Setting shit on fire editionPrevious Thread:>>98272386Check out here for useful links and a catalogue of relevant miniatures retailers:https://pastebin.com/nnNqqFLnThe Rogue Trader magazine article compilation:https://mega.nz/file/C4oSnArA#sA2O_7V6OnhZCOLCf0Sba1KW_wao3pZvc6IUmlHvpsk
>>98405565Anon here's got the goods! Just got a full folder of the classic metal SoBs from him, among many others! There was even the classic redemptionists to found in there.
>>98405119>Setting shit on fireDoes atomic fire count?
>>98407516>cast off skin of tarantulaDo I even want to know
>>98407734
>>98407755I'm not fan of it but it could be lot worse I guess
>>98407755Genuinely terrifying.
>>98407755Thanks I hate it
Traveling. Brought a couple of old WDs with me so I can really soak them in. This one has Advanced Space Crusade hype inside (hence the cover), how to make a custom Ork vehicle, how to make fantasy/mordheim type buildings out of cardstock
>>98410868The custom Ork vehicle is weirdly painted with some Khorne chaos symbols alongside the Ork ones. This detail isn't addressed anywhere.
Is this stuff just a modified wood stain?I think this was an old miniature speedpainting technique.I'm not sure how popular it still is or if it is really rendered "obsolete" instead of "old school" where obsolete is what you don't want to return to, but old school is what one can return to for the nostalgia, or just to try something new that still works.I always thought that the ArmyPainter quickshade dips are just kept around for the older hobbyists coming back and people like me feeling the old good new bad hipster mentality creeping in. So for anybody here from the era of wood stain shading models, is it still a very good speedpainting method of getting armies out quickly in the current year of this post being made? And if the ArmyPainter quickshade dips are just "unmodified" woodstain instead of what might be "thin staining" to me, then what is the closest approximate to dark tone dip I can get in this accursed country I call Canada?
>>98410874Because because in Rogue Trader there were Khorne worshiping Orks.
>>98411347If it's like AP's typical washes, it should just be a giant pot of thinned-down acrylic paint. Obviously it's still usable if you don't mind a holistic solution to shading, the modern culture of speed painting otherwise is using Contrast/Speed/Xpress/etc Paints (different brands and all) that are basically a base + wash applied by brush.
>>98411389>If it's like AP's typical washes, it should just be a giant pot of thinned-down acrylic paint.The safety says it is an oil based product.>https://thearmypainter.com/products/quickshade-quickshade-dip-dark-tone-qs1003pSo it isn't a pot of acrylic paint. I think Vallejo sells that, but I'm not too sure about it because I read that the new reformulated Vallejo paints bubble a lot or bubble too easily.
>>98411347It's basically a just combo wash/gloss varnish.
>>98411375Today Khorn worships Orks.
>>98411409Thanks. If there isn't really a better option I'll stick with acrylics. I read that Vallejo's dipping washes are terrible, but i'm not sure if they're used incorrectly or genuinely awful.
>>98411399>The safety says it is an oil based product.Fair. It says some drying oils are involved which I'd assume the formulation is different to make the whole dip thing work better, and/or has a bit of varnish in it.>I read that the new reformulated Vallejo paints bubble a lot or bubble too easilyStuff with an updated label comes to mind. Some of them are still usable but the one Pale Sand that people used to dickride was a pain to work with in my experience.
>>98411375Which is awesome and should still be a thing.
>>98405138The Legend, the Leahy...
>>98411375"demons who were once orks themselves" .. Now I want an ork daemon prince.... >:)
>>98403862Thank you anon!
>>98411389>If it's like AP's typical washesIt isn't
Do scans exist of Forge World's Death Korps and their vehicles?
>>98411347it might have made sense twenty years ago when you could buy a tin of woodstain for £2/£3 from Wilko. If all you wanted was to hit your models with earthshade, it would do the same thing and give them a satin varnish. I feel you'd be better off making your own oil washes to be honest, unless you wanted to do it for retro reasons.
>>98420135stubby termie...SOVL...
My old Bile bodyguard is slowly growing. Still have a World Eater and a Night Lord to finish.
>>98422711These are so incredibly gorgeous... and until you said it, I didn't make the connection between the bodyguards' appearances and the different ruinous powers!
>>98422711fuck, those are some good colors
>>98422711These are sick, nice one anon
>>98423099>>98423500>>98423732Thanks guys. Any keen eyed grog here able to tell which models I used as a base for the conversions? They're all 2nd-3rd ed SM metal dudes.Here's a wip of the last two.
>>98423968Night lord is an apothecary from 2e, I'm using that one in my blood angels army atm. The world eater is an apothecary from the very late 2nd/early 3rd edition space marine command squad box. Been meaning to add that set to my collection.
>>98423994Good eye. Wanna take a shot at the finished ones? They're a bit more chopped up so it might be slightly harder.
>>98423968Is that a mountain of dead space wolves?
>>98424234Yeah, /40kg/ has a monthly painting event and "space wolves getting absolutely destroyed" was the theme of the month in april. This was my entry.
>>98424257Marines Malevolent?
>>98424298Yeah i let dubs decide what should sit on top of the pile and it ended up being a Marines Malevolent
>>98424310Purest kino my friend
>>98424257The Marines Malevolent on top is 100% gonna be taking all those suits of armor to recycle them for use in his own chapter. I love them so much
>>98424313>>98424478Thanks :)Found the collage of that month. It was the one year anniversary of the monthly painting event, was nice to mark the occasion with such a fun project.
>>98411347It is a varnish. To the best of my knowledge it's a modified wood stain. I think it's great. This is one of the first "squads" I ever made and I used the dark tone dip.
>>98424016I'll take a crack, sure!Death Guard apothecary is Brother Corbulo of the Blood Angels.Emperor's Children apothecary is harder to pick, the legs have the look of the old plastic berserkers, body is from the blood angels honour guard, 3rd edition. The head I cannot place, though.Iron Warriors apothecary is the late 2nd/early 3rd command squad box set tech marine, narthecium-reductor and phials are from the 4th edition plastic command squad box.That SHOULD be major components.
>>98425057You got it, well done! The EC guy's head is some whfb elf I think, found it in my bit box.
>>98424257The one that had the 'limited' decal gets me every time.
What should I use as big mutants in Lost and the Damned, chaos ogres, chaos trolls or minotaurs? Already using gors as mutants.
>>98426717How big do they need to be? I've seen people use orks with some bits swaps to make mutants.
>>98426797Big mutants are ogryn-sized.
>>98426821If non-GW isn't an issue, Wargames Atlantic has Damned Brutes as their not-ogryns. Thought they're not sold as a separate kit yet, just part of the army box.
>>98427512I only use GW models for GW games, I'm a collector first.
>>98424515>that fucking titan leg
What's a cleaning solution that doesn't melt plastic but removes paint?
>>98428960I use denatured alcohol.
>>98428960I use brake fluid or pinesol (takes a while but it seems to do the job)
>>98428960Bartoline TX10Same stuff as biostrip, £5 from B&M.
>>98428960LA's Totally Awesome. This shit is cheap as hell, rips paint off, and doesn't do any discernible damage to the plastic. It has issues with some of the really aggressive primers (old Citadel Chaos Black in particular). You have to soak the mini neat, and scrub it *without using water to rinse*. You may need to re-apply a couple times to get chunky white or bone primer off, it plows through varnishes like they aren't there, and it instantly deletes oil paints. Wear gloves, it pulls the oils out of your skin and causes chemical burns. Does not leave a smell on the models; once you're done with the stripping you just need to soak them in water and scrub until the detergents are off. Can be re-used several times before it loses effectivenessSecond-best is 90% or better isopropyl alcohol. 99% is ideal, 90-95% will still work but they take longer. Doesn't do crevices as well as LA's, but with a plastic pick you can get those cleaned up pretty easily. You need to keep minis soaking in iso covered or you'll fume off all your delicious eyeball-destroying volatiles. Still need gloves because it rapes the oils off your skin and prolonged exposure is toxic, but it won't burn you the way LA's does. No soaking/rinsing required after you clean them, but you should dry the model before you put it back in the solution>>98429036Pine-sol fucking reeks and the oils soak into your minis. Can mess up later prime jobs. Ever since they changed the formula from actually using pine oil and coal tar it's gotten much less effective as a stripper>brake fluidWorks okay, but not as effective as LA's or iso. Also requires more careful disposal.
>>98429820I'll say be careful with IPA and test it on something you don't give a fuck about first. It worked fine on anything I ever painted with regular acrylics, but I tried stripping some X-Wing prepaints with it once after my Biostrip died and I found they stopped making it, and it just turned the paint into an awful rubbery glue that wouldn't scrub off which then subsequently hardened and bonded with the plastic as a detail-obliterating shell that nothing else could strip.
>>98428960Strips even enamels.
>>98433162Not in my experience, I had to turn to fucking mineral turpentine to strip the old DoW metals I had that were painted with enamels. The dettol will take care of damn near everything else, though, even seems to weaken superglue bonds.
>>98433256>superglue bondsThats weird because for me this thing burn down everything but CA and plastic.>metalsYou should have use acetone.
>>98433345>You should have use acetone.I did, after the dettol failed to shift the enamels the first time, when that didn't work it was time for the turps. Was a real frustrating time, desu.>That's weird because for me this thing burn down everything but CA and plastic.When I strip metals and old plastic(my own or 2nd hand) that I know were assembled with superglue bits that were solid as a house before soaking come off without even trying when I pick them up out of the soup, so I dunno man. Shit just does things.
Does anyone have a scan of the old 3rd Dialogus model?
>>98411347>is it still a very good speedpainting methodNo. It's viable, but not very good. It wasn't even very good back in the day. What it was was inexpensive, very fast, and just about adequate if you didn't mind a slightly muddy look and the minis would only ever be seen en masse from three feet away. Modern photography would reveal a horrifying mess of drops and runs.It's a bit rough by modern standards and looks terrible over bright colors (especially yellow) but it looks far better than bare plastic, so if you feel like this will help you get your army painted, go for it. Just keep in mind that it takes a while for this shit to dry and it makes an absolute mess, so work over a disposable surface, wear gloves, and have cleaning supplies nearby. The actual wood stain is oil based so that means paint thinner.
>>98441470Damn thats a cool mini, super nice work anon.
>>98429820I second the LA totally awesome. You can often find it at a dollar tree for a very good price too. And they will sell you a cheap ass tupperware to do the soaking in.Slow and steady wins the race. Putting in 20% elbow grease 5 days in a row will get you far more than soaking 5 days and then scrubbing 100%.
>>98441470Birmingham wastes?
>>98441470You did really well on that!I gotta download that creator's stuff.But I think a good amount have been taken down.Anybody got an archive file to drop here so I can have the whole collection, please?
>>98441900>>98429820Is LA's Totally awesome safe to use on most 3D printing resins and maybe even finecast era resin? I think it would be okay on metal and hard plastic.
>>98442179I have use it to successfully strip GW plastic, FW resin, and GW fine cast resin all with no problems. When working your goal with the tooth brush is to lift the paint up and off to expose more paint underneath, it sort of wants to sluff off. But it will not remove rattle can primer from Gw plastic the same way. See the attached photo, these are resin and plastic parts to the hybrid vulture kit that I got off eBay. The poor thing must have been through 3 owners because it was repainted 4 times. But you can see the resin engine is almost completely clean, while the black primer on the plastic wings just never comes off all the way, instead it started to get thinner and thinner almost translucent.
>>98442179And here are some actual finecast minis I did, some 4th ed hive guard.
>>98442200>>98442211Thanks! I'll check if there are cheaper ways to get it in Canada than Amazon to strip my minis.
>>98442170no, not a good amount, everything was nukedand now everything is back up on the maker's cults3d page
A friend came back from a con and gave me a ziplock back full of metal Space Marine scouts. I don't know how many are in there exactly, but it's a big freezer bag full of them. He got it for super cheap from an old guy selling his hoarder pile. So now, what do I do with them? It's cool and interesting but there are just a shitload. I am mostly interested in 3e because I'm a middlehammer babby. Should I turn these into Black Templars or what?
>>98443026Depends on what weapons they've got, templar neophytes don't get to take heavy weapons or snipers.
>>98405119A couple threads ago a fellow anon was posting Blanche's ideas and kitbashes from WD I believe. I forgot to save them... Does anyone still have those or know where they are catalogued?
>>98443176Like this sort or pictures of models?
Alright reception in awg didn’t go well so I’m reposting here to see if there is any interest.Here my first pass attempt at the genestealer cults for pepsihammer. GSC are pretty new to me so there was a lot backstory learning and work to get their flavor right. Looking for feedback if anyone is interested.https://gofile.io/d/JivB5B
>>98444760Reception in awg was fine you prissy little bitch
>>98444804No need to be angsty anon.
>>98443026>So now, what do I do with them? It's cool and interesting but there are just a shitload. I am mostly interested in 3e because I'm a middlehammer babby. Should I turn these into Black Templars or what?Honestly scouts in 3e are pretty nasty as long as you put a decent amount of terrain on the table. Especially if you have an autocannon conversion or two. It's your only non-Dread access to the gun - R48/S7/AP4/HVY 2 is a hell of a drug. Infiltrate + Move-through-cover and smoke grenades are nice too. And of course a few batteries of cheap sniper rifles and a squad or two with shotguns are good for clearing out enemy chaff infantry. >TemplarsThey don't really play to *any* of the Scouts' strengths. No cheap heavy weapons, can't use their movement rules, no smokes, they can't even have fucking bolters, and they have WS3/BS3. Which gets them a whole 2-point rebate. The only reason a lot of people took them was for some wound allocation shenanigans that got pretty much immediately removed by the close combat rules update a year or so after the BT codex got published. If you want special characters, the Dark Angels are the only ones with a Scout character. Their extra rules make close combat scouts a mildly iffy proposition, though. Gotta save versus just standing still and unloading if you're in weapons range. Personally I have about 25 Scouts I use in a not-quite-White Scars army. Used them for a mix of stuff. Sniping Monstrous Creatures. Shotgunners with a Melta Bomb sergeant are fun for ambushing low-armor enemy squads, and shotties or CCWs are a cheap unit to toss into a Land Raider Crusader. Laying down walls of AP4 fire to knock out transports, Stormtroopers, and Aspect Warriors. They're a lot of fun in the original Kill Team or 40k/40m, too
>>98443176There's a lot of Blanchitsu in Warhammer Visions if that's what you're referring to
BOYL* this weekend anyone going?
>>98448577I'm on the wrong side of the pond.
>>98443895Yes! and actual converted models with short descriptions of their parts too>>98445564>Blanchitsu Not specifically but I remember one image suggesting how to model mercenaries that pretended to be space marines. If that means anything to someone
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>>98442222Dollar tree usually has LA's totally awesome
>>98448577I thought it got cancelled this year? But the dates for Friday, Saturday and Sunday line up with next weekend so uncertain. iirc there was a bootleg one but didn't keep up with it.
>>98450195As an avid painted mini collector (coonsoomer) I often wonder where these and the older GW studio minis are.You see the rare Golden Demon winner up for sale from time to time, but never studio or old WD minis.
>>98452809Most of the stuff pre-91 is in the Ansell collection, hosted at their Foundry Miniatures shop
>>98452809Those are John Blanche's private models.
>>98452809GW held onto a lot, 'just in case', but some of the guys from the studio were able to keep a few minis they worked on when they left. At least, back in the '80s/'90s, by the 2000s GW was a lot more possessive . Like when Mike McVey left in the late '90s, he was gifted the Green Knight and Tyrion (nice recent photos of those on the studiomcvey Insta). From there, some minis ended up being sold on or gifted, so there are quite a few in private collections
>>98450278yeah it's Bootleg BOYL held on the Saturday in Nottingham
>>98452809When I visited the UK in 2002, several of the models that appeared in old White Dwarf photo shoots and the Second Edition Rulebook were in a glass case at GW Hammersmith. More recent photos taken by visitors to Warhammer World in Nottingham suggest GW has moved at least some of them to display cases there.
>>98453539At the time, the books in the background would not yet be considered ancient, but as the Dark Age of Technology rumbled onward, they became apocryphal.
>>98428960Unless you enjoy suffering, just use 99% isopropyl alcohol. It's the active ingredient in basically everything else that gets recommended anyways and will work way faster. I've left plastic in it for weeks at a time with no problems.
How do I know oldhammer on the second hand market are not recasts? I mean, recasts are really good these days and these sellers are charging an insane premium. So how do I know I'm not being scammed?
>>98450195>>98450168awesome thanks! Do you know where these are from?
>>98454989As long as it's useable I wouldn't give a shit tbqh. GW themselves sold stuff with double mold lines etc.Maybe just don't ever pay too much for something and you won't be disappointed
>>98454989>How do I know oldhammer on the second hand market are not recasts?There's no *absolute* way to tell, as the recaster can get more and more clever to cover his tracks in exactly the ways that you would use to figure out if he were a recaster in the first place ... but there are some signs to look for:1). The seller frequently has the same hard-to-find models for sale on multiple occasions. I could buy that you have one or maybe two Ventolin Pirates you're looking to offload, but you've sold eight in the last six months!2). The seller's models always look pristine, or are made of materials the originals would *not* have been made of. Citadel stopped casting Piscean Warriors before they switched to white metal. If your Sarharduin is not made of lead, it's a recast.3). The models have defects or features that are consistently in the wrong places. Bubbles, streaks, mis-matched mould lines ... if the originals didn't have them, why does yours?>So how do I know I'm not being scammed?I don't think it's possible to ever be 100% certain, but you could get into a high enough confidence level that you might feel comfortable spending a "reasonable" amount of money.>>98455457>As long as it's useable I wouldn't give a shit tbqh.This is actually not an unreasonable track to take. I'll likely never get my hands on a real Bedford Marine, so I'd be willing to buy a recast as long as the seller isn't asking for too much.
>>98454989I work on the principal anything that is clean white metal is a recast, especially if it doesn't have a base.Also see/ask for pics of the base and see if it is dated appropriately for the model. Look at what else they are selling and look for mounted models, most of these had unique metal horse heads so anything mounted should have the correct head. But anything with the horse head separate and no plastic horse I would assume is recast.
>>98455724>especially if it doesn't have a base.>Also see/ask for pics of the base and see if it is dated appropriately for the model.Wth do you mean by that
>>98455876If it doesn't have a base it's very likely to be a recast. All my models are either assembled, or stored with their base. Most wargamers are also autisimos so store things properly, especially 15+ year old models they've kept a hold of. Would you really still have the model but not the base if it was a legitimate model?Most GW metal models, and anything from Mail Order, stopped around 2008. Therefore if the model does come with a base, it should be dated 2008 or earlier. You can get super autistic and look for a date corresponding to the year the model was released give or take a few years. And the obvious check if the model still has it's tab and is in a slotta-base, rather than tab cut off and mounted on a standard base.Obviously none of this is fool proof, just my system. If it doesn't meet my autistic check list I won't pay more than recast prices for it.
>>98456116I'm not sure how ten-to-a-penny plastic bases prove anything about the metal they may or may not be glued to. That's a unique viewpoint.
>>98456160It's not about proof it's about balance of probabilities. Someone selling old models from their/a relatives collection is likely to be selling models either assembled on an era-appropriate base or still packaged with it's original base. Someone selling recasts is far more likely to be selling a bare metal model with no base, or a modern base. It would be more effort than it's worth to hunt down the right base for all the recasts and match them I would have thought.
>>98456160>>98456200Troll Trader, which to my knowledge is the largest retailer of used models who advertise their models as genuine seem too often sell lot of same somewhat rare models with exactly this kind of charasteristics which alert me about their genuity. Might as well go buy recasts at that point. I absolutely get the point of >>98455724 if hunting for real deal but when just assembling oldhammer army to play with this is what I do too >>98455457
>>98456492Basically the entire trade in oldhammer minis is done on trust. If someone wanted they could find original bases, slap a terrible paint job on a recasts with Airfix enamels and sell them as originals, or even go as far as finding original packaging. So even using my, or any other, autistic system is far, far from fool proof.So >>98455457 is the best way to go if not buying directly from recasters. Set yourself a price limit of what you'd happily pay and be happy to have the models you want.
>>98456160Are those old Space Ship bases? Weird that they used the clear flying bases for Battlefleet Gothic.
>>98459032Think they were for Space Fleet, before BFG.
>>98455405White dwarf before 1995 but into when they were only doing GW stuff. Don't have the hardcopy, before I was getting them so can't be more specific than that sorry. I got the images from here.
>>98455405>>98459921Those pages are from the 'Eavy Metal Modelling Guide. The companion book to the two painting guides, lots of nice ideas for kitbashing and light conversion work for mid-'90s army building. There's a full scan in one of the Mega links in the OP Pastebin, Blanche's CSMs are featured at the very end
>>98455405>>98459921The Citadel Miniatures Modelling Guide (part of the 'Eavy Metal series) Better track down yourself a pdf because it's rare as fuck as print copy. It's one of the other books that was along with the legendary how to build terrain book they made, and the others were painting guides (of which the 40k one was genuinely better than the fantasy one) but the modelling guide was full of how to do conversions stuff. All the basics of pinning and modelling putty and step-by-step of jamming bits of kits together to make new things, some of which regularly featured in the White Dwarf battle reports.Even just basic shit like how to spend a fuckton of money on a metal character figure to get a little moon for a plastic ork conversion. Or hack up 4 metal marines and a plastic bit to make a single captain (there's a great bit where someone has had to physically paint the sections of what to cut off on four models).It's still not the best, there's a degree of Draw the Rest of the Owl here and there and really you're basically supposed to study and practice for yourself. And with modern tools you can do a fuckload more, like clone shit with oyumaru cheaply, or use sprue-goo all over the place as a thing because now so much is plastic even if you're not using GW stuff. And oh fuck vehicle kits have come so far it's ridiculous.Basically what I am getting at is it's obsolete as a teaching tool but a nice artefact.
They did not fuck about when it came to pinning, look at the size of the brass rod in that. That's what they expected you to be doing if you wanted your shit to hold together.
>>98461311>>98461324My bad. I had figured it was WD from the blue eavy metal articles. Thanks.
>>98459060Loved those sword-shaped designs.
>>98461371In HH the Word Bearers have set of super-heavy Abyss class battleships. Don't think there's any official depictions of them, but they're described as trident-shaped ships.
>>98459060The clear flying bases look nice but those old ones really are usefull for status effects. Just because it was cheaper using the existing ones from 40k they changed to them.
I did know that some of the smaller generic ships for Space Fleet were from Citadel's Spaceships range. But I didn't know until now that GW bought that range off another company called QT
>>98461892http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/QT_Models_scifi_rangehttps://collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Spaceshipshttps://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Space_FleetAlso check out this tanker made of 4 separate pieces you put a ping pong ball between lel
>>98461892>>98461898I want to know where GW got the plastic sprue for the Epic Capitol Imperialis and Hellbore carriages. It's definitely an M113 APC track and lower hull, but I don't know of the scale or where it's from.
>>98422711A new member joins the Consortium
>>98464215>scalpel.... >...forceps >...CHAIN AXE
>>98464215bruv these are so good
>>98464254Thanks. When my night lord is done I'll start with the actual army. One of each thing from the 2-3E csm range.
>>98464313Some other guys from the army
>>98464482That is a fooking tasty Thousand Sons Marine, I know how tricky those dudes can be
>>98464482NANANANANANANANANAAAAAlso you gotta get Cypher up in that bitch for some proper 3e Chaos baiting shenanigans
>>98461910Same, it is a mystery as far as I'm aware
Are you allowed to put a ten man Traitors squad in a Chimera if there is a Chaos Marine Aspiring Champion leading them (meaning 11 models)?
>>98465612Looks like it to me as long as they're not in terminator armour. I think the guard codex has Chimera as 12 model max.
>>98465729>I think the guard codex has Chimera as 12 model max.It has but I'm not sure if the Champion is considered to be a part of the unit, that would bring it over the limit of 10.
>>98465729>as long as they're not in terminator armourwut?
>>98465745And by the limit of 10 I mean the limit specified by the Lost and the Damned list, not the Chimera carrying capacity.
>>98465745>>98465749>and not led by Champion in Terminator armour If the Champion isn't in Terminator armour, its allowed. The wording is pretty clear. I'd be fine to houserule terminator armour being okay if an ogryn is okay by taking up 2 model spaces personally. Its a lotd list, we're not playing some sort of super serious tournament.
>>98461324>>98461311>>98459921Perfect thank you for the help!I see your point in the teaching aspect but what I appreciate is the creativity and old skool feel in the modeling that is different from modern day conversions, very much in part because of the new techniques that as you've said, now dominate.
>>98464996I have him. Will get around to it eventually.
>>98465769You don't understand, it says "Traitor squads numbering 10 or less", I'm asking if 10 Traitors + 1 Champions is over the limit despite Chimeras having space for 12 models.
>>98466030Oh I get your boggle. It is not over the limit if the champion is not wearing terminator armour. >Traitor squads number 10 models or less AND not led by a Champion in Terminator armour MAY The champion is attached to the unit in addition to the base 10, the same way a Commissar is attached to an Armoured Fist unit. There wouldn't be any point to saying the Chimera has 12 spaces otherwise.
>>98461892>>98461898Weird that they bought model sculpts. They ar3 not that hard to design by their team.
>>98468173It's not completely unusual for early Citadel, they had a reciprocal relationship with Ral Partha in the USA to sell each other's miniatures.http://www.stunties.com/stunties/index.php?title=Citadel_-_The_Norwegian_DwarvesStuff like this too
>>98468231Ok, a joint venture makes sense.
>>98464215Fabulous Bill
Anybody saved that painting template of a 2nd edition marine?
>>98473994
>>98475135>MKVIIMy one true love
>>98473994Hard Mode. The art style is newer, more like the 3rd-5th ed era index astartes images but might be fun. >>98475152I am one of those perverts who likes MKV too much.
>>98475171>I am one of those perverts who likes MKV too much.I bet you're sticky to the touch
>>98475171>>98475135>aquila armour>named after the aquila on the chest>all versions have the imperialis or something else besides an aquila
>>98475217>named after the aquila on the chestKnowing 40k lore, it's actually named after Archmagos James Aquila.
Don't want to get doxxed but Bootleg BOYL was different gravy what a day
>>98475834Looks like a ton of fun. I mowed the yard in 95 degree heat today. I think you win.>Strongbow beerThe logo is not what remember from ~25 years ago, but I do remember the taste. First time I'd ever seen it at a pub in Edinburgh.
>>98475880You can't remember the taste of Strongbow very well if you think it's beer.
>>98475834>drinks on tableI bet you didnt even use coasters
>>98477438I assume they're American and were probably bamboozled and confused by the bevvy having any flavour at all.
>>98475834What are those weird colored animals. Chaos screamers?
>>98464482Pls post more pics, all of the pics
1/2 using old slaanesh champions as cultists for the next old world book hordes of chaos army. The magister is ai
2/2 all ai bow cultists based off the previous scans, and the magister based off an older champion
>AIcome to BOYL and we will beat you with hammers
>>98483636OK boomer
>>98483594>>98483614The height difference and style is weirdly noticeable before I even read the comments. Interested to see how they look painted and on the table though, its usually not as much of a thing for me once its at the stage and 3' away.
>>98483594>>98483614Honestly, pretty neat, I agree with >>98483673 lets see these painted up!
i want everything on this page how boned am i
>>98483856Eh, not very, you should be able to grab these from ebay and/or facebook B/S/S groups for a reasonable price if you're patient. If you've got access to a 3d printer you can find scans of these reasonably easily, too.
>>98483594>>98483614Those are all printed, right? I have a bunch of scans, but they aren't as sharp. Wondering if there are better ones floating around on the net.
>>98483594>>98483614God, the AI ones look crappy and out of place. Please don't post these again.
>>98485687Adorbs
>>98483594>>98483614Is the image AI or are the 3d models AI?
>>98484258I know you are living with a limited learning capacity, but the style I used is a choice not a limitation>>98485816Those are photos of my prints, ai was used to base tge archers on the hand weapon models which are scans, then the two wizard models are derivatives of other slaanesh models. Told it to make an oldhammer champion (the female one) more wizardy and told it to make the bull head guy (originally age of sigmar) more 80's. Simplifying things a bit.
>>98486867
Primer was a bit fuzzy on this one, but it's so old... I don't want to strip it.
How far back do we go before things qualify for GROG. Are 20 years enough? I'm painting some skull pass dwarfs and i just realized these miniatures were released exactly 20 years ago.
>>98486867What's the guy on the left?
>>98483614I dig these, as much as it shames me to admit it - any chance you'd be up for sharing them? I'd love to bulk out my realm of chaos goofy gang
>>98405119Looking at the 2e Ultrasmurfs Codex and it's interesting how all over the place Assault Squad options have been through the years>2e: Anything from the Assault weapons list>3e: Nevermind. Plasma Pistols only>4e: Oh and Flamers too>6/7e: But Blood Angels can take Meltas & Plasma Guns like the 3e Vet Assault Squad>Primaris: Fuck you only the Sergeant gets cool things
>>98495905Imagine how we all felt at the beginning of Third Edition when we had Death Company and Assault Squad models all armed with cool and crazy stuff from the close combat sprue. At least if your model hand a hand flamer, you could say it "counts as" that critical second close combat weapon.
>>98441470I could really go for some heavy weapon scrungs.
>>98429820I'm using LA on some old models and some of.them still keep the black primer. I've tried soaking a week and it just stays on. Did I get cursed with some foul auto primer or something that just won't go?
>>98499628see:>>98429820>It has issues with some of the really aggressive primers (old Citadel Chaos Black in particular).Several of the early Citadel rattlecans were actual etching primers. It burns into the material and dyes the surface of the model. If everything else is cleared off, then you can just reprime the model and roll with it. Dark Angel Green had the same thing going for a while, I have Battletech models where the tin is permanently dyed even after multiple acetone baths.
>>98480660Here is all I got so far
>>98500210>Raptors with wing backpacksI will never understand why they decided to give them backpacks. They look like orks now.
>>98502168NTAYRT but I love the 3rd edition ones even with backpacks
>>98502414They are kinda okay-ish but thats where it started.
>>98502414Does anyone know of Dawn of War made their raptors after this design or if they were designed to be like the DoW raptors?
>>98505184The minis came first, those Raptors were released in 2002
>>98505184I can't recall GW taking any designs from DoW for miniatures. Forge World however did take the Tau Orca from Fire Warrior and make a huge miniature
>>98505808Thats not an Orca, pic related is an Orca!Quite funny how often they give the same names to different vehicles.
>>98505892Guessing that's BFG Armada?The Tau actually had two different BFG fleets, one GW one FW.
>>98479770One of them is a 1:35 scale velociraptor from Tamiya, but I don’t remember that being a playable unit.>>98483594>>98483614>>98486867Nice. Which AI?
>proonter goes brrrrrr>3d scan hoarding/begging>AI slop miniaturesYou know what lads I'm done with you actual delinquents. Why can nobody on this board actually engage with anything earnestly, it's always through a layer of self fucking pity.I'm not saying pay scalper prices, fuck that completely. But go out and make friends and actually fucking DO these things jesus christ.I gave /grog/ the name grog and I'm done with it. Sorry to the few decent posters.
>>98505949Yes, it is from BFG.I dont know why FW did their own ships for Tau. But in the end GWs ships were the early ships and FW are ships made after their third expansions.
Been painting up my Warhammer Quest figures for a campaign I'm going to run. Only taken me 30 years....
Just the orc warriors, clanrats, bats and heroes left. Got to use some brass rod on the bats though as half of those little bastards had broken on me.
>>98506224As somebody who makes 3D models for fun it is quite exhausting.Do I upload my models for money? Yeah. Do I care about piracy? Not really as I'm kind of just paying for my own subscriptions and that's it.I find it exhausting because it's just the consumerization of the hobby. It's the same problem as "look at my kitbash" and it's an intentionally designed head swap or some half assed terrible gun swap. Personally I blame two things: the removal of wargear points and not gatekeeping hard enough. People just want that cheap high without putting work in. I think the proof for this is the fact they always just post unpainted models. It's no different than Funko collectors, no hobby all consumption.
>>98506224What is the point of this post?Are you mad people are not paying random dudes for OoP models and instead just 3D print them?
>>98506679clear difference between basically only obsessing over .stl hoarding; and at least printing retro .stls and painting them and playing with them
>>98506665>It's no different than Funko collectorsI already own the only Funko figure that I've ever wanted to spend money on.
OLDCRONS WOOOOOOOOhttps://youtu.be/u-Zk4CE9B4E
Am I blind or is the 2e chaos codex missing from the mega?
>>98507669I didn't see it either. We could both be blind.aHR0cHM6Ly9nb2ZpbGUuaW8vZC9CdUVjdU1sYg==
>>98506779>>98506224would you mind pointing out where the stl hoarding, 3d print glazing and AI slop minis with clearly no intention of gaming with them ran rampant in the thread, please?no, just one or two posts of each doesn't count at 227 posts
>>98509979I think the blue ones were from a later quasi-intro box called Space Marine Assault or something
>>98510881[Ed McMahon Voice]: You are correct, sir!It was an intro to Third Edition mini-game that came with a handful of Second Edition plastic cookie-cutter marines and a sprue of Genestealers.
6 Orc Warriors done for WHQ. Skaven Clanrats next.
>>98512298Lovely Orcs, Anon!
>>98461910FOUND IT MATEFrom a throwaway comment on a Facebook post where a guy's Capitol Imperialis had metal tracks. People were saying it's likely recast.Anyway, the tracks were from a JB Models M113 kit. You can see they match up. Apparently GW used to stock their kits too as well as using part for this.
>>98512505>t.
>>98512321Ah cheers mate. Glad someone likes them. Clan-rats next!
I'm almost finished with these guys, just missing the eyes and a few dot highlights.These miniatures were released exactly 20 years ago, in the summer of 2006.And if it weren't for this starter set i probably could have never afforderd to stick with the hobby as a broke teenager and would have likely stopped being involved with the hobby altogether.They might not be the best dwarfs out there, but definitely my favourite.
>>98513138Those look really well done. Feels crazy to think 2006 was two decades ago. I am glad you were able to build up your collection of Dwarfs, from what I have seen of you posting them.
>>98512298Healthy looking bois>>98513138These are sick, nice one anon
>>98506665what the fuck are you on about ?
>>98513351>>98513452Thank you anons. The dwarfs are actually now finished. I went on the rooftop terrace and just painted the afternoon away.
>>98514537You have me tempted to give the Dawi another look. Curse you and thank you equally, Blue and Green Anon.
>>98506224u will not be missed :^) Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out ! Also, see you tomorrow.
>>98407755Is that singer and actor John Tams? Wouldn't be shocked if he was a Warhammer guy, but that's the first I've heard of it.
>>98515140Over the hills and far away,Through Cadia, Armageddon, and Vraks,The Emperor commands and I obey,Over the Imperium and far away.I do always wonder if it's him too
Man, my Warboss always seems to get fucked in combat vs my friend's Chaos Lord (which isn't even fully kitted). Am I really just that bad or are 3E Warbosses + Nob squads just not that good? Hell, he even lets me improve it to T5, but that barely matters since I still gotta use T4 due to the majority of the mob being Nobs.
>>98518967Shouldn't the warboss be T5 at initiative 4? Unless you're all in mega armour. But yes chaos lords in 3rd with the updated codex could get nuts. Are you at least using the Chapter Approved sweeping advance rules? You can try tar pitting the chaos lord with a lot of grots, they're not going to win but they're not going to be outnumbered or below 50% for a while and with the reroll from a Squig Hound can keep the lord and company occupied for a few turns while you and the boyz go accomplish mission goals.
>>98519189He is in Mega Armour, but he's also T4 in the 3E Codex, which I'm using despite playing 4E.
>>98519497Yeah, was thinking to your earlier refernce about them letting your warboss be T5. No experience with the 4e ork codex, limited orks in 3rd, I any mostly looking at the codex and thinking of ways to have stopped my chaos lord. I was rolling mark of slaanesh, combat drugs and lightning claws. Just shoot that fucker. What's the chaos lord kitted out with?
>>98519562>What's the chaos lord kitted out with?Dark Blade, Strength and Mutation. I could technically one-shoot it with the Klaw, but he's got Chosen to sacrifice. I also cannot go higher than a Warboss + 5 Nobs since that's all I can fit into a Looted Chimera (WD clan rules).
>>98407755cute. my gf loves it.
>>98520869>looted Chimera Based Blood Axe. You have to be more cunningly brutal. Loot a Leman Russ, shoot the git.Put a grot mob in their way, 30 grots and a slaver with a squg hound for ld rerolls costs the same as just the Chaos lord, heck buy two. Tie up him and the Chosen squad for 2-3 turns. Going last against 5 or more st7 power weapon attacks is not going to work.
Whatcha guys think of this list for 4th edition black templars? I went for 2000 points at first but probably gonna try to trim down for 1500, what should I cut? Full list: 1998 pointsHQEmperor's Champion 90Accept any challenge no matter the odds +50Total: 200Marshal 80Power weapon +15Storm shield +10Adamantine mantle +35Artificer armor +20Terminator honors +15Master crafted (power sword) +15Bionics +5Teleport homer +5Total: 190 Master of sanctity 110Plasma pistol +15Artificer armor +20Bionics +5 Master crafted (crozius) +15Holy orb of Antioch +10Terminator honors +15TROOPSTotal: 151Crusader squad CCW+bolt pistols (free)5 initiates +805 neophytes +50Power fist +15Flamer +6Total: 141Crusader squad CCW+bolt pistols (free)5 initiates +804 neophytes +40Power fist +15Flamer +6Total: 146Crusader squadBoltguns+shotguns (free)5 initiates +805 neophytes +50Missile launcher +10Plasma gun +6ELITES: Total: 143Dreadnought 105Multi melta +10Venerable +20Extra armor +5Smoke launchers +3Total: 220Sword brethren terminators 5 terminators +200Heavy flamer +10Heavy flamer +10HEAVY SUPPORTTotal: 168 Vindicator 125Dozer blades +5Extra armor +5Power of the machine spirit +30Smoke launchers +3Total: 293Land raider crusader 265Blessed hull +25Smoke launchers +3Total: 148Predator annihilator 120Lascannons +25Smoke launchers +3DEDICATED TRANSPORTTotal: 58Rhino 50Smoke launchers +3Extra armor +5
>>98522266You've got more wargear than I tend to go for, things like the Adamantine mantle, bionics, etc. end up eating a few points. Are you planning on putting all three HQ in the crusader with the terminators? Why not just give them terminator armour at that point? You're low on long range anti tank, so if you had to I'd be inclined to either keep the pred and get rid of the dred and vindicator, which goes against my desire for cool shit. Could skip the pred and put a twin lascannon on the dreadnaught. Could condense a Crusader squad to 10 marines, 5 neonates and an extra spot for a character, load them into the crusader. The squad numbers as is now are a bit off if you only have one rhino and 2 ccw squads.
>>98522773My plan was to have the marshal and EC with the big melee squad in the land raider and the 9 with the chaplain in the rhino. Deep strike the terminators with that teleport homer from the marshal.
>>98522805Got it. I'd be inclined to take a few less toys and get the melee squad going in the crusader up to 14 models for more bodies. If you need to do 1500 you can pull the footslogger crusader squad, dred and one of the tanks depending on what you're facing.
>>98522848I've never actually played yet, just planning out my list and what to get. How much will I regret only having 2 troop units? I hear troops are quite important cause they're the only scorers here.
>>98522860>I hear troops are quite important cause they're the only scorers here.Don't know where you got that idea from.The SM/BT codexes even have an exception for land raiders taken as dedicated transports.
>>98522860Varies by the mission quite a bit. There was some focus on Troop choices specifically for Cleanse missions but most of the other options have different descriptions that are less specific. Trying the different missions, or even rolling it randomly, is a lot of fun.
>>98522848And are dreds good? I've heard they're somewhat of a mixed bag, I figured with venerable and extra armor he'd be a bit more useful. >>98523060Oh I thought they were the only ones that could capture objectives but I might have misread. >>98523136Ah okay, yeah that must be what I was thinking of, that makes sense then.
Sorry to be that faggot, but where can I find old pieces like this? The M3g@ is nice but it's missing a lot of OH/MH stuff. I just want an old Carnifekz and Maranus Calagari.
>>98523157Mine always got shot to pieces in short order but mine was covered in spikes and I didn't have a lot of other heavy stuff to draw fire. Never ran one with venerable, might help. Overall I think they're cool but slow so I'd be hesitant to give it a short range weapon unless you're playing missions where it makes sense. All that being said, when we were kids we just went with what we had and rolled missions anyway, didn't always work out.
>>98523161From ebay James
>>98523669That joke doesn't work with my post though
>>98523157>Oh I thought they were the only ones that could capture objectives but I might have misread.That's a rule from the late 4e fan tournament scene that finally got codified in 5e or 6e as core rules. Specifically designed to keep WAAC-fags from taking two five-man units of Scouts or grunt marines with Razorbacks and then maxing out all the other spaces on the force org chart
>>98524244Sorry we don't deal in stls
>>98522126>Loot a Leman Russ, shoot the git.Already on it. Bought a 2003 LR Demolisher, metal cannon and all, from my hobby shop (they stock loads of old kits).Sadly it's on hold since I ordered a bunch of 3D printed bits to properly orkify it, but the guy that prints for me is on holiday right now so the bits will still take some time.
>>98525766>Str 10 AP2 Pieplate Get em. Post pics of your demolisher when its kitted out.
>>98525586>weShut the fuck up you retarded ebay extortionist cunt
>>98525586>LyingFor what purpose
>>98523161Telegram obviously
>>98525586There is no need to be a little bitch
>>98506665>>98506224Lmaaaaooooo these bona fide grandpas really crashed out frfr get shrekt lmaooooo>I INVENTED GROG>I AM LE EXHAUSTED>WAAA WAAAAAAALike when did I ask lmaoo no-one cares unc llllllamaaaaaaaoooooooo HAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>98527891Telegram is kill.
>>98527893Looks like that guy's been in the pyramid for a bit too long
>>98527929All of the groups I'm in are still operating correctly. Maybe you should get better ones.
>>98528141>Muh seekrit clubFucking spastic, hang yourself.
>>98528249Stay mad, faggot :^)
>>98528141>anon thinks because it has not happen to him is not happeningNo wonder Modern 40k is so popular, even the grogs are retarded.
starting to think >>98506224 has a point about most of you mostly being more bothered about pirating scans than actually using pirating as a tool to paint and play more IRL
I'll confess that I've not watched it yet but the algorythm has delivered unto me an actual fucking Rogue Trader battle report (from a streamed game) for once and not a 2nd edition 40k one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gH0gGfHr6ACool looking board at least.
>>98528414stop samefagging you pathetic wretch
>>98527937>Looks like that guy's been in the pyramid for a bit too longI had most of my Third Company Blood Angels army, which ranges from Rogue Trader to Fifth Edition, out on my Armies on Parade board for years. I took to covering it with a big black plastic contractor bag to keep the dust off, and some still managed to find a way in there.I packed it all up and put it away when our foster cat decided he liked to be at the tallest point in my hobby room. After this picture, there were about a dozen casualties.Unrelated to that episode, he might be going home to his family this weekend.
>>98527929Pick better groups without public invites that get spammed everywhere else They can be replaced as easily as they are taken downI seeded my grog packs on there hopefully they spread to everywhere
>>98530458As an addendum, don't just find a single group and expect it to always be there. Find smaller, more niche groups, some are dedicated to specific factions or systems, and even if there might be some overlap in files, you have the security of knowing that not all of them can be DMCA'd in a single strike.Learn how to archive too. If you find a file you like or seems interesting, immediately send it to your saved messages, even if the group is deleted you'll retain access to it in your saves. It takes literally no storage space and at most three seconds.Finally, don't expect to be spoonfed and moan about secret clubs or whatever. Most people have spent a good amount of time and effort getting to the good groups, you're kind of expected to be part of the community, not just a beggar looking for a quick fix.
>>98530581em's roight
>>98530581you're kind of expected to be part of the community, not just a beggar looking for a quick fixMan this is such horseshit, but at least you faggots are now openly admitting that you do this stuff to feel some tiny empty shred of control in your sad little lives and have dropped the pretense that you're doing it to "protect" things.Imagine being given a way to endlessly share with zero risk to yourselves and no ability for corpos to shut you down permanently and immediately reinventing the Sekret Klubhouse faggotry of recasting, which at least had the figleaf of recasters being actual physical businesses that could be sued. And you know damn well that you didn't work for fuck all, when you got into those groups it was as simple as searching for shit in the app and walking in, now you've all vanished up your own bumholes, gone private, and expect people to psychically divine criteria for entry you won't reveal to places that literally cannot be found without a direct invite. Bunch of ladder-pulling poofters.
>>98530581>>98531363Excuse me what does this have to do with the Oldhammer movement can you move along to /3dpg/ please thank youI wouldn't mind if you cunts were actually posting yourself having painted this stuff
>>98531393Needs a little slug crawling out of his cracked cranium.
>>98530581>If you find a file you like or seems interesting, immediately send it to your saved messagesnta, but right click copy msg link or forward?
>>98506481Dude, it's never too late for WarhammerQuest.Pic are mine.
So I've been building a 2nd ed eldar army thats mostly Iyanden. This is where im up to.
>>98531511Ah they are fantastic! I like the swapping of the two colours to tie them together but also make them look different. Once I've got the lot done I'll post them all up. Also managed to get the STLs of the core set, the two expansions and all the warrior packs.
>>98531393Mostly because no one wants to buy an overpriced model from a brit hoarding shit like it was some kind of reasonable investment
>>98531510Forward, the first choice will be your save messages>>98531363>Man this is such horseshitIt's sad that you feel this way. I would also love for the files to be publicly available, but that's just not the case. Things used to be a lot more open until the Indian resellers popped up some time ago. >zero risk to yourselves and no ability for corpos to shut you downSadly not the case either. Most of the good scans are paid. It takes time and money to get ahold of rare models to scan and a good setup to do so. GW can and has infiltrated groups to get the payment info on scanners and legally threat them using it.>Inb4 "scans should be free then"A large chunk of them are, some have been freely released by their authors, many more have been leaked from private groups. >it was as simple as searching for shit in the app and walking inExcept it wasn't, again, interacting and becoming part of the community is not just me spewing bullshit, it's how I've been finding my way into groups. There's a big difference between being a reasonable, trustworthy human being and someone coming in, asking for gibs and hoping to get everything they're looking for within the hour. Amicable guests tend to get invited to more places.>>98531393Right, let's get back to posting the same 5 pictures that always get posted on this thread with no commentary whatsoever, that's the true spirit of /grog/!
>>98532228>Right, let's get back to posting the same 5 pictures that always get posted on this thread with no commentary whatsoever,lel yeah that guy can post the same pics of his crusty Blood Angels for the 10-millionth time
>>98531535Most people don't know I also have a Panzee army. They haven't seen a real game since Third Edition.I wish they looked as good as yours, anon.
>>98531393>What do oldhammer models have to do with oldhammer?censorship? on my 4chan? more likely than you think
>>98532228>Forwardthx
>>98532622Cheers anon.I started in 1997 and stopped playing towards the end of 7th, but I've been on a quest to repaint my old eldar to play 2nd and 3rd with the local grogs. Even tracked down a revenant.
>>98532644Where are the miniatures all I'm seeing is Discord-type dwellers (pædo and furry adjacent) mewling at each other.
What's your fav weird, odd or wonderful mini anon?
>>98533908
>>98533908>What's your fav weird, odd or wonderful mini anon?Is this a trick question?
>>98533908Hmmmmm good question on the odd front.This guy was John Blanche's first fully sculpted miniature for GW, as late as the early 90s, and he said it gave him a huge appreciation for the sculptors lel.
>>98533960Johnny combo!Post your Johnnies, anons
>>98532316I enjoy looking at his blood angels 20 million plus infinity times. Shitposters on the other hand...
>>98532644
>>98506481>>98506483>>98506492>>98506492>>98506483>>98506492>>98506499>>98506503Beautiful stuff anon :D
>>98532316>>98534297>lel yeah that guy can post the same pics of his crusty Blood Angels for the 10-millionth timeFunny you should say it that way, anon. I ended up packing most of them away in one of the old-fashioned Citadel carrying cases after the incident I described in >>98528703. I usually just pick a photograph out of my "My Blood Angels" folder when we get close to page 10 to bump us back up to the top.So, in honour of your request, here's a brand-new never-before-seen picture of my crusty Blood Angels to keep us off page 10. Actually, it might get us that much closer to the bump limit.>>98534326I would love to play whatever game that ends up being... Heroquest, Talisman, 3rd Edition WHFB, or ...?
>>98534647I like the use of a Grey Knights falchion on far left. You have nice Bangles, Anon.
>>98533908Ugh... so many to choose from. Even if I limit myself to dwarfs, i can't think of less than 25+ that are definitely up there.
>>98520869>but he's got Chosen to sacrificeThat's not how it works in the 3rd edition, since he is a character you can choose to direct your attacks at him specifically as long as your warboss (or any model with klaw) is in base contact. The only problem is that he can also direct his attacks at your Warboss.
>>98522773>Could condense a Crusader squad to 10 marines, 5 neonates and an extra spot for a character, load them into the crusader.You can only fit 15 marines in a Crusader.
>>98532075I collected a lot of random Minis over teh years to substitute a few Heros. I'm especially happy with this Dark Eldar Wych turned female Wardancer.
>>98533908Well, it's not Oldhammer, but I'd love to someday get a legit Kroot Bird mini.
>>98536544>That's not how it works in the 3rd editionIndeed, but if you follow up the trail of replies you'll see me mentioning playing 4E with the 3E codex.You can sac the bodyguard in 4E.
>>98536556My bad, I was thinking the 8 terminators were direct 1:2 for power armour marines.
New thread:>>98538272>>98538272>>98538272
>>98535466That's cool
