with them, the design wasn't changed until the clans had been firmly established. Clan Sea Fox attempted to created a better version of the design to refine it and the result led to the IIC's creation. In the years since it's inception, the Enforcer IIC has been used by Hell's Horses, the cluster munitions of the LBX10 proving effective at dealing with battle armored units, and later on production was restarted by Sea Fox to sell to the Federated Suns to mixed results.
>>98360258Wasn't the Enforcer a shelved SLDF design anyway and they wouldn't technically need Davions to be aware of it?
>>98360532yeah but I thought it'd be a bit more fluffy that some FedSun mechwarriors helped Kerensky out similar to how Lyrans join his side and thus led to the Commando IIC being a thing
>>98347171Thug IICBrawler90 TonsQuirks: RuggedBV 264410,598,960 CbillsDeveloped by Clan Diamond Shark the Thug IIC would, ironically, find itself in competition with the Warhammer once again. Also 10 tons heavier and developed with the improved technology in mind utilizing the improved Endo Steel structures and fourteen and a half tons of Ferro-Fiberous armor for protection. A pair of new Clantech ERPPCs provide its primary source of firepower with no minimum range. The SRM6s of the original were replaced with an array of efficient ER Medium Lasers with more or less the same purpose. 25 Double Heat sinks are almost good enough but not quite adequate, requiring the warrior to have a small amount of caution when firing but the cooling is far superior to the original Thug.It's tough, hits hard, and the warriors like it, especially how dangerous it is even after losing significant portions of the mech. But Merchant Caste doesn't seem to like that it costs more than the Warhammer IIC design and are considering killing the project right here.
Whitworth IICSkirmisher45 TonsQuirks: Rugged 1 point, Weak LegsBV: 1751Cost: 7,994,575 C-billsFor Clan Hells Horses the Whitworth IIC was forwarded as a complete rebuild not of the existing Whitworths but of the Whitworth design itself, bulked up by 5 tons to take full advantage of the mysteriously quickly advancing clan tech and layering up Ferro-Fibrous armour, endosteel structure and an XL 225 engine boosting the mechs movement. Rounding out the design was significantly upping the armament to 6x SRM6s, 2x ER Medium lasers and 2x Flamers.This was rejected for further development largely on the grounds that it was designed for a support role against targets that simply didn't exist any more in the Clan system, and with invasion of the Inner Sphere not looking to happen any time soon, a mech with its strength in anti-vehicle and anti-infantry roles simply wasn't considered viable. This was not aided by Light mech pilots that wanted faster designs, and medium mech pilots wanted more solid striking power at better range, taking advantage of Streak SRM systems. The Whitworth IIC would languish only in design form until Operation Bulldog saw some interest in exploring its viability again due to the mass deployment of Inner Sphere battle armour and vehicles in combat, but even by that point it was seen as a lesser option compared to other potential reworks of in-service mechs and omnipod packages for more modern designs rather than spinning up the foundries for another elderly design.
>>98360803I had a brilliant idea on a second thought. What if we leaned harder into the idea of a Zombie Thug? PPC in the CT, put some SRMs in the arms or side torsos. You can't normally have something as powerful as a PPC in the CT (At least in this era) with inner sphere tech.Plus if it's still a Diamond Shark design Merchant Caste might have a few quirked eyebrows at the idea of intentionally selling a mech that needs constant replacement parts. Imagine you sell a mech with essentially vestigial arms and encourage warriors to block fire with them. It's okay, we'll sell you the parts to replace the arm.
>>98347171Champion IICStriker60 tonsEasy to Pilot, No/Minimal ArmsBV 2,64212,476,160 C-bills>During the early generations after the Exodus, many Clans continued to field examples of the Champion, once ubiquitous among SLDF units. Though piloting these aging 'Mechs was never seen as a particularly glamorous assignment, the warriors of Clan Jade Falcon held it in particular disdain. For the Falcon is meant to soar, and to see a 'Mech so reminiscent of an aerospace fighter shackled to the ground was singularly offensive to their sensibilities. So it was that upon the election of Khan Patricia Bailey in the 2840s, the Jade Falcon scientist caste was ordered to rework the Champion into a new 'Mech that could finally realize its true potential. >What emerged from the Champion IIC program was a 'Mech that boasted a quintet of jump jets, augmenting its already respectable speed with a 150 meter jump capacity. And though it outwardly maintained the armless form factor of its namesake, the Champion IIC mounted a massive gauss rifle as its primary armament, supplemented by an LRM-10 in place of the short ranged missiles of the original. Rounding out its firepower, a pair of lasers in each "wing" pod provided solid medium-range firepower not dependent on ammunition. With 9.5 tons of ferro fibrous armor, the Champion IIC has fair staying power on the field, supported by an anti-missile system to enhance survivability at range.First time using an existing piece of art (MWO Champion) to slop up an illustration, changing the weapons loadout and giving it that TRO art style.
>>98360803>>98360929I love that it's still stupidly sinked, true to the Thug.What if, ok hear me out; what if instead of ER Mediums to replace SRMs... massed ER Smalls? Like, 10 of them. Is that fucking mad or Thug IIC A Budget optionBrawler80 TonsQuirks: RuggedBV 23688,476,140 CbillsA plain upgrade of the Thug at 80 tons with very little in the way of advanced technologies (quite possibly something to be picked up by Clan Smoke Jaguar given their weaker industrial base) removing its ammunition dependency and retaining its massive durability, though by the questionable decision to move to the very short ranged even in ER version Small Lasers, though with each hitting as hard as an Inner Sphere Medium, the potential for a laser shotgun blast of up to 50 damage at point blank range should the ponderous Thug get close enough might well spell the doom of a mech it's been slamming PPC shaped holes into.(Advance down the timeline to post 3060 and just slap 2 Heavy Larges in and a couple of ATM 6s with a ton of standard and a ton of high explosive ammo, strip 2 heat sinks to get a targeting computer and you can still alpha strike whilst only building movement heat and not spending anything on weight saving or an XL engine)
>>98361085>to replace SRMs... massed ER Smalls?It works for the Locust IIC, so why not?
>>98360803That's a Kingfisher C without all the omni parts. A good 'mech to copy though.
>>98347171Hedgehog IICJuggernaut100 Tons22,918,000 C-billsBV 3,006Command Mech, Improved Communications, Improved Sensors, Bad Reputation (Clan), Hard to Pilot, PrototypeTaking note of how an ancient Star League tripod had caused havoc on Burrock supply lines during Operation Klondike, Clan Fire Mandrill decided it would be amusing to attempt their own tripod design as an attempt of mockery of their hated rivals. This concept did not progress very far before rather significant flaws surfaced causing it to be scrapped before seeing battle with another Clan.The Hedgehog IIC is a far cry from the original tripod design, being a slow lumbering 100 ton command mech versus the fast scout it was based off of. On the surface it is considerably well armed and protected, featuring an extensive communication and sensor suite that an Inner Sphere commander would be in full envy of.The problem is that the machine requires the cooperation of two pilots to operate which aside going against most Clan warrior sensibilities, was especially a significant problem for the infamously fractious warriors of Fire Mandrill to overcome. In the first test run the test pilots from rival bloodhouses began fighting over the controls of the machine and started coming to blows inside the cockpit. An attempt was made to create two separate "bubbles" to divide the pilots but the test was quickly aborted once both pilots began trying to override each others controls. The final test before the project was abandoned attempted to see if getting younger warriors still in sibko to work together might produce better results, instead observers were treated to the sight of the cockpit canopies slowly opening and two young girls emerging to fight each other in hand to hand combat on top of the tripod. The mech would be sent for scrapping the following day.
>>98347171Thug IIC 1Sniper40 Tons5,546,293 C-Bills1632 BVOur superior weapons technology has allowed for massive increases in the combat capability of the mighty Thug. Refits of the existing chassis have contended themselves with replacing the outdated weapon systems. However! Our technician caste has developed a new model, capable of the same weapons as the Thug, as well as sufficient ammo and heatsinks, at only half the mass. This redesign leverages the considerable long-ranged direct firepower of the Thug at a fraction of the needed materials, while maintaining the short-ranged missiles when engaging at close quarters proves necessary.
>>98347171We gonna wrap this up? It's been over three days with nearly 20 submissions.
>>98368772Starting to think OP is working for CGL and wanting anons to develop designs for an ilclan recognition guide so he doesn't have to.
>>98369363If he is, I hope he steals my Swordsman so that pile of shit actually gets variants.
>>98369382I wish there were more swordsman variants. Aesthetically I like the mech
>>98369577An upgraded Swordsman would make a phenomenally great militia/corporate security mech for the Republic era. Switching to a LAC5, combine launchers into an MML, upgrade the small laser to a pulse for example, suddenly you got a lot of room to add armor, C.A.S.E. and heatsinks while retaining firepower to deal with raiding bug mechs or crush labor unions.
>>98369639A hyper-flexible mech could be neat, focusing on specialist ammo>Swap SRM and LRM for an MML>LAC 5 with special ammo
>>98369708Yeah that was kind of my idea as well. Only costs 2,805,693 C-Bills dry when I quickly drafted something. I feel this would make a great mook mech as well to face in a Republic era themed campaign/RPG playthrough.
OP here, I forgot to put an end date, but I have been doing 4 days from time of posting so this will close midnight EST tonight. Y'all have been throwing some great ideas up!When I start the vote, I'll also include a straw poll for the next challenge based off the list I have and suggestions from this one. That way we can do both votes at the same time.
Archer IICMiddle boat65 Tons8,078,510 C-Bills2,247 BVClan Hell's Horses have always sought to integrate more combined arms than most of its fell clans.SaKhan Patricia Cobb gave the clans scientist caste a mission to bring a infantry support lance to to clans touman. Group B, lead by Engineer Ashley cane up with the concept of taking an old Star League and bring it up to the new Clan standard.Based upon the Endo stell frame of the ACR-2Rb, the Archer IIC is a 65 ton mech that packs in more firepower than it's predecessor. Armed with four LRM-15s, each connected with an Artemis IV fire control system and 16 reloads per launcher, giving it a 50% increase in middle fire over the ACR-2Rb. For secondary weapons, four ER medium lasers were added. The Archer IIC's speed was not altered as it was seen as effective for infantry support. And 12 tons of standard armor was added, while this is less than it's precessor, this was viewed as acceptable for its role.
>>98369978Maybe this is a boring challenge that's been done before, but what about trying to recreate a Prime loadout of one of the Original 16 within the bounds of 3050s tech, like a Raskshasa or Black Hawk-KU as best as possible. It doesn't matter if it's crap, it has to be look like a Clan mech because "Clan mech good"
And we are closed.We had a lot of designs this go around.We haveWasp IICCrab IICBanshee IICCharger IIC >>98349252Catapult IICExcalibur IICStalker IICRampage IICHornet IICPillager IICDragoon IICFlea IICGoliath IICCharger IIC A >>98351969Awesome IICKyudo IICEnforcer IICThug IIC >>98360803Whitworth IICChampion IICThug IIC A >>98361085Hedgehog IICThug IIC B >>98365466Archer IIC>>VotingWe have a few categories. We will have winners or ties in each and our top 5 over all votes.The categories are.>>which design do you think is the best fit for the challenge >>Which design do you personally like best?>> Which design is most innovative?>>Which is the meth baby?>>Which had the best narrative text?Also we will include a straw poll for the pick of the next challenge. We currently have 17 suggestions. Let's do multiple choice. 3 votes, that gives you more options than all or nothing.1: Something with the clans2: 3051 C3 company/command mech3: Ultralights, quadvess and Lams4: Better Raven 3L contest5: Age of war heavy or assault6: IS Omni7: Ilkhan era clan design8: Police mech - was suggestion for Republic era9: LAMs, Quadvees, and Protomechs10: Nebula California11:Militiamech to battletech12:Widge13: superheavies14: something with specific requirements 15: combat vehicle16: Amphibious mech for an island/swamp world17: Dedicated Solaris mechVoting ends 6 PM EST , Tuesday the 21st
>>98372018I'll add it to the list next time. It's a suggestion and as we are gonna vote on them, others might enjoy doing just that
>>98372040Yeah, I was just thinking about it when I made an IS Stormcrow for fun.
>>98372034>which design do you think is the best fit for the challenge>>98371476 Best fits the idea of an IIC mech, it's similar to the base mech, just better with clan tech. Also spamming 60 LRMs per volley is pretty fun, just sandblasting enemies>Which design do you personally like best?>>98349252 Charger IIC, completely overhauls a dogshit mech, and turns it into a dogshit mech with the same exact issues as its predecessors. A normal person would have just used an XL engine, ferro-fibrous, and endosteel to upgrade all the lasers to medium and large possibly pulse lasers, but instead they made a short-ranged light medium which is kinda fast, which fits the charger Beautifully.>Which design is most innovative?This is like a better execution of the Charger IIC, it's a straightforwards concept of run fast and spam small lasers, but it's an effective strategy especially at the price. It's a perfect mech for Solahma troops, since it gives them the best odds of doing something and dying in the process and I feel like a good pilot could actually kill a much tougher target through sheer mobility and accuracy.>Which is the meth baby?>>98350432 mostly because it makes zero sense for clanners to pilot a mech with zero weapons.>Which had the best narrative text?>>98350722 I liked the expanded lore about the fate of the design beyond its initial creation and could see some of these becoming fairly popular mechs in varying ways with a few becoming popular in the IS after the invasion too.
>>98372107Whoops. For most innovative >>98351588
>>98372034>which design do you think is the best fit for the challenge >>98351787 The 3025 roster feels like the most natural choice for this, and the Goliath is a weirdo on par with the Scorpions.>Which design do you personally like best?>>98350777 This is mine along with the Wasp, but I'm happier with the Dragoon. It's a design that could really use more variants and will probably never get any.> Which design is most innovative?>>98349629 Keeping the loadout and carving down the tonnage is a neat idea that I wish the canon IICs did more.>Which is the meth baby?>>98350432 Mixing MASC and Superchargers is about as methed out as I could ask for, especially if it doesn't actually do anything with them.>Which had the best narrative text?>>98349252 Integrating a reason why the design didn't make it to the Invasion is a nice way to close off the story.>next challengeAmphibious Mechs don't get to have any play in the games and barely any more on tabletop, so it'd be fun to work on one.
>>98372034>>which design do you think is the best fit for the challenge >>98371476 would probably be something that would exist in canon alongside the other IICs the best.>>Which design do you personally like best?Carcinization of mechs is hilarious so >>98347714>> Which design is most innovative?I'm gonna say the Rampage IIC >>98350282 because of it trying the innovative idea of the Clans trying to rescue a design from Amaris's taint, and would absolutely be triggering batchalls.>>Which is the meth baby?>>98350432 has the right blend of insanity between no weapons and absolute max speed.>>Which had the best narrative text?This one where the Fire Mandrils try to produce a tripod while detailing why it failed and potentially being able to be a reason that taints the entire idea for the Clans feels interesting >>98363119---->What Next?I'm gonna go with these three for my 3 votes:9: LAMs, Quadvees, and Protomechs10: Nebula California16: Amphibious mech for an island/swamp world
>>98372034>>which design do you think is the best fit for the challengeI could easily have made this list a top 3 but going to settle on the Crab IIC>>98347714This very much feels like a natural evolution of the Crab design and feels like something Clanners would come up with. There were a few other contenders here that came close.>>Which design do you personally like best?>>98351588This one I could have made a top 5 list but going with the Flea IIC>>98351588It just fits the Clan Jade Falcon fighting style and insanity levels so much.>> Which design is most innovative?Going to cast my vote for the Thug IIC 1>>98365466Baby Thug keeping the firepower of the original but shedding 40 tons of weight by showing off all their weight saving materials feels something the Clans really would have done for an iconic SLDF mech. >>Which is the meth baby?Whitworth IIC>>98360878For the simple reason they've built the perfect mech for burning down cities as if the hand of Amaris touched it themself and taken a design that didn't need much to improve but when fuck it lets throw whatever we can on it.>>Which had the best narrative text?Goliath IIC>>98351787I like what the anon tried here and does fit with the character of Goliath Scorpion.>Next Challenge2: 3051 C3 company/command mech5: Age of war heavy or assault8: Police mech - was suggestion for Republic era
>>98372107>>98372034Also for the next challenge (thought when you said strawpoll you meant the website.1. Solaris Mech2. C3 Command Mech3. Militia Mech
>>98373110Honestly, I forgot that website even existed. It might not be a bad idea going forward.
>>98373624Democracy could be a mistake.
>>which design do you think is the best fit for the challengeI am gonna go with my own design here, the Archer IIC. I felt this was the kind of thing clans would do easily on. Less armor, more dakka and less weight.>>Which design do you personally like best?This one was a hard one, we have a lot of good designs, but it's got to be this charger >>98349252. You upped the speed, halved the weight and still only gave it small lasers! I just can't help but love it.>> Which design is most innovative the headgehog IIC >>98363119 . I loved the Narrative about why it failed as well, it was so well done.>>Which is the meth baby?>>98350432 hornet IIC all the way.insabe speed, little armor and while you had tonnage for a weapon you used a narc. Good drugs were used in the designing of this meth baby.>>Which had the best narrative text?Again it has to be this charger >>98349252 it is a well thought out narrative that fits the clans and explains it's lose within the toumanMy 2 cents on the next challenge 3051 C3 company/command mechCombat vehicle Dedicated Solaris mech
>>98376655If we could get the list expanded to 20, then we could use the roll function to randomly determine it.We have 18 >>98372018, so we would need 2 more ideas...maybe one could be a contest dealing with Handheld Weapons and 'Mechs designed to equip them, maybe also including weapons with the Jettison-Capable quirk?https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Handheld_Weapons
>>98376655It could be, but we will try it out and see how it goes.Folks we have one day of voting left. For future voting on challenges should we use straw poll? Not sure we can with the mech voting
>>98378805I'm mostly worried about not getting any bumps from votes letting the thread fall off the board. It's not like there's much else to talk about during the voting phase.
>>98378448Not a bad idea. Hell we could use roll20 to roll and number. It will roll a d17 if you tell it to. I am not opposed to rolling, I just thought it would be fun for the community bro get a say>>98378834We can bump it if needed, I did the first thread. I know some folks hate bumps, but eh it's better than making a whole new thread with do much room left on this one
>1: Favorite designI'm a sucker for the Banshee and I'm partial towards my own Rampage IIC, but the sheer brutalist simple beauty of the Awesome IIC gets me. >>98352214>2: Most innovative designHedgehog IIC, both for being a tripod dual-cockpit machine, and by out-Tomahawking the Tomahawk almost 200 years before its inception. >>98363119>3: Best NarrativeBonus points for waxing poetic on the Goliath IIC. >>98351787>4: Meth babyMy own Rampage IIC, because that thing will get somebody annihilated. >>98350282>5:best fits the requirementsProbably the Archer IIC. Simple, reeliable, helluva whallop. >>98371476>Next challenge1. Amphibious 'mech2. Solaris 'mech3. Something with specific requirements
Another idea for challenges, A: Infantry support B: Improved movement so partial wing, improved jumps, Nasc, super charger or the likeC: 3145 mixed tech assault mechD: Jihad era wobbie experimental heavy mech
>>98379066I think specific requirements could be fun, just someone proposes a mech they'd like to see, maybe add some fluff eg. "Lyran Commonwealth wants to rebuild its numbers following getting assraped by the Jade Falcons and wants a new heavy mech to be the backbone of its army, something able to engage clanners (especially new falcon mechs) on its terms and something flexible enough to at least decently engage all air and land targets it might encounter.">>98378805I think next one might be better off being shorter. I feel like people lose interest after a while and it kinda drags down the thread. I'd say 3 days is plenty for people to get their submission in, and if there's hypothetically a flood of interest near the end could always extend it by announcement.
>>98379445>>3 days is plentyI am thinking that as well. Seems for at lest 2 of the 4 challenges we got most within 3 days. I don't see why we can't do 3 as the default moving forward
I've honestly enjoyed this Clan IIC design challenge more than I thought I would though did struggle a bit for ideas that I felt were interesting so this challenge did feel like it dragged a bit even though it didn't actually. 3 days seems more than enough for a challenge.
>>98379622I think we got some good ideas. A lot of the designs would be fun to run even if they don't get many votes. Folks really did some good designs
>>98372179Glad you liked my Catapult design, wanted a lighter version in the vein of the Griffin IIC and the Shadowhawk IIC as it feels like many IIC designs are heavier than the original or they're the same weight
>>983794993 days may be good for submissions, but we might want only 2 for voting. We were hitting page 9 even with some discussion after the last vote, and said last vote was still within 2 days of the post announcing the voting opening up.
Just a reminder that voting closes in a few hours if anyone would like to weigh in.
>>98383524Yeah, I was giving three to give folks time to vote. But we always get more submissions than votes so I'll cut it down to two days next round and see how it goes
>>98383761A lot of wait for votes is that there is to this day anons incapable of looking at catalog and will only look no further than the index. Such anons deserve to be raped to death by UrbanMechs.
>>98383930You can't be raped by an Urbie. It doesn't count if you're both screaming.
>>98383761I think a strawpoll will help too. I feel like some people might not want to write why they like mechs as much as just voting.
Far too late to add an idea for this challenge, but with the success of the IIC challenge and my knowledge that a totem mech has to look like the totem animal and not just be named after it I think a totem mech challenge could be fun.
>>98384141I'll look into multiple question polls for the next round of voting>>98384867That one could be, but it kinda needs images to really hit.Okay folks voting is closed I'll post up results in a bit
Challenge 4 votes>>which design do you think is the best fit for the challengeArcher 4 votes >>Which design do you personally like best?5 way tie dragoon, crab,flea, charger >>98349252, Awesome>> Which design is most innovative?Hedgehog 2 votes>>Which is the meth baby?Hornet 4 votes>>Which had the best narrative text?Tie between the Charger >>98349252 and Goliath Top 5 (8) So many tiesArcher v4Charger >>98349252 v4Crab v2Flee IIC v2Goliath v3Hedgehog v2Hornet v4Rampage v2Next challenge in a bit
Thanks for running this, OP. It's a fun concept for a thread and pretty comfy.
>>98385198I was honestly surprised just how much people liked my Charger IIC concept. I feel kind of proud of it to be honest.
Challenge 5: Amphibious BattlemechThe year is 3064 and the planet of Carver V is in chaos, the chaos march to be precise. Many houses want this water world, but House Liao has a plan. The Capellan Confederation has put out a call to its manufacturers to create or modify a mech for amphibious operations to take a world that would rightfully be theirs without the interference of the Free Worlds League.>>Requirements: To create a new mech or a refit of a capellen manufactured mech for aquatic and dry land operations.Size: heavy 60 to 75 tonsWeapons: A mix of aquatic and dry land weapons. Movement: Any but UMUs are required Cost: 13 million C-bills or underTech: IS AdvancedEnd date: Thursday the 23rd 8PM EST
>>98385235Glad folks are enjoying it. I thought it would be fun as there are active BT fans here.>>98385543I enjoyed it, the thing was so clan, even it's flaws
>>98385650Here's the underwater table if any of you didn't know where to find it. It leaves out the torpedos because their range assumes water anyways.
>>98385778Ah thank you I should have included that.Underwater is almost always a close range knife fight
>>98385650Catapult CPLT-C1u65 tons11,054,175 C-Bills1748 BVOriginally intended as a simple conversion from LRMs to LRTs scope creep driven from concerns about flooding and combat effectiveness on land saw a number of additional changes occur. The greatest of these changes was the inclusion of Stealth Armor which was hoped to be a definitive advantage in the depths thanks to the reduced combat range and the fact that the additional cooling provided by the environment would help mitigate the increased heat buildup caused by the system.
>>98385946I find it fitting that the first refit is a Catapult
>>98385650>Size: heavy 60 to 75 tonsThere goes my Sha Yu 4u
>>98385778Are there any adjustments for Ballistic weapons as well? Or do they end up unchanged or made useless?
>>98388111If a weapon listed in the Weapons and Equipment Tables does not appear on the Underwater Range Table, it cannot be used underwater; sole exception are torpedo launchers.
>>98385650>Cost: 13 million C-bills or underShame about this part. Apparently something's been adjusted in the rules when it comes to the power plant of Superheavy 'mechs so that you can mount their engines on smaller 'mechs using a Large variant of the engines, and 60 Tons are able to mount Large XL and XXL engines and thus allowing me to create the Pic Related monstrosity...at a price tag of 115,470,960 C-Bills.Suppose I'll have to figure something else out.
>>98385650UMUs not available to IS tech until 3066 (tacops p.217, had to work out why megameklab was being a dick so fucked about with dates and then went to look it up)The Maelstrom - UWU (Under Water Update)75 tons SkirmisherCost: 8,890,131 C-bills BV: 1,861 Quirks: good reputation, searchlightAlright so here at Smenge Industries we heard about this contract and got our best brains working on it. You want affordable? We can do that. Underwater? Can Do.So we thought long and hard, how do you do underwater? It sucks down under the sea. It's dark and wet and you can't shoot things with autocannon.Well the first thing that came to mind was to find the most fish-like looking mech going. Unfortunately most of them are light mechs. But then we hit upon a gem, and kept going.And so we present to you the Maelstrom UWU.A side-grade to the Maelstrom 6K. Stripping out it's big expensive XL engine for a standard one, and some other crap it didn't need, lets us upgrade its laser array at the cost of a little speed. The heat issues are going to be much less of a problem underwater, so it gets back the ER PPC and LL of the 6E version.But it overall nets us the capabilities required whilst still retaining that classic high energy ranged arsenal and a degree of mobility. We even threw in a ferro-fibrous armour upgrade. We solved the fighting in the dark problem by adding some big ol' search lights, and keeping its active probe. And as a bonus for utility, we crammed in a little extending grabby hand on the left arm. Now, the Maelstrom isn't a design that's really suitable for a full head ejection system, so we very much suggest the pilots disable the auto eject function, and instead use the provided cargo space for appropriate survival and escape equipment.It's the Maelstrom you know and love; a little slower, surprisingly cheaper, a lot more durable, somewhat soaked, but as they say: Wetter Is Better.
>>98385650Archer ARC-4LU "SCUBArcher"70 tons10.136.823 C-Bills1.632 BVCelestial Wisdom,we of Totally Legit Business submit for Your consideration a refit of the venerable Archer 2L still in service with the CCAF.Our Shore/Coast/Underwater/Beach/Attack refit, fondly named the SCUBArcher, is equipped to emerge from the depths and rain destruction upon the enemies of the Confederation.Four UMUs provide this machine with reasonable maneuverability in the water, while eight LRM-5 launchers improve upon the 2L's long-range firepower. Four tons of CASE-protected ammunition allow these high-mounted launchers excellent endurance and the option to select multiple special payloads, while preserving the 'mech's ability to submerge and deny the enemy success should a side torso be lost. Two SRT-4s set in the legs allow the SCUBArcher to engage other submerged threats or shore patrol units aiming to disrupt its coastal bombardment. Four ER Medium Lasers split between the arms and the rear center torso serve the same purpose.This heavy armament is made possible by utilizing both Endo-Steel structure and Light Ferro-Fibrous armor. While the SCUBArcher is not as heavily clad as previous models, the water it operates in serves as an inexhaustible supply of cover. And should the 'mech be critically damaged despite all precautions, the valuable specialist mechwarrior can be preserved thanks to the included Full-Head Ejection System.Mass refits can begin immediately, and we have taken the liberty to prepare a retooling program for the Earthworks Limited production line on Tikonov upon its inevitable return to the Capellan fold.>Bonus challenge suggestioncreate a companion 'mech to another, be it a canon design or one of ours. For example, I want to see >>98387340 cook up a "Pet Shark" for the SCUBArcher.
>>98385650Ti Ts’ang TSG-9HuWeight: 60 tonsCost; 12,905,280 C-billsBV: 1,411Role: SkirmisherQuirks: Hyper-Extending Actuators*Glorious Chancellor we believe we have an answer for your requirement for a mech to drive those FedCom dogs off of Carver V. Taking the existing Ti Ts’ang we were able to modify it for amphibious warfare with minimal adjustments and reduction to firepower. The first change involved reducing the engine size which has caused a slight reduction in speed but in its place we were able to install mechanical jump boosters allowing this machine to not only fight underwater but soar out of the water and surprise our enemies! We have had to reduce the number of medium lasers by two and make them standard models and also used standard heatsinks but this allows for a better heat management curve to take full advantage of the triple strength myomer system. Expected to fight near shorelines we believe this mech will be able to deliver a killing blow before being able to disappear back into the depths ready to strike again!slightly fucked up the RS last time
>>98385650Fuzhu FUZ-4UCost: 10,036,800 C-billsWeight: 60 tons BV: 1,645 Role: SkirmisherQuirks: Rugged (2 Point), Non-Standard PartsWon Ton Industries would like to submit for the Chancellors consideration a new four legged design based off our experience with industrial mech products. Taking advantage of the new lightweight fusion engines the Fuzhu is designed for hit and run attacks on enemy forces being able to appear from under the waves to harass targets before being able to quickly retreat. To aid mobility we have installed a rather unique feature that I assure you will most appreciate. As you may be aware coastal terrain can prove quite challenge even for most battlemechs to get in and out of. So to allow for maximum ground clearance we have installed a track system on each leg allowing the Fuzhu to navigate even the most challenging of terrain.Each Fuzhu has been built using the finest Won Ton components giving this machine superb reliability and as only these parts can be found in our territory in the unlikely event one of our machines is captured our enemies will have no luck maintaining it.
OP here, my bad on not checking the year for form gear. Let's move the year to 3066 to access the required UMUs
>>98389833Doesn't that change the setting a bit? Carver V would now be known as Liberty and essentially under the protection of the Allied Mercenary Command?
>>98389889Likely, but not that the CC wanted it
>>98385650Wuzhiqi WUZ-1Qu60 tons8,184,080 C-billsBV 935ScoutFine Manipulators, Improved Life Support, Improved Sensors, Searchlight, Cramped Cockpit, Exposed ActuatorsBefore we can retake Carver V we need to have a better understanding of the current situation of the planet. To this end we will need to find a way to discretely gather intel. Maskirovka has proposed the deployment of covert observation mechs but the only mechs currently being allowed on planet are industrial designs. This has given our engineers an idea, by disguising a surveillance mech as an underwater mining platform we can deploy a scouting force on Carver V in preparation for a coming invasion.On the surface the Wuzhiqi appears as a premium model underwater mining mech complete with a full head ejection system as an added safety feature. Armed only with a single "mining" laser the purpose of this design is not to engage enemies but to map out the water routes on the planet. To this end we have incorporated visual design elements to help hide the true function of this mech. The front dumper is used to hide a sensor dispenser, the reconnaissance camera is tucked alongside the head spotlight, a cargo pod is used to cover up the NARC launcher which is meant for marking targets on land, and the communications equipment on the right side visually resembles an additional cargo pod where an ECM helps provide additional shielding from unwanted sensor scans. Great care has been put into the manipulators of this mech so it an give the appearance of performing delicate construction work to any would be observer.These features do come at a cost however. While the Wuzhiqi is more than capable of lasting several weeks underwater the significant amount of equipment installed has made the cockpit a rather tight fit therefore we highly recommend that nobody related to the Vong bloodline pilots this design. Overall though we believe this will be a great asset to Maskirovka.
>>98389833I was wondering about UMU.
>>98385650He-Bo HEB-8U75tDry Cost: 10,130,750cBV:2087Quirks+ Barrel Fists (L/R)Quirks-: Non-standard partsEsteemed Chancellor, we present to you the He Bo. Named after the water god of Terra's Yellow River, the He Bo is aimed to support our Fa Shih battle armor troopers in amphibious operations. All weaponry is mounted in its arms to this end. LRM-10 launchers allow for the deployment of smoke and Thunder ammunition to safely offload its deadly cargo, MASC allows it to quickly escape any beachhead killzones, and a Guardian system allows the He Bo to disrupt enemy communications and targeting.While its primary close range defense is the battle armor it is intended to carry, it also mounts a battery of medium laser for underwater combat and to cover the dead zone of its LRMs. To protect the pilot, a MASS system reverse engineered from the arenas of Solaris has been fitted.With such a weapon as this, the only freedom the soldiers of "Free" Worlds League will experience on Carver V is the freedom of the grave, esteemed Chancellor.
>>98391251I was in a bit of a hurry yesterday and didn't double check. Only had a small window to post before I got busy. I'll keep in mind to check next time
>>98385650Marauder MAD-5L-A (MAD-5L-AS)Sniper75tCommand Mech, Hyper-Extending Actuators, Low ProfileBV 1, 787 (-AS 2, 120)8, 177, 750 C-Bills (-AS 10, 995, 250)With our production of the MAD-5L nearing readiness, we have had the unique opportunity to accomodate for our -A adaptation package at the factory level. By replacing the Large Lasers and several heat sinks with a pair of Artemis-enhanced SRT launchers and additional lasers, the 5L-A is able to function as a devastating brawler during aquatic combat. Once control is established over the water, the 5L-A can emerge onto the surface to barrage the enemy with its PPC and lasers before submerging again to cool and reposition. These modifications can be applied and reverted using the equipment at standard repair facilities, should the battle turn toward a dry region.Please note that, although modifying the 5L to the -A configuration does not require removing the Stealth armor and TSM, you are encouraged to ease maintenance and operation by utilizing standard armor and myomer. The -A has not been tuned to support these systems and may be unable to maintain optimal heat levels. Should issues arise with these systems still in place, please file reports using the model code 5L-AS.
>>98385650Qīngwā (Prime Configuration)75 Tons11,355,313 C-Bills1890 BVBrawlerQuirks: Improved Sensors, Difficult Ejection21 Tons of Pods (Shown via Red Boxes)While this current contract is underway specifically for an assault upon Carver IV, it is clear to us from the many succession wars that the 'Mechs that last the longest are those that have a capability to adapt from battlefield to battlefield, and to hold initiative by your forces to be aware of and capable of engaging the enemy before they can do the same to you.To this end, Hé Shā Industries presents the Qīngwā Omnimech, within its Prime configuration to showcase the design specifications for the assault upon Carver IV.Making use of 13.5 Tons of the recently developed Stealth Armor technology combined with the recent recreation of the Beagle Active Probe and Guardian ECM Suite brought about from the programs laid out by the Esteemed Chancellor of the Glorious Capellan Confederation, this is a 'Mech that will be difficult for our foes to detect while having no difficulty doing the same in turn, especially with the Remote Sensors that the Beagle Active Probe it can dispense as well as focus upon improving the Active Probe with Improved Sensors allowing for even further detection and awareness ranges.With this built around Omnitech - even if the design needed to make the MASS removable makes Ejection difficult - any unusual obstacles encountered upon Carver IV or within underwater combat in general can be adapted to swiftly, making our conquest even more guaranteed. And once that conquest is achieved, the Qīngwā can be adapted to more conventional battlefields for us to maintain momentum and bring the light of the Confederation to further worlds.
>>98389307Just noticed jump boosters are experimental up till 3082. Really wish megameklab when you filter to advanced would actually stick to only advanced tech.>>98393168MASS is also experimental up till 3082?
>>98394212I think MASS should get an exemption like UMUs for this challenge.
>>98394212Does SSW do this correctly?
>>98394507It does make a bit of sense desu to allow it. Some of the tech I've looked at anyway a lot of stuff in the 3060s that is classed as experimental its not exactly being described as inaccessible, i.e. if you know where to look you can access it rather than it being only seen in a testing facility. Some of it even is described as being in field testing. If it were up to me I'd say any experimental tech like X-Pulses would be a go for the 3060s especially a mech of this nature but I'd have said no for the 3050s. I'll leave it up to OP to decide though.>>98394532Has the opposite problem. Classes UMU as experimental tech in 3066 among a few other things that are advanced.
>>98394212>MASS is also experimental up till 3082?...goddamnit, is this Tactical Operations? It's gotta be Tactical Operations, right? Because even though I have MegaMek set to Inner Sphere - Advanced and not Inner Sphere - Experimental, I was checking the various things to make sure it actually existed, and when I had glanced at the first link where it was officially introduced in the Solaris VII book, that book was explicitly set in 3067 where the description sound like it probably predated that by a few years.Fucking hell man, I thought I had done enough searching this time to avoid that. Post-Clan Invasion to Jihad is a cursed time period to build 'mechs in MegaMekLabs with.
>>98395038Fuck it we're going back to Maximum Tech. Fuck Tac Ops!
OP here, As always the Tactical Operations: Alternative Eras is what I default to. That being said Meklab is a bit off on some things. MASS does show up in advanced on 3066, even if TO:AE has it as a FS prototype in 48 and only in production for FS in 83.I am gonna go with Meklabs on this one as while it's not in mass production, it's not some unknown tech.Jump.boosters do not come into general production into 3090 however. So those are out
>>98395555Yeah doesn't help that Tac Ops is being contradictory as I was caught out at the production date quoted in Advanced Units & Equipment making it seem like it was already widely around, observe this example! Interestingly I did have a look in the old Maximum Tech book and its considered experimental tech for 3060s but then that also gave IS access to things like Improved Jump Jets pre 3070 so I am wondering if a lot of the confusion as far as MegaMekLab is concerned is due to holdovers from old sourcebooks?
>>98388925Well fuck it going to make a companion mech with no intent of it being an entry unless OP wants this to become a challenge within a challenge.Anubis ABS-3Lu30 Tons8,004,100 C-billsBV: 1,043Quirks: Extended Torso Twist, Difficult to Maintain, Exposed ActuatorsGreetings from the Magistracy of Canopus. As part of our ongoing commitment to the Trinity Alliance we would like to offer an escort design for your consideration. Fresh from the factories on Detroit we have modified our highly praised Anubis for underwater combat. Aimed at being a fast response platform that can provide meaningful firepower where it is most needed, this Anubis variant makes the perfect scout or screen for any force operating beneath the waves. While we have had to increase the price due to the inclusion of an ejection system that allows the pilot to survive the environment they are fighting in, for protecting your flanks you will no mech better suited!
>>98395827>this little guy is zooming around at nearly 50 knotsLmao, love it
>>98395555As the guy who suggested it, thanks for running the amphibious mech challenge
>>98395827When I read "companion mech" "escort" and "magistry of canopus" all together I was pretty much expecting [image related] but with missile tits to be quite honest.
>>98395689I'll have to do a bit more research in the future on stuff like this or just go " fuck it ilkhan era experimental assault mech, go!" LolI haven't cracked open maxi tech in ages, but yeah it and tach options are not anywhere close to in line with the current alt eras book. Meklab could be using the old stuff as it used to use it
>>98396158ngl I did try that but I quickly ran out of crits.
>>98396158Thunderbolt missile
>>98396265Probably could do all the research in the world and would be still be super easy to make a mistake. Civil War era seems to be the worst for this where a lot of fluff seems to suggest a lot of prototype equipment is widely available. More than likely all these contradictions has something to do with this era really being the last of the true FASA era and whoever writing at CGL hasn't really linked it well.
>>98385778I assume none of these weapons are allowed despite how funny some would be?
>>98396529If you can fit a Naval PPC on a Mech you can do whatever you want with it.
>>98396529Maybe a submarine dropship hunter? Like you get intel that a dropship os descending, get to periscope depth to get a lock, and fire the laser.
>>98396549>it's all fun and games till a pilot starts screaming over open comms "FINAL FLASH!"
>>98396597>>98385650>Amphibious Battlemech
>>98396770I'm just spitballing about the use case of an underwater naval grade energy weapon.
>>98396529>>98396549>a Naval PPC>>98396597>>98396788We're off to outer space.~We're leaving mother Earth.~To save, the human race.~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7mG7WUVkMw
>>98396788There is a canon submersible with NLs, the Wyrm SDS platform, but you would be better with cap or subcap missiles afaik.
I do like how anons thought process has gone from a space of a day to "How do we stealthily assault this planet?" to "How do we blow up this planet?"
Mad Dog variant2 UAC 20's4 tons of ammoMaybe a pair of ERML's but I don't think that will fit
>>98398804Err what? Aside from the Mad Dog only having 28 tons of pod space there is no active design challenge right now?
I feel like you could probably do a fun and cheeky c3 lance around this. Sadly this falls outside of tonnage and cost perimeters. A shame, because the Sha Yu seems fun.
>>98399070Sha Yu is an excellent little 40 tonner. Frankly to make close to what you are doing you could just take the SYU-4B and drop a couple of lasers. In fact if you just dropped the ER mediums and a medium pulse from that design you more or less get that loadout with max UMU
>>98398957yeah so you can't fit the ERML'sthe design is perfect other than that
>>98399125That is more or less what I did. Sadly I didnt pay attention to the tonnage and cost perimeters until after I had tinkered with this (and ran a few megamek games to test it).I dont feel like the gear adds a terrible lot in underwater operations, but as something that probes beachheads and spots for surfaced LRMs before fading back into the water, it works. The testbed map for this seemed to vibe with that concept.
>>98388925>>98399070You know what fuck it here is what I came up with. 10,638,133 C-bills with full head ejection system. Not going to add any fluff as past OP cutoff but I was curious if you could create a pretty decent underwater recon mech that can act as a striker.>>98399167Unmodified Sha Yu's and Lao Hu's would make a good land screening force here. I also think maps might be a good idea for future mech challenge ideas i.e. build a mech to fight in this terrain style challenge.
OP here, I got busy and Forgot I changed the close date to 3 days. I'll close it up and start voting when I get home. Sorry all.
Going to say I didn't enjoy this challenge as much as the other ones and I blame solely Tac Ops for this. Each time I thought of something that might have been interesting to try I was thwarted by a crucial bit of equipment being experimental rather than advanced tech even when the fluff I read up on said equipment made it sound like it was already in production. I would go as far to say I think Tac Ops has seriously fucked up dates for certain equipment because there are some weapon systems in particular that it claims are experimental but they are clearly not especially when there are frontline units actively using them.
>>98400719I'll have to be more careful in the future with these kind of limited challenges
>>98400857I don't think anyone did anything wrong, just got screwed over by the sourcebook suggesting one thing and saying the complete opposite. Its a mistake anyone could make.On the plus side I did get the opportunity to read through all the old sourcebooks vs new and I might have ammunition for a good autistic rant about everything CGL fucked up regarding FedCom Civil War.
We didn't get as many this round, but still some fun ones. We will try the straw poll this go around>> Hits the challengehttps://strawpoll.com/eNg6vQQGWgA>> Favorite https://strawpoll.com/GeZARkkEjyV>> Most innovative https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVRR1lnO>> Meth babyhttps://strawpoll.com/3RnYXMM2Qye>> Best narrative https://strawpoll.com/PKgleQQEaZp>> Favorite rules breakerhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvVBWxxnvThese close at 5 pm EST Monday the 26th.Any feedback is welcome as is new suggestions for the next challenge
>>98400906Yeah there are some weird things going on there. Especially in the changes between FASA, fan pro and CGL
>>98400991Well I am having positive opinions on strampoll at the moment.
>>98401064The graphic with pie charts and percentages are nice lol
So these are the suggestions still around1: Something with the clans2: 3051 C3 company/command mech3: Ultralights, quadvess and Lams4: Better Raven 3L contest5: Age of war heavy or assault6: IS Omni7: Ilkhan era clan design8: Police mech - was suggestion for Republic era9: LAMs, Quadvees, and Protomechs10: Nebula California11:Militiamech to battletech12:Widge13: superheavies14: something with specific requirements15: combat vehicle16: Dedicated Solaris mechI'm up for 2, 6 and 8 personally. If we were to do 14 maybe could do something involving 40 ton mechs as those often get a bad rep as a cursed weight especially with introtech but I myself think its a highly underrated tonnage. Thoughts on this?
>>9840114040 ton is a nice weight to work around. I'd be more up for either 6 or 5 though. 2 would also be fun but a bit restrictive. 8, maybe, but I already did one for the Urbie challenge so I'm personally good on that.
>>98401140I'm in favor of>14: something with specific requirementswhich could be either tonnage, mission profile, or making a specific piece of equipment (be it weapon or other) work.Solaris 'mech is technically a specific permutation of that particular challenge.
I can make another poll if folks like. You can even do multiple choice voting
I think the problem here is we need to flesh a few of the suggestions a bit more before deciding. IS Omni or combat vehicle for example is pretty much self explanatory but something with specific requirements or with the Clans is far too vague a suggestion as it could mean anything.
>>98401265I know it's more work, but I prefer to keep it in-thread. Hitting a button on strawpoll is just not the same as reasoning and shooting the shit in here.
>>98401323I am good with that. >>98401312I agree they need flushed out a bit more. It's one reason I give years and such. I like a bit more focus in the builds like we did with the IIC challage, but it can backfire like it did on the current one where I made it a bit too limited I think.Something with a specific requirement, we have done a few times. It's just every broad and always needs pared down.Whatever folks pic I'll try to give it some requirements and not wide open.
>>98398517>I do like how anons thought process has gone from a space of a day to "How do we stealthily assault this planet?" to "How do we blow up this planet?"If no witness are left alive, how can they tell you were there?
>>98401351Some are already pretty restrictive like the C3 company command mech, that's already 10 tons of weight dedicated to C3 masters which anons would have to work around with just 3051 tech.Raven 3L contest I would say each mech must have ECM and BAP plus a TAG and/or NARC with bonus points for maybe trying to match the price tag?Age of War heavy/assault could have a restriction on standard parts but nothing on primitive to keep things interesting?Police mech must have a non lethal takedown option?Trying to think of interesting restrictions for others that aren't too overly restrictive.
>>98401140>7: Ilkhan era clan designkinda like this depending on the specifics, a standard battlemech and not an omni would be nice as an omni would inevitably be stale
>>98401891Could mandate x tons of non-Heat Sink / Jump Jet fixed equipment per y tonnage to get some more diversity.
There was also a suggestion of copying a clan Omni with IS tech. Of the ones listed so far, 2,7 and 15 are my favs.On the ilkhan era, there is a ton to work with. It can be limited by size, faction or even tech. There are some wild things in that era.
>>98401140I tend to like the more open ideas I'd probably lean towards 2, 14, or 16. I think if we do the something specific we could do some sort of random generation>Roll 1d4 to determine weight class (light, medium, heavy, assault)>Roll 1d8 to determine role (Ambush, Brawl, Juggernaut, missile boat, scout, skirmish, sniper, striker)>Roll 1d12 to determine era (Age of War, SL, Early Succ, Lostech, Late Succ, Clan invasion, civil war, jihad, early republic, late republic, dark age, ilclan)>Roll 1d3 to determine tech if applicable (IS, Clan, Mixed)
Just had a thought and I'll need to look into it a bit more but what about a Frankenmech design challenge?
>>98403261Not sure how well Meklabs could handle frankenmechs.
>>98404635"Not" would be my guess. But to facilitate such a challenge, OP could pre-select a few chassis and we have to bake aspects of at least three together.
>>98404635MegaMekLab got an update enabling building of frankenmechs.
>>98404635As anon said megameklab has got it. Just not sure how good it is personally.
>>98404946I'll add it, but I want to play around with it before we do that to make sure we can. It makes the current list 1:Something with the clans2: 3051 C3 company/command mech3: Ultralights, quadvess and Lams4: Better Raven 3L contest5: Age of war heavy or assault6: IS Omni7: Ilkhan era clan design8: Police mech - was suggestion for Republic era9: LAMs, Quadvees, and Protomechs10: Nebula California11:Militiamech to battletech12:Widge13: superheavies14: something with specific requirements 15: combat vehicle16: Dedicated Solaris mech17: franken mech18: recreate a clan Omni 19: hand held or jettison capable weapons
Looks like megameklab 0.51.00 can do it and you can even port over the exact loadout of each mech part which is neat. Think that could be a basis of a challenge, you can't customise the loadout except armor or heatsinks and have to use parts from existing mechs only.
>>98405332I'll add 19 to >>98401171 and probably use one if the challenge is compatible. It's a neat little middleground between Battles and Omnis narratively, even if I'm sure it's dogshit in practice.
>>98405332I'd vote 7, 5, and 16 in that order. Would be nice to try out eras or buuld styles not normally explored. Seems like every build contest and most custom builds are Star League-Jihad and intended for some kind of standard combat. Could also just be a melee mech contest, maybe 3100ish to open the way for shields and vibroweapons.
>>9840533216 and 17 would be interesting together. Frankenmechs designed for solaris matches, with a cbill cost of x amount per weight class
Just a reminder polls close in a few hours if anyone would like to vote.>>98408312Could also just be a melee mech contest, maybe 3100ish to open the way for shields and vibroweapons.Consider it added1:Something with the clans2: 3051 C3 company/command mech3: Ultralights, quadvess and Lams4: Better Raven 3L contest5: Age of war heavy or assault6: IS Omni7: Ilkhan era clan design8: Police mech - was suggestion for Republic era9: LAMs, Quadvees, and Protomechs10: Nebula California11:Militiamech to battletech12:Widge13: superheavies14: something with specific requirements 15: combat vehicle16: Dedicated Solaris mech17: franken mech18: recreate a clan Omni 19: hand held or jettison capable weapons 20: dark age era melee mechOur top runner are2,7 and 14 with 5,6, and 16 right behind
I'm sorta feeling like next time, we may want to go with a Strawpoll for the 'mech contest while we vote for the 'mechs in the thread.May just be me, but I liked seeing people give little blurbs over why they voted for specific 'mechs that the Strawpoll just can't do as well. Meanwhile, the next challenge votes don't really feel like they give all that much feedback on that front.Speaking of that, put me down for favoring...2, 10, or 19.
>>98409239Nothing stops people from commenting on what they picked and why. Only reason I didn't comment was because I didn't vote because I don't care much about this challenge.
>>98409239Straw poll was suggested for votes , so I thought I would try it.Folks give your opinion of which style of mech polling you like best.
>>98409365I also enabled comments on the polls too
>>98409469>Request failed to save informationOh shit I'm sorry!
>>98409441I'd prefer in-thread for Mechs. Someone liked my phoned in MAD story enough to vote it in and I want to call him a bitch in person.
>>98409783Okay that's 2 for in thread votes.Polls I messed up the timing on, it was supposed to close at 5, but I have both 5 and six as times. So I'll consider it closed>>>>Hits the challenge Archer ARC-4LU "SCUBArcher>> Favorite Archer ARC-4LU "SCUBArcher>>Most innovative Qīngwā>> Meth babyTie between Catapult CPLT-C1 and Wuzhiqi WUZ-1Qu>>Narrative Tie between the Archer ARC-4LU "SCUBArcher and He-Bo HEB-8U>>Rules breakerThree way tie between Absolute folly , Sha yu SYU- 86 and Sha yu SYU- 4UThe Archer absolutely dominated voting this time with 10 votes between all categories.I'll post up challenge 6 in a bit.
Since 3050 the Draconis Combine has utilized its C3 network. Today that technology is common in the Inner sphere l, with C3Slaves a common refit. However mechs with C3 masters are uncommon and command mechs built to run a company wide network are near mythic ideas. That is what your company has thrown its hat in to do, fill in this glaring hole and make loads of C-Bills selling it as a must have design.>>Requirements Year: 3065Tech Base: ISTech level: Standard Size: heavy or assault Required equipment: At least two C3 master units >>Notes: I moved this to 3065 to try and avoid some mech lab issues. End date: Wednesday the 29th, 6 PM EST
>>98410129>StandardAre we doing current standard or allowing new core rules standard?
>>98410129Name: Charger CGR-3CWeight: 80 tonsCost; 26,722,140 C-billsBV: 1,575Role: SniperQuirks: Barrel Fist (LA), Easy to Maintain, Bad Reputation (Inner Sphere)With the development of the C3 system a need developed not just for mechs to utilize the C3 slave system, but for mechs to utilize the master system, especially at the company and battalion level. The base for this mech was chosen to be the venerable Charger, its high mobility allowing it to keep up with lighter striker lances that other assault mechs would struggle to.The Charger CGR-3C utilizes three C3 computers, two of them C3 masters and one a C3 slave allowing it to act as a company or battalion command mech (master to the lances or companies below it, and slave to the battalion or regimental commander). With so much weight taken up by its power plant and engines numerous compromises had to be made, the CGR-3C utilizing both endosteel and light ferro-fibrous, while its only armament is a pair of ER large lasers. As a benefit however its powerful XL fusion engine allows it to fit 14 double heat sinks allowing it to remain cool even when maneuvering and firing while still being protected by 12.5 tons of light ferro-fibrous armor, superior protection to most Victor variants.The Charger CGR-3C was quickly adopted by the DCMS first utilized as part of lances of Charger CGR-Cs unsurprisingly but later also added to lances of lighter mechs and scout mechs including Jenners, Sentinels, Kintaros, and Grand Dragons. Although underarmed for its size it is still a potentially lethal opponent and can safely rely on its lancemates to protect it as it uses its ER large lasers.
>>98410202Whatever Meklab is calling standard. Which honestly is some stuff not even available until 3072. CGL is fucking up the tech heavily. It's calling all kinds of shit standard that doesn't seen standard to me.So eh, we will use what Meklab says is standard and not have to dig though books that sometimes construct themselves for this one
>>98410129Name: Grand Dragon DRG-5KCMWeight: 60 tonsCost: 16,257,280 C-billsBV: 1,387Role: SkirmisherQuirks: Extended Torso Twist, Narrow/Low Profile, StableIn development since 3050, the 5KCM variant of the Grand Dragon was designed in mind for Tai-i who preferred to lead by example from the front, however designing such a machine proved far more difficult than anticipated. The first reason for such a protracted development cycle was the very nature of installing the requested C3 Master systems. While one system proved simple enough to include, installing two required significant rework of the internals of the Grand Dragon and this lead to several issues with early prototypes experiencing network failures as the two devices failed to connect to one another and brought the whole network down. This was eventually resolved by the use of a new endo-steel frame and a slight reduction in speed, a benefit of which armor was improved.The second delay was a more peculiar setback caused by the experiences of a field tested prototype during Operation Bulldog. During a battle against the Smoke Jaguars a Tai-Sho happened to be piloting one of the early models when he stumbled into a Cauldron-Born that had been powered down waiting to ambush. Reacting quickly he uprooted a tree trunk and quickly struck the Jaguar mech repeatedly on the head knocking the pilot unconscious before it could power up. The Tai-Sho then proceeded to use this makeshift club as a baton to direct his troops throughout the campaign and made a remark that he wished it had been a sword instead. This statement ended up causing further delays in development as designers hurried back to the drawing board to try and work out how to incorporate the wishes of the Tai-Sho leading to the final version of the company commander Grand Dragon model you see before you today, now capable of using a sword to inspire and direct the troops under its command.
>>98410282Fair enough. Things are already complicated enough as they are without the new Core Rulebook moving a lot of advanced tech to standard making it even harder to follow what is what.I am though a little disappointed that we have to build a heavy or assault for this as would be funny to be build a commander light mech.
>>98410282Damn. And here I was hoping to make a tripod, since the two person cockpit seemed thematically on-point for having a commanding officer on board.
>>98410129was the two c3 masters intentional or a typo?
>>98410129is this a refit challenge or can we make a new mech entirely?
>>98410450They are supposed to be company command mechs, I forgot to include the challenge name. I do feel like we should do something with light and mediums at some point.>>98410498That might be fun for a later challenge too, we haven't had a tripod or pure up command mech challenge >>98410552Yes, it's two masters as it's a company command mech.>>98410555You can do both. Some folks like doing refits, so I don't see a need to exclude refits for most challenges
>>98410129doesn't the Battlermaster BLR-CM already exist? it has 2 c3 masters and was created in 3064
>>98410129Smenge industries presents:The Tenchu.Cost: 20,826,660 C-bills Weight: 90 tons BV: 1,895Role: Sniper Quirks: Command Mech,Protected Actuators, Improved CommunicationsUnderstanding that a good commander needs to spend their time commanding, the Tenchu was designed as a 90 ton fortress of dominating samurai presence to be kept at the rear with its triple C 3 Group Administration Master System superiority. Taking the best lessons of command mechs prior, and derived from the already in-production Mauler's structure and engine; this machine comes in durable, with no need of ammunition, and well protected against assailants that might ambush it. A diverse armament needs to be managed well though ideally its heat sinks will not be taxed as its pilot merely uses its ERPPC to contribute at range, with the sword being largely there to channel the commander's samurai spirit in directing and motivate units. Twin Anti missile systems with a ton of ammo provide a limited but useful additional defence against incoming barrages, and an ECM system is included for the essential ECCM feature to counter network disruption.Standard components, and shared components with various existing serving mechs in the Combine help to keep costs down, making maintenance and repairs easier as readiness is of utmost importance for the field commander. A full head ejection system was included for helping to protect the valuable command asset piloting the mech, allowing them an opportunity to explain the loss of their mech before potentially losing their own head.
>>98410670Yes, it's one of two command mechs like this I can think of. That is fielded by one faction and only one faction. Two out of the hundreds of mechs in existence by 3065 is beyond rare.I also picked 3065 as that is when the tech became common outside the DC
>>98410129Name: Falconer FLC-10CWeight: 75 tonsCost: 23,784,250BV: 1,568Role: SniperQuirks: NoneThe Federated Commonwealth, reeling from years of war with clan Jade Falcon, was looking for ways to improve their communications and bolster command and control structures due to heavy losses following the clan invasion. The FLC-8R, developed in 3055, was designed and built using the bleeding edge of known technology at the time, and it ran into many delays and setbacks, pushing back production and keeping their numbers low for years. With current needs for the FC forces including compensating for heavy losses among the officer class and wanting tighter coordination between larger formations during maneuvers, and with the consideration that the Falconer is a modern and cutting edge Mech on its own right, the FLC-9R was chosen as the baseline Mech for a new design.Integral to the setup are the dual C3 Master Computers, one housed in either side torso. The FLC-10C drops the Gauss Rifle and three of the medium lasers inherent in the base FLC-9R model, picking up an LRM-10 with two tons of ammo along with an anti-missile system with a ton of ammo, with all of the ammo being set in CASE in case of unplanned ignition. The torso that houses the ammunition is also up-armored in order to further extend the lifespan of the platform. With a top speed approaching 80 km/h and jump jets capable of making 50 km/h, this mobile HQ will be able to outrun anything that it cannot take out at its own leisure.F-C has tested the FLC-10C in not only field exercises but in several low-intensity conflicts and had mixed results; The inexperience of the troops with implementing C3 technology and other factors have met with only limited successes thus far. Compounding these issues is the rarity of a field-ready FLC-10C; With the Federated Commonwealth only producing 6-10 FLC-9R's per year and the intricacies of working with new technology the FLC-10C's production numbers are low.
>>98410129Rifleman RFL-6C60 tons15,145,600 C-Bills1373 BVWith the advent of C3 technology came the need for dedicated command mechs capable of serving as central nodes of these networks. We at Kallon Industries have answered the call with the Rifleman 6C. Taking advantage of the Rifleman's exceptional communication equipment combined with a pair of C3 Master units allows for company level control while an Active Probe and ECM round out the 6Cs advanced electronics suite. The original Large Lasers and AC/5s have been replaced with a pair of ER Large Lasers which allows the commander to provide limitless long range fire support. The 6C maintains commonality with older models by utilizing standard structure, armor, and basic Medium Lasers to enable easy integration into existing force structures without significantly disrupting their logistics networks.
>>98410498I was thinking tripod as well and thing is supposedly they are becoming standard tech.
>>98410129>Tech level: Standard>Size: heavy or assaultWell, looks like a LAM meme build is not an option...
>>98411862You can always run for the 'best rules breaker' vote.
LAM rules need refreshing.Quadvees have a lot more lenient construction rules.
>>98412088nta but its more fun coming up with something insane within the rules.
>>98412340A 55 ton machine could carry a five-ton handheld for a sum of 60...
Feldherr FH-3R (German for Field Marshal)Sniper/Fire Support/CommanderQuirks: Command BattleMech, Non-Standard Parts25.482.083 C-Bills1.662 BVArchon, Grafs and Gräfinnen, esteemed Generals,it is the to our immense pleasure at Totally Legit Business to present to you the Feldherr!Following the design cues and outline of the excellent Hauptmann by our cherished colleagues at Coventry Metal Works, the Feldherr sits at 85 tons and can move at up to sixty-four kph. Sixteen tons of Standard Armor carried on a Standard Structure make peripheral repairs uncomplicated.At the heart of the machine, an Extralight Engine beats, enclosed by two C3-Master Computers and a Guardian ECM Suite.For weapons, the Prime Hauptmann's paired ER Large and Medium Pulse Lasers in the arms are supplemented by a trio of LRM-5 launchers and the iconic cigar, in this case a Small Pulse Laser! Two tons of ammunition in CASE-storage are located in the left torso.And of course no Feldherr would be complete without the cockpit adaptations suitable for a Command 'Mech.The Feldherr brings most of the Hauptmann's firepower with a longer range focus and the ability to coordinate company on a swifter chassis, ideal to stand with the Lyran Wall of Steel and coordinate overwhelming firepower or exploit targeting data of a Lightning Lance to devastating effect.Mass and technology have always secured the Lyran realm. The Feldherr is our contribution to its continued success.Buy smart. Buy classy. Buy Totally Legit. The bar is open!
>>98410129Arborist ARB-015TWeight: 65 TonsCost: 6,860,339 C-billsBV: 813Role: AmbusherQuirks: Improved Communications, Searchlight, Vestigial Hands (Left), Exposed Actuators, Poor WorkmanshipSneakiyu Industries would like to present an ingenious solution to the issue of command mechs being the target focus of any enemy and thus often being the first to be eliminated. To the untrained eye the Arborist appears as your run of the mill industrial mech outfitted for cutting wood, assisted by its ramshackle appearance and cargo pod to help move timber. Inside however is a different story. Featuring twin C3 masters and an extensive communication suite the Arborist can form a critical lynchpin in any C3 force without drawing any undue attention to itself. Afterall anyone that might suspect something is up will see nothing but them trees?
>>98410129Immortal IM-1Sniper100 Tons30,015,333 C-Bills2460 BVG. Quirks: Improved Communications, Improved Sensors, Difficult to Maintain, Poor Targeting (Short)W. Quirks: Stabilized Weapon, Accurate Weapon, No Cooling JacketA company commander is often more valuable with their focus upon issuing orders to subordinates with accurate information than engaging in combat directly, even if they should maintain some capacity of doing so. And yet more importantly, the commander must remain alive and active with their 'mech maintaining similar endurance upon the Battlefield to maintain the C3 network at the choke point of the C3 Master system.Developed in tandem with the Word of Blake by the Second Star League Defense Forces after the Third Whitting Conference, the Immortal IM-1 is a 'Mech designed to be as hard as possible to take down, reaching the maximum possible level of internal structural strength by available technologies and having [305 of 307 points] for its external armor. The sheer survivability was desired due to it being deemed a critical chokepoint as its twin C3 Master Computers would allow for Company level command via one dedicated to controlling various lower level C3 Masters and one to its personal command squad, and a C3 Slave unit was added in the theory it could in turn be commanded by a Battallion or higher level Commander. Defensive measures in an AMS, rare Angel ECM suite, and A-Pods further enhance these defenses.The Bloodhound Probe uses some further [Improved Sensors] adjustments to push its range to 300 meters, and two additional tons of Comms Equipment to the 'Mech standard 1 ton gives it [+1 Initiative] and further [Improved Comms] to let it pierce Ghost Targets and access Satellite Uplinks at near all times.The dissolution of the Second Star League at the Fourth Whitting Conference and would bring an end to the project, as the Second SLDF no longer existed and it lacked integration with the the Word of Blake C3i systems.
>>98410129Berserker BRZ-C3CMWeight: 100 TonsCost: 36,538,333 C-billsBV 2,268Role: JuggernautQuirks: DistractingDefiance Industries would like to present a command version of our BRZ-C3 model, designed to link an entire C3 company together. Tailored made for the officer that likes to lead from the front this Berserker can easily cleave most mechs in two with a single swing from its mighty hatchet when running at the right heat threshold. While expensive this unit is worth every penny for forces that like to get up and close personal with their enemies.
>>98410801>Yes, it's one of two command mechs like this I can think of. That is fielded by one faction and only one faction.It looks like these are all the ones with official record sheets put into MegaMek, alongside what they have for standard faction availabilities:>Sunder SD1-OB (3056) - Federated Suns and Draconis Combine aside from one moment during the Clan Invasion were it was also Inner Sphere General>Tai-Sho TSH-7S (3061) - Republic of Sphere, Word of Blake, Draconis Combine>Naginata NG-C3B (3063) - Draconis Combine>Battlemaster BLR-CM (3064) - Draconis Combine>Cyclops CP-11-C2 (3073) - Inner Sphere General, Rassalhauge only accesses it in Dark Ages on>Ares ARS-V1C Aphrodite (3136) - Republic of the Sphere initially, IlClan gives it to Sea Fox, Free Worlds League, Clan Wolf/Star League, and Federated Suns.As well as the following non-mech vehicles:>Partisan Air Defense Tank (Company Command) (3058) - Federated Suns, Word of Blake, Republic of Sphere, and from Dark Ages on, Capellans.>Morning Star City Command Vehicle (Company Command) (3068) - Federated Suns, Word of Blake, Republic of Sphere, and Capellans.>Maxim (I) Heavy Hover Transport (Company Command) (3069) - Inner Sphere General and MercenaryThere's also a Tenmaku Command Trailer that has an official source, but no listed published record sheet or faction availability.Most are Rare to Very Rare, but there's occasional Uncommons (ex. Cyclops in Dark Ages onwards) to even Commons (Tai-Sho for the Draconis Combine in Clan Invasion and Civil War as well as somehow, Federated Suns with the Aphrodite in IlClan).
>>98416467Oh, almost forgot the C3 Boosted versions, in which the only normal one is the Draconis Combine only Hatamoto-Godai HTM-30Z from 3140.The other two are the Capellans making a variant of the Strider called the SR1-OM which literally has nothing else than the two C3s and CASE because the CASE is fixed on that Omnimech. It's also got Inner Sphere - General availability.And then there's the Gulltoppr OmniMonitor (B). The on dual-C3 Master the Lyrans have access to that was made by Clan Wolf-In-Exile and also on the availability list of specifically the Kell's Hounds. It has not one, but two Long Toms.
Misallocation100 Tons8,016,170,000 C-Bills1860 BVCompany Command/Mobile HPGQuirks: Oversized, Distracting, Prototype, Command MechWhen HPG components were mistakenly delivered to a 'mech research program of the Word of Blake looking into Company Command 'mechs, an error in communications led to the creation of a Battlemech incorporating its systems into its form. The requests for further components to test the prototype immediately triggered an investigation and discovered the early prototype of the 'Mech that was still far away from a formal name. The project was ultimately scrapped to recover the valuable HPG components, with the name it was given ultimately experiencing a similar error to the original supplying of the HPG components, the name Misallocation becoming the formal name of the briefly existing 'Mech.
>>98416467That is actually far more than I thought, still not a lot. I think the entire C3 master feels is like 40 mechs. It's been a good challenge so far, nice mix of refits and new designs, which fits well with your list here.
>>98416871I thought that price was not too bad till I counted the zeros on the end.
>>98410129Phobos DMG-O70 Tons18, 972, 390 C-Bills (14, 613, 483 bare)1, 302 BV (1391 A, 1412 B, 1365 C, 1212 D)SniperQuirks: Battle Fists (RA), Barrel Fists (LA), OversizedDirector Greene,Attached is the schedule for next month's demonstration of the DMG as well as the configurations we will be exhibiting. The FWLM has assigned three SDRs, a CMA, and an AV1 to assist with the demonstration, all C3 compatible. Thanks to the General's generosity, we will only need to procure two 'Mechs with C3 Slaves on our own. Lisa will have an MRBC contract prepared for your approval by the end of the day, along with the details of a trustworthy company with her personal recommendation. She expects this group will be eager to place an order when full scale production begins as they have no Master-capable 'Mech of their own. As such, she intends to offer them either a discount and reservation, or the chance to purchase Unit 2 and its pods to replenish our liquid assets. Assuming our finances hold out or we can secure a contract, their usage of the Phobos should advertise the project to other potential buyers. Please consult her on the details of this proposal when you have the chance.Signed,Eric JamesonChief Engineer
>>98416871Aiming for the meth baby I see.
[there's conflicting information about some of the availability and tech levels here, but I deferred to MML]Raijin RJN-C3Weight: 85 tonsCost: 24,450,618 c-billsBV: 1,746Role: C&C and fire supportQuirks: Command Mech, Distracting, Improved Communications, Difficult to Maintain, Non-Standard Parts, UnbalancedIn its main role as a C&C battlemech the RJN-C3 mounts two C3 master units, a command console, an Angel ECM suite and a state-of-the-art satellite uplink, giving it potent networking, ECCM and command capabilities; defensively, it mounts a prototype laser AMS based on one "obtained" from the Federated Suns and has a single flamer that serves as both an efficient way to create smokescreens and a last-ditch weapon against foes at point-blank range. Offensively, and the thing that is always noticed first by anyone seeing the RJN-C3 for the first time, the right torso and right arm are replaced by a gargantuan Thumper artillery piece. While of little value at close range and underwhelming in along range direct fire role, the RJN-3 was always intended to be a company-level asset - the combination of a C3 network and Copperhead shells allow linked units equipped with TAG to call in accurate indirect fire at massive ranges while FASCAM shells allow the RJN-C3 to direct the flow of battle by remotely laying mines. All variants of Thumper shells are, of course, available and used by the RJN-C3 as the situation warrants but the standard loadout consists of one ton each of Copperhead and FASCAM shells.(1/2)
>>98421427Originally onceived in 2049 as a proof-of-concept command refit of the venerable Thunderbolt, the massive weight and bulk of production C3 units forced the RJN-C3 back to the drawing board. After the weight, configuration and integration of the CE units were addressed, the expense, combat value and role of the RJN-3C versus the level of protection it offered became contentious following the Combine's bitter first-hand experience with Clan weaponry. The debate was ultimately resolved on the design team by increasing the size of the 'mech, changing the armor type to reflective and changing the gyro and engine to XL and light versions respectively in the name of saving as much weight as possible for armor as well as an endo-steel frame. In 3060 it was pending final approval when the design team was ordered to add artillery support capabilities and another C3 master unit, which necessitated another major redesign. This was ultimately accomplished, but the unconventional layout necessitated by the addition of the Thumper and the bulk of multiple C3 master units led to the endo-steel frame being removed and everything else being crammed in wherever it fit - complete with a profusion of bespoke parts to facilitate this. As the RJN-C3 was never intended to be produced in significant numbers this was deemed acceptable by the DCMS Procurement Department and the design entered full production, but the reputation of the RJN-C3 is so dismal among technicians that the arrival of one to a new garrison is generally heralded by an edict indefinitely suspending leave and retirements.
>>98421427>>98421443Wouldn't this cause a little confusion?
I am kind of liking this challenge because its putting me in mind to hunt for mechs that fill a specific niche you thought there would be more of but there isn't if that makes any sense? So something like the Raven 3L is basically an EWAR mech and there is a few other such mechs post 3050 especially omni configs but I have noticed that such a mech type is completely lacking for 2750 outside a Hussar variant which seems odd as you'd think the Star League would have invested in such a concept. Gives me an idea for a possible challenge in the future.I am also mad that I can't submit pic related. 23,413,440 C-bill command mech capable of bringing its own artillery support to a C3 company and can't field it cause its considered advanced tech despite it all easily being in production for 3050.
>>98423763Unless the lore has changed, tripod battlemechs didn't become something "easy" to produce until the Republic era
>>98424175Tripods never get that status, same with Arrow IV despite the latter being considered one of the most common artillery types around and back in full scale production by the late 3040's. Its the whole mixing of rules with tech levels that make things a confusing ass mess so you have situations where you got weapons and equipment that are considered standard tech like C3 but its faction exclusive till 3065 so people think its experimental tech but not actually, not helped by the fact that tools like megameklab tends to rope in prototype equipment even if you apply the filters that is supposed to stop that.Actually since on rant mode now, have you fags checked Interstellar Ops Alt Eras page 27? The definitions are so ambiguous its like they are deliberately trying to make things confusing as possible. The in production term literally does state this include items that have been approved for manufacture but are proprietary to the producing factions, so that basically means it'll include equipment that is considered common within said faction but because no other faction can easily access it they'll flag it as rare if its not eventually widespread adopted. Which then raises more questions why haven't they made a consistent rule that everything under that category forms advanced tech then?
Some good ideas here folks, we haveCharger CGR-3CGrand Dragon DRG-5KCMTenchuFalconer FLC-10CRifleman RFL-6CFeldherr FH-3RArborist ARB-015TImmortal IM-1Berserker BRZ-C3CMMisallocationPhobos DMG-ORaijin RJN-C3And our 5 categories >>Which mech hits the challenge best?>> Your personal Favorite?>>Most innovative design?>> Who is the Meth baby?>>Best Narrative ?I'll post up the straw poll for next challenge in a bit
Here is the pill for next challenge, you can select up to 5 options.https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJae2O5g3Voting ends Friday the 31st at 6 PM
>>Which mech hits the challenge best?This is hard but I am gonna have to go with the Feldherr FH-3R>> Your personal Favorite?Grand dragon, all day>>Most innovative design?The Misallocation. That was so innovative it definitely got someone shot.>> Who is the Meth baby?The Arborist, let's put the company commander in the woods in a lumber mech!>>Best Narrative ?Grand dragon, totally sold me.
>>98424497>> Which mech hits the challenge best?>>98411045 It's a morbidly obese Griffin and I can't think of anything a commander would rather have.>> Your personal Favorite?>>98419850 I probably won't do a Compact Engine again, it just takes too many sacrifices, but trying to get 15 tons of pod space to work was pretty fun.>> Most innovative design?>>98410766 I don't think there's much practical use for a lot of the kit on this, but it sure is packed in there. >> Who is the Meth baby?>>98413731 Kiso funny.>> Best Narrative ?>>98410436 If any of these would be canon it's this, which is a bit of a shame when the Dracs are already the kings of C3.
>>98424497>>Which mech hits the challenge best?>>98413545Feldherr FH-3RIts a big juicy command mech that can assist at range and defend itself up close. Its a most sensible suggestion.>> Your personal Favorite?>>98411118Rifleman RFL-6CI just like the loadout and how simple it is. Being put on an existing chassis that everyone has access to is a plus.>>Most innovative design?>>98411118Rifleman RFL-6CWhich seems like an odd choice but logic here is that its easy to build complicated, its hard to build smart and there are a lot of smart design choices made here by this anon. Everything about this makes sense.>> Who is the Meth baby?>>98410766TenchuThe sword being for show and weapons being in the legs because of it, I like just how dumb it is.>>Best Narrative ?>>98411045Falconer FLC-10CIt does feel like a product of someone who is indeed inexperienced with C3 tech and the narrative does fit with the design decisions taking place here.There were a few designs I did like and wanted to vote for but I could not bring myself to do so as they were using advanced and experimental tech as per the challenge, which is against the rules!
>>98424554Barring another wave of votes, it's looking like Solaris Superheavies for next challenge.
>>98430205Our current tops areAge of war heavy or assault IS OmniIlkhan era clan mechSuper heavySomething specific Dedicated Solaris mechIf it's a tie, it's gonna be a random roll from the top boys
We seem to get more votes on strawpoll than in thread. There be lurkers among us!
>>98424497>Which mech hits the challenge best?I dunno.>Your personal Favorite?>>98419850A coin toss between this and the Misallocation. The Phobos was just luckier.>Most innovative design?>>98413731Lol.>Who is the Meth baby?>>98410766I find it very funny.>Best Narrative?>>98410766Same as above.
>> Which mech hits the challenge best?I think I'll lean towards the Feldherr >>98413545>> Your personal Favorite?Charger CGR-3C >>98410247. It is exactly what you'd expect with a Charger pressed into this sorta role.>> Most innovative design?The Arborist >>98413731. It's not strictly a good design, but it is trying to explore a retrotech option in a unique way.>> Who is the Meth baby?The Misallocation >>98416871. Just that price tag.>> Best Narrative ?Falconer FLC-10C >>98411045. It has a vibe to its description.
>>98424497>Which mech hits the challenge best?Looking hard at the other designs, I believe my own Feldherr to be the superior mix of mobility, toughness and firepower to slot into the command of most formations. >>98413545>Your personal Favorite?But I really fucking love Berzerkers. Fun fact, my first draft of the Feldherr had twin ERPPCs and a hatchet. >>98413900>Most innovative design?As another anon stated, the simple efficiency of the Rifleman 6C is outstanding. It won't draw fire, it'll contribute, it's tough enough to weather some strays, and it's built on a really ubiquitous chassis that'll be easy to refit. >>98411118>Who is the Meth baby?Misallocation, hands down. >>98416871>Best Narrative?I like the salvage-a-shit-design approach of the Charger 3C. >>98410247
>>98410129Name: Quickdraw QKD-3CMWeight: 60 TonsCost: 15,002,560 C-BillsBV: 1577Role: SkirmisherQuickdraws. A name widely considered synonymous with overheating. Poor build quality. Walking crap. Ankles as brittle as a supermodel strutting the catwalk with 10 inch heels. More importantly, easily purchased on the secondary market. The Quickdraw QKD-3CM was born from the gutted, scrapped husks of dozens of Succession Wars soldiers shuffled off to what they thought would be their final reward. Its purpose is simple: To keep your vulnerable Master Computers away from the enemy, and to repel lighter raiders which might attempt headhunter missions. The primary variant is more expensive, deploying a Light Fusion engine to expand the electronics package, adding a Beagle Active Probe and a Guardian ECM suite to help prevent ambushes and disruptions to the C3 network in the field. A more budget variant exists for buyers expecting to fight less technologically advanced enemies, shrinking down the cockpit and dropping both EWAR assemblies, saving enough tonnage to downgrade to the same bog standard fusion engine powering Quickdraws since their debut in 2779. Like its predecessors, the -3CM is geared towards close combat, using fists, feet, DFAs and a small but accurate battery of ER Medium Lasers with an integrated targeting computer. Unlike its predecessors, its heat management is relatively trivial and its armor isn't paper thin, significantly increasing the odds of the C3 Master units returning to base after a mission. In a pinch, the -3CM can serve as its own C3 spotter, using those 150 meters of jump capacity to enter close combat, but in general is best served on top of a small hill, ready to leap for safety. With its excellent mobility, this Quickdraw variant makes a good screening unit to protect the long range Mechs using the C3 network. It's much harder to rush down a Catapult K4 with one of these -3CM's running blocker.
>>98434676(The budget version, coming in at 10.5 million C-bills)
>>98434676>>98434685Too late, mate, but an interesting idea none the less.
>>98434887Yeah, I completely misread the time post lol.
>>98424554>>98430205>>98430766Looks like its IS Omnis that won.
>>98435360They're very underrepresented in the fluff. It feels fitting to give them some screen time.
>>98435360It has won it, I am late getting to it due to lack of Internet. Someone stole something as nothing worked lol. Let me tally up our winners and I'll get up a new challange soon
okay folks we had some good ones here>>Which mech hits the challenge best?Feldherr FH-3R >> Your personal Favorite? A ties as this often is between ,Grand dragon,Phobos DMG-O 2, Rifleman RFL-6C,bCharger CGR-3Cand the Berserker>>Most innovative design?A tie between the Rifleman RFL-6C and the Arborist >> Who is the Meth baby?We had a lot of drug options, it's a 3 way tie! Arborist , Tenchu and Misallocation >>Best Narrative ?A tie between the Grand dragon and Falconer FLC-10C >> Top number of Total votesFeldherr FH-3R 4Tenchu 4Arborist 4Falconer FLC-10C 3Rifleman RFL-6C 3Grand dragon 3Misallocation 3Challenge 7 up in a bit
Don't think there should any set restrictions for IS omnis other than anons have to declare crits and pod space.
Challenge 7: Innersphere OmnimechThe year is 3145 and the Innersphere is once more in flames. The dream of the Republic is dead, what remains hides behind the so-called “Fortress Republic”. Easy communication is gone, now only jumpships carry information in this new dark age. The Federated Suns is under attack by the Dragon, Jade falcon butchers girls way across the Lyran Commonwealth as the so called Wolf Empire attacks the Reborn Free worlds League. This is an era for new war machines, something that can adapt to the changing era, it's time to make profit with Omni mechs! Or ya know being patriotic or something I guess >>Requirements Year: 3145Tech Base: IS Tech level: AdvancedSize: Any other than super heavyRequired Equipment: NoneEnd date: Monday the 3rd, at 6 PM EST>>Notes: I rolled randomly to pick which of the 5 eras IS omnis could be built. 3145 Just called to me from the Dark Age era.
>>98436025Decurion Omni DEC-OM-1Mass: 40 tonsTech Base: Inner SphereChassis Config: Biped OmnimechRules Level: Tournament LegalEra: All ErasTech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E-DProduction Year: 0Dry Cost: 2,940,583 C-BillsTotal Cost: 2,940,583 C-BillsBattle Value: 653Chassis: Unknown StandardPower Plant: Unknown 200 Fusion EngineWalking Speed: 54.0 km/hMaximum Speed: 86.4 km/hJump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 0 metersArmor: Unknown Standard ArmorArmament: 14.0 tons of pod space.When one thinks of Omnimechs, one usually thinks of quality, of speed and power and massive payloads, of combat flexibility and the lethality of Clan war machines. For the Marian Hegemony however, a different idea was envisaged. Though the Omni equipment would have been like magic to a Succession Wars era technician, the payload of their new, relatively modest Decurion is anything but. In each of its variants, save perhaps the Zeta, it uses nothing but standard internals and vintage weaponry. In so doing, it was hoped that a home-grown machine might actually find success on the domestic and export market alike, bring prestige to the Hegemony, and unify their internal logistics chains. Accordingly, many of its variants imitate other pre-3025 machines. The chassis mounts full armor for a 40 ton machine, and with 14 tons of free space can deploy virtually all 3025 era weaponry save for an Autocannon 20. Software has even been included for "jailbreaking" Decurions in the export models, allowing prospective buyers to program their own Omni-variants.The most expensive variant is just under 4 million C-bills, they can be repaired with the crudest of equipment and the most unskilled of technicians, and with a top speed of 86 kph, the Decurion can at least keep pace with the average Spheroid lance fairly effectively. It is not a machine meant for heavy combat, this a rank-and-file trooper to the very core, and should be purchased as such. And in bulk.
>>98436121>>98436025Decurion Variants:The Prime is like a smaller Centurion, as might be expected from the name. Simple, multirole, a few lasers, a small launcher and a cut-down autocannon. One can be inserted into almost any force. Alpha is much like the Valkyrie, sporting a decently well supplied, decently large missile pod, along with jump jets to get into position. Beta is primarily used for deploying alternate munitions types when needed, using the tonnage saved by swapping the AC5 for a Large Laser in order to mount an SRM 4 launcher. It would be loosely comparable to the Shadow Hawk in intended role.Gamma doubles down on the energy weapons, mounting a simple, Crab-like payload of two Large Lasers and some extra heat sinks. Some have criticized their installment within pistol mounts in the arms, others enjoy the expanded firing arcs. Delta is an evolution of Gamma, carrying a single PPC, a token small laser for emotional support, a few extra sinks and most importantly, jump jets. This enhanced maneuverability has rendered Delta one of the most popular Decurions, a bit like the Panther.Epsilon, following Delta's success, went the opposite direction. Four medium lasers, brawling fists, jump jets and excellent heat management even with single heat sinks, lends itself well to skirmishing. In many regards, this is akin to a tougher, slightly slower Jenner JR7-F.Finally, Zeta is the exception to the rule. It is the only variant to use what would not be considered common technology in 3025, sporting a frankly obscene TWENTY rocket Launcher 10 racks in the torsos, alongside a couple more (woefully inadequate) sinks and a pair of Medium Lasers to use while maneuvering into position. Zeta is a weapon of last resort, a variant intended specifically to use worn-out Decurions for one last blaze of glory in defense of the state. Many speculate that the idea for this came from observing Taurian mentalities, though no direct link has ever been proven.
>>98436121You and others may want to spread the images out. if you make more than 3 a thumbnail it becomes unreadable, to me anyhow.
>>98436150Oh, does it? Hmm. I didn't want to spam the thread with multiple variant images, mostly. Does stacking some of them side by side like this help at all?
>>98436161Not for me, can you read it when you exspand it? The words are all pixilated to me
>>98436243I can, but I'm also using my PC monitor, rather than a phone screen.
>>98436252Ah, thanks for that info. I'll check it out on my computer then.
>>98436318Lemme know if it's still too hard to read and I'll just bite the bullet, post several images, and I guess beg the thread's forgiveness afterward, haha.
>>98436025Name: Chipmunk PrimeWeight: 30 tonsCost: 11,502,563 C-BillsBV:698The Chipmunk is our best attempt so far to produce a platform for Omnipods, and also our test bed for copying the QuadVee technology. The torso pod space is meager but allow adaption from anti-infantry roles, to convoy escorts, to as in it's Prime configuration acting as a scout platform.Good luck finding replacement parts, and remember, installing clan tech voids your 100,000 mile warranty.
>>98436025I should have also included under requirements * List Pod Space* List fixed equipment if anyI think it will be better for everyone but we know that.
>>98347163A decommissioned Atlas with a sound system installed that the elderly pilot uses to shout racial slurs at passerby's while advocating his fringe political beliefs.
>>98436570Same, but a clan version with a decommissioned Kodiak.
>>98436025Name: Stiletto STO-5Weight: 35 TonsRole: StrikerQuirks: Multi-Trac, Difficult EjectionRole: StrikerBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 5,952,656 C-billsSTO-5O 6,897,656 C-billsSTO-5OA 6,639,469 C-billsSTO-5OB 6,688,406 C-billsPod Space: 8.5 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 6.5 tonsResponding to rather lacklustre reception of the Stiletto during the FedCom Civil War mainly due to criticism that the design did not offer anything significantly advantageous over other existing mechs, Coventry Metal Works took it upon themselves to take the plunge and convert the Stiletto fully into an omnimech. Prototypes first rolled off the production lines in 3067 but the start of the Jihad forced the project to be shelved and the existing prototypes were quickly destroyed in combat. Never losing the blueprints, Coventry Metal Works saw the opportunity with the rapid rearmament during the Dark Age to quickly offer up an adaptable scout and raider design that seemed ideally suited to the nature of warfare taking place so have decided to resurrect the omni Stiletto and offer it for sale.The STO-5O is based off the STO-4B and is designed for raiding work. While some pilots lament the lack of anti-infantry weaponry this configuration is more than adequate for hit and run attacks against hardened targets.The STO-5OA is inspired by unofficial field refits of the STO-4A during the FedCom Civil War. Stripping off all the weapons for SRMs and replacing the ECM with BAP to find hidden targets, the 5OA configuration is often outfitted with inferno warheads and thanks to the multi-trac, is highly specialised in fighting groups of infantry, battle armor and even vehicles. The STO-5OB is intended as a raider configuration but one more designed to work alongside as well as hunt battle armor. The four ER medium lasers give it some punch while the LRM gives it some ability to harass at range but also provide smoke to help mask their approach as well as cover friendly forces.
>>98436025Name: Jotun JO-T1Weight: 65 TonsQuirks: Distracting, Hyper-Extending Actuators, Reinforced Legs, Bad Reputation (Clan), Oversized Role: See picsBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 23,655,638 C-bills JO-T1O 25,070,513 C-bills JO-T1OA 24,346,575 C-bills JO-T1OB 24,897,778 C-bills JO-T1OC 24,779,288 C-billsPod Space: 19 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 12.5 tons When Óri Industries, a new startup during the later days of the Republic, announced they were planning on not only entering the mech market but developing an omnimech no less there were few who took them seriously. It was therefore a surprise when members of Clan Sea Fox took an interest in the company and funnelling resources to the development team without any oversight. What had caught the Clanners eyes was the possibility of a promising fast new omnimech incorporating advanced safety features, weight saving technology and a triple-strength-myomer system that they could obtain exclusive distribution rights to. The resulting product ended up being a hulking monstrosity of a machine that was over budget and caused a hernia to Clan observers.The JO-T1O was the first configuration to be shown to Sea Fox delegation and while taken aback by the use of a hatchet concluded there was potential in a close quarters configuration and recommended a ranged configuration as well.The Heavy PPC on the JO-T1OA was a promising start but the Sea Foxes were puzzled not only by the continued use of the hatchet but of including several ER Flamers. A suggestion was made to develop a configuration without the use of a hatchet.The JO-T1OB made it evident they hadn't been clear enough. This caused a meltdown in the delegation who demanded they make a configuration without a melee weapon for fighting other mechs.A Trial of Grievance was therefore issued when they saw the JO-T1OC.Clan Sea Fox has not shown any further interest in joint IS omnimech development ventures recently.
>>98436025Well damn, I got inspired and I'm making it y'all's problem. Wall of configs incoming.Omniverine PrimeRole: Striker (Prime)55 tonsGood Reputation (IS) / Bad Reputation (Clan)13.212.656 C-Bills (Prime)BV: 1.575 (Prime)Ladies and Gentlemen,we at Totally Legit Business have taken a good, hard look at the Wolverine and wondered why nobody has dared remake it as an OmniMech. Hence, building on our success with the Shadomniation, we have perfected our in-house omnipod system and can now proudly present... the OMNIVERINE PRIME!Built around an Endo-Steel Chassis, a Compact Gyro, Light Fusion Engine with eleven permanently installed Double Heat Sinks and Jump Jets, clad in eleven tons of Standard Armor, each variant follows the pattern of right arm main firepower, right torso electronics, center torso energy weapons, left torso missiles and ammunition, and left arm anti-infantry and additional firepower. The latter point is the only quirk long-time Wolverine pilots making the switch will have to adjust to.The Prime variant of the Omniverine Prime echoes the -K models of Wolverines with its ERPPC, augmented by ER Medium Lasers in the center torso ball turret, an Artemis-enhanced SRM-6 on the left shoulder, and for the first time left-arm firepower in the shape of two Small Pulse Lasers for anti-infantry work.
>>98438890The Alpha variant takes a bite from the forbidden apple and takes inspiration from the Archangel Invictus. A Heavy PPC and Snub-Nose PPC will deal devastating blows, while a C3 Slave allows the sharing of targeting data with the rest of the lance. A Remote Sensor Dispenser allows this heavy hitter unexpected awareness.Variant Bravo has taken lessons from the clan Nova and CMW's Gauntlet B into account. While both of these machines have greater firepower on paper, they are incapable of sustaining that barrage. Our Omniverine Prime Bravo brings nine Medium Lasers split between the arms and CT and the means to fire them all day while jumping like a caffeinated rabbit. A TAG and Beagle Active probe allow this 'mech to crash any party, sniff out surprises, and direct the delivery of party favors.
>>98438926The ambush-oriented Charlie variant pairs a Hatchet with twelve SRM tubes, twin ER Medium Lasers, and a couple of flamers, protected by a Guardian ECM.The Delta (Davion ELite Targeted Advertising) backs up a RAC-5 with ER Medium and ER Small lasers, while profiting from a C3 Slave system.
>>98438935Paying respect to the prior C3-slaved variants, the Echo protects a C3 Master with an ERPPC, ER Medium Lasers, and Magshots.Finally, the Foxtrott - or Fire - variant prings a Plasma Rifle to the table, as well as a Heavy Flamer and an Inferno-loaded SRM-6, topped off by the near ubiquitous twin ER Medium Lasers.Further variants are in development, among them a TSEMP carrier and one making full use of Sea Fox supplied clan weaponry.Ladies and Gentlemen, with the Omniverine Prime you get not just a hardy, adaptable medium chassis - you get the next chapter of a legend.Buy Smart. Buy Classy. Buy Totally Legit.
>>98438890Ha! Someone else using y'all on here!
I feel this challenge is going to be a good time to settle some grudges caused by certain TRO entries for the 3060s.
>>98436025Argus AGS60 TonsQuirks: Easy to Maintain, No/Minimal Arms Role: See picsBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 13,144,000 C-bills AGS-O 15,336,000 C-bills AGS-OA 15,250,000 C-bills AGS-OB 16,976,000 C-bills Pod Space: 28 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 11 tonsWhen retired engineers from Achernar BattleMechs and Robinson Standard BattleWorks got together for a drink the topic of the Argus was brought up and both parties quickly agreed on one thing, the Department of the Quartermaster was ran by a complete jackass back in the day. After a few drinks one of the engineers brought out a laptop which still had the original omni configuration of the Argus, all finalised and ready for final production but never to see life as omnimech. The engineers all gathered round in admiration of their handywork before taking out their own personal devices with one of them commenting that he was logged into MercNet and saw various discussions about groups who would kill for such a design these days. Debate thus began to erupt around what other configurations they would have considered back in the day. After another round of drinks the impromptu design committee decided that they would have most definitely come up with a close range fighter that would have been perfectly at home in the city battles of the FedCom Civil War. Then one of the engineers asked as he got up to get another round what if they made something today?After several rounds of vigorous drinking the engineers came up with a heavy scout configuration able to seek and destroy targets or paint them for artillery strikes. Agreed that this would be a sensible unit for the current conflict the engineers saved their work, staggered out their chairs and shook hands agreeing to meet again next month. In the morning while nursing a hangover an engineer having accidentally shared the design specs publicly noticed he had several messages in his inbox all sent via MercNet placing an order for a new Argus omnimech,
All designs made with the new core rules in mind.>>98436025We here at Smenge industries asked ourselves: So what actually worked with Inner Sphere's own omni mechs? Why are the most common ones still the first generation ones? Is it because they're basic bitch battlearmour trucks? Probably. Well, we can't compete with that, and ain't nobody out there achieving the dream of a full omni company with a fuckton of omnipods on hand to tool up for every situation, even the Clans are struggling with that these days and are more content to use their battlemechs in frontline roles. And for using multiple loadouts, people just pick a config and stick with it, at most swap out gear due to damage rather than fuck around hot-swapping based on situation more often than not... and where have we heard of a mech that takes well to that before...Oh yeah.Our old, old, frequently heavily modified friend.The Hunchback.Presenting the Hunchback Omnimech. The HOnchback. Because Fuck You. (Swaybacks are valid too).Honchback HBK-00Weight: 50 tons Quirks: Battle Fists (both of 'em)Fixed Equipment: CASE II (Left Torso) 10 Double Heat Sinks (in-engine)Pod Space: 21 tonsCosts:Prime: 9,409,219 C-bills A: 9,455,625 C-billsThe base model comes in with a light fusion engine to give it a bit more mobility as going only 64kph ain't so hot in the 3100s, a CASE II protected side torso to stick all the ammo in and 10 double heatsinks as standard. The prime version mounts a Heavy PPC for its big gun (with additional heat sinking supplied), supported by 4 Medium Lasers, an ER Small and has 5 jump jets equipped to make this an effective slugger, cable of laying beatdowns in classic Hunchback style whilst staying on the move. The A model is a brutal Ultra AC/20 and a pair of ER Medium Lasers in the arms. It's simple. It works. Just what the average Hunchback pilot has lusted for in their dreams; to run up to some prick and jam not one but two AC/20 rounds into their face.
>>98436025Name: Thanatos TNS-6Weight: 75 TonsQuirks: Stable Role: See picsBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 14,355,469 C-bills TNS-6O 18,045,781 C-bills TNS-6OA 19,682,031 C-bills TNS-6OB 22,910,781 C-bills Pod Space: 38 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 14 tons Coming to the same conclusion independently as the designers of the Argus, StarCorps Industries decided to work the Thanatos back into an omnimech but took a different approach. Instead of simply resurrecting an old design they decided to update it with modern technology. Taking the TNS-6S as a basis for the new design, this omni version offers significant free tonnage although internal space in the torsos remains questionable.The standard configuration is a mobile skirmisher design meant to form part of a C3 unit, The second configuration is meant to bring the C3 unit together while providing long range direct fire support thanks to its C3 Master system. The third configuration brings an entire C3 company together thanks to its twin C3 Master systems and is mainly focused on providing a mix of indirect and direct support fire. When an entire company of these configurations are working together the new Thanatos represents a rather formidable fighting force.
>>98439750Costs:B: 9,652,500 C-billsC: 10,039,219 C-billsD: 9,624,375 C-billsE: 9,755,625 C-billsThen, we had fun. Because the Hunchback is Fun. You like Fun don't you? If you're a Hunchback Pilot, well, statistically you're probably some kind of Fun. Anyway here in this shit time one of the biggest threats is annoyingly large amounts of battle armour and infantry everywhere and one of the single best ways to deal with those little bastards is not to meet them on their own terms but over-match them.Appropriately the B model is armed with a Sniper Cannon with 20 rounds of ammunition and Four ER Medium Lasers to spread the hurt to the little bastards. That'll fuck 'em up.The C model is simple to remember, think C for C3. It's here to slot into your C3 network lance and provide a real nasty amount of explosive support with an Apollo guided MRM 40 to saturation fire the fuck out of some poor bastards. It's got ECM on it too because you'd be mad to not have ECM on a C3 mech now. The D model was based on the thought of hey, was if you wanted to AC/20 some cunt but they were all the way over there? So we crammed in a Thunderbolt 20 system. You don't see one of those every day. Maybe there's a reason for that but what the hell, 12 rounds of ammo should see it through, just don't point it at anything with an AMS ok?The E model is where we got a little fruity, because we had to demonstrate there's more to the Hunchback frame than just a big boom. This one is independent of an ammo supply, possibly heretical but we had to prove a point. Three Re-Engineered medium lasers and a Snub Nose PPC coupled with 5 jump jets and a bundle of extra heat sinks makes this version a nightmare for all those pricks out there stumbling around slowly with their hardened armour. Not so hard now eh. At about or under 10 Mil on the market the Honch is definitely more expensive than a regular old Hunchie, but she's safer, she's faster, she's easier to fuck about with. Do it.
Feel we might need a category for best existing mech to omni conversion just for this challenge.
>>98436025Name: HopperWeight: 100 TonsQuirks: Poor Workmanship, RamshackleRole: See picsBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 6,116,667 C-billsHOP-O 6,809,167 C-billsHOP-OA 7,491,667 C-billsHOP-OB 8,079,167 C-billsPod Space: 17 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 19 tonsUncle Vasaleks here, heard you were all in the lookout for some discount omnimechs? Well search no more as we have the product for you! Introducing the Hopper, a brand new omnimech design in no way shape or form scrounged together from whatever parts we happened to have available! Each Hopper has unparalleled jump capability that you will not find on any other assault mech this weight I assure you!We believe in offering consumer choice and totally not whatever we happen to find off the back of a dropship! Fancy a big autocannon? Got you covered! Want to fire big missiles at your enemy? Go for it! Wondering where the hell we got that experimental laser system from? None of your business!The beauty of this omni is that we can cater any order to suit any customer so what are you waiting for? Purchase your own Hopper today! Just remember, no refunds!
>>98440259What in the actual fuck? That's a lowercase f flea.
>>98440259If there was ever a shoo-in for the meth baby award, this fucker here... that's actually terrifying in a way.In fact I would like to propose my own variant for it:EquipmentHatchet RAHatchet LASpikes to fill.Why two? In case it needs a spare. And hey, it's the Dark Age babe, shit ain't gotta make sense.
>>98440677Uncle Vasaleks here, sorry we weren't able to source some fine hatchets at short notice but we were able to fit the next best thing!
>>98440795Dare you to mount a fluid gun in the CT low
>>98442369There you go laddie!
>>98436025Name: PallasWeight: 45 TonsQuirks: Easy to Maintain, Easy to Pilot Role: See picsBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 4,520,738 C-bills PAL-1O 5,276,550 C-bills PAL-1OA 5,999,738 C-bills PAL-1OB 6,375,378 C-bills Pod Space: 13.5 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 8.5 tons Sensible Solutions Incorporated would like to introduce an easy to fix and simple to pilot omnimech aimed for the mercenary on a budget. While using readily available but inexpensive weight saving materials does limit the space available the cost savings are hard to ignore and the use of standard engine not only brings costs down but increases survivability drastically. Each of the standard configurations have been designed to fill different roles for first time buyers.The first configuration takes inspiration from the Hollander and is meant to snipe targets at range. The Heavy PPC can punch holes in targets while the laser and SRM launcher provides backup for anything that comes close.The second configuration offers a mobile skirmisher design capable of harassing enemies at long to medium range. Energy weapons help give this significant endurance on the field and the multi-missile launcher offers a wide variety of payload options.The third configuration we offer as standard if a heavy scout meant to locate and mark targets. While short ranged this configuration is highly mobile and has some high accuracy weapons to defend itself should combat arise.All three configurations are offered together as a bundle with parts that help you adapt your machine how you see fit, so if you find yourself searching for something more suited to your needs then customization has never been easier. We also offer these mechs on finance however please be aware this is subject to credit checks and failure to keep up payments may result in your assets being seized as collateral.
>>98436025Name: HunchbackWeight: 60 TonsQuirks: StableRole: See picsBV: See picsCost: [BASE] 5,577,200 C-bills HBK2-O 7,431,700 C-bills HBK2-OA 6,783,700 C-bills HBK2-OB 7,067,200 C-bills Pod Space: 22 tonsCrits: See [BASE]Armor: 12.5 tonsSensible Solutions Incorporated has decided to reinvent a classic and convert it to an affordable omnimech. Taking note of the various swayback configurations that have appeared over the years it has been made evident that the Hunchback would be a prime candidate for an omnimech conversion. Taking the original chassis as a starting point the mass has been increased by 10 tons and armor increased making this a more sturdy design. While the iconic battlefists had to be removed as part of the omni conversion process we have incorporated DHS technology making this a far cooler design than the original. During design and development we found that it was easier to retain the arm lasers when adjusting configurations therefore they were upgraded to ER models and form an integral part of the design.The first configuration is a simple update of the classic. A large LBX autocannon gives this juggernaut significant up and close personal firepower and the lasers provide adequate backup. One addition that has been included that some pilots may appreciation are jump jets which allows this to finally become a mobile city fighter.The second configuration is based on a popular swayback variant built around providing missile support. A pair of MML launchers give this configuration a lot of adaptability and when combined with the extra lasers offer significant punch up close.The third is based on the most popular swayback variant. An all energy configuration armed with a heavy battery of medium pulse lasers give it highly accurate firepower at close range while an extra 9 heatsinks help meet the heat demands. A small pulse laser rounds out the arsenal and provides some anti-infantry protection if it is so needed.
>>98436025Kestrel KST-OStriker55t, 16t PodsCommand Mech, Difficult to MaintainBV 849 (1,710 O, 1,711 A, 1,700 B, 1,894 C, 1,918 D)15,912,300 C-Bills (Pods: 871,875 O, 1,509,022 A, 7,393,500 B, 1,094,688 C, 998,200 D)Inspired by the evergreen Phoenix Hawk, the Kestrel is a heavy reconnaissance OmniMech designed by Sorenson Industrial. Although its original configuration is still under evaluation by the Ghost Bear touman, models utilizing IS technology have been authorized for export. Each configuration is designed to support and transport BA, utilizing a specialty gyro especially adept at maneuvering with their extra weight on the Mech's frame even while using its MASC. Most also carry consumable modules within their compact pods.The base configuration is its most traditional, supporting a brace of Medium Lasers with anti-personnel pulse models. These conventional armaments are supported by an anti-armor laser and chaff launcher.In the A configuration, a Partial Wing allows the Kestrel to harass its targets until given an opportune moment to discharge its capacitor-enhanced Snubnose PPC. A pair of single shot SRM launchers allow the 'Mech to deploy smoke in case of limited cover.Configuration B mounts a Supercharger to further enhance ground speed, allowing the Kestrel to rapidly reposition to where it can most effectively employ its MMLs. An M-Pod is mounted to provide an additional knockout punch against priority targets.Although vulnerable in protracted combat, the C configuration is equipped for defensive operations, where the limited ammunition for its Thunderbolt launcher can be more easily replenished. In case it is unable to resupply, the secondary lasers are upgraded to ER models.Drawing on other proven designs, the D pods utilize an array of 10 lasers as a primary weapon. Two coolant pods allow for extended fire, while two M-Pods intensify its opening salvo.
>>98436025Duelist DLS-O55 Tons19 Tons Pod SpaceAgile Jumper, Non-Standard PartsCostsBase: 15,469,646 C-Bills / 652 BV-O: 16,721,271 C-Bills / 1680 BV-OA: 16,715,943 C-Bills / 1356 BV-OB: 16,942,146 C-Bills / 1405 BV-OC: 17,624,146 C-Bills / 1474 BV-OT: 17,294,771 C-Bills / 3104 BV90 years ago, we introduced the Inner Sphere to the DLS-1T Duelist. A radical BattleMech built for a radical era, the Duelist had its skeptics, but for those with the courage and skill to wield it, they found no finer substitute. Today, we stand in another radical era, an into it we bring the Duelist OmniMech.By utilizing the most advanced weight-saving technology of our era, the DLS-O is built around two revolutionary technologies that truly bring the Duelist concept into the modern age: the Improved Jump Jet and the Radical Heat Sink System, with 19 tons of pod space to spare.In the basic -O configuration, we have perfected the original design goal of the Duelist: to be the lightest, most nimble 'Mech in the Inner Sphere to mount twin ERPPCs. Faster, with 50% better heat management, and mounting a Targeting Computer to fully leverage its long-range capabilities.If the -O is the DLS-1T as it wanted to be, then the -OA is the perfection of the original Duelist as it was: a long-range skirmisher with a terrifying close-range backup. Trading the PPCs for ER Large Lasers, the -OA also carriers a brace of Variable Speed Small Pulse Lasers for when the time comes to jump into point-blank range.The DLS-OB leverages the improved mobility of the Improved Jump Jet to function as a dedicated close-range brawler, with Snub-Nose PPCs, X-Pulse Lasers and ER Flamers for sustained action up close.The -OC is a simple modification of the -O, trading the targeting computer for a boosted C3 Computer and extra heat sink, allowing for even greater accuracy at range as part of a C3-enabled lance.
>>98447562Finally, while strictly outside the bounds of the contract requirements, we have taken the liberty of designing the -OT, a refit for mounting Clan-spec PPCs, boosted by Capacitors for a truly terrifying long-range output.90 years ago, the Duelist leveled the playing field with the Clans. Today, we are proud to re-introduce it to an Inner Sphere once again marching into an uncertain future.
omni-bump
>>98450404Too late for that, but it's archived. Next thread is going to have to open on a vote though.https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2026/98347163/
okay guys, we have some good ones here.Decurion Omni DEC-OM-1Chipmunk PrimeStiletto STO-5Jotun JO-T1Omniverine PrimeArgus AGSHonchback HBK-00Thanatos TNS-6HopperPallasHunchbackKestrel KST-ODuelist DLS-OWe only have 4 categories this go around>> Your personal Favorite?>>Most innovative design?>> Who is the Meth baby?>>Best Narrative ?Next challange https://strawpoll.com/eJnvVBbaWnvVoting ends Wednesday Aug 5th at 6 PM EST
New thread in a bit, will repost voting
>>98450868Probably could have had most reasonable as a category here or most likely to be canon. Will also wait till new thread to cast vote.
New thread>>98450906
