/tg/'s thoughts on Empire of the Petal Throne?
No one has ever played it
>>98374304Kender characters will die within the first couple minutes.So it's good.
>>98374304tg isn't about games. I know the name is misleading but this board is about worldbuilding, setting trope talk and masturbation. Games are limiting, elitist and extremely chuddy to take part in for us worldforgers and storycrafters.
>>98374635Empire of the petal throne is peak no games world building autism though. There's like a whole book that's just about various demons that exist in the setting. Also the creator got cancelled for secretly being a Nazi so we can argue about that.
>>98374693It's a game and therefore off topic, gamechud.
>>98374304I thought the lore was fascinating, though I've never run the game personally.
>>98374304I read Serpent Walk.It was aight, but I was sold it on the promise of it being Chuddy as fuck and the MC ends up with a Hindu wife in the prologue.I guess MAR Barker was a Muttoid but still, it's funny that the dreadful "Nazi Fiction" wasn't even that racist.Except against Jews, I think, but it's been a while.Tekumel looks cool.I have little idea about the human allied and enemy races Tsolyani culture, but I dig the pocket dimension, and duty based morality thing.
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>>98374635>I know the name is misleading but this board is about worldbuilding, setting trope talk and masturbation. That's literally Petal Throne's and Tekumel's claim to the fame and example of worldbuilding being a part of the hobby since the very beginning. >Games are limiting, elitist and extremely chuddy to take part in for us worldforgers and storycrafters.It was made by a literal neonazi so the culture war tranny-coating angle doesnt work either
>>98374762>it's funny that the dreadful "Nazi Fiction" wasn't even that racist.>Except against JewsIt was published by a neonazi outlet what more do you want faggotAlso the protagonist still lets his educated indian wife die and gets with a white aryan literal prostitute Barker still cared more about haring jews than anything else, but it's from an old era of rightoid skinhead shit where they didn't really hate muslims that much so he was fine to speak for their groups
>>98374762>I guess MAR Barker was a MuttoidWhile naturally any yanquí is a mutt by nature, Phil Barker appears to have been pretty solidly Anglo-German. He was just a pakiboo of all things, the "MAR" stands for Muhammad Abd ar-Rahman because he converted to Islam. It even seems like the Jew hate was an effort to quranmaxx more than anything.
>>98375260>Anglo-German>x-yMutt
>>98375232Oh shut the fuck up. https://fabledlands.blogspot.com/2022/03/was-professor-m-r-barker-nazi.html
>>98374304I know some literal boomers who played it back in the day. They don't remember much about the game itself but they do fondly remember the worldbuilding autism. I've read Barker's first two Tekumel novels myself, The Man of Gold and Flamesong. The Man of Gold was readable but nothing special. Flamesong surprisingly was pretty good. I heard somewhere that Barker read a bunch of Jack Vance stories after writing his first novel in an effort to beef up his storytelling skills, and if that's true it worked.
>>98375232I don't remember it ending like that.I actually remember it ending in India with the protagonist all wifed up with the Hindu wench.It HAS been a while mind.>>98375232Being a Pakiboo places you pretty solidly in the camp of "Honourary Muttoid", but then, Enoch Powell was fluent enough in Urdu to discuss poetry.On a certain level, it's the duty of a colonial administrator to understand the governed people, but "going native" is a bit much.
>>98374304Bump for interest.
>>98374304Literally havent heard of it before now, is it an old od&d variant? I googled it and not much was clarified, you got a pdf or something?
>>98378426It's a vaguely AD&D adjacent game set in a pocket dimension with an extremely strict hierarchical theocracy where peoples' socially acceptable morals vary by what god they publicly worship. There are light sci-fi elements but all through a lens of forgotten mysticism, and all of the nonhuman species are bizarre aliens that don't have a humanoid psychology or body plan. Overall, it's steeped in violence and religiosity under heavy meso-american aesthetics. Also after his death it turned out the creator wrote a neo-nazi novel under a pseudonym at one point but he was a devout muslim who married an arab woman.
>>98378426>is it an old od&d variant?Yes, it is; it's got a credible claim to being the second RPG ever published. Besides his unfortunate AD&D gaffe, Anon got the rest right, though; it is a "secret sci-fi" fantasy setting with bizarre Mesoamerican-ancient Hindu aesthetics and the nonhumans (indigenous to the planet, unlike the humans) are all partially or wholly radially symmetric due to the vagaries of evolution.
>>98378495Tékumel was first and foremost a playground for Phil's conlangs. Apparently he still called himself Phil after his conversion, I mean who wouldn't, I can't get through two syllables of Mohammad without spitting. Like Stafford's Glorantha, he tried making a board game first. When D&D 3bb came out, he adapted it and started playing sessions in it, some of which included Arneson. When Gygax learned about it, TSR published it as well.
The guy was a literal nazi. I won't be buying for that reason. Sorry.
>>98375402The Angles were Germanic moron
>>98381591Same reason I don't use the toilet. I don't want to be like that scumbag Hitler, who was known to poo daily
>>98381591Oh don't worry.His estate has been usurped by a bunch of squalling leftoids who want to denounce the man, but claim his work.You'll fit in fine with those mobbing scavengers.
