Dwarf Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-29-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98385074>TQWhat is your favorite tribal synergy card?
>>98398491Why is an underground folk melanin-enriched?
>>98398491solid I am begging you to stop doing this shit, you have been blacklisted from every other community and you are actively working to fuck up the only one that will have you
SEXO SEXO SEXOOOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOOOOOO
>>98398566this bih needs rape correction ASAP
>>98398521?
>>98398491>tq
>>98398491>TQ
>>98398491>TQIt's TRIBAL, not kindred
>>98398805But OP does say TribalDoes anyone who isn't taking WotC Money ever bother to say Kindred?
>>98398805Didn't this one have a censored version for like promo material and stuffOr am I schizo
>>98398829yea, there was a version where her cleavage was covered up.
>>98398805Will FRA have a Nissa? I deserve a new Nissa.
>>98398966They probably forgot she exists
>>98399018Why do you think so?
>>98399023The QUALITY of the previews
>>98399025That does not follow.
>>98399102well memed, anon
>>98399059QUALITY all caps is a meme that means the opposite is true
>>98399139Yeah but how did they forgot about her if she had last card in Aetherdrift.
Where are my premodern macacos at? Are you enjoying playing with old smelly cards and not buying $3000 collector boxes with 10 booster packs?
I guess over here concon has a different meaning, huh?
>>98399264enjoying my landstill, might buy a stasis or sligh deck soon
>>98399264Building dragonstorm and brewing with burning wish. I got a rb midrange build and am leaning towards making a grixis variant cause nightscape familiar synergizes with it well. Plus I love a good lobotmy
>>98399278So it is a thing that exists
>>98399403Post list if real.
>>98399408Not only exists, but it's pretty popular and played all around the world!
>tqUnironically
>>98399411When I get off work or after fnm. I don’t have a list for the dragonstorm deck yet. I’ll post the burning wish deck later
you're beautiful
>>98399888These feels alarmingly viable in elf decks
>>98399143>there are now multiple "cast Dwarf, get axe" cards in HOBWotC is unable to stray from basic bitch level of memery with sets these days as they take "And my axe!" to the maximum degree possible...
>>98400073but it's funny ^^
>>98399143I thought one mana two power red creatures were supposed to have a downside
>>98399102Epic!
>>98399102>Not Gift a CardWhy does WotC hate Owling Mine so much.
>>98400181here's the earliest 1 mana red creature with 2 power and no drawback that I could find. it even has an upside. notably, it's a rare. we've gotten quite a few red savannah lions with upside in Standard sets now:>Falkenrath Gorger >Falkenrath Pit Fighter >Embereth Veteran >Greasewrench Goblin>Kavaron Harrier>Dwarven Mauler
Ok now hear me out.....>>98400181bro your Ragavan?>>98400305There's a couple in the capeshit set too
>>98400181>I thought *thing that hasn't been true for at least a decade*Anon...
>>98400526Lorwyn had so much fucking soul, we didn't know how good we had it
>>98400526Legendary is a drawback :^)
Hunting Pack Leader2BBCreature WolfFlashWhenever a creature an opponent controls would die, exile it instead. When you do, create a green 2/2 wolf creature token4/3
Play Premodern
Mirthwood Pathmaker2GCreature Elf RangerThis creatures power and toughness are each equal to the number of lands you control
>>98400641Unplayable in Standard obviously, but quite bad in Limited (compared to the other R wolf from earlier this week, the 3 mana one)
hobbit is shit jesus christ...
>>98400740Really though. Damn.
>>98400641Why are wolves in the black identity? They are loyal pack animals and basically biologically the antithesis of black's flavor identity.
>>98400649Cheapest version of this that exists (by a decent margin), but it is still just a big dumb elf at the end of the day. Beanstalk saw play because the creature was just a bonus on the playable ramp half.
>>98400649>闇の森that's "Mirkwood", not "Mirthwood" obviously>>98400662wow that sure is similar to an FF card. >>98400787Garruk made black wolf tokens a couple of times, but you're right, it's pretty rare. Ukkima and Sarulf are the only UW exceptions that come to mind. I guess the difference is that in Middle Earth, wargs are like, legitimately evil rather than just being normal wolves.
>>98400835>wow that sure is similar to an FF card.Which was already similar to a thunder junction card: 2 mana, landfall put a +1/+1 counters with a 5+ mana activated ability.
>>98400835>wow that sure is similar to an FF card.Please understand, WotC's developers just can't think creatively.
>>98400905Bristly Bill's a stick though, very different application because you can slam him down and just have him pump himself.
>>98400787They are Wargs
>small setjust release it already so we can leave this sad chapter behind us.
>>98400740every UB set so far has felt like this to mejust an amorphous blob of commander creatures and generic draft chaft
>>98398566WHEN ARE PROXY VENDORS GOING TO MAKE HER IN QUALITY AAAA
>>98401219The real version is 10 american dollars. I will personally see that she isn't produced because this spam is annoying.
If you knew what magic would eventually become when you first started playing, would you have still chosen to get into it?
How good is Orcish Bowmasters?I'm getting back into modern after a 7 year break, and I am going to play mono black lessons. I see decks run anywhere from 1-4. With how pricy they are (especially compared to the rest of the deck if you already have lands), I was wondering if I should bother getting a full set.
>>98401344>I'm getting back into modern after a 7 year breakFor your own sake, don't.
>>98401344>I'm getting back into modern after a 7 year break,My condolences. I'll pour one out for you.
>>98401287With that art and flavour text, I would have thought this card would have had some Wolf tribal synergy with it
>>98401344>I am going to play mono black lessonsit's not essential for the deck to function but it's the type of card that you're REALLY happy to have it when you need it, specially against energy and blinkI don't know your local meta so I can't say you're absolutely going to need it, my recommendation would be building the deck without it and seeing how it goes
>>98401389What deck does the quintessential landmine girl Fuyuko plays, anon? U bet she plays stax/monored prison and laughs at your suffering!
>>98401556she plays squirrels because she indentifies as a trash rat
>>98400699How original>>98400641BG best archetype in draft?
>>98401986could've been playable at 3 mana, at 4 it is garbo
>>98401986If not for all the FIRE garbage from the last 4 years this shit could be played in pioqueer humans.
>>98400181R for 2/1 haven't had downsides since FIRE> sighs in Jackal Pup. *sigh*
Looking like World of Warcraft may be one of next year’s Sloppy sets. Slop enjoyers, how does this make you feel?
>>98402321>World of Warcraftyuck. someone at SDCC please talk to maro about no more UB.
>>98398491>legendariesIs this the first appearance of this term in official rules text? I don't like it. It makes me think of Groudon and Rayquaza, not Urza and Mishra.
>>98402350>>legendaries>Is this the first appearance of this term in official rules text?No.
>>98402321What gives that away?
>>98402321this gives me an excuse to finally stop being lazy and play the Warcraft 3 campaign I have been putting off for whiledon't know shit about actual WoW lore I only played the RTS custom maps and Hearthstone >>98402365pic related got leaked
>>98402321Its going to feel weird having Warhammer and its copycat on the same game
>>98402350Newfags always gonna new.
>>98402403Could be neat. At least it is fantasy.
wew lads, its not some collector booster $5000 card but I pulled picrel from my fnm packs tonighta solid $56 in card kingdom store credit, by far the most valuable thing I've gotten>>98402321>wow/mtg slopover>when hearthstone still existshearthstone getting shut down l-lol??
>>98402403>don't know shit about actual WoW loreits shit, don't bother. wrath is kinda cool, but its mostly just continuing the story of arthas from WC3. all the good warcraft lore comes from the RTS games and the books
>>98402403>>98402612>WoW loreThe only fantasy writing I've read that's worse is MtG. I want to make it exceptionally clear this is not an endorsement of WoW """writing""". I just wanted to provide a reference point for how only one piece of media was ever worse than it.
>>98402658wow/warcraft writing isn't very good, but the RTS/book lore is still coolits like low-brow cool; its not thought provoking or anything, but grom jumping up and ramming gorehowl through mannoroth's chest and then mannoroth fucking exploding like a nuke is still sick. even better when you go to orgrimmar and see the remnants of mannoroth's armor that thrall put on a tree as a trophy right outside his throne room
>>98402686Personally my favorite was all the books they dedicated to dragon sex for no reason.
>>98401008I'm not into FF so I don't know the fluff, but I think Billy is actually a cactus (not a stick).
>>98402658MtG lore sucks now but it has had good books. Has WoW's writing ever been good?
>>98402602Looks sick desu
>>98403012yeah but I started playing about 2 months ago so I'd rather get a playset of shocks over a single cool card
>>98403086That sphinx is very meta right now so really it's nice
>>98403086don't listen to him anonquantum diddler will rotateshocks are forever
I want Umezawa's Jitte in standard they should put it in the kamagawa set
>>98403180i can pick up 4 copies of the shitty turtles printing for it then since they're $3
>>98403180But we already have jitte in standard
>>98403185That card is not good and I want people to see the og is also bad now too. There are now a huge critical mass low cost equipment, creatures, and synergies and I bet it will not even be tier 2
>Barely getting 5 posts a day nowthis game is so fucking dead haahahhahahahaahaha
Given Pokemon would never, do you think you could get a Palworld set?
Gotta love it when some nigga simply decides not to send your order
I equip Thrall with Link's Master Sword and declare attack!
>>98403374I was actually thinking about it earlier since I was playing itBut nah, no wayPartly because a set of only beasts wouldn't work, partly because they couldn't have guns anyways because muh WotC policy and partly because WotC and Nintendo have collaborated in the past and they probably don't wanna piss off the autistic Nips. If I remember correctly, they worked together on foiling techniques in the late 90's, something like early MtG foils borrowed some of their processing pipeline
please, at least make it w3 centric and no wow centric, i think the lore of w3 alone is enough for a whole set , wow has too much bloat
>>98403826But anon don't you want a Leeroy Jenkins card?
>>98402602>hearthstone getting shut down l-lol??very unlikely, the game started making a shitton of money after they decided to introduce gacha mechanics and bring back the China servers
>>98402602You wish fag, the game, if being a huge stinky pile of predatory shit is not only popular at Chine but is like ten thousand miles away from games like this one. The most offensive shit you can see there is Kerrigan as a hero.
>>98403826The FF set was mostly FF XIV, remember?
yesterday I went to a modern FNM30 players. Just 3 were fucking ass.it was nice.
>>98404440>Just 3 were fucking ass.what?
>>98404442Just 3, out of 30 players, were assholes.27 players were nice people(ESL, btw)
>>98404448oh I see, that's nice anon!
>>98404453yes. ALMOST had me the urge to go back to modern (been out since MHII)
>>98404448How did you find out they were assholes?
>>98404704 he fucked them in the ass obviously
>>98399411Here’s the list. Haven’t played it yet against “real” decks. Hella one-ofs cause I’m indecisive. I have a 4th wish to squeeze in. I also wanna throw a sorcery in the side that is just a good value play. Obvi after I get some actual reps in I can take out some of the more useless or narrow maindeck cards out. I think if I lean more on red then I can go up to 4 familiars. Or maybe I play a deck with 8 familiars
>>98404448>30 people playing modern at a random fnmWhere do you live? Because that sounds like bullshit.
>>98404961Nebraska
>>98402927WoW's? Not particularly. Warcraft 2 / 3 have some decent parts to them, but WoW has always been a mishmash of nonsense.
>>98404125every card is somehow simultaneously boring and overcomplicated at the same timeIncredible they even found a way to strike such a ruinous imbalance.
>>98402362Reminder text isn't rules text.
>>98405544And that's true of the card in the OP.
>>98405634Correct, anon was wrong to ask the question.
>>98403185It's not fantastic, but it's good. People don't know how to use it, though. It can be a mana engine, and it works great with double strike.
>>98405807>fantastic
Do you guys think MH4 is coming in 2028? They didn't announce it in the 2027 schedule so it's not happening next year.
Call me dumb but I like MH setsThey1. are In Universe, revisiting a lot of classic planes2. bring back a lot of classic mechanics 3. experiment with mechanics a lot4. have cards that are relevant and actually playableCompared to a set like Capeslop, where I don't care about a single character, 99% of cards are draft chaff and the mechanics are basic as shit, it's not even a contest
>>98405872Agree, i hope they so them for Pioneer
>>98405851no. no need for mh sets when the standard sets are as strong as mh1 was. power creep and the abandonment of standard has obviated the need for direct to Modern sets.>>98405872>Call me dumb but I like MH setsI accept your invitation
>>98405891a-a-at least I revived the thread..
>>98404826I love Rakdos so fucking much.
>>98404961NTA but there are still places where Modern is one of the dominant formats. I live right on the border between France, Germany and Switzerland, and it all but disappeared from France but is still popular in Switzerland and Germany, with a weekly event in each of the nearest cities.
>>98405872MH1 was actually nice imo
>>98405899Let it die next time.This game is shameful for both players and posters
>>98405969nyo
Just saw somebody open up a pack of cards and scream in terror because there was a spider token in the pack
>>98405872>have cards that are relevant and actually playableto me, this is the problem, because making a card "playable" in the non-rotating formats is most easily accomplished by making making it some crazy garbage that kills you fastcompare:>reference to an iconic design that's literally a straight downgrade to a card that was already legal in every format modern horizons is in, but hey maybe you'll have fun in limited or put it in a cubeto>is half of the name of a vintage deck, and it's incredibly obvious why from the very instant you read ittoo much of modern horizons is dedicated to referencing stuff that is only iconic because it is strongtime spiral is better (and don't get me wrong, there's definitely cards in time spiral that have their head up their own rear end) simply because it was beholden to being balanced for standard (at a time when standard had a reasonable power level)
>>98405899it's okay I still love you I just think you're easily pandered to
>>98405872I like them a lot too, I'm not by any means a huge limited player but I have very fond memories of drafting MH1 and MH2 on MTGO and I drafted the shit out of MH3 when it was released on arena. I also enjoy all the ways they explore new designs as well as reference older cards. What I don't enjoy is what they do to Modern, it's one thing if we get a handful of playable cards, it's another when you can make a top tier deck entirely off of MH cards.
>>98402403Didn't this already exist?I guess it wasn't updated from 3.5e until now. Does WoW have a big anniversary next year?Since someone at WotC said that all the UB sets will be for anniversaries of those IPs,so maybe a full 40k set since it's 40th anniversary is next year
>>98406002That's true, but unfortunately it's one of the risks of being free to design whatever they want however they want.For every Ocelot Pride, there's a whatever the fuck this is: if they made every single rare/mythic janky and niche, people would rightfully bitch because it would feel more like an unset than an interesting set for experienced players. So some cards have to be super Spike-coded while others are for people who wanna fuck around, it's inevitable.
>>98403864>a Leeroy Jenkins card?3R6/2haste. when this enters, target opponent creates 2 1/1 red dragon creature tokens*At least I still have chicken...*BOOM, there's your leeroy jenkins card
>>984044423 of them were loudly having anal sex between rounds
>>98406052>Does WoW have a big anniversary next year?no, they had the 30th a couple years ago
>>98403127I'm 100% selling it to buy lands. I want to work towards getting the 3 pairs in jund colors
I thought this could make more than 3-3 but turns out drawing 12 lands or having your opponent draw the perfect counter every single time can make even a reasonable ok deck be shit.I hate Arena.
>>98406182your opponent getting lucky and flooding have nothing to do with Arena, but yes, Arena is dogshit
>>98406210>have nothing to do with Arenadon't believe their lies
>>98402743Explains why the only people who still care about the setting are ERPing furfag troons
>>98406214Yes, the multibillions dollars company hates you personally , they rig the game specially against you. They even hired an intern just for that.
>>98406239>>98406210You know that rigging a game like mtg is not that hard at all, and people would only be able to find it happens if they went really deep into the code.Unless proven otherwise Arena is rigged as fuck, even during gameplay.(I still remember some anons claiming it was all fair, then wizards made a statement they would stop rigging as much the match making, etc)
I want a loser to defile me after I lose...
>>98406310> then wizards made a statement they would stop rigging as much the match making, etc)Nevermind you're a fucking schizo
LegacyUnchangedVintageUnchangedWe keep asking players the state of the formats and the only result we got were. "It's fantastic." We even asked them to say that again and they doubled down with "It's fantastic". This is the healthiest the formats have been in decades, as far as our polls are concerned.
>>98406239it has equitable distribution, read poker code crack
>>98406377>We even asked them to say that again and they doubled down with "It's fantastic"I would say this if they asked me
>>98406380Having the most dreadful flashback to watching the barrel escape scene in theater.
>>98406361Anon. They literally said that when they addressed the match making of brawl where they were matching certain decks together, and they only said anything because it became really really bad.Being a schizo is denying arena isn't rigged when we have evidence of certain rigging that we only know because of how bad things became and wotc having to say something about it being corrected.
>>98406422got what you deserved if you bought tickets after the first one to be brutally honest with you
>>98406380Cute. It is way to either trigger multiple landfall or having multiple ETB shit happening.It is a rare that some people would skip as 1st pick but it is imo very playable in limited.
>>98406429hey did you know that there's a thread for this?go there
I just feel absolutely nothing for all the hobbit cards. I could not give less of a shit. I quite liked the hobbit book as a kid too. I just feel so over modern LoTR. Black Aragon really killed it for me. I just don't understand why they race swapped him. Like I get it they want "diversity" but why for example do they make sure Moana has all polynesians but when it comes to European stuff they wipe their ass with it literally turning a characters skin to the color of shit? Such a fucking clown world. The only thing I'm looking forward to is the Mike secret lair. I got the goblin storm one. I've literally not played commander since 2013, I just like collecting pretty cards.
>>98406553Hope it flops and scares them shitless regarding revisiting any 'le money printer' UB sets like FF or whatever the fuck
>>98406553A long time ago (early in the 1900s) the first world countries (mostly the Anglo sphere) found out that the more "advanced" their nation is, the less their people breed. This is an issue because their financial theories require the population to continuously grow.To solve this they turn to immigration, and a lot of culture reshaping was done to ensure people do not lash out against the consequences of their policing. The word "diversity" simply means "everything that ensures our population never ages".Well, MtG is one of those consequences.
>>98406564>Hope it flopsIt won't, preorders for a bunch of the different boxes and bundles are sold out already at a bunch of stores. Collector booster boxes are selling out at prices already >50% higher than Strixhaven or Marvel Collector boxes.
>>98406668What do people see in this woke shite?
>>98406700most people dont care about the nog cards and want to gamble on tor/bowmasters reprints
>>98406700its all speculators dude. sealed product exists to be bought by speculators gambling on hitting an alt art foil they can sell to an "investor" or some retarded commanderhog
>>98406564I don't think this one specifically deserves to flop, I rather see shit like Marvel and Trek flop for real and really hard and show WotC how garbage is to try to merge "heroes" or "capeshit" as Magic elements.
>>98402927WoW immediately jumped the shark with the very first expansion, where they got the retarded idea to turn every major TFT character into a loot pinata at the same time. This ruined everything and the game never recovered from it.
>>98406218But enough about MtG
>>98407359Nobody care about MtG setting anon, not even ERPing furfag troons.
The bots are offline today, something big is brewing.
Same energy.
>It's high noon, pardner.
>>98404125The fucking butler gets a named card?
>World of Warcraft UB is inevitable.Yeah, no. I'm leaving the moment that radioactive shitheap becomes a part of this game.
>>98408216>I'm gonna tickle you
oh, boy! this thread // game sure is dead!
>>98408657the hobbit really sucks, I wish we could fast foward to reality fracture already
>>98408672
>>98398498Middle earth is in Africa my dude. Dont you know?
>>98408672I wish we could fast forward to MtG's entropic death
>>98408803Nice picture of two losers
For me it'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y
the recut hobbit movie actually makes the trilogy watchable. not great tho, just watchable.
>>98408874I doubt it will happen
>>98408889It's equally as soulless
>>98408905>not great tho, just watchable.
>>98408905the editing process can't give soul to a soulless project
LGS posted its august events>pauper>duel commander>ap hobbit>multi commander>duel commander>modern>multi commander Grim?
Favorite shadowborn Apostle/Demon commander?
>>98408461I'd hope it would just focus on Warcraft 1-Warcraft 3 but that is quite unlikely.Imagine the four precons each being for the respective 4 factions in Warcraft 3. >Jeskai Paladin Arthas and Jaina for Humans>Gruul Thrall and Grommash Hellscream for Orcs>Dimir Kel'Thuzad and Mal'Ganis for Undead (or DK Arthas if they really wanted to double dip on Arthas)>Bant Malfurion and Tyrande for Night Elves
>>98408960>commanderwe don't do that here, sir
>>98408968kel'thuzad and anub'arak. mal'ganis makes no sense for the scourge even though he's technically with them; he's the puppetmaster behind the scourge and KT hates him because KT is loyal to the lich kingalso >nelves>bantthey're pure naya bro
>>98406380>creature or landprint more "exile target permanent" flicker effects god damnit
>>98408874Oh yeah, that time Sam started a race war. I love the old cartoons
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>>98408891T H E R E'S A W A Y
>>98409185>commanderIt's probably about how red no longer is shit because they have like 20 ways to deal double damage and force additional combat steps now.
>>98409185Won a game last night in mono red.>price of progress>flashback>price of progress>acidic soil
>>98409185>And Nobody NoticedLiterally everybody noticed.
I play YGO and I'm still able to parse everything my opponent is doing.I play MTG and the entire game is just "Fuck off, I'm not reading that shit."How have things gotten SO bad?
>>9840932899% of games are "i did a thing, that causes this to trigger so I get to draw/put a +1/+1 counter/create a token". How are you not able to parse this
>>98409343The lines in YGO are extremely linear and the resulting board states are highly predictable. MTG's just a fucking clusterfuck.
>>98409328>>98409350I'm assuming you're comparing MTG standard with YGO advanced which is a bit of comparing apples to oranges, legacy would be the MTG equivalent of advanced and most of the play patterns there are pretty straightfoward
I really feel bad for those who want to enjoy real paper Magic (not commander) but their local LGS are dead or only have commander nights.I play pauper every Wednesday and we have at least 16~20 players everyweek, sometimes reaching up to 30. It’s fun, competitive, overall a very chill enviroment where most everyone knows each other, trade cards and banter/chat about the format and Mtg in general. It really still feels like “the old days” here.Brazil is literally the best place to be a casual Magic player and is not even close.
>>98409328Cause you probably better at YGO then MTG.Actually good Mtg players don’t need to read a card, they look at the art and they know their effect and what it implies on the game state.
>>98409431>Actually good Mtg players don’t need to read a card, they look at the art and they know their effect and what it implies on the game state.He says, lying, knowing full well that every Pro Tour for the last several years has been a shitshow of 30+ minute games where both players are blundering through triggerslop layers.
>>98409436In buddhism we call that "idiot kindness". Thanks anon.
>found an LGS just a 10 min drive away from my house>ask if the guys there play MTG there even if at friday nights>"sure but most of them just play commander">tfw i can never escape the scourge that are commander players to play anything other than that for paper mtg
>>98409604Yeah like I mentioned before I have to actually go to another country to avoid commander
>>98409604>>98409609You bros should come to Nebraska. We have weekly hog roasts where we play Collector (A format where only special treatment cards are allowed) on picnic tables while we crack packs of Universes Beyond looking for serialized cards. You can easily avoid Commander here!
>>98409615>>98409619>implying you can get smug with your designated casual format designed to show off your own kewl kard kollectshundon't you faggots have your own containment thread? what are you doing here?
>>98409416>I really feel bad for those who want to enjoy real paper Magic (not commander) but their local LGS are dead or only have commander nights.I don't have to feel bad for them. I am one.It's a 45 minute drive to the nearest LGS that hosts anything other than Commander. I know Nebraska is booming but it's shocking just how little WotC cares about sustaining and maintaining non-Commander formats.
Good night /mtg/.
I went to a modern tournament in 2024 that had about 9 people there including me. I didn't go back because I simply didn't care to. Rather worryingly when I was organizing my stuff the other day I found a near fully built temur prowess deck that I don't remember buying so I guess at one point I was going to give it another shot but apparently forgot about it.
>>98409741>I went to a modern tournament in 2024 that had about 9 people there including me. I didn't go back because I simply didn't care to.Honestly, the formats are all just degrading to the point of it being very hard to motivate myself to get out and play. Combine that with the endless creep of how far I have to drive to find somewhere that actually hosts non-EDH events, and it genuinely feels like the game is rotting into a husk.
>>98409741>>98409756This is why we should fuse /mtg/ and /edhg/, the other formats are dead.
>>98409763>This is why we should fuse /mtg/ and /edhg/, the other formats are dead./mmg/ already withered into dust long ago, devoured by /mtg/ just so it could survive. I don't see why we shouldn't just let this shell of a thread die too.
>>98409676"Magic the Gathering General" includes all Magic the Gathering forms of play, of which EDH is one (and the most popular by far). If you'd like a more exclusive general you're welcome to revive the Standard/Modern thread.... lol
>>98409770>you're welcome to revive the Standard/Modern thread.... lolShows how truly dead the game is, in spirit, that all the separate format threads that used to thrive have basically no hope of existing nowadays.
>>98409770>>98409769Based and redpilled.
>>98409756>it being very hard to motivate myself to get out and playI'm also experiencing this. I have a couple of half built Legacy decks and others that could use an update and just require some fakes to finish up but I don't really see a point in completing them and feel like I'd get better use of my money elsewhere. The population where I live is too low to justify going all in on Premodern as we only play that once a month.
>>98409780>The population where I live is too low to justify going all in on Premodern as we only play that once a month.I mean, for me it's ANY format. Even the shit ones, Pioneer, Standard, who cards. I'd just want one format where the gameplay was decent enough to warrant getting out and playing, plus healthy enough so I don't have to drive an hour to find games. Finding even a single format where I feel my time is well spent playing it is an impossible ask these days. When someone who loves the game is thinking about playing it, and the prospect of sitting in a chair and watching a wall sounds like a better use of my time, something has gone wrong.
>>98409791Yeah that's more or less how I feel about it too. People should want to do things and something is wrong if they don't. I have genuinely been enjoying Premodern more than Legacy as of late but due to the playerbase usually being older, it's difficult to coordinate game days when so many people have other responsibilities that they have to work around
I you actually loved the game, you would play the most popular format, it's as simple as that, really.
>>98409826It's one thing for life to get in the way.I've had decent success getting people together to draft custom sets. It's been way easier than traditional formats at least.Leads me to believe that, if the game were good, people would make the time.
>>98405872you're a dumb boiled frog, every single point of yours was attainable before they set powercreep to max and broke the lever off
>>98406310It's 100% rigged to maximize whatever gay fucking engagement metrics they're tracking, I couldn't claim to know the specific patterns and why they rig it like that, but they definitely do. Playing arena vs MTGO is like night and fucking day honestly
>>98408803>someone says that they're weak>HOW DARE THIS PERSON NOT ADMIT THAT HE'S WEAKI don't get it
>>98409859i tried commander a few times and it honestly wasnt that bad but it feels like a format you play with friends or you dont bother trying to play at all because the randoms who play it are some of the dumbest or most insufferable people you will ever meet in your lgs
>>98410296Bigot
>>98410270They are unabled to project their insecurities causing cognitive dissonance.
>>98410296edh is a board game where you can sometimes accidentally (or "accidentally") wallet flex on your friends. I understand why some like it but I personally fucking hate it. Sloppy play is the norm because it takes like 25 minutes before it's your turn again and everyone else barely knows how their own cards work let alone how they work with the other 3 players cards.
>>98410391>>98410296I just build Tasha Wild stax ride and do a live deck profiling of strangers If they complain i'm casting broken shit i just reply "its your card bro"
Went over to a friend's house today and drafted one of the most powerful cube decks I've ever had in my cube (legacy cube, only pre-2019 cards).The combination of emissary's ploy (I can play 2 drops of any color) and hymn of the wilds (my first creature each turn is 1 less, but no instants/sorceries) led to some truly unique but insane spots, like turn 1 dark confidant.I ended up never playing a single game on the play though (played 7) - the only opponent who took me to three games had power play, so he always started on the play.
>>98409859Real niggas will play some magic with grocery store budget repacks of 15 tear old draft chaff commons. That is to say, the format doesnt matter they'll play anything
>>98409416Pittsburgh pennsylvania is a good magic townWe're full though to brazilians
>>98410771I would be giga down for that, especially if it's a curated format. $5 entry fee, random garbage singles, could be goated
>>98409346Troonlarian community college irl
>>98406553Because they hate white people and want them gone, despite being white themselves (and some jews)
>>98409416Quincy MA and south of Boston in general has tons of good spots to play. My LGS does pauper mondays and the vibe is immaculate and growing quickly. >>98409680grim
>>98404704>>98404817yes>>98404961São Paulo. It's insane how much people in Brazil like Pauper, Modern and Premodern.
>>98409416stop going to cardshall, fgt
>>98409416Yeah but its worse at literally every thing else lmao
I dont get the bitching and moaning about edh. Do we go back to standard being the premiere format? FnM was fucking shitty cancer, where you got to drop $400-$600 on a meta deck every few months. If you were silly enough to get into modern, you got to spend more to buy a brand new deck because all standard cards were shit. Nobody played extended, and even fewer played vintage/legacy.Commander should be the best format, because it has the highest probability for fun. However, this was grown in an environment where the cards weren't made with commander in mind, so it had a charming jankiness to it. Now that cards are designed for it, commander has become the new Standard, i.e., shit.
>>98409346incredible looking back at shen's art before he started playing will i wont i with trannies everyday
>>98410788I find amazing how scared is of making non magic content and having to suck UB up the ass
>>98411014Tbh this may be the healthiest way to look at the game going forward. Let EDH be the baby containment zone, and play your favorite real format. I think we're just coming out of a turbulent period where EDH was the only stable format because it's held together by vibes and pixie dust, but as other formats and LGS establish some stability we can get the real Magic backAll I can say is do the work and if you want pauper/mdern at your store, talk to the owners, set it up, and show up every week. Make friends. Build it. EDH has the advantage of being a beer and pretzels kitchen table board game than can also show up to LGS. A proper Pauper/Modern scene isn't happening unless you make it happen.
>>98411014>If you were silly enough to get into modern, you got to spend more to buy a brand new deck because all standard cards were shit.I spent like 15 straight years with the same Modern deck and barely had to make any changes lmfao, the fuck are you even talking about?
>>98398491>
>>98411103uh do you mean like 5 yearsmodern is barely even 15 years old
>>98411445Anon......
>>98411465sorry for reminding you of the inevitable march of time, and perhaps, by proxy, the general state of western societydo you have a favorite printing of giant spider
>>98411592No, anon. I am pointing that meme at you. Modern is 25 years old.
>>98411620oh crap i think i overslept
>>98411026QRD?
>>98411100>we're just coming out of a turbulent period where EDH was the only stable format because it's held together by vibes and pixie dust, but as other formats and LGS establish some stability we can get the real Magic backSurely this is merely ironic and bait?
>>98411014>Cards weren't designed for Commander>Look inside>Esper, esper, monoU, monoU, 5c never plays generalGreat "format"
>>98411648Draws himself as a girl now. Claims he's a man still. His gender therapist agrees he's a man. The trans desperately want him to be a trans.
>>98411820Let's put on some smooth jazz and Return to the Streets of New Capenna.
>>98411014>Highest probability of funStopped reading there, you should end yourself asap and stop wasting valuos oxygen fucking moron
Eureka>>98411836I rather not
>>98411820Don't judge me harshly for it but looking at left card immediately played this track in my mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbCW8h7m_KU
>>98412212a sword is not a hammer, dummy
>>98412212>>98412253Yikes. Seriously, that's such an embarrassing slip for a linguistics professor to make.
>>98412212 Hammer time
>>98411103Tell that to us amulet titan chads >:(
>>98412303why would hammer want this
Reading through the thread, there is a sentiment of melancholy at the loss of participation in non-edh formats.What makes edh so bad, and/or those formats so good? I ask to hear your opinions and from a place of curiosity, not to mock or argue.
>>98409859>not drafting your decks from whatever bulk you can get + booster boxes insteadngmi
>>98412324It's when the parent stops spoiling the the older child and shifts all attention to the new born. And now has to sleep with UB since the baby needs its own room.
>>98412324Multiples of each card changes gameplay meaningfully, 1 v 1 is better, sideboarding is skillfull, no retarded brackets so people don't bitch and moan when you try to win in constructed
>>98409416Based altar tron enjoyer, this deck/archetype is amazing
>>98412324there was a time when commander was this special homebrew format that we just played together with friends. we all wanted to try make the jankiest shit possible with our collection of cards as a form of self-expression or a flex among ourselves on top of it being an alternative format. and then Wizards decided to put their grubby mitts on them and double down on edh as one of their "official" formats nowadays. Now Commander EDH starts getting even a competitive nofunallowed scene endorsed by wizards themselves and starts making cards to be used specifically for edh. to me, it ruined the appeal of the format since it's practically the new Standard now and everybody's looking to copy the most meta decks off edhrec whenever they can. also when wizards starts regulating which card is legal in this freakin homebrew format, that's where it lost me. I guess Cube is now the unofficial homebrew format now since it plays like a personal draft format with curated cards
>>98412378Meh, it's just the format normies love.
>>98412212They made a worse Runechanter's Pike (again).
>>98412378That's why you banned Rhystic Study, right? Because it was a clear example of a card that would undermine the "just build for fun" spirit of the format by being an obvious must-include that would warp the game around whether or not you could run it.
>>98412324Standard was always a shit format, arguably worse now that standard is extended. The real move was to Modern. Problem with Modern is you couldn't play jank. If you wanted to not go 0-4 for the night, you had to play tier 1, or at least tier 1.5. Forget silly shit like treefolk tribal or whatever. Ultrasweatlords whose only competitive outlet is magic love it. Pauper is a cheap version of Modern. Premodern is an unc version of modern. Vintage was never going to take off, too costly.I used to play singleton/highlander/other jank formats, because thats where you often got to play weird or fun cards. Commander gobbled those formats up, and now reigns supreme, because it turns out more people want a game of leisure than tourney grinding. I think it's great.
>>98412577In my play group all GC's are banned.
>>98412626I play pioneer and it's nice
Dick suckers
>>98412651Isn't Pioneer just a gay version of Modern?
>>98412663Pioneer doesn't have MH sets though
>>98412678Yeah but the card pool begins long after the last soulful cards were printed
>>98412628GCs? You mean that list only established 15 years after they started printing cards explicitly for Commander?
now THIS is a carda shame it costs 2 mana though
>>98412663Nah, it's an un-gay version of standard.
they really like making these don't they
>>98412818yooo
>>98412838G-Guys? I'm starting to think the "gay dragon" thing wasn't a joke...
>>98412838This goes great in my play my opponents library commander deck
>>98412851Be ready for Bolas-Ugin love card soon being real
>>98412818More support for the prowess = wizards argument. Monks deserve better than prowess.
>>98412651Last year I went to visit a friend who lives in China. His home is in a small province near Chengdu known for its steep mountains, beautiful forests and shrines dating back to the Han dynasty. While hiking in the hills, we discovered a small cave behind a waterfall that wasn't marked on his map. Curious, we carefully navigated the slick rocks and stepped inside. Imagine our surprise when we found an old man meditating in the shadows! His robes were ragged and his beard wispy and white, like cobwebs. We knelt before him and asked who he was. He opened his tired eyes and said: "The only Pioneer player in China."
>>98412851Furries are a menaceA dragon will just be existing, maybe reclining on some gold or flying around, and out of nowhere some fat chud screams "I BET HE SUCKS COCK"
>>98412927jej i thought the twist was going to be gay sex
>>98412936They were just really good friends bro.
Whats wrong with being gay sucking cock eating cum and getting fucked in the butt? Who cares what dragons do in the bedroom?
>>98412838Casuals love the "play opponent's cards" effects because they have yet to understand that the cards in your opponent's deck will likely not support whatever it is your deck is supposed to be doing.That being said, if you are playing a card like this, then "what your deck is supposed to be doing" is nothing.
>>98412818DO THINGDO THING AGAINI LOVE DOUBLIIIIING
>>98413128But anon it would be great in my Gonti EDH deck XD
>>98413128in edh everything is just generic value engines/bombs now. no synergy needed
>>98412838Why yes I'd like to play Emrakul from the top of your library for 3 mana and 15 life.
>>98413263This has been Magic since its inception. What do you think Jund Midrange was?
I like playing my opponents cards. I will not be gentle with them.
A phyrexian dinosaur
>>98413128>they have yet to understand that the cards in your opponent's deck will likely not support whatever it is your deck is supposed to be doingNobody is worried about that
>>98412818OMG I CAN DOUBLE MY DO THING DRAW CARDS!!!!!
>>98413293>What do you think Jund Midrange was?NTA but in retrospect I hate that my Modern period back in 2019 saw so many Jund opponents
>>98413491If it drew a card and made a couple of tokens it would be almost playable in draft maybe
>>98413561I regret to inform you that the important part about Ragavan was making the treasures, not maybe sometimes casting an opponent's card.
Talking about jund remember putrid leech?
>>98413692That was the point retardo
Mark Rosewater is seriously just publishing his memoirs through the game's official website and nobody is stopping him.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/my-entry-into-fantasy-and-the-hobbit
>>98413978Yeah i keep having to stop and jerk off when he starts talking about how he was molested.
>>98413263I remember Siege Rhino in standard. The game has always been value bombs.
Cute.Will asian artists save magic's art direction?
>>98414147Why is this classed as a cleric?
>>98413978The "retirement soon" flags just keep on dropping - I expect the announcement before the end of 2027.
>>98413128Playing opponents card effects are usually stronger in meta where individual cards are stronger.
>>98414164Clerics are fantasy doctors.
>>98414214He will be 60 next year, it's a bit early for a retirement.
T H EA B S O L U T ES T A T E
>>98414224Isn't that Chirurgeon?
>>98414295And we still don't know the UB for next year
>>98414316MinecraftDC ComicsBattlestar Galactica
>>98414316>And we still don't know the UB for next yearWarcraft is confirmed.
>>98414357i don't really see that being the case, especially if 40k is happening next year
A Minecraft set would be kino. We could finally up from DFCs to 6FCs and have 3d cards with one effect for each face.
>>98414369NO
>>98414316more marvel
>>98414378You could roll the cards when you cast them to see what face you get to play! I need to find a way to contact Mark, he would love this idea!
>>98414382The Hasbro CEO did say no UB sets would be based in New York again at least next year >>One thing I will say on the Universes Beyond partners that we have next year is that they will be a bit more fantasy adjacent,” Cocks said. “And I don’t think any of them take place in New York City, because we definitely have gotten that feedback from some fans.
So now a random bird can be colorless.
>>98414520Who cares.
>>98414522Me
I have UB slop fatigue.
>fantasticar got banned as a commander in DCgodbless, the format is playable again
>>98414520honestly fucking weird
I have post-2014 slop fatigue. Ever since the borders changed, MTG has never been the same.
>>98414773
>>98414520>>98414750>We may not understand himno shit, total color pie death
>>98414520To compare with scryfall, there are no non-artifact creatures that aren't something like an eldrazi, avatar, god, shapeshifter, or something fucked up like a ninja mutant turtle/alien, there were 2 insects and not one random animalhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=c%3Ac+t%3Acreature+-t%3Aartifact+-t%3Aeldrazi+-c%3Aw+-c%3Au+-c%3Ab+-c%3Ar+-c%3Ag&unique=cards&as=grid&order=released
>>98414809What about the trilobie a completely normal animal and not an insect? : )
>>98414860might as well be an alien horror, that's what a trilobite is pretty much
>>98414877It just a prehistoric Horseshoe Crab.
>>98414890not fully certain, could be alien fossils, a far cry from a tangible living bird of today
>>98414784That Heron flavour text seems to be one of the ones WotC themselves made for whatever reason
>>98414972Their babies look Horseshoe Crab like.
>>98415044Also Gundabad Opportunist.
>>98415152
>>98414784>Blue gets Recruit>Blue gets token spam nowbecause FUCK the color pie, that's why
>>98414357A D&D book =/= a magic set anon.
>>98412533>Runechanter's PikeNah. That shit is completely different.3U>to draw cards (can draw more than stock up)2+2>decreases cost of shit.It won't be played in decks that want to attack, you will either use it on a hard control deck. You could probably play a man land to equip it to later play one of the EPIC spells from strixhaven.>>98412818double prowess.>>98412838Smaug joined Ugin and Bolas gay part?>>98413741>putrid leech:,(
>>98415404A D&D colab book might mean a mtg colab set. Same company. MTG gives more money than D&D on average. MTG colab might give more money.
>>98415430Praying for UB: Rick and Morty and UB: Minecraft since they also got D&D collabs.
>>98415282blue needs help sweaty, its underrepresented in every constructed format right now
>>98415511Those came before the mtg UB sets and you know it.
>>98415551That doesn't mean I can't dream. I'm also hoping for a full League of Legends and Fortnite set.
New thread>>98415574>>98415574>>98415574
>>98414435>believing cocks>everalso, could just be guardians of the galaxy or whatever. not every marvel setting revolves around NY
