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Previous: >>98342144

Patrol Edition

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?
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>>98348531
>TQ: Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?
It is very frustrating watching people hold their removal because they're expecting me to take care of shit. It's the reason why I stopped playing my Silumgar, the Drifting Death dragons/control deck
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>>98348531
>Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?
every time I run picrel.
I always have fun even though I haven't actually won yet... usually someone just ends up being able to go off from hand or with only a single creature on board when it's turn 15 and everyone has a million lands in play.
maybe I need to run more / better winconditions than just punching people with a 21/20 Kraven... or more wraths.
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>TQ
I play a pretty shitty boros orb walking deck, and its makes 2 people in my pod regularly rage out.
>I can't play the game!
Literally your fucking fault for only have aura shards as artifact and enchantment removal.
Even so, winter orb and stactic orb doesn't make them as angry as forcfield and crawlspace for some reason.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>Apex Altisaur is good they say
>Play it
>Give it indestructible
>Its not a may
>White fag uses flawless maneuver.
>Game has to be a draw because neither of us can remove the dinosaur. So it just keep fighting forever.
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>TQ
I kind of want to try more slow paced control decks because I want matches to last like 10 turns but I think shit like rule of law or stax is gay and I just want to play fat dinosaur creatures the way God intended
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>>98348650
protip: "up to one" can mean zero
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People call me a hatebear and a fascist, but I just want everyone to play magic as intended ;_;

https://moxfield.com/decks/Mune7O1KXk-tiTkzuDlK1w
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>>98348650
kino
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>>98348628
I don't get why people don't run more enchantment hate. Like Anguished Unmaking has saved my stupid ass so many games because it can just exile whatever I need without any muss or fuss. Legit think it's better than an artifact or enchantment only hate piece if you have a way to get it back into your deck
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>>98348682
You'd be surprised how few decks run ANYTHING that can deal with enchantments/artifacts. I have so many friends that get salty as fuck when I remove their shit because they're used to them always sticking while playing with other people
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>>98348650
>>98348660
griggers being griggers what can you say
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>>98348531
>TQ: Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?
Stike deals. For every removal they use, you use two. You tey force responses from them, especially if they haven't cast any of their removal. Tap out or don't remove obvious threats.
>oh jake has a combo half-assembled
>oh it's completed now
>me? I'm fine, not sure about you two
>you guys should stop that
>sorry, I don't have much artifact removal
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>>98348623
Throw in Essence Harvest,Sketal Grimace,Masamune and Dying Wish if you dont have em already. Essence Harvest is a great card in decks where you regularly get a big ass creature
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>>98348776
>Card obviously intended to work a specific way
>"Damn I hate people using the card this way"
Ever wonder why Amalia blows everything up as a 20/20?
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>>98349052
amalia blows up everything because she's forced to, because she's a woman
apex altisaur is obviously a man who knows better and will actually prefer not fight to the death, but hey you're a dumb green mtg player that can't read and can't accept he's wrong lmao
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>>98349051
Is there any similar cards like Essence Harvest in mono black?
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>>98348531
>TQ
Very, very bad. I wasn't playing stax so I was leagues behind everyone else the whole time in terms of board presence, and everyone hating me for stopping doing their thing.
I still run lots of removal so I have it when I need it, but I only target game-winnibg or snowballing threats now. Pisses less people off.
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>>98349082
Similar in what way? That us scales with your creature? Or that it drains? Cauze yes on either individually, but I'm not sure about both.
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>>98349118
Id love to hear both please, anything even remotely similar
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5color commanders were a mistake
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>>98349138
This is the closest I could find. Most things involving poser or toughness in black sacrifice.
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>>98349155
Your mom fucking your dad unprotected was a mistake, but here we are.
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>>98348531
>TQ: Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?

I often find control the most satisfying archetype to play at my LGS because there are so many midrange value piles. People just try to bash out their haymakers and win the game asap, which isn't very interesting. I've built a couple decks that try outracing that strategy but as an EDH boomer I miss the days of consistently hour+ games.

That being said sometimes with how legit terrible the average """Commander""" player is these days control can feel downright predatory. So it's not something I play all the time.
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>>98348662
What fucking retard designed this card and decided the flavor text shouldn't be the "I was baptized twice" line
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>>98349166
That works actually. Thanks anon gonna buy it right now. Appreciate it
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>>98349171
go back to standard, slop pig
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>>98349187
Uh baptism is hecking stupud religiomyth CHUD
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>>98349187
every single UB card is like that
either completely dogshit flavor text like the miku cards or the least fitting quote from a specific character (and even better if it's on the side of the card you'd never see)
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What are you doing is someone at the table casts Adios?
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what do we think bros?
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>>98349362
Bitch basic. Im thinking Planets will make a return which may be interesting
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>>98349362
redshirts to be used as sac fodder let's goooo
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>>98349379
>>98349369
>>98349362
Don't care
Where's Picard
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>>98349419
don't know yet
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>>98349383
Took the words out of my mouth, anon.
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it may be an ugly reprinting but at least it will cost about $12
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>>98349362
>>98349369
>>98349379
CAN THESE CARDS BE ANY MORE GENERIC?
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Holy fucking slop rofl
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>>98349449
yes
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I know these suck horse ass but I'm going to post them like I post any spoiler
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>>98349419
Here he is bro, now eat up
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>>98349291
Scooping is at sorcery speed, so I wait for my turn and gg. Shuffle up for next.
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>>98349471
>>98349462
>>98349443
>>98349433
>>98349424
>>98349379
>>98349369
>>98349362
Depths of slop never before seen
Like if this is what they're spoiling what is the rest of the set like
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>>98349486
Just wait and see anon damn
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>>98349481
Welcome decks are back? Is that how they'll make people start playing MTG now? With Star Trek? A franchise known to be successful only with old people? Couldn't even have used Marvel for this one? Or maybe the licensing fee for Marvel was too much for them to keep the welcome decks around for too long.
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>>98349481
6 mana.
For that.
They did him dirty
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>>98349497
How many times do you secondary retards need to be told cards in Welcome Decks are bad?
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>>98349505
You think this is bad anon?
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Wtf are Welcome Decks?
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The black Welcome Deck seems to be the best from what I see
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This is probably the only card I think is neat so far
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>>98349518
It used the be the way new players were introduced to the game in LGSs. You'd go to one, the owner would show you five decks and ask up to pick one, maybe he'd get some other newbie and give him another deck and walk you through your first match and then you were surprised when they said you could keep the cards because it was a Welcome Deck for new players.

I got started with those and it was kind of fun for a few weeks, then I wanted to upgrade and then a jump into standard proper.
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>>98349518
Entry level decks for beginners to get to know the game
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>>98349521
Who is this for?
Star Trek fans fucking hate the Borg Queen
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Just plastering the actors onto the cards is the ugliest, lazies way to do this. The commander boxes look cheap as shit.
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>>98349533
>Q is a creature type
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>98349533
>Vulcan instead of Alien Elf
Highly illogical.
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>>98349533
>Vigilance, Ward 2, Can't be blocked
>In a welcome deck
This fucker is such a bullshit card for this type of "format".
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>>98349497
There's going to be multiple Picards anon, just look at the like 4 fucking Captain Americas in the marvel set
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I'm a long time player, but I'll begin playing edh soon, any generic tips to not annoy others? I know about checking your deck's tier to avoid having an excessively unbalanced table and avoiding using decks based on land destruction or discard since they're bad etiquette
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>>98349540
>>98349540
I have almost zero knowledge of Star Trek so I hate everyone so far
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>>98045064
It's here
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>>98348662
You're a faggot. But that's ok. Be the best fag you can be.
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>>98349554
Don't worry, most of the effects shown so far barely have anything to do with the character's personalities or skills beyond some vague, general comparisons. That one, Beverly, is the closest so far because she's a doctor, but even then the effect is so generic that it would have fit most of the other doctor characters in the show.
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>>98349554
>Curse words on a magic card
I cant play this game anymore
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>>98349551
Just don't run board wipe tribal and you'll more than likely be a fine addition at the table, anon
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>>98349527
There aren't enough decent top end artifact bombs so I'll take what I can get
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>>98349497
welcome decks are supposed to be the equivalent of the tutorial decks in arena, the problem is that they occasionally release a card people actually want to fuck around with in them then they end up being like $20
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>>98349521
Pricy, but neat. Will fit into my Golbez deck. I don't know who either of them are.
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>>98349554
Mite b cool in my Living Saint deck
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>>98349568
Barely flavorful. They really tried to summarize a really complicated and nuanced episode in a TCG card effect. Also, arguably, the whole dominion war was the "saga" rather than just the pale moonlight incident.
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>>98349583
Aren't the sagas just supposed to be specific episodes
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>>98349517
Good with Kilo
>>98349577
Only remotely interesting new card in the ones revealed
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>>98349527
very cool, i can actually use this
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They show Quark yet? I need to know how much of a filthy fucking Jew I can be
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>>98349586
No, I mean thematically. Doctor Who gets away with it because it's a mostly episodic series. DS9, specially that season, was much more about a consistent plotline episode to episode. In the Pale Moonlight is basically a turning point to an ongoing issue rather than a neatly self-contained thing. I'm being over critical, it's an ok translation, but still eh.
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>only good star slop previews are reprints
>all the reprints have ugly ass art
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>>98349597
He is going to be Rakdos
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Here's the commander decks
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>>98349566
Thank you, I try my best within a mid budget.
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>>98349607
These look like shitty pogs from the 80s
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>>98349607
Fuck me, another Esper incoming.
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>>98349607
>Landfall
Wow, I fucking hate it.

>Seek out card draw
For a second I thought they had decided to put the alchemy arena mechanic in the physical game.
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>>98349571
got it, thanks
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Noticed I forgot the green Welcome Deck
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>>98349569
>>
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Are those ST cards a reveal from today?
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>>98349533
>FUCKING
>CREATURE
>TYPE
>GOD
>DAMMIT
>I'M
>MAD
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>>98349577
>in Narci's colors
OH GOD OH FUCK
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>>98349577
This card doesn't do anything, right? Everything just phases in as normal on each player's turn.
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>be me
>cleric enjoyer for years
>waiting for the inevitable cleric lifegain trigger doubler
>it finally drops
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>98349685
Did you miss the part where it makes a token that says things can't phase in?
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>>98349369
>no coffee token
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>>98349685
Nah it phases everything out but then makes the creature that keeps things from phasing in right after
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Okay that's fitting
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>>98349607
People have been complaining about repetitive designs in Standard but I haven't seen the same with these precons when they also deserve it
>Mardu Aggro, again
>Esper Tokens, again
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>>98349705
Fuck that's really good
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>>98349685
READING THE CARD EXPLAINS THE FUCKING CARD GODDAMMIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>98349696
>>98349717
I actually reread it like five times and kept reading "Permanents phase in" when it dies for some reason.
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>>98349707
the other two decks are literally just the eoe precons but less interesting
>jeskai spaceships
>landfall (without the sacrifice part)
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>>98349720
Yeah its a lot of words
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>>98349512
So this is totally a Spider-Man situation, right? A welcome set that's going to be as simple as possible? I really didn't think they'd do that again.
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>>98349747
anon they made welcome decks for marvel too they are always like this
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>>98349155
Sheldon saw 5c Hermit Druid become the strongest deck in the format despite never wanting to cast its commander a single time, and he decided it was okay.
5c slop is a pillar of the format, chud.
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>>98349753
Oh fuck. Nevermind, I'm retarded. I completely missed the Welcome Deck part of the post. Thought these were previews of the main set or precons.
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>>98349424
Colorless impulse draw? Well that's something. I hope this means more exploration of previously color locked abilities.
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>>98349790
Impulse draw isn't exactly an effect most colors are pining for given that red gets it specifically in the place other colors would get normal draw.
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>>98349492
>quick, reprint the duals!
damn, they have no faith
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Breaking News

Joey Schultz and Matt Morgan have been fired from edhrec. too bad Dana Roach dodged the bullet.
>who?
nobodies of value
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>>98349795
True it's not exactly a mechanic other colors would want. But you get what I mean right? Impulse draw has been exclusively red and red combinations so far, it being opened to more colors would come with implications for other color specific effects.
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Give me Kira and Ro and Quark and leave me in peace
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>wanted to use DS9 in MTG to get a friend into playing
>Sisko is a six cost do nothing
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>>98349817
I mean it's in the same realm as blue getting Reach in Marvel. Yes it's technically new but functionally it's a worse version of something it already had (flying).
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>>98349822
WELCOME DECK
WELCOME DECK YOU ILLITERATE FUCK
AHHH
THERE'LL BE MORE WORTHLESS SHIT IN THE COMMANDER DECKS AND SETS
WHY DOES ANYONE COMMENT ON THE MADE TO BE SHIT WELCOME DECK CARDS THAT MAY AS WELL NOT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!
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besides dark depths any interesting tech for this guy?
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>>98349668
Anyone?
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>>98349831
Google it
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>>98349831
>>98349668
yes
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>>98349861
Thanks anon, good to know
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>>98349527
I LOVE one sided board wipes!
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>>98349891
How do you figure?
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>>98349891
I love stringing players along when they attempt to do one sometimes
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>>98349899
>have a board state threatening enough to be worth wiping
>have 3 mana up to counter
you were already winning
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>>98349897
nothing's more fun than every game being decided on who digs their one sided wipe first!
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>>98349517
Best card revealed so far.
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>>98349935
you can board wipe seven times but if you don't have a threat to follow it up you're going to lose anyway
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>>98349935
What, are you not allowed to run your own artifact creatures?
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>>98349935
Fries in the bag bro. Run the protection spell.
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>>98349941
this but the red one that deals damage when tapped. freed from the real go uuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>98349966
>this but [different card]
Why not just make a post to that one then you parasitic little faggot? Are you stupid? Do you not know how to scroll up?
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>>98349980
(you)
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>>98349984
Trying too hard
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>>98349946
and you can because this shit doesn't affect your board!
>>98349961
NO that's the whole point of wipes. you DON'T overextend
>>98349963
>I always have it!
>I always have it!
>I always have it!
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>>98350002
>i always have it!
>but i always have a board to complement my one-sided wipe!
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>>98350002
>Grr I hate this really common thing
>I won't add 2 mana cards that stop this because I'm retarded and want to LARP like I'll never draw it
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>>98349691
you'd run this if it were an enchantment without a body, don't let your autism stop you.
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>>98349691
As a fellow tribalist, I respect your pain.

Why the fuck is the Doctor subtype filling out so much anyway? I thought it was a throwaway for Dr Whocares but it was in Marvel and now Trek.

What's the difference between a Doctor and a Cleric? Are they going to retcon previous clerics to be doctors?
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>>98350018
>>98349963
NTA, but that's not an answer. If you have a Heroic Intervention in deck, and even in-hand, that only stops one spell one time (and that's to say nothing of shit like Rift that just gets around that). What're you going to do when the next player casts their asymmetrical wipe after that?
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>>98348531
>TQ: Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?
Breddy good. I won.
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>>98349492
>reprinting shocks again after they got reprinted less than a year ago
Wizards knows this set would be doa if it dosent have a bunch of chase reprints
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>>98350098
>it took 2 people to beat me
sure anon i can take a loss you're supposed to have a 25% winrate anyway
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>>98350098
>What if your opponents invest 14 mana of resources when it takes you 4 mana to counter it
Gee I dunno anon real mystery here.
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>>98350118
And two cards.
You left out actually needing those answers in-hand constantly, which in itself is a dumb argument since those cards are bricks that ask that you to potentially fall behind two mana to always have that answer ready. In the case of Rift and its non-"destroy" friends too nothing short of a T-Prot or Counterspell is going to work. Hell, >>98349899 isn't even that great of an answer since you didn't actually eliminate the threat and you went down a card; a Tithe is usually just better.
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>>98350144
>My opponents each individually always have more than 3x my resources and I can't draw protection or establish an instant speed mana outlet
Unironically massive skill issue.
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>>98350116
>it took 2 people to beat me
If that's the approach you want to go, then why run the protection spell? All you've done in that scenario is spend resources to kingmake Player 3. If the end result is losing anyway, then why not dedicate that slot to something that can advance your own gamestate?
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>>98349492
godless shrine and hallowed fountain seem like slop
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>>98350151
>Did not read post
>Tulpas his own argument instead
Toskifag-tier argument
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>>98349521
>body horror is ok when it's UB
>>98349512
>guns too
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>>98350155
>then why not dedicate that slot to something that can advance your own gamestate?
you could say the same thing to your opponents, why are they running 8 mana(!!) boardwipes instead of an 8 mana win the game card
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Does Commander Damage 21 go past You Can't Lose The Game effects?
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>>98350172
>Cyc Rift
>8 mana
Do (you) even play the game? And, yeah, whenever those types of asymmetrical cards drop, it's usually because someone wants to try winning the game.
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>>98350175
No. "You can't lose" beats everything that would make you lose, except you personally scooping
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>>98350175
no, why would it?
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>>98350178
>except you personally scooping
This isn't true
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>>98350183
I mean... yes but no but also yes......?????
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>>98350018
>thinks 2 is enough to combat a very common thing
retard
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>>98350176
>haha see i used a busted gamechanger so your argument is invalid!
let me guess you put dread cacodemon in every black deck too? it's an 8/8!!
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>>98350175
No. If they use a temporary effect like pic related, as soon as the turn they used it on ends, they die.
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>>98350186
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>Show off cards for goonbait like 7 of 9 and Sato
>Don't show off a card for fucking Sisko
Fuck you
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what if my opponent casts worldfire but I make my platinum angel fly really high to avoid it?
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>>98350184
Can't beats can baby, you can't scoop!
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>>98350197
concession accepted, scrub
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>>98349804
They actually had to do that because of the Lorwyn kerfuffle. Lorwyn Eclipsed with the other half of shocklands was supposed to come out in 2025, but because it got postponed to 2026, it resulted in a situation where once EoE rotates out of Standard, there would only be 5 legal shocklands.
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fetches should be in standard again
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>>98350162
>2 mana instant that wins you the game is a brick but the 6 mana sorcery that turnskips you if anyone has said 2 mana instant is meta
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>>98350155
this is the exact problem with modern card design. there is 0 reason to run 1for1 interaction because then the other players get ahead. instead everyone just runs the fucking one sided wipes that win a board stall and a do thing draw card legend soulless pile
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>>98350183
Do not research about the Honolulu Standoff Platinum Angel Incident.
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>>98350198
goonbait?
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>>98350199
>someone at negative life
>last opponent uses beast within on their platinum angel
>they respond by ephemerating it to fizzle

Does platinum angel player lose the game in that singular instant where angel is off the board before it blinks back in?
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>>98349521
They made Khan into a Sheoldred reskin instead of this, are you fucking kidding me??
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>>98350210
there's a problem tho that the 2 mama instant doesn't infact win the game for you now does it?
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>>98350204
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>>98350224
>Turn skip your opponent and wipe the board of 2 other players for 2 mana
>You can't win the game after this
Unironically skill issue.
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>>98349527
My Sami deck will eat good with this.
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>>98350214
lmao this was the first thing I thought of too
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>>98350231
How does Heroic Intervention stop two different players from casting two different wipes on two different turns?
Please explain this.
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>>98350085
It's like construct and robot.
One's magical, the other is purely scientific.
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>>98350221
Gotta sell packs somehow
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>>98350219
I believe, based on my understanding:
If there was something that triggered on it ltb, yes. That would cause prio go pass and SBA to check the board and see the player is dead.
Otherwise, no. It leaving and returning is part of the spells resolution and SBA aren't checked mid resolution of a spell.
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>>98350264
golem is the purely magical unit
construct is the halfway point between golem and robot
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>>98350258
You play the second protection spell to match the second 6 mana investment from your opponents, since we're playing in manufactured christmasland where they both drew their wipes on the same turn and decided it was time to play them. Never mind how in this scenario, you doing literally nothing puts you in a reset because two asym wipes from two different decks = full wipe. So the floor is parity and the ceiling is now you are the only person with a board, having effectively played Ruinous Ultimatum for 4 mana.
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>>98349362
>another new ultra specific creature type
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>>98349722
EoE did not have a spacecraft oriented precon and that was a fucking crime.
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>>98350274
>You always have the second..
concession accepted larper-kun
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>>98349607
>Reality Fracture gets only one precon
>this gets 4
FUUUUUUUU...
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>>98349607
Feel like we've been getting a lot of Jeskai decks lately.
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>>98350279
This is why we need to kill cephalids, shamans and the other obsolete ones
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>>98350274
>since we're playing in manufactured christmasland
Anon, two players each having their own game-ending threat is not Christmasland you stupid faggot. That's how multiplayer games work. You don't actually play EDH.
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>>98350274
When did the fact of 3 players having more resources than 1 go over your head?
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>>98350234
This kills Sami though?
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>>98350265
It's still retarded, Borg Queen fits much better, especially with that art.
>gets grafted onto a body
>is a leader character in a faction obsessed with assimilating and bioengineering all other life
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>>98350335
I know. I'm just saying that they want to sell packs, so they're hoping the number of people who care are a minority compared to the number of fags going "zOMG $100+ card REPRINTED!"
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>>98350271
Aren't Golems always humanoids?? Iirc constructs are everything that ain't looking like a human.
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>>98349521
i just realized that there have been so many UB "mono black artifact creature tribal" cards since w40k
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>>98350323
A price I am willing to pay to have a clear board for my vehicle/spacecraft armada to do whatever the fuck it wants.
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>>98350297
>>98350318
>>98350322
Mad + LARP + Nogames
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>>98350355
it's not about their shape but the idea that golems are purely magical animated beings right from the jewish lore they were taken from
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>>98350369
True, but what I am getting at is that constructs also aren't a half point between technology and magic, at least not always, look at the Zendikar Hedron constructs for example.
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98350274
The real "christmasland" is that we have jannies in each general to get rid of nogame shitposters like you.
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>>98350303
Reality Fracture is also getting the 5 starter commander decks but yeah I agree that Trek getting 4 real decks is absurd
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Brewed this over the last few days and will bring it to a tournament this weekend
https://moxfield.com/decks/sm5eJWT01U-qmiTg6YKaMQ
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>>98350388
Hey, you seem to be new to 4chan! The way you reply is like this! >>98350274
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>>98350396
Holy fucking slop

Is this what cedh players shuffle up all day??
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>>98350388
Timmy fucking FUMING that he's being told to run protection instead of the 30th fucking dinosaur that does nothing.
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>>98350386
Construct is a catch-all creature type used for artificial life forms powered by mechanical means as per mtgwiki, those hedron constructs aren't the same as the magical hedrons ugin created to seal the eldrazi
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>>98350348
Well, at least it's not a blunder on the level of Etali and Regisaur reskins, but still, it's gonna know at my OCD knowing there was a better choice of a character for the card.
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>>98350404
Saying slop, is slop.
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How many "damage can't be prevented" effects do you run? I'm building a mono red deck around burn and I'm planning out how much "just in case" kind of effects may be needed along with actual burn.
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>>98350392
It pisses me off so much. Reality Fracture is supposed to be an in-universe what if set and they can't be arsed to make 3 or 4 precons focusing on what if versions of things that won't have enough space to be covered in the main set.
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>>98350214
...the what now?
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>>98350410
>slopzoomer can't even use commas correctly
Grim
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>>98350418
they're obviously rebooting it anon, the writing has been a mess and i can only hope the faggotry gets retconned along with it
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>>98350426
>if he dies, he dies
>um ackshually!!
lol
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>>98350410
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>>98350362
That was how old magic used to be as well.
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>>98350427
Fuck rebooting, I want the Blind Eternities flushed down the toilet and The Edge becoming THE UNIVERSE of Magic.
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>>98350186
Okay but your entire argument is "always have multiple copies of Teferi's Protection in hand"
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>>98350400
>Linking his own post that several anons btfo
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>>98350442
no my argument is have a reasonable out to boardwipes that destroy your timmy pile and if you still haven't won and your opponents got the resources to gang up on you then them's the breaks bud
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>>98350454
>Yes, I do mean always have Teferi's Protection, and multiple copies. But... uhm... SHUT UP TIMMY!
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This faggot says "timmy" more times than a jeet trying to join in race bants on /pol/. Fitting since he's a poser anyway.
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>>98350455
you sure have multiple reposts of a point that i didn't even say haha
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>>98350454
Timmyanon keeps fuming because his mind physically can't comprehend running something that isn't another dinosaur.
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>>98350433
>he thinks these are the same as saying "saying slop, is slop"
Open the schools
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>>98350426
I did use it correctly.
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>>98350462
The same way you constantly post ESL instead of enganging with a post? Oh no.
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>>98350427
But shitposting aside, they should've ditched this gay ass Jace slop in favor of interplanar conflicts due to Omenpaths.
>tfw Pacific Rim style Ikoria monsters spilling into Kamigawa never ever
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>>98350475
you mean call an ambulance, but not for me
BAZINGA
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>>98350498
in principle there's nothing wrong with Jace (or any John Doe) being made as a protagonist, there's just something horribly wrong going on with wotc that they cannot do the bare minimum for IP management such as
>showing his home town of Vryn (remember THAT?!)
>have the plot revolve around him as mc rather than the same way wotc has been handling mtg where they think it's vistas that sell rather than characters
>shipping him with liliana and other various self insert fanservice
>no solo feats of his own worth noting on a block set, it's all straight to jacetice league
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>>98349500
This is the most interesting card so far, because it seems to be a signpost uncommon. Modal matters is pretty fun design space and really fits in with star-treck
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>>98349291
Ay caramba! No puedes simplemente destruir mis cosas!
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>>98350514
I personally couldn't give less of a fuck about orbiting a certain character, I crave worldbuilding.
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>>98350590
the worldbuilding of every popular ip out there is all about the relationship between characters and any lore can be dumped in a wiki somewhere, if anything they killed off gerrard way too soon
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>>98349424
I swear to god, if the only Spacecraft we get are gonna be 10 different version of The Enterprise...
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Very good, Picard. But...
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>>98350599
That's not worldbuilding, that's drama.
And all the dramafags can fuck off and let me have my worldbuilding kino.
I want to explore worlds, couldn't give less of a shit about people.
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>>98350610
Worldbuilding faggotry is gay and lame
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>>98350610
ok read a book then autist
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>>98350624
no u
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>>98350610
Worldbuilding is nothing without a plot that it services. Even Tolkein knew this.
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>>98350632
Books are dramafag central.
Worldbuilding works best in a visual medium.
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>>98350634
Monster Hunter would like to have a word with you.
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>>98350413
2
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>>98350465
no u

>>98350466
Go away Toskinigger
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>>98350642
Monster Hunter doesn't even have worldbuilding beyond the bare fucking minimum.
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>>98350637
>heaven is good worldbuilding, there's no conflict or drama there!
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>>98350655
It has a shit ton of ecological world building that would put a BBC nature documentary to shame, it just doesn't give much of a shit about hoomans in the setting, well except the ancient civilization.
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>>98350653
run toski in your deck he's indestructible!
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I would like to build a flavorful sci-fi deck. Eldrazi would be cool aliens
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>>98350663
>Ecological worldbuilding
>Look inside
>"The monsters got close to each other and then they started fighting and it's now your problem"
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>>98350662
You're malding because 3+ people called you out on being nogames lol.

You don't actually play EDH, you just shitpost on /tg/. Can't imagine being a bigger loser than someone who needs to pose as a TCG player lmao
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>>98350659
Conflict is good.
But on a personal level it becomes fucking gay. Less about politics, resources, land, ideologies, more about bullshit emotional turmoil.
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>>98350642
NONONONO
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>>98350672
Holy mother of tourism.
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>>98350671
Sorry chud but you can’t use this as a commander. It's against the rules
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>>98350682
>Stories
Anon, don't be fucking disingenuous now, that's not the actual MH I am talking about, but a kiddified spin off for Pokemon Nintendies.
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>>98350701
>D-Doesn't count!
I accept your concession.
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>>98350704
>spin off doesn't count
Yes, who could've guessed??
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>>98350675
the iliad is one of the greatest epics of all time and it all boils down to that wench helen of troy running off with paris
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>>98350642
Sorry anon I don't talk to AAA slop.
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>>98350770
BASED
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>>98350760
B-But where is the worldbuilding? How can I latch onto this without the 4 hour loredump YT video that has no relevance to any part of the story?
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>>98349829
anon is right we need to shitpost about the jumpstart and beginner box common vanilla legends instead
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>>98349830
making him into sagas (he can't actually get lore counters)
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Best Final Fantasy commander for a Summoning/Sagas only deck?
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I’m right where you left me
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>>98350840
TAKE ME
TO THE MAGIC OF THE MOMENT
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>>98350219
if it reenters play before the spell finishes resolving nothing changes, state based actions aren't checked in the middle of a blink effect
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>>98350833
mainset Terra > mainset Yuna > precon Tidus > Rydia
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>>98350219
No, because it leaves and reenters while Ephemerate is resolving, thus priority never has a chance to pass under any circumstance, and therefore SBAs (including losing the game) aren't checked until it's already back on the field. The other anon is incorrect, as an ltb can not be put on the stack mid-resolution of a spell. The ltb becomes queued to be put on the stack, but does not actually get placed on the stack until the spell is completely finished resolving.
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>>98350895
I'm going to need Yuna first for this, she works way better thematically than an esper. Thanks anon, anything else?
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>>98350671
This is impossible as Eldrazi are gay and retarded aliens who canonically get owned by Fireball.
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>>98350699
Rules that came out with Edge of Eternities specifically said that Legendary Spacecraft can be your commander.
A trial run for the Star Trek set so you can run the Enterprise at the helm of the deck instead of having to be Captain Kirk.
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>>98348623
he cute
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My LGS allows custom cards on Saturday and I want them to stop because it's fucking stupid and it's the only day I can go there. Can anyone here design a custom card that doesn't look overpowered but is secretly super cancer?
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>>98350967
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>>98350967
I thought you meant custom art at first but allowing custom text? That's fucking retarded. Hurr durr here's my 0 cost "I win the game" instant that I play on turn 0. let me just mulligan for it 15 times in a row every game
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>>98350946
WRONG chud. Spacecraft cant be your commanders if they dont have a power/toughness. So NO CHUD, Eternity Elevator is the single legendary spacecraft that CANNOT be your commander
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>>98350982
They'll just say no if it's too obvious.
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>>98350913
Get Yenna and other cute enchantress cards for Yuna to lead.
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>>98351030
Ohh nice, thanks
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>>98350979
Every time you post this I get reminded of how we still don't have a great skeleton commander and I get sad
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>>98351038
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Violence won.
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>>98350913
like the other anon said you're basically selesnya enchantress but you also wanna mill and use whatever you can to reanimate stuff, white has a few ways to get enchantments back wholesale but anything that mentions historic also works for sagas
blinking also gets rid of finality counters so you can recycle chapter 1 abilities while dodging removal
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Probably a dumb question, but I didn't see anything on his oracle page about it. Since it has that "as long as it remains in exile" clause, you can cast it without him being on the board, right?
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>>98351071
Correct
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>>98351071
sad robot bros.
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>local gamestores only stocking mahvel and strix precons, others sold out
>mom somehow finds eowyn and terra while on vacay in the US

What are some upgrades I can put on these? Relatively new player here
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>>98351091
>>98351158
>>98351071
>Was told her ability stopped working if she left play
>I was lied to because she flipped farewell
If only any of us had phones
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>>98349545
>>98349673
It's like how Time Lord has to be a two word, non hyphenated creature type. Rights holders fucking things up.
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New rule things that target planeswalkers can target players
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>>98351219
If i exile a player do they have to get up and leave the table
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>>98349082
Bumping this question in hopes of finding cards that are similar to Essence Harvest
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>>98349492
wow, they don't even shock you!
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Looking to step outside the Timmy zone and try some toolboxy aristocrat type gameplay with some combo potential. Is Teysa, Orzhov Scion a solid pick?
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>>98351167
>terra
Make Celes the commander instead lol
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>>98351262
Ghave is my favorite choice for that style. Every game you'll find some new way to combo out. The saproling making and sacrificing alone can fuel all the Blood Artists and similar effects easily every turn. And when your engine is going you can even swing out if you feel like it. He's great.
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went to the LGS and got a pack of aetherdrift because it was the only thing they had other than spiderman marvel and ninja turtles, and I pulled Full Throttle on the very first pack let's fucking go I'm never opening another aetherdrift pack again
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Wish I could open up Final Fantasy booster packs from my lgs like you guys...
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I might be an idiot, but Yawmoth's Will is pretty much strictly better than Life from the Loam, am I right?

I've had my only copy just sitting in my binder and I was going to put it into a shit deck until this dawned on me.
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Can anyone help me? I need a commander that is CMC 6, does nothing the turn it enters, and has no protection.
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>>98351426
Yes. It is. Which is why its RL and never been reprinted, and any other card that does the same thing has a fair bit of extra hoops.
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>>98351426
funnily enough yawgmoth's will was called yawgwin for the longest time until it was finally supplanted by this little thing
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>>98351457
Molecule Man
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>>98351457
Here you go bro
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im changing my shirei to yawgmoth, sadly todays commander has no place for a turn 5 2/2
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>>98351210
Seems like diversity tribal is a theme of the set with the Federation ability word. I don't like how this bloats things and still wish Vulcans could just be Elves, but there's at least a justification, unlike Marvel's shit with Gamma and Kree.
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Hope the star trek set brings a new even cmc clone for gyruda
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they should just bring back yawgmoth and urza
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>>98351738
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>>98351738
How long until we get a Yawgmoth God card?
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>>98351835
At this threat, less than 5 years. They're going to have to bring him back to try and make people care about the story again.
And they'll fuck it out.
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What are your EDH hot takes?

>they should bring back banned as commander
>they should bring back the commander tuck rule
>the only banned cards should be colorless cards that have too much of an unfair impact like Jeweled Lotus, Sundering Titan and Emrakul
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>>98351937
Holy based. I agree with this, but they should also bring back the old legendary rule.
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Why is Picard in Minecraft?
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>>98351937
All staples should be banned rotations.
Doesn't matter how powerful or not people think they are.
This year, Cultivate, Swords, Demonic tutor etc will be banned. So on and so forth. Make people think a little more on how to build a deck instead of the same block of cards going to every deck of those colors.
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>regular pod never wants to play anymore because "muh work"
>LGS has too high of a population for its space so the only way to find an open pod is to get there literally 2 to 4 hours before the event is supposed to start
Honestly might be time to hang my decks up.
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>>98351937
The only change this game needs is banning Green
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>>98351945
Look at him, he's just as confused as you are
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>>98351937
>banning cards as commander is a ripple effect that allows casuals to claim that X commander is broken and gavin will never hear the end of it
>roru rumao
>those three cards are fine as GCs stop being a pussy and stay in your b2 lane where you belong
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>>98351945
>4/4 for 6 with an ability that is outclassed by numerous cheaper mono white creatures released this year
Facepalm.png
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>>98351937
MLD isn't a bad thing and shouldn't be restricted, and I'm tired of listening to people whine about it. If the green player can ramp out 10 fucking lands outta nowhere, I should be able to destroy every one of them
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>>98351937
Brackets should be done away with and WOTC should just come out and say it was a bad idea that didn't work.
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>>98351966
but enough about rule zero
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>>98351976
WOTC invented rule 0? Huh?
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>>98351977
who said anything about wotc inventing it?
rule zero doesn't work simply by the fact that gavin only hesistated in unbanning sundering titan because despite all their contrarianism casuals follow the banlist religiously and wotc finds they are incapable of rule zeroing away their boogeymen LMAO
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>>98351966
Make an alternative that's doesn't result in you lying on a 1-10 scale
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>>98351937
>The hybrid mana rule is the most pointless shit ever and even with the most generous implementation (twobrid, phyrexian mana), the only card that would see meaningful casual play is Dismember, with Probe and Misstep seeing cEDH play. As a result anyone with a strong investment in either outcome is retarded.
>The players are very clearly incapable of regulating their own format because the average player's card evaluation skills are under the floor
>While the format in theory would have been better off with a point system, the average EDH player has demonstrated they're too retarded to use one. The alpha preview of brackets would have been the best implementation.
>Players somehow complain about blue too much (counterspells) and not enough (draw access in format with no aggro)
>The whole banlist could come off tomorrow and nothing would change because the game is already balanced like shit and relies on players already being experts at it to not ruin their own experience
>WotC is far more competent than people give them credit for even though that bar is set at the planet's core (they're somewhere in the mantle)
>UB is routinely proving itself to be the correct choice for the health of the game, both in sales and player count, despite what the online consensus states
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>>98352005
Thanks chatgpt
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>>98352005
>if it's pointless then all the more it should be allowed in principle, banning it only gives it the importance you claim it's not due
>correct
>gavin made his decision and this ship has sailed, it will 5 brackets from now on
>as you said players suck at card evaluation, so no surprise here
>i dunno man, contract from below is busted when every card you ante is fake
>even wotc is correct twice a day
>correct
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>>98351983
>who said anything about wotc inventing it?
Well, you did. Since you implied my post was about rule 0 when I specifically mention WOTC creation.
You tried to be funny but it didn't work.
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>>98352017
Post your hot takes.
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>>98352005
I just wanted to put vexing shusher in my boros decks
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>>98352018
TFW It has been like two years now and i still have not been forced to use brackets like /edhg/ said i would.
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>>98352021
>Brackets should be done away with and WOTC should just come out and say it was a bad idea that didn't work.
the word "created" doesn't appear anywhere, you just got caught being a fool - as casuals tend to do - and you are hella mad about it
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>>98352031
that's because brackets are made for randos at the lgs playing for prizes and you never leave your basement
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>>98352039
Yeah? So what? You wanna kiss and fuck about it?
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>>98351937
My hottest EDH take is probably that Rhystic is highly overrated in B3 where it has to compete for slots with all the other game changers. It's a fantastic card, don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day it's still just a draw engine in a color that has no issues drawing oodles of cards without it.
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>>98352048
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>>98352018
>It should be allowed in principle
I personally agree however after evaluating it I realize that the most meaningful part of the argument is centered on what cards might be printed in the future, which is obviously unknowable. It's the biggest nothingburger ever because people act like it's either the only thing holding storm back from ruining the game, or the main oppressor of honest monored. The reality is it's a nothingburger and will likely remain that way forever because WotC hasn't been putting hybrid cards in the flashy rare/mythic slot even before this became a major issue.
>Contract would be busted, but its existence would not degrade the format any further than its current state, which still relies on everyone in the match not actually giving it 100% towards a win for the game to not be a shitshow
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>>98352039
Yeah you just repeated what I said.
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I had a pretty meme-y Hero Tribal deck from before the Marvel Set came out and I wanna upgrade it with some of the new cards. How would this work?
Do I have to pay life again when copying G'raha's trigger?
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>>98352072
yes just like if you copy invasion dragon abilities you still have to pay
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They didn't let me make 5 copies of etali with him. Why are they so mean? Why won't they let me do the thing?
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>>98352091
Do I copy it with X=0 or does it get copied with whatever X being the cost of what originally triggered it?
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>>98352094
You get 5 Etali etbs which is the only part that matters.
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>>98352099
X is whatever the noncreature spell is and the copy will just ask you if you want to pay again
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EDH was supposed to be about endless midrange value pile durdling with no cards ever producing value swings
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>>98352039
>You're lying ;-;
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>>98352058
were contract from below be unbanned it would call into question everyone who's using proxies, so in a way i'd like it even if it would skew cedh even more into naus necro turbo
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>>98352102
I don't if they kill him at instant speed before I can.
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>>98349533
>Q is a creature type
get ready for the new eldrazi
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>>98352132
Take my cards with boobies on them. I'll make more.
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>>98351953
Huh? Aren't there already people playing by the time you get there even if it's early? Where I go tables are already open and you can setup to play whenever the moment you get there even if it's an hour or two before it is supposed to start.
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>>98352157
What tables? They are all taken by 5 pm. All 15 of them.
Today I saw 0 open pods and 0 open space to form a new pod. So I just left.
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Milking your opponent isn’t a real thing anymore. anyone can play the handful of cards that completely shut you down.
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>>98352157
Most people are not free before 5 pm on a weekday.
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Bro what the FUCK?? Why didn't they use this sorta mechanic for phyrexians???
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which one should I build
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>>98352257
Because the Phyrexians are rip offs and don't deserve it.
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>>98352108
I remember anon. Battlecruiser games were great fun.
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>>98352108
So true, that's why the format began with Time Walk and Ancestral Recall legal.
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>>98352261
Kraven. He's cooler. The power he can build just through regular play is great and keeps you stocked up on cards consistently.
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>>98352257
I guess Phyrexians just suck. Honestly I have no clue. It's a decent enough representation of what they do. Fuck, it could have also just been a good take on skeleton tribal as well. I hope this gets reworked into a keyword or something later.
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>>98352476
Too slow, I'm building both.
Now I need to look for some secret tech.
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>>98352518
Hell, that's the better way to do it anyway. Actually try them out and see how you like them. Good luck anon.
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>>98352257
Because the design team is creatively bankrupt and only UB advisors have good ideas anymore.
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>>98352395
NTA but they don't have to be a thing of the past anon, just embrace the bracket 2
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>>98352261
Kraven but reskin him as Chevill.
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>>98348531
>Ever played in a pod where you were the police (aka the control deck)? How did it go?
My pet deck is a control deck. It goes fine.
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>>98352608
If you have it on Mox, would you be wiling to link it? I have been wanting to dip my toes into something more control focused
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>>98352622
I didn't say it was necessarily good.

https://moxfield.com/decks/aSxusl9nnU2_3u92uw9fOw
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>>98351937
Genuinely why do you want tuck back though? Is it just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole? Decks that rely on their commander are already at a massive, massive disadvantage in 2026 EDH, even in the most casual tables, why fuck them over even further?
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>>98352642
I'm a bracket 2-3 enjoyer only anon, I much prefer fun and theme over decks being a sleek super refined machine. I just want to see sort of how things are laid out in a control focused kind of gameplan, if that makes sense
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>>98352680
Some people just want to watch the world burn
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>>98352680
He lost to a Tifa Voltron deck last week please understand
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>>98352680
what's the matter? aren't we supposed to always have the protection spell?
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>>98352848
Bro Elk and his friends said pure protection spells are bad.
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>>98352877
no, if I keep using 1 mana spells to their 3 mana tuck removal I will win
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what's the best color for commanders plate other than colorless? green?
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>>98348531
>TQ
well, I have 2 decks that I consider to be my most "controlling", one which is Hylda (tap opponents' creatures to gain rewards) and the other is Anafenza, Foremost somethingssomething, which is green, white and black!
The first is just kinda generic, people don't like having their things tapped so they generally stay clear of making me an enemy, but going wide means I can't keep up with tapping, so I usually lose lategame to those kinds of decks. Kind of fun for everyone, unless you're going voltron against me.

The other deck is one of my spiteful concoctions - after playing against one pod too many with 2-3 graveyard players I looked up which commander is the best at exiling things, and found that Anafenza was perfect. (She says "when a creature enters an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead" lmao)
So I filled the deck with creatures that exile, or remove in different ways, and tons upon tons of exiling removal. In worst case, you have an effect in play that says "If something dies, exile it" and then play a boardwipe that destructs, and everything is gone. If there are only 1-2 graveyard players the deck does fine, but if there are 3 of them they instantly gang up on me and kill me first, not that I mind.
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>>98349369
>character I always found the hottest
>playstyle I love
Yeah, she's going in all of my decks, and I will tap her every chance I get.
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Who are some fun "archenemy" commanders? I'll reskin them as Luca Blight and play up the villain role for the table
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Red Alert! Red Alert! Proceed to the next thread at Warp 9 Ensign!

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>>98349542
Literally called it in this general last week. :^)



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