City of the Damned Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98399629>Thread Question:What's your favorite spell in the history of Warhammer Fantasy and why (Dwarf players may answer with a rune)
Foot of Gork. Got to love the classics. I'm pretty sure I've killed more of my own guys with it than enemies.
Dwarf players are not allowed to answer.
>>98412127>What's your favorite spell in the history of Warhammer Fantasy and whyPurple Sun. IT WAS SO EPIC. Like a cheat code. Just cast it with irresistible force, melt your opponent's death star and win the game. So cool.
Do you actually like TOW rules or do you just play it because there really aren't other rank and flank games with as large player bases?
>>98412214The latter. I've been trying to dig out of gws ecosystem with games like battletech though, still not rank and flank but its a much better system.
>>98412214Option two. Through to be honest, ToW is probably the best WHFB ruleset to date. And I give it brownie points for letting me field a an an troll army, even if it's wonky.
>regular 6E player>have a first game of ToW (battle march coming this week) >have 40 points left over to rune my thane upAny tips dorf players? I nearly always take the master rune of swiftness on my beat stick (along with the master rune of spite if it's not a slayer) but from what I see in this edition extra strength no longer gives you AP so my thane will be stuck with a fast S4 AP- attacks and that sounds bad.
>>9841226140 points won’t change your game from being a steam roll
>>98412261Give him a great weapon and give him armour runes, then go to town.
Is there a scan for the full battle march book yet? I'm curious to see the campaign
>>98412271I usually prefer my model with the shield but I could see how it works out. I'm still getting to the combat chapter, do people still fight first on charge including those with two handed weapons?
>>98412281Not quite. For each inch you charge, you get+1 initiative, capped at +3. Great weapons get initiative 1, so cap at initiative 4 on a full charge. As Dwarfs however, expect to be charged than not.
>>98412281Also if you prefer the hand weapon and shield, just give him the rune of Fury, Might and Cleaving. +1 Strength, +1 Attack and -1AP and still get your shield. I am similar, I hate using minis with equipment on the model.
Best way to convert a mounted wizard for empire army?
>>98412330take legs from light cav modeltake wizardbisect wizard at the waistglue light cav model legs to half-wizardlocate horseuse your animal instincts to figure out the restalternatively, you have ~40 years of metal, plastic, and possibly even resin empire models to search through on the second hand market. figure it out.
>>98412261Depends on the role. >Cheap leader: hand weapon, shield, armour runes.>For tanking (expensive): Shieldbearers + rune of preservation .>For damage: great weapon + 1 or 2 runes of Fury.There are also the gun Thane and the BSB.My favourite is with Shieldbearers and great weapon, but when short on points I would do handweapon + great weapon + shield + 2 runes of shielding. Keeps him alive, can switch weapons and keeps the gromril weapon bonus.
>>98412330Horse / legs from Cathay or High Elves mounted wizard + torso / arms / head from Flaggelants.
>>98412330>>98412425>flagellantsClassic bright wizard fodder. They also have some options like books, scythes, hourglasses and such.
>>98412425Forgot pic.
>>98412376The issue is specifically finding robed legs that fit to a horse/pegasus
>>98412525greenstuff and sculpting toolyour animal instincts should have led you to this conclusion already
>>98412530You might as well reply to every similar post "sculpt your entire army from scratch".Some of us have jobs nigga
I am constantly impressed by all the detail on the Cathay models I am putting together. Little stuff like a peasant carrying around a pheasant to eat for later, tea pots strapped to belts, the ogre carrying a massive carp presumably to eat later as well. There’s tons of this charming detail.
Gentlemen, I love Orcs and Goblins.
>>98412282Not good, I'm used to being charged but at least hitting first with the hero to get in a few wounds and cushion the blow.But who knows, maybe it's time to try something new. >>98412307Good build, but above my current spare 40 points. I'd probably swap out the +1 attack for strike first if I had the points and rolled with it otherwise. Still, aren't you worried about having basically no ward save?>>98412403>There are also the gun ThaneNow that's interesting. I always wanted trying a shooty general but it's not really a thing for dwarves in 6E.
>>98412666Same, anon, same. You can't beat green.
>>98412666Man, the 6th edition rulebook had some of the best fluff. I used to read it over and over.
>>98412844You really can not beat green. I also love Hordes of Chaos and Lizardmen as well, but that is a secret.>>98412864GW use to put so much love, detail and care into their books.Read and re-read all my old 40k rulebooks and Codexes. Codices?
>>98412214Number two.Also I don't like the size of conquests models, the factions, or the play styles. The activation mechanic and reinforcement mechanic, in theory, are good though.I would rather be playing warmaster but the fags in my area can't into anything that isn't CURRENT SUPPORTED THING
>>98412261It's battle March why the fuck are you overthinking this.Fags like you ruin everything
>>98412403Some HO HO HOO looking morherfuckers
Finally!After three years of searching for this specific helmet, my collection of 5th edition chaos warrior and knights bits is completed! Both chaos warrior command squad variants and now, at long last, the proper helmet for a chaos knight champion!Today is a good day.
>>98412127
>>98412666I got to agree.As I paint a fuck ton of humies on foot I start thinking. Thinking about trolls. The models have always been the most iconic whfb models to me. Perfectly representing the cartoony nature of the setting.How good is a troll horde? Is this list any good? I have a bunch of savage orc stls so I figure this could be a horde straight out of the southlandsPrimal Smashin [1998 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Orc & Goblin Tribes, Troll Horde, Open WarTroll Hag, Hand weapon (Gnarled stump), Troll vomit, Swamp breath, Heavy armour, Wizard [Level 2 Wizard], Glittering Wotnots, Troll Magic - 310Ogdruz Swampdigga, Bog-wood staff, Trollhide shawl, Lore Familiar, Level 3 Wizard, General, Troll Magic - 195Orc Bigboss, Frenzy, Warpaint, Battle Standard Bearer [Banner of the Wildz], War Boar, Da Choppiest Choppa - 1596 Stone Troll Mob, Troll vomit, Light armour, 6x Great weapons - 2826 River Troll Mob, Troll vomit, Light armour, 6x Additional hand weapons - 30023 Orc Mob, Additional hand weapons, Frenzy, Warpaint, Big Stabbas, Full Command - 2066 Orc Boar Boy Mob, Cavalry spears, Frenzy, Shields, Big 'Uns, Warpaint, Full Command - 146Giant, Giant's club, Light armour - 200Giant, Giant's club, Light armour - 200
>>98412644I hope that's worth betraying America/Empire for chinks
>>98412214I like TOW, though there are some rules I’d like to see improved or tweaked ofc.
so battle march is just the old warbands of 6th right?
Kislev looks too small on the map to be a proper faction.
>>98413096it's Border Patrol from 6th
>>98413119That's why it won't be a proper faction. AoI for empire at best.
>>98412795>no ward savesI don't Dwarf but I tend to just attach Meteoric Iron on my general and let his T5 do the heavy lifting. Dwarf Thane gets full plate by default. With a shield 3. He also has Gromgril armour, allowing him to reroll 1s. That is plenty for Battle March. Even eating a lance he gets a 5+ save unless they wound him on a 6.
>>98413119it's a bit bigger than that in TOW
>>98412666Me too green brother. Me too.
Is 3rd edition WHFB the edition to play fun unbalanced narrative games with, or is it too mechanically convoluted?
>>98413192Looking great, bro. Is the Orc on the left made of metal?
>>98413093Yeah, even if I've criticized the clunkiness of some rules, I feel like it is often exaggerated. Would be in favour of some streamlining, but it probably wouldn't address the biggest issues in the game.
>>98413196Thanks lad. Both are resin man, from the Orc Command set. 10/10 sculpts and both have had their fair share of good scraps at this point.
Whatcha working on anons. I got the base coats and the wash done on my ghorgon before blitzing to the airport for work
>>98413216Some chaos knights from almost 30 years ago.
>>98413216Love the paintjob, and great use of the hand holding a statue. Can't wait to see him finished.
>>98413216They are sprayed now but hope to make progress through this week.
>>98413210I'll have to think about buying and adding them to my eventually growing army. Thanks for the information on them sculpts.>>98413216Impatiently waiting on my Battalion to arrive. Love the Ghorgon. Great miniature, even if my own is sitting unprimed and unpainted while gathering dust.>>98413233The old knights have such charm to them. >>98413241Those also have a great deal of charm, looking forward to seeing them fully painted in the future.
>>98413216Tank engineer and grand master. With these finished I'll have my 2k list ready for battle against Ogre Kingdoms this weekend.
What army says "I hate women and minorities"?
>>98413309OnG, Skaven and Dawi
LGS just sold me the last Orcs and Goblins Battalion for $140 USD. Feels good to get such a huge box for the price of a Combat Patrol or Spearhead. Just need to wait for it to arrive now.
LGS is apparently dumping all the Mantic stock they have. Ended up with a box of these Orcs for free with my order. Think with the right paint job they should be good counts as Black Orcs?
>>98413309>womenEmpire. Its 100% a mans fantasy
>>98413353>ManticDon't do it man.
>>98413363The box was given to me. Shoved in my hands as I went to leave the counter.
>>98413366Might be useful for bits maybe
>>98413353Don't know about orcs but mantic goblins can work as warhammer ones well enough with a classic colour scheme and some OnG sourced kitbashing for the front rank. Absolutely horrid kits to assemble though, shitty plastic, soft detail and super inconvenient mould lines. Also basically no customisation options so you're left with what you can scavenge from your bitsbox yourself. Their only advantage back when I bought them was that the box was like 0.94€ per mini which is ludicrously cheap.
>>98413396Might be. Can always use them as filler and fodder as well.>>98413429Those do not look nearly as bad as the webstore and box pictures. How are they scale-wise? $40 for 40 goblins is not a terrible price. I do not think they are made by Archon for Mantic, so I doubt the quality is great, sadly.
>>98413309Dwarf
>>98413366Should sue them for assault and battery.Use the settlement money to buy proper models
>>98413429A bit of a silly kit because the best viewing angle for the unit is from the back, because they're all hideous hunchbacks. Also note how there's only like 1 quiver per 5 archers so I had to go fishing for GW ones to even it out.
>>98413461"Your Honor, the accused forced Mantic miniatures on me, defaming me and causing immense psychological and emotional distress and assault on me!" "Mother of God!"
>>98412795>I always wanted trying a shooty general but it's not really a thing for dwarves in 6E.Not a dorf player so I don't recall the exact details, but you can give a thane a handgun and make it into a grenade launcher with a rapid fire rune and an explosive rune. Also room for an accuracy rune, if using the right army iirc.I've got a large ogre army and a 6th edition army book, but I've never played in its correct edition. Any suggestions for like a 1k army with the fatsos? Just general pointers on what I should have on the field and on my heroes.
>>98413353The only proper place to dumb mantic models is in the bin
>>98413446Here's a very old comparison picture I took, with a BFSP night goblin, knightmare shaman, MoM shaman and Mantic goblin. They're just about the size of the current goblin warriors/wolf riders I'd say, so I don't think there are any major scale issues + greenskin are kind of inconsistent size wise anyways. IMHO their only aesthetic problem is that their heads are kind of small compared to GW greenskins.Yeah if you just want cheap goblins it's not the worst deal honestly. While the detail isn't the best, it's at least sculpted well enough that you can clearly understand what's supposed to be what, so they are at least fun to paint. If you actually really cared you could push these sculpts even further with some quality blending and highlighting I just couldn't be assed to spend too much time on gobbo chaff.
>>98413309What faction says "I just dilated and after this game I am going to play dustborn with my life partner and xirs boyfriend"
>>98413520Stormcasts
>>98412537A job doesn't keep you from developing your skills, brownoid.
>>98413503Thank you Anon, I will keep that in mind if I need the gobbo fodder for my army. Appreciate your insight on the question and the comparison image, you are awesome!
>>98413594I've probably spent more hours sculpting than you've spent jerking your gherkin.And we all know brown people don't play/cant afford warhammer
Black Orc Warboss given the Ruby Ring of Ruin or Wizarding Hat to simulate the Shaman? Both are level 1 spells and it is only a 10 point difference cost-wise.
>>98413684The wizard hat would better simulate how annoying and distracting having a goblin on your shoulder can be.
>set game in the era of Magnus>no magnus or Kull modelsI hate gw and setting it back was such a cucked move to keep siggy piggies happy.Its why I am so happy with my 3d printer. Fuck you Kevin Roundtree.
>>98413856I had considered that, glad you mentioned it! Wizarding Hat it is, thanks Anon! It might bog the Boss and his Black Orcs down, but damn is it narrative and fun.
are cobalt keep bases worth it?
>>98413878I like it because the Whfb era was shit and boring
>>98413878>>set game in the era of MagnusIt's not tho, it's around 2276 and the war against chaos doesn't start until 2301 and it lasts for 3 years til 2304.Read up on the current state of the game before complaining Anon.
Y'all got any more of that Sylvania Curse County pdf?
>>98414039Magnus is alive at this point. I think one of the C7 RPG writers seid he was a young man at this period of time, so it's probably fair to call it the Age of Magnus
>>98414084It's just a lore book anon; it doesn't have any Crunch outside some minor statblocks like a Ghoul King or Patchman Man and a Stake Arbilist weapon.
Is it true that there are instances of orcs and goblins raping people somewhere in Games Workshop's canon? I vaguely remember something implied in a Gotrek and Felix story but had the impression it was more goblins using implements for torture purposes. It just seems really out of character for how greenskins are described otherwise.
>>98414136What too much porn consumption does to a mfer
>>98414136Orcs dont rape retard. They dont have dicks.Beastmen however rape constantly for the love of the game
>>98412214I like TOW better than 6th, 7th, 8th, and WAY more than AOS.I have complaints but I don't think there will ever be a game or edition that doesn't have a nit to pick.
>>98414136There is a reference, partially, in Skarsnik where the goblins are described abusing the women in manners the men found dusturbing, which they purposelly did. If it was rape or not is another matter but likely sexual torture with weapons insert or cutting off parts. Again not explicitly described but the implication is there. Orcs just enslave, kill and maim however. Also eat.
>>98412214There is genuinely nothing to like about tow compared to non gw games
>>98414442>Orcs just enslave besides black orcs and hobgoblins who could sell to chorfs I cant imagine them taking prisoners. Like how would you even send a messager to get a ransom payout?
>>98413194>Is 3rd edition WHFB fun?Yes. >Is 3rd edition WHFB unbalanced?Yes.>Is 3rd edition WHFB mechanically convoluted?Somewhat, about as much as any other edition.3e is the best edition by far and you're bound to have lots of fun with it.
>>98413660And yet you do.
>>98414475ransom? why? you can put them to work to death
>>98414084Get a job, you'll be able to purchase the book in under a day of labour.
I want to build a Battle March list dedicated to the greatest goblin who ever gob'd a lyn: Grom the panchAny tips on how to make a 750 list?
>>98414611Oh my god it’s fucking battle march just make your own fucking list. It’s not something that’s supposed to be given much thought unless you’re looking to not abuse its small format.
>>98414611Goblin warboss on chariot with great weapln and tons of common gobbos.
>>98414620>"help me make a lore/historical army">OMG SHUT UP CHUD! Figure it out yourself I a busy dialting my chudigina with my pickle rick diator to beastman rape
>>98413296based. i use those old paint pots for handles too lol. youre the steam tank anon? very based. i myself need to batch paint 10 night goblin archers (boring, gay) and then 2 more stone trolls to call my army “complete”
>>98413520that kind of "person" does not play at all, so I guess a one off model painted garishly by a commission painter
>>984131943rd edition is simply the best edition of WHFB to ever exist. It has been a continual drop down hill since
>>98413520Probably bretonians or renegade crowns
>>98413520Orks and Goblins or now Tomb Kings, when Mike Brooks gets that BL book released
Battle march has me excited with idea for building differant bagage carts.Empire would be easy with a basic historical cart pulled by an ox but other races open some optionsLike chorfs and dark elves would probably have some kind of wagon cage of slaves on wheels pulled by camels. A high elf wagon could holding books/wine while moving automously by magic. Dwarves could have a jackass or two pulling a mine cart full of gems.I like modeling/printing shit like that.
>>98414868I want to make the exploding ale cart from shaman slayer for my beastmen
>>98414868>cart
>>98414563>TWWddlers>support the world they "love" financiallylolWe wouldn't be in this situation if that ever happened.
>>98414136>Is it true that there are instances of orcs and goblins raping people somewhere in Games Workshop's canon? I mean if you go back far enough, yes, but it's not canon anymore, now they're like 40k. I've seen some mention that it might be canon that they have dicks despite not needing them, but I doubt that's canon, and I don't know the source of that claim. It was probably just a writer not being aware, or some attempt to reconcile old lore with new.Sometimes I feel like GW just didn't give a shit about fantasy lore, and just let writers do whatever they wanted. 40k lore feels much more consistent.
>>98414475Aren't there a few stories of them kidnapping Dwarves? I thought one of the southern holds had some lore of the King's family being held by some Orks. I mean they literally held the high king as a prisoner and Sigmar saved him. There's also the literal model of the tied up slayer that came in the 7th starter.
>>98413216Gor blob and some characters. Probably cleaning up the skin bits next
>>98414868how are baggage carts related to battle march, what'd I miss?
>>98414475Skarsnik has a dungeon full of prisoners in his book. Some for torture, some for work and others like the MC.
>>98415002Raaroo, brother.
>>98415023A grown ass man typed this out unironically and clicked post.
>>98415027Anyone who puts the effort in to painting Gors deserves to be given respect. So yes, a grown man did type that out unironically and clicked post.
>>98415035>effort>contrast slopper
>>98415039I will not even honor your comment by asking you to post models.
>>98413090>He thinks the glorious empire of man could represent the depraved sex cult that is America Go back to Niggeroth, lardo.
>>98415086>Muhammad al e-bin typed this, proud of his german citizenship
>>98414985Fantasy can definitively be called the setting of the unreliable narrator. All you need as an example is the stories of man sized rats living under the cities. Hogswallop!
>>98414442>in Skarsnik I thought that implication bit was in the Gloomspite novel for AoS
Genuinely do nuhammer players even realize what they are missing?
You really have nothing going on in your life huh?
He really is a nogaems, terminally online faggot if he thinks the linehammer thing is something to troll with. Especially since it was FAQ'd out of the game over a year and a half ago.
>>98415197Is summer break and I am waiting for an interview to call back. The principal of the last school I worked out is on vacation so I'm scared I wont get the job if they cant get a hold of her despite a glowing rec letter.So I am daydreaming about using my old high elf warden again in battle march. He's on a perpetual quest: His uncle, the prince, keeps sending on a fool's errand to find his missing gems on every corner of the world. The warden is tired. So very tired. But both honor and being cut off compel him to quest for this fucking jewelry.Pic of him when we played 6th edition last year
>>98415227>>98415197oh you were vauge posting to the perry fag
>>98415218>Especially since it was FAQ'd out of the game over a year and a half ago.new to the game and this interests me. elaborate plz
>>98415218Oh they patched it out in the latest battle pass season?? I guess that means TOW now looks like the top pic, right?
>>98415218NTA but like look at the past like hour of this thread, very clearly just someone going through the thread, replying to others with the most obvious ragebait of all time, then when no one bites just devolving into posting standalone bait. Very sad behaviour.>>98415002Peamish stuff anon, what paints do you use? I need to get started on my big beastmeme battalion box...>>98415227Same anon, I'm on the job hunt again and call me a fragile troon or whatever, but the anxiety is seriously keeping me from being able to sit down and hobby properly.
>>98415232When TOW launched, the rules stated that all models in the front rank of a unit would get to fight. With no stipulation on how far they are from the opposing models. In GW's mind, it was meant to represent the old Lapping Around rule from 6th ed. What ended up happening was that tournament faggots would run units 1 deep and 20-30 wide. Like the bottom picture of the troll's post.So GW released a major FAQ (the 1.5 update) that added the rule that units in the front rank can only make a supporting attack if they're within their movement characteristic of an enemy model. Effectively killing the idiotic WAACfaggotry that was Linehammer.
>>98415245>anxiety What about?
>>98415245>call me a fragile troon or whatever, but the anxiety is seriously keeping me from being able to sit down and hobby properlyWhen shit goes wrong I find my hobbies a great place to turn, especially with friends. It certainly beats turning to vices
>>98415195I remember back in the 2000's all the LGSs in my city have custom boards like the top pic and shelves upon shelves of terrain for players to decorate them with. I never see that anymore at any LGS I visit. The custom board has been replaced with neoprene battlemats and tournament terrain
>>98415299A lot of that has to do with the people who handle that stuff being fucking apes. About 10 years ago, I and a few other hobbyists made a whole bunch of scratch-built terrain of all types, fantasy, sci-fi, modern and so on for our LGS. We made the kind of terrain that we wanted to play on and donated it because we knew the store needed a supply of terrain for others and we were happy to help.90% of our hard work was broken and lost within 6 months.You kinda know things are going to get broken and beat up by sheer use. You're just never prepared for how fucking ham-handed these retarded gorillas are when it comes to handling terrain and shoving it back into the shelves where they got it from.
>>98415218Not only is he nogames he doesn't own a single warhammer model. He literally spends his free time here in a place he hates for a game he hates. Genuine mental illness on display
>>98415376source: I made it up
>>98414102Magnus was a student just prior to the Great War Against Chaos, and reigned as Emperor for about 65 years afterwards, meaning he'd either be a baby or not born yet in 2276 dumbfuck(I don't know why he's always drawn old during the Great War)
>>98415414I literally know everything about that faggot. He owns no models and doesn't even play Warhammer. He would've posted models if he had any, but since he has none he just trolls and stalks people across 4chan, it's pathetic.
>>98415530Admitting perryfag lives rent free in your mind isn't the flex you think it is
>>98415534>You keep chasing me literally everywhere to shit on every thread I post>Lololol rent freeKill yourself perry
Oh he's schizophrenic
>>98415602>Maybe if I call him schizophrenic everyone will stop taking him seriously You try this every time and it never works. Everyone knows you're a staking faggot. Find yourself some new stuff to shit threads with
perrynigger must die
kill the perrynigger
>>98413241Nice, perry blorcs are by far the best
>>98415376>>98415530Cope
>>98415661Post minis faggot
>>98415666Your turn, jackass lmfao
>>98415684>No timestampThis proves nothing, you probably stole this from reddi
>>98415719Let the coping commence
... Warhammer fantasy?
>>98413216Working on my Swordsmen for the painting contest, slow and steady, painting by matching bodies
>>98415753Who?
>>98415772These need goblin green bases, looks great otherwise! Love the /yourdudes/ paint choice
>>98415197No ?
>>98415772How do you get pinks/light purples like that?
>>98415792Thanks!...yeah I thought of doing them Goblin green, but the rim will be painted Waaagh Flesh instead, keeping a green thematic with my infantry.I went with a pair of coulrs the Empire doesn't have, so it can be my own dudes, oddly enough it's my Imeprial Guard colour scheme, just more bright and colourful.>>98415831base with Deamonette Hide, ink with Carroburg Crimson and then paint with Genestealer purple, leaving the creases dark.
>>98413165Right, AP is now harder to come by. I guess T5 should be enough for a cool duel.>>98413496Sadly there's no active ogre player at my club so I can share tips based only on my general 6e experience and what people that used to play told me:>this is a charriot and cavalry edition so you're at a disadvantage, although you can survive a charge since you're an ogre, gnoblars not so much>you got up to +3 rank bonus on everything so watch out for seemingly weak tarpits like empire swordsmen, anything with a hand weapon and shield gets+1 to save thanks to 6/7ed party>still you're flush for AP and get impact hits on charge, and you're unlikely to run into giants or dragona at a 1000 points (unless playing against dogs of war) so S4 will carry you>bring gnoblars to screen the ogres against bolt throwersSorry I'm mostly drawing a blank on them unless you have specific questions.
Got my chorfs based up, put them on 20mm for backwards compatibility. Hopefully the blunderbusses will need less fussing around to rank up.
>>98412214TOW is probably the best ruleset GW ever made, the game is very fun.I just wish we had more rule support for sieges, campaigns.Also, get rid of that fucking parry rule god damn it.
>>98412214I prefer the 7E rules since they just perfected 6E which was probably the best one overall. I do admit tho there are times where I want to rebase some infantry to 25mm so they stop rubbing their shoulders together.
>New aos models release>Wizard looks pretty cool as battlemage for my Empire army>"Each blind buy box features one of seven different miniatures for Warhammer Age of Sigmar"Lol lmao Apparently they are selling lootboxes for AoS now. Are AoS players really ok with this?
>>98416241they are really desperate to make shitmar profitable
>>98416096why remove parry?Maybe give it to the Empire swordsmen only, that'll give the army something different from the rest since we lost detatchment
>>98416265Because the shittiest, cheapest infantry in the game still ends up with a 4+ armour save. That basically mean means you can't kill anything with no AP and -2 is the default if you want to kill anything, which is retarded considering it's supposed to be the best option aside from exceptional magic items/combos.Basically they completely offset the armor/ap balance of the game with that one retarded rule.That also makes spears incredibly shitty, not only do you lose parry but you also have to pay for that loss AND the extra attacks you have will do absolutely because the enemy WILL have parry.It's incredibly dumb.
>>98416241Are you new? They started doing this for 40k and AoS years ago.
>>98415245>what paints do you use?Duncan Rhodes' paints + some old citadel washes and a couple of army painter contrast paints for the fur bits because fuck trying to drybrush all those hard to reach areas>I need to get started on my big beastmeme battalion box...Just pick up a brush and start painting. I procrastinated with mine for a good 3 months before i got anything done and now i just want to spend all my free time on painting
>>98416265>why remove parry?>Bretonnian peasant: 4+ save for 4pts>Ironbreaker: 3+ save for 15ptsThe rule made any cheap horde style unit with access to shield (any any other weapon choice besides shield stupid) ridiculously cost effective. I dont think removing it would solve much as then all infantry would be dogshit again.>>98416281Yes
>>98416241The boxes are quite popular with Japan, and other Asian countries, so it’s going well for the target audience.
G'night bros.
>>98416320>I dont think removing it would solve much as then all infantry would be dogshit again.Wrong because they still have the two fighting ranks, close order and massed infantry buffs from 1.5, which would still make cavalry and monstrous anything shit in comparison.
>>98416351Please don’t kill yourself anon if that’s what you mean.
Do the new chaos warriors have great weapon/halberd options?
>>98416412I dont think they can even dual wield.
Won against Cathay with Empire Army.
>>98416412All Hand weapons now I'm afraid.now to scramble to find the older, better models
I'm more into the painting and collecting side of the hobby. I'll play a few games every now and then, but I mostly like painting and organizing armies. For those of you who are on the same boat, how do you manage that side of the hobby? Do you just keep your models in showcases? Do you consider an army complete and then sell it? Because I've been looking through the big army boxes and found out I'd love to paint all of them but I'm quickly running out of space to keep them
>>98416441look into gunpla instead.
>>98416441small armies. Dont get sucked into the idea you need massive armies and lrn2manage space.Miniature collecting as a hobby if done intelligently is the most space efficient hobby.Toy collecting and gunpla etc is absurdly inefficient with spaceif you are like me and arent really tempted in the foreseeable future to actually play (because you hate people) small armies is perfect.
>>98416442I've tried and even bought one but I'm not into sci-fi or japanese robots so I built it and never painted it>>98416455That's what I was going into, but if I get an army I get into a completionist mindset and feel the need to get at least one of every unit. For elite armies like HE it's not a problem, but I started painting orcs and it's a completely different story
>>98416463You just need to take a deep breath and realise you are not actually playing the game so you dont need a competitive army or to net list. You are collecting for aesthetics. For example1 hero, 1 regiment, 1 bonus unit. This is a small army. Easy to paint easy to store, then you can move onto another one. With patience for your favourite army you can return and add a new unit over time, till you have something like 1000 pts.See the big irony here is this is how GW used to encourage people to collect back when WD was actually a hobby mag and Warhammer was bought with pocket money/lunch money.You'd start with a hero and a regiment, then just buy a blister every week or so until you had an army.
>>98416441Have you considered Napoleonic Miniatures or Italian Wars? Models take 10x the time/effort to paint so it keeps you occupied much longer
>>98416441There's like 250 models on those two shelves and they're only 60cm long.I don't really understand the space problem.
>>98416484I couldnt put my minis in a shelf. I'd have to give them a dedicated background to put them in first. feels soulless otherwise.
>>98416471Damn I miss the old warhammer ways. You got much more minis painted since you got a box, painted it and save for the next one in the meantime>>98416483Yup, got historicals too. Got minis for saga, bolt action and some spanish tercios >>98416484That shelf is too big for the place I live in. Imagine a 2 by 2 cave. Right now, I would consider that a palace. House prices are crazy in my area
when i see those guys on social media post their 100k+ point armies it honestly makes me physically sick in an intellectual/spiritual way.The money you could have spent on something much better.I don't know maybe the exception is if you built your own printer farm and can mass print an army for an affordable price, nowadays.Its jus absurd to have that many models you cant even play a game with them.
>>98416500calling your envy intellectual or spiritual isn't going to change the fact that it's just slave morality
>>98416488Minis only have a soul when they're on a table surrounded by terrains, dice and maybe a glass of beer. In any other setting they revert back to their useless plastic junk natural state.>>98416497Damn that's tough. If you're purely looking for efficient storage I could suggest a metal file box along with magnetized bases. You can safely put minis on all 6 inner side of the box. I'm confident I can pack those two shelves inside a single box (that's how I carry my armies).
>>98416497That was the idea, you got one thing a week, plenty of time to leisurely paint it.Part of the issue with what miniature collecting, Is getting implied deals from buying large quantities of minis. So i'll just make up numbers, like $150 for 70 minis, woah thats such a good deal. The issue here is you now have a pile of shame forming, you'll lose motivation to paint it and if you keep buying like that you'll be drowning in minis.Compared to say spending a bit less and getting one box of guys you like and couple extra units/characters. This is going to be more satisfying to collect and more manageable. You are basically being tricked to spend more for larger quantities you dont really need because plastic is cheap, it doesn't bother the company at all to give you a fair deal of plastic.
>>98416508I think reading my post and concluding i'm envious of this makes you a dumbass
>>98416241They've been doing this for over a decade. This is their 8th series I think? All previous series except for one have been space marines, that other one was stormcast.The thing is usually nobody cares because they're just reposed normal troops usually, so you just have like 2 special intercessor or 1 special primaris scout in your group of 10. And special is an overstatement because they look exactly the same as every other space marine. I mean look at these guys. Same case for the stormcast.This box seems to have mostly characters, who actually look different from the already existing models for those characters. Probably by virtue of being cities of siggy instead of space marines or stormies who have very strict looks they need to adhere to.But yeah this stuff is mostly aimed at japan etc, though usually the bigger retailers in the west also get some. It's not something you will find at an average lgs I think, at least not previously in my experience. It's trying to reel in normies essentially.
>>98416513Nta but you realize it's literally this guy's job to do that right?Nobody owns a 100k army without making it his job.
>>98416500Poor mentality
>>98416517his job, lmao. He has an even bigger chaos army classic case of have money, will spend on stupid stuff
>aspiring to have so many minis it will take you an entire day to move them
>>98416441NTA but somewhat related question since I find the topic interesting. When do you guys consider your armies finished? Once you have one of every unit in the army book? Once you reach a certain point value? Maybe you're a faction sperg like me and keep getting the same units over and over and use different paint schemes?
>>98416513See the issue here is GWs greed once again. If GW had made a 15mm 40k/WFB collecting armies of this size would be feasible.
>>98416513You're just in denial>The money you could have spent on something much better.You're putting yourself in their shoes and imagining a better situation, you're literally envying what they could have.
>>98416530i always aimed for like 1000pt, 1500pts max. Never really wanted 2000+ pt armies.Usually 500 pt was the starter size, 1000 was an actual army and 1500 was a finished army. 2000+ was for serious obsessed collectors
>>98416522He literally make STLs, print and sell them you retard. That's like bitching GW has 100k armies.How fucking retarded can you possibly be?
>>98416546anon this is pre-printing, he bought all that you low iq retard. As a hobbyist.
>>98416500>money you could have spent on something much betterLike wut
>>98416427Goddamnit. Also GW really needs to get back to putting their damn sprues on their website
>>98416546What are you trying to say? Nothing in that pic is printed. Same with his Chaos army. That was before 3d printing was a thing. He actually bought hundreds of ork boxes and then painted them to a crappy standard.
>>98416241It's primarily a jap thing. They released them for the first time as gacha boxes in like 2017, they've been so successful worldwide they keep doing it, but some are apparently still japan-exclusive
>>98416521Rich people are usually really careful with their money lol it's how they got rich in the first place.Its poors who burn their money on ridiculous shit
>>98416559>What are you trying to say? Nothing in that pic is printed. Same with his Chaos army. That was before 3d printing was a thing>>98416546>anon this is pre-printing,3D printing was 10 years ago you retarded faggots. The entire fucking video shows his creations. It's literally a god damn fucking advertisment for his shop.Negative IQ
>>98416574that shit isn't 10 years ago you actual zoomer retard. The newest thing there is the Morkanaut in 2014.3d printing wasnt affordable or accessible to that scale the you low iq lying actual zoomer moron.
>>98416582scale then*
>zoomer thinks people were mass printing armies over ten years agolol lmao even
>>98416582Why do you keep yapping you retarded cunt, there's literally a screenshot of him showing his 3D printed creation from the video right above your post.Stop humiliating yourself already.
I'm going be doing these skeleton pikemen for the august painting event
>>98416572>Its poors who burn their money on ridiculous shitI'm not from a literally who obscure royal family that is rich and just stays rich because rich so I get what you mean.I've spent money on game skins so I lost the right to say someone's spending is bad.But miniatures have always been more fun than virtual skins.Same with Warhammer models. I shouldn't have spent lots on "practice models" to git gud at painting miniatures. I should have just bought the models I wanted to paint.
>>98416606Also, one of the few instances where I can justify priming in white
>>98416604hes talking about the guy in the pics chaos army
>>98416582ok retardI personally bought the mars 1 for $250 seven (7) years ago btw
>>98416455It really depends what you're into, but I'm also a fan of the small armies approach. Except for /maybe/ the Empire, I feel like every army can really be whittled down to like ~4 kits that represent the core of that army's identity which everything else exists around. Not saying the rest of the AB is useless, but you have a certain minimum choice of units you can assemble, look at, and go "yup that's an X army alright" instead of just a group of units. I'm very mercurial, but ideally most of my armies veer towards something like 2 core, 1 elite/special and 2 characters, something like 750 points usually.
>>98416609if it makes you feel better worst thing i ever did was dropping a couple hundred on a korean mmo gacha and i didnt get the thing i wanted, and i will never do that again. Not that id play any gacha ever again even even for free (thanks Yoko Taro)Dumbest miniature related spending was throwing a thousand on a miniature kickstarter, and one that was about 400-500ish dollars. But i actually ended up really liking the 400ish dollar one
>>98416627I had a small army Empire idea for ages which is basically a witchhunter, undead slayer army led by a priest, greatswords, flagellants and some cannons and lots of guns.But ive since sold off a bunch of it so the actual army will be even smaller.It was supposed to be a counterpart to my small Vampire army ive also planned to make since forever.I also have a small chaos, lizardmen and skaven, tomb kings army as more rivals, backloggedPart of this was me wanting to make small armies facing off against one another in case i could convince a friend to play a game. Turned into me just collecting small face off/versus thematic armies because i enjoy it and i have no friends
>>98416614>he'sNo you're not, Morkanaut isn't a chaos unit.Not that it would change anything because those two armies don't belong to the same guy contrary to what you said and both literally live off this hobby like I said.
>>98416656you are trying to claim a guy that has shown off his huge army for coming up to two decades was printing it.When thats not the case because no one was printing back then. And that guys pics have been on the internet for that long
>>98416662>Why do you keep yapping you retarded cunt, there's literally a screenshot of him showing his 3D printed creation from the video right above your post.>Stop humiliating yourself already.
6mm and warmaster is optimal for space. Warmaster has a lot of stls now.In my mind because i was always space conscious and the appeal for me was small WFB/40K armies and moderately large 6mm was the best experience for me.Skirmish games are even better because its just a squad.And why i started to despise the massive plastic centerpiece push warhammer became because they take up so much space like anime figures
>>98416673>lacking so much self awareness>using zoomer speak>hiding the fact you are a zoomer>think people were mass printing armies ten years agoretard
i never understood why warhammer idnt become super popular in Japan or the Japanese made their own Warhammer because of the space advantage. Also they like bonsai.
>>98416687Jesus that's such a pathetic attempt at damage control that it almost makes me want to stop bullying you.But I'm still going to post more 3D printed models from the pic that, and I quote>Nothing in that pic is printed.>That was before 3d printing was a thing.>He actually bought hundreds of ork boxes and then painted them to a crappy standard.
Riveting discussion today
>>98416709Do you want me to talk about how I used my love juice as a thinner today instead.
>>98416701anon you are still retarded and have zero self awareness, again you claimed its all printed,Theres a video where the guy says the boys are all GW plastic and thats the bulk of the army as well as all the obvious kits. Basically you are dumb. And the point is buying that many minis.
>>98416715>Theres a video where the guy says the boys are all GW plasticHAHAHAHA you're the gift that keeps on giving. He literally says he doesn't have a single GW ork model in the video.That shit's too funny. Thank you for being so retarded anon.
>>98416740he literally says he bought out every gw Nobz kit from gw and off ebay and affected the prices for them he bought so much (because he wanted boyz the size of nobz. Before he even touched printingSo you lost the argument and i accept your concession true retard anon (that didn't watch the video)
>>98416530An army's done when you say it's done. Points values are abstract, change between every edition, and don't actually mean anything, especially in WHFB. You can inflate your army's points value with magic items and upgrades, so I don't consider that a good metric for an army's completeness. You could have 2000 points of chaos warhounds, but would that be a complete army?One of everything? That's stupid too. What about models you don't like? I think dragon ogres are stupid and loathsome in the extreme, is my army incomplete if I don't have any of them?Wanna know when my army's going to be done? Never, there will always be at least one more model that I want to acquire and paint, but the amount of models that make me feel that way has been steadily decreasing over the last four years. Mostly because people charge an arm and a leg for the models I still want and I can't justify spending that much money on what could only be described as a vanity project on top of another vanity project. Ergo, latin, scientifically, the point when an army is "finished" can be objectively determined by the ratio of desire to purchase a new model for said army with the amount of justification necessary to purchase another model for said army. Then you'd have to control for owning multiple armies, but I can't be fucked.Collect what you want, fuck what anyone on this board, thread, or anywhere else says. They're probably gay and retarded.
>>98416761haha you poor thing
>>98416530For my first army I got nearly 5k and every unit because I wanted to try everything and understand the game well. For my second army I just got 2k plus a couple of units because I just wanted a specific thematic army.From now on I think I'll just stick to 2k-2.5k for each army because switching armies will be more fun for me and I don't need to try multiple units of each army because I already know how they'll behave.
>>98416695Warhammer is somewhat popular in Japan, including Warhammer Fantasy. There's always been a lively Fantasy scene there. Check out forums from 20 years ago and you'll be surprised.
>>98416441Mostly I try to be efficient. A lot of the time I find a faction really appealing, but I don't actually have that many ideas for conversions and individual unit & character fluff, so instead of collecting a big army I probably won't really care about that much I do a Mordheim warband so I can do some cool converting and a 15mm army(I just use regular 6th rules including base sizes, but cram a bunch of 15mm minis on each base; this lets you play at a modest point value while still having a vaguely impressive army since a 4x4 or 4x5 regiment will still have 100+ individual figures, or a single rank of cavalry will still have 15-20) so I can enjoy playing the army from a rules perspective with minimal investment of time & effort. Where I do have a lot of ideas I want to realise, I try to find "compact" ways of doing them; I collect to 1500pt lists for 4th edition 40K instead of modern Blobhammer 41,000, my WHFB Chaos is actually four very distinct monogod forces(Khornate Khurgan mounted hunting party, vaguely Slannesh-themed Norscan sea raiders, a Tzeentch army based around a sorceror who founds cults across the history of the Empire to periodically summon his daemonic patron and its servants to the physical realm and gets to remain immortal so long as he does it every 100 years, and a Nurgle-themed Warrior/Beastman mashup list) plus a small collection of generic WoC units, all of which can be combined in various ways to form an actual tabletop army - that way I get to do five different "armies" while only actually needing about 2.5 armies' worth of minis. My Star Wars Empire is constructed in a similar way, with one or two characters and special units that get some actual backstory and effort, then single platoons of various kinds of X-trooper that can go together into a force based on the scenario. For 30K I stick to 1-1.5k Zone Mortalis and so on.
Do you get faster at cleaning and assembling models over time? I’m OCD about mould lines and it takes me about 25-30 minutes to put together and clean a single infantry model and I feel like that’s mad slow
>>98416241>>98416516They actually weren't too Jewish to start with since they provided them to retailers in packages that were essentially one of each mini in the series including the "secret" mini plus a couple of random extras, so if you found a retailer who would just sell you the whole box you could at least be guaranteed to get all of them. I think they nixed that around the time they started doing Primarishart ones instead of Realmarines.
>>98416572No, *well-off* people are careful with their money. Rich people either won a lottery(actual or metaphorical) or they inherited, and most of them are incredibly gauche and profligate with their wealth. Your perception has been skewed by three primary factors:1. Propaganda. You've been conditioned since birth to believe the wealthy earned their wealth and did so because they're smarter than you and worked harder, because they figured out brainwashing the plebs into being self-hating shills for the rich was a cheaper way of avoiding an eventual Guillotine O'Clock scenario than paying for all that social security stuff they used to stave off Communism in the 20th century.2. If you're rich, you can afford to buy things once. By which I refer to the Sam Vimes Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness - you buy the boots you can afford, which are cheap and wear out quickly, so you have to buy more, and this cycle repeats endlessly. They buy one pair of really well made boots that cost a few months of your salary, and if they look after them they never need to buy another. Cumulatively you spend more money on boots than they do. Multiply that by everything else you have to buy.3. The current fashion among the rich is to buy things that are heinously expensive but which deliberately avoid looking ostentatious. Another richfag will know that your jacket is an Henry Duboisie original that cost 15K, but to Joe Plebboid it just looks like a regular waxed hunting jacket that cost a few hundred quid. As a result the wealthy *look* frugal, but are actually still flaunting their wealth *to each other* just not in quite as crass a way as a rapper draped in gold chains.
>>98416530i have a completed 40k army but not a fantasy army, insofar as i have painted every model and can field a 2000pt force and have a comfortable amount of options, it's not meta but i'm happy with it and have no intention of adding onto it as i do not care for 40k in the slightest.
>>98416964You will, but the best approach is just to view the assembly stage as a kind of zen meditation experience. Put on some music you like and lose yourself in it for a few hours.
>>98414084I too am keen for a Cursed County pdf
>>98416280>>98416320Make parry a 6+ ward against non-magical?
>>98417242Thats probably the best solution, wasn’t it a wars save in older editions?
>>98417242No, just get rid of it wtf. It's literally not needed, shields already give +1 armour.
>>98417277Its like that in Warhammer Armies Project
>>98417351Removing parry entirely is not a good idea. There's a reason they added it back in. Infantry needed to a little boost. It's true that horde infantry is now too good as a result, but that doesn't mean that elite infantry shouldn't get it.
>>98417242>>98417481I think parry should only activate if you have equal to or higher WS than the opponent. It kinda makes sense. A WS 2 peasants shouldn't really be able to parry a WS 5 Swordmasters attacks. It would be more flavorful too and boost more expensive infantry.
>>98416500Spoken like a bitch
>>98416513Lmao that entire channel is a joke now.Barely over 5k views from their most dedicated whales when they use to get close to the 100k mark. The channel has completely failed
>>98417519I'd say only if you're higher weapon skill, not equal. Then just make it a full static +1 armor regardless if they have a shield or not. Would make elite units and characters more interesting.
>>98417552I mean if they are equally skilled it would make sense from a simulationist pov that they should be able to parry each others attacks at times? It's not like parry guarantees making a save
>>98416423If you aren't playing a sweat lord taking only the most broken shit Cathay isn't that bad. If they take an army that looks like an army and not just double shengungan or balloon bullshit, the army is fine to play against.For example I played my friends Cathay with double Sentinels, Miao, and only one cannon with my ogres. I won (mostly because he misplayed Miao) but it was fun, we were both tearing chunks out of each other.
>>98417571>double shengunganI don't want to sound like a fag but double shugengan isn't even that bad really. It's when you push into 3-4 when it becomes oppressive. Outside the cannons and shugs Cathay doesn't really have anything going for it, the balloons are only decent now.
>>98417563Stupid argument anyway.You don't have to be a GRANDMASTER to party someone else, fuck if you are less skilled you are MORE likely to just be trying to defend yourself, as you are too clumsy or worried about further opening yourself up going on the offensive.Regardless, Parry adding to armor is retarded ANYWAY, since parrying involves avoiding or deflecting the hit, and that sort of mechanic should be covered under the WS anyway, since it determines how well you hit and can be hit.
>>98417584>You don't have to be a GRANDMASTER to party someone else, fuck if you are less skilled you are MORE likely to just be trying to defend yourself, as you are too clumsy or worried about further opening yourself up going on the offensive.Yeah but if you're less skilled and/or more clumsy than your opponent then you will struggle to successfully parry/deflect their more skilled/graceful strikes.
>>98417578> I don't want to sound like a fagOk> But double shug isn't that badMission failed run on back to the glory hole to suck another penis
>>98417591Excellent job. You just described why parrying should be considered as part of the consideration for a units WS and not an armor buff.
>>98417614Parry increasing a unit's WS would be silly, that would make them better offensively too. Unless you're saying it should provide a -1 malus to hit. That'd be crazy talk.
>>98417619Hmm does mark of nurgle still give -1 to hit for chaos warriors?-2 to hit on top of their decent WS would be funny.
>>98417653No, it doesn't. It forces opponents to re-roll results of 6 to hit the marked unit.
>>98417668What a lame benefit. Should be +1 T
>>98417837+1T is more or less -1 to wound. The current mark is roughly -0.5 to hit.
The chaos marks in general are fucking lame. I still don’t get why warriors have weapon options when enscrolled weapons just makes most of those options null.
GW fiscal financial report came out, not much TOW stuff>Warhammer: The Old World>The Old World was released in January 2024 and the team are working hard to design and release as many new miniatures as they can.Highlights of the year were the ‘Chaos Warriors’, Warhammer’s oldest faction with its first incarnation in the early 1980s, and ‘GrandCathay’, one of the very newest, first released in 2025.So expect more plastic minis in the future
>>98418056damn bros looks like tow is not doing as hot as we expected
>>98418068Dont care. This is the first main gw game I've wanted to play in years. 40k has never been fun. Because IGOUGO is ONLY fun in rank and flank games.AoS is a soulless corporate mess that didnt even take advantage of the opportunity it was given. If they took the chance of a new game to do alternating activations it could have been fun. But the fact they stuck to IgoUgo proves beyond a doubt it was made by a soulless corpo.
>>98418068I'd say the opposite. If they want to design and release as many minis as they can that kind of implies it's doing well enough to warrant that.
>>98418056That's more than what they said about TOW last year>>98418068kys
>>98418198It's still a rather small amount compared to what was said about 40k AoS and HH
>>98418204HH is legit dead, look at the online engagement on YouTube and on their own social media. TOW meanwhile has more engagement online than AoS, and I don’t mean in secondary content like video games, I mean hobby content and battle reports and strategy videos. TOW is thriving, meanwhile AoS is headed for a reboot of the setting because the IP struggles to break into any kind of mainstream interest. A problem that doesn’t exist for Fantasy.
>>98418056Yes yes, that's all well and good, but are they opening back up the mail order catalogue system? I need the hind leg of a dragon from 1994!
>>98418258>online engagement equals success I mean maybe if this were for video games but this is for physical media over here.
>>98418096Can you provide some examples of games that do alternating activations well?I am currently writing my own ruleset and wouldn't mind studying some variations on the mechanism to see what works wellIn particular, things like how time durations of special abilities/rules/magic etc. are calculated is something Im exploring
>>98418204>small amount compared toHH has TWO more sentences and 40k/AoS are flagship games, anon. This is a financial report for shareholders who only care about overall growth, not a breakdown on each game. Hell, kill team isn't mentioned at all. This annual tea leaf reading is nonsensical.
>>98418274Frostgrave (kind of)One page rules (only 40k apologists say otherwise)OathmarkI find AA makes you really think about the order you activate constantly
>>98418273NTA but there are different metrics for success. A company will want to expand its revenue however it can and if they think they can shakeup a brand to make it more attractive to licensing deals while still keeping the same model sales, they'll do it because that's a clear "line go up" moment
>>98418258People are still buying HH stuff that references, in the report specifically, the Custodes models
>>98418056>the highlights of the year were [the only two releases of the year]kek
>>98418382Chaos didn’t even get a release for them to make them say that…
>>98418412marauders
>>98418451Oh. Kinda wish I didn’t get reminded about them.
LMAOOO we actually live in Perrymanlets head rent free, he seethes about TOW in other threads >>98415090. What an angry little guy hahaha
>>98418533he lives in your head rent free, that's for sure
>>98418360We are still on latter half of the pre 3.0 Heresy planned releases. GW has a stupid long lead time due to the amount of different projects on the move at all times.I genuinely wonder if a year from now Heresy will maintain their pace of releases. Looking at tournament data or really any kind of engagement that we can actually quantify, Heresy 3.0 did massive damage to the player count.Meanwhile TOW is thriving globally and very well organized with OWR. There's tons of tournaments being played every week and those only track the ones that are submitted into the system. So we know from that data that TOW is doing very very well. Meanwhile any kind of quantifiable data, along with prominent voices in the HH community will tell you that HH is struggling in 3.0
>>98418540Don't you have a thread to be making about us, you spiteful sprite hehe
>>98416096>Also, get rid of that fucking parry rule god damn it.What the fuck are you talking about? I just double checked the book. Its already gone
The parry rule is very much needed to keep infantry useable. Just tweak it so that you need equal or higher WS vs your enemy to use it in combat. Simple tweak that nerfs chaff infantry in favor of elites and also just make it into a 6+ inv save. A swordmaster should be able to parry a marauder with great weapons swing imo.
Does anyone know of any sources of heads like these old Eternal Guard ones? Looking to convert some wood elves and I fucking hate the newer tiara things.
>>98418622Good hair is more important than protection. Otherwise you'll end up like high elves
>>98418595No it's not.It's just fine as it is. >>98418611It's literally just 6th ed's Sword and Board rule. It's fine as is.Maybe it should be renamed to "sword and board" and Parry should be a 6++ like in 8th that only works if your WS is equal to or higher than the opponent.
>>98418637>No it's not.where in the book is the parry rule?
>>98418611A different method that might be better is if you're unit is higher strength then their strength they dont get parry.
>>98418652And by unit, I mean model.
>>98418650It was never in the book. It was added in the 1.5 FAQ and it's still in the Core Rulebook FAQ. Top of Page 4.
>>98418650Page 190
>>98418533Your post is proving his point.
>>98418533While he could absolutely be the change he desires to see, nothing is stopping you from proving him wrong either
Chaos Dragon release when?
>>98418729two weeks from now, maybe since I'm pretty sure it's either full AoS or 40k release next after Necromunda
>>98418622dunno, I guess you could try isolating those heads from scans and print them separately https://gofile.io/d/MqXPIk
I got the old world chaos batallion for 50€, now whats the best way to build it?Never played TOW btw
>>98418791pretend warriors only have shields and swordspretend knights only have lancesignore chariots unless you want to treat them like they have sorcerers also ignore your warriors, probably, I dont think the changes are good enough to field them unless you're doing something weird.
>>98418791Ignore what that other guy said about ignoring chaos warriors, not only are they a lot better now they were already seeing use in competitive play before they got a 6+ ward save and furious charge.Chariots do suck eggs though.
Can someone please tell me how good the minotaur-centric faction of Beastmen are? I got gifted a lovely beastmen chariot by a friend and was thinking about expanding my armies to include a dairy-cow themed minotaur force.To me the biggest difference between Grand Army and Minotaur-specific is that you can take a Bullgor wizard, which really doesn't feel very powerful overall.
>>98418829>not only are they a lot better now Their role is still the same. Wizard bunkers at best. The buff they got just made what was strong before stronger. Honestly the only thing that got furious charge were the fucking ork boyz.
>>98418843People have been using them as anvils and as hammer with the taskmaster's scourge and halberds. They have a role they can play.
>>98418843>Honestly the only thing that got furious chargeThat absolutely changed their dynamics was ork boyz/mobs*
>>98418835Minotaur blood herd is afaik the worst of the beastmen lists. Doombulls are fine though
>>98418835It’s not super strong but life isn’t just about competitive viability
>>98418767You are a fucking hero
>>98418835For some reason bloodherd also cant take ghorgon for no fucking good reason. Otherwise they are basically a deathstar variant of beastmen. Worst of the 3 types of lists, but mostly cause wildherd is too good and brayherd has better diversity of model choice. Still great fun tho.
>>98417969>enscrolled weaponsWhen will you brainlets learn the difference between "Ensorcelled" and "Enscrolled"?
>>98418533I say this in the kindest way possible. Seek help, your obsession with the manlet is getting unhealthy and probably needs clinical attention.
Would the dwarf half of skull pass make a good battle march army?
>>98419092Sure. You even get yourself a free baggage cart
>>98419197Indeed, but I'd also hope the smaller map would make miners fun to use.
>>98419212Run them as an Engineers Guild Expeditionary force and have them pop out of holes in the boardAlso convert the Dragon Slayer into a Doomseeker, they're miles better
>>98419231Don't think you can squeeze him in, you're already almost at 600 if you want a rank bonus on the miners by adding two for a full ten man unit.
>>98419092its okay. more importantly its got some good OOP models, so if you can find it for a decent price definitely worth picking up for a dwarfs collector
>>98419231i dont think you even need to convert. no ones gonna hassle you for using the doomseeker profile on your slayer just because his axes arent technically on chains. thats a level of autism you just dont see outside of 40k wysiwyg tournament waacfags trying to cheese a technicality disqualification or something
>>98418274I have read or played hundreds of rulesets. Ignore the guy that said One Page Rules. Look into LaSalle 2, Sharp Practice, Warlords of Erewhon. A concept that most Warhammer players are not familiar with that makes a good turn sequence is "command friction," and OPR doesn't have it. OPR is a simplistic braindead approach of "I move one unit, you move one unit, I move one unit" with zero variation. That approach is hardly better than traditional I-GO-U-GO. An AA sequence that works great in rank and flank games is alternative commander activation. For example, your army might have 3 or 4 officers with a couple units under their command each, and when that commander activates he has a certain number of "commands" to divy out to the units under. Some games randomize the order in which the players commanders are drawn, some have it strick AA, etc. There are literally hundreds of ways you can structure a turn sequence and activation, people that fixate of a binary "AA vs IGOUGO" are frankly not well versed in wargaming rules.
Starting Warriors of Chaos, but I want to go mono-god. Nurgle or Khorne, dudes?
>>98419001I'm honestly starting to wonder if perry is even a real person or a schizophrenic delusion that that anon has invented in his head
>>98419608Ever-raging flame
>>98419636>gays of sigmar loreGo and stay go
>>98419608Khorne, between those two.
>>98419608Khorne and nurgle don’t exist anymore with the next arcane journal.
>>98419644The reddit console war between Warhammer Game A and Warhammer Gams B players is truly hilarious. It's like constipation and diarrhea arguing over who is superior when in reality they're both stinky shit coming out the same asshole
>>98419608Khorne for sure. I think the red and brass will look great on those models.
>>98419722NTA but I never understood it. The games are not exactly high art, they are playing pretend and rolling dice with your bros and strangers. It is bad enough when people turn a hobby into an obsession or lifestyle, but why go full on console warrior with it? Enjoy what you like and that is that. AoS has some cool stuff, WHFB has a lot of cool stuff, 40k has some cool stuff and HH has Mechanicum. Simple 'as.
>>98419722>>98419783It's mostly shitposters, secondaries and retards that actually fell for the shitposting
>>98419805It would be one thing if it were sports teams, but the "MY GAME IS SUPERIOR, PLEBEIANS!" nonsense is silly. We almost all overpay to play GW games in some way, shape or form.
>>98419650>>98419754Yeah, Khorne is just the right choice. I’ve always wanted to get a manticore lord too.
>>98419904I have one, love it. Would 100% recommend owning one.
>>98419917It’s a really nice model. You have any pics?
>>98419939It is boxed up currently, but I'll check if I have any pictures of it in use.
>>98419342Your comment made me laugh.Not because it's not true but because back in the day (and for many years afterward) these dwarfs were maligned to an incredible extent.I understand not liking the sculpts but these were some of the best designed miniatures for warhammer fantasy.They required little/no assembly, they are easy to tell apart and it's easy to see what they represent and, most importantly, they rank up without issues.As far as game pieces go, these are easily among the best GW ever put out. Plus they were fucking everywhere, they were so common in fact that they literally flooded the secondary market depressing prices and allowing many players to expand their force for a reasonable price. It also distorted my perception of what a used miniature should cost and that taught me to only go for absolute bargains. Plus up until the very end of the game, you couldn't see a single dwarf army without that cannon or without that thane.
How do you Anons run your goblins? Spears? Bows? Hand weapons? Shields? Units of 40? Just looking for some suggestions on what to do. Otherwise I'll probably run 4x10 with bows for fun.
>>98419722>>98419783>>98419805>>98419815You won't be welcome no matter how many times you try
>>98419608SlaaneshI think the fancier helmet style and banner already assist there.
>>98419608These things will always look goofy as hell. Reminds me of red corsairs, unredeemable dogshit.
>>98420270Do you have a flu? Perhaps a bad fever?Coz you've sure lost your sense of taste
>>98419783One is significantly browner than the other.
>>98420319Nta, but those new chwarriors are as goysloppa as it gets. Only the reddit-brained can enjoy them.
>>98416614>Takes two hours to get it all out*Click*>Two more hours storing it all back
>nta>is, in fact, taMany such cases
>>98420156Either bows or hand weapons+shield. Shields are stupidly OP on cheap chaff, spears are a waste of points.
when GW finally releases these again they're gonna charge like 100 bucks for 10 aren't they.
>>98420405Just get prints of them. Or buy them off me, I think the army looks lame as fuck but I wouldn’t mind selling my bulk for a 50% uptick of msrp only.
>>98420367They're reworked 5th edition style ones combined with Adrian Smith artopposite of goyslop Your preferences are not based, you're just retarded
>>98420381>He's too cowardly to reply and be proven wrongDone professional faggotry on display here
>>98420439>They're reworked 5th edition styleAutomatically trash. >combined with Adrian Smith artI fucking wish
>>98420432>my bulk for a 50% uptick of msrp only.or I'll just wait for the GW models
>>98420453Hey if not you, someone else.
>>98420449Okay so buy the AoS ones lmao, but that makes u the real goyslopper
>>98419653QRD?
>>98420511>He doesn't own 80+ 3rd-4th metal chaos warriors Tragic, really
>>98416606Very cool looking cna'T wait ot see the resutls! Are you going to make a Full Command for them?
Chaos warriors (the unit) have never had an outright bad-looking kit, but these new ones are way too detailed for a rank-and-flank game >inb4 just drybrush them silver loleIn that case why purchase a super expensive GW kit if you're not gonna make it look niceAlso chaos warriors didn't need their, what, 4th, 5th refresh since tomb kings skeletons were released (faction they put in the starter box btw)
>>98420577Could it remnants of AoS, just with more Warhammer details on it and shipped as a 'new' fantasy model?
>>98420531Do share
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>>98420597>Implying he has any models
