death world art editionPrevious heresy>>98390875>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/1accdP>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>TQ who's your favorite traitor character (yourdudes included)
>>98408782>>TQAhriman. Such a great tragic story about trying to do the right thing and saving those you care about, yet only making things worse in the end.
>>98408782the hero of the imperium (even as he helped sunder it) and mankind at large (forever)
tested a couple of missions I had planned for an event>player 1 has to get to the escape zone at the end of the game and scores points depending on how many infantry survive>player 2 only scores from attrition and preventing the enemy warlord from extractingturn 1
>>98409009vs last turn
>>98409015>JewelryMust be the store tranny.
>>98409021bro really thinking about troons all the time
>>98409037cringe
Got to take my destroyers out for a spin for the first time. It was using that super small game rules pack someone made (limit on unit pts costs, no high command, limit on line scoring). They didnt dissapoint, 5 destroyers took out 20 solar aux in one turn.
Source on these chosen's armour pretty please?
>>98408782talk me out of using these sorcerer heads for my chaos converted indomitus squad. I know they’re not lore accurate, but I dig the mandalorian/spartan-esque look.
>>98409015God I really want an army using dreadclaws and Kharybdis but I've heard the assembly is only slightly less nightmarish compared to the storm eagle and mastodon
>>98409240Dark Angels deathwing companions
>>98409287GW is too afraid to release plastic HH flyers and dreadclaws, because they know they'd never be able to keep up with demand.
There's still a ton of detailing I want to do but I'm finished painting for the weekend, pretty happy with how much the model has progressed over two days.
>>98409394mucho sexois it from WT or FW ? i'm thinking of buying one but i don't know how i'd store it
>>98409404Thank you anon, it's a recast I bought for 200 CAD from my buddy who gave up halfway through assembling the legs.Magnetizing is definitely the way to go for storage, the legs, torso, all weapons, and head break apart and I can fit all of it into a big plastic bin with no issues.Gorgeous reaver anon, I've been thinking of getting either a chaos reaver for my mech or a warbringer I'll paint for my loyalist buddy.
>>98409394This is the psy-titan?
>>98409445That's what it used to be yeah, decided to move away from the ordo sinister to fit with my daemon engines.
>>98409552Just make it the chaos witch-titan of legio /yourdudes/
>loyalists from traitor legionsthis is always super gay
>traitors from loyalist legionsthis is always super kino
>Traitors from traitor legionsThe only armies worthy of respect
>>98409572I just think it's overdone. Makes it seem like the traitor legions had more loyalists than traitors at this point and makes the loyalists almost losing look hilariously pathetic.>>98409576Honestly love the idea and several legions have plenty of reasons to have traitors in their ranks.
>>98409594It's just always been bizarre to me because plenty of traitors had good reasons to turn their backs on the imperium, but there's almost never a reason to be loyal to them beyond "I was already loyal so I guess I'll keep doing it", especially for the more moralfag primarchs like Corax, Sanguinius, and Vulkan. Almost all of them also understood that the Imperium would ruin the quality of life/freedom on their worlds, so they specifically made sure their worlds got exemptions while proceeding to go and conquer a bunch of others. Like at least Lion was morally consistent and turned Caliban into a sweatshopThe only traitor legions that really feel like they should have any sizable amount of loyalists are the World Eaters and the Iron Warriors. And I hesitate to truly believe that about IW because "Loyalist Iron Warriors" is like the most reddit legion choice available, but Perty is a huge dick so at least it makes sense
the new prepainted terrain looks pretty decent until you actually look at it close up
>>98409677
>>98409639it looks like all loyalists stopped thinking beyond "they started the beef and stabbed us in the back"; which is a very valid argument
>>98409677>>98409682What the actual fuck
>>98409677that's a weird effect; archon studio did theirs betterstill better than MDF L-shapes i've seen for 40ki hope i get to paint these for the shop
>>98409639>but there's almost never a reason to be loyal to them beyond "I was already loyal so I guess I'll keep doing itNot specifically for the traitor legions, but the way I understand the khans reasoning seemed quite good for that.Yes, the imperium is shit and theres good reasons to turn on it, but what the traitor legions turned into is clearly worse. Theyre a "good cause" done so poorly that you cannot justify going through with it. Thats sort of the tragedy of it all, even if you want "better", if you see the imperium for how monstrous it is. Whats the alternative? Horus's chaos empire?
>>98409677>>98409682I don't like it. hope they don't stop making actual terrain in favor of this ugly made for tourneyfags shit
>>98409959Lotta people fail to understand that the Grimdark is all about having to do terrible things and make horrible choices, because the alternatives are even worse. There are no "right" choices, there is no "good" side.Always loved this quote from the Emperor that exemplifies that foundational truth of the setting:>There are monsters, and then there are the monsters we create to fight them. They are the same. The difference is simply a choice of how we see ourselves.
>>98409975They obviously wont, this is just so lazy 40pigs can play with painted terrain for a change.
>>98409959The problem to me is that the alternative option is presented as too clearly a bad thing so early on. Obviously chaos is the worse of the two, but something from the original book describing the heresy basically mentions how Mortarian and Angron (given as examples) never thought they were doing anything other than fighting to save the soul of humanity due to Chaos' corrupting influence
>>98409639>I hate the Emperor but I hate Perturabo even more
>>98409677>>98409682Unironically looks like film grain which could be a cool effect but sure as hell shouldn't be default or true for prepainted terrain.
>>98409992Its like most of the setting is bioweapons run amok. Astartes are bioengineered weapons, orks were, tyranids might be. Even the imperiums humans were probably bioengineered at some point. At least i headcanon
>>98410567iirc fenrisians are confirmed genetically altered during the Age of Technology to make them capable of surviving on Fenris, would be very weird if they were the only human population to be bio-engineered to at least some degree
>>98410599We know there were a ton of examples of it, fenrisians are just most popularly known. The dorn novel had a human population who were at some point genetically modified by a xeno species for ambiguous reasons, but by the time they were encountered the the xenos were long gone. they got exterminated because of that modification - not because of the modification itself, but that it was done by xenosThere's also votann for a dark age of technology human offshoot who are all genetically modified on an individual level, with a basic set to make them far better at surviving the environments of the setting. It would make sense if most humans were similarly modified, albeit not individually, and that's why so many can survive things like 20 hour shifts 7 days a week and still make babies
>>98409394Two days!? Fukken wicked.
>>98409677>>98409682holy helli am completely fascinated and entranced and repulsed at the same time
trying to squeeze as much as possible out of half a saturnine box (praetor+3x termi, 25x tacs, rapier) for a stripped down zm list to learn alongside my buddyon paper(sats together, herald/champ w/ despoilers, cent w/ terror squad, rapier and seekers solo) do these units make basic sense spread out over a board? still wondering about centurion and terror squad sizePraetor in Saturnine Terminator Armour [230 Point(s)]: One Apex Detachment• 1x Saturnine Praetor [30 Point(s)]: Saturnine war axe, Saturnine concussion hammer [10 Point(s)], Plasma blaster [10 Point(s)], Trophies of Judgement [10 Point(s)]Centurion [135 Point(s)]: Escaton power claw [25 Point(s)], Lightning claw [10 Point(s)], Cyber-familiar [10 Point(s)], Vexilla [10 Point(s)]Herald [110 Point(s)]: Headsman's axe [10 Point(s)], Prime Unit (Paragon of Battle)Legion Champion [105 Point(s)]: Volkite serpentaTerror Squad [265 Point(s)]:• 1x Headsman [15 Point(s)]: Chainglaive [5 Point(s)], Disintegrator pistol [10 Point(s)]• 7x Executioner [23 Point(s)]: Chainglaive [5 Point(s)]• 1x Executioner [23 Point(s)]: Flamer [5 Point(s)]• 1x Executioner [23 Point(s)]: Rotor cannon [5 Point(s)] Prime Unit (Logistical Benefit (LB - Support))Rapier Battery [60 Point(s)]: Rapier Crew [60 Point(s)] (Graviton cannon [20 Point(s)])Saturnine Terminator Squad [215 Point(s)]:• 1x Saturnine Terminator Sergeant [5 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist w/ Particle shredder [5 Point(s)], Plasma bombard• 2x Saturnine Terminator [65 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist w/ Particle shredder [5 Point(s)], Plasma bombardSeeker Squad [105 Point(s)]:• 1x Seeker Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Kraken bolter• 4x Seeker [18 Point(s)]: Kraken bolterVeteran Despoiler Squad [145 Point(s)]:• 1x Veteran Despoiler Sergeant [10 Point(s)]: Pair of lightning claws [10 Point(s)]• 4x Veteran Despoiler [28 Point(s)]: Pair of lightning claws [10 Point(s)] Prime Unit (Master Sergeant)
What was the pre-Corax RG called? Are there any depictions of their scheme? What about the Terran groups after RG was reformed, did they wear the same scheme as regular RG or did they have special markings?
>>98410735>Terror Squad [265 Point(s)]:>• 1x Headsman [15 Point(s)]: Chainglaive [5 Point(s)], Disintegrator pistol [10 Point(s)]>• 7x Executioner [23 Point(s)]: Chainglaive [5 Point(s)]>• 1x Executioner [23 Point(s)]: Flamer [5 Point(s)]>• 1x Executioner [23 Point(s)]: Rotor cannon [5 Point(s)]Good man!For the sats? I would run them as command squad, and their main draw is the particle shredders.
>>98410750i think they were just the nineteenth/XIX brobut they were also sneaky beaky cunts from the beginning it sounds like too so maybe they wouldn't be too much of a priority to brand with any flashy sort of name atop
>>98410750default color scheme for early crusade XIX legion is just gray, probably with a variety of chapter specific markings. there doesn't seem to have been a formal name for the legion, but they had some nicknames like "pale nomads" and "dust clad", and some chapters like the ashen claws had fairly well established titles before they met their primarch.
>>98410756didnt even register i could hit the command squad via champ's detachment, many thanks:D
>>98409677>>98409682If it was budget terrain that would be forgivable, but this shit is typical GW prices and the moldlines aren't really incorporated into the design in a clever manner to offset that.
>>98409677>>98410756>their main draw is the particle shredders.Alright anon I love shitting on retards and newspapers running durdly saturnine bricks as much as the next guy but let's not pretend saturnine command squads don't hit like a truck and take a hell of a beating back once you get them in a transport.
Had a few ZM games over the weekend. Was a lot of fun, but fuck I'm bad at the game. Lost every single game, some close but some an absolutely one sided shit show.
>>98409992>Kill a murderer, and the number of monsters remains the same.>It's like potato chips, you see. Can't stop at just one. Kill all you can!Space marines cease to be immoral killers (which they are) when they fighting inhumans and traitors, which have no human rights.I shall feel no pity for devils or daemons.
>>98410134This. Chaos looks ugly nad spiky because GW needs children to know which side is evil at a glance. Which is weird, because it is adults playing with toys, not children.Let chaos look noble, beautiful and alluring. Loyalists already look unwashed or monstrous at times, so it's not unreasonable why people would tempted by chaos.
>>98409240anymore pics of these?
>>98409221Brutal
>>98410971Nah chaos will always look ugly because they lack virtue and this will reflect on them inside out. You sound like a heretic posting like that, pic related is your fate unless you turn back. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
>>98410971Chaos was given spikes to appeal to the (mentally) 13-year old manchild fanbase who want to play the kind of warriors they see on their heavy metal album covers.
>>98410971i love the rogue trader aesthetic of the imperium. Some of the early depictions of space marines where they look like hideous gigeresque monsters is abject kino>>98411023>pretty = good and ugly = badmindset of an 8 year old girl
>>98411023Rejecting chaos out of disgust instead of conviction holds no virtue. Reject chaos because it's your duty, not because it's merely ugly.
do any of (you) model satties with bare heads?
do we have any in depth descriptions or depictions of Luna? I think depicting the lunar surface on my SoH's bases would be neat thematically, but I dunno that much about the moon in 30/40k
>>98410971AOS slaanesh absolutely demolishes emperor's children in 40k, which is very unfortunate. It's not like they go all in on them being beautiful but better exemplify the beauty mixed with the mutation. All space marines should be ugly by default and then only thousand sons and SOME blood angels can be prettyI like how one of the first artistic depictions of Ultra Marines (as it was spelled at the time) was them having captured squats to use as slaves. GW would never show the blue boys doing that now
>>98411132 (me)>thousand sonsemperor's children. no idea how i did that
>>98410971People are only tempted by chaos if they're retarded, literally brain damaged. >Yeah bro there's a voice in my head that promises me everything I ever wanted if I just start killing people
>>98411139most marines have already been killing people though
>>98411054>>98411068Physiognomy is real. Spiteful mutants are real. Disgust is healthy.
>>98411069satties?
>>98411150Yes but for the Emperor, for the protection and glory of mankind, important difference.
>>98411286and the emperor made a deal with chaos, ergo they do it for chaos, simple as
>>98411279>i don't want to eat the brussel sprouts because they're ICKYBAPniggers really are just toddler brained, kekaroo!
>>98411150Yeah, at the behest of their commanding officers and primarchs in the service of the glorious reconquest of the galaxy, not because a lady in his head called him studmuffin
>>98411332>kill shit>voice offers to make you better at killing shit>you then proceed to get better at killing shit>kill shit (for khorne)i mean even that faggot dorn had to struggle to not get corrupted
Red for the glaives too much?
>>98410892What happened anon, what did you bring?
>40K fluff about a named character>they did some cool shit for their Chapter >HH fluff about a named character >they did some cool shit for their Legion and they were secretly the cause of a schism within the Legion but they were a secret loyalist and they made a Custodes laugh and they had a special power that only they and their secret twin had and they took on a new name and they had an insider at the Mechanicum who gave them an archeotech that not even a Primarch would have and andWhy is it like this.
>>98411523Black library books aren't a valid source of fluff
>>98411408I LOVE how the one glaive has an extra chain bayonet attached to it, thats cute
>>98411408Try it on the sergeant and see if its too much. Otherwise I think they could use a little more red but I agree that it might be too much on the glaives
>>98411408What about hazard stripes on the glaives? Won't pop like red but it will still add some needed spash of color to the unit
>>98411557>>98411558>>98411562I’ll test the stripes on one then prolly! Maybe just the Sargent will get a little more red on there. I built these dudes forever ago and someone here suggested the little bayonet at the bottom lol
>>98411523kek it actually is like thisi was thinking this exact thing as someone mentioned some word bearer, barthusa nerek or whatever, and i googled it and it was some insane bullshit about him being a loyalist who also worked for eldrad to assassinate members of the cabal and shit like that
>>98409677>>98409682If I understood correctly, the technology to "paint" these are small dropplets of colored (resin?), think like "pixels of paint"
>>98411557>>98411560Sick
>>98411281fatty satties, satter 9s. since they don't come with faces and their physiology is yet unclear i wondered if anyone chose to give them faces anyway
>>98411523>>HH fluffIf we go by your definition of fluff then 40k has a guy that shoots ropes to a callidus morphed into a genestealer, was part of the illuminati and was one of the handful of humans that spoke to the emperor in 40k. He also fought Hydra.
>>98409594>I just think it's overdone. Makes it seem like the traitor legions had more loyalists than traitors at this point and makes the loyalists almost losing look hilariously pathetic.1/3 of the emperor's children were killed on istvaan for being known loyalists, this wouldn't have wiped out all the closet loyalists. Turns out that just because you're the supreme general doesn't mean all your boys are down with the revolt, and the loyalist armies having a lot of traitors would be stupid is because the whole point of betraying the emperor was due to the legion being more loyal to the primarch in the first place.
>>98409639>plenty of traitors had good reasons to turn their backs on the imperiumsuch as having your dick turned into a tentacle with eyeballs or because daddy was mean to you?>I hesitate to believeAre you autistic or something. It should be obvious a legion where the primarch was widely disliked due to his autism and killing his own guys randomly would have a lot of "I don't want to die because my primarch is retarded" guys. You're theo ne coming up with tremendously autistic reasons as to why people should randomly join chaos.
>>98409572
>>98410134>too clearlyBecause chaos is bad, and obviously so, and it's supposed to be bad. This is not an argument of greys. Perturabo specifically did not want chaos shit in his army even as he betrayed the emperor.
>>98411054>pretty = good and ugly = badObjectively correct.
>>98411691redditors favourite
>>98410846>200 bucks for some slop gw sharted out, would you like more slop with that?I'm more offended that every single product and value box they've produced in the last year has been worse and worse value than the previous. You can feel the squeeze on your wallet in real time as everything costs 10% more than it would have a year ago, the cunts.
>>98411695I'll accept your concession.
>>98410018>>98409975The new kill team box already does not have the terrain pictured on the box, but instructions of how to facsimile it using construction paper. The box is more expensive than the previous one and comparatively more expensive than similar ones from 2 years ago that actually contained terrain. They absolutely are going the Total Enshittification route combined with price inflation with their products.
>>98411697This box is 165 USD.Grim. Dark, even.
>>98411697Did you hear about the Baneblade now having its sponsons sold separately from the full kit, which is still the same price? They keep finding ways.
>>98411689No, anon, I hesitate to believe it because Loyalist Iron Warriors are peak normie redditor Legion choice, even though they're one of the few where I can also go "yeah they have a good reason to hate their primarch". It's just a matter of the people who like them being super annoying.
>>98411704But they didn't remove the ones already in the box, right?
>>98411712The full kit was delisted temporarily and then re-added to the store, if you check the official site URL it says 2026. Obviously if there's already a Baneblade kit at a store in the past month or so then yeah, they shouldn't retroactively be missing sponsons.
>>98410599>>98410567Nearly the entirety of the unification wars armies had one form or another of "gene-warriors" roughly similiar but much shittier than marines according to BL slop. No human on Terra had DNA that wasn't changed in one form or the other by tampering, biological warfare, disease or mutation and one of the first thing Emps did was restore humanity's DNA as it was during the daot. During the crusade he used terrans because of their pure human dna as settlers in the various conquered planets so they could interbreed with and eventually help the strains of humanity living there get genetically closer to what they were actually supposed to look like.
>>98411692>Obviously soNot really. You're not smarter, more noble, or more strong-willed than a primarch.
>>98410750From the Black Book 3, it states that they had no official name but they were informally called the Pale Nomads or Dust Clad
>>98411112Looks the same but it has a huge armoured ring filled with guns, torpedoes and hangars around it and a bunch of gene-cultists on the surface.
>>98411722me when emprah sets me up with the catgirls of Cathar VI due to my unvaxxed semen.
>>98409992Emps is a retard and the last person I would get advice from, especially advice like "we did what we had to" when he gave chaos hundreds of thousands of super humans and half a dozen demigods and put other retards in charge like erda despite being able to see the future. Also we saw an alternative that isn't le grimderp in the interex.
>>98411132Such kino art
>>98411732I assume like most infrastructure and buildings and stuff would be underground, but I'd expect there's still a decent amount of stuff on the surface? it's right on terra's doorstep, so it would be odd if it wasn't pretty thoroughly industrialized, fortified and settled over the millennia, when even shitty little rocks like Pheobe are settled and industrialized.
>>98411703And you just know it'll sell out. Not only because GW paypigs eat up anything they put our, but they consistently underproduce boxes so that an item running out makes it seem popular.
>>98412160that's a starter box that will stay in production for years, I think.
>>98409221Shit terrain m8, barely a leg up from >>98411703
>>98408782this might be a stupid question, but I assume this is an iron halo?
>>98412460It's just a decorative bit. Not everything is about game rules.
>>98409677>>98409682okay fuck itcould anyone enlighten me on what fel fucking manufacturing process i'm seeing here?this is absolutely strange i've never seen anything like itis it a form of FDM or something?
>>98411695>>98409572Get fucked traitor scum
>>98411291I don't care about that gay jew.
>>98411408Terror squad? Nice paintjob!
>>98412632Yesir! Had them on the back burner a while, nice to get working on them again.
>>98412519standard sprue but it's being spray painted by a machine, possibly assembled by a machine but idk; the paint is like that for the same reason print images (as in, printed on paper) are composed of dots to make up shade and color; it's meant to be looked at from a distance, not photographed up close like a Golden Demon entryprobably relatively cheap to do since it uses I expect the same tech they're using for GI Joes or whatever; probably got the idea from working with JoyToy, or were pitched it by themearly days (obviously the flash trimming leaves a lot to be desired) but... not the worst outcome? maybe something they're trying out and are committed to n+ units of, like those awful 40k drop pods, so they've got to sell them to see what people will put up withif nothing else it'll turn some LGS tables into better terrain, god knows there's some shit out there that makes you wish for being a kid using piles of books and whatever
Come on guys someone's gotta have scanned the zone mort rules by now
>>98411894Iirc sons of the selenars mentions domes and one of the black books mentions an entire ex-selenar fortress that's staffed by SoS.
>>98412755Forgot to add but most productions happens in the orbital ring(s?). There are also extensive subterranean networks which the Luna Wolves storm near the end of the unification wars so that Emps could get more marines ASAP.
>>98412753someone already posted it anon
>>98410871Just DS them in. Teleport in, fire a bunch of AP3 shredding breaching(?) flamers and then punch whats left. Maybe saying "biggest draw" in absolute terms is wrong, but I think the shredders are absolutely an enormous part of what makes the unit work, theyre an incredible weapon (bonus points for NL, where you can shred and then react to run away, allowing you to charge the next turn (after firing two more times).
>>98412369>Shit terrain m8Yea, it wasnt painted but the quantity was very solid. Felt like a real city with restricted LoS and cramped quarters.Hardly a cinematic table, but it was good enough for a couple of quick 750pts games (my opponents army wasnt fully done, but those ogryn are apparently a nightmare and hes just started working on some aux for an event soonish).
>>98411686If the only reason to revolt is because Primarch said so than traitors shouldn't have had that many loyalists. Also plenty of legions had reasons to side with Horus>Older elements of Dark Angels and Raven Guard being sidelined>Iron Hands thinking Manus (and by extension the emperor) is weak and should be replaced>White Scars had close ties to Horus and could easily have fleets far from core imperial authority deciding to side with Horus before full intel about how Khan sides is givenAlso LOL, 9.5 loyalist legions barely managed to hold the line against about 8.5 (generally smaller and understrength) traitor legions.
>>98412856Got yerself a sasig roll, m8?
>>98412897Wasnt mine, guy who was watching our game was an old timey player (from around 2nd ed 40k) who was interested in how HH played. I went home and had breakfast after the games.
>>98409037Why would some nazi be wearing such fag jewelry?Get fucked into being a queer in prison?
>>98412753Check a few threads back. Easy to find if you know what to look for.
>>98409572This is correct.Also IF, BA, UM, SA, SW, or RG traitors.These are the only acceptable legions to swing both ways IHALWSDAIW (despite the crime of the hideous early hhg loyalist IW everywhere)Everyone else was cut and dry after Istvaan III and the Dropsite Massacre.Anything else is bullshit.
>>98409677>>98409682All you fags will whine but it's still better than your unpainted grey/MDF garbage.
>>98412999At least that terrain didn't cost and arm, leg, two kidneys, and your firstborn.
>>98411694Cops should have just arrested all of them. 102% pedos with a 2% mergain of error
>>98413004Sounds like a poorfag problem.Cry about it all the way to whatever chink makes your toxic recasts.
>>98412971I found it four threads back but it's already been removed
>>98412753here u go senpaihttps://gofile.io/d/J1YP6Bp. 170
>>98413032GW's terrain is also made in china, numbnuts
>>98413174You got me, you really did. Come on I just wanna read the new rules
i dont have a volkite serpenta. but i have a plasma pistol of a similar shape and size. how much conversion beyond making a new rectangular barrel would it take for this to feel cohesive enough to not just buy a serpenta off ebay
>>98413199some was, but that was almost two decades agoanything labelled "Made in UK" has substantially changed its use or value, not just been assembled (ie boxed) in the UK; likewise anything "made in China" must be labelled correctlywhen you see shit online about this it's usually people giving opinions about what they think is happening, which is then taken as fact by people reading those threads; but licensing for labels is very strict and is enforced in the UK, so if it says "Made in UK", it waswhen something is made in part in two countries - as with the printed materials, often including the boxes, which are made in China - it's fine to label them "Made in UK" as the actual product is the plastic toy, which is "Made in UK"
>>98413308Cut the muzzle flat and drill two holes.
>>98413308i would fill in the horizontal grilles forward towards the muzzle and lop off the things on the top and bottom towards the firing end toobesides that the barrel needs to be eliminated and a vertical trough carved in for the emitter end of a volkite devicea couple of horizontal slits on the very front could be added as well to drive it all home
>>98413316nigga, why are you lying
>>98408782thoughts on using the new catas with mauls as proxies for iron dominators with hammers?
>>98413308why the fuck cheap 40k fags always try the most boneheaded way to do conversions? Those fucking primaris guns are gigantic, more like a charger.Just buy one of the kits with a volkite serpenta, ffs. They come with the melee weapons set or the jet bikes.
>>98413360> Designed in the UKLmao why even bother.
>>98413360Terrain, some books and all the cardboard and cardstock stuff is Chinese made, while the actual miniatures are UK made.
>>98413360you can read that but you can't read the post you're replying tobenefits of an american education
>>98413484>>98413480>it's fine to label them "Made in UK" as the actual product is the plastic toy, which is "Made in UK"then why is it labeled "Designed in the UK"jesus christ, try a little harder
>>98413457No, not because it couldn't work,but because you're putting in zero effort you faggot. Kitbash units were a mistake.
>>98413468>everyone and their mom has 40k bits>"why is everyone trying to use 40k bits instead of buying a whole kit for a single bit?!"
>>98413595yes, we know that 40k fags unwilling to do things properly are aroundIt doesn't mean it should be accepted without being called out
>>98413509Oh look i found the faggot.
>>98413619Many such cases.
>>98413457Why not just use them with hammers? You know, given they have hammers?
>>98413754If your issue is "well, the kit only comes with one hammer and I need 5/10/however many"? Convert mauls into hammers, or 3d print some hammers, or buy bits, its honestly not that hard a process either way.
>>98413509This guy put it very bluntly: But I second the sentiment. Yes, there is a world where you can count mauls as hammers and its fine I guess, but what is described sounds incredibly low effort and gay. Convert your conversions, thats both more fun for you and a nicer experience for your opponent.
any image examples of legion bonded castellax paintschemes?
>>98414008
>>98414018wasnt there a full article with different paintschemes?
Would it be possible to use this for a tartaros character? Or is the top plate too obviously cata?
>>98414024Yes. But thats the one I remember because I play night lords and am biased. And that guy basically singlehandedly inspired my paint scheme.
>>98414026forgot pic like a dumbass
>>98414026>>98414037That's blatantly cataphractii from top to bottom.
>>98414058what gives it away besides the flat top?
>>98414062Come on now, don't you have eyes?
>>98414018
>>98414116KEK
>>98414086Lets say no. Show your working.
>>98414137>Rivets, rivets everywhere>Triangular cowl>Trim with rivets across the top of the chest, below the neck guard>segmented upper leg armour, usually upside-down V shaped>V shaped knee guards on lower leg armour>Leather straps>Rectangular, plain belt buckle>Cog-teeth like details on nose of bootsThat's just the front. On the rear there is>Segmented leg armour top to bottom>Distinct exhausts, power cables etc. arrangement, unlike tartaros which shares its design with Mk IV back packsThere's just now way to confuse catapractii for tartaros
>>98414137The biggest give away for cata armor is the segmented legs and rims around the armor plates.Tartaros give away is the barrel chest design.
>>98414186>>98414201Both helpful answers, much appreciated.
>>98414186>>98414201ENTER
>>98414290Now post the back side.
>>98414290nope, definitely cataphractii
>>98414328>>98414330yes I know it's cata but firedrakes have a very schizo design
>>98414351Salamanders just enjoy giving all their shit a custom job, you know what I am saying
>>98414364A custom job that happens to look entirely like Tartaros from the front
>>98412859>If the only reason to revolt is because Primarch said so than traitors shouldn't have had that many loyalists. Also plenty of legions had reasons to side with Horusare you retarded?
Are there any good legion rivalries besides IH/EC, UM/WB, TS/SW and IF/IW?
>>98414467Dark angels and dark angels
>>98414510You dark angels player are a contentious people. >>98414467Rivalries include but are not limited toIF/IWIH/ECUM/WBTS/SWDG/WSBA/WBDA/NLRG/ALI will say you DG vs WS is kino as fuck.
>>98414467>Dark Angels v Heterosexuality
>>98414532A rivalry implies an intent to fight back anon
>>98413338>>98413354>>98413468will post the actual thing once it's on a model but i feel like this is serpentish enough. maybe i'll put a cable feed on it
>>98414743It will never pass, and neither will you.
>>98414743This ain't it chief.
>>98408782Pre corruption fulgrim would appreciate the effort but would still enact exterminatusPre death ferrus would just take the entire mural out of the cave wall and then hang it up in his mancave
>>98414786>>98414829Models posted: 0.
>>98414743it looks finemy SA companions would've given these no-models a contusion
>>98414864All you've posted so far is a pr*maris bit.
>>98414880The resin Veletari are so cool but were such a pain in the ass to paint
Here's my opinion on the bits: Just do it instead of being a faggot who asks and argues on 4chan.
>>98414891why stop at a bit? ;3
>>98415522what legion are you going to paint that monster?
>>98415596eater seekernigga
>>98415522hes going to be a statue on a scenery piece, right...?You know, a monument piece made by some dumb backwater culture on some forgotten planet who heard about the legions but have never actually SEEN an astartes, so this is what they THINK they look like. Right, anon? RIGHT?
>>98415604anon....it's just a mk.iv permutation ;^3
>>98415522looks like shit, which is about what I'd expect from a retard like you with terminal shit taste
>>98415610His left foot looks like it got attacked by a wood chipper. Thats not a permutation, thats someone who tried to make their astartes cosplay out of shitty wood with a hammer and screwdriver as a chisel....
>>98415626>His left foot looks like it got attacked by a wood chipperi'd go one further and say the guy has probably been subject to recent bolter firecrazy how that can happen in a setting like this, right?
Sons of Horus or Alpha Legion?
>>98415749Sons of horus. All alpha legion players are degenerate waacfags.
>>98415804Duly noted
>>98409572>>98412991Traitorous hands typed these posts.
>>98415629Bolter rounds would leave nitucable chunks missing, bullet HOLES, or if BL is to be believed, pretty much NOTHING after they detonate. His foot looks like wood or maybe stone thats had sections shaved off with a chisel. The little curved armor above it has a section shaved off with an Xacto blade. His toe looks like a puppy chewed it, not a bolter.
>>98414998how so? >>98414880Did you swap out the barrel to make plasma out of the volkites? FW veletaris and solar aux as such money looking models.
>>98415522we truly are in a trolling recession
>>98415804Still seething and butthurt SoH after Paramar huh?
>>98415871Yes quite telling innit.
>>98415871being a traitor is the coolest thing you can be
>>98415888m8 it's getting largely obscured by basing material anyhow and there are any number of weapons that might be responsible for the damageu r a goof
>>98414891Trying too hard
>>98415522he looks like he was made out of trash
Before the passing of alan bligh, what were the popular ideas for where books 8 and onwards would be set?
just found out you can't take a command slot via logistical benefit (wasnt doing this before) so now my ZM list is ruined because I don't want to take a dreadnought
>>98414467is SoH vs Custodes a rivalry?
>>98416600It is made out of trash.
All that rivet counting and bitching about using 'the correct' bits. You people are worse than the worst historical dag, May, worse even than the people who point out I had the wrong hubcabs in my classic car I have it on moondiscs now, fuck boomers
>>98414467Salamanders went against the Death Guard. Plus you have the contrast of filth vs fire
>>98417045Stay mad, you 40k tourist.
>>98415522are you the same tard with those disgusting third party malformed troonscale marines?
>>98417045There is already a game for people like you. Perhaps you should stay in its general instead of trying to force yourself into places you don't belong into.
>>98417239Are you the anon who paypigs for GW's shitty modern faggotmarines with their dainty waists and shapely curved armour?
>>98417052no, DG used fire as well, not filth, you got 40k flanderization brain rot.
>>98417298Never bought those, only use classic HH marines.And yet those nu-marines look miles better than garbage turd-party tr00nscale slop.
>>98417333Trips of truth.
>>98416267Excuses excuses excuses.YOULL always know its there. Everytime you look at him, youll know that his foot was chewed on by a puppy. His name, henceforth, shall be "Pvt. Primarishit Pup-Chao"
Heavy chainsword vet despoiler squad: cringe or based?
>>98417545It would look cool. Meaning based.
>>98417298what do you mean dainty waists?
>>98417639Hes gay and wants to fuck the power armor.
>>98417639You have to remember, THIS is what he defends as "kino" and "what space marines were always meant to be". Kill all 3d print fags.
>>98417794those look like fucking ass.
>>98417794>"I look just like a real woman."
>>98417331They seemed pretty filthy when they came back from the dead in "The Flight of the Eisenstein".
>>98417842HH analog horror
>>98417794i really do prefer his mk.v rendition and it's altered pretty significantly from what he intended but yeah on the whole these are truer space marines than anything gw itself has ever madeplease, please crucify me on this hill i will be giggling like a madman the whole time
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>>98417842Those helmets are so good. I have 9 boxes of old mk 3. I love it so much.
>>98418016Yeah this look awful.
>>98409677that looks atrocious BUT much like grey WAAC armies and ugly WAAC model sculpts...I am happy to have visual flags to tell apart the capital G Gamer virgins from the passioned chad hobbyists.
>1 year since 3.0 launched>People at my local still rate the UM trait poorly>Still win most of my gamesWhen will people come to realize reactions are fucking broken and getting to do 5 a turn breaks the game?
>>98415522I know everyone's hating on you but congratulations on un-shittifying a primaris marine. I can't stand primarSHIT but I'll happily take this.
>>98417045I feel it anon. I have a stash of firstborn marines I've never built and I would much rather build and play them for HH than 40k, I can't stand the current 40k fluff. it's truly lost me
>>98416862whats the full picture of your list? maybe youre forgetting some configuration that lets you take what you want
>>98418102yes it moggs the shitty nu mk3
>>98418199HHfags are too dumb to learn anon. Most are still utterly convinced terminators and a primarch in a spartan is unbeatable.
>>98418214
>>98418214thank you very muchi want to make peace with astartes in full and through my own lens entirely undo what's going on with their present modern mishap, if only for mei can scourge the maleficarum out of them fr
>>98418016Isnt there some joke politician in the UK right now who looks like this? King Binface or some shit?These look like what a child would make for a robot costume. HVAC tubing and a cardboard box for the body and head.
>>98418214pure same fagging. He took a primaris and ran it through a belt sander and then let a puppy chew on it for a half hour. Again, looks like someone who just got into wood carving or stone carving and hasnt learned how to smooth things out yet and make them symmetrical.
>>98418199People are stupid. The old trait was "tangible power", it was less thematic but it was a hard numerical benefit. You could say "it triggered, so I shoot 25% better" or whatever. The new one is more abstract, its tactical flexibility and how the fuck do you rate that? It doesn't make you "objectively killier" or have an easy way to represent its power, so people feel down about it despite it being simply a much better trait in terms of "design".
I've ordered the combi weapons. Time for that breacher centurion finally
>>98418286More like they don't want to learn. These retards are so buck broken by post 7th 40k that they think literally any form of play that isn't mob towards the center of the board with blobs of terminators and mindlessly shoot at whatever's in sight is cheating.
>>98418315fuck youbut also, this is hilarious
>>98418355>These look like what a child would make for a robot costume.do you not see the elegance of that?
Perhaps I should some blackshields.
>>98418376> it looks badwell then you can work on your own miniatures to a higher standard, anon.
Where can I find these chain axes today?
>>98418628Those are the MKII assault squad ones.
>>98418640They're not unfortunately
>>98418628Where is the image from?>>98418640It's crazy to think it took over a decade for chain axes to become standard for assault squads.
>>98418683Don't worry, it'll be gone again next edition
>>98418704MkIIs come with axes, so unless they axe (no pun intended) the whole kit, I doubt it.
>>98415871One of the gayest things fat fuck did (Bligh) was say 'oh there were loyalists and traitors in every legion at all times.'It's retarded.
>>98418756I think bligh just wanted to beat the playerbase to the punch since he knew there would be people who would do armies of legions contrary to their historical loyalty. And really giving people more hobby space to play around with is always a good thing, even if it can be kind of eye-rolling at times.
>>98418756We knew of loyalist elements in traitor legions well before the HH game, so why is it unthinkable for there to be traitorous elements in loyalist legions? They're not homogeneous blobs who all think alike. Different groups operated in different parts of the galaxy under different leaders and were influenced by different things.
>>98418628They look like some amalgamation of HH power axe and chain axe designs.
>>98418714"chain weapons"Shrimplification comes for us all, I'm afraid
>>98418429Based. Ordered the combi weapons too, can always use more and needed more pouches and shit as well.
>>98418756>It's retarded.No, it makes sense. Thats how civil wars work, thats what makes the horus heresy so scary from the imperial perspective and what defines so much of the early narrative around it. You dont know who you can trust, you dont know who is loyal or secretly for horus. Horus doesent know exactly either. A charismatic warlord has declared war on the state he once served and countless have risen to his banner, he was popular and beloved, he had friends in many places, he was the best of them. Of course he had shooters from every legion, of course there were those in the legions sworn to him that wouldnt have accepted his cause.
>>98418756Nah, the legions were large and dispersed enough to allow different allegiances within each legion. It's more unrealistic if most legions would have had no deserters at all if you ask me.
>>98418929Finally, some actual HH models being posted on /hhg/>>98418933Is he holding a keyblade?
>>98419050Nah, just a REALLY chewed up power gladius. All the notches and chunks taken out makes the pain better for the victim....instills more terror.On that note, I think its pretty funny that now in the lore, most power weapons DONT have actual sharp edges on them. Theyre all dull and its the power field around them that lets them basically melt through shit like a light saber. That means a normie getting hit by one would be like getting hit with a white hot piece of rebar. More of a dull wound versus a nice cut.
>>98418933I've seen clearer photos of bigfoot,also nice.
>>98419062Wait, when did they retcon that? Far as I know it was only force weapons that didn't actually need to be sharp, because muh warp shenanigans.
>>98418929>>98418933Love some Midget marines!
is there a night lords version of this?
>>98419281yes
>>98419370
>>98419244Marines as they ahould be. They are perfect.
>>98419434marines can't be goodthey can be pretty
forgive me if i'm wrong, but cant alpha legion give tarantula sentry guns deepstrike in ZM via this prime advantage?don't think you can actually deep strike them though due to the reserve stratagems?
>>98419468yes
>>98419409No. I dont have it saved, but I have seen it
>>98418756>One of the gayest things fat fuck did (Bligh) was say 'oh there were loyalists and traitors in every legion at all times.'The black books didn't allow you to play loyalist WB.
>>98419474suppose they could come up on the mass elevator, that'd be funny
>>98418466Blackshields are not for the faint of heart
>>98419739Anon it tells you how they come in, a teleport transponder. Youre teleporting the guns onto their ship.
>>98419739[Elevator Door Dings Menacingly]
Really happy we got some more titan toys. Now I just want more infantry for Aux and Astartes for LI, and plastic Armigers/Moirax. Fuck yeah Legio Mortis
>>98419733Not initially, but you could do it via Shattered Legions.>>98419780>now they have our guns, they're gonna know who's boss
>>98419468well no because a) even if you're giving them the PA as a Unit, each Tarantula would have to DS separately (because of Independent Sentries) which is Not Useful, and b) because they have a Movement Characteristic of -, they may not>move, Rush or otherwise change the Model's position on the Battlefield regardless of any other Rules that may affect it(AoDR p169)if the Model is not on the Battlefield, entering from Reserves would change its position on the Battlefield, and so is not possible for Models with a Movement Characteristic of - or 0
>>98419975Arriving from reserves is a form of deployment, not movement. By your retarded logic tarantulas wouldn't be allowed to be deployed regularly either, as that would change their position upon the battlefield. And drop pods would also not work.
>>98419780yeah but i'm fairly certain all reserves must come through via the stratagems right?
>>98419789
>>98420011Needs to be remade with a loyalist infiltrating a traitor warband.
>>98419281>>98419508Ave Dominus Nox, Brother. 5 minutes in GIMP, just made it
>>98420039>tfw you're playing blip markers and you turn a corner only to see a terror squad 6" away in abyssal darkness
>>98420005Teleport strike IS a reserve stratagem, you dense motherfucker.
>>98420103yes I may be densewhat i'm saying is that I don't think there is a way to deep strike WITHOUT using teleport strike in ZM?unless I missed something, i'm fairly certain every type of reserves has to have a reserve stratagem picked for it when you want it to come on, and given teleport strike specifies infantry, you cant DS the tarantulas (unless you can not use a statagem and DS normally)
>>98420106Any unit of infantry that has the deep strike special rule (but isn't also anti-grav) can deploy using the teleport strike stratagem. There are a few unit with built-in deep strike, and warmongers exist.
>>98420002and yet the rules for Movement clearly state that models without Movement Characteristics cannot "otherwise change the Model's position on the Battlefield regardless of any other Rules", which means even Reserves and Deployment rules cannot change the fact they are unable to be deployed from Reserves, which would change their position on the battlefielddon't worry though, they're not Casualties, they're just stuck in a crate somewherethe big clue you should have noticed is that Reserves is a sub-phase of Movement; and the second big clue is that the Reserves Rule itself also states >Entering play from Reserves is considered to be moving for Rules that are affected by a Unit having moved, even if the Models in the Unit that is entering play do not move after being placed(AoDR p242)so it's clearly defined as Movement (and happens in the Movement Phase) and is, by definition, not something a Model with a Movement Characteristic of - or 0 can do; the following page has the Moved vs Stationary Rule, which defines that>In order to have moved, one or more Models in a Unit must end the Movement Phase in a different position than that which they started the Phaseagain, since the Unit must have started the Movement Phase off-battlefield in Reserves in order to enter play during the Reserves Sub-Phase, entering from Reserves must count as Movement, because the Unit is not where it was at the start of the Phase (this also means you are not Stationary for eg Heavy (X) weapons if you arrive from Reserves in the same turn, even if you don't Move); even if the Tarantulas gained Deep Strike from Teleport Transponders, they couldn't use it>>98419789>>98419739I wanted to agree with this but obviously it too is technical Movement and so impossible for Tarantulas; bit of a waste too, since they'd be automatically destroyed at the end of the turn they arrive in; but if they weren't removed you could camp the els and conga-line to victory, which fucking sucks
>>98420168>which would change their position on the battlefieldThey arent changing their position on the battlefield because they dont have a position on the battlefield. Or are we going to argue drop pods cant actually deep strike?
>spend 2 hours looking for a pointing army that I know I have>don't find itstarted on the melta bomb sapper vets
>>98418228Tbf, I Do think you ought to put in some effort to HH the mini's but people having a fit over a 40k sword is just silly. Or a 40k armor Wich is made of HH available parts for a character, call it MasterCrafted or something. Logan had the eagle curras, I'm sure there are more marines who have personal touches like that.
