Work in Progress, "Part of All The Fuck Ups Is, The Will To Make A Change" edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny>Previous threads:>>98367269>>98353835>>98338141 >>98326342
Thank you for the emergency bake, johnny-kun.
Couple of KDM WIPs
asking again in new thread before i do something sillyso, i want to make fences like pic rel from scratch, i need a method to do them that is easy, repeatable and consistent, the hardest part is the lance points, any ideas?no casting, no buying a thousand secondhand lances
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>>98382555From a quick google, I found out you can buy scale spears made out of wire, I think these would make a good source for the bars. For the cross beam bits, you could get some strips of plasticard and drill holes at even intervals, though this might be a pain in the ass.
>>98382576How are they measuring spear length in milliliters?
>>98382576>20>$15that's quite expensive and they look meh, they also make plastic ones but still ithey are fairly expensive, at that price it would be better to buy actual fencesi have seen lance shaped cocktail sticks too but can't source them in the ue for a reasonable price
an aggressor
>>98382591Keep in mind that price is in AUDThere are other companies manufacturing these, army painter makes 50mm 40 packs for cheaper than that other one.
>>98382576>>98382591you could probably make something similar from scratch by hammering/flattening the end of some stiff metal wire and cutting the flatted tip into shape
>>98382607yeah warlord makes them too>https://eu.warlordgames.com/products/50mm-metal-spears-50it's not a bad idea but i'm not sold on it (yet), those would also be easy to make cheaper at home but i don't quite like the look (and they are fucking dangerous)
>>98382617>and they are fucking dangerousthe pictures do make them look particularly poky
>>98382623
>>98382617the 40mm spears are less than half the price of the 50mm ones for some reason https://us.warlordgames.com/products/40mm-metal-javelins-50
>>98382629Imagine running into an opponent using these for their intended purpose. Their lines of spearmen looking like walls of knives.
just paimpt miniturs
>>98382495Almost done with a generic sword brother/officer/whatever kitbash. Left arm is magnetized as I plan to also build him a banner-holding arm to convert him into some sort of chapter or crusader ancient if ever needed.>>98382604Did your primer or some other basecoat go on a bit thicker than usual? It looks like some details are gunked up, they normally look okay on your models
>>98382646nice minis manit is a little funny seeing 40k skulls on fantasy minis though lol
>>98382555sculpt each one individually out of putty
>>98382678I built these on a whim, kind of like little helpers or summons for the big guys. Also usable as generic fantasy characters with the skull representing their role.>crowfast assassin guy>don't even knowone handed weapon + shield>daemonmagick user>orktwo handed weapon brute>taushooty guy
>>98382683that is not consistent at all, and it's a lot of work
Painting traitors. About ready for washes.>>98382555I assume there are pre-made fences for rail models. If you want individual spears, look for packs of Cocktail Spears.
>>98382646what bodies are those?
Are there any benefits to using a synthetic over sable? Like certain scenarios. Or another kind of brush other than sable for doing things?
>>98382732Frostgrave soldiers
>>98382825Yes, by using synthetics you're not wearing out your sables. So use synthetics as workhorses and save your sables for detail work.
>>98382825The benefit is that they're cheaper, and you don't care about destroying them. You can use them for metallics, texture pastes, glue, or anything, and you won't feel bad about destroying your nice brushes.
>>98382825they are cheap so you can abuse them, stippling drybrushing, varnish, glue...
>>98382827Ah, they were familiar. Nice job.
Question for the class. What's the best size bead/ball to use for nipples at the 28/32mm scale? I'm sick of try to sculpt them.
>>98382902i would sculpt one and make a stamp mold
Does anyone have any book like pic related from ionic? Are they any good? I've seen it mentioned online
>>98382902go to you local craft/bead store with your model and do some test fitting on location
>>98382495Thanks for setting up us a new thread. It was late and I was tired.Might have tacos again for dinner. It is Tuesday, after all!
>>98382958You can find that and much more on youtube nowadays. Seeing a technique in action is more useful imo.
>>98382958I have a book like that, but it's not about tanks and it's not published by Ionic.WVVoU01HTklUVFpNZVRsMFdsZGthRXh0TlRaTU1scDJZa2RTYkdOcE9IcGxiV2hUWVRGR1RGZHBUbTVPYlRWUlRqSlNibFpJWkhOU01FcGFVa2MxY1ZaNlFtWlJNa1p1
nobody liked the khorne plow so how about these transferswhite transfer on the front is a long white chaos star
Looking at the highlights it's impossible to separate the fact that a paintbrush painted it. Tough
>>98382726Malal cultists?
>>98383020what red is that?
Today I continued the sculpting process. The shields are not glued yet, I just used blue tac to get an impression on how it would look like as armour. I worry it's a bit too thick, but that maybe because I spend so much time looking at these from a close distance.Does green stuff cure faster in cold than in room temperature?
>>98383044evil sunz scarlet i think its the new blood red
>>98383063>Does green stuff cure faster in cold than in room temperature?Slower, actually.
>>98383063are they the stands or the users?
>>98383124I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly. But my intention was to make these shields look like armour plates bolted on their buttocks.
>>98382726>>98383041Gigabased
How do I stop this from happening?
>>98383041Indeed.
>>98383173Brush care will help but It is inevitable that your synthetics will end up curling like this. Best you can do is either buy a new one if it gets too bad, or become a master of the hook.
>>98383193happens to my sables too tho
>>98383199stop stabbing your brush into the minis then
Done with the grassy board. What should I do next?
>>98383199You've had them generically tested?Just because the label says they are, doesn't make it so. Consider that they're mostly made in china and contemplate manufacturing practices of that nation.
>>98383215they're artis opus so fairly confident...
>>98383124>>98383146>I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly.This must be the work of an enemy Stand!
>>98383000I don't know what to do with that code.
Interesting new developments over at my place!So here's the deal:>bought and build a bunch of cool stuff lately>protagonists of this post: the Tamiya Sturmtiger and a bootleg Zaku 2>the bootleg Zaku came with water decals, but those are kinda low quality and refuse to stick to anything that is not a straight surface>virtually unusable on the Zaku 2>decide to use them on the Sturmtiger instead as tank camouflageBe honest and tell me how it looks! I am not planning to win any tournaments, but would you say it is an upgrade to the "clean" look it has by default and do you recognize it as camouflage. Does it look too "sticker-y"?Here is the before
>>98383219rosemary & co makes their brushes, AO is just a name for a middleman, Rosemary gets materials from china then assembles them in england.
>>98383261And here is the after
>>98383243just keep running itlike 4 decodes in to work
>>98383269looks like it was cartoonishly ran over by a car and left with a bunch of tire marks all over
>>98383269paint?
>>98383243>I don't know what to do with that code.No one must know of the Emperor's aid to the Baron.
another ruin section
>>98383289>You have tasted the Janny's Gom Jabbar!
>>98383243nintendo, that is all the hint i ever got, good luck
>>98383276>>98383289>>98383305Fine, keep your secrets.
>>98383321Oof, imagine being gatekept by this weak of a gate.The one anon even spelled it out for you step by step!
>>98383302i still like emdid you figure out how to cast them
>>98383329"Keep running it" and "Nintendo" tell me nothing.
>>98382256>How'd you make the nipples, anon? Did you sculpt them, or did you push a tiny bead in there and shape around it?It's a tiny bead pressed in to the milliput. When the milliput dries I add a bit of glue around it.
>>98383341looks fantastic, anon
>>98383341i dont like the models but i like what you did to them and how they rankbtw what game are these mainly for
>>98383338Mmhmm, lazy.
>>98383352No, just no idea what to even do with that information.
>>98383338too retarded to live. zoomers are doomed>>98383146it was a dumb joke, youre shields look great as butt plates. not too thick at all. great work on the fur >>98383212snowy ice field
>>98383262And I wonder how willing Rosemary & co are to provide a competitor with their higher quality product, eh?that being said NONE of the brush manufacturers are transparent about their processes and none have ever said they genetically test their chinese sable, so it's very likely you've got other weasel species and even synthetics mixed in and these companies just figure "meh, good enough" because their names make them sales and no one else is doing any different so the quality is relative.you might get better results buying the most expensive brushes available, but trace the corporate relationships and do so from the ones actually making the brushes, don't go for the tertiary entities like artis opus who are just paying to have their name stamped on the birch.
>>98383358yes, whereas one click here ITT could change that. which shows you are lazy.I didn't even have it handed to me like you just did, I literally just got "nintendo" and then spent 15 minutes figuring it out online from that hint accompanied by the fact that I was trying to decode a string.
>>98383212What is the purpose of these?
>>98383343danke>>98383350Warhammer Fantasy. They're inspired by the older fiends of Slaanesh design:https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/008/920/379/large/igor-sid-23-fiend-of-slaanesh.jpg?1516110890
>>98383381https://mega.nz/folder/3zhRkQKZ#g6nP7dgTwlGBYDnjW0_CagFuck you too.
>>98383412>Warhammer Fantasy. They're inspired by the older fiends of Slaanesh design:I know you gotta have that image bookmarked to prove you aren't a coomer
Should I paypig for a bunch of epic basing stl's? They have a lot of nice plants I could use for jungle bases...
Current WIP.Fairly happy with the skin. Next is to shade and highlight the gold and highlight the blue. Then it’s time to fuck about with gems, not sure how many I’ll do as gems vs just leaving gold or silver.
>>98383421No, fuck you, the gate is there for a reason asshole, the key was spelled out, we don't want or need mouthbreathers in.
>>98383330not yet, i want to have several ready before i get casting supplies
>>98383341Nice work on the custom fiends, anon. I'm guessing the beads are just some 0.3/0.5mm diameter things you grabbed from a craft store or something?>>98382915Good idea, in general, but probably not the most efficient or effective method for something like this.
>>98383459You thought insults wouldn't result in spite? You could have just told me, now you'll have to change your dumb code.
>>98383469>not the most efficient or effective method for something like this.>sculpt smooth tit>let it cure>put putty ball in the center>stamp nipple>cut excessthe theory is sound
>>98383020Very neat and old hammer coded - I approve
>>98383000Ive never seen a code used like this. But I like it.
>>98383510It works better when the assholes don't turn around and circumvent it for everyone else.Then people wonder why more and more nothing gets shared here
both yall niggas are fucking dumb anyways, these books are readily available at all the other places you'd generally pirate books at
>>98383422kek. You walk a fine line when you collect Slaanesh. For what it's worth the official models have nipples too but I don't like the seahorse belly dancer look. I grew up with the Diaz daemonette aesthetic.>>98383469Thanks. The bottle says "Artsfartsy Crafts Silver Metallic Glass Microbeads" but doesn't say the exact size. I'd say they're too large for human-sized nipples but they work on monsters.
>>98383510>Ive never seen a code used like this.Many boards here on 4chan are encoding things like URLs to keep them from being harvested and/or reported. Is it one person? A group of people? A bot or automated script? Nobody knows for sure is behind it, but starting about three years ago, naked URLs started getting flagged for takedowns and removals. Posting content to platforms like gofile.io, where a link only stays active for about a week-and-a-half, or setting up torrents with magnets are only so effective for the wider community.
>>98383541Then you're retarded for asking, aren't you?
>>98383212How do you do these? Just buy a picture frame and put something in it on which you build on?
>>98383563See, this guy can post a proper explanation instead of jerking off over his secret club.
how about you post some minis instead, you fucking cretins
Almost finished Thunderbolt ready to take the field
>>98383595You couldn't figure it out? Are you literally a nigger?
>>98383601Like you?
>>98382991SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE BAKES?!
>>98383359Good idea but I don't have any snow based minis. My autism won't allow it.>>98383409Playing games. Putting them on the wall when I'm not playing games.>>98383593That's the gist. I put slices of XPS in first as a foundation and go from there.
>>98383652Unlike you, I don't live in my childhood. "Nintendo" doesn't make me think of "64".
>>98382825Use them as workhorse brushes for basecoats, when they get frayed they become a wash/stipple/drybrush brush, get even more gnarly they become a basing/glue brush. For things like base coating a size 2 or 4 $3 white taklon brush will last for a few dozen models at least before the tip starts to curl too much, the smaller brushes is where the curling tip is more noticeable and problematic.
>>98383488It works if you're looking for near identical breasts on models that are fairly similar poses. It runs in problems the minute you want different sizes or additional accessories/clothing, or if you're dealing with significantly different poses.>>98383549 Damn, if you had the spike ball lodged in the breast you'd have a really solid throwback to old forge world keeper of secrets model. Excellent work.
>>98383685Doesnt need to dumbass, try using a search engine and thinking for yourself, i bet you wear velcro shoes
>>98383712>just search this random string of code, that'll work
>>98383719Wow, you really are
>>98383676>Playing games.What game? Genuinely interested as a space conscious solution.
>>98383739Old ass RPG/Tabletop hybrid called Quest and Forbidden Psalm.There's also Greathelm as a more recent example but I haven't played it.
>>98383709Thanks, man. That is the old FW model. I gave her six flayed faced instead of the spikes. Felt more Hellraiser-like.
>>98383745Come to think of it, 1490 Doom has a rather small board. I don't give two fucks if it's supposed to be round lmao.(another game I haven't played though)
>>98382495Doing some test models for Oathmark. I really wanted an excuse to make those victrix gauls/barbarians for a game and I dont think Im going to get my army painted in time for the new rules being released.
Reposting my current Baneblade, he's going to be part of a diorama.
good sculpting but this smug face is looking at me
>>98383472Code is there to prevent automated bots from marking links for deletion. I guess you are just an asshole who don't care about anyone or anything else than yourself, plus perfectly capable of doing something out of spite but some people are above that.
>>98383961Yeah, anon who shared only learned not to next time =/
>>98382114it looks like an ice sword. what are force swords supposed to look like? I thought they were supposed to look electric.>>98382141if people would have admitted it's just a stylistic choice and isn't meant to look realistic I would have left it at that. instead everyone brings out the hobby science and makes contradictory statements like that you're supposed to paint the miniature as if it wasn't being lit by your desk lamp, but also that you can hold the mini up to your desk lamp to reference where to paint the shadows.>>98383961if you're trying to stop automated bots then saying what decoding method you are supposed to use isn't going to make it any easier for the bot since all it can do is scrape urls.
>>98383961I get insults and elitism, you get spite. If that makes me the asshole, so be it.
calling this guy done - maybe ill come back to it to add more freehand but idk i have the rest of the box to get through - base is still drying
Da head - i gotta get an actual camera or smth for this, whenever i send pictures to my friends they look 50x worse than in person
>>98384050>If that makes me the assholeI'm glad we can all reach a consensus.
>>98384117I like the mini but the basing looks like straight ass ngl
>>98384193Doesn't mean you're not a cunt.
>>98384026bots aren't operating alone even IF they are involved, it is only one of the possibilities, there is also the possibility that GW legal temps are involved or the entirety of the deal, in which case their contextual incompetence is at play and we need to be vague and rely on intelligence of those being shared with, even the posted step-by-step explanation which requires a click to get at are a step too far in opening the gate, one anon here has already stated that nothing more than the term nintendo combined with simple contextual awareness was enough to independently discover the process.
>>98382958Get AK FAQ books, they are that but better. You can find them on zlib (.sk, be wary of fakes) for free.
>>98384261It was explained what the text string was, how to decode, and why it was needed. You decided to be an obtuse faggot.
>>98384121phone camera is fine, you just need to make photography a secondary hobby or accept mediocrity.
>>98384278if it's easy enough for anyone actually looking for it to figure out then a gw shill can figure it out too. if a gw shill can't figure it out then how is anyone else supposed to?
>>98384320Yeah, after I figured it out.
the base is straight up convenient store potato mash and there is even gravy involvedor worse even an american and it was some joke about fast food
>>98382555Use air hardening clay for the cross beams and tips, spears like >>98382576 for the rest or wooden skewers.
GREYSCALE THUMBS FINGERING YOUR EYEBALLSLICK THE SOUL OFF YOUR BRISTLES
>>98384370you assume much about corporate drone intelligence.
curse that extension that detects samefagging
>>98384411>I figured it outYeah which says that all your bitching and moaning was just an excuse for what anon already said, you were just being a lazy cunt.
>>98384673say what?
>>98382576these look like blowgun darts with the plastic fletching removed, I bet that's significantly cheaper. >>98382561I posted these in the KDM thread, thinking about doing the faces white, but I'm not sure what to do with the smoke and slime on them.
I just could not for the life of me get proper lighting and focus on these so whatever.Finished with my green guys, 2 specific models are missing, but I wouldn't want to buy a whole box for just those.Also here is to thank the anon from an ealier /ss/, some of these guys are from there. I will start with my dark eldar and that raider soon too.
>>98383063It cures faster the warmer it is. You are gonna put the tits on next, right?
>>98384701
>>98384701...and you just fucked anyone else from getting anything shared ITT again, faggot.
>>98384694is that grass table just green spraypaint on a welcome mat because it looks really nice
>>98384710it's this fake grass mat thing, not exactly a welcome mat, but yeah I did paint on it with although with a brush
>>98384751care to share what mat it is and what kind of paint did you use because that looks awesomei also like the weird goblins you have going on there
>>98384792sure>mat sure https://www.praktiker.hu/kert/kertepites/mufu/mufu-szonyeg-100x200cm/p/335344>painthttps://muveszellato.com/pentart-matt-akrilfestek-50-ml-zoldhttps://muveszellato.com/pentart-matt-akrilfestek-50-ml-sotet-homokI doubt those help much, but it's all basic hobby/DIY store stuff>weird goblinsthe Quar, I like them a lot too
>>98384705No, I didn't. If you give a proper explanation like Fallout anon did, there's no issue. If you sit there gloating with an "I know something you don't know" attitude, you can suck it.
>>98383289>>98383563I hope you now realize that anyone stupid enough to need this much handholding can't even properly play these games, right?
Help me anons, I feel like I've reached the limit of my current ability and I'm not sure where to focus my efforts on improving. Not saying that my painting is by any means amazing, but I just don't know what to do to get better.Picrel is my best paintjob so far, any constructive criticism is appreciated
>>98385010Blending should be smoother. The (off)white paint should be applied thinner and smoother, and lacks highlights, so does the sights. The highlights on the rifle are sloppy. You can definitely make them neater. The bronze of the statue could use a bit more contrast and wear and tear. The rifle, too, a bit of weathering is always good. Also, a little bit of autism (feel free to ignore), but all metal can makes no sense. Not only it would reflect light, it would also corrode.
>>98385010try using different tools like enamel paints or an airbrush. look at other disciplines like garage kits or gundams and see if you can learn anything new.
Has anybody ever used "Disposable eyeliner brushes" for making very thin lines on 28mm minis? How are they and how do I maximize mileage out of them?>https://www.amazon.ca/Disposable-eyeliner-Eyeliner-Brushes-Applicator/dp/B096K1MFL7?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A1X0N246DB265CI've heard of scriptliner and liner and rigger brushes but could never find any in bulk sales of the same sizes on aliexpress or temu somehow.I'm trying to get brushes that will easily create comically thin lines for 28mm scale miniature detailing for freehanded stuff. Is there anything I can do to "force" my current bulk round tipped brushes to have comically pointy tips if a deal can't be found?
>>98383448leave the base like that and put a brush in his hand
>>98385047Thanks anon, I have actually recently experimented with mixing a small amount of white ink in with white paint and it's made it so much smoother, definitely something I'll experiment with.Do you have any good tutorials etc on weathering? That's probably a good thing for me to look at.And yeah, the can is impractical, but aesthetically pleasing to me. Appreciate the advice!>>98385089Thanks anon, I do have an airbrush but I just use it for priming, base coat, and varnishing. Currently I typically do 3 passes of the base coat, going from darker to lighter from bottom to top of the mini. Are there any particular airbrushing techniques worth learning?
How does one apply a wash to a model without making the base coat look blotchy and brown? is there a way to change the surface tension so everything gets pulled into the recesses, leaving the surface basically clean?
>>98385202You have to premoisten the figure with just water, wait until almost dry where it feels cool to the touch but no water can be seen. Embs calls this water priming. After this apply the wash with a moist brush, no heavy drops of water, and it will suck the paint into recess as ot continues to dry but you still must painr into the recess and rotate the model using gravity to your advantage as it dries. Working on small sections at a time but water priming over an arwa larger than you will need to encourage gentle bleeding and sift edges to prevent splotches and using the brush to break up any hard wdges that begin to form before it dries adding watwr to the brush as needed to fade the edges.
>>98385201>white inkI've never tried it with white, but it works well for yellow. The trouble is that there's no binder or medium so it comes off easily. You can either mix it with a medium (or paint like you're doing), or just airbrush straight ink and then varnish it right away.
>>98385202instead of slopping it on everywhere try only putting it where you want it and not where you don't. you can also stop using acrylic washes so you can easily wipe it off if it gets where you don't want it.
My birf day present, my precious.
I dropped my DIY miniature painting handle. The model wasn't damaged but now I want rubber grip tape to add to my painting handle for miniature painting.What textured pattern is best for comfort and grip? I remembered how some vidya game controllers sell rubber paddings for better grip so I'm not sure if those textures are the best. My searching also resulted in gun grip rubber tape and gaffer's tape for my painting handles. I'm not sure what "rubber pattern" is best but I'm hoping someone here has already tried.>>98385201>>98385259Does it really matter what white ink is being used here? I lean for Daler Rowney as their inks seem to have more coverage and their jars are shaped to be harder to accidentally knock over I think.I learn to Liquitex for wash making as they have less coverage. I'm not sure if Daler Rowney or Liquitex inks are better or worse for using as easy glazes.
>>98385335Very nice anon!When you paint a model can you get back to us on the quality of the Coat D'arms paints? I've had an interest in those for a while. Their metallics primarily but also the inks which I haven't found artist acrylic ink equivalents to yet.
>>98385352NTA, but I have been using the CDA range for a few years now in my collection. The paint quality ranges from decent, if needing 2-3 coats(like vampire red and deadly nightshade) to good coverage in 1-2 coats(the greens, most blues, and browns I have). As for the metallics those are great, solid coverage and pigmentation, absolutely love these.
>>98385412>As for the metallics those are great, solid coverage and pigmentation, absolutely love these.Thanks anon!>30+ year old metallic paints recipe still holding up to modern standardsI'm amazed really. I'll see if a Canadian vendor has some metals and inks to pick up.
Done some work on my tracked Impulsor. It's still very raw, but it's shaping up. There's a lot more plasticard scratchbuilding than expected, as the problem with the GW kit is that you basically get a quarter of a vehicle - no bottom half because it's supposed to be hovering, and no backside because it's an open top. The other challenge is keeping the interior available for painting while building everything. And finally, making sure all hatches (both on top and the ramp in the back) are freely poseable, so that the interior can be checked out once the vehicle is put together. It's pretty fun so far. Though I will definitely be printing the workable tracks, as the ones that you get with the kit are shit.
>>98384694 >>98384871So freaking awesome >>98385010Hmm, mire color variation on the figure, like changing the color temperature on the faces which face one side to add some red light or orange or punk or salmon etc, the white gun should have one side darker than the others with a different color temperature, just stuff like that, really good overall though
>>98385352 >>98385412I too already have plenty of coat darms paints, almost every color they offer, they are excellent but these are new orders since blackhat sold to essex but they said they weren't changing anything so I'm assuming they are like the others I've bought before. If not I'll let you know.
