Why are Dune Coat of Arms so simplified? They look like corporate logos.
Probably because the Houses act like corporations, including the functional dethroning of the Empreror in the first book being the absorption of all of his stock holdings in the CHOAM company which had monopolistic control over all commerce.
Not sure what you mean anon.
Herbert never went into any real detail there, and what detail he did go into (like house Harkonnen's colours being blue and orange) is frequently ignored. So the coat of arms of Dune aren't really detailed, or simplified, or anything. Note how the coat of arms you're showing is drastically different form how it's portrayed in the recent movies, which in turn is radically different from that recent game, which in turn...So the question should be why did the specific artist behind the coat of arms you're thinking of draw them so simplified, and to find the answer to that one... you'll just have to ask the artist.
Pretty much the only thing that's stayed consistent between every version is House Atreides having a hawk as their symbol. The Harkonnens were originally supposed to have a griffin, then it was a bull and in the current movies it's some weird pointy thing, which I guess is supposed to be a stylized depiction of their weird monochrome sun.
>>98395835worldbuilding is traditional games
>>98394931In irl heraldry the written description of the Coat of Arms is the important part, the visual depiction can vary wildly in style so long as it follows the blazon.
>>98397845No. Playing traditional games is traditional games, nogames.
>>98397845How did the coat of arms of dune and their simplicity effect your last session? Be detailed and specific, post your character sheet and/or campaign record.
>>98398057>*Bring something up*>*Has to act like someone question something in a game/lore/etc is meaningless. Yet never said this when the queers bitch and whine for more gay shit in the TTRPG.*
>>98395024Ok, i'll do that.
>>98394931Which game?
>>98395456if i can recall the sun is supposed to be infrared and im guessing the daytime scenes on giedi prime in the film were supposed to be through some sort of monochrome night vision, or maybe the harkonnens eyesight adapted in monochrome to the ir(?)
>>98402418Yeah, it was shot with an infrared camera. They supposedly have a weird sun that only produces light in a very specific range of the spectrum or something (kind of like that old Green Lantern comic about the frog alien who has no concept of the color green). Apparently stars like that don't really exist but it's based on some outdated theory of what black holes were and they used it because it looked cool.My headcanon is that it's actually some kind of large scale planetary shield system that filters the sun's radiation. There's an actual star called Prima Giedi (though some sources put the Harkonnens' homeworld in the Ophiucus system) that's similar to our sun except bigger and more luminous. Scientists think the amount of UV or other radiation makes it unlikely to have planets that sustain life, but maybe the Harkonnens or somebody else used terraformed it anyway as a vanity project during the boom years of colonization just to prove they could.
>>98403502>kind of like that old Green Lantern comic about the frog alien who has no concept of the color greenHe has no concept of the color green because he lives in a region of space with no light, and he has no eyes.
>>98403662Yeah. The deal is that there are supposed to be stars there that make heat but not light... I think? Apparently that was an old theory about what black holes were before physicists figured out all the stuff about event horizons and like that.
>>98395024Yeah, in the encyclopedia itself they're quite renaissance-looking.
>>98394931>They look like corporate logos.You're so close to understanding. Also: modern people think messy coats of arms that are historically authentic look ugly and retarded. Which they do, because their purpose was not to make you go "oh damn, look at THAT coolguy" but to tell you exactly who you were fighting or fighting alongside in a chaotic battlefield, a problem that I don't think exists in the Dune setting for the most part because while their combat is melee for handwave reasons their commos are not nearly so straitjacketed most of the time.
>>98398030Can someone shut this stupid bot down already?
>>98394931>huh this specific interpretation of this far future scifi empire with competing despot factions has quirks that seem similar to modern corporate aesthetics>I'm too autistic to interpret media without matpat telling me why the screaming robot bear is sad, so I'll just assume it's a flaw in the design
>>98408484Why? He's objectively correct.You can stay mad and die mad about it, but he'll still be correct, and while jannies are routinely tremendous faggots, he's not breaking any rules, you dumb fucking nigger.
>>98408477good point, so the simplified banners are used for what?
>>98408477>because their purpose was not to make you go "oh damn, look at THAT coolguy" but to tell you exactly who you were fighting or fighting alongside in a chaotic battlefieldwere they?I expect they provided more utility to commanders and lieutenants, to figure out where each unit was located, and even that mostly before the battle, not duringI expect the soldiers mostly didn't give a shit beyond knowing their own banner, and in battle they just slashed anyone facing the wrong direction or yelling in the wrong languageand I find it really hard to believe your average soldier knew enough about the banners of their enemies to have an informed opinion
>>98402385Dune:The Official Board Game
>>98411965It wouldn't be necessary for the average man at arms to know more than "the guys with a gold lion on their shields are on our side, the guys with a blue griffin are the enemy", but for the people leading the troops it would be useful to be able to see with a glance where all of your allies and enemies were at a given moment, and who exactly you were fighting against.
>>98411411Brand advertising, because these are companies as much as noble houses.
>>98408585And in playing traditional games, often (but not always) one builds a world in which to play. Your infantile behaviour and lashing out in general doesn't make your point any stronger
>>98395456>current moviesThey're so neo-corposocialist and sterile, I hate them so much. They make Lynch's Dune look like an incredible achievement in high art even though it was regarded as pretty mid, even by Lynch himself when it released.
>>98414051I wish we'd gotten the Jodorowsky Dune with Dali.
For me it's the green Atreides Banner
